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You're listening to The Bible Guys,
a podcast where a couple of friends talk

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about the Bible in fun in practical
ways. Hey, we're back. Yeah,

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everybody's thrilled, Yes and I am. And let's by the way,

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this is the first ever Bible Guys
episode that you've ever tuned in, in

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which case we're here for the first
time. So yeah, okay, and

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then they're out the Yeah, they
turn it out to Hey, we are

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doing a brand new segment today that
we've never done. I know, I

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am so excited about that. Yeah. New ideas are good, fresh,

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it's good. Yes, it's called
One Must Go, which is interesting.

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Yes, So this is how it
reads. It says, two items with

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a distinct smell will be presented.
Choose one to stay. The other will

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be erased from existence forever. Choose
wisely. Choose wisely? Remember Oh yeah,

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yeah, The Night the Templar Night
in the Indian Jones and The Least

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Crusade Last Crusade. Yeah, how
about you getting the title before me?

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Those are like the only three movies
I watch those. In The Lord of

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the Rings, in The Hobbit,
he Chose, He chose, So one

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must Go. So we have two
smells. So which one would you let

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me make you a smell guy?
Sure? Sure, okay, I love

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smells. Okay, so here we
go. Are you ready? Yep?

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First one? Which has to go? Fresh flowers or freshly baked cookies?

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That is an awful, awful,
awful choice. Terrible choice, yes,

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because they're both wonderful. Yes.
So so I'm trying to really think hard

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about this. I'm taking this game
seriously. You know, when you when

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you when you're walking around and you
smell like lilies in the breeze, you

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smell fresh jasmine in the air,
It's like, what do you It's like,

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what are you talking about? Getting
rid of all that? Versus cookies

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You only sort of smell when you
drive by bakery, which smell wonderful,

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But flowers would It would impact the
whole world. So I'm gonna say get

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rid of cookies, as much as
that pains me to say, Well,

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I think so you're only getting rid
of the smell, You're not getting rid

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of the flavor. So so yeah, I totally I don't eat a lot

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of flowers. So you're saying if
you get rid of the smell of flowers,

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they be useless. It'd be forever. Yeah, yeah, so my

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very favorite smell of a flower.
Now, I hate the scent, like

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if somebody just sprays a scent in
the room. Manufacture, that's right.

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But I love the smell of fresh
lilacs. Love them, and we used

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to have a bunch on our property. There was a big li like bush

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behind my grandmother's house on our property. So I have a massive lilac bush

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in my backyard. I love it
when the breeze blows just right and you

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can smell it. Oh, yard, it's great. We have two lilac

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bushes in our So. Yeah,
I would choose get rid of the freshly

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baked cookie smell. Yeah me too, Me tooe all right. Number two,

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citrus or chocolate. The smell of
citrus or the smell of chocolate one

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has to leave the earth forever.
I would get rid of the smell of

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chocolate. Wow, you're such a
chocolate lover, I know, but I

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love the taste. Again, she's
not getting rid of taste, although I

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know smell and taste are attached.
But she didn't say, but you can

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taste citrus as well. I know, But I love the smell of citrus.

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Yeah, yeah, so I'm with
you on that, and never like

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ooh good, a chocolate smelling soap. Right, that's correct, that's correct.

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But I like lemony flesh, lemony
fresh. Yeah, citrus is too

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universal. Yeah, okay, So
here's the other side, too detrimental to

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the world. What is this one? Did you see number three? Oh?

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This is a These are too bad
smells. Get rid of one.

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Yeah. So body odor or bad
breath? What do you think? I

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immediately know the answer to this going
to be bad breath for no body odor

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really, because bad breath is controllable. You can you can keep your distance.

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Yeah, right, body odor.
If somebody has body odor, it's

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the circumference around that person, is
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you're talking about who sometimes you know, yes, you know. Sometimes I

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was on a plane four seats away
right with some people who. But you

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and I have been in many cultures
where bathing is not a part of the

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culture. Yes, and it's quite
quite shocking how musky those planes are shocking.

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Yeah. Yeah, So I would
choose bad breath as well. I

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mean I would choose bodyodor. Eliminate
body od. Yeah yeah. So so

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hey, I'll tell this three for
three. Yeah, we are, I'll

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tell us in three seconds. There
was a guy. There was a guy.

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He was four seats down for me, and it was so bad I

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couldn't stand there. I told the
flight attendant and she's like, come on,

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And then she came over and she
was even further removed from me because

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she's now in the aisle, right, so she's four seats away and an

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isle away. And she went to
go lean over to tell me that the

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plane was full, that she couldn't
move me. And she leaned over to

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talk to me and she goes,
sir, I like, and she started

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gagging, and she goes and then
she changed her sentence and she goes,

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I will find you a seat immediately. It's hilarious. And she did.

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Yeah, And that poor guy probably
had no sense and no sense of it.

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No, probably not, probably not
his world. They don't do they

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don't bathe or whatever. So yeah, okay, would you get rid of

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the scent of freshly cut grass or
of pinewood? Hmm, that is hard.

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I think I would get rid of
the smell of freshly cut grass me

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too. We are in alignment on
every one of these. Yeah, I

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love the smell of wood. Yeah, me too too, And it's it's

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it's it's again. I'm thinking of
the whole world here, so freshly cut

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grass, like, what's what's the
real big loss there? Right? Although

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freshly cut grass is pretty amazing,
of course it is. Okay, Now,

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I thought, because you're such an
outdoor like yard guy, oh you

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would love Yeah, yeah, I
like, I like, I like cutting

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grass, I don't necessarily love the
freshly cut grass smell. And then lastly,

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popcorn or peppermint. That's a tough
one because popcorn is pretty wonderful.

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However, I would get rid of
peppermint. You would get rid of peppermint.

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Yeah, And the reason why is
because popcorn is so wonderful, Like

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when you pop popcorn, it fills
everything and it's wonderful. Peppermints is like

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usually it's like the sprays. Right, But even when I'm eating peppermint,

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and I just I don't know,
man, I mean, I guess,

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I guess it would hurt the the
breath mints. Well, you and I

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are completely in line. Wow,
Yeah, because I would have chosen popcorn.

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So we've chosen all five of these. We chose the same thing.

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Wow. I think she was hoping
for disagreement. Maybe so, but again

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we're very like, yes, I
agree, preferences. Okay, Well that

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I'm sure was riveting the best seven
minutes of people's lives. There, six

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minutes and fifty second yeah, fifty
four fifty five heading into it, all

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right, and seven from a twenty
four minute podcast. Not too bad.

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So let's jump right into Mark chapter
thirteen because we read half of Matthew twenty

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four last time. So how this
is going to go is we're going to

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read the first part of Mark thirteen. Then on the next podcast we're going

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to go back and read the rest
of Matthew twenty four, and then we'll

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come back and read the rest of
you. No, we'll read Luke.

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The next podcast will be the first
half of Luke. Oh yeah, there's

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three of them, three for them. Then we'll go back yep, yep,

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yep. Okay, okay, So
Mark chapter thirteen, and we're going

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to read one through twenty three.
It says as Jesus was leaving the temple

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that day, one of his disciples
said, teacher, look at these magnificent

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buildings, look at the impressive stone
in the walls. And Jesus re plaied,

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Yes, look at these great buildings, but they will be completely demolished.

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Not one stone will be left on
top of another. Later, Jesus

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sat on the Mount of the Olives, across the valley from the temple.

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Peter, James, and John and
Andrew came to him privately and asked him,

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tell us when will all this happen? What sign will show us that

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these things are about to be fulfilled. Jesus replied, don't let anyone mislead

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you, for many will come in
my name claiming I am no messiah.

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They will deceive many, and you
will hear of wars and threats of wars.

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But don't panic. Yes, these
things must take place, but the

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end won't follow immediately. Nation will
go to war against nation, and kingdom

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against kingdom. There will be earthquakes
in many parts of the world, as

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well as famines. But this is
only the first of the birth pains,

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with more to come. When these
things begin to happen, watch out.

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You'll be handed over to the local
councils and beaten in the synagogues. You

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will stand trial before governors and kings
because you are my followers. But this

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will be your opportunity to tell them
about me. For the good news must

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first be preached to all nations.
But when you are arrested and stand trial,

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don't worry, and don't worry in
advance about what to say. Just

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say what God tells you at the
time, for it is not you who

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will be speaking, but the Holy
Spirit. Brother will betray his brother to

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death, a father will betray his
own child, and children rebel against their

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parents and cause them to be killed. And everyone will hate you because you

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are my followers. But the one
who endures to the end will be saved.

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The day is coming when you will
see the sacrilegious object that causes desecrations

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standing where he should not be.
Reader, pay attention. Then those in

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Judea must flee into the hills.
A person out on the deck of a

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roof must not go down into the
house to pack. A person out on

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the field must not return even to
get a coat. How terrible it be

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for pregnant women and for nursing mothers
in those days. And pray that your

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flight will not be in winter,
for there will be greater anguish than those

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days than at any time since God
created the world. He'll never be so

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great again. In fact, unless
the Lord shortens that time of calamity,

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not a single person will survive.
But for the sake of his chosen ones,

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he has shortened those days. Then
if anyone tells you, look,

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here's the Messiah or there he is, don't believe it, for false messiahs

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and false prophets will rise up and
perform signs and wonders so as to deceive,

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if possible, even God's chosen ones. Watch out, I've warned you

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about this ahead of time at that
time, what versus Marie through Oh yeah,

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I am there, so I can't. I can't let you know the

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rest of it yet, don't click, don't. Yes, we'll come back

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at that few days. So this
is pretty close to yesterday's podcast. There

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are a few details that are different. Yeah, and can I just camp

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on one of the details quickly?
Go ahead? Uh. So, this

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particular version in Mark is different than
Matthew twenty four because it actually tells us

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who did the questioning to Jesus when
he predicted the temple being destroyed. Oh

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yeah, It actually says later Jesus
said, at the amount of all of

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us across from the valley of the
Temple, and it says Peter James,

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John and Andrew came to him privately
and asked, whereas the Matthew twenty four

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version yesterday just said they just asked
him, right, So, so you

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remember what I'm Are you predicting what
I'm going to say? I'm guessing.

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Yeah. So I wrote a message, and I remember talking about it with

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you. I think you even delivered
one of the messages where I did a

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study in college, because when I
was in college, somebody had made a

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comment in the New Testament history class
and they had said, there is evidence

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that Jesus played favorites, and they
said it was it was always Peter,

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James and John. And the way
they described it was they said, well,

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Jesus had the twelve, and then
Jesus had the three, and then

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he had the one, you know, and Peter was who they claimed to

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be the one, even though that
John thought it was him right right,

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I'm jesus favorite, the disciple of
Jesus loved, the one whom Jesus loved.

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John always referred to himself as that. But they were saying Jesus had

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the one, and of course they
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You know, David had his thirty
mighty men, and then he had

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his his three you know, and
and all these kind of things. And

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they were talking about groups and comrades
and people that sharpened iron and all that

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stuff, which, by the way, is all true, completely true,

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right, so there's nothing wrong with
that. But I really disliked the idea

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that Jesus played favorites. And it's
like and so actually they even in my

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past, even in my pastoral training, uh, they would say, uh,

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you know, they'd say, like
them all, but love a few,

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And I would say, what does
that even mean. They're like,

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well, you know, just disciple
the willing, you know, like like

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you know, those those people in
your ministry who really want to know more.

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And that got me thinking too,
because I thought to myself, oh,

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like them all, love a few
disciple, the ones who want to

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know more. And then I started
noticing in the scriptures that it was it

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always seemed to be Peter James and
John who did the asking. Now in

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this case there's Andrew, right,
and every once in a while there was

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there was somebody else, but for
the most part, it was always Peter

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James and John pulling Jesus aside.
And so here's my observation. My observation

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is, and this is applicable to
everybody listening, because Jesus, I believe,

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responded to Peter, James and John
because they had a willing heart.

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In other words, Jesus didn't pick
them as his favorites. Jesus let them

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in on more of himself in response
to their inquisitive and passionate heart. So

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it's evidenced in scripture they're the ones
who pulled him aside. Early on,

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by the way, early on,
all the way, at the beginning of

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the Gospels, Jesus would teach the
whole crowd, and then Peter comes along

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and says, hey, teach me
more about forgiveness, right, Peter,

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James and John says, teach us
more about the parable of the seed and

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the sowers. And then you'll notice
later on in scriptures, you know,

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he says, hey, come a
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know, everybody stay back, except
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hed say, hey, I'm gonna
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and the transfiguration was about to happen. He says, everybody stay back,

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except for Peter James and John.
Hey, the little girl isn't dead,

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she's just sleeping. Everybody out who
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and John. So I believe that
it's Jesus who brings them in to experience

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more of himself because they're the ones
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application I believe isn't that Jesus plays
favorites. I believe it's Jesus responds to

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willing hearts. So if you want
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want to have experienced God at the
next level, then pursue him. Be

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inquisitive. Be the kind of person
who listens to the podcast it isn't just

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content with that alone, but then
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You know more yourself. You don't
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the same thing that the crowd listens
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that wants to know more than the
crowd, the kind that goes to God

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and says, Okay, God,
there's my word for you today. But

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let's press into that. So if
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today, it's church, let's press
into that together. What do you really

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want me to do in my life
because of this truth? Right? And

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I believe that's that's why that's why
you have Peter, James and John that's

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why you have the quote unquote favorites. It wasn't Jesus choosing them, it

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was it was them choosing Jesus and
Jesus responding. So yeah, so there

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there's a there's value in that,
right that move at the movers, invest

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in the people that have the not
not the most questions, but the you

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know, the greatest potential, right
and that that that's a hard thing because

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we want everybody to have access.
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would perish, but that all would
come to pends. He came to seeking

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to save all the laws God's will
love the whole world, right, Right,

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So there's all those things, but
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business or uh in your ministry or
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that are leaning in more and that
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also greater abilities. And so you
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the disciples that were martyred. Right. So, well, there's that John

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was the last one to die.
He was he maybe lived to be close

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to one hundred or over. Peter
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early Church. And so you've got
these guys that Jesus is pouring into because

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of the significant impact you know that
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Jesus could also see their future impact. Yeah, for sure, not to

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minimize the impact of Bartholomew. It's
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Yeah, So the thing that jumps
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passage would be he says in verse
nine, when these things begin to happen,

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watch out. You'll be handed over
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We already read that part. You'll
stand trial before governors and kings because

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you're my followers. But then he
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to tell them about me, for
the good news must be preached to all

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nations. And then he says,
but when you're arrested and stand trial,

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don't worry in advance about what to
say. Just say what God tells you

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at that time, for it is
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the Holy Spirit. Sometimes were horrified
by persecution and by struggle. But that's

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God's only way to get the gospel
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rulers, and you know, I've
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particularly when there was some horrible atrocities
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the extreme radical Muslim groups that were
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And then instead what they started to
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and feet, but leaving them alive. Because a man who can't work is

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a drain on that village as opposed
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Right, It's even harder for all
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be able to work. And so
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he was a bishop in that area, said, you know, don't pray

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that the persecution stops. Pray that
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while they're persecuting, and that we
will have the words, that God will

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give us the right words to be
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how else will they ever hear right, And I remember thinking, oh,

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my goodness, and that's what he's
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Did you ever when you were a
kid, or even maybe now,

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do you ever think what would happen
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Hey, renounce Christ kind of thing? Yeah? Thank through that right?

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Well, yeah, yes, I've
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you know, when we were both
student pastors, you know, the Columbine

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was short of the first big one, right, and and goodness gracious,

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I've talked about it in sermons with
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like what would it truly be like? You know, And of course over

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the years it's happened so many times
now with people in faith, and you

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know, face a part of it
sometimes and and yeah, that's that's a

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scary deal. I was just reading
about a So there were the disciples and

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then you know, Jesus goes back
to heaven. It is the disciples,

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most of them lived into fairly older
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and then the disciples disciples had disciples. That's how the gospel continued to spread.

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holding the manuscripts from Paul's letters for
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Roman Empire, near what would be
Tunis today. And the Roman Empire had

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decided again to go after the Christians. And he had them in a box,

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and the word came that he was
going to be arrested, him and

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several the other key leaders, seven
of the key leaders. So he's debating,

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what do I do. Do I
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you know not he was a Roman
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each other of you know, Paul's
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going to run my race. I'm
going to finish this thing. Whether if

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I live is Christ, to die
is gain. And they were encouraging each

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other and reminding each other that we're
not the only ones that have ever been

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persecuted. This is how the gospel
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of the martyrs is the seat of
the church is true right, all these

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things, And then they were brought
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and he demanded that they renounce their
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if you'll renounce your faith, if
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your God. And they said,
we have no God but Jesus, and

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he had them executed. And I
was reading that last night. I was

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sitting in my chair last night and
just really moved by this has been the

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church. Then it pivoted. He
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leaders dear in Mao's Revolution. And
when they shifted over to the Communists,

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they killed over a million people,
most of them Christians. They kicked down

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the doors, say, arrested people. And I'm just thinking about that.

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All throughout history, whether you're talking
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are faced with that. But he
says, don't worry about it. Right,

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He says, don't worry in advance. You don't have to be freaking

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out about it today because God will
give you the right words at the right

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time. And just to understand that
it's not your words, it's God's words.

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It's not your life, it's God's
life. It's not you making an

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impact, it's God using you to
make an impact. And if you can

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just I am content with the idea
of being God's vessel. I'm content with

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being a person that God uses for
his message, whether it's whether I live

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which is Christ, or to die
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so this is kind of that past. Don't worry about it. Just know

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he because He doesn't give these things
to be afraid of. Don't worry about

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it. God will do the right
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You know when you had cancer and
it was scary for you and you had

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no outcome, Yeah, your response
was You're like, hey, you know,

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you can't threaten a Christian with heaven, right, That's right, And

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you were just super you know,
a matter of fact about it. And

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even that, I remember thinking,
Okay, I'd like to think that i'd

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be that way. I hope i'm
that way, you know. Would I

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have more anxiety and fear that just
get a hold of me, you know,

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more sadness? I don't know.
But but yeah, even that,

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So all of that to say,
I believe you're the kind of guy I

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could totally see you somewhere in the
jungle, somewhere for somebody's that has a

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spear to your head or a gun
to your head and they're like, renounce

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the Lord or whatever, and you're
like, well, I guess today's my

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day. You know, you get
to go see Jesus before I go.

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Let me tell you, bud,
Jesus, Well that Paul did ye.

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So Paul standing before kings and the
emperor and he declares the Gospel to them,

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and how else were they ever going
to hear unless somebody stood in front

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of him? Right right? So
yeah, well that's it. Well,

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hey, that's a good place to
end, and we will pick up on

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this topic and also the next time
on the Bibble guys,