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Welcome to FixOx Mastermind.
I am Kyle Morrissette,
and today I'm joined by Kaylee Filio,
who is the sales and marketing director
for PartsEdge.
Welcome to the show, Kaylee.
Thanks for having me.
Happy to be here.
I'm excited for today's conversation.
I know you have so much to bring
to the table that, you know,
you started your career managing a subway
store and next thing you know,
you've worked yourself into parts edge and
grown a,
you know, help grow a great company.
Can you share what first attracted you
from leaving being a sandwich artist to
becoming a parts maestro?
You know,
I didn't know what I was getting into,
I think.
And it's so crazy to think that that
was that was so long ago doing and
I was so young.
Not that I'm old now.
Still pretty young.
But yeah,
just what attracted me to stick with it
and stay was there was a lot of
parallels in managing a restaurant and
and dealing with a franchise and going
into auto and learning about dealerships
and that franchise.
Then when it comes to the parts department
and just managing an inventory,
it's very similar to managing an inventory
at a restaurant.
I picked up a lot very quickly,
I feel like,
and just kind of stuck with it.
I wasn't always in sales and marketing
with PartsEdge.
I first started in customer success
support and learning the ins and outs of
what we actually do for the dealerships.
And then that position opened up.
So I jumped on that because I always
knew that sales and marketing is really
what I wanted to do.
So, yeah,
that's that's what attracted me to it.
Awesome.
So with almost a decade with them now,
and you are still young,
you've built a marketing and sales
presence basically from the ground up.
What guiding principles shaped you to
develop the brand and connect with the
parts managers who are unfamiliar or maybe
didn't know that they needed to be guided
in that direction?
Wait, go back.
Sorry, what was the question?
What guiding principles shaped how you
developed the brand and connected with
parts managers who were unfamiliar with
the vision?
Really,
the guiding principles was going back to
education,
just helping to educate on inventory,
the health, the parts department,
all of that,
because it just isn't something that's
talked about a lot.
So when I started in the role,
because there was really no marketing in
place, I mean, we had a website.
That was pretty much it.
And a lot of the growth happened from
word of mouth, which is a great strategy.
But you also have to scale that too.
So I just went back to the core
and that was just creating education and
helping put that knowledge out there
because the founders are very,
very knowledgeable and they're very,
very good at executing.
So I just kind of took that and
turned it into the brand.
Yeah.
I don't know how else to explain it
because I kind of don't,
I feel like I always say I don't
know what I'm doing,
but everyone says I know what I'm doing.
I think when you know how to do
it and you have that ability to be
able to sometimes be able to put it
out there and say, well,
this is what I do.
And it could be an idea that you
went to bed and
thought about in your head overnight and
woke up and there it is.
So it's not always planned for, right?
So the creative side of you can come
at any moment.
Is that how you feel?
Yes.
Creative.
It always happens right before bed or at
night.
I do have like a,
I don't know what it's called,
like a golden hour or golden couple hours
in the morning where it's just like,
so much.
And then I feel like in the afternoon,
it's like, it's just kind of,
I'm dead work, but it's like,
I'm my creative and my ideas aren't
flowing.
I'm just kind of executing.
If that makes sense.
But yeah,
it's just constantly just thinking of new
ways and then also just tracking what's
working and then just repeating that is a
lot of what I'm doing.
And I think a lot of people don't
realize too,
is because we are such a small company,
I'm the only one doing sales and marketing
and I don't have a designated person for
certain roles, which I probably should,
because there's so many areas I would love
to improve on.
And it's just, you know,
you can only do so much.
Right.
Yeah.
One person with so many hours in the
day and a family to take care of
and everything else.
So, yeah, I get it.
So I guess, you know,
one of the things that came up was
you launching the Parts Girl podcast and
really spotlighting our parts personnel,
which I applaud you for.
Far too often they just get forgotten
about back in the back and just how
important they are to us.
operation for all facets of the game,
right?
So sales needs you, service needs you,
counter needs you.
So what was the gap that you saw
in the podcast space that pushed you to
take on the role?
And since hosting,
has your perspective changed on the
leadership in the industry?
Has it changed at all?
Oh, man, that's such a loaded question.
Okay.
So I started the podcast,
I think it's been about five,
five years now.
So it was like,
people were just starting to podcast in
our industry a lot more are not as
much like now there's there's everyone
pretty much has a podcast.
So I feel fortunate that I will I
kind of saw that opportunity and was like,
Hey, we need this.
Because there was so many fixed ops
podcasts,
and they weren't really talking about
parts.
And then,
but then what I found was when I
started podcasting parts,
people are so hard to get onto the
podcast.
I mean,
and then I would always make comments.
I'm like,
why are the parts people never on the
websites?
And then some people told me like working
at the dealerships are like,
because they don't want to be on the
website.
So it wasn't just, you know,
them not being noticed.
It was them also not wanting to be
on the website or whatever.
So yeah.
Anyways, long story short,
I did the podcast and I rebranded it
actually recently.
I was going through, you know,
it just evolves over time when you're
podcasting and I'm still kind of trying to
navigate.
And I feel like I've got a good
thing that I shifted to because I've
gotten more clients on.
I have more founder spotlight of PartsEdge
on to really talk about the things that
aren't talked about a lot.
And that's really why I started the Parts
Girl or Parts Edge podcast is to highlight
some of those things.
So I don't know if I answered your
question.
I say that a lot when I'm doing
interviews.
But no, you did.
I think, you know, you're right.
There's there's a lot of parts personnel
just want that want to be the quiet
hero.
You know, they or they're they're
introverted in a way where it's
uncomfortable for them to put themselves
out in this way.
And take credit for all the awesome things
that they do.
Because a lot of times,
sorry to cut you off,
I'm just thinking about all the
conversations I have.
They're more than just parts.
They get involved in the shop efficiency.
They get involved in the service side and
appointments, recon with sales.
I feel like if you can break down
the silos in the dealerships,
They're so much more than just ordering
parts.
Oh, God.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean,
they're they're fully responsible for
keeping us going, right?
So if they're not sourcing the parts,
they're not figuring out how to get them
here quick.
They're not engaged with the technician
and asking the right questions.
You could have a car dead on the
lift because we forgot to order a seal.
And there's so much that happens with
them.
You know,
like fixed as a whole kind of is
second fiddle to the sales department.
The glory comes from there.
And, you know,
all the hard work comes from the backside.
But I think you're right.
I think it's it's there's some out there
that want to be in the forefront and
will be involved.
And there's others that are like, hey,
I just want to do a job.
And I collect my paycheck and I do
what I'm supposed to do and I keep
moving.
But they don't realize just how great they
are and what they could do.
for future people looking to come into our
business to give them another avenue of
employment, right?
So, I mean,
there's such a value there for sure.
so you know you definitely answered the
question and i i would say on the
podcast side uh i i definitely when dave
forced me into this uh decision uh that
i didn't get to make it was his
um i i won't lie i went back
and watched you know some of your early
stuff and as it is
Because although I'm comfortable talking
to any customer or employee or in front
of my team,
being in a situation where you're putting
something out to the unknown, right?
So, I mean, you know,
some people that are going to watch it,
but you don't know who it's actually going
to get to.
It's like, oh, man, I don't know.
I want to make sure that I come
across the right way.
And sometimes I'm a little too sharp.
And I say things that later on,
I'm like,
I probably could have softened that up a
bit.
I mean,
we can always change the way we say
things.
There's always a better way after we say
it and you think back.
Like, I do that all the time.
I'm like, man,
I could have said that a little
differently.
But it's like we can't do that because
the other person,
what they perceive is so much different
than what we think.
Like, you know what I mean?
It just doesn't help to over – I'm
the same way, though.
I completely overthink everything.
Yeah, I overthink everything.
But with the podcast, I was like,
I am not going to do this.
I don't want to focus on like,
oh my gosh,
I have so many downloads or I have
so many things.
I wanted to really just focus on having
conversations and connecting with that
person I was interviewing.
It wasn't about...
something going viral or anything like
that it was just you know let's just
have a conversation and it'll touch at
least one person like no matter what you
know it'll someone one person will at
least listen to this and benefit from it
hopefully not this but like any of the
conversations well that's our goal right
um and it's i'm glad that you said
that because um i don't know what the
show does
um, you know, I,
I watch it here and there and I
see four or five people and I'll text
Dave and I'll go, is that good?
And he's like, no, man, it's,
everything's going fine.
But, um, for me, same thing.
It's not about that.
It's about, let's get together, you know,
to be great together.
And the more people that we can get
involved in it, uh,
from all aspects of our business, uh, uh,
the better off we are.
So, um, you know, that's,
that's just kind
So far it's been fun.
I've talked to people from different
countries and learned how the business
goes and made great contacts like you and
a whole bunch of others.
So it's been super, super fun.
So pivoting just a little bit away from
the podcast and what we're doing.
So PartsEdge itself is helping dealerships
tackle idle inventory, obsolescence,
DMS efficiencies,
Can you walk us through a like a
high impact use case where these tools
helped a parts team reclaim profitability
if they were losing and now they're
profitable and what that meant for the
overall culture and workflow of the
department?
That is such a big question.
No,
I think that is such a hard thing,
I think,
to answer because what we're getting
involved in a lot is efficiency.
And that is translates into more profit.
And a lot of the dealerships we work
with are very, very profitable already.
You know,
we're starting to work with them and
creating like it's almost like giving them
another level up because there's a lot of
tasks and there's a lot of data involved,
as you know, in managing an inventory.
And then you also have your manufacturer
programs.
um so it's it's so much and then
the reporting so giving you some examples
i guess is a lot of times when
i hear from parts managers is they didn't
realize how much how easier the
information could be displayed so that
they can make better decisions um and on
the back end the dms
They really, I think in dealerships,
you only use ten to twenty percent of
its capabilities as far as the parts.
That's what I know about the parts
department.
So we we increase that capability and
that's really.
boils down to how it's set up and
maintaining that for the parts manager,
because they have so many hats that
they're wearing.
They don't have time to do the things
that they need to do in the DMS,
nor should they have to,
because it's like we're in twenty twenty
five.
This is right.
We're like,
you shouldn't be doing these tasks.
This should automatically be happening for
you.
So I don't know that there's so many
things I could go down.
But I would say, though,
When you talk about obsolescence and idle
inventory,
because I get this all the time and
it's almost really frustrating,
that dealerships just want someone to buy
their obsolescence.
And yeah, okay, that's a great strategy,
but what if you had less that you
didn't have to worry about?
What if you were maintaining less or zero?
It shouldn't be like, oh,
let's just sell it off or we're stuck
with all this crap.
Can I say that?
Yeah, go ahead.
But that's the most frustrating thing when
people contact me.
They're like, oh,
PartsEdge buys inventory.
No,
we do not buy idle inventory or
obsolescence.
We make it so that you don't have
idle.
We'll put strategies in place if you have
a problem.
But the biggest thing is maintaining that
at a low level so you're not having
to throw away so much year after year.
Yeah,
I think because of the lack of knowledge
on the part side in some case or
understanding like that's real money that
sits on that shelf.
It's already paid for, right?
So there's no,
that money is already spent.
You own that and there's no way to
get out of it after a certain point.
And a good point to make too,
year after year, there's depreciation.
So what you bought it for and what
it is worth, it's not worth.
And I think that's the thing that happens
when you're looking at the numbers.
It's like, oh, it's still worth that.
And it's like, no, it's not worth that.
Yeah.
I would say, though,
that some dealers look at it and it's
like that revolving door right where,
you know, I have obsolescence.
It's at this percentage.
I'm going to sell it off at fifty
cents on the dollar or in some cases,
fifty cents under what I bought it for
or fifty percent under what I bought it
for.
And we just keep repeating this process
over and over again rather than correcting
the problem.
So you make it so that the problem
becomes corrected and less and more
controllable without having to put
millions of hours of effort into it.
Does that sound right?
That's absolutely right.
Cause that's a good point too.
The amount of time you spend focusing on
getting rid of obsolescence and, um,
and try like selling air,
whatever strategy you use,
like how much time are you actually
spending when you should be spending more
time on that percentage of inventory that
actually makes you more money.
Cause you're in a way you're wasting time
and you aren't really making money off of
that time.
Yeah.
Um,
I mean,
anything for me right now that is going
to take administrative things away and
allow me to be with our people doing
what we're good at, which is training,
helping guests,
training them to be better at giving the
best guest experience and being hands-on.
Those are the things that make the big
difference now.
And we have so much more ability than
we ever have to be able to put
these tools in play.
And if we use them properly,
the expense that we put on those specific
vendor partners or whatever it may be
really is pennies on the dollar from the
value side of what you get.
Do you agree?
Oh, I, I completely agree.
I think, um, just to your point,
the time,
I just don't think that GMs or dealers
think about their managers time the same
way.
Like, it's like, oh, this is your job,
but it's like, yes it is.
But if there's,
there's so much technology to help.
And I feel like we, um,
What I love about what we do,
just being in the industry for so long,
it's not another tool that they have to
learn how to use.
It's a tool that's been around for years.
The DMSs have been around.
This is how you do your business.
So that's what I love about it is
it's not,
it's basically using the DMSs the way that
they should be used and setting it up
like actually for a parts person.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like it's not,
they're just kind of standardized.
Like when I've seen conversions or talk
about,
the setups it's like these are they're
they're just set up from ten fifteen years
ago there's no there's no routine to
change it i mean we've talked about this
yeah i mean it's just kind of the
way it is yeah set it forget it
and uh we're not going to change it
before you figure out how to make it
work for you
And then you're figuring it out and you're
just constantly making tweaks that
basically are more time consuming.
The best quote I could steal from this
one parts manager,
and I remember he was very hesitant
because he is running a very successful
operation and his inventory was great.
And he said he was like,
I didn't realize how much time I needed
or how much time you guys could give
me to be more creative with the way
I'm managing my inventory or how I could
set things up to really see things or
data.
So I just love that quote because I'm
like, man,
we gave you more time to be creative.
And I think that's what parts managers
want.
They love data.
They love looking at this stuff.
I almost threw my mic.
Thank you.
So that kind of was rolling into one
of the next questions, which was that,
you know,
parts managers and in a lot of cases,
service directors, fixed ops directors,
super analytical, numbers driven.
But parts managers specifically will know
their numbers.
You know,
I can go to a parts manager right
now and say,
how much how much money do you have?
How much is the inventory?
How much is coming in on SOPs today?
What do we have going out in wholesale?
And they're going to know those numbers
better than anybody else that's out there.
So for me,
my strength has always been in service.
I've gotten somewhat dangerous in parts,
but it's not my bread and butter.
How can fixed ops leaders like myself
better support and empower the parts
managers,
particularly through that communication
training?
And then obviously technology technology
exposure would be to bring you on board.
But I'm sure that there's things that we
can
co-op into that uh to make it stronger
um but so what do you think that
we should be looking at from you know
from thirty thousand feet where you know
the the ownership is looking all the way
down to the fixed ops director who's
supposed to be supporting them directly oh
your questions are so big okay so the
for a dealer jam like point of view
now i forgot the question
How to make better support and empower the
parts manager.
Thank you.
Okay.
Yes.
There's so many ways I can go with
this because historically,
I always say historically, but it's true.
We've always just kind of let the parts
manager do their thing because they've
done a great job.
And I think to empower,
you have to get involved in understanding
what they're actually doing because i
think that's everyone knows i think even
the parts manager knows that the dealer
typically doesn't really know what they're
doing or their role like they just kind
of let them do their thing so i
think getting more involved and not in a
way of like hey why are you doing
it that way but more of like
How can I better support you and help
you?
Because a lot of times the parts manager
won't speak up that they actually need
help.
I know most of the time when I
can't get a deal to move forward,
it's because the parts manager can't get
the approval and I don't have the
relationship with the dealer or the GM.
Um, I don't really know how,
there's so many things I want to say,
but ask me more questions.
So, so I, I guess be present, right.
Would that be, you know, um,
spend time there, uh, you know, uh,
ask questions and don't, um,
You may not either understand or like the
answer that comes from it,
because that's what happens to me i'll go
back there and i'll be like hey why.
Why do you think we have this many
of this one on the shelf and why
is it here,
and why would it be a little closer
or whatever and there's a strategic plan
in place of the way that they map
out the arts part that's just one you
know one example right.
or.
hey, the special on our shelf,
how do we know exactly how everything's
done?
Is there a list?
Is there this?
Is there that?
And asking these questions to figure out
because in most cases,
there's a reason why we've done things the
way that we do it, right?
So generally, if I'm selling this part,
this part's coming with it,
but if I do it in this way,
I reduce steps,
I reduce time away from the desk.
And so, I mean,
ask those questions because the greatest
parts managers, that's, it's a symphony.
You know,
the counter folks are doing what they have
to do, the back, you know,
the back wholesale staff or the, you know,
the people that are putting the parts away
and pulling them for you,
like all of this has to
coexist together.
And there's one person that's directing
the orchestra.
And I think if you spend more time
with them and show that you are invested
in your investment, I mean,
as an owner or a GM or whatever,
you're being paid on net.
So all that money that is sitting on
those shelves, that's straight expense.
It's not going to go away unless you
sell it.
And your job is to sell it for
profit.
So, you know,
I would say from your point of view
and things that we've talked about in the
past,
it's just try and be present and spend
time back there.
yeah i would say that and then also
just finding a partner that can help
translate because that's a lot of times
that i hear um in in the conversations
is like just having that partner there to
translate to the dealer like this is
actually what's going on because i feel
like that's a lot of times dealers are
like why do i have so much in
obsolescence or why is this it's like
well this is the you know the plan
or this is what's happening and this is
a different there's different ways to just
translate it different language um since a
lot of times i hear we translate it
a little differently so that everyone can
kind of be on the same page
Sure.
So do you think that that's a place
where the fixed ops director kind of jumps
in because normally they have more of an
ear to the upper leadership where they can
translate it the way that the parts
manager needs to?
Yeah, I think so.
I think that's where it really comes.
If you can create a good partnership with
your fixed ops and parts and then help
translate, that's, I mean,
that's a huge game changer, I think.
um but like you said with the process
and making improvements having the fixed
ops director you know asking those
questions but like not in a way of
like why are you doing it this way
you're doing it wrong but in a way
of like you know this is what happens
on our side this is what happens on
service how can we make like how can
we make those little improvements to be
more efficient i think everyone wants to
be more efficient have a better process
like we all
We all don't want to waste time.
We want to know.
No, we want to be we want to.
I mean,
time is is the number one thing that's
against all of us.
Right.
We're all fighting, you know.
So, yeah, no, I agree with you.
And I think, you know,
I've learned over the years a lot of
things from some great parts managers that
you've been able to bring over to service
that, you know,
you don't realize that they're doing back
there that you can actually actually bring
into the service side of it and the
engagement,
whether it be with the technician or even
a customer in a lot of cases.
But there's a lot of strength in parts
that gets overlooked and
and a lot of people,
I think for me, you know,
I've met some parts people recently and
last week I had Peter Kanab from New
York on the show and he,
I found him because he voiced that they
need to have a seat at the table.
And I implore just like I do everybody
else,
let's get together so we can be great
together.
in a position where you think we can
do something better and you have something
to bring to the table i don't care
what position you're in in the dealership
or from the vendor side or you know
vendor partner side or whatever if you
have it speak up and let's talk about
it um and and i think that's great
kaylee i think you know you you do
bring that
Thanks.
Thank you.
Yeah,
you just have to speak up and share.
You never know who's listening.
Yeah.
So in a recent conversation,
you had highlighted the pitfalls of dirty
core management and DMS discrepancies.
What do you find are like best practices
that can be adopted to make sure that
that's not happening to you?
Oh, my gosh.
Well,
I think it depends on what DMS you're
on.
So that was that was a recent.
Well, it's been a couple of months now.
Something that got brought up because I
think there were some changes with PBS and
dealer track and whatnot.
So it's just a lot of requests and
questions around that.
So we just talked about it.
But.
I don't know if I can really share
exactly because everyone's a little bit
different,
but I would say as far as the
DMS goes,
but just having that process in place and
just making sure that you're tracking
those things properly,
I guess is the right way to,
you know, to highlight it.
Cause there's different programs within
the DMSs.
Like you can turn on dirty core tracking
or whatnot in, I think it's in CDK.
Some of the programs work really well and
some of them don't.
So you just have to test it and
make sure and,
Yeah,
if you have questions specifically about
that,
feel free to ask me because I think
that's a whole podcast in itself.
You know,
I'd say that's one of my weakest things
is understanding the dirty core to a clean
core to which one is an expense,
which one are we getting a credit and
how's it all working?
You know, that in itself,
specifically with the way manufacturers
make them come back, I mean, that,
you know, if you have...
three or four cores,
that can be a whole day's worth of
work.
Yes.
And it's unfortunate because it shouldn't
be, right?
I mean,
there's got to be a faster way to
do it.
But do you think that from the OEM
side,
they could do something that's cleaner so
that it doesn't take a whole day to
send cores back?
Specifically on, you know, the brands,
Hyundai, Kia,
that are replacing motors every day.
I mean,
I've been in a couple of stores and,
you know,
the reality is that these guys can have
ten or twelve in a real short time
to get back,
which is taking up space and
depending on, you know,
how you have it set up.
I mean, the last place we were at,
we created a cage for him.
Um,
but he could be out there for six,
seven, eight hours,
just doing course where, you know,
there's so much more that we could be
doing in a, in a next level way.
Yeah.
And that's a good point that I think
it's a manufacturer there's manufacturers
that have more, you know,
that you're dealing with.
Um,
So I think that it's a matter of
just having a good tracking in place
because from what I'm understanding of
them too is you could send it back
and if you're not tracking it,
you can miss those credits and whatnot.
So that's a big deal.
And it just clouds up the health of
your inventory, I think,
if you're not tracking it properly and
looking at it because cores are worth a
lot.
Yeah, they sure are.
don't know if that answers your question
well uh no i mean they're they're uh
they can become a huge loss of money
if they're not done properly i mean i've
seen stores with a hundred thousand
dollars worth of course in there and
you're like oh my god how much of
that can we get back i don't know
if you're not actively on it you're just
gonna lose yeah i think
So going through having a podcast,
running the marketing and sales
development and everything,
there's been so much going on in your
world with the kids and the family.
um and and being able to pivot on
all of that right so uh being a
mom and being present and being able to
be effective in your in your um in
your career um how would you say that
these experiences have um you know shaped
your approach to leadership empathy and
and helping others be able to navigate
that that path
Well,
I would say becoming a parent has taught
me everything, really.
It's completely changed.
I mean,
I wouldn't say completely changed me
because I feel the soul.
I think you're always who you are.
But I think the perspective,
it's completely changed that perspective.
And just like,
there's a lot to being a parent.
And I think in those, especially,
I mean the whole life of the child,
obviously,
but like what I'm dealing with right now
is the younger years.
So it's very, very,
they're very dependent on me and just
trying to raise good humans.
Cause like I'm dealing with a toddler is
different than a, than a six year old.
And just like the emotion,
there's just so much.
I don't even know where to start.
As far as like career goes and leadership,
I feel like I've been super blessed to
be able to be in the role that
I am and still be able to be
there for my children,
because I know that's not the case for
a lot of people.
And so I feel very fortunate that I
kind of get to be able to
run this like it's my own business in
a way.
I'm part of those larger conversations of
development, growth of the company.
I've earned it, of course,
but I would say if anyone is on
that path to looking back,
I feel like I'm rambling,
but trying to really look back on what
think what I did was I just I
set out what I really wanted what I
thought I really wanted to because you
don't really know until you start going
and then you evolve and
And I just kept writing it down and
kept thinking about it.
And really,
that's kind of where I'm at right now.
So I can't really,
because now I'm kind of reached where I
wanted to be.
Now I'm to this point in my life
or my career where I'm like, okay,
what's that next ten years look like?
What am I trying to do?
And then I keep going back to, okay,
what did I do to get to this?
i don't know if i'm helping at all
because i feel like i'm rambling because i
kind of don't really know what those next
ten years look like um or five really
but it's kind of having a baseline of
like okay this is how i see this
week going and then breaking it down day
by day and
of have a plan you know with with
your partner and and you know setting
things up um uh i would say you
know i'm on the tail end of or
the tail end of at least schooling um
you know my my son just started as
a freshman in college and my daughter is
a sophomore in high school so their needs
have changed they're much more
self-reliant now than they uh than they
were but uh i will tell you that
i much
and, you know, thank God, you know,
they call and check with me often and
I know what's going on.
And I mean,
they are a thousand miles away up in
the Northeast, but for me,
It was really hard being in the dealership
because, you know,
at the time I was working fourteen hour
days, so I was four on four off.
So I was there for four days,
twenty four seven.
And then I was gone for four days
where they didn't see me.
I was gone before they got up and
I was back after they went to bed.
So I missed a lot of things over
over the years or got pictures or video
while they were there or whatever.
I think as a whole,
I think our business is starting to
recognize the need for family.
I do.
I do see that for sure.
I think they're being more responsive of,
you know, when your children have things.
finding a way to try and get you
there um and making sure that you have
it uh i still think that there's some
some old souls out there that you know
hey this is what we do we're open
close and and that's the responsibility
and you know whatever um but i think
that they're more few and far between do
you see that in the groups that you're
working with or talking to now
Yeah, absolutely.
I see that.
And there's just more of that
understanding to across the board,
just even then when I'm talking to people
and,
and they're just understanding that I have
a family and I have kids and whatnot.
And it's,
it's just nice to not feel that,
that guilt that you're not,
there's a lot of sacrifices I make.
There's a lot of things I don't go
to because I have a family.
But yeah,
I think the nice part about it is
that guilt that you don't get from or
that pressure that you're not doing a good
job because you're not here.
You're not doing those things.
And what I'm talking about is joining the
after-hour conversations.
Or there's some conferences that I've
given up that I haven't gone to because
of the small kids.
So I don't know.
I just feel like...
there's a lot of,
there's just an understanding.
I think it all kind of goes back
to having the community on LinkedIn and
being able to be there and still be
connected without having to physically be
there, even though the physical,
like being there is so much better,
of course.
And then of course, because I live,
my husband is in a dealership,
so I get to firsthand see that as
well.
And then
been great and understanding like um my
daughter has soccer on wednesdays and he
gets to leave early so it's like and
be there and help me because yes i
work from home but i also like it's
i cannot be with them all day long
yeah yeah meetings come up things come up
and
You know,
and then you have like your household
things you have, you know,
taking care of the house,
making your dinner,
their snacks or if they're sick.
Like there's so many things that being
working at home.
Yes, you have that flexibility,
but you also have to be very,
very structured so that you can you're
working in an office basically.
Yeah.
and yeah so and having those have those
work i mean i i think there's a
misconception i know you know obviously a
bunch of people that work from home now
that i get to talk to um frequently
and it's like
Yeah,
I'm not just home doing laundry and baking
cookies and cleaning the house and
touching my mouse every once in a while.
I actually have things that I need to
accomplish.
And these roles require you to be on
camera quite often because you're on a
Zoom call, you're on a Teams call,
you're on this call,
you're on that call and this meeting.
I envy you.
I think it's hard to be honest with
you.
I think it's harder to work from home
depending on what you're doing specific
than it is to be in the store
where you can just, you know, for me,
when I walk into a store,
that's all that's going on right now.
I can completely shut off and everything
on the outside world and my responsibility
for the next, you know, ten, twelve,
fourteen hours is I'm going to I'm going
to do my job.
Whereas, you know,
right now somebody could walk in and say,
Hey, I, I broke my nose, you know,
and,
and you have to deal with that right
now,
instead of getting a phone call and then
have to adjust to it, you get to,
you know,
so I personally think that if I had
to work from home,
it would be miserable because there's too
many out, you know,
too many things going on.
Right.
So like right now I'm praying that neither
of these dogs bark and my wife's not
here to, you know, to,
you know it's like there's out there's
things that take my attention away from
what i want to be doing uh right
now so how do you how do you
find a way to truly stay connected when
you have to be dialed in connected to
like my work or like the outside world
like there's like so i guess um
guess either right because you know if you
make a commitment to your husband or the
kids or something like that and then
something for work comes up how are you
able to pivot the work thing to make
sure that you honor your commitment to the
family and then vice versa if you have
a commitment to work how do you pivot
to telling the family hey i gotta i've
gotta do this
Yeah.
I would say, of course things come up,
but most of the time it's very,
it's being, I don't,
it just goes back to being really,
really organized and planning.
So it's preparing,
like if I need to go on a
trip or there's big things happening,
like big meetings and I need,
I can't be around.
It's like, you just treat working at home,
like you're going to the office and you're
working.
And I,
I've been fortunate.
Like I'm not taking care of kids right
now.
The ones at school ones with a babysitter.
So, um, it's not all day, you know,
I have a broken up schedule and I'm
very fortunate to be flexible in that way.
But, um,
it's just planning.
You know,
if I want to join those after hours
events, it's letting my husband know like,
Hey,
I really want to join this and I
need you to kind of be extra with
the kids so I can kind of step
away.
I haven't been very good at that lately
because I haven't obviously been joining a
lot of those things.
But that's,
I think I go through phases where I'm
like, okay, I'm really going to,
do this but um and then I try
to join when you know when I don't
plan those things and and it's complete
chaos and I'm like I can't even focus
or listen to this I have to leave
you know because I'm the kids are so
young and so loud and playful like those
those hours uh before bedtime are like
those are the times to be together and
eat dinner and just kind of like crazy
so um
But yeah,
I would say planning is a big thing.
Like my calendar,
I have the littlest stuff on my like
stuff that probably you don't really need
on your calendar.
I just have it so I can visually
see how my day is going to go
because I have bus drop off.
I pick up for nap time.
I have to put him down for the
nap.
Then I have to pick up from the
bus stop.
And then I have my nighttime hours where
I work on like marketing things.
And then I have all the in-between
meetings.
So I'm just kind of overloading you with
because it is kind of chaotic.
it's but that organization allows you to
be successful and it's proven that that
that's working and uh i'm sure it's a
ever-changing process but you're obviously
navigating it in a in a fantastic way
it seems um i mean every time i've
talked to you if you are cool calm
collected and everything's you know under
But it's awesome to have a good support
staff from the work side and from your
husband and other support people,
and then being able to give that back
too, right?
Yeah, and asking for help.
I think that's the biggest thing,
getting that support system in place and
just asking for help.
delegating the things and not feeling like
you have to do it all.
Cause there's times where I'm like,
Oh man, I just,
I wish I could just do all of
this, but I'm like, no,
he can do this thing.
These things for me.
I can ask my mom for help or
I can ask the babysitter.
Like it's just kind of delegating.
So let me ask you,
what do you think the best non-automotive
lesson you've brought into your work in
the parts world would be?
Oh my gosh.
Did you tell me you were going to
ask me that question?
That was, that's hard.
Did you just think of this question?
No, it's all off the cuff.
Of course it's on the list.
It's on the show sheet.
You're not supposed to tell everybody how
this works.
I did ask.
I clearly forgot about that question.
That's a really good question.
So re-ask me it so I can actually
think about a good response.
So what is the best non-automotive lesson
that you brought into your work in the
parts world?
Non automotive lesson,
maybe something from subway.
I know I'm thinking like, there's,
I guess.
Yeah.
The non automotive lesson.
I just remember, I just, I mean, now,
because I did not prepare for this.
and I don't even know if this is
even valuable,
but I just always remember the owner of
the subway would always say,
the customers are your paycheck.
Like without the customers,
we don't have a business.
And I don't know if that's non-automotive,
but I just feel like that is so
valuable because that's how I always
trained the staff.
And I didn't say that's so blunt to
say it that way, but like,
In reality,
it's like they are paying your paycheck,
like you should be wanting to serve them.
And yeah, a sandwich in a car,
totally different.
But like that,
they're coming there to eat lunch and
they're spending their money on it.
So like,
how would you make the sandwich if you
were eating it kind of thing?
So that's so my non automotive thing off
the cuff because I did not prepare.
So I love that because it's something
that, you know, we talk about.
And honestly, I think that's just
If you're in retail of some sort or
another,
the only way that you stay alive is
by having customers come in and support
your business.
So if they're not coming in,
then the owner doesn't have the money to
write that paycheck.
So yeah, I love that.
kind of like the golden rule, right?
So treat others the way that you'd want
to be treated.
So make it the way, you know,
make it the way that you would want.
Younger, you know, I mean,
I was part of that,
but like high school kids work, you know,
you kind of have to teach them those
things.
Yeah.
Um,
so I'm going to catch you off guard
again and ask, uh,
so you get one superpower.
one superpower that you get to use in
a parts department.
What do you think it is and how
do you use it?
If I could have one superpower,
what should their superpower be?
Or what's the question?
Well, you get one superpower,
but I guess you could give it to
one of the parts managers so that they
could use it.
But what's a superpower to use in a
dealership parts department?
And what is it and how do you
use it?
I mean,
kind of part of that is one of
those superpowers is parts edge, yes?
Yeah,
but I don't want to plug parts edge.
But yeah.
it if it's a superpower it's it is
a superpower do you think that there's
something within the superpower that you
could use that would allow you to make
it a even bigger superpower so you know
the parts edge or or something else that
they would be able to uh to maximize
it even further
um i would say a superpower would be
like for i'm just it's such a hard
question i'm like why are you floating
with these questions come on man i gave
you three weeks i know you gave me
time i'm obviously i'm not very good at
preparing um i think that this a
superpower would be um
actually using the tools, the service,
I think that's the superpower.
It's not completely set it and forget it.
It obviously works in the background and
you don't have to think that much.
You don't have to think to get it
to work.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Because that's a lot of times with
technology and tools.
It's like you have to think to make
it work.
I'm like repeating myself,
but I think the superpower would be
just to actually use the tool.
Yeah.
Use the resources.
That's not really like a superpower.
I thought you were going to ask me
like actually like a superpower in the
world.
Like what could my superpower be?
I'm like, that's easy.
I can answer that.
Well, do it.
What's your superpower?
Well, what's not, what is my superpower?
What would my superpower be?
Like, what would I like to have?
Now I'm like,
really want to answer this really good i
would i don't know if this is cool
but like i would really like to i
don't know if i want to go back
in time to change things i don't want
to go back in time and change things
but it would be nice to go back
in time to to learn a little bit
better like i feel like you can remember
things and learn from them but if you
could actually physically go back to that
time and then really learn from things i
like that
I don't know.
That would be kind of interesting.
Or be able to go back and impose
what you've learned now into that time,
maybe.
Yeah, but then that would be changing it.
And I don't ever want to go back
and change things because that's how we
learn.
And that's how we grow.
But I think...
To go back in time would be to
slow down,
like to go back and experience those
moments.
And you can learn something different from
experiencing it by not being there,
but going back.
That's really confusing.
No, it makes sense.
So do you think that...
hard one for you because from the AI
side,
do you see automation and talent
development reshaping?
So the AI side of the world,
do you see it reshaping how parts
departments are being run or will be run
in the next
Absolutely.
I think we would be stupid not to
look at how we can use AI in
the parts department.
It's all data, and it's all efficient.
Isn't that what AI does?
It looks at the data and makes you
more efficient.
So I don't know.
I think it would be we're using it
in ways to translate the data.
Yeah.
And,
and we're really looking at more ways to
just make it just better.
You just like,
you're spending way too much time
understanding what's actually going on
when it could just show you and then
you can.
Yeah, I agree.
I think, uh,
I think there's a lot that can be
done in the cards department, uh,
for sure.
And things that are being looked at.
And, um,
I know you guys are using it for
sure.
And, and, um,
to help, but you're right.
I think everything that we can do to
provide more time for us to do what
we're great at,
which is to be talking to people and
communicating with people and coming up
with new ideas to make us better,
all in for.
I think that's obvious.
And I know you are too.
All right, so last one.
And maybe you're prepared,
maybe you're not.
But if you could have lunch with any
historical figure or anybody,
if you could have lunch with anybody
inside or outside of automotive,
who would you like to have lunch with?
Well,
the first person that comes to mind is
not really, like, historical.
I would love to have lunch with my
dad because he's passed away.
So that would be really cool to have
lunch with him again.
I'm not sure if I would, like,
learn a bunch of things.
Because, like,
when you think historical person,
you're like, man,
it would be so cool to, like,
I don't know, sit down with, like,
Buddha or something, like,
really crazy and just, like...
then like really ask them questions.
But like, I don't know.
It'd be really cool to have lunch with
my dad because he's been gone for eight,
seven years.
I don't know.
seven years i think you had to say
it out loud too long too long yeah
so it'd be really cool to go like
because i do think though now that i'm
like talking out loud i do think when
you pass um you get a different
perspective like you're there you're
you're living like your perspective isn't
like when we're on earth living if that
makes sense so i think um
It would be really cool to have lunch
with him to get some answers and
perspectives.
And I actually have had some experience
with him telling me in my dreams like
what it's like.
But I don't I remember in that moment,
but I don't remember in like the waking
life.
So I feel like we're really not supposed
to know.
So.
It's kind of a conversation.
I think that's super cool that you can
feel him and still be guided through that
channel.
Man, that's awesome.
I mean, I see spots where, like,
my grandfather and then my grandmother,
like, the cardinal show up or, you know,
I'll hear change jingling,
which would be my grandfather.
That's so cool.
You know,
I kind of know that they're there and
that they're watching over me.
But to know that you're getting that
guidance and giving you kind of a snapshot
of what's going on,
even though maybe we're not supposed to
have it.
Daddy's a little girl, right?
It's just the way it goes.
Yeah.
Man, what a way to close.
That was... Just bam, there you go.
Yeah.
I do think losing him and just to
kind of like close,
close the losing him gave and there was
a couple other people in my family close
to me that I lost in that same
time period.
I think that really gave me that push
and that perspective to really kind of
like grow and to where
And I feel like I really got some
guidance,
whether you believe in it or not.
I just feel like I was guided in
so many ways that got me to where
I am now.
And I'm,
I feel like I'm just getting started and
I didn't even feel like,
or realize I could even get here.
Yeah.
I, um, I love that.
Um, and I know, um, you know,
from knowing you for a little while now
and, and, uh,
you know, getting to know you and, and,
you know, becoming friends, um, that you,
you are just getting started, right?
It's, it's, uh,
you've got a long way to go and,
and, uh,
a lot of things that you're going to
bring positive to this industry and to
life in general.
Um,
and I'm excited to be any small part
of it that I can be.
So, um,
I look forward to way more conversations
and seeing you on the shows every once
in a while at night when
Thank you for a super fun show.
And I appreciate your time and everything
that you bring to the table always.
And we'll do this again soon, I hope.
Yeah, thanks for having me.
It was really great.
Absolutely.