1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,400 Unknown: Welcome back to circling the drain. Johnny B, 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,560 here, over there. Jay Harper, 3 00:00:04,620 --> 00:00:10,440 Oh, I hear my name. You okay? Johnny B, good. Jay, oh, man, 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:14,220 man, I haven't seen you in such a long time. It's been like two 5 00:00:14,220 --> 00:00:14,520 days. 6 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:19,200 It has been two days where y'all been. Yeah, a 7 00:00:19,500 --> 00:00:22,940 little behind the curtain stuff. I mean, normally, when we record 8 00:00:22,940 --> 00:00:26,120 these, there's a good elapsed amount of time, but man, we just 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:27,200 like we're knocking them out. 10 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,900 Yeah, we are when we and we just want to be around each other 11 00:00:29,900 --> 00:00:30,260 more. 12 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:32,660 Well, speak for yourself. Jim, 13 00:00:34,460 --> 00:00:34,640 how 14 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:35,060 are you? 15 00:00:36,500 --> 00:00:36,800 Well, 16 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:37,640 thanks, Patrick. 17 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:37,760 I'm 18 00:00:39,260 --> 00:00:40,240 going hatless today. 19 00:00:40,540 --> 00:00:41,080 Yeah, no, 20 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:42,220 yeah, you are hatless, 21 00:00:42,220 --> 00:00:43,720 yeah, showing the co op. 22 00:00:43,780 --> 00:00:46,420 Yeah, that's right, you're a striking man. Looks like you 23 00:00:47,740 --> 00:00:49,900 could have come from California, 24 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:50,980 maybe, like 25 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,040 all these people that are invading the sea area. 26 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:55,480 I came from LA east, 27 00:00:55,780 --> 00:00:56,200 which is 28 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:57,400 essentially Las Vegas. 29 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,780 Well, you know, I kind of came from LA Laura, Alabama. 30 00:01:02,820 --> 00:01:04,560 I came from LA, Louisiana, 31 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,600 that's right. So all of us, 32 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,840 yeah, yeah, I never really thought about 33 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:14,580 but have you guys? I mean, have you experienced living around 34 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,460 our new transplants that have come in from? 35 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:22,340 Well, there certainly seems to be a bigger influx of them here 36 00:01:22,340 --> 00:01:25,880 in the last, I don't know, five, six years, for a variety of 37 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:30,320 reasons. But, you know, I first moved here in 1985 from LA, 38 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:31,460 Louisiana. 39 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:32,000 Yeah, 40 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,980 and the the migration was, was happening then, 41 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,380 yeah, it was, but it's more so now. 42 00:01:39,500 --> 00:01:43,480 Oh, by all means, I think, for a variety of reasons, back when I 43 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,680 first started noticing it, back in the you know, well, mid 80s, 44 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:52,000 when I arrived and you got here before I did, but it was 45 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,780 primarily the main reason was because I was working MCA 46 00:01:55,780 --> 00:02:00,360 Records, so I was kind of in the middle of the of Being aware of 47 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:05,280 what was happening, music wise and musician wise, and session 48 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:06,900 players and that kind of thing, 49 00:02:06,900 --> 00:02:08,520 people like David Hungate, who 50 00:02:08,580 --> 00:02:13,800 exactly, yeah, correct, correct. You know, he's an old toto guy 51 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,600 with Toto, but because the music was changing so much 52 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:18,960 yes 53 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:24,500 out west in LA, and had really started to, you know, those guys 54 00:02:24,500 --> 00:02:27,620 were aging out of the music scene. 55 00:02:27,620 --> 00:02:28,340 That's true 56 00:02:28,460 --> 00:02:29,060 in LA, 57 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:30,260 that's very 58 00:02:30,260 --> 00:02:36,500 and, you know, things had gone so technical and electric and in 59 00:02:36,500 --> 00:02:42,880 such that, you know, the great instrumentalist Bill Cuomo, whom 60 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,040 we have, yeah, I mean, he's a prime example. 61 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:45,820 Yes, he is. But 62 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,660 bill's not your typical Californian. He know, he's a 63 00:02:49,660 --> 00:02:50,320 good guy. 64 00:02:50,380 --> 00:02:54,220 He is. Well, I mean, there are a lot of people that have come 65 00:02:54,220 --> 00:02:55,720 from California that I like, 66 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,720 Oh, of course. I was just joking there. But there 67 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,700 are some. There are some I've got, I've got neighbors. Now 68 00:03:03,420 --> 00:03:07,980 they built this human in fact, what we used to have where we 69 00:03:07,980 --> 00:03:10,980 live, it was just mostly farmland, like right across the 70 00:03:10,980 --> 00:03:16,020 street from us, was this huge farm, you know, just pasture had 71 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,860 cattle all over it, you know, an old barn that was barely hanging 72 00:03:19,860 --> 00:03:20,540 on. And that's 73 00:03:20,540 --> 00:03:23,420 probably one of the reasons you moved out there, is you like you 74 00:03:23,420 --> 00:03:24,620 like that tranquility. 75 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,440 Oh, we did. We loved it. And then all of a sudden, in the 76 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:33,260 past, I'd say, four or five years, all of a sudden, they 77 00:03:33,260 --> 00:03:35,360 first, they knocked down all these trees. There were, like, 78 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:40,100 hundreds of trees just right by this farmland that kind of 79 00:03:40,100 --> 00:03:43,180 covered it up. Well, they burnt, they knocked them down, burned 80 00:03:43,180 --> 00:03:46,960 them all. And of course, then they started building all these 81 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,200 human I mean, they're not just building homes. They're building 82 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:54,460 humongous, two and a half, $3 million homes everywhere, 83 00:03:54,460 --> 00:03:55,720 mansion, yeah. 84 00:03:55,780 --> 00:04:02,400 McMansions, how close are you to the grove? To the grove? I'm I'm 85 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,280 on the poor side of college grove. Well, not anymore. I used 86 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,240 to be the poor side. Now we're just the poor and amongst the 87 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:14,640 rich, but we're probably, we're just over the hill from from the 88 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:19,500 grove where they play golf and all that. Yeah, but yeah, it's 89 00:04:19,500 --> 00:04:24,020 beautiful area. But this new guy that's moved in, and I did some 90 00:04:24,020 --> 00:04:25,280 background on this guy, 91 00:04:25,700 --> 00:04:29,120 I Googled, oh, wow, you can do that. 92 00:04:29,180 --> 00:04:32,780 Oh, unbelievably, you can just Google somebody's name and, 93 00:04:32,840 --> 00:04:33,260 boom, 94 00:04:33,260 --> 00:04:35,300 what is this? Of which you speak 95 00:04:36,260 --> 00:04:37,580 the Google, yeah. 96 00:04:40,460 --> 00:04:43,480 So you were able to, I mean, this person popped up on Google 97 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:44,080 and, well, 98 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,120 you know, I looked up who bought the house. 99 00:04:46,420 --> 00:04:50,320 Yeah, you can do that, man. You can go in and look at property, 100 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:51,460 everything, everything. 101 00:04:51,460 --> 00:04:55,000 So I looked this dude up. And, you know, he came from 102 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,920 California, of course, and he was a big, big Republican out. 103 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,800 There he he was involved in a lawsuit against Hillary Clinton. 104 00:05:05,460 --> 00:05:10,260 He also was very instrumental in getting Donald Trump on the 105 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,200 ballot and getting get people behind him. So 106 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,320 initially you would think, well, I might dig this. Yeah, you 107 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:17,340 might be an okay guy. 108 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,160 But you know, I've nicknamed these people the Duttons, 109 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:26,360 because they act like they own the entire neighborhood. He has 110 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:31,820 these two dogs, a German Shepherd and a husky, and they 111 00:05:31,820 --> 00:05:36,080 roam. He just doesn't. He doesn't walk them like most 112 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,620 people do on leashes. He just sets them loose and they're all 113 00:05:39,620 --> 00:05:40,520 over your yard. Well, 114 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,000 those poor animals are gonna get hit. They're gonna get run over. 115 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,400 Well, they're gonna either get run over or, you know, coyotes 116 00:05:45,460 --> 00:05:48,400 are abundant out there. Says, and they're gonna meet those, 117 00:05:48,460 --> 00:05:53,080 yeah, but, but what really gets on your nerves that the dogs are 118 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:58,300 a nuisance, and then he has a dune buggy that he cranks up and 119 00:05:58,300 --> 00:05:58,660 he, 120 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,100 you mean, like an ATV that 121 00:06:00,099 --> 00:06:00,659 he's side by 122 00:06:00,719 --> 00:06:04,679 side. Yeah, it's like, it's like a little pipe buggy, and it's 123 00:06:04,679 --> 00:06:05,159 loud. 124 00:06:05,220 --> 00:06:08,400 I was gonna say it's probably Gas, gas powered, so it's gonna 125 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:08,700 be loud, 126 00:06:08,700 --> 00:06:12,480 very loud. And he also, I mean, he'll, he'll go anywhere on it, 127 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,240 including other people's property, looking for these 128 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:15,840 dogs. 129 00:06:15,900 --> 00:06:17,460 Yeah, that ain't very smart in 130 00:06:17,460 --> 00:06:20,340 these parts. Ain't smart in these parts. And old John Dutton 131 00:06:20,340 --> 00:06:25,400 up there, but that's what's getting on my and I've talked to 132 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:29,720 animal control about the dog. No, we'll talk to him. Yeah, 133 00:06:30,380 --> 00:06:33,080 yeah. Williamson County, yeah, they're not gonna talk to 134 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:37,880 anybody that's got two now, talk to me if I had two dogs. 135 00:06:38,420 --> 00:06:41,920 Yes, Mr. Boseman, we need to have a yes. We do what's 136 00:06:42,340 --> 00:06:42,640 your 137 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,020 home worth before 138 00:06:44,020 --> 00:06:46,000 we have this conversation. 139 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,780 But that's, that's the only part of and I've heard this from 140 00:06:49,780 --> 00:06:53,440 other people too, that they're noticing a lot of times, that 141 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,520 people that have moved here from California kind of just expect 142 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,440 us to adhere to their habits. 143 00:07:01,740 --> 00:07:05,040 I mean, is there, like, this sense of entitlement that you're 144 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:06,000 picking up on? 145 00:07:06,060 --> 00:07:09,180 Well, a little bit. I mean, I would, because when we moved out 146 00:07:09,180 --> 00:07:12,840 there, we were very low key. We didn't try to enforce our 147 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,720 lifestyle on everybody out there, you know, and I tried to 148 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,680 stay out of everybody's business. But this cat man, he 149 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,060 is. It's like he moved in and all of a sudden, well, this 150 00:07:23,060 --> 00:07:26,840 whole place is mine. Now I'm king of college grove. 151 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,180 Is it something? Maybe he just, well, this is the way they do 152 00:07:29,180 --> 00:07:30,860 things out here. Maybe that isn't. 153 00:07:30,860 --> 00:07:36,920 It could be what? It could be an assumption which is false of oh, 154 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,860 this is out in the country. I can let my dog roam free, right? 155 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:40,840 True? Yeah, 156 00:07:40,900 --> 00:07:43,600 you should never let your dogs roam free. There's, there's a 157 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:44,200 problem. 158 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:45,760 He just doesn't know better, ripping 159 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,360 well. I mean, if he had, you know, 45 acres, 160 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:49,660 yeah, 161 00:07:49,780 --> 00:07:52,120 yeah, then you could probably let your dogs run loose 162 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,680 and they're your own acres. 163 00:07:53,679 --> 00:07:57,039 Yeah, they're yours. They're not, they're not neighbors, 164 00:07:57,039 --> 00:07:57,579 right? But, 165 00:07:57,580 --> 00:08:00,840 yeah, that's one thing I've noticed, is that some of these 166 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,220 transplants are kind of acting like, you know, 167 00:08:05,580 --> 00:08:10,380 well, we're not the only area, the only state, excuse me, that 168 00:08:10,380 --> 00:08:14,340 has been, well, it 169 00:08:14,340 --> 00:08:14,520 was 170 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,400 gonna, I was gonna say a victim, but I maybe don't know if that's 171 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,440 the right word, a victim of these transplants. I mean, you 172 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:25,340 know, Texas, Florida, South Carolina, a lot of these types 173 00:08:25,340 --> 00:08:29,720 of states are seeing Oklahoma, the influx of these folks, 174 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,660 especially the no income tax states, 175 00:08:32,780 --> 00:08:33,260 yes, 176 00:08:33,260 --> 00:08:36,260 like a Tennessee and a Texas and a Florida. 177 00:08:36,560 --> 00:08:39,440 Well, they're escaping too. I mean, I can understand anybody 178 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,520 wanting to leave California, beautiful state, but, oh, 179 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:43,840 I know it is gorgeous, 180 00:08:44,020 --> 00:08:47,500 being run by absolutely insane leaders, 181 00:08:47,500 --> 00:08:51,040 yeah, and it's, it's been happening for a long, long time. 182 00:08:51,460 --> 00:08:55,660 You know, half my family from California, my mom was from 183 00:08:55,660 --> 00:09:00,220 California. And you know, even though she's been gone now 11 184 00:09:00,220 --> 00:09:05,460 years, even way back when she used to lament over how 185 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:09,540 heartbroken she was about what has happened to just her 186 00:09:09,540 --> 00:09:13,320 hometown. Yeah, which was Monterey, California? 187 00:09:13,380 --> 00:09:13,980 Oh, yeah. 188 00:09:13,980 --> 00:09:18,060 You know, beautiful old fish fishing village at one time. You 189 00:09:18,060 --> 00:09:23,720 know, overwhelmingly Italian. My mom was 24 karat Italian, 190 00:09:23,780 --> 00:09:24,260 yeah, 191 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:30,620 and it was just this warm, loving community where 192 00:09:30,620 --> 00:09:35,000 everybody, you know, the cliche, everybody knew everybody, 193 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:35,420 yes, 194 00:09:35,420 --> 00:09:38,600 well, that was pretty true, because everybody was related to 195 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:39,380 everybody, 196 00:09:39,380 --> 00:09:39,860 yeah, 197 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,240 you know, everybody had 10 kids, and you know, it was just as we 198 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,340 always say, was a different time. Yes, 199 00:09:45,340 --> 00:09:45,700 it was. 200 00:09:45,700 --> 00:09:50,380 But, you know, she lamented over how the, you know, the 201 00:09:50,380 --> 00:09:54,040 developers had moved in and had knocked down all you knows, like 202 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:54,820 music wrote, 203 00:09:54,940 --> 00:09:55,420 oh, 204 00:09:55,420 --> 00:09:59,500 knocked down all those nice old homes and put in the, you know, 205 00:09:59,500 --> 00:10:04,020 the seven. Elevens and the dry cleaners, you know, well, and 206 00:10:04,020 --> 00:10:05,160 these condos, 207 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:11,760 the condos that look like they came out of East Berlin, yeah, 208 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,700 it's been an ongoing process out there. And then the, you know, 209 00:10:14,700 --> 00:10:17,640 just the political climate. I mean, every day we're hearing 210 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:22,760 about these multi gazillionaires that are ditching California. Oh 211 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:28,100 yeah. And many of them headed to Florida because it's, you know, 212 00:10:28,100 --> 00:10:29,840 so beautiful. They want to be on the water. 213 00:10:29,900 --> 00:10:30,680 Oh yeah. 214 00:10:30,860 --> 00:10:33,260 But then they realize it's Florida, and they come up here, 215 00:10:33,260 --> 00:10:33,560 yeah? 216 00:10:36,500 --> 00:10:38,840 Well, and I know, you know, I lived in Charleston, South 217 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,740 Carolina for a number of years, which is a great area, and it's 218 00:10:41,740 --> 00:10:43,540 suffering the same type of thing. 219 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:43,960 Yeah, 220 00:10:44,020 --> 00:10:46,420 it was a small kind of 221 00:10:46,420 --> 00:10:47,980 Californians and New Yorkers. 222 00:10:48,580 --> 00:10:52,480 It's both, but you're really right. A lot of New Yorkers that 223 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,200 would go down to Florida for winter, you know, the snowbirds. 224 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:56,260 I 225 00:10:56,260 --> 00:10:57,640 want to live there. But 226 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:03,360 halfway to Florida, they would stop in Charleston or, you know, 227 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,700 somewhere along the Carolina coast, 228 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:06,240 sure. 229 00:11:06,420 --> 00:11:10,140 And then it was like, why are we going to Florida? Let's just 230 00:11:10,140 --> 00:11:13,560 stay here. It's cheaper, it's not as crowded, so on and so 231 00:11:13,560 --> 00:11:18,360 forth. But now it ain't that way. It's, you know, it's 232 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,760 expensive and it's crowded and, you know? Well, I've even found 233 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:23,240 changes, 234 00:11:23,300 --> 00:11:26,600 yeah, I've even found out that, you know, my hometown of 235 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:31,100 Wichita, Kansas, there's a small town that's east of there, where 236 00:11:31,100 --> 00:11:36,260 I went to school Andover, and somebody was telling me that, 237 00:11:36,260 --> 00:11:40,600 and a few years ago, I went to went back there, and I couldn't 238 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:45,220 recognize Andover. There were so many businesses, so many it used 239 00:11:45,220 --> 00:11:49,960 to just be a little farming community. And now I'm being 240 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,440 told that the majority of people that live in Andover are the 241 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:54,460 very wealthy. 242 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:55,780 Oh, really, 243 00:11:55,780 --> 00:11:59,740 I dare say, they really, they found they love, they love the 244 00:11:59,740 --> 00:12:02,760 planes out there. Where's Dorothy? I dare say it's 245 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,680 like Montana. I mean, yes, 246 00:12:04,680 --> 00:12:05,220 Montana, 247 00:12:05,220 --> 00:12:11,280 huge draw for a lot of wealthy what's Coeur d'Alene in Idaho, 248 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:11,640 Idaho, 249 00:12:11,700 --> 00:12:14,340 and there's an area, and I'm drawing a blank on the area, 250 00:12:14,340 --> 00:12:20,720 because I produced a concert in in Idaho, and it was in October, 251 00:12:20,780 --> 00:12:26,180 I remember that, and it snowed. And, gosh, I'll think of the 252 00:12:26,180 --> 00:12:30,560 name of it, but anyway, it is a community where a lot of the LA 253 00:12:30,680 --> 00:12:36,800 elite have homes and and, gosh, that was 40 years ago when I was 254 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,780 there. Well, maybe about 3035, years ago, I guess. But you know 255 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,920 it was even happening there, so this And granted, though, I 256 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,920 think a lot of that were maybe second and third homes for some 257 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,860 of these people. But now you've got people that are just 258 00:12:50,860 --> 00:12:53,380 vacating California all together. 259 00:12:53,680 --> 00:12:53,920 Yeah. I 260 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,740 mean even in Zuckerberg, yeah. I mean 261 00:12:56,860 --> 00:12:57,340 Florida, 262 00:12:57,340 --> 00:13:01,920 yeah, you know he's Starbucks, yeah, from up in Seattle. And 263 00:13:02,700 --> 00:13:03,540 yeah, well, there 264 00:13:03,540 --> 00:13:06,840 was a huge migration out to California. What in the 70s, 265 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,480 80s? Yes, you remember that? Yeah, I do. Because my father, 266 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,700 my family, entertained the notion of moving out there. I 267 00:13:11,700 --> 00:13:13,320 almost became a California Wow, 268 00:13:13,680 --> 00:13:16,440 when I was a kid. Why not my father? Yeah, 269 00:13:16,500 --> 00:13:21,320 yeah. There were times when I explored that too, just for when 270 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:25,820 I was a younger guy and single or whatever, about venturing out 271 00:13:25,820 --> 00:13:28,820 that way just to explore the voiceover. 272 00:13:28,939 --> 00:13:29,299 Yeah, 273 00:13:29,300 --> 00:13:33,260 work, and it is still somewhat of a but depending on what you 274 00:13:33,260 --> 00:13:37,280 want to get into, if you're wanting to get into animation 275 00:13:37,340 --> 00:13:41,120 and, you know, movie voiceover kind of stuff, that's still can 276 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,800 hear that that is still the Mecca, because it's so union 277 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:45,640 dominated, 278 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:46,060 yeah, 279 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:53,740 but some of that is starting to branch out. Canada is giving a 280 00:13:53,740 --> 00:13:54,700 lot of that kind of 281 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,220 stuff. All the Marvel movies were made in Georgia, 282 00:13:57,340 --> 00:13:59,020 yeah, Atlanta has 283 00:13:59,140 --> 00:14:00,300 become a big South 284 00:14:00,300 --> 00:14:04,920 Carolina is giving a lot of Louisiana as well. You know, the 285 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,920 lot of these states, they're offering up all these big tax 286 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:08,700 incentives, 287 00:14:08,700 --> 00:14:09,480 exactly, 288 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:14,760 and the union work out in LA, from a movie standpoint, I've 289 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:19,020 got a real close friend, lifelong friend, that I've known 290 00:14:19,140 --> 00:14:23,120 since the seventh grade. He's been fairly successful in the 291 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:27,560 movie biz as a screenwriter and whatnot. And he got out of 292 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:32,420 California because it was just, he just couldn't take it, and he 293 00:14:32,420 --> 00:14:36,260 was starving to death. First of all, because the cost, even 294 00:14:36,260 --> 00:14:37,880 though he was making pretty good money, 295 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,020 oh, that's the thing, 296 00:14:39,020 --> 00:14:43,060 the cost of everything was just driving him out. And again, the 297 00:14:43,060 --> 00:14:47,020 landscape changing. If we ever really want to talk about the 298 00:14:47,020 --> 00:14:50,320 movie landscape and such, I need, we need to have him on the 299 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:55,780 podcast, because he's like up to his eyeballs and all this. David 300 00:14:55,780 --> 00:15:00,480 Dubos is his name, but anyway, but as he had told me. We just 301 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,900 had this conversation, in fact, that the union writers and 302 00:15:03,900 --> 00:15:09,720 whatnot, they are frustrated things are just moving out of 303 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,140 California because the unions are strangling everybody out of 304 00:15:13,140 --> 00:15:15,480 work, and you but you can't work unless you're a part of the 305 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:20,180 Union. But the union membership is frustrated that they have to 306 00:15:20,180 --> 00:15:24,920 join the union to get work. But the work isn't coming like it 307 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,560 used to because of the unions. 308 00:15:27,620 --> 00:15:27,980 Yeah, 309 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:29,840 it's It's insanity. 310 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,780 Yeah, it is insanity. And you know what really makes me sad 311 00:15:32,780 --> 00:15:36,500 about what's happening to us here is that Nashville, to me, 312 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,300 used to be a very unique town. Reason I fell in love with it. 313 00:15:40,780 --> 00:15:44,920 It wasn't too big, but it wasn't too small, either. It was just a 314 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:50,140 perfect medium sized city. It had a very unique vibe about it. 315 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,560 I love the music, and I loved working on Music Row, 316 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,000 the openness of it. 317 00:15:55,000 --> 00:16:01,740 It was at that time. I mean, I watched so many hit songs being 318 00:16:01,740 --> 00:16:05,520 written. I mean, before they were even, you know, dedicated 319 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,940 to vinyl. I'm watching songwriters come but one was 320 00:16:08,940 --> 00:16:13,140 still doing time by George Jones. I saw that being written. 321 00:16:13,740 --> 00:16:18,300 I saw so many hit songs being written, and got to hang out in 322 00:16:18,300 --> 00:16:22,940 in, you know, like publishing, publishing houses, and of 323 00:16:22,940 --> 00:16:26,360 course, they were all in homes. But it was really cool. It was a 324 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:31,700 very cool vibe, and that I just saw that slipping away as time 325 00:16:31,700 --> 00:16:35,900 went on, and it really made me sad, because Nashville had just 326 00:16:35,900 --> 00:16:41,800 this great vibe of, I mean it, I can't describe it. It was just 327 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:47,080 cool. I looked forward to going to work every day because going 328 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:51,460 down to Music Row was so much fun, and it was wild. Everything 329 00:16:51,460 --> 00:16:54,460 started falling apart right around the Telecommunications 330 00:16:54,460 --> 00:16:55,120 Act happening, 331 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:55,300 yeah, 332 00:16:55,300 --> 00:16:56,080 it really did. 333 00:16:56,140 --> 00:16:56,500 It did 334 00:16:56,500 --> 00:16:57,340 96 right? 335 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:57,820 Yeah, 336 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:58,300 yeah. 337 00:16:58,420 --> 00:17:02,220 Well, in fact, Nashville, I saw changing. I actually went down 338 00:17:02,220 --> 00:17:05,160 to Birmingham to work in radio down there, and stayed there for 339 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:12,240 two years and got home sick for Nashville, came back in 84 and 340 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:18,000 just the two years away, I saw a huge change, like you weren't 341 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:22,880 being allowed into like I went to Cedarwood publishing, because 342 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:27,080 I used to hang out there all the time. Well, this time it was, 343 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:31,220 you know, you can't come in, yeah, everything changed. So, so 344 00:17:31,220 --> 00:17:32,660 it really started, 345 00:17:32,660 --> 00:17:36,200 was it when everything got rockified? La Shania, Twain, and 346 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:36,380 that 347 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,340 news before that, I want to say 84 was more around the Oh, 348 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:40,960 really 349 00:17:41,020 --> 00:17:44,980 Yeah, was, wasn't? It was just around the time of Urban Cowboy, 350 00:17:44,980 --> 00:17:46,960 I think, well, urban cowboys, 351 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,400 Urban Cowboy, hit 7980 352 00:17:50,500 --> 00:17:53,620 right? It was after that, that right? 353 00:17:53,620 --> 00:17:58,720 And like, say, I came to Nashville in 85 and there was 354 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,800 still some old Nashville here then, but, yeah, it was the 355 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,100 transition was happening. And it's interesting, you say that 356 00:18:05,100 --> 00:18:09,960 you still saw a huge difference from 77 to, you know, then you 357 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,500 laugh, because you got here in 77 right, then came back and 358 00:18:13,620 --> 00:18:17,640 came back, 8485 in there, and it had already had a massive 359 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,680 change. That's interesting, because for me, it seemed like, 360 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,400 and we, everybody mentions this, and there's truth to it. I mean, 361 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,720 when they built the arena, then the predators came, yes, then 362 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:34,160 the Tennessee Oilers slash Titans came. We just became a 363 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:35,240 different city. 364 00:18:35,360 --> 00:18:36,020 We did, 365 00:18:36,020 --> 00:18:40,220 in many ways, a good way, at least as far as entertainment 366 00:18:40,220 --> 00:18:43,060 and that sort of thing goes, Sure, you know, when, when I 367 00:18:43,060 --> 00:18:47,560 moved here, I was surprised that there really wasn't a nice size 368 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,060 venue for shows. 369 00:18:49,420 --> 00:18:50,500 No, that was the big, 370 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,760 I mean, the opry house at 44,000 or whatever it was, you know, 371 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,000 there at Opryland was kind of like the biggest thing I get. 372 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,260 You know, Murphy. I mean, when Elvis played Nashville. He 373 00:19:01,260 --> 00:19:02,520 played Murfreesboro, 374 00:19:02,580 --> 00:19:03,300 yes, 375 00:19:03,300 --> 00:19:06,000 because the MTS, you said, Murphy center, 376 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:06,600 yeah, 377 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,520 held, you know, a bigger 378 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:09,480 size and people, 379 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:10,800 yeah, spring played 380 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:11,820 bigger size. Crowd. 381 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,400 Was it the big round 382 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:15,300 one now, 383 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,880 auditorium, which, you know, 384 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:18,720 that 385 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,580 place is, it's a dump in our notes, 386 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,980 welcome. Yeah. Back in those days, it wasn't 387 00:19:24,980 --> 00:19:30,380 Yeah, but yeah. But the time the 80s and 90s rolled around, you 388 00:19:30,380 --> 00:19:32,240 know that that place wasn't up to, up 389 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,540 to stand? Well, yeah, they didn't. They didn't improve it 390 00:19:35,540 --> 00:19:36,140 in any way. 391 00:19:36,139 --> 00:19:38,599 Hey, you know it was good enough for the wiggles. When I saw, 392 00:19:38,660 --> 00:19:43,120 yeah, it was, it's good enough for a Harlem Globetrotters. But, 393 00:19:44,260 --> 00:19:48,520 yeah, my wife made an interesting and it turned out to 394 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:53,680 be true. But whenever we had the 2010 flood, she said, this is 395 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,680 when the town's really going to change. You're going to see it. 396 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:01,560 It's going to not be the same place you knew. Before. And she 397 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,620 was right. It seemed like we did change after the flood. 398 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,480 Yeah, I was not here. Then, were 399 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,360 you not here for the big 20 I was in the car. You were lucky. 400 00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:12,660 I, you know, I still was very connected to a lot of people 401 00:20:12,660 --> 00:20:16,260 here. And I heard, you know, I yeah, I know it was, it was 402 00:20:16,260 --> 00:20:16,860 dreadful. 403 00:20:16,980 --> 00:20:20,100 It was dreadful. I remember Joe Lombardi telling me stories. 404 00:20:20,100 --> 00:20:26,720 They had to go. I think they broadcast out of the WSM tower 405 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,660 in Brentwood. Yeah, because, yeah, because everything else, 406 00:20:29,660 --> 00:20:31,700 everything was flooded, yeah, because they were in the opry 407 00:20:31,700 --> 00:20:32,120 area. It 408 00:20:32,120 --> 00:20:35,120 was, well, I remember I couldn't get to because when it was 409 00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:37,340 started happening, I thought, Well, man, I better get to the 410 00:20:37,340 --> 00:20:41,740 station. It was like, everywhere I went, I went crap, I can't go 411 00:20:41,740 --> 00:20:45,580 anywhere. Yep, and it was off. In fact, one person, it was a 412 00:20:46,300 --> 00:20:49,240 kid named John mounts, who was our assistant program director. 413 00:20:49,540 --> 00:20:52,960 He did all the broadcasting and did a great job. He 414 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,000 was a, I mean, that dude was dedicated. 415 00:20:55,060 --> 00:20:59,860 Oh, John mounts, you talk about a great radio guy, and he's 416 00:20:59,860 --> 00:21:05,220 younger than me, and he's one of the young people that I truly 417 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,980 respect, because that we told them when cumulus let John walk 418 00:21:10,980 --> 00:21:13,920 out of the building, we told them how foolish they were 419 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:18,180 being, but you should have paid this guy whatever he wanted, 420 00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:21,980 because he knew How to engineer the place he knew about talk 421 00:21:21,980 --> 00:21:26,660 radio. I mean, this guy knew every inch of radio. I mean, he 422 00:21:26,660 --> 00:21:27,500 was just a 423 00:21:28,220 --> 00:21:30,560 radio person of radio people. 424 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,940 Yeah, exactly. But it's been sad though to watch Nashville 425 00:21:35,780 --> 00:21:38,660 change. I mean, there's some there's some good things that 426 00:21:38,660 --> 00:21:41,560 have happened, but I just hate seeing Nashville become like any 427 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,480 other city? Well, yeah, they're big. And, 428 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,440 you know, so many people don't realize that Nashville attracts 429 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,760 all different types of industry. It isn't just music, no. So you 430 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,120 had a lot of folks that have come from Atlanta for the 431 00:21:55,120 --> 00:21:57,580 insurance business. Insurance is huge here. 432 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,580 Well, in fact, I was told when I first moved here in 77 the 433 00:22:00,580 --> 00:22:04,980 number one and number two businesses were not music. It 434 00:22:04,980 --> 00:22:08,340 was insurance. Was number one. Number two was healthcare, 435 00:22:08,820 --> 00:22:11,520 exactly, yeah. And I think that's still pretty much the 436 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:12,180 case, 437 00:22:12,180 --> 00:22:12,720 yeah. I think 438 00:22:13,380 --> 00:22:18,660 Hartford is known for insurance, not insurance. Yeah, yes, 439 00:22:18,660 --> 00:22:22,460 insurance, yeah. And that was a big town for I mean, they're, 440 00:22:22,460 --> 00:22:25,100 like, known as the insurance capital of the world. I didn't 441 00:22:25,100 --> 00:22:28,340 realize Nashville is known for insurance. Yeah, they're known 442 00:22:28,340 --> 00:22:29,600 for it. It's just 443 00:22:30,860 --> 00:22:34,700 so many of those Atlanta companies and financial services 444 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:40,480 also very big in Nashville. But so many, again, these companies 445 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:47,020 getting out of Atlanta, because it's Atlanta and then and coming 446 00:22:47,020 --> 00:22:51,520 up here and turning Nashville into Atlanta, yeah, turning 447 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:52,780 it into California. 448 00:22:52,780 --> 00:22:55,120 Yeah, I know that's what I was that's what I was gonna say. I 449 00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:58,360 mean, there's certain concerns about that. People escaping 450 00:22:58,360 --> 00:23:02,160 California for what's going on there and bringing that crap 451 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:02,520 here. 452 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,960 Well, it's like when they, you know, when in college Grove we 453 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:11,220 had this, they put up this restaurant, and I forget the 454 00:23:11,220 --> 00:23:17,280 name of it now, I think it was called sip and scoop. But 455 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:22,280 anyway, yeah, these people were from California, and they 456 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,440 brought California food here. 457 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,060 Avocado did, and 458 00:23:26,060 --> 00:23:27,380 it was funny, because 459 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,520 avocado toast, Johnny, would you like? 460 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,980 Would you like some pinkies 461 00:23:33,980 --> 00:23:34,700 aren't raised, 462 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,140 Johnny, I dare say, Johnny, you're not, you're not cultured 463 00:23:39,140 --> 00:23:42,700 enough to be in our establishment. But no they so 464 00:23:42,700 --> 00:23:47,140 they had pizza, and we ordered some. And it was very funny, 465 00:23:47,140 --> 00:23:52,840 this lesbian couple comes in to this little restaurant, and one 466 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,740 of the girls looks at me and goes, What's that pizza like? 467 00:23:56,740 --> 00:24:00,900 And I said, Well, it's nothing like what pizza would be in the 468 00:24:00,900 --> 00:24:05,820 South. I said it's very light. I said it doesn't have a lot of 469 00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:09,960 and she and she, they left after I said that. They said, that's 470 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:15,300 not what we want. We want to eat, but yeah, you can't. And of 471 00:24:15,300 --> 00:24:18,660 course, the restaurant eventually went bust. 472 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:19,380 Go figure. 473 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:19,860 Yeah, 474 00:24:19,919 --> 00:24:20,419 yeah, you 475 00:24:20,419 --> 00:24:23,179 can't bring and that was their whole spiel. We're going to 476 00:24:23,179 --> 00:24:25,699 bring a little California to Middle Tennessee. 477 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,340 That's the thing is that California does have a lock on 478 00:24:28,340 --> 00:24:31,700 really good food. Yeah, their Mexican food is is really good. 479 00:24:31,700 --> 00:24:31,760 The 480 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:32,840 Mexican food is good. 481 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,360 We lived out in Vegas. One of the first experiences when I 482 00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:37,880 realized I was far from home, was going across the street to a 483 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,520 California pizza place for the radio station. I was going to 484 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,980 get some lunch and bring it back to the apartment, where core 485 00:24:42,980 --> 00:24:45,640 apartment where Courtney was unpacking and moving us in and 486 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,120 nesting and all that fun stuff. And first thing was that I 487 00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:52,000 noticed was like, on the menu, it showed all their locations, 488 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,700 and every single one of them was in California, Nevada and 489 00:24:54,700 --> 00:24:57,880 Arizona. And I was like, Holy crap, I am a long way from home 490 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,880 and and. They charge, I think, $26 for a pizza that was roughly 491 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,920 10 inches in diameter. 492 00:25:04,980 --> 00:25:05,760 Oh, wow. And 493 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,820 I was going, What the crap is this? You know? 494 00:25:09,300 --> 00:25:10,080 Oh, I hear you, 495 00:25:10,140 --> 00:25:10,500 yeah. 496 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:16,800 It's like, first time I ever ate up in New York, and you get this 497 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,780 plate. And I don't know what it is about rich folks, but they 498 00:25:20,780 --> 00:25:22,100 just love, you know, they love 499 00:25:22,100 --> 00:25:22,820 small portions. 500 00:25:22,820 --> 00:25:24,560 Yeah, they like, really small. I was like, 501 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:25,640 and paying through the nose for, 502 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:30,380 yeah. I was like, What is this? You know, I'm used to the south 503 00:25:30,380 --> 00:25:30,860 man 504 00:25:30,860 --> 00:25:31,640 copious amounts. 505 00:25:31,700 --> 00:25:32,180 Yeah. 506 00:25:32,180 --> 00:25:33,620 I mean, not seeing us, we're obese. 507 00:25:33,620 --> 00:25:38,120 Yeah, it's reason we have bellies down here. Can't 508 00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:39,620 find the meat. And three New 509 00:25:40,220 --> 00:25:42,460 York, and that's, that's that's the one thing that stood out to 510 00:25:42,460 --> 00:25:45,520 me when I moved here. And again, I'm not a Californian by any 511 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,980 stretch of the imagination. I'm originally from Connecticut. 512 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,860 Don't hold it against me, but I think after 21 years, I am 513 00:25:50,860 --> 00:25:52,660 considered a Tennessean. 514 00:25:53,020 --> 00:25:53,560 You are. 515 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,620 But I moved here in the heyday, I want to say, or at least 516 00:25:56,620 --> 00:26:01,380 probably the lagging days of heyday. Dumb, yeah. We moved 517 00:26:01,380 --> 00:26:05,640 here in, oh, five, and Dave took me. He's like, You got it's a 518 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,580 Nashville thing. It's a meat and three I go, Okay, it's a meat 519 00:26:08,580 --> 00:26:12,960 and three veg. Okay, well, do you have three vegetables? No, 520 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,860 no, no. It's you pick a meat and then you pick, like, potatoes, 521 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,300 corn bread, or, you know, I'm like, well, those aren't 522 00:26:20,300 --> 00:26:22,820 vegetables. Well, they have vegetables too, but they're, 523 00:26:22,820 --> 00:26:27,620 like, completely overcooked, you know, string beans and carrots 524 00:26:27,620 --> 00:26:30,320 and whatever. But, you know, no semblance of nutrition 525 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:31,160 whatsoever in them. 526 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:32,240 No. A lot of bacon in them. 527 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,840 A lot of bacon, you know. And I'm going, I could see the 528 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:40,400 appeal, but dude, I can't, I can't eat here, like, every 529 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,760 other day. There was a guy in the station that ate that one of 530 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:43,420 those every 531 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:44,500 Oh, yeah, 532 00:26:44,500 --> 00:26:45,220 every single day, 533 00:26:45,220 --> 00:26:47,560 yeah. We used to have one like that too. And as the 534 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:48,100 engineer, 535 00:26:48,100 --> 00:26:51,340 he would have grease on his Yeah, on his shirt when he came 536 00:26:51,340 --> 00:26:52,300 to work. Johnny, 537 00:26:52,300 --> 00:26:54,820 do you remember the Sylvan Park restaurant? 538 00:26:54,940 --> 00:26:55,300 Yes, I 539 00:26:55,300 --> 00:26:58,120 that place. I mean, it was fantastic. 540 00:26:58,120 --> 00:26:59,020 Yes, it was, 541 00:26:59,260 --> 00:27:02,700 we used to MCA. We, you know, all pile in one car and head 542 00:27:02,700 --> 00:27:06,000 over there for lunch, pretty regular. And it was also, it was 543 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:12,660 also it was, there were a lot of characters, yes, that that were 544 00:27:12,660 --> 00:27:17,220 there most the wait staff, more than anybody, you know, a bunch 545 00:27:17,220 --> 00:27:18,720 of older ladies, 546 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:19,380 yes, 547 00:27:19,380 --> 00:27:21,260 that had no patience for 548 00:27:21,260 --> 00:27:21,980 anything, 549 00:27:23,060 --> 00:27:26,780 you know. You used to have to literally stand in line, you 550 00:27:26,780 --> 00:27:30,380 know, to get in there, and you would sit with other people at 551 00:27:30,380 --> 00:27:30,980 the table. 552 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,120 Sure, yes, 553 00:27:32,180 --> 00:27:33,620 you know it, yeah, 554 00:27:33,620 --> 00:27:35,120 there's a lot of places like this. 555 00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:38,120 No table was going to have an empty chair, right? They 556 00:27:38,120 --> 00:27:42,760 wouldn't allow that. It's like, you know. So that was very 557 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,880 common where, you know, maybe me and another guy from the 558 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,000 promotion staff, David Haley, God, rest his soul. He and I 559 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,540 would go a lot of times, and we would sit at a foretop with two 560 00:27:52,540 --> 00:27:54,700 other people, two total strangers, almost 561 00:27:54,700 --> 00:27:59,440 like monells up in Germantown. Yeah, yeah. You have to sit with 562 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,220 those family strangers, yeah, yeah, you're sitting with 563 00:28:02,220 --> 00:28:04,740 strange, and you get to meet people that was truly, really 564 00:28:04,740 --> 00:28:05,100 cool. But 565 00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:07,800 I can remember, there was just, there was so much personality 566 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,460 and quirky stuff there. The food was fabulous, and the the 567 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,940 chocolate pie was excellent. Yeah, start 568 00:28:14,940 --> 00:28:15,540 on chocolate 569 00:28:15,540 --> 00:28:20,960 pie. And I can remember, you know, if you people that didn't 570 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,420 know any better, they would stand in the door and leave the 571 00:28:23,420 --> 00:28:25,340 door open while they're waiting in line. 572 00:28:25,340 --> 00:28:25,700 Yes, 573 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:26,780 oh, man, 574 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:27,800 you don't do that. 575 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:34,160 Polishing door. You let me fly so. But you know, the food was 576 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,840 wonderful. But I will say, though, that was one of my 577 00:28:39,020 --> 00:28:43,360 complaints about Nashville when I first got here in the 80s. Was 578 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,800 it there? The the fine dining or the really good restaurants 579 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,060 there? There weren't many. No, 580 00:28:49,060 --> 00:28:49,540 there really 581 00:28:49,540 --> 00:28:52,420 weren't. That is one of the good things that has changed. 582 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:53,020 Yes, there 583 00:28:53,020 --> 00:28:55,180 are a lot of really good restaurants. 584 00:28:55,180 --> 00:28:55,660 Yes, in 585 00:28:55,780 --> 00:28:57,880 Nashville, it's become very cosmopolitan. 586 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,020 Oh, very much, 587 00:28:59,740 --> 00:29:00,180 very 588 00:29:00,180 --> 00:29:01,500 much so and 589 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,380 talking through your 590 00:29:04,380 --> 00:29:09,780 team, you have to look down on people. Oh, my God, I don't want 591 00:29:09,780 --> 00:29:11,520 to hang out with the commoners. 592 00:29:12,300 --> 00:29:13,680 If I have to, I will. 593 00:29:14,460 --> 00:29:17,940 You mean you were in radio, yeah. 594 00:29:18,060 --> 00:29:25,280 Well, it's funny. You say that when I was previous marriage, my 595 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:30,500 wife then was really into, you know, being part of the upper 596 00:29:30,500 --> 00:29:37,580 echelon, so we go to this party. Oh, God, it was awful. It was in 597 00:29:37,580 --> 00:29:42,880 Bell Meade. Oh, it was Belle Meade money. And so there's this 598 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,080 banker, and he was obviously attracted to my wife, because he 599 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:52,060 was really hitting on her, and his overweight wife was dripping 600 00:29:52,060 --> 00:29:56,560 with jewelry. And she said, What do you do for a living to me? 601 00:29:56,740 --> 00:29:59,920 And I said, Well, I'm in radio. She said, Charlie, make. 602 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,440 Alexander. We had dinner with him one time, and he said only 603 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:09,720 poor people work in radio. She actually say that she did what? 604 00:30:10,380 --> 00:30:20,400 Well, you know she get wrong. She's Bullseye old Nashville, 605 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,060 but you know that, but that surprises 606 00:30:23,060 --> 00:30:24,440 a lot of people. Don't you find 607 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:25,220 that? What's that? 608 00:30:25,220 --> 00:30:30,080 People that don't really know the whole world of radio, they 609 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,400 think you're making big money. 610 00:30:31,460 --> 00:30:35,900 My ex wife thought I made big and I said, No. I mean I yeah, I 611 00:30:35,900 --> 00:30:38,240 thought we were going to because I said we're going to be 612 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,100 syndicated. And I think that she saw dollar signs, and of course, 613 00:30:42,100 --> 00:30:46,000 then that didn't happen. And she also saw dollar signs of my 614 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:51,640 father, but that didn't happen either. Went broke, so once that 615 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,620 all went away, that's when the marriage kind of 616 00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:54,940 that's too bad, 617 00:30:54,940 --> 00:31:00,100 but anyway, I actually ended up in a better marriage. You say 618 00:31:00,100 --> 00:31:03,900 she said this to you, and it's like when I'm in situations like 619 00:31:03,900 --> 00:31:07,080 that, okay, this person obviously is trying to go for a 620 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:07,680 dig. 621 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,000 Oh, yeah, 622 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:09,780 yeah, yeah. 623 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:15,000 I think I said something digging as well. Back to her. It may 624 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,520 have been about, you know, I said, Well, you may want to pay 625 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,860 attention to your husband, because he seems to be more 626 00:31:19,860 --> 00:31:21,680 interested in my wife than you. 627 00:31:22,580 --> 00:31:29,000 I would have been like, Oh, are you rich? You know, 628 00:31:29,060 --> 00:31:31,040 Yeah. How'd you make your money? Are you 629 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,940 rich? Because obviously you can't buy class, yeah. So, yeah, 630 00:31:35,060 --> 00:31:37,040 you may have married the money, but you, 631 00:31:37,580 --> 00:31:41,140 you didn't, you didn't inherit the class, that's the thing 632 00:31:41,140 --> 00:31:44,620 is, like, Bell Meade is, I mean, that's an older neighborhood. 633 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:45,340 Yes, it is. 634 00:31:46,060 --> 00:31:49,480 What are they? 100 and 100 years old, maybe, or as older than, oh 635 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,860 gosh, civil war even THINK SO area, you know, but it's like, I 636 00:31:53,860 --> 00:31:57,760 grew up around in New York. You're talking Revolutionary War 637 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,620 communities that go far beyond that, Westchester County, 638 00:32:01,620 --> 00:32:05,340 Greenwich, you know, Stanford, pound Ridge, those areas. I 639 00:32:05,340 --> 00:32:08,700 mean, that was old money. Yeah, multi generational, you know, 640 00:32:08,700 --> 00:32:10,920 you're talking three, four or five generations worth of 641 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,460 wealth. And it's just funny, when I read that down here, I'm 642 00:32:14,460 --> 00:32:18,300 like, Oh, you, you have no idea this is you're still there with 643 00:32:18,300 --> 00:32:18,660 this. 644 00:32:18,660 --> 00:32:19,140 Yeah, 645 00:32:19,260 --> 00:32:21,080 you guys are newbies. Yeah, you really 646 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,820 are, well, I must say, growing up in New Orleans, there's, 647 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:32,120 there's a certain snobbery there about the old money, and it is 648 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:39,200 old. There's no giving around that and the old families. It 649 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,060 has changed over the years. You know, time has kind of changed 650 00:32:43,060 --> 00:32:47,020 that Katrina certainly changed a lot of that. There's a lot of 651 00:32:47,020 --> 00:32:48,700 people left and didn't come back. 652 00:32:48,700 --> 00:32:49,120 Yeah. 653 00:32:50,020 --> 00:32:52,840 You know, Charleston, South Carolina, again, an old city 654 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,260 with a lot of history, a lot of old money, if you've ever been 655 00:32:56,260 --> 00:32:59,860 there, the area known as the battery, which is beautiful, old 656 00:32:59,860 --> 00:33:03,600 mansions, these antebellum homes that are along 657 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:04,020 sun, 658 00:33:04,020 --> 00:33:04,740 War era, 659 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,200 Oh, yeah. And before that, you know, 1840s 660 00:33:07,860 --> 00:33:08,220 Yeah, 661 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,180 that are, you know, it's along the the well, heck, it's the 662 00:33:12,180 --> 00:33:18,000 ocean, you know. But it's right there, near Fort Sumter, you 663 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,680 know, yeah, it's just idling things sitting out in the middle 664 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,760 of the bay there. But there is still a snobbery about the old 665 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,600 family money. And I think most of your cities have that, 666 00:33:29,660 --> 00:33:30,140 oh yeah, 667 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,980 at least the cities of any size. But heck, even your small towns, 668 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,300 you know, it's like, well, you know, the Hartford heck, they've 669 00:33:38,300 --> 00:33:42,400 been in this community for five generations. You know, they're 670 00:33:42,700 --> 00:33:46,240 most of them were land or farmers landowners, because 671 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,020 that's ultimately where your wealth is. Well, the land, yeah, 672 00:33:50,020 --> 00:33:55,780 and most rich, I found this to be true. Most of the rich that I 673 00:33:55,780 --> 00:34:00,240 meet, the you know, the more wealth to do. People, you know, 674 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,920 they're not snobs. They if they earned it, they are really cool 675 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:05,520 people. Yep, the 676 00:34:05,580 --> 00:34:06,420 first generation. 677 00:34:06,420 --> 00:34:10,560 Yeah, the first now, if you meet a, you know, if you meet a trust 678 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,600 fund, baby, they may be a little different. 679 00:34:12,659 --> 00:34:16,979 Perfect example was, again, when I worked for my dad doing 680 00:34:16,979 --> 00:34:22,039 telephone work, we had a nursing home in Rye, New York. It was 681 00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:25,039 right on the Connecticut, New York border, and it was a second 682 00:34:25,039 --> 00:34:28,159 generation owned nursing home. The first generation is the 683 00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:31,519 parents. The father still had an office. You think it was put in 684 00:34:31,519 --> 00:34:35,179 the 70s, still came into work, still wore a full suit. The 685 00:34:35,179 --> 00:34:37,639 mother didn't, you know, she worked with all the 686 00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:39,619 administrative staff. She had a little desk. 687 00:34:39,620 --> 00:34:39,980 Yeah? 688 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:44,740 A lot of humility there, yeah? But the kids ostentatious, oh, 689 00:34:44,740 --> 00:34:49,300 yeah, this dude, Robert Wilmer, his name was, I'll never forget. 690 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:54,520 Never forget. He almost reminded me of the liar, yeah, that's it. 691 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,580 That's that. Oh, John, Levi, John Levitt, yeah, he had a very 692 00:34:57,580 --> 00:35:02,460 like his bottom lips. I mean, it was. Are so stereotypical. Like 693 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,700 he had this kind of, you know, the bottom lip would stick out 694 00:35:05,700 --> 00:35:08,760 like a pouty kind of, you know, and he just talked. Every time 695 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,660 he talked, he cringed. Mother, I don't like those. Here's the 696 00:35:12,660 --> 00:35:16,140 kicker. Here I am. I know a lot of questionable people at that 697 00:35:16,140 --> 00:35:19,980 point in my life, yeah, and this dude would come out while I'm on 698 00:35:19,980 --> 00:35:24,620 a ladder in the actual entryway, the foyer, the reception area, 699 00:35:26,300 --> 00:35:28,580 and I'm on a ladder running stuff from the ceiling, and I 700 00:35:28,580 --> 00:35:31,220 just kind of looked down, and there he is, dude pulls out a 701 00:35:31,220 --> 00:35:34,820 wad of cash. I mean nothing but hundreds. Just starts counting 702 00:35:34,820 --> 00:35:37,340 in front of everybody. And I'm going, 703 00:35:38,540 --> 00:35:39,020 Yeah, well, 704 00:35:39,020 --> 00:35:41,740 like, Dude, I have access to your office. I know your home 705 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:42,400 address. 706 00:35:43,420 --> 00:35:43,540 All 707 00:35:43,540 --> 00:35:46,180 I have to do is tell some of these people that I hang out 708 00:35:46,180 --> 00:35:48,640 with at this point in my life. Yes, this dude, at any given 709 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,580 time, is probably carrying three, $4,000 on them in cash. 710 00:35:51,580 --> 00:35:56,440 Yeah, here's where he lives. Go with that. What you need? Yeah? 711 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:56,980 Have fun, 712 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,300 yeah? But, well, 713 00:35:58,300 --> 00:35:58,420 you 714 00:35:58,420 --> 00:36:01,320 mentioned, you know, I'm thought, and I know I keep 715 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,840 making these South Carolina references, but I think so many 716 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,420 people know about it because it was such a big deal. Was this 717 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:11,700 Alec Murdoch guy down in South Carolina, this old family money 718 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,500 that he certainly didn't earn, right? You know, and his kids 719 00:36:16,500 --> 00:36:20,420 didn't earn. They act like fools. One of them ended up 720 00:36:20,420 --> 00:36:25,160 getting a young girl killed on that boat because he was driving 721 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,760 it drunk and so on and so forth. But you know, during the trial 722 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,960 of that guy who was convicted of killing his wife and son, it 723 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:38,060 became very evident that he was just this guy that, yeah, sure, 724 00:36:38,060 --> 00:36:40,960 he went to South Carolina University South Carolina got 725 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,960 his law degree like his father and his grandfather and so, 726 00:36:44,260 --> 00:36:44,680 yeah, 727 00:36:44,740 --> 00:36:48,580 but, you know, I think a lot of him getting into the school, 728 00:36:48,580 --> 00:36:53,380 first of all was because of who the family was and the fact that 729 00:36:53,380 --> 00:36:56,080 he was able to even graduate from there. I think people 730 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,180 pulled some strings to make that happen. 731 00:36:58,180 --> 00:36:58,900 Oh, sure, 732 00:36:59,020 --> 00:37:02,100 you know, to make sure that he got the easy route through all 733 00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:07,500 that, but not not really appreciating, to me, that's just 734 00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:12,540 such a lack of respect for what your family did that worked so 735 00:37:12,540 --> 00:37:16,740 hard to be able to get you these opportunities 736 00:37:16,740 --> 00:37:17,460 exactly 737 00:37:17,460 --> 00:37:22,880 to take and really respect them and honor those opportunities by 738 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:29,900 not being an idiot. It really is upsetting to me, for like, the 739 00:37:29,900 --> 00:37:33,740 kind of folks that you're talking about, Jim, that just 740 00:37:33,740 --> 00:37:38,720 don't really respect what it took to get to that point, all 741 00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:42,100 the hard work and such that families coming here with 742 00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:43,360 literally nothing 743 00:37:43,660 --> 00:37:44,320 exactly on 744 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,940 their backs, you know, the whole immigrant thing, and I know 745 00:37:48,940 --> 00:37:53,440 that's a big topic of discussion these days, but man, folks came 746 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,640 here with nothing, built these empires, and you've got families 747 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,260 that just ruined them, like this Murdoch guy, destroyed the 748 00:38:01,260 --> 00:38:03,000 legacy of the of the family. 749 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,700 Because I think that might be the differentiating aspect of 750 00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:08,940 this, because, like, a more I'm thinking about this, there are 751 00:38:08,940 --> 00:38:11,400 people that do that. There's an old adage that the first 752 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,100 generation works for it, the second generation squanders it, 753 00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:17,280 the third generation loses it. Is typically how it plays out, 754 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:17,700 right? It's 755 00:38:17,700 --> 00:38:21,020 not unlike, you know, cultural generational shifts that we've 756 00:38:21,020 --> 00:38:24,140 talked about in the past on this show where you've got your World 757 00:38:24,140 --> 00:38:28,340 War, two generation that fought the war, strong men create Good 758 00:38:28,460 --> 00:38:31,940 times. Good times create weak men. Weak men create bad times. 759 00:38:31,940 --> 00:38:35,180 Bad times create strong men. So on and so forth. That is a cycle 760 00:38:35,540 --> 00:38:37,700 that happens in these families too, but I think with the 761 00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:41,440 immigration aspect of it, for example, company up in 762 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,380 Connecticut that I worked for was an electrical company. 763 00:38:44,380 --> 00:38:47,860 They're like the Lee company of Connecticut, and it's a Rizzo 764 00:38:47,860 --> 00:38:51,640 companies. And the guy came here from Italy, you know, rumor has 765 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,400 it when his third child was being unborn in the hospital and 766 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,740 everything like that. And he wasn't there because he was out 767 00:38:56,740 --> 00:38:59,020 on a telephone pole somewhere, just getting the job, making 768 00:38:59,020 --> 00:39:01,680 money, yeah, making sure the kids could eat, you know? And he 769 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,980 grew that into an empire. His kids are now the second 770 00:39:04,980 --> 00:39:08,100 generation owners of the business, and they are taking 771 00:39:08,100 --> 00:39:10,980 care of the business like they are really running with, yeah. 772 00:39:10,980 --> 00:39:15,240 And so I think the immigration might, the immigrant aspect, I 773 00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:18,060 think makes a huge difference, because they came from a world 774 00:39:18,060 --> 00:39:19,080 of like, oh man, 775 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:19,740 oh yeah, 776 00:39:19,740 --> 00:39:23,000 I can't do this on my own here. I can only do that in America. 777 00:39:23,060 --> 00:39:23,660 Yeah, you know, 778 00:39:23,660 --> 00:39:27,740 in fact, that's why I love immigrants. I'm against illegal 779 00:39:27,740 --> 00:39:30,320 immigration. We have to get we have to be better about 780 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,640 enforcing our laws. But that, I think some of the greatest 781 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,760 Americans I have ever met are people that are immigrants. I 782 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,560 come from a well of what they Well, I guess Trump called it, 783 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:42,880 you know, shit, whole country, 784 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:43,240 yeah, 785 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,840 and he's right. I mean, they were just they, and they came 786 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:52,780 from, you know, these, these ruthless dictators, and they 787 00:39:52,780 --> 00:39:55,720 didn't have a chance to make any kind of Betterment for 788 00:39:55,720 --> 00:39:58,480 themselves or their family. And they get to have it done here, 789 00:39:58,540 --> 00:40:02,760 you almost like if your kids. Not appreciating the country. 790 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,860 Take them down to southern Miami, yes, 791 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:05,280 and have 792 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,620 them hang out with a bunch of Cubans that have come here to 793 00:40:07,620 --> 00:40:08,640 the country. Or, 794 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:08,880 you know, 795 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,640 they are very conservative minded people. 796 00:40:11,700 --> 00:40:16,140 Or have them, have them. Do you know, work outside of the 797 00:40:16,140 --> 00:40:18,840 country through a church? Go down to 798 00:40:19,140 --> 00:40:20,480 that would be phase two. Yeah. 799 00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:22,340 Go down to Central America, 800 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,000 talking to the first witnesses. Yeah, doesn't do it. Yeah. Fine. 801 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,100 Go to Cuba, yeah. Good luck. 802 00:40:28,220 --> 00:40:32,540 I remember very vividly I was just a kid at the time. Again, 803 00:40:32,540 --> 00:40:36,380 moved to New Orleans when I was 10 years old, but there in the 804 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:45,700 early 70s, when the Vietnam War was coming to a close. 7475 all 805 00:40:45,700 --> 00:40:49,780 of the Cambodians. And, you know, the the Cambodian boat 806 00:40:49,780 --> 00:40:55,360 lift and a lot of the Vietnamese were moved into the New Orleans 807 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:55,780 area. 808 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,220 Yeah, there is two 809 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:02,760 there is a huge Vietnamese contingency in New Orleans. And, 810 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,480 you know, those folks came here. I mean, boy, you talk about with 811 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:11,160 nothing and But what was so interesting is that it took, 812 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,940 like, two or three years, and they owned their own businesses. 813 00:41:15,180 --> 00:41:19,860 You know, they would bring over a family of 10 people, grandma, 814 00:41:19,860 --> 00:41:23,060 grandpa, on both sides, brothers, sons, cousins, get, 815 00:41:23,060 --> 00:41:26,360 you know, kids and they all lived in one, one house. 816 00:41:26,420 --> 00:41:26,960 Yes, 817 00:41:27,140 --> 00:41:33,560 pool their money. Work, any job. It wasn't that a job was too, 818 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,940 you know, they were too good for there was no such thing. And 819 00:41:37,940 --> 00:41:41,920 before you knew it, they were, you know, sitting pretty after 820 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,640 just a few years again, coming here, hard work, pulling 821 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,240 together, pooling their money, honoring their family members, 822 00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:53,140 especially the elders, taking care of them, not expecting them 823 00:41:53,140 --> 00:41:54,700 to be on the government dole, 824 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:55,360 right? 825 00:41:56,500 --> 00:41:59,320 But you know, it's just a different mindset. 826 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:00,160 Oh, definitely, 827 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,040 and a lot of people have today. 828 00:42:02,100 --> 00:42:07,020 Well, and I love the Vietnamese. I dated a girl in Kansas City, 829 00:42:07,020 --> 00:42:10,260 and she lived in a neighborhood where it was very heavily 830 00:42:10,260 --> 00:42:14,940 popular, populated by Vietnamese families. And I loved because I 831 00:42:14,940 --> 00:42:19,620 went into she went to work, and I was just hanging out. So I go 832 00:42:19,620 --> 00:42:23,060 to this grocery store, and it was mostly Vietnamese, 833 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:27,200 Vietnamese grocery store, and I walk in, and you know how 834 00:42:27,620 --> 00:42:31,160 there's all kinds of just talking, and it was like I was 835 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:35,180 with the government, because all of a sudden everything just went 836 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:42,940 silent. And I even tried to, you know, like, have a conversation 837 00:42:42,940 --> 00:42:44,560 with some of them, and they wouldn't 838 00:42:45,100 --> 00:42:46,600 just very distrustful, 839 00:42:46,660 --> 00:42:48,460 yes, very distrustful of me. The 840 00:42:49,240 --> 00:42:51,820 I will give you hope. Circling back around being, you know, 841 00:42:51,820 --> 00:42:54,340 kind of wary of California's that are moving in, makes me 842 00:42:54,340 --> 00:42:55,540 think of New York. You know, the 843 00:42:55,540 --> 00:42:55,900 history 844 00:42:55,900 --> 00:42:58,540 of New York, that they went through those cycles of, you 845 00:42:58,540 --> 00:43:01,020 know, so many different iterations and where they 846 00:43:01,020 --> 00:43:03,780 started. And, hey, these people are moving it now. What's that 847 00:43:03,780 --> 00:43:07,500 going to mean? And I sat in 2018 at the top of One World Trade 848 00:43:07,860 --> 00:43:11,100 and looked down on the city, and I said, Everything I'm looking 849 00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:14,280 at started with a thought. And that's just an incredible 850 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,520 notion. And it's obviously working out well for them. Yeah, 851 00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:18,900 so Well, 852 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:19,500 well, 853 00:43:21,780 --> 00:43:23,060 hopefully you're hopeful now, 854 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,440 oh yeah, really am. No, you know, I actually think this 855 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,380 neighbor I was talking about, you know, the I call John 856 00:43:30,380 --> 00:43:33,020 Dutton. I think he's probably a nice guy. 857 00:43:33,020 --> 00:43:33,320 Yeah, 858 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:38,480 because he seems like, I mean, I haven't met him, but I just wish 859 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,560 he would have more. It just seems like 860 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,060 awareness, yeah, 861 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,640 just just have more awareness that you're having to deal with 862 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:51,280 people that have gotten used to a certain way of life then, and 863 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,040 we've had too many problems with dogs out there. I mean, we've 864 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:58,480 had people that have let their dogs roam, and a neighbor, his 865 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,880 dog got killed by a group of dogs that were just letting you 866 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,800 know. People were letting them run run loose. 867 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,680 Maybe a simple aspect of the letting them know, hey, when 868 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,620 these run loose, like this man, you're running the risk of 869 00:44:10,620 --> 00:44:11,640 something happened to him. 870 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:12,060 Well, yeah, 871 00:44:12,060 --> 00:44:13,080 you don't want nothing 872 00:44:13,140 --> 00:44:16,080 happening. You don't want nothing happen to your dog. You 873 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,240 don't want to have your dog. Yeah, the good 874 00:44:18,300 --> 00:44:22,100 thing is that you could pay me a couple of points every month and 875 00:44:22,100 --> 00:44:23,960 make sure when nothing happens to your dogs. 876 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,240 Hey, maybe I should do that. Maybe I should go over there. 877 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,800 Listen, just a little down payment. We can make, make sure 878 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,900 your little feet, you know, your your dog, 879 00:44:32,900 --> 00:44:33,680 canine friends, 880 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,160 your canine friends will will be safe in the neighborhood, you 881 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:37,820 know, saying, 882 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,160 Well, I'm thinking, you know Jim, I think Jim made a great 883 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,040 point. Perhaps the guy just thinks, you know, depending on 884 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,620 where he came from, which may have been kind of congested and 885 00:44:47,620 --> 00:44:50,080 all, and now he's in a little more spread out area, and he 886 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:55,900 thinks, Well, hell, I'm out in the country. Yeah, dogs run I'm 887 00:44:55,900 --> 00:44:59,320 down here a bunch of southern rednecks, their dogs run loose. 888 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:01,780 They're always perceived as dumb asses, 889 00:45:05,260 --> 00:45:13,060 you know? And that is, that is a that is really because I've seen 890 00:45:13,060 --> 00:45:15,760 people from the north do that, where they think somebody that 891 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,300 has a southern accent is stupid. Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah. 892 00:45:19,299 --> 00:45:22,099 Whenever, in any type of environment, if you want to make 893 00:45:22,099 --> 00:45:24,859 somebody come across as an idiot, usually that you give 894 00:45:24,859 --> 00:45:27,799 them a southern accent, yeah? So, 895 00:45:27,860 --> 00:45:29,540 but that doesn't mean they're stupid. 896 00:45:29,540 --> 00:45:36,380 Hold my beer. Yeah. I was guilty of that. I will be honest. I 897 00:45:36,380 --> 00:45:39,020 think everybody, I mean, if you're not from the south, 898 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:39,500 no, 899 00:45:39,860 --> 00:45:44,260 I think, yeah, I think you, I think you kind of have that 900 00:45:44,260 --> 00:45:44,860 image. But 901 00:45:44,860 --> 00:45:47,140 the funny thing is, Nashville doesn't have many, I mean, even 902 00:45:47,140 --> 00:45:49,660 when I moved here, not many people spoke had the southern 903 00:45:49,660 --> 00:45:50,560 accent. Well, 904 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,200 literally, Mark from here. Yeah, that's all thing about, and 905 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:57,280 that's why, I guess we should be used to people coming from 906 00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:01,680 different areas, because I've rarely met anybody that is a 907 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,840 native nashvillian 908 00:46:04,020 --> 00:46:07,260 Now, anybody who comments on Facebook on a regular basis, 99% 909 00:46:07,860 --> 00:46:10,740 chance they're a dumb ass. Just reading is awful. That's the one 910 00:46:10,740 --> 00:46:14,700 thing that just man, you want to talk about something that grinds 911 00:46:14,700 --> 00:46:17,220 my gears when I see these community pages and somebody 912 00:46:17,220 --> 00:46:19,800 wants to put a complaint up about something and the way it's 913 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,240 written, I'm like, guys in the age of spell check and frickin 914 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,940 AI, yes. Why? I 915 00:46:25,940 --> 00:46:29,660 mean punctuations, punctuations, proper spelling, 916 00:46:29,660 --> 00:46:30,140 right? 917 00:46:30,260 --> 00:46:30,860 Yeah, 918 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,340 I think much of that is due to the texting culture. 919 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:35,000 Yes, 920 00:46:35,180 --> 00:46:40,240 that has all these shortcuts and just abbreviations for things, 921 00:46:40,240 --> 00:46:44,080 and it's just totally ruined the ability to construct a coherent 922 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:48,700 sentence, not only in the written sense, but verbally as 923 00:46:48,940 --> 00:46:49,420 well. 924 00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:52,540 Well, I'm getting tired of now. We've moved on to another 925 00:46:52,540 --> 00:46:57,160 subject, social media. But one thing that has really driven me 926 00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:01,620 crazy is that everybody's now a political pundit, oh yeah. And 927 00:47:01,620 --> 00:47:01,800 some 928 00:47:01,860 --> 00:47:02,760 dotted opinion, 929 00:47:02,820 --> 00:47:07,200 and some of them shouldn't be, you know, you know, every time I 930 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,800 turn around, somebody's going, well, here are my thoughts on 931 00:47:10,860 --> 00:47:15,120 what's actually, 932 00:47:15,180 --> 00:47:18,960 yeah, Twitter or x or whatever. I mean that that's the wild wild 933 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,720 west in that area, 934 00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:21,260 yeah? 935 00:47:21,740 --> 00:47:25,760 And it just blows my mind some of the things that people put 936 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:31,460 out there in terms of, you know, just showing their ass, yeah, 937 00:47:31,460 --> 00:47:33,320 you know, well, keyboard, 938 00:47:33,380 --> 00:47:35,660 a keyboard really makes somebody fearless. 939 00:47:36,260 --> 00:47:38,780 Well, I love the with the Artemis thing that's been 940 00:47:38,780 --> 00:47:42,340 happening, yes. How many people are going, yeah, right, sure, 941 00:47:42,340 --> 00:47:47,980 yeah, there's a new nobody believes nothing anymore. Right 942 00:47:47,980 --> 00:47:51,580 back to 1968 when everybody's going, Oh, they did that on a 943 00:47:51,580 --> 00:47:55,060 movie studio, which they could have, right? You know, 944 00:47:55,060 --> 00:47:56,920 that's, you know, there's legit, it's possible. 945 00:47:57,940 --> 00:48:00,960 I'm telling you what you what you see here on circling the 946 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,500 drain. It's real baby, and you can check it out where Jay 947 00:48:04,500 --> 00:48:04,920 Harper, 948 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:11,400 yes, you can find us real idiots on circling the we didn't need 949 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,580 AI to create this atrocity. 950 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:15,420 We sure did. 951 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,860 You can find us circling the drain.net. And of course, all of 952 00:48:19,860 --> 00:48:22,700 the audio platforms, you know where they are. Apple podcasts. 953 00:48:22,700 --> 00:48:27,980 I heart Spotify. And if you want to see our lovely faces, you can 954 00:48:27,980 --> 00:48:32,180 do it on Facebook or, heck, YouTube, when it works, yeah. 955 00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:36,620 And also Spotify the video portion. We're man, we're trying 956 00:48:36,620 --> 00:48:40,960 to flood the flood, the interrupts, the yes, the digital 957 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:41,980 space, yes, 958 00:48:42,220 --> 00:48:48,100 so to YouTube, and anyway, we'll be back next time on circling 959 00:48:48,100 --> 00:48:48,640 the drain.