Stacie Wood on what Proverbs 31 actually describes, and why it was never the 1950s housewife. Culture has two boxes for a woman, tradwife or girlboss, and God's design doesn't fit in either one.
In Episode 2 of Stronger, Stacie Wood sits down with Andy Wood and Ariel Amaro the week she preached God's design for women, and they go where a Sunday message can't: why Saddleback got kicked out of the SBC and what the church actually believes about women and leadership, what Stacie says when someone asks if she's a co-pastor, and what Proverbs 31 does to the 1950s housewife.
Also in here: why men are now outpacing women in church attendance and what Stacie thinks is behind it, why a wife is a crown and not a competitor, what Stacie does when a room full of women starts roasting their husbands, the four years the Woods lived in a small apartment on one income, what would have happened if Andy had been the stay-at-home parent, and Mondays with Mom.
Single, married, raising daughters, or the man trying to make room for the women around him, this one is for you.
ONE THING TO DO THIS WEEK
If you're a woman: name one place where you've been living inside a box culture built instead of the design God gave you, and take one step out of it. If you're a man: name one woman around you whose gift you can make room for this week, and do it. Then send this to someone who's in the middle of this conversation.
CHAPTERS
0:00 Coming up
0:47 Before we jump in
1:28 Week two: Stronger Women
2:58 Respond to Scripture, not culture: Jesus and women
6:40 The correction, and the overcorrection
8:03 Men are outpacing women in church
9:08 Why women are leaving
11:00 Headship, helper, and kicked out of the SBC twice
13:32 Who's defining the boxes?
16:19 "Are you a co-pastor?"
17:31 How Stacie started teaching
22:58 A wife is a crown
25:06 When women roast their husbands
28:00 The batting cage
29:52 Working outside the home
32:00 Tradwife, girlboss, and Proverbs 31
35:24 Your kids are being raised by somebody
38:05 Childcare costs and one income in the Bay Area
40:49 "If we'd done stay-at-home dad..."
43:19 Hope for the next generation: Titus 2
44:33 Mondays with Mom
49:45 Stacie's mom and dad
54:51 To the woman who was wounded
57:00 Next week: Stronger Marriages
SCRIPTURE IN THIS EPISODE
Mark 5:25-34 · John 4 · Proverbs 12:4 · Proverbs 14:1 · Proverbs 31:10-31 · Titus 2:3-5 · Psalm 40:2
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What is Stronger with Andy Wood?
Welcome to Stronger with Andy Wood. Life is heavy, and you were never meant to carry it on your own. Every week, Andy Wood, lead pastor of Saddleback Church, hosts honest conversations about building a stronger faith, family, and community. Each episode picks up where the weekend message leaves off, because there's always more to say than a weekend allows, and gets practical about living it out in your home and relationships. Real questions, real stories, and one next step you can take this week.
New episodes every Monday, recorded at Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California. Wherever you're listening from, this is for you too.