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<v Speaker 1>Well today, here's a story of Paul's conversion.

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<v Speaker 2>Again.

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<v Speaker 3>I know he said it twice, but he's gonna do

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<v Speaker 3>it a third time.

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<v Speaker 4>So Paul now is giving you defense before Agrippa. Yep,

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<v Speaker 4>and this is a big one. So he's Chris and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Jeff and where the babba guys. Okay, Chris, this

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<v Speaker 4>is a good one today.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>I like this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's so we're supposed to we're giving the

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<v Speaker 1>segment that we're supposed to do a draft pizza draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's my here's my question. Like we've all been to

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<v Speaker 1>places you and I that that we've tasted specialty pieces.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, they're not like Little Caesar's or Dominos.

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<v Speaker 1>So my question is do we do we branch off

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<v Speaker 1>and say like Raised Pizza on Ninth Street, New York,

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<v Speaker 1>or do we just stick with you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what are the rules because it does

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<v Speaker 4>a Raised, the one that gave us this desiree.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's pick our favorite pizza places. You rock papers

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<v Speaker 1>and scissors to see who gets the first and go

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<v Speaker 1>into each have five pizza.

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<v Speaker 4>Places, so there's no rules. It's your favorite pizza. We're

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<v Speaker 4>just drafting our favorite pizzas sounds great, you're ready.

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<v Speaker 2>We're trying to bring.

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<v Speaker 4>People over to our side too, So we're trying to

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<v Speaker 4>do like we want people to go. Yeah, Jeff has

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<v Speaker 4>the best pizza draft oh.

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<v Speaker 3>In that case, In that case, we got to stick

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<v Speaker 3>with the famous.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you just draft whatever you want to draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, yeah, all right, let's do our favorite sitters

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<v Speaker 1>read shoot?

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<v Speaker 2>Ready, one, two, three?

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<v Speaker 3>Shoot?

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<v Speaker 2>So I did scissors and.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh so here is my first choice pizza, which is

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<v Speaker 1>Raised Pizza in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>Really yes, okay, yeah, yeah, that's it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, my very favorite pizza in the world, and

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<v Speaker 4>I've driven five hours just to go get it one time.

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<v Speaker 4>One way is Connie's Pizza in Chicago. It's a deep

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<v Speaker 4>dish Chicago style. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, fine, my favorite pizza.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So this isn't going to be very popular, but I

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<v Speaker 1>did a I did a deep dish pizza in California

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<v Speaker 1>that was Chicago style.

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<v Speaker 2>Chicago style in California, I know, come on, man.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I don't even know the name of the place.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't draft that.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't draft a place you don't know the name of.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, well, then here it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually going to say that my next choice besides

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<v Speaker 1>Ray's Pizza, is going to be Benitos Banitos Banito's Pizza. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I like Benito's better than any other brand.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I think in Michigan, so Michigan is a is

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<v Speaker 4>a hotbed for pizza, right, yeah, I think in Michigan,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to draft Buddies.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, Buddies Pizza, Buddies Red.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's the original eight square or you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>eight sided pizza or whatever. Script Yeah, okay, that's the

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<v Speaker 2>Detroit pizza.

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<v Speaker 1>So all right, Well, since you know what, since we're

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<v Speaker 1>going out of state. In my hometown, there is a

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<v Speaker 1>pizza place called Westgate Pizza and it is extremely famous,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll choose that for my third.

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<v Speaker 2>It's extremely famous in Youngstown, Ohio. Yes, yeah, because none

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<v Speaker 2>of your listeners have ever heard it except your mom.

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<v Speaker 3>Mom, Well she's listening.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I think I'm gonna stick with us. So

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<v Speaker 4>the one that I pick, like if I just have okay, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>let's have pizza delivered at home. Yeah, it's one of

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<v Speaker 4>two that I have delivered, and I think I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to pick Jets.

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say, Jets is my fourth.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get jets, Let's get Jets.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was gonna say Jets.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I will then have to say that I like.

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<v Speaker 3>This is tough, Jess was it for me? Believe it

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<v Speaker 3>or not.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's gonna sound crazy, but since Domino's is

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<v Speaker 1>as re done.

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<v Speaker 4>Their formula, it's it's pretty stromptious.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Dominos.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah. For for fast delivery, Yeah, that's a good one. Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>The other one that I like, believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 4>is I like hungry howays because I like all the

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<v Speaker 4>stuff you can put on the crust. Yeah yeah, yeah

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<v Speaker 4>right right, so getting that extra garlic butter and yeah

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<v Speaker 4>yeah yeah yeah that's good. You know what, that's the throwaway. Hey,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to think about it. Disorder pizza, it's right, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And and for the for the last one, I'll go nuanced.

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<v Speaker 1>How about have you ever had the pizza at the Alibi?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's a really pizza on Rochester Road.

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<v Speaker 4>Rochester Road for our listeners, if you're ever in Michigan,

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<v Speaker 4>go to the Alibi.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's good pizza.

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<v Speaker 3>That's good pizza.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I think the one that I'm going to do,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's all the people in McComb County know, this

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<v Speaker 4>one is green Lantern. Well yeah, Greenland, Green Landers's Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's similar to Alibi.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, so that's cool. So that would be it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what what do you love on pizza? What do you get?

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<v Speaker 1>So I believe it or not, I'm a I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who gets like all the veggie toppings but not

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<v Speaker 1>olives because those are from Satan? What?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I would say I get like mushrooms.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you're really You're not Italian? You don't

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<v Speaker 2>like olives? Yeah, I know what you fraud. We just

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<v Speaker 2>we just exposed.

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<v Speaker 4>I like, I like, you know, like a meatballs. Isn't

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<v Speaker 4>the only the only requirement for being Italian you have

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<v Speaker 4>You're required. You're required to love meatballs, You're required to

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<v Speaker 4>love good cheese, and you're required to love olives.

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<v Speaker 2>It's required. Yeah, understand, we're gonna revoke your your Let

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<v Speaker 2>me get.

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<v Speaker 3>My answer out.

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<v Speaker 1>Mushrooms, onions, peppers, and slices of tomato.

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<v Speaker 2>But you don't do the meats a lot?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I do you just asked me what was my favorite?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so my dad orders everything, so we we all

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<v Speaker 4>the way to the anchovies, we weed it all and

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<v Speaker 4>so I love the everything pizza.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are always good.

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<v Speaker 4>But if I'm just ordered for myself, it's always going

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<v Speaker 4>to be a meat lover's okay, And I like I

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<v Speaker 4>believe or not, I really like thin crust pizza too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah I did. Yeah, in fact, Benito's Thin Crust with

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<v Speaker 3>the topics they gave you. Yeah, is my wife and

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<v Speaker 3>I is go.

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<v Speaker 2>To okay, and then I uh, I'm very happy with

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<v Speaker 2>just a good pepperoni. Yeah. Yeah. So anyways, all right, well, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>that was very important stuff. I know people, Yes, everybody

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<v Speaker 2>turned it off and went and ordered pizzas, but it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Six minutes of life wasted for love of you're never

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<v Speaker 1>getting that back.

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna joke and.

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<v Speaker 1>Say Di Giorno's, but I didn't want people to be

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<v Speaker 1>like typeing in boom here.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's not.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to pick up at the end of chapter

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<v Speaker 1>number twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Five and read to the end of twenty read.

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<v Speaker 3>It to the end of twenty six.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, let's get to it, man, because this is an

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<v Speaker 4>interesting story. It says in verse twenty three of chapter

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<v Speaker 4>twenty five of the Book of Acts. So the next day,

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<v Speaker 4>Agrippa and Bernice arrived at the auditorium with great pomp,

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<v Speaker 4>accompanied by military, all officers and prominent men of the city.

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<v Speaker 4>Fastest order that Paul be brought in. Then Festus said,

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<v Speaker 4>King Agrippa, and all who are here, this is the

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<v Speaker 4>man whose death is demanded by all the Jews, both

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<v Speaker 4>here and in Jerusalem. But in my opinion, he's done

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<v Speaker 4>nothing deserving a death. However, since he appealed his case

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<v Speaker 4>to the Emperor, I've decided to send him to Rome.

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<v Speaker 4>But what shall I write the Emperor? For there is

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<v Speaker 4>no clear charge against him. So I've brought him before

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<v Speaker 4>all of you, and especially you, King Agrippa, so that

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<v Speaker 4>after we examine him, I might have something to write,

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<v Speaker 4>for it makes no sense to send a prisoner to

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<v Speaker 4>the Emperor without specifying the charges against him. Then Agrippa

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<v Speaker 4>said to Paul, you may speak in your defense. So Paul,

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<v Speaker 4>gesturing with his hand, started his defense. I am fortunate,

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<v Speaker 4>King Agrippa, that you are the one hearing my defense

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<v Speaker 4>today against all these accusations made by the Jewish leaders.

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<v Speaker 4>For I know you are an expert on all Jewish

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<v Speaker 4>customs and controversies. Now please listen to me patiently, as

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<v Speaker 4>the Jewish leaders are well aware, I was given a

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<v Speaker 4>thorough Jurish training from my earliest childhood among my own people,

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<v Speaker 4>and in Jerusalem, if they would admit it, they know

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<v Speaker 4>that I have been a member of the Pharisees, the

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<v Speaker 4>strictest sector of our religion. Now I'm on trial because

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<v Speaker 4>of my hope and the fulfillment of God's promise made

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<v Speaker 4>to our ancestors.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, that is.

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<v Speaker 4>Why the twelve tribes of Israels zealously worshiped God night

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<v Speaker 4>and day, and they share the same hope I have. Yet,

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<v Speaker 4>your majesty, they accused me for having this hope. Why

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<v Speaker 4>does it seem incredible to any of you that God

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<v Speaker 4>can raise the dead. I used to believe that I

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<v Speaker 4>ought to do everything I could to oppose the very

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<v Speaker 4>name of Jesus and Nazaren. Indeed, I did just that

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<v Speaker 4>in Jerusalem, authorized by the leading priests. I caused many

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<v Speaker 4>believers there to be sent to prison, and I cast

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<v Speaker 4>my vote against them when they were condemned to death.

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<v Speaker 4>Many times I had them punished in the synagogues to

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<v Speaker 4>get them to curse Jesus. I was so violently opposed

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<v Speaker 4>to them that I even chased them down in foreign cities.

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<v Speaker 4>And one day I was on such a mission in Damascus,

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<v Speaker 4>armed with the authority and commission of the leading priests.

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<v Speaker 4>About noon, Your Majesty, as I was on the road,

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<v Speaker 4>a light from having brighter than the sun shone down

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<v Speaker 4>on me and my companions. We all fell down, and

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<v Speaker 4>I heard a voice saying to me in Aramaic, Saul, Saul,

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<v Speaker 4>why are you person secuting me? It's useless for you

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<v Speaker 4>to fight against my will. Who are you, Lord, I asked,

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<v Speaker 4>and Lord replied, I am Jesus, the one you're persecuting.

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<v Speaker 4>Now get to your feet, for I have appeared to

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<v Speaker 4>you to appoint you as my servant and witness. You

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<v Speaker 4>are to tell the world what you have seen and

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<v Speaker 4>what I will show you in the future, and I

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<v Speaker 4>will rescue you from both your own people and the gentiles. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sending you to the gentiles to open their eyes

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<v Speaker 4>so they may turn from darkness to light and from

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<v Speaker 4>the power of Satan to God. And then they will

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<v Speaker 4>received forgiveness for their sins and be given a place

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<v Speaker 4>among God's people who are set apart by faith in me,

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<v Speaker 4>and so King Agrippa, I obeyed that vision from heaven.

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<v Speaker 4>I preached first to those in Damascus, and then in Jerusalem,

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<v Speaker 4>throughout all Judea, also to the gentiles, that all must

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<v Speaker 4>they have changed by the good things they do. Some

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<v Speaker 4>Jews arrested me in the temple for preaching this, and

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<v Speaker 4>light to Jews and Gentiles alike. Suddenly Festus shouted, Paul,

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<v Speaker 4>you were insane. Too much study has made you crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>But Paul replied, I'm not insane, most excellent Festus. What

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<v Speaker 4>done in a corner King Agrippa, do you believe the prophets?

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<v Speaker 4>Paul replied, whether quickly or not, I pray to God

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<v Speaker 4>that both you and everyone here in this auditorium might

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<v Speaker 4>become the same as I am, except for these chains.

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<v Speaker 4>Then then the King, the Governor, Bernice, and all the

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<v Speaker 4>others stood and left. As they went out, they talked

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<v Speaker 4>it over and agreed, this man hasn't done anything to

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<v Speaker 4>deserve death or imprisonment. And Agrippa said to Festus he

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, he said to Festus, he could have been set

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<v Speaker 4>Some some historians would say Paul kind of overplayed his

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<v Speaker 4>hand by that, right, Yeah, for sure. But I think

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<v Speaker 4>Paul was always going to Rome, right. Jesus had told

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<v Speaker 4>him you're going to Rome, right, So he's going to Rome.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and he saw he saw the way that was

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<v Speaker 3>the path right right? So yeah. So and by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>we ultimately know that this is going to end in

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>So he never really gets released, he never gets back,

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which is years by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so this is like fifty eight AD.

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<v Speaker 4>so fifty nine. I think this, This would be fifty

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<v Speaker 4>nine because he began with Felix and fifty seven, so

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<v Speaker 2>That's like ten years nine yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Ten years of being in prison. So you know, if if.

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<v Speaker 1>You think you have problems right right, you think you've

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<v Speaker 1>been inconvenienced for God's mission, you think that God has

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<v Speaker 1>asked too much of you. And by the way, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying that he hasn't. I don't know your situation.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know you know your story, but Paul certainly

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<v Speaker 4>Well, God lets us know these things for our own benefit.

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<v Speaker 4>And so what God is saying is, hey, your circumstances

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<v Speaker 4>might be bad. They were bad for Paul too. But

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<v Speaker 4>Paul made the best of them. I think that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>And if I can tell you my story, my story's bad,

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<v Speaker 4>but God made the best of it. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's the same for all of us. If we will

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<v Speaker 4>trust him, God will take the bad story make it good.

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<v Speaker 4>Paul wrote about that in Romes chapter eight. He can

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<v Speaker 4>make all things work together for good to those who

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<v Speaker 4>if you understand that your life is according to God's purpose,

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<v Speaker 4>then God has a plan for you. God wants to

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<v Speaker 4>use you. Then it doesn't matter the circumstances you're in.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying they're not bad. I'm just saying those

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<v Speaker 4>don't define you. You can decide to let them define you,

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<v Speaker 4>but God doesn't view them as defining you. They might

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<v Speaker 4>make you stronger and better, but they don't find you.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyways, there's Paul. He's in jail again.

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<v Speaker 4>Now he's standing in front of h He's standing in

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<v Speaker 4>front of the two of the biggest power players in

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<v Speaker 4>his region. Right, I mean he was in front of governors,

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<v Speaker 4>now he's in front of kings. This is pretty amazing

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<v Speaker 4>that he's able to share the gospel. How else who

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<v Speaker 4>else would ever have the opportunity to share the gospel

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<v Speaker 4>King Agrippa.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and and is this the verse that's translated into yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that almost.

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<v Speaker 2>Persuaded me, almost persuaded me, Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Because we both grew up reading the King James version.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And and so then in this one it's translated just

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<v Speaker 1>slightly different.

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<v Speaker 3>Resais do you think you can persuade me so quickly?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>And the other translation for it would be a little

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<v Speaker 4>more in your arguments, would make me a Christian. But

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<v Speaker 4>clearly he's kind of mocking Paul, right, He's so there's

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<v Speaker 4>there's maybe a little bit of wow, that's compelling message,

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<v Speaker 4>but I'm not in it. No, thank you, Right, that's

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<v Speaker 4>what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've preached messages on King Agrippa almost becoming a Christian.

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<v Speaker 1>And but you know, it's it's so cool to see

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<v Speaker 1>again Paul, you know, give his testimony, and it just

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<v Speaker 1>solidifies that, you know, telling your story is a really

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<v Speaker 1>powerful tool. And just in case we're wondering, Paul tells

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<v Speaker 1>his story. Paul's conversion story happens in Acts chapter nine,

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<v Speaker 1>then also at Act chapter twenty two, and then twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six and the full version is in nine. Twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>is a summary, and then twenty six seems to be smaller, right,

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<v Speaker 1>not as many verses, but yet the exact same details.

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<v Speaker 4>Although in this one he's clearly presenting the gospel yeh,

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<v Speaker 4>So he minimizes history. I think that this is the

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<v Speaker 4>best presentation that we see for Paul. Paul talks a

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<v Speaker 3>Because he makes this history with Jesus story right.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, right, So he's taking his story and he's saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>I was a radical. I was, you know, even a

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<v Speaker 4>are accusing me now. And they can't argue with it.

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<v Speaker 4>But the reality is I had this encounter with Jesus

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<v Speaker 4>that transform my life and now. And then he spends

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<v Speaker 4>all this time saying, it's all you know, so you

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<v Speaker 4>can receive forgiveness of your sins and be given a

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<v Speaker 2>And then he comes back to it.

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<v Speaker 4>Multiple times that he's driving at home that salvation is

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<v Speaker 4>by faith, right, that it's available to you too. He

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<v Speaker 4>reminds them several times it's not just for me as

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<v Speaker 4>a Jew or my Jewish brothers, it's for gentiles too,

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<v Speaker 4>just like you. He's very respectful, and he talks about

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<v Speaker 2>Here it is right.

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<v Speaker 4>He's doing all the things necessary to not drive a wedge,

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<v Speaker 4>but instead to open the gates and say this is

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<v Speaker 4>available to you too, and you can have the same

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<v Speaker 4>you can place your faith and trust in Jesus Christ too,

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<v Speaker 4>And he's really driving home faith for everybody, salvation for everybody,

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<v Speaker 4>forgiveness for everybody, and in this one. So it's less

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<v Speaker 4>of him, more of Jesus, and then more of a

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that stands out to me is

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<v Speaker 1>when Agrippa did say that famous line, you think you

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<v Speaker 3>Quickly, Paul says, whether quickly or not? And here it comes.

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<v Speaker 1>I pray to God that both you and everyone here

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<v Speaker 1>in this audience might become the same as I am,

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<v Speaker 1>except for these chains. And what I was really saying

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<v Speaker 1>is he's saying, you know, as I stand up here

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<v Speaker 1>all get to the place where you realize that Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>Lord as well so you know, it just goes into

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<v Speaker 1>it speaks into Paul's who he is, Paul's life, his mission,

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<v Speaker 1>what he's called to.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's who he is. And think about it. Everywhere

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<v Speaker 3>Paul has ever ever has been.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's at Act seventeen, He's at Mars Hill,

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<v Speaker 1>and he just can't sit there and wait for his friends.

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<v Speaker 1>He feels completely compelled to go tell people about Jesus.

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<v Speaker 3>He is so driven by his mission.

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<v Speaker 1>God has called him to preach the gospel and bring

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<v Speaker 1>it to those who are not of the Jewish faith,

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<v Speaker 1>who are lost and wandering and don't know Him. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I try to think of like people in our church,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, you and I were pastors, and we

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<v Speaker 1>them are not. But it's the people who get it

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<v Speaker 1>that I love the most. Right, So every time that

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<v Speaker 1>circle and we'll pray, and usually I feel this and

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<v Speaker 1>I share this in those moments, or sometimes we'll do

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<v Speaker 1>people who are on mission with you. And I always

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<v Speaker 1>say the same thing. And here's what I say. I say,

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<v Speaker 1>you are my favorite people. And it's the truth, because

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<v Speaker 1>anybody who has that kind of desire, yeah, and who says, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>don't care you know how many chairs need to be

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<v Speaker 1>to do everything I can so that everybody here can

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<v Speaker 1>hear about Jesus and come to know Jesus. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I always say you're my favorite group of people. And

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<v Speaker 1>here's where I honestly believe. And this is my last point.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna say we're getting old, yeah, but we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna be older than we are, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>When we look back, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think for me, it may not be for everybody, but

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<v Speaker 1>for me, like, yeah, sure, building a building and opening

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<v Speaker 1>Know, creating great moments of you know, like Freedom Hill,

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred people show up. That's a great event. I

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<v Speaker 1>volunteers who get it every day when they get up

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<v Speaker 1>and they they're on mission with you, and every day

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<v Speaker 1>we're able to look at everything, you know, we look

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<v Speaker 1>at the stats, you know, and we say, look at

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<v Speaker 1>how many people showed up, and look how many people

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<v Speaker 1>trust in Christ, and look how many people got connected

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<v Speaker 1>and if taken the next step, and we sort of

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<v Speaker 1>measure the movement of Christ, all of it, every bit

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<v Speaker 1>of it is with people who have that kind of resolve.

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<v Speaker 3>Yea, and I just and I think they're my favorite people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, I agree one hundred percent with you.

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<v Speaker 4>So then another thought in here as we kind of

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<v Speaker 4>start coming to the wrap up, is Paul is not.

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<v Speaker 2>Just arguing his emotion. He's appealing to the fat right.

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<v Speaker 4>He says, literally what verse twenty six he tells Herod,

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<v Speaker 4>these things didn't happen in a corner? Right, Right, while

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<v Speaker 4>Paul's talking, this is what fifty eight fifty nine a D.

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<v Speaker 4>People were still alive that were there when Jesus died,

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<v Speaker 4>when he resurrected Jesus, there were people that were still

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<v Speaker 4>alive that had seen Jesus raise Lazarus from the dead. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>these things weren't done in a corner, were they?

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<v Speaker 2>Agrippa?

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<v Speaker 4>Right, he's being gentle and kind, most excellent King Agrippa.

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<v Speaker 4>But he's saying these things didn't happen in a corner.

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<v Speaker 4>And one of the things I love is, this is

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<v Speaker 4>not just an idea, This is not just an ideology,

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<v Speaker 4>This is not.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a philosophy.

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<v Speaker 4>That's all the world has to work with. They only

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<v Speaker 4>have their ideologies and their opinions and their philosophies. But

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<v Speaker 4>what we have is we have a real story rooted

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<v Speaker 4>in history, with actual people and actual events that Herod

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<v Speaker 4>did not argue against didn't argue against the resurrection. So

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<v Speaker 4>while Festus goes, I don't know, this is something about

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<v Speaker 4>their religion, some guy that he claims resurrected from the

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<v Speaker 4>dead name Jesus, he turns to Herod and goes, you

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<v Speaker 4>know these things are true, and Herod doesn't go, no,

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<v Speaker 4>those are all a lie, right, right, So then when

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<v Speaker 4>Herod goes, you've almost persuaded me. I think that was

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<v Speaker 4>more of a sarcastic blowoff than it was a actual thing.

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<v Speaker 4>But Herod is not arguing that they did not happen, right,

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<v Speaker 4>And what's great about it is when we read a

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<v Speaker 4>guy like Luke who's so detailed in his history and

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<v Speaker 4>he's dealing with real people in real history, it should

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<v Speaker 4>strengthen our faith to know that there's so much more

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<v Speaker 4>substance to what we believe than having it just be

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<v Speaker 4>some interesting philosophical angle that we're trying to take on

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<v Speaker 4>how to live our life. Right, that this is real,

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<v Speaker 4>rooted in real history, with real people, with a real

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<v Speaker 4>savior who really did rise from the dead, and even

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<v Speaker 4>the most powerful king at that time in that region,

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<v Speaker 4>went that's true. That he didn't argue, that's great, that's

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<v Speaker 4>that's a really cool thing. We should walk our days,

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<v Speaker 4>walk through our day today with confidence that what we

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<v Speaker 4>believe is true.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that is a great place to end. And hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see you next time on the Bible guys. H

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