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We all got a different path that
we're on and it's all custom man.

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So we got to never forget that it is
custom and that you have to feel custom.

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You do have to feel unique.

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You have to feel unique
in what you're doing.

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You have to, if you don't
good luck goes to go struggle.

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I'm not investing.

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You have to feel that.

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I don't care how broke you are.

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I don't care what your limited capital is.

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You have to feel unique.

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You have to feel special because a
lot of things that kind of feeling

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unique, like there's no going around it.

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Welcome to Lucas Skrobot
show I'm Lucas Skrobot.

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And this is where we uncover purpose,
pursue truth and own the future episode

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274, the afterglow it is recording.

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March 16th, 2022, right after we
finished our interview with  Mike

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Nova, musician and entrepreneur.

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If you didn't listen to the ACE side,
first part of the interview with Mateo,

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with Mike, go back and listen to that.

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After we finished the interview,
I paused the cameras for a

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moment, and then it really.

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Yeah, we're going to go into another
hour of conversation, unpacking,

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not just, you know, stuff that's
happening, geopolitically or, or our

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positioning of how we should think about
Ukraine, but we really got into some

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really deep heart stuff, life stuff.

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How to own your future.

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How do you own my future?

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I, I.

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With, uh, impacted on
many different levels.

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Thinking about lots of different
things in my life, this, this intro

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clip you have to feel accustomed.

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You have to feel special.

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You have to know that you were created
with purpose and destiny to fulfill that.

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That's still sticking with
me even after this interview.

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Enjoy the afterglow with me.

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Hell and I, the die down when the
violence dive down, you know, but the

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people that are preaching the same
message 10 years from now, but it may

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be in a different way, different style,
you know, different clothes, whatever.

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Uh, those are the people that they are.

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They're like us, bro.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Um, yeah, it's going to die down.

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Like we were talking about on, on the,
on, on live, you know, like it's going to

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die down and we're going to keep going.

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We just won't, we don't forget traumas.

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And if we do good, but the ones that
we don't forget, if they're inspiring

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us to create more beautiful things,
People, you know, do amazing, beautiful

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things in life, then there's no better
life than that, you know, in a sense.

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And we there's so many aspects to it.

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That's why Harding the trip, finding the
trail is difficult every single time.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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But it gets easier, you
know, it gets easier and.

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And we become better.

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It's like any, any athlete or
artists, they get better because if

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it was, is this what we love to do?

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We need to do well, then
we should keep doing it.

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Okay, well, we're a little
soiled, but who cares?

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Like we're gonna wash our stuff.

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It's all good.

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We keep going.

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Cause we love it.

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You know, we love what we do.

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We have, and we made
those choices, you know?

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And it, Hey, you know what
Winston Churchill said too, bro?

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What'd he say?

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He said somebody, he
changed his mind as the.

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Or the minister prime
minister changes his mind.

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Prime minister.

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Yeah.

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Changes his mind, you know, and in
government, at the highest level of

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anyone in the country changes his mind
of what people were thinking he was

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going to do, and he changes his mind
and he says, you changed your mind.

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How good of a person would I
be if I never changed my mind?

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Oh, that's such a big problem though.

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These days, people get entrenched
in one way, one way of thinking

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and they refuse to change their
mind, even in the face of evidence.

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Looking at Putin right now
or whatever, or anybody else?

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I don't care.

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Look, bro, are you making people feel
amazing, you know, across the world?

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Cause that's the new frontier.

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That's the new territory is we're
talking from country to country now it's

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not just physical anymore, you know?

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I mean, whatever, you know, so.

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How's your family.

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How's your wife and kids, bro.

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Everyone's good.

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Healthy, not sick.

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Yeah.

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We kind of have this little head
cold thing rolling around, but

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other than that, we're doing okay.

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Yeah.

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They tell you that, uh, we had a
miscarriage a couple of weeks ago.

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No.

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Yeah.

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I'm so sorry.

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I were like 14, 14 and a half weeks.

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Yeah, that was, that was rough.

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So we're still kind of
recovering from that.

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Um, wow.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It was rough.

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It's been a hellish.

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It's been a hellish
palish a couple months.

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So hellish kids having visions.

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Death, like the spirit of death coming
into the room, like having visions of

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like this hooded person, like with like
smoke coming out of their hood, it's

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like real, like legit demonic activity
sort of deal with Git to Monica.

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So we're just, you know, in
the battle, just in the battle.

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Can I tell you something?

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I wrote down yesterday,
I wrote down on like a.

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I couldn't, I didn't, I didn't feel
comfortable saying it on a podcast,

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but, um, I would have in, you know,
that's just not where the questions

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were, but, or what, or whatever.

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I'm not saying that either, but,
um, sometimes like we have so many

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rules in every, every structure of
any community, whatever the religion,

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whatever the government, whatever
the country, we have so many rules.

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Right.

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Um, That's cliche.

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Obviously it's even say the
word rules, but I was in, in

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Ukraine and I walk outside.

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I walk outside.

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It's like an untypical situation for me.

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I walk outside, I'll probably
post this some time online.

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Uh, I walk outside of we're at a show,
researching an artist, but like, you

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know, having some fun time dancing.

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There's the clubs, the music is so good.

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I stayed there till like 5:00 AM.

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We're walking out with a couple
of my buddies that are there

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and two guys are fighting over.

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Two dudes are fighting outside.

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There are about to start
up by yelling hard.

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Like this is obvious somebody
is going to get into a fight.

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Right.

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And I'm like, I'm like best shape
of my life before the surgeries.

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Like whatever, like I'm swole.

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Like I got chains on like diamonds,
like, whatever you doing it, you know?

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Yeah.

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I mean, feel free to share,
but you might not want to this

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story about, well, let's see.

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And, um, And I yell at him.

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I say, stop the fight right
now, right now, you know, like,

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and I said it in a way that was
like, I was taking an authority.

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Right.

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And they didn't like that.

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They didn't not like one
of them didn't like that.

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They kind of split up.

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I start walking away.

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And the dude that was probably
the most token about what I said.

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And I didn't really like, it was just my
spirit at the time, you know, to do that.

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Right.

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It's such a weird story.

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Uh, and maybe the way I said it, he didn't
like it, but that was my, that was my

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tech, you know, but I also was feeling
in my ego a little bit, you know, like I

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knew I had to power to me, like physically
and all that, you know, after a show

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like, blah, blah, blah, this guy starts
coming at me and my buddies shrugging

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him off, you know, a couple more minutes.

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Sorry, bro.

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It's spiritual at the end, obviously.

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Right?

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Uh, it's guys shrug them off.

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And next thing I know this dude
is such a good kickboxer and the

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cleanest kick I've ever seen it.

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I've done MMA before in my life.

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So that's where, like where
I'm comfortable, maybe a

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little more comfortable.

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Like I have like a, you know, a record,
uh, in stage fighting, you know,

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like a professional record and stuff
and uh, yeah, I mean, it's amateur,

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but it's professional regardless.

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And, uh, it's official maybe
is what I should be saying.

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Uh, and, uh, uh, I know these
kicks, I know what a good one

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looks like, what a bad one looks
like, and it just lands, right?

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Like hard, you know, the point like,
like teeth moved around to hurt for

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two weeks after, you know, or, yeah.

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And so I'm like, how am I
in this situation right now?

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You know, I had a lot of time
to think about it later, but.

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You know, something happens.

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He kicks him, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah.

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And, uh, and we go to the
ground, we're wrestling and

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that's why I'm the best at all.

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My best training is on the
ground and I immediately.

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I have the hang man, like immediately,
I have some so locked in with the head

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enough to where I'm actually able to get
both of us up off the ground and, and put

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all of my weight and use his weight to
get close to snap, like to suffocating

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him or snapping his net, which, you
know, as other deaths are paralyzed

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and three cameras out, these videos.

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You know, there's somewhere out there.

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My, my, my friends were
there to like stop it.

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Cause they knew it was crazy, but I just
had to do what I had to do, you know?

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And, um, and I feel, I feel the power of
myself and I have the authority to kill

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someone right now and do it legally.

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Uh, because it's just
too easy at this point.

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I'm way too trained for this.

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I know where I'm at.

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I know what's going on then
these other, these are attacking

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15 people around three phones.

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My glasses are off my shoes off.

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Oh, my buttons off the shirt tore off.

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I haven't even put them back on.

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I haven't sewed them back on that shirt.

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Uh, don't tell anybody that I kept
it as a souvenir, you know, and.

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And his brothers begging, cause his
is also is he's in the MMA world.

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What could happen right now.

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And he started begging to let him go
begging, you know, and I'm thinking,

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I'm thinking and still, this is not
like a lot of this was instinct.

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Like it wasn't like, like I'm not
it's happening quickly, you know?

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Yeah.

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Happening quickly.

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But the most important
things I'm feeling and my.

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This is not my mind making a decision
is my body does this it's either trend

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or if the way that I'm conditioned
from maybe childhood, the way they

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were raised or something, I don't know.

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But I feel it I'm feeling like I'm
like, dude, I can kill the student.

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Get away.

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You know, and like, that would be fun.

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That'd be Putin stop.

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That'd be Vladimir style.

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Totally.

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And yeah, but it doesn't
totally buy that's so loud.

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Hashtags, hashtag and
long story short, bro.

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I come home and I'm crying in
the car during that moment.

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Oh, what happens?

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Oh, there cameras.

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Cameras everywhere.

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And I have, you know, my it's
more of like my it's not even my

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brain because my brain would have
probably wanted to snap his neck.

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It would've been cool.

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Would've been fun, you know, maybe
deal with a court case and you

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get away and blah, blah, blah, and
everything it's legal, blah, blah, blah.

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Cause he struck us, you know, self-defense
and it's all on video and there was,

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those guys have somewhere I'm sure.

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Cause they're not gonna
delete something like that.

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But, um, You know, I'm
there and I feel him.

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So live the enemy.

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So lit.

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I'm like, there's no way he's going
to recover from this, like in his,

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you know, or I'm not even thinking
this, I'm just thinking, like, if

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I let him go, nothing's going to
happen because he has no strength.

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You know, and, uh, so I'll let them
go, you know, I just let them off.

241
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And he immediately it's like that
scripture resist the devil and he will

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flee from you that do like, was gone.

243
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And he was like, so cocky.

244
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So big, you know, kicking
literally the most beautiful kick

245
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I've ever seen in my life, live
training MMA to my face, you know?

246
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And yeah, dude, I get
home and I'm crying, bro.

247
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It's hard, but I'm just like, I shit,
like I was literally crying because I'm

248
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like, this is what we're going through.

249
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This is what humanity goes through
all in some of these moments.

250
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Now it's an award it's that, you know,
those guys are doing their thing and it's

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a psychological powers and principalities
of darkness for some of these guys,

252
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some of these guys just physical that
dye and all that stuff, you know, but

253
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deep down, inside, deep down inside.

254
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We're not, we're not happy
at killing on the offense.

255
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We're okay.

256
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Killing on the defense.

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We're okay.

258
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Even then some of us don't do it.

259
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Right.

260
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Because we just like, whatever, like
why, like, I don't need this, you know,

261
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I already won, you know what I mean?

262
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Or whatever.

263
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Right.

264
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But, uh, when you're on the offense
and you're out to kill on the offense,

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um, and it's not, you're not, if you
are ever to kill somebody and it's not.

266
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Something that's natural to you.

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It's up in your head.

268
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Lennon's last word that people heard were
him on his knees, begging forgiveness

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from the freaking table and chair in his
office based on how he lived his life.

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Lennon's last word, Steve jobs.

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Well, yeah, a whole people said
a lot of people loved them.

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Still had a wife.

273
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And his last words are what, oh, wow.

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How beautiful is this?

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As humanity, we're moving
in the right direction.

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And so we have, there's a couple of
things that we need to do as pod-casters,

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as musicians, as entrepreneurs, as
fathers, more fathers, less teachers, a

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lot of me is trying to teach right now.

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God is trying to teach, you know, he's
not being, he's not being a father.

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A father will protect a father, Mike.

281
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Fathers are killing in Ukraine right
now because their sons were killed

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and they're doing it out of instinct.

283
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They're doing it because
they're like, I can't let, how

284
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can I not defend another son?

285
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And this is the old,
there are bullets flying.

286
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There are rockets fine.

287
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They don't care who it is.

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They just don't want their son to die,
you know, but deep down inside, we're

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wired to protect and we might be to
the point of killing and whatever.

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But we're not, we're very poorly wired
to do the kind of things that, that

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flat, you know, you know, cause we really
do love our enemies deep down inside.

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Even if we don't think that we do
or even feel it deep down inside, we

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very much so do because we're from one
earth we're from, we share way too.

294
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We too many things in
common together that are.

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It's the craziest brain in all of all
of living beings is the ones that, the

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one that's in us, the craziest one.

297
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And it's really dangerous.

298
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As you can tell, as we could tell
back in 1691, when this democracy was

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formed here on this land, you know,
it's a very dangerous one, civil wars.

300
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It's a civil war right now.

301
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So to speak over there, I mean, it's
territorial obviously, but it's also

302
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considered a civil war and then probably
a civil war going to happen in Russia.

303
00:16:28,185 --> 00:16:28,324
And.

304
00:16:29,715 --> 00:16:33,074
Like an official meaning of
the word it's probably probably

305
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going to happen in Russia, net.

306
00:16:34,995 --> 00:16:35,235
Yeah.

307
00:16:35,235 --> 00:16:37,905
These people, these people are
terrified of their own president.

308
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They hate what he's doing.

309
00:16:39,525 --> 00:16:42,375
They can't, there are a lot of them are
way too scared to speak out against it.

310
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And the people that are, are becoming
very famous right now, especially if

311
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they're a media, if they're paying the
consequence for there for speaking out, I

312
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just saw someone was found in a suitcase.

313
00:16:54,495 --> 00:16:55,275
You're speaking out.

314
00:16:58,680 --> 00:16:58,980
Yep.

315
00:16:59,580 --> 00:16:59,880
Yeah.

316
00:16:59,910 --> 00:17:02,970
She was a model that he probably
slept with them or something.

317
00:17:02,970 --> 00:17:05,040
I don't know, you know,
but she was a model.

318
00:17:05,099 --> 00:17:06,270
She was in a suitcase later.

319
00:17:07,890 --> 00:17:13,470
Like, like just total barbaric stuff
that like, what, like I thought

320
00:17:13,470 --> 00:17:16,260
we were all past it, like, didn't,
we'd go through two world wars.

321
00:17:17,220 --> 00:17:17,819
Like isn't this?

322
00:17:17,819 --> 00:17:18,060
What?

323
00:17:18,150 --> 00:17:23,130
Like, at least if you can't feel at least
think about the bloodshed and act on the.

324
00:17:24,345 --> 00:17:28,995
You can't feel the pain or the suffering
at least do it like logically, I

325
00:17:28,995 --> 00:17:32,205
guess that's where I think I would
probably disagree with you in that.

326
00:17:32,685 --> 00:17:36,405
I don't actually think that people,
you know, at the base core of

327
00:17:36,405 --> 00:17:39,015
their humanity love their enemy.

328
00:17:39,015 --> 00:17:41,385
You know, does the FC
writes a lot about this?

329
00:17:41,385 --> 00:17:45,375
How, you know, people think that,
oh, humanity's basically good,

330
00:17:46,065 --> 00:17:52,125
but you know, when it comes to
loving the face of a broken.

331
00:17:53,159 --> 00:17:59,550
Person in front of you and actual action,
not just in theory of loving mankind.

332
00:17:59,550 --> 00:18:03,810
And mankind's basically good, but like
the neighbor in front of you that like

333
00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:08,730
gets under your skin, the enemy in
front of you, that you've been fighting

334
00:18:08,730 --> 00:18:14,159
with eye on the whole of humanity.

335
00:18:14,250 --> 00:18:19,770
I think people actually don't like, and
actually do hate, you know, it says.

336
00:18:20,910 --> 00:18:27,120
Victor Frankel wrote and said
that the line, the fault line of

337
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evil runs through every heart.

338
00:18:31,230 --> 00:18:34,800
Uh there's uh, the book ordinary
men, which is talking about the,

339
00:18:36,060 --> 00:18:42,780
the, the, kind of the reserve German
police that went into Germany.

340
00:18:42,780 --> 00:18:47,340
These just ordinary guys, just like you
and me, give it a way out saying, Hey,

341
00:18:47,610 --> 00:18:49,140
we're about to do some horrible things.

342
00:18:50,530 --> 00:18:53,410
But if you want, you can go home.

343
00:18:55,360 --> 00:19:02,590
But the majority of the men chose to stay
and liquidate the Jews from the ghetto

344
00:19:02,590 --> 00:19:05,770
women, children, elderly, pregnant women.

345
00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,940
That is so, so dark and graphic.

346
00:19:11,115 --> 00:19:15,135
As they spent the day just firing
thousands of rounds into the back of

347
00:19:15,135 --> 00:19:18,855
people's heads and they'd have to get
slammed drunk just to continue doing it.

348
00:19:19,575 --> 00:19:24,405
So I think, I think at the core of our
humanity, there is something very dark and

349
00:19:24,405 --> 00:19:32,504
evil and it takes, it takes something to,
you know, from our religious background.

350
00:19:33,555 --> 00:19:37,754
It takes Jesus Christ to touch
our hearts, transform us.

351
00:19:37,754 --> 00:19:41,175
It puts something supernatural
in us so that we don't snap the

352
00:19:41,175 --> 00:19:46,215
neck of our enemy so that we have
mercy in that moment rather than

353
00:19:47,415 --> 00:19:49,754
fulfilling the desires of our flesh.

354
00:19:52,875 --> 00:19:55,665
And I think, I think, I mean, there's
a right picture of what you said,

355
00:19:55,665 --> 00:20:00,764
that there is something righteous
in just in the heart of a false.

356
00:20:02,490 --> 00:20:04,830
To defend our home and defend our land.

357
00:20:04,830 --> 00:20:05,610
And that's right.

358
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:06,480
That's good.

359
00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:07,440
That's just

360
00:20:10,860 --> 00:20:15,660
versus when you're
assaulting someone else.

361
00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,490
Yeah, brother, it's a great point.

362
00:20:20,490 --> 00:20:21,630
And it's so true.

363
00:20:22,020 --> 00:20:30,290
Um, and I know that, um, a lot of my life.

364
00:20:31,050 --> 00:20:32,790
Me personally, I can relate to that.

365
00:20:33,420 --> 00:20:40,740
The, you know, some of, you know, I
mean, you can't measure, you shouldn't

366
00:20:40,740 --> 00:20:44,490
measure evil, evil, evil, just like
you shouldn't measure sins, you know?

367
00:20:45,420 --> 00:20:50,520
Um, but it's very hard to love your
neighbor when you yourself are broken.

368
00:20:52,900 --> 00:20:53,920
And not a lot of us are.

369
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,600
Cause a lot of people are
actually really happy.

370
00:20:56,650 --> 00:20:58,780
They are a lot, a lot of these people are.

371
00:20:59,879 --> 00:21:00,810
I mean, yeah, sure.

372
00:21:00,810 --> 00:21:04,169
They would want a little more,
like they wouldn't mind a Louis

373
00:21:04,169 --> 00:21:06,000
Vuitton bag or whatever, whatever.

374
00:21:06,149 --> 00:21:08,250
I mean, you can be happy
and broken at the same.

375
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,879
I mean, just because you're happy,
doesn't mean you're not broken.

376
00:21:12,209 --> 00:21:16,739
Doesn't mean that you don't have, you
know, deep pains and sorrows in your life.

377
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,129
Spoken enough to not be
able to love your name.

378
00:21:28,540 --> 00:21:29,590
That's broken enough from me.

379
00:21:33,710 --> 00:21:34,010
Yeah.

380
00:21:34,020 --> 00:21:35,310
Well, I mean, we're happy, I guess.

381
00:21:35,340 --> 00:21:36,810
And, and, you know, yeah.

382
00:21:36,990 --> 00:21:37,560
We're happy.

383
00:21:37,740 --> 00:21:38,399
You're a hundred percent.

384
00:21:38,399 --> 00:21:38,639
Right.

385
00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:43,919
But when I'm broken up or when I was, or
if I ever will be, which I don't plan on,

386
00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:52,274
if I'm ever that way, then I hope that,
uh, I go and put myself in an environment

387
00:21:52,605 --> 00:21:55,274
where I know I have spiritual food.

388
00:21:55,574 --> 00:22:00,435
I have real food physically, and I have
spiritual food being like communion as

389
00:22:00,435 --> 00:22:02,475
well, like with people that are good.

390
00:22:03,135 --> 00:22:08,115
And that'll, that'll, that'll pull
that based on God's laws is catapulting

391
00:22:08,115 --> 00:22:13,095
me right back because that decision
I'm going to be broken again.

392
00:22:13,185 --> 00:22:15,615
I'm going to make myself,
if I'm going to go there.

393
00:22:16,785 --> 00:22:17,415
'cause I'm too.

394
00:22:17,685 --> 00:22:18,375
I'm too.

395
00:22:18,405 --> 00:22:24,855
I'm too experienced in this brokenness
love thing to know that that ego that

396
00:22:24,855 --> 00:22:26,865
is inside of me, that evil fault line.

397
00:22:28,215 --> 00:22:36,615
If I, if I, I do have there is control
over it, there is, you know, and not

398
00:22:36,615 --> 00:22:37,995
everyone's going to have that control.

399
00:22:38,325 --> 00:22:39,885
Some of us are assassinated.

400
00:22:40,665 --> 00:22:41,985
Potent might be assassinated.

401
00:22:43,575 --> 00:22:46,335
You know, because do people just
don't want to handle it anymore.

402
00:22:46,815 --> 00:22:47,145
Right.

403
00:22:47,685 --> 00:22:49,305
But he's ready for that.

404
00:22:49,695 --> 00:22:51,165
What are you and me ready for?

405
00:22:51,285 --> 00:22:52,305
That's a different question.

406
00:22:52,695 --> 00:22:55,305
We're going to outlive
this guy even naturally.

407
00:22:55,455 --> 00:22:55,875
Totally.

408
00:22:56,415 --> 00:22:57,225
We're going to be a lot.

409
00:22:57,345 --> 00:23:01,845
And which means we're going to carry
a lot more wisdom works or we're

410
00:23:01,845 --> 00:23:06,015
going to carry wisdom further so
to speak, you know what I'm saying?

411
00:23:06,135 --> 00:23:06,465
Right.

412
00:23:07,215 --> 00:23:18,435
And I mean, dude, It's a very, very
complex bowl of nutrients that we

413
00:23:18,435 --> 00:23:22,485
don't want the wrong, like wrong ones
were, have too much of the right ones.

414
00:23:22,514 --> 00:23:26,774
Even, you know, again, this
is a balance to this stuff.

415
00:23:26,835 --> 00:23:27,825
We have to be happy.

416
00:23:28,545 --> 00:23:29,625
We have to be good.

417
00:23:29,625 --> 00:23:32,835
We have to be, we have to feel
that God has loved, you know, like

418
00:23:33,075 --> 00:23:36,795
for whatever that means to each
person, individually is eight.

419
00:23:36,825 --> 00:23:41,775
You know, there's billions of us here,
but yet we have these custom fingerprints.

420
00:23:42,225 --> 00:23:43,065
That means something.

421
00:23:43,635 --> 00:23:47,895
That means something that means that you
do have to figure out what your custom is.

422
00:23:48,405 --> 00:23:53,205
You have to, and if it doesn't feel custom
to you, then do something else for the

423
00:23:53,205 --> 00:23:54,645
time being and come back to the other.

424
00:23:55,905 --> 00:23:58,365
It doesn't feel customed
because you were without your

425
00:23:58,365 --> 00:24:00,375
decision, you were made customer.

426
00:24:01,185 --> 00:24:05,595
Just look at, look at yourself, look
at your hands, look at your prints.

427
00:24:06,945 --> 00:24:08,865
It holds in your decision to be unique.

428
00:24:09,405 --> 00:24:10,785
And yet we still try.

429
00:24:11,925 --> 00:24:15,555
You already are like,
like, like I have a car.

430
00:24:16,305 --> 00:24:21,255
I don't try to be, you
know, like something worse.

431
00:24:22,365 --> 00:24:22,875
You know what I mean?

432
00:24:23,054 --> 00:24:28,784
Like a fricking bicycle, you know,
when I need to go to a hundred miles

433
00:24:28,784 --> 00:24:32,145
away, you know, it's already unique
and everything already makes sense.

434
00:24:32,175 --> 00:24:32,774
Like it's there.

435
00:24:32,865 --> 00:24:37,725
Or like it's not the greatest probably
metaphor, but like, you know, why am

436
00:24:37,725 --> 00:24:40,215
I trying to be something else when
I didn't even have to choose it?

437
00:24:42,585 --> 00:24:46,065
And literally like the most custom
thing you can think of is yourself,

438
00:24:46,455 --> 00:24:48,735
because that's the way God made you.

439
00:24:48,735 --> 00:24:51,795
And he's like flowing through you, but
we do have these brains and they're

440
00:24:51,825 --> 00:24:55,305
very difficult to, to navigate insanely.

441
00:24:56,115 --> 00:25:02,385
Do you feel cause I, I totally love,
I mean, it's powerful thought that

442
00:25:03,435 --> 00:25:08,445
without, without our choice, we were
created custom without our choice,

443
00:25:08,445 --> 00:25:10,035
we were creating completely unique.

444
00:25:12,604 --> 00:25:14,524
Don't you don't you feel

445
00:25:18,084 --> 00:25:22,975
that even though we were created
unique, many people want to just

446
00:25:22,975 --> 00:25:26,125
like, say you do want to be unique,
but they want to be unique, but

447
00:25:26,245 --> 00:25:27,715
totally just fit in with the crowd.

448
00:25:27,715 --> 00:25:28,735
They don't want to stand out.

449
00:25:29,514 --> 00:25:30,865
They want to blend in.

450
00:25:33,145 --> 00:25:33,685
Yeah.

451
00:25:34,135 --> 00:25:36,145
You know, um, I've had the question.

452
00:25:37,350 --> 00:25:41,520
Uh, I've had the question from
a few, like a couple of people.

453
00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:45,209
Where were you two years
ago on this Ukraine stuff?

454
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:46,709
Where were you?

455
00:25:47,399 --> 00:25:47,600
Right.

456
00:25:47,610 --> 00:25:49,320
Cause people are mad and
now you're talking up.

457
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,370
Cause it's a hot topic.

458
00:25:51,929 --> 00:25:52,230
Yeah.

459
00:25:53,010 --> 00:25:58,860
I didn't know that I was half Ukrainian,
nine months ago, seven months ago.

460
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,830
I thought it was a rushing kit because
we were busy on not being poor.

461
00:26:05,210 --> 00:26:06,110
And I'd go over there.

462
00:26:06,110 --> 00:26:07,490
I look into my records.

463
00:26:08,210 --> 00:26:10,400
I get all my birth certificates sent over.

464
00:26:11,060 --> 00:26:11,960
I'm like, what the heck?

465
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:12,770
I'm half Ukrainian.

466
00:26:12,770 --> 00:26:13,430
This is crazy.

467
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,250
I got the citizenship that I can
literally be a president there.

468
00:26:17,210 --> 00:26:17,600
Dang.

469
00:26:17,660 --> 00:26:18,920
If it doesn't become Russia.

470
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:19,580
Yeah.

471
00:26:20,810 --> 00:26:21,320
Yeah, man.

472
00:26:21,470 --> 00:26:23,120
Uh, I'm a dual citizen, bro.

473
00:26:23,150 --> 00:26:23,450
Yeah.

474
00:26:23,450 --> 00:26:26,300
Well, we'll see how long that
if it, if it lasts for sure it

475
00:26:26,300 --> 00:26:29,570
should last, you know, um, but.

476
00:26:31,830 --> 00:26:32,220
Yeah.

477
00:26:32,430 --> 00:26:37,290
You know, uh, and I didn't even
know, I, now I'm standing up because

478
00:26:37,290 --> 00:26:40,290
I know some people don't even know
what to stand out for and that's

479
00:26:40,290 --> 00:26:41,370
why they're not standing out.

480
00:26:41,670 --> 00:26:47,520
And what if, if what they do know it's,
so it might feel like it's powerful,

481
00:26:48,210 --> 00:26:49,980
but it needs a lot more weight.

482
00:26:50,100 --> 00:26:52,080
It needs a lot more commute.

483
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:57,690
Like, I mean, in, in the way, in this, in
the sense of standing out, it needs more.

484
00:26:59,505 --> 00:27:04,005
But if I want to stand out on a
world tour, but I got, I got, um,

485
00:27:04,185 --> 00:27:07,215
I got accepted to go winter jam.

486
00:27:07,215 --> 00:27:10,515
It's like one of the most,
whatever attended music tours

487
00:27:10,515 --> 00:27:12,885
in human history, whatever.

488
00:27:12,885 --> 00:27:21,285
And, uh, you know, like if I,
if I want, I w if I'm out there,

489
00:27:21,315 --> 00:27:24,345
it's 50 people that are behind.

490
00:27:25,820 --> 00:27:30,500
The idea behind the concept to help
somebody stand out in front of, on

491
00:27:30,500 --> 00:27:33,500
stage in front of 15,000 every night.

492
00:27:34,700 --> 00:27:38,300
There's a whole, it's a whole thing,
you know, and some people aren't ready.

493
00:27:38,300 --> 00:27:39,590
You can't just throw a person on there.

494
00:27:39,590 --> 00:27:43,490
It's like it's, it's, there's
engineering to all that spiritual.

495
00:27:44,805 --> 00:27:48,585
You know, like said glue
kind of wrote like some book.

496
00:27:48,585 --> 00:27:52,065
I think I started reading it in our
engineering, but like a lot of this

497
00:27:52,065 --> 00:27:54,675
stuff goes way up really far, you know?

498
00:27:55,065 --> 00:27:57,764
And actually he does, I don't know
if you re like listened to him,

499
00:27:57,764 --> 00:27:58,845
but he does talk about some stuff.

500
00:27:58,845 --> 00:28:02,145
I just listen to him on the Joe
Rogan podcast yesterday, or something

501
00:28:02,805 --> 00:28:05,175
about, he's talking about like taking
care of the soil because there's

502
00:28:05,175 --> 00:28:06,675
logical things that he talks about.

503
00:28:06,675 --> 00:28:07,095
He sounds like.

504
00:28:08,205 --> 00:28:13,635
Rich kids sometimes, but like, you know,
but like he, you know, he does talk

505
00:28:13,635 --> 00:28:17,145
about some stuff that the very has a lot
of weight to it when it comes to like,

506
00:28:17,145 --> 00:28:20,504
let's take care of like where we're from.

507
00:28:20,685 --> 00:28:23,055
Like for instance, our
soil is dying right now.

508
00:28:23,895 --> 00:28:25,485
We've sucked so much, you know?

509
00:28:25,514 --> 00:28:25,875
Yeah.

510
00:28:25,905 --> 00:28:31,965
We've sucked that something nutrients
out of it with, you know, modifying

511
00:28:32,685 --> 00:28:35,535
genes, you know, modifying DNA.

512
00:28:36,689 --> 00:28:37,439
Yeah.

513
00:28:37,500 --> 00:28:42,060
Like we were just wanting to get
more, you know, whatever war is.

514
00:28:43,379 --> 00:28:47,580
And some, some of it's like, yo, really?

515
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,889
And it's going to take guys like you
and me bro, because, um, life and

516
00:28:52,889 --> 00:28:54,659
death is in the power of the tongue.

517
00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,000
That might not make sense in
every situation, but you can

518
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,889
relate it to it, you know?

519
00:29:02,189 --> 00:29:04,199
And in a lot of situations, it is.

520
00:29:07,850 --> 00:29:11,720
There's a lot to unpack there too,
you know, in our tongues, like, like

521
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,850
what we're speaking into existence.

522
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:19,159
Um, and it makes money, it prints money.

523
00:29:19,159 --> 00:29:22,699
It builds governments, it stirs pod.

524
00:29:22,970 --> 00:29:25,610
It sends podcasts into the world.

525
00:29:26,330 --> 00:29:30,399
You know, it's like, uh,
it's beyond just community.

526
00:29:30,399 --> 00:29:32,139
It's not just communicating.

527
00:29:33,750 --> 00:29:39,060
You know, words or meanings, but it
has power to build power to destroy.

528
00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:44,550
When we, when we greet to something
and shake a hand or write something on

529
00:29:44,550 --> 00:29:49,679
a paper, it means it means something
between people write treaties or

530
00:29:49,679 --> 00:29:54,600
contracts, or even a verbal agreement
between someone when we break our word,

531
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,179
it actually means something has weight.

532
00:29:58,060 --> 00:30:00,689
Uh, I was thinking about
that a couple of weeks ago.

533
00:30:01,905 --> 00:30:07,845
And it just, it's fascinating how as
humans, when I give my word to someone

534
00:30:08,175 --> 00:30:13,245
about something and if I break it,
you know, it's, it's easy to not easy,

535
00:30:13,245 --> 00:30:17,044
but I often find myself breaking my
words to my kids, where they feel.

536
00:30:17,804 --> 00:30:20,594
Where we say, you know, well, you
know, hopefully this weekend, maybe

537
00:30:20,594 --> 00:30:22,725
this weekend we'll be able to do
this, you know, whatever it is.

538
00:30:23,115 --> 00:30:25,875
And then the week, everything
else comes up, like you said, it's

539
00:30:25,875 --> 00:30:29,865
like, okay, we, we, we say, right.

540
00:30:29,865 --> 00:30:32,774
So, but, but it's interesting
that there really is.

541
00:30:33,314 --> 00:30:38,715
There's something spiritual
and powerful in the spoken word

542
00:30:38,925 --> 00:30:42,735
that we can say something with
the spoken word and because of.

543
00:30:43,965 --> 00:30:47,594
We can say something with
our word and stop a war.

544
00:30:47,955 --> 00:30:52,844
Like there is a spiritual force behind it.

545
00:30:53,354 --> 00:30:58,064
It's blessed are the peacemakers that
there is, uh, you can actually be a

546
00:30:58,125 --> 00:31:09,475
peacemaker and build peace through
your words, which is powerful spirit,

547
00:31:09,504 --> 00:31:11,635
deeply spiritual metaphysical.

548
00:31:14,825 --> 00:31:18,515
And it's so funny that you say
that peacemaker it's that's knob.

549
00:31:18,545 --> 00:31:24,545
My last name means that in Slavic and
anytime I'm in a project where I'm not

550
00:31:24,545 --> 00:31:27,065
creating peace, I always feel conviction.

551
00:31:27,335 --> 00:31:31,805
Always whether I act on it or that
feeling, that conviction and these

552
00:31:31,805 --> 00:31:35,615
days I know my limited energy
amounts in the next half hour.

553
00:31:36,375 --> 00:31:41,475
I, you know, I know that I
don't want, I, I enjoy, I enjoy

554
00:31:41,505 --> 00:31:43,215
the, the trail that I'm on.

555
00:31:43,815 --> 00:31:47,625
And I'm like, it has a lot to
do with creating peace, bro.

556
00:31:47,835 --> 00:31:51,765
You know, whatever our products
are, whatever our bread, your breads

557
00:31:51,765 --> 00:31:57,375
are, whatever your logo, whatever,
whatever my businesses are, whatever my

558
00:31:57,375 --> 00:31:59,205
investments or whatever my community is.

559
00:31:59,895 --> 00:32:04,625
Is it peaceful or is it another
stage trying to compete with another.

560
00:32:05,930 --> 00:32:08,480
Or is it peaceful because
it's not easy to create peace.

561
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:15,110
It really is not because you, I think
you have to go through a lot of tyranny.

562
00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:19,790
Maybe even if it's spiritual to be
like, do I give up God, I give up,

563
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,950
like, I, I have to be a peacemaker.

564
00:32:25,490 --> 00:32:27,200
That is, that is true.

565
00:32:28,070 --> 00:32:33,290
You have to go through so much
tyranny to, to create peace.

566
00:32:36,419 --> 00:32:43,050
I've been thinking about this, you
know, with us American pundents and I

567
00:32:43,050 --> 00:32:47,100
can kind of sometimes fall into that,
you know, I can fall into that trap.

568
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:54,179
Um, and thinking about this conflict,
you know, seeing a lot of pundits, you

569
00:32:54,179 --> 00:32:59,129
know, back one side or the other, but not
in a way that's making peace, you know?

570
00:32:59,129 --> 00:33:00,980
So I see a lot of people back.

571
00:33:01,905 --> 00:33:06,645
The Ukraine, but it's not in a
way it's like make for peace.

572
00:33:06,645 --> 00:33:12,405
It's in a way to make for war or
people backing the th the Russian

573
00:33:12,405 --> 00:33:17,865
arguments or echoing the, you
know, Russian talking points.

574
00:33:18,794 --> 00:33:20,115
And it's not in a way to make for peace.

575
00:33:20,115 --> 00:33:23,895
It's a way to make full war, you know,
one side saying, well, look at everything

576
00:33:23,895 --> 00:33:27,195
that they censor in Ukraine or in.

577
00:33:28,590 --> 00:33:31,260
And yet my, you know, I can't read RT.

578
00:33:31,290 --> 00:33:35,550
I can't read the Russian times to get
what the Russian times is saying on

579
00:33:35,670 --> 00:33:38,280
telegram because that's been censored.

580
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:39,960
Right.

581
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,550
So are you running on a VPN?

582
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:43,620
Uh, no.

583
00:33:43,620 --> 00:33:47,040
I guess telegram uses like your,
your phone, the phone number that

584
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,480
you're registered registered in.

585
00:33:48,690 --> 00:33:53,280
So it's like, I guess I pay for, uh, the
point, the point just for a quick sec.

586
00:33:53,510 --> 00:33:54,690
Wait, wait, wait, let me, let me finish.

587
00:33:56,459 --> 00:33:59,520
No, don't let me forget to give you
a VPN for free that I paid for it.

588
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:00,810
I'm just trying to tell
you something good.

589
00:34:02,010 --> 00:34:03,659
So you can see what news across the world.

590
00:34:04,260 --> 00:34:09,179
Can you, yeah, I have a VPN, so
that's not the, oh, you should

591
00:34:09,179 --> 00:34:11,069
use it to see Russian me, right.

592
00:34:11,409 --> 00:34:11,830
Well, yeah.

593
00:34:11,830 --> 00:34:15,670
So I guess it's just on the, it's just
on my phone and it's just on telegram

594
00:34:16,029 --> 00:34:21,489
that it's, it's blocked because my phone
number is a us registered phone number.

595
00:34:22,949 --> 00:34:27,029
And so it doesn't get around it, but
the point being, you know, how, how

596
00:34:27,029 --> 00:34:31,379
many posts get flagged and taken down
as misinformation only to find out six

597
00:34:31,379 --> 00:34:32,790
months later, it's real information.

598
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:38,819
So with, within the making of war and
making a conflict there's finances.

599
00:34:39,885 --> 00:34:44,655
So within the, you know, this is the
whole social media algorithm, Google

600
00:34:44,865 --> 00:34:51,095
trap that it's within the making of
controversial statements in the, the

601
00:34:51,195 --> 00:34:57,285
building up of conflict between people
and taking a hard line side that then

602
00:34:57,285 --> 00:35:01,905
drives more, clicks, more comments,
more engagement, more conflict.

603
00:35:01,905 --> 00:35:06,885
And that puts you down a self
fulfilling prophecy almost to continue

604
00:35:06,885 --> 00:35:08,065
down that road because that's what.

605
00:35:08,955 --> 00:35:09,885
Attraction.

606
00:35:10,155 --> 00:35:15,915
That's what gains eyeballs as what gains
stages and audiences, because you're

607
00:35:16,485 --> 00:35:19,275
controversial because you're not making
for peace, but you're making it for war.

608
00:35:20,115 --> 00:35:22,125
And yet what you're saying, and I love it.

609
00:35:23,445 --> 00:35:29,905
It's when you have a message that's
making for peace, oftentimes both

610
00:35:29,905 --> 00:35:32,485
sides we're making for war hate it.

611
00:35:32,815 --> 00:35:35,935
And you know, this is what I experienced
within the Israeli Palestinian.

612
00:35:37,305 --> 00:35:41,234
I was saying, Hey guys, I think there,
I think both sides are doing things that

613
00:35:41,234 --> 00:35:47,265
are wrong, but I also think that that,
that means, I think that Hamas is a

614
00:35:47,265 --> 00:35:52,185
terrorist organization, which is doing
things that are wrong in distributively

615
00:35:52,455 --> 00:35:58,755
shooting missiles at civilian populations
we need, and that's not helping the

616
00:35:58,755 --> 00:36:02,055
people who are paying the costs for
it, which is the Palestinian people

617
00:36:02,055 --> 00:36:04,605
were being crushed from both sides.

618
00:36:04,605 --> 00:36:05,984
Just like in this conflict with.

619
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,600
Being crushed by both sides.

620
00:36:10,260 --> 00:36:15,480
And so I stood up and I, I made statements
saying, Hey, we need to make for peace.

621
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,580
We need to, we need to solve for peace.

622
00:36:18,510 --> 00:36:22,290
But there are a lot of people who
have come into agreement with the

623
00:36:22,290 --> 00:36:25,980
shedding of innocent blood, come into
agreement with the spirit of war making,

624
00:36:25,980 --> 00:36:31,020
for making for war, not peace, just
like I see them both sides of this

625
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,200
conflict within, you know, the native.

626
00:36:35,295 --> 00:36:38,085
And Russia, both sides.

627
00:36:39,285 --> 00:36:43,665
And yet the people who are being crushed
or the Ukrainian people, like the orphans

628
00:36:44,445 --> 00:36:50,145
that your, your friend is helping saving,
you know, saving all these baby orphans.

629
00:36:51,675 --> 00:37:01,875
And, and it's the people like him, this
guy from Portland, Oregon, who, you know,

630
00:37:04,064 --> 00:37:05,865
Who's you just a regular guy, right?

631
00:37:06,404 --> 00:37:08,325
Your friend is just a regular guy.

632
00:37:09,345 --> 00:37:11,955
It's not that he's done
something incredible.

633
00:37:11,955 --> 00:37:15,944
It's not that he's some superhero
incredibly well, I mean, maybe

634
00:37:15,944 --> 00:37:22,004
he's connected, but he decided
to go after Crimea, go over and

635
00:37:22,004 --> 00:37:24,975
help orphans, help people in need.

636
00:37:25,544 --> 00:37:27,285
And he's someone that makes for peace.

637
00:37:29,330 --> 00:37:32,930
Just like you, you're standing up on your
Instagram and you're making for peace.

638
00:37:32,930 --> 00:37:37,070
You're saying, you know what,
forget all these politics, like

639
00:37:38,750 --> 00:37:42,350
the civilian populations being
crushed let's make for peace.

640
00:37:44,020 --> 00:37:44,620
It is.

641
00:37:44,890 --> 00:37:47,050
And it's lied, lied about.

642
00:37:47,860 --> 00:37:50,740
Um, and it's.

643
00:37:50,770 --> 00:37:51,310
Yeah.

644
00:37:51,820 --> 00:37:54,820
And, and I didn't mean
to interrupt you earlier.

645
00:37:54,820 --> 00:37:55,750
I'm sorry about that.

646
00:37:58,095 --> 00:38:03,735
Yeah, I just, you know, you w you want
to be able to see study, like, see what

647
00:38:03,735 --> 00:38:09,075
a demon looks like in a person, but
for real, in a social media, not just

648
00:38:09,285 --> 00:38:14,475
church media, church media, you know,
it's cool and everything, but right now

649
00:38:14,535 --> 00:38:16,005
churches don't usually start warrants.

650
00:38:16,725 --> 00:38:21,840
Usually I don't think from what I
understand, Maybe, I don't know, maybe

651
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,290
some religions do, but current, the
way that church churches are going,

652
00:38:25,590 --> 00:38:35,850
typically not, you know, starting wars,
you know, and, uh, they have a bad, wait,

653
00:38:35,850 --> 00:38:41,460
wait church when church, when religion
becomes blended with the political

654
00:38:41,460 --> 00:38:46,260
system and there's, and there's no way to
differentiate between the political system

655
00:38:46,260 --> 00:38:52,890
and a religion, uh, Those organizations
and the same thing when you don't have

656
00:38:52,890 --> 00:38:58,830
a differentiation between the political
system and the economic system, those

657
00:38:58,830 --> 00:39:01,740
systems often tend to create war.

658
00:39:03,910 --> 00:39:04,480
Yeah.

659
00:39:05,980 --> 00:39:08,740
That's why the separation of church
and state is pretty important.

660
00:39:08,740 --> 00:39:08,980
Right.

661
00:39:09,580 --> 00:39:14,380
Which was the separation of
church of state from church

662
00:39:14,380 --> 00:39:17,170
where the political organization.

663
00:39:17,985 --> 00:39:19,515
Couldn't control the church.

664
00:39:21,315 --> 00:39:21,435
Yeah.

665
00:39:21,465 --> 00:39:23,595
Not that the church could
indicate age or religion.

666
00:39:23,595 --> 00:39:26,385
Couldn't engage in the political
process with, with their

667
00:39:27,105 --> 00:39:28,665
religious morals and values.

668
00:39:30,245 --> 00:39:32,615
Yeah, we influence, yeah.

669
00:39:32,615 --> 00:39:36,005
We influence, you know, we
can influence polit politics.

670
00:39:36,575 --> 00:39:42,785
Uh, you know, we're sitting with this
with this oligarchy and Ukraine, uh,

671
00:39:42,785 --> 00:39:46,680
and he was wining and dining us and
he said, What or whatever it was.

672
00:39:46,710 --> 00:39:47,460
I got it.

673
00:39:47,490 --> 00:39:48,839
You want a few women?

674
00:39:48,839 --> 00:39:49,710
You want this?

675
00:39:49,710 --> 00:39:50,850
You want alcohol?

676
00:39:51,210 --> 00:39:54,210
What's uh, you know, like whatever, I'm
just like, y'all just take some hummus.

677
00:39:54,299 --> 00:39:54,750
I'm good.

678
00:39:55,649 --> 00:39:57,660
In a Pete, you some Peter we're chilling.

679
00:39:58,169 --> 00:39:58,589
We're hanging.

680
00:39:58,629 --> 00:39:59,580
Keep hanging out with them.

681
00:39:59,580 --> 00:40:04,470
We'd go to another like venue where it's
like the best spot in downtown Kiev.

682
00:40:04,500 --> 00:40:05,970
All this he's wanting in dining.

683
00:40:07,049 --> 00:40:08,520
Uh, it was minus the wine.

684
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:09,779
I'm not on drink, but.

685
00:40:12,095 --> 00:40:15,765
And I don't, I don't mind
people that do either way, as

686
00:40:15,765 --> 00:40:17,085
long as it's not hurting them.

687
00:40:17,145 --> 00:40:20,745
Then at the end of the eight
hours hanging out with.

688
00:40:21,705 --> 00:40:27,165
You know, walk around, like with all
this wealthy as personal securities, no

689
00:40:27,165 --> 00:40:32,055
people have, nobody has guns and Ukraine,
but rich dudes, you know, so to speak or

690
00:40:32,055 --> 00:40:34,365
politicians maybe like that are up there.

691
00:40:34,904 --> 00:40:39,285
And, uh, and he goes to my buddy,
uh, one of my business partners out

692
00:40:39,285 --> 00:40:44,715
there in, in key, if, uh, or we, you
know, we were still friends, we used

693
00:40:44,715 --> 00:40:50,285
to be business partners and he's
like, dude, he's like, I have to say.

694
00:40:51,715 --> 00:40:56,725
All the stuff that I've been involved
with last 20 years, he's like, I was

695
00:40:56,725 --> 00:41:01,555
raised Christian and he's like, I know
what I have to do, you know, he's I got,

696
00:41:02,255 --> 00:41:05,065
I got, I know I have to give my life up.

697
00:41:05,575 --> 00:41:06,715
I don't have to give this up.

698
00:41:07,525 --> 00:41:12,415
Like, it's just so hard for me to do, you
know, I have to give, I have to give all

699
00:41:12,415 --> 00:41:15,205
this craziness, all this film that I'm in.

700
00:41:15,265 --> 00:41:15,685
That's.

701
00:41:18,044 --> 00:41:19,935
That everybody thinks is awesome.

702
00:41:20,475 --> 00:41:23,625
I mean, we speak about it all the time,
but when you see a person say it and

703
00:41:23,625 --> 00:41:30,044
you see a soul soul trying to get out
and a demons almost all the way out.

704
00:41:31,544 --> 00:41:31,904
Good.

705
00:41:31,935 --> 00:41:34,395
You know, that's why
we, that's why we talk.

706
00:41:34,404 --> 00:41:35,205
That's why we speak.

707
00:41:36,735 --> 00:41:39,495
That's why somebody might take
this podcast, they might translate

708
00:41:39,495 --> 00:41:42,075
it, you know, and they might
be in Ukrainian or in Russia.

709
00:41:42,125 --> 00:41:43,555
I'm my I'm gonna have to pay.

710
00:41:43,555 --> 00:41:48,975
I actually was thinking about paying
for it myself and, uh, yeah, bro, like,

711
00:41:50,505 --> 00:41:54,975
you know what more importantly, while
we're here together right now, it kind

712
00:41:54,975 --> 00:41:56,655
to put myself more in your shoes, bro.

713
00:41:57,945 --> 00:42:00,585
Like you do with social media, right?

714
00:42:01,635 --> 00:42:03,945
Um, sometimes.

715
00:42:06,030 --> 00:42:11,670
I feel like because we're a lot of
times more times than not in, in a

716
00:42:11,670 --> 00:42:18,780
war with powers and principalities of
darkness, you know, what's the point of

717
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:26,160
listening to 7 million people who are
seven, maybe to somebody at 7 billion.

718
00:42:26,820 --> 00:42:30,870
If you know, deep down inside,
it's not your ego say, but

719
00:42:30,870 --> 00:42:32,770
your spirit saying that's not.

720
00:42:34,615 --> 00:42:35,815
I don't care about the fame.

721
00:42:37,015 --> 00:42:41,125
I'm going to go back and worry to
make sure there's food in my, you

722
00:42:41,125 --> 00:42:44,545
know, there's food in my stomach
is food and the stomachs of people

723
00:42:44,545 --> 00:42:49,555
around me who are going to make wise
decisions and we're going to grow.

724
00:42:49,615 --> 00:42:54,444
And 60 years from now, which is
going to fly by like this, it's

725
00:42:54,444 --> 00:42:55,674
going to be completely differently.

726
00:42:57,385 --> 00:42:59,685
Going to be a completely different
landscape because of what we were

727
00:42:59,685 --> 00:43:03,075
thinking about because of what we are
podcasts about, because of all that.

728
00:43:03,405 --> 00:43:04,425
And you're under that pressure.

729
00:43:04,425 --> 00:43:08,055
Cause you're like, you know,
you have a quality studio, bro.

730
00:43:08,055 --> 00:43:14,115
Like you have massive, massive studio, you
know, that is going to be huge, you know?

731
00:43:14,175 --> 00:43:20,265
And it's and all these trends and
all this stuff that's out there.

732
00:43:20,265 --> 00:43:24,555
That's trying to tell anybody
that's like you or like.

733
00:43:26,065 --> 00:43:30,865
Um, that we're doing something
wrong and that we're not living

734
00:43:30,865 --> 00:43:31,915
up to what needs to happen.

735
00:43:32,274 --> 00:43:36,955
No competition is good when
it's from the holy spirit, so

736
00:43:36,955 --> 00:43:38,964
to speak, you know what I mean?

737
00:43:38,964 --> 00:43:39,685
Like it's good.

738
00:43:40,055 --> 00:43:46,045
And, and all that is good, but resist the
devil and no, the, no, the demons, like,

739
00:43:46,075 --> 00:43:51,924
no, as we'd like Pentecostals say or, or
whatever, whatever that means, but like,

740
00:43:54,105 --> 00:44:00,915
Even if it might be my friend, it might
be my brother God's in him, you know,

741
00:44:01,335 --> 00:44:07,095
but they they're letting a little bit of
the DNA they want to flirt around with.

742
00:44:07,815 --> 00:44:09,035
They want to flirt with the double.

743
00:44:09,065 --> 00:44:14,205
They want to dangerous devil devil
wears Prada, devil wears fancy stuff.

744
00:44:15,044 --> 00:44:17,745
Sometimes angel, you know, it really does.

745
00:44:20,820 --> 00:44:25,260
There's a, there's an Arabic, there's
an Arabic saying it's a, an Arabic

746
00:44:25,860 --> 00:44:30,840
ISAM, Shaya, what button Jaya, which
is the name is famous, but the stomach

747
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:36,750
is empty or the stomach is hungry and
it's, you know, they, they meet it.

748
00:44:37,260 --> 00:44:39,960
There's two different kinds
of contextual meanings to it.

749
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:44,880
One is that, you know, you, you
pretend to be the rich guy, but

750
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,330
you actually, you know, you're
broke because you're overextended.

751
00:44:49,050 --> 00:44:55,050
But then there's the other, the other
meaning that it reminds you of what you

752
00:44:55,050 --> 00:45:03,450
just said of how, you know, we could
chase the 7 million or a hundred million,

753
00:45:03,540 --> 00:45:10,980
700 million people and to get the
affirmation or controversy or energy from

754
00:45:10,980 --> 00:45:15,450
them, but really we could be just empty.

755
00:45:16,275 --> 00:45:23,415
Empty vessels, empty clouds that
promises rain, but just as empty or

756
00:45:23,415 --> 00:45:25,215
we can, we can pull back from that.

757
00:45:25,255 --> 00:45:29,145
As you said, you know, 60 years
is going to go by, you know,

758
00:45:29,265 --> 00:45:33,465
like that, and I'm already, you
know, I could be already halfway.

759
00:45:33,675 --> 00:45:35,145
I can be over halfway through my life.

760
00:45:35,145 --> 00:45:37,725
You don't know, you know, you
just had a near death experience.

761
00:45:37,725 --> 00:45:38,865
You got hit by a car.

762
00:45:40,695 --> 00:45:44,945
But walking through crosswalk red
light, 74 kilometer kilometer,

763
00:45:44,965 --> 00:45:46,695
brother, 74 kilometers an hour.

764
00:45:46,965 --> 00:45:47,775
Oh my gosh.

765
00:45:47,805 --> 00:45:48,975
Almost 50 miles an hour.

766
00:45:49,725 --> 00:45:50,365
I'm talking about like

767
00:45:53,805 --> 00:45:57,465
out titanium plate put in you,
you had a brushed Rosette.

768
00:45:57,495 --> 00:45:59,925
You could have been, we can not
be having this podcast right now.

769
00:45:59,925 --> 00:46:02,775
We could not be having this
conversation right now.

770
00:46:03,045 --> 00:46:07,155
So you don't know the time, but at the
end of the day, like what matters the.

771
00:46:08,835 --> 00:46:12,885
The controversy, the followers,
the likes, no, that's my family.

772
00:46:12,885 --> 00:46:17,835
It's it's whether or not my stomach
was filled with the richness and the

773
00:46:17,895 --> 00:46:24,015
goodness and the truth of God, not the,
the theme of the world and the attention

774
00:46:24,015 --> 00:46:25,725
of the world and the money of the world.

775
00:46:25,725 --> 00:46:33,075
Whatever is that the emptiness that we're
chasing to try to, as you so rightly say.

776
00:46:35,625 --> 00:46:38,805
Be unique, trying to fill,
trying to feel like we're unique.

777
00:46:38,865 --> 00:46:42,885
We're something special, even
though we were born unique

778
00:46:43,485 --> 00:46:45,135
without asking, without learning.

779
00:46:45,405 --> 00:46:47,415
That's how, you know,
you're just given that way.

780
00:46:49,065 --> 00:46:53,145
Um, they're, they're famous
full, but their spirit is empty.

781
00:46:53,535 --> 00:46:53,835
Yeah.

782
00:46:54,825 --> 00:46:55,065
Yeah.

783
00:46:55,065 --> 00:46:55,695
It's some shy.

784
00:46:55,695 --> 00:46:59,235
So their name is famous,
but their stomach is empty.

785
00:47:03,570 --> 00:47:06,480
But, uh, yeah.

786
00:47:06,750 --> 00:47:10,800
And, and as you said, you know,
all those, all those who are making

787
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:15,930
war, you know, making for war, they
are, you know, here today and gone

788
00:47:15,930 --> 00:47:22,110
tomorrow, but the righteous, those
who make for peace, they shall remain,

789
00:47:25,470 --> 00:47:26,250
you know, as you said,

790
00:47:31,530 --> 00:47:31,800
Yeah,

791
00:47:35,700 --> 00:47:38,760
well, my head starting to hurt a little
bit after the surgeries and all that.

792
00:47:39,030 --> 00:47:41,130
Um, yeah.

793
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:46,230
Um, and, uh, let's keep
rocking and rolling.

794
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:47,970
Staying in touch.

795
00:47:49,230 --> 00:47:52,680
I got a bunch of meetings the
next four months across the

796
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,770
U S um, I got this big one.

797
00:47:57,450 --> 00:47:58,230
On Friday.

798
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:03,780
Uh, so just, just paving the way, man.

799
00:48:05,340 --> 00:48:11,400
I'm looking for people that are
peaceful, not looking for any, uh, not

800
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:16,230
looking for anybody that's combative,
you know, in a sense that, uh, combat

801
00:48:16,230 --> 00:48:18,570
is good, but it needs to be from God.

802
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,020
You know, when we're fighting, when
we're Christians and we're fighting

803
00:48:22,020 --> 00:48:25,430
against each other and all this stuff
and we should repent and we should.

804
00:48:26,190 --> 00:48:29,760
Like, you know, figure out a
better way because that's not

805
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,390
part of the desktop part of the
plan combat is when it's from God.

806
00:48:33,390 --> 00:48:33,930
It's okay.

807
00:48:34,020 --> 00:48:38,850
You know, but when it's, uh, you
have to be able to say that that

808
00:48:38,850 --> 00:48:42,390
combat was from God and you can't
look your brother in the face that's

809
00:48:42,390 --> 00:48:45,090
in your community or in your family.

810
00:48:45,090 --> 00:48:49,350
And say that combat was from
God against you from me.

811
00:48:49,380 --> 00:48:51,540
Like what kind of statement is that?

812
00:48:52,290 --> 00:48:52,570
You know,

813
00:48:55,770 --> 00:48:56,880
Yeah, it is.

814
00:48:57,070 --> 00:48:57,400
Yeah.

815
00:48:59,190 --> 00:48:59,580
Yeah.

816
00:49:00,540 --> 00:49:00,930
It's true.

817
00:49:05,490 --> 00:49:08,130
Get some rest, rest that head of yours.

818
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,780
That's all for episode 274, the afterglow.

819
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,510
Thanks for listening to the second half.

820
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,420
If you got value out of the show.

821
00:49:19,710 --> 00:49:22,680
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823
00:49:25,230 --> 00:49:31,920
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824
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825
00:49:35,069 --> 00:49:37,170
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826
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827
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828
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829
00:49:47,715 --> 00:49:50,805
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830
00:49:50,805 --> 00:49:55,995
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831
00:49:56,385 --> 00:49:58,605
We will see you next time on the show.

832
00:49:58,605 --> 00:50:04,395
Remember, you are someone who pursues
truth so that you can live by truth.

833
00:50:04,965 --> 00:50:09,675
And that empowers us and
enables us to own the future.