WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.480 --> 00:00:07.930 Scott Jamieson: Welcome to the Empathy to impact. Podcast 2 00:00:08.029 --> 00:00:23.049 Scott Jamieson: I'm your host, Scott Jameson and I am very excited to be visiting the International School of Uganda and I have 6 students who just finish up byp exhibition 3 00:00:23.060 --> 00:00:39.719 Scott Jamieson: for those who don't know. The Pip exhibition is really the big, culminating event of the Pip program where students have an opportunity to use some of the skills they've learned throughout their pip experience to design their own inquiry 4 00:00:39.730 --> 00:00:40.840 Scott Jamieson: and 5 00:00:41.340 --> 00:00:46.229 Scott Jamieson: in investigate something that they care about 6 00:00:46.270 --> 00:00:50.259 Scott Jamieson: and take action to have a positive impact in their community. 7 00:00:50.290 --> 00:00:55.059 Scott Jamieson: So I'm gonna pass things over to my guest today to do some quick introductions. 8 00:00:59.320 --> 00:01:00.969 dhollis: Hi. My name is Lila. 9 00:01:02.610 --> 00:01:04.480 dhollis: Hi. My name is Ariel. 10 00:01:05.152 --> 00:01:06.200 dhollis: My name is Leah. 11 00:01:06.210 --> 00:01:07.730 dhollis: Hi. My name is Maya 12 00:01:08.150 --> 00:01:10.840 dhollis: Hi. My name is Regan. Hi, my name is Phil. 13 00:01:11.690 --> 00:01:16.360 Scott Jamieson: Alright. I'm so excited to have all of you on the podcast 14 00:01:16.850 --> 00:01:20.550 Scott Jamieson: I wonder if we can start right at the beginning 15 00:01:20.810 --> 00:01:31.210 Scott Jamieson: and go back to. We did something called heart mapping when we were trying to think about what our topic was going to be for exhibition. 16 00:01:31.240 --> 00:01:39.379 Scott Jamieson: Can you tell us a little bit about that heart mapping activity, and how that helped you kind of connect to your topic. 17 00:01:42.870 --> 00:01:43.710 dhollis: Hi! 18 00:01:43.880 --> 00:01:45.740 dhollis: Well, the 19 00:01:46.357 --> 00:01:53.969 dhollis: did the heart map about like things we loved, and then we kind of used it to 20 00:01:54.433 --> 00:01:58.669 dhollis: help us decide our inquiry by matching it with a 21 00:01:58.790 --> 00:02:00.910 dhollis: SDG 22 00:02:01.130 --> 00:02:03.710 dhollis: or a good life goal 23 00:02:03.890 --> 00:02:04.710 dhollis: and 24 00:02:05.640 --> 00:02:10.659 dhollis: we tried to mix this together, using a Venn diagram to have like 25 00:02:11.335 --> 00:02:14.380 dhollis: ideas for what our inquiry was about. 26 00:02:17.810 --> 00:02:29.150 Scott Jamieson: Can you tell me a little bit about how that worked for each of you like? What were some of the things that you care about. And how did you make those connections to the different good life goals that are based on the Sdgs. 27 00:02:30.410 --> 00:02:33.020 dhollis: So for me. I really love 28 00:02:33.030 --> 00:02:35.130 dhollis: animals, so 29 00:02:35.760 --> 00:02:40.460 dhollis: looked into my homeland, and I was looking into endangered animals. 30 00:02:40.610 --> 00:02:44.680 dhollis: I wanted to make it a bit local to Uganda. 31 00:02:44.690 --> 00:02:50.019 dhollis: So I chose a specific animal to work on, and I chose chimpanzees 32 00:02:51.720 --> 00:02:53.799 dhollis: for me, and 33 00:02:53.930 --> 00:03:09.480 dhollis: I also really love animals in the planet. And so I wanted to do something to do with animals and pollution. So I decided to go more local and fresh water pollution. 34 00:03:10.147 --> 00:03:13.840 dhollis: Some fact on animals. So then we can work with like Victoria 35 00:03:14.810 --> 00:03:15.405 dhollis: and 36 00:03:16.210 --> 00:03:24.099 dhollis: I I I my passion is like also really animals as well. So I match Adam? I matched 37 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:26.230 dhollis: a few with good life goals. 38 00:03:26.520 --> 00:03:27.990 dhollis: and we'll do it with you. 39 00:03:28.170 --> 00:03:33.589 dhollis: I picked like I picked my topic to be endanger animals cause I really like to help. 40 00:03:38.430 --> 00:03:39.969 dhollis: No, I'm cool. 41 00:03:40.410 --> 00:03:41.260 dhollis: I 42 00:03:41.430 --> 00:03:50.479 dhollis: I wanted to do something about information because I barely knew anything about it, and I knew it was like a pretty big problem, but I didn't anything. 43 00:03:50.820 --> 00:03:54.190 dhollis: and so I decided to research them 44 00:03:56.950 --> 00:03:59.570 dhollis: alright. We've been both in 45 00:03:59.670 --> 00:04:01.640 dhollis: both did total reach. 46 00:04:01.850 --> 00:04:04.100 dhollis: and for me to 47 00:04:04.230 --> 00:04:17.829 dhollis: the reason we both chose flurries, for our topic is, I mean, we both kind of liked marine animals and had slight fascination with the ocean outage of all animals today. 48 00:04:19.250 --> 00:04:21.909 Scott Jamieson: Those sound like some fantastic topics. 49 00:04:21.970 --> 00:04:28.150 Scott Jamieson: And I like how some of you are connecting those issues, something in your local community. 50 00:04:28.210 --> 00:04:31.310 Scott Jamieson: But I think it's really amazing how we're able to 51 00:04:31.330 --> 00:04:40.139 Scott Jamieson: look at such a broad range of topics and think about how we can connect what we're passionate about with our work towards exhibition. 52 00:04:40.510 --> 00:04:51.909 Scott Jamieson: Now a big part of inquiry, learning is being able to investigate and kind of dig deeper and learn more about some of these different topics. 53 00:04:52.130 --> 00:05:12.349 Scott Jamieson: How are you able to become more deeply aware? Maya, you said that you didn't know a lot about air pollution when you first started? So it was something you had to learn a little bit about. So tell me a little bit from all of you. How did you become more deeply aware of this issue that you cared about. 54 00:05:14.370 --> 00:05:21.739 dhollis: Well, this is how I did this. We first had to do a feature article, and we search enough that 55 00:05:22.030 --> 00:05:23.060 dhollis: something 56 00:05:23.090 --> 00:05:24.809 dhollis: much other things 57 00:05:25.250 --> 00:05:27.590 dhollis: after we have our talking and stuff. 58 00:05:27.880 --> 00:05:33.940 dhollis: And what's I mean? I, one of my things in my feature was, how does it affect 59 00:05:34.030 --> 00:05:36.319 dhollis: humans and animals. 60 00:05:36.640 --> 00:05:40.780 dhollis: and I realize that it affects us way more than we can 61 00:05:40.950 --> 00:05:41.840 dhollis: think of them. 62 00:05:43.440 --> 00:05:44.170 dhollis: Oh. 63 00:05:44.350 --> 00:05:47.220 dhollis: to get rid of me so! 64 00:05:47.820 --> 00:05:49.250 dhollis: And it's true 65 00:05:49.300 --> 00:05:51.399 dhollis: I took like 3 66 00:05:51.520 --> 00:05:53.130 dhollis: I use like the 67 00:05:53.330 --> 00:05:55.300 dhollis: like other beached articles. 68 00:05:55.660 --> 00:05:59.640 dhollis: and that that talked about how evolution was really bad. 69 00:05:59.690 --> 00:06:03.439 dhollis: and I found all about it, and it really helped me 70 00:06:03.560 --> 00:06:05.979 dhollis: learn about it really helped me 71 00:06:06.480 --> 00:06:09.060 dhollis: make my peer. Yeah, this is good as I pass it 72 00:06:10.830 --> 00:06:13.770 dhollis: for me. So 73 00:06:13.780 --> 00:06:16.400 dhollis: after I decided my inquiry 74 00:06:16.580 --> 00:06:20.009 dhollis: like I didn't realize how like 75 00:06:20.190 --> 00:06:24.859 dhollis: how transparencies were super endangered. 76 00:06:24.900 --> 00:06:33.409 dhollis: and I didn't think my inquiry would have a lot of depth, but once I started researching went on. Field trips did a few surveys. 77 00:06:33.430 --> 00:06:35.959 dhollis: and I'm very keen to. 78 00:06:36.080 --> 00:06:49.990 dhollis: I realized that there were 2 that chimpanzees were really really endangered, and we had to do something. So then we moved on to our 79 00:06:50.210 --> 00:06:52.389 dhollis: actions and so and stuff 80 00:06:52.420 --> 00:06:53.670 dhollis: and like 81 00:06:54.660 --> 00:07:01.640 dhollis: overall like I didn't know how big of a problem it was. But now I do 82 00:07:01.900 --> 00:07:04.679 dhollis: so I base my action about the 83 00:07:04.690 --> 00:07:10.619 dhollis: like biggest problems. So I tried to raise awareness. And I did join action with. 84 00:07:10.640 --> 00:07:11.959 dhollis: She's busy with you. 85 00:07:13.240 --> 00:07:16.970 Scott Jamieson: Can you repeat that last part for me just a little bit, and get a little bit quiet. 86 00:07:18.390 --> 00:07:20.092 dhollis: Oh, sorry. So 87 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:21.640 dhollis: I 88 00:07:21.850 --> 00:07:30.459 dhollis: raised awareness, and I did enjoy action at Gb. And reform Africa with everyone here and few more people. 89 00:07:31.390 --> 00:07:32.220 dhollis: and 90 00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:47.800 dhollis: for me, I I researched about it doing our feature article, and I went on some field trip so I could find out more about like how it's a problem. And like, how are all the different ways it affects animals? 91 00:07:47.830 --> 00:08:11.920 dhollis: And I found out that it also affects humans a lot because some humans don't have clean drinking water just like animals. So they also get sick and they get sicker than animals do. But I also didn't know how sick it like. I didn't think animals got sick. They drink it, but I found out that they can get really sick and die. Second 92 00:08:12.627 --> 00:08:16.929 dhollis: entity sales observation. You need to describe that. 93 00:08:17.240 --> 00:08:24.219 dhollis: And the the way I found out was I researched on a lot of websites 94 00:08:24.270 --> 00:08:27.881 dhollis: on things that you have to look out for when, like 95 00:08:28.420 --> 00:08:35.140 dhollis: when you're like having the animal change for what you have to worry about. And so I researched your like. 96 00:08:37.920 --> 00:08:45.280 dhollis: Like a field trip to a tan pool garden and a tempe where I interviewed. 97 00:08:45.862 --> 00:08:47.219 dhollis: The guide is. 98 00:08:47.300 --> 00:08:51.139 dhollis: and I took on water tests of Lake Victoria. 99 00:08:52.980 --> 00:08:59.089 dhollis: So I wasn't really aware how bad it was for the situation with animals in 2024. 100 00:08:59.190 --> 00:09:10.751 dhollis: So what I did was I really researched and dug in a few websites and found out really how much we were affecting the animals. And so 101 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:21.579 dhollis: I went on a few field trips to the Zoo to see, to make sure the animals were like in good condition, and they were being fed and watered every day and treated fairly 102 00:09:22.510 --> 00:09:23.069 dhollis: and 103 00:09:23.920 --> 00:09:25.230 dhollis: I also. 104 00:09:30.340 --> 00:09:31.649 Scott Jamieson: That's okay. Take your time. 105 00:09:35.890 --> 00:09:37.719 dhollis: Interview did you interview? 106 00:09:38.500 --> 00:09:39.450 dhollis: I'm thinking. 107 00:09:43.227 --> 00:09:45.409 dhollis: I also interviewed 108 00:09:45.500 --> 00:09:46.690 dhollis: a few 109 00:09:47.230 --> 00:10:03.109 dhollis: employees to see their knowledge of animals, and they also helped me a lot with my research. So I really like, I really found out how much animals were being like mistreated in the wild. But because most of the causations are us. 110 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:10.029 dhollis: and like pollution, deforestation, many caused by us. So what I decided to do 111 00:10:10.070 --> 00:10:12.710 dhollis: was, I decided to interview 112 00:10:13.205 --> 00:10:16.860 dhollis: a lot of animal experts, and then they told me 113 00:10:16.900 --> 00:10:23.939 dhollis: how much their animals were really like in trouble. So that's why I chose my topic to be endangered. Animals. 114 00:10:24.420 --> 00:10:27.390 dhollis: Did you into think about June. 115 00:10:27.910 --> 00:10:30.329 dhollis: and I also interviewed a professional. 116 00:10:32.010 --> 00:10:33.910 dhollis: a professional in lions. 117 00:10:33.920 --> 00:10:35.262 dhollis: Her name is 118 00:10:36.590 --> 00:10:42.988 dhollis: Jennifer Tolbert, and she really helped me raise more awareness about 119 00:10:44.110 --> 00:10:47.650 dhollis: about how animals are being treated in 2024 120 00:10:49.360 --> 00:10:50.520 dhollis: sort of the 121 00:10:50.710 --> 00:10:52.710 dhollis: her names Colleen Finn. 122 00:10:52.830 --> 00:10:59.220 dhollis: We we at first we didn't know a whole lot about fluoridation and how they were dying. 123 00:10:59.260 --> 00:11:04.930 dhollis: But after a lot of research and and an interview, we got a lot more information. 124 00:11:05.180 --> 00:11:08.189 dhollis: and it was really helpful, particularly 125 00:11:08.250 --> 00:11:30.249 dhollis: sometimes the interview that wasn't easy. How did you get that interview perspective about what's happening to coloration? A lot of the causes of prohibition and other. 126 00:11:33.530 --> 00:11:45.709 dhollis: And the process was we we emailed him about and he wrote back to Sudan and he they talked about it. He finally interviewed him. We 127 00:11:46.284 --> 00:11:48.829 dhollis: a lot of answers to a lot of my questions. 128 00:11:49.100 --> 00:11:58.089 dhollis: Okay, does it happen to marine biologists here from Boston University? How many marine biologists. Did you have to email to? You? Got a response? 5 129 00:11:58.550 --> 00:11:59.589 dhollis: wasn't good. 130 00:12:00.030 --> 00:12:03.230 dhollis: you were afraid. But maybe all of you did 5. And how many of the group. 131 00:12:05.490 --> 00:12:07.949 dhollis: I see. That's pretty fine emails 132 00:12:08.200 --> 00:12:14.200 dhollis: he like said like about 20 back Neli. And then levy Copper is the only one to respond. 133 00:12:16.910 --> 00:12:39.779 Scott Jamieson: I really admire the perseverance, and I think it's so cool that we're able to connect with some of these experts outside of school. But sometimes you're right. Sometimes it doesn't just take one email. Sometimes we really have to have that resilience and keep trying. And it pays off when we can kinda make those connections and help deepen our learning by connecting to people who are working in this field. 134 00:12:40.770 --> 00:12:58.429 Scott Jamieson: Why is this type of learning so important like thinking about this as students? Why is it so important to all of you to have the opportunity to design your own learning and connect that to something that you care about. 135 00:13:01.640 --> 00:13:03.460 dhollis: I think because 136 00:13:04.022 --> 00:13:08.280 dhollis: it's important that we care about problems, because 137 00:13:08.290 --> 00:13:17.300 dhollis: in the future we're gonna be the adults, and we're gonna be as standard as a future decoration that is taking care of the world. 138 00:13:17.320 --> 00:13:20.810 dhollis: And so we have to have awareness of a lot of wealth 139 00:13:22.880 --> 00:13:31.939 dhollis: and like it should like. It's really important to start young. So that you realize like that there are a lot of 140 00:13:32.357 --> 00:14:01.779 dhollis: problems going on the world. So like when you grow up, you can see what you can do to have. You can even start now like you could probably do more when you're a bit like older something and like realizing. Now raising awareness. As I said, since we're the future generation, and we're the ones that would have to solve all these problems started to learn about it. So you could like, know? 141 00:14:02.350 --> 00:14:11.710 dhollis: I think that it's really important, because I've heard a lot of adults telling me, you should learn about this. You're the future generation. You will be able 142 00:14:11.910 --> 00:14:17.969 dhollis: and like a lot of pain. And yeah, plus Dsm, in the future generation we have. 143 00:14:18.040 --> 00:14:22.930 dhollis: we? If we learn about now, we'll be ready for oh, ready to consult. 144 00:14:24.340 --> 00:14:26.249 dhollis: Yeah, I really think that 145 00:14:26.480 --> 00:14:32.629 dhollis: studying it now will really help us raise an air awareness when we're older, and like 146 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:38.679 dhollis: to really be able to understand it. Now, as we're still in a young age, I think it'll really 147 00:14:39.020 --> 00:14:41.769 dhollis: help our society when we grow up. 148 00:14:50.530 --> 00:14:52.830 Scott Jamieson: Gentleman in the back anything you'd like to share. 149 00:14:53.930 --> 00:14:56.370 dhollis: You can remind us what the question was. 150 00:14:56.370 --> 00:14:57.390 Scott Jamieson: Of course 151 00:14:57.750 --> 00:15:01.930 Scott Jamieson: I was gonna ask. I was asking for you as students. 152 00:15:02.100 --> 00:15:10.250 Scott Jamieson: Why is it important to have these opportunities to design your own learning, and connect it to something that you care about. 153 00:15:14.100 --> 00:15:22.329 dhollis: It's very important for once again, like everyone else, to learn this at a young age. So you can. So you can help in the future. And maybe 154 00:15:22.370 --> 00:15:24.680 dhollis: maybe in just a few years. 155 00:15:25.290 --> 00:15:26.389 dhollis: it's really 156 00:15:26.520 --> 00:15:34.200 dhollis: because properties are very beautiful and important to an ocean ecosystem. And we would 157 00:15:34.290 --> 00:15:37.379 dhollis: want other people to look at them, and I know 158 00:15:38.480 --> 00:15:45.980 dhollis: and help protect them. Corey's are very important to make for the system, and. 159 00:15:48.060 --> 00:16:07.960 Scott Jamieson: Absolutely, we're investigating some really important topics here. And the more we become aware of that, the more we can think about how we're our actions and how we might inspire others have a positive impact and sort of work towards our aspirational future. The future that we wanna live in that's more sustainable and just, and. 160 00:16:08.090 --> 00:16:12.859 Scott Jamieson: you know, full of joy and happiness, I think it's something we want is something worth working towards. 161 00:16:12.930 --> 00:16:19.830 Scott Jamieson: I wanted to go back a little bit and talk a little bit about some of the people in the community you were able to connect with. 162 00:16:20.270 --> 00:16:23.229 Scott Jamieson: Why is it important to 163 00:16:23.400 --> 00:16:29.579 Scott Jamieson: find people outside of our school to connect with. For a project like this. 164 00:16:31.990 --> 00:16:39.510 dhollis: Because so we wanted to like Ray. We wanted to like, have some action to 165 00:16:40.271 --> 00:16:46.770 dhollis: to our inquiries. So connecting with people outside who have already started 166 00:16:47.425 --> 00:17:00.910 dhollis: solving a few of these problems connecting to them and like helping raise words for them and doing stuff like that could also help in the future. 167 00:17:01.700 --> 00:17:02.560 dhollis: Colleagues 168 00:17:02.660 --> 00:17:14.530 dhollis: like as you did like you asked like, what? So what if like locals do we talk to? May and I went to Gbe, which is for green bio energy. 169 00:17:14.579 --> 00:17:26.970 dhollis: and they make like a cold breakfast for for the locals, who who like they have to use charcoal which isn't good for them, and they sign up for their environment. 170 00:17:27.010 --> 00:17:31.190 dhollis: And so Jamie's trying to fix the problem. 171 00:17:31.250 --> 00:17:38.050 dhollis: And so, yeah, those is some of the Logos that we talk to our people that work at Gb. 172 00:17:38.280 --> 00:17:43.270 dhollis: I think it's really important to like. Try and see if you can connect with the other people. 173 00:17:43.840 --> 00:17:45.230 dhollis: I went to 174 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:47.290 dhollis: like us. And I went to everyone. 175 00:17:47.630 --> 00:17:51.489 dhollis: And I also want to inform Africa. And I learned. 176 00:17:51.670 --> 00:17:54.180 dhollis: yeah, the floods. And 177 00:17:54.380 --> 00:18:01.990 dhollis: that's an air pollution, or even close to each other. But some of the reasons why they happen actually are really similar. 178 00:18:02.110 --> 00:18:03.450 dhollis: and I wouldn't 179 00:18:03.990 --> 00:18:05.620 dhollis: never actually bought that. 180 00:18:06.210 --> 00:18:09.219 dhollis: and if I didn't connect to her I would never. 181 00:18:11.420 --> 00:18:26.940 dhollis: So what I did is with I reached out to a few animal experts, and, as I said before, Miss Miss Jenny Talbord is the is the one I interview. She is a professional 182 00:18:27.180 --> 00:18:31.879 dhollis: yeah, like big cats like lions, sizes, cheetahs. 183 00:18:32.320 --> 00:18:33.550 dhollis: and I learned. 184 00:18:34.170 --> 00:18:37.779 dhollis: and we decided to partner up to erase awareness. 185 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:41.670 dhollis: for, like the environment, and to try to help save 186 00:18:41.820 --> 00:18:43.790 dhollis: all the endangered animals. 187 00:18:46.790 --> 00:18:47.640 dhollis: and more 188 00:18:48.520 --> 00:18:49.530 dhollis: so 189 00:18:50.290 --> 00:18:54.639 dhollis: I think it's important to connect with experts outside of school, because 190 00:18:55.660 --> 00:18:58.100 dhollis: because people in our school 191 00:19:00.690 --> 00:19:09.290 dhollis: so because they can help just make a couple of things that we don't know about yet, and to include us research. 192 00:19:10.820 --> 00:19:11.780 Scott Jamieson: Absolutely 193 00:19:12.890 --> 00:19:13.790 Scott Jamieson: sir. Go ahead! 194 00:19:15.680 --> 00:19:16.650 dhollis: It's okay. 195 00:19:20.220 --> 00:19:20.780 Scott Jamieson: To be. 196 00:19:20.780 --> 00:19:22.100 dhollis: They're helping 5 197 00:19:23.250 --> 00:19:23.780 dhollis: and. 198 00:19:23.780 --> 00:19:26.879 Scott Jamieson: Sorry. Can you say that again, Fin? Can I get you to start the bit again for me? 199 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:27.609 dhollis: I have. 200 00:19:28.000 --> 00:19:33.839 dhollis: Is there help! We widened our like research like it's a more of a 201 00:19:34.520 --> 00:19:36.490 dhollis: concerning about the like. 202 00:19:40.760 --> 00:19:43.970 dhollis: like ensuring the full response. 203 00:19:44.730 --> 00:19:46.860 dhollis: like the pros and cons of 204 00:19:58.371 --> 00:20:07.209 dhollis: it's I mean, better to work with that, because we get like these little bit things again. Those are like 205 00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:10.240 dhollis: pay to go. Since there's graduation. 206 00:20:11.520 --> 00:20:16.339 dhollis: You said that it's difficult. So besides the incident, okay. 207 00:20:17.620 --> 00:20:27.780 dhollis: it helps with like better learning, because the Internet might have false information which will trick us into thinking something when it would be wrong. 208 00:20:28.210 --> 00:20:31.109 dhollis: so that you want to be better. She doesn't like 209 00:20:31.300 --> 00:20:34.630 dhollis: change as experts outside of school. 210 00:20:36.010 --> 00:21:01.420 Scott Jamieson: There's definitely some advantages of getting some primary source data. And yeah, sometimes it's challenging. We're looking at our secondary secondary sources to kind of think about reliability there. And we can use kind of our critical media literacy skills to kind of determine whether we're getting good sources of information. But when we can talk to some experts and really understand how we might make a meaningful impact. I think that's really powerful. 211 00:21:01.430 --> 00:21:24.039 Scott Jamieson: And these are big issues like, we gotta. We wanna understand that we're not in this alone. There's other people who are doing some really cool work out there. So I like how some of you are talking about raising awareness or shining a spotlight on some of the really cool work and positive things that give us some hope and give us some good news about things that are happening in our community. 212 00:21:25.190 --> 00:21:40.030 Scott Jamieson: Speaking of this being a big issue, they were tackling. What were some of the strategies that you used to help break down that problem into kind of manageable chunks, and think about 213 00:21:40.080 --> 00:21:50.669 Scott Jamieson: how we can address the root cause of this problem rather than just addressing the symptoms or some tools used? And how are they effective in helping you design your action. 214 00:21:55.170 --> 00:22:08.280 dhollis: One of the ways that we broke it down was we didn't research everything at the same time. And so we were getting all the information on one day, so we got it over time. So it gave us more time to think 215 00:22:08.410 --> 00:22:11.539 dhollis: what action would help the most. 216 00:22:11.780 --> 00:22:17.769 dhollis: and what what what would be the most reasonable to do and what would help the most 217 00:22:18.780 --> 00:22:40.159 dhollis: also to help us plan our action. We did a problem. We did problem trees. So we did 2 big ones for Gbe and re technical hope trees for Gbe and reform Africa to show how they how their 218 00:22:40.720 --> 00:22:41.230 dhollis: okay? 219 00:22:41.630 --> 00:22:43.199 dhollis: And it's in college. 220 00:22:44.465 --> 00:22:49.239 dhollis: Yeah, that they're that. They're early 221 00:22:49.730 --> 00:22:55.160 dhollis: organization connects to all of our different inquiries. 222 00:22:55.510 --> 00:23:01.491 dhollis: Yeah. And like, like, Leah said, we we connected with Gbe to really 223 00:23:02.010 --> 00:23:03.889 dhollis: help break down the problem 224 00:23:04.800 --> 00:23:07.180 dhollis: and reform Africa. So 225 00:23:07.330 --> 00:23:22.169 dhollis: we just so when we decided to partner with them, we partnered with them, cause they are non non governmental organizations, and everything they make is environment friendly, like reform. Africa makes these bands. 226 00:23:22.220 --> 00:23:26.520 dhollis: these shopping bags out of plastic evolution in the lakes 227 00:23:27.320 --> 00:23:37.719 dhollis: and gbe green bio energy makes environment friendly briquettes. So like coal is made out of trees right? 228 00:23:37.800 --> 00:23:39.760 dhollis: So that's one of the 229 00:23:40.220 --> 00:23:44.740 dhollis: having Charles made added cheese. Right? So that's one of the one of the reasons 230 00:23:44.950 --> 00:23:49.240 dhollis: workstation is happening because people need to use charcoal, because as for them. They think it's like 231 00:23:49.360 --> 00:23:53.100 dhollis: no other options, but briquettes are 232 00:23:53.410 --> 00:23:54.110 dhollis: 100 233 00:23:57.160 --> 00:23:59.860 dhollis: which has made that robbery 234 00:24:01.100 --> 00:24:04.429 dhollis: water heisen from agricultural ways. 235 00:24:04.540 --> 00:24:19.780 dhollis: and so many people don't know that that's another option and a safer and a safer option. Better option for the environment. And yeah. 236 00:24:20.660 --> 00:24:22.919 dhollis: the hotel's really managed to realize 237 00:24:23.040 --> 00:24:26.300 dhollis: now, all of our priorities really connected. 238 00:24:26.780 --> 00:24:50.709 dhollis: and how? And it really helps and I think everybody and I think everybody, especially after usually started during the what should we do for action during at the end of this? And then, and I think everybody really liked how form Africa, you know, before Africa, like, say, like, took a plastic match from 239 00:24:50.830 --> 00:24:57.800 dhollis: the ground, whichever burned or just left there for to upgrade with us. And how do you export horizon 240 00:24:58.550 --> 00:25:03.649 dhollis: that? And I think everybody really enjoyed hearing about it, and that's 241 00:25:03.770 --> 00:25:04.570 dhollis: embryonite 242 00:25:06.260 --> 00:25:08.980 dhollis: for us. It was difficult to find those people. 243 00:25:09.110 --> 00:25:10.500 dhollis: and for things 244 00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:12.820 dhollis: Vanessa. 245 00:25:17.230 --> 00:25:19.079 dhollis: difficult to find 246 00:25:19.150 --> 00:25:20.269 dhollis: like our so. 247 00:25:20.270 --> 00:25:22.990 Scott Jamieson: Alright. And I'm gonna get you to start again in just a sec. Okay. 248 00:25:25.090 --> 00:25:29.060 Scott Jamieson: can you guys come just a little closer for me in the in the back. 249 00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:30.280 dhollis: Right? 250 00:25:32.324 --> 00:25:33.829 dhollis: Right? You need to think about the. 251 00:25:33.830 --> 00:25:36.030 Scott Jamieson: You guys are good. I've been to France. 252 00:25:37.610 --> 00:25:40.898 dhollis: Yeah, you guys come close to the one. 253 00:25:41.940 --> 00:25:43.209 dhollis: I don't even know what is. 254 00:25:43.540 --> 00:25:45.490 Scott Jamieson: Alright! Break anything when you're ready. 255 00:25:49.590 --> 00:25:51.463 dhollis: We're ready. 256 00:25:53.418 --> 00:25:57.331 dhollis: They make reusable fashion 257 00:25:58.510 --> 00:26:00.510 dhollis: exactly until the 258 00:26:02.130 --> 00:26:02.810 dhollis: I'm 259 00:26:03.110 --> 00:26:14.329 dhollis: for us. It was difficult to find. Like a source of for our action. It was difficult for us to do stuff because we're in a land rock country, and it doesn't have all these. 260 00:26:14.520 --> 00:26:24.499 dhollis: So it's really difficult to fill their format, since they had something to do with us when our inquiry 261 00:26:24.770 --> 00:26:28.140 dhollis: it just popped it from my first from 262 00:26:28.626 --> 00:26:42.029 dhollis: plastic. They think plastic bags from like that people leave, for in the sewage that they applaud us, and they like them, and it makes you make them very use usable plastic bags. 263 00:26:42.870 --> 00:26:51.115 dhollis: Scott. I think I might have to move patience because it's sad to rain, and this the classes coming in. So I might just find a bit of a classification. 264 00:26:51.390 --> 00:26:56.609 Scott Jamieson: Alright. Yeah, I'll pause the recording and we can jump back in. I just get about 2 more questions. 265 00:27:01.400 --> 00:27:03.969 Scott Jamieson: So after all this work. 266 00:27:04.090 --> 00:27:12.860 Scott Jamieson: all your inquiry work, and meeting with community partners and designing your actions and raising awareness. 267 00:27:12.900 --> 00:27:21.100 Scott Jamieson: How did it all feel to finally get to share all this work out at exhibition with your audience. 268 00:27:22.220 --> 00:27:39.779 dhollis: Well, it felt good because we had done like so much work, and it was not an easy process, and like sharing it all kind of felt good, but was also felt good that we had 269 00:27:39.970 --> 00:27:49.950 dhollis: finished it, and we had like accomplish what we wanted to, and we had just like done so much, and it felt good to share it and like finish it 270 00:27:50.450 --> 00:27:59.509 dhollis: for me like like you said it felt really good to know that all that hard work and pressure of not feeling like you're not gonna finish it in time. 271 00:27:59.650 --> 00:28:02.800 dhollis: ended up you making an amazing project 272 00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:06.433 dhollis: and the sharing it with both of people and 273 00:28:07.070 --> 00:28:14.354 dhollis: and share and sharing all these problems are worldwide. It felt like really awesome because 274 00:28:15.528 --> 00:28:21.590 dhollis: we we had, like all that hard work has actually made some people aware of what's going on in the world. 275 00:28:22.342 --> 00:28:34.350 dhollis: For me it felt good, but I was also nervous because we had done all that work. But what if we messed stuff like every time? So then you did all that work? And then you did like a horrible project. 276 00:28:34.490 --> 00:28:45.509 dhollis: So like, like, say, like, so you did all that work. But then, what if you messed up really badly? And everybody noticed. Then you basically did all that work for nothing. 277 00:28:45.890 --> 00:28:48.760 dhollis: Yeah, I had a little bit of that one, too. 278 00:28:49.670 --> 00:29:09.880 dhollis: So for me and Finn, it felt very good to finish, because, like everyone else, said, after all that hard work done, it felt very relieving to finish, and made no mistakes, even though it was a little bit hard to present. It still felt good finishing, and we did accomplish our goal. 279 00:29:10.840 --> 00:29:25.759 Scott Jamieson: And that's a big accomplishment. We did a lot of work leading up to that, and I'm sure it was just a really good feeling. And even if it's not perfect, I think we're doing some really cool work here. That's gonna make a difference. And that sort of leads me to my next question. 280 00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:38.790 Scott Jamieson: what would you say to other students who are listening to this? And maybe they're feeling a little bit overwhelmed by some of these big issues, and they think you know, nothing I could do could really make a difference. 281 00:29:38.830 --> 00:29:40.580 Scott Jamieson: What could you say 282 00:29:40.760 --> 00:29:43.409 Scott Jamieson: to these students about 283 00:29:43.500 --> 00:29:47.559 Scott Jamieson: the impact they might be able to have through their actions. 284 00:29:49.414 --> 00:29:55.410 dhollis: I would say that if they were stressed I'd say, don't think about it too much. 285 00:29:55.450 --> 00:30:04.930 dhollis: and just work hard enough, and get it, get it done so you can. You can relax a little more. 286 00:30:05.110 --> 00:30:24.290 dhollis: So yeah. And I would say that all their hard work would pay off, and then maybe wouldn't have to worry that much because after it's all done, it wouldn't seem like that. But a big of a of a problem anymore. And once you start once you start doing it, it's not. Gonna it's not really gonna be like as. 287 00:30:24.290 --> 00:30:40.390 Scott Jamieson: Can I pause you there, Finn? I'm just gonna clarify my question. I'm thinking about the impact, not necessarily getting our work done for exhibition. But thinking about the impact we can have to our actions in our community like that kind of positive change that we're working towards. 288 00:30:40.570 --> 00:30:43.070 Scott Jamieson: So I just wanna clarify my question just a little bit. 289 00:30:43.900 --> 00:30:45.070 Scott Jamieson: Ray can go ahead 290 00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:46.630 Scott Jamieson: orphan me 291 00:30:47.230 --> 00:30:48.459 Scott Jamieson: up to you guys. 292 00:30:49.477 --> 00:30:55.652 dhollis: Okay, your first video, can I go? 293 00:30:57.240 --> 00:30:59.130 dhollis: I'd say that like 294 00:30:59.230 --> 00:31:07.749 dhollis: it would have, no matter what you do, even if you make a really small change. It will. Some. Someday it will seem like a really big change. 295 00:31:08.300 --> 00:31:10.100 dhollis: And also 296 00:31:10.614 --> 00:31:38.319 dhollis: like, it's okay, like, you will have help on the way, and like it's like the small like, she said. The smallest thing can make the biggest difference. And like we did. You could also do like a joint action, but like the action isn't really stressful, neither is the pipx, if you like. Manage your time well and like. Don't be worried, cause you will have help along the way, but 297 00:31:38.320 --> 00:31:41.950 dhollis: there are like things to guide you through it. 298 00:31:42.690 --> 00:31:53.356 dhollis: And I'm like, just if you feel a bit overwhelmed at first like, just know it's gonna be. It's gonna be fine in the end. And you're gonna feel amazing cause of 299 00:31:53.930 --> 00:32:03.180 dhollis: what it's about like he means like it's only about it'll be okay, like, what if you feel overwhelmed about a problem? 300 00:32:03.770 --> 00:32:04.600 dhollis: M, 301 00:32:05.010 --> 00:32:08.650 dhollis: well, don't worry, because in the end it's gonna be 302 00:32:08.830 --> 00:32:13.612 dhollis: fine, and you're gonna feel great about what you've accomplished. I think. 303 00:32:17.997 --> 00:32:37.240 dhollis: I would say no one can do all of it alone, but every every person doing one thing helps and so just do what you can to help fix the problem. But just know you're not gonna get it all done here alone. 304 00:32:38.980 --> 00:32:42.800 Scott Jamieson: I think that sounds amazing. And I'm just gonna or sorry. Gentlemen, do you wanna jump in. 305 00:32:43.755 --> 00:32:53.809 dhollis: And then and also maybe no matter like, like, how slow you're getting through. All the steps you're taking is is, gonna get you close to your to your goal. 306 00:32:55.100 --> 00:32:56.710 dhollis: You should not be worried. 307 00:32:56.770 --> 00:32:57.900 dhollis: My escape. 308 00:32:58.590 --> 00:33:24.079 Scott Jamieson: I love what I'm hearing. I think it's so empowering and inspiring to listen to all of you and the work you've been doing, and I think you're absolutely right, something that I really believe, too. It comes back to what Lila said. If all of us kind of work towards some of these small positive changes. Imagine the impact we could have, and also imagine how we might be able to inspire others 309 00:33:24.080 --> 00:33:34.980 Scott Jamieson: to join us and connect with us with what we care about and join us in. Our action is so empowering. And this is really how change starts. 310 00:33:34.980 --> 00:34:03.199 Scott Jamieson: So I'm so impressed with all the work you did. I'm so inspired, and I just wanna say thank you to all of you, to Leah and Lila and Maya Ariel, Regan and Finn. It's been so great to meet you and listen to some of your stories about your learning through these projects, how you're able to connect with community partners and design actions together collaboratively to have that positive impact in your community. 311 00:34:03.260 --> 00:34:10.729 Scott Jamieson: I am really grateful that all of you were able to take some time to chat with me today on the Podcast and thank you for being such fabulous guests. 312 00:34:13.375 --> 00:34:15.824 dhollis: Thank you. 313 00:34:17.050 --> 00:34:21.500 Scott Jamieson: Alright, I got one more thing for you guys to do alright. I'm gonna I'm gonna get Mr. Dan to count you in. 314 00:34:21.530 --> 00:34:29.320 Scott Jamieson: and I'm gonna get you guys to say together for me, thank you for listening to the empathy to impact podcasts. 315 00:34:29.610 --> 00:34:40.200 Scott Jamieson: Alright. So let me say, one more time. Thank you for listening to the empathy to impact. Podcast so Mr. Dan's gonna count you in, we're gonna try to see it altogether. We cool. 316 00:34:44.045 --> 00:34:50.715 dhollis: To impact. 317 00:34:55.060 --> 00:35:01.490 Scott Jamieson: In one take. You guys were fantastic, alright, that was awesome. I'm gonna turn off our recording here. 318 00:35:03.410 --> 00:35:04.130 dhollis: Then.