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Five years over cyber
Monday is done for everyone.

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Who's concerned about missing out
on any deals as the holiday season

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comes up through the silver core club
member member, 100 percent off of all

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silver core branded online courses.

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And 10 percent off all of Silvercore
branded merchandise and free shipping.

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And let's not forget about all of
the other fantastic discounts and

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deals that you can get by just
being a Silvercore Club member.

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For example, Arbamit Technology,
Tenebrex, SAI, Tangent Theta, you get 20

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percent off of Tenebrex scope covers and
accessories, 15 percent off of all SAI

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optics, Tangent Theta, 10 percent off.

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Between SAI, Tangent Theta, and depending
on your purchases with Tenebrex,

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that more than pays for a Silvercore
Club membership many times over.

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BearWatch Systems.

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Can Tech Gunworks.

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Combat flip flops, 25 percent
off of all of their gear.

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DS Tactical, Phoenix, Fortnite Optics,
15 percent off of all of their eyewear.

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Again, pays for your club membership.

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Frontiersman gear, gear pack,
rail, iHunter, international

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barrels, marathon watches, 10
percent off of their watches again.

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Pays for a club membership.

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Marks, perfect for shopping for everyone
in your family and your friends.

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Nanook, you missed out on their deals.

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They had over Black Friday, Cyber Monday.

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You get 30 percent off
of all of their products.

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It's amazing.

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Reliable guns, splendid
bastard beard supplies.

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I'm wearing their product right now.

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Stover Canada, 25 percent off of
all regularly priced clothing, 10

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percent off of everything else.

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Stuffers Supply Company, SRS Tactical.

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They're the ones that carry those SWATCOM
hearing protection I use for my hunting.

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I use them on the range, or fishing.

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Amazing.

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This is coffee.

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20 percent off of their products.

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What an amazing stocking stuffer.

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Training division, 295 off if
you're taking courses with them.

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They do firefighter training, NFPA,
Firefighter 1, Firefighter 2, Veritac.

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And, you know, this also leads
up to the most recent Silvercore

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Club Disco that you get.

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If you follow the social media or watch
our YouTube, I'm sure you've already seen

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the video that I put together on that one.

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It's with Alpine Lakes Air.

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They're offering Silvercore Club members
10 percent off of all of their flights

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out of their Vancouver location for 2025.

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They have an amphibious plane,
they can take off from land, they

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can take off from water, they
can land on land, land on water.

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I mean, they've got you covered.

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If you want to explore remote areas of
British Columbia, and if you want to

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save time, get a few friends together,
hop in a plane, what could take 11

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hours by car, you're now there in one
hour, enjoying pristine wilderness.

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And it's really interesting
how this discount came to be.

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I'd sharpened the kitchen knives,
and I forgot to tell my family

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members that I'd done so, and my
daughter cut her hand pretty good.

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She required a number of stitches.

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As I was waiting in the hospital, I
was talking to the fellow beside me.

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Turned out he's a pilot.

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He'd hit his head on one
of the wings in the hangar.

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And the company said, go
get yourself checked out.

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You know, cover our bases.

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We're talking for a while.

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Turned out we had some similar interests.

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We enjoy doing the same things.

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He's a Silvercore club member.

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He reached out to me later on and said,
look, I'm involved with Alpine Lakes Air.

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I can see great value to the members.

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Anybody looking to get out into remote
wilderness areas, here's the deal that

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we'd like to be able to extend to them.

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What's interesting about that to me is
how these tiny little interactions that

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we have on the day to day basis that
to me grow into something like this.

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We never know who it is
we might be talking with.

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We never know what they
might be going through.

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I think this is a very important
reminder as we move into the holiday

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season, as traffic gets heavier, as the
shopping malls get packed, as people

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tend to get caught up in the emotion
and the commotion to remember that how

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we do anything is how we do everything.

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If we take care of those little
pieces in our life, how we interact

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with other people, because so often
people don't see the world as it is.

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They see the world as they are.

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And what I mean by that is if they come
into their day and they're aggravated,

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that they're short tempered, if
they're in a rush, you're going to

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see the world under that same light.

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And if you can take a deep breath
and a bit of a step back and remember

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that we're always under a spotlight
and our actions do have consequences,

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we might just find that we're able
to make somebody else's day better.

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In this case, sitting in a hospital,
in a place where people are already

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short tempered, not feeling well,
injured, waiting a long time.

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If you know Canadian hospitals, you'll
know you're waiting for a while.

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And it could be so easy to approach
others with the same indifference and

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short temper that you might be feeling.

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If that was the case here, the
Silvercore club members would never be

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able to experience this opportunity.

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And based on this opportunity, I'm
willing to bet there are going to be some

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club members that go out and experience
Fantastic memories in the remote wild.

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And it all kind of folds back to
these small interactions that are

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had that lead to life changing
events for those around you.

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A bit of a butterfly effect, karma,
however you want to look at it.

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Maybe this is just a gentle reminder to
be kind to yourself and to others as we

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move forward into the holiday season.

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Now, without further ado,
let's get on with this episode.

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I'm joined today by someone who continues
to make waves in the fishing and outdoor

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community, earning the title of best
influencer at the national angling awards.

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She's a passionate advocate for making
the outdoors more inclusive, breaking

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down barriers and adding a touch of
humor to everything she does from fishing

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and hunting adventures to connecting
people with nature in a relatable way.

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She's here to share her journey.

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Welcome to the Silvercore
podcast, Amy Badams.

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Thank you very much, thank you very much.

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Can you like put in a round of applause?

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Yes, I think we probably
should edit that one in there.

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You give me a really
fantastic introduction.

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And all I've done is gone
out and gone fishing.

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No, I wouldn't say that's all you've done.

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At least that's all I've seen.

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And I love that mug by
the way, that's hilarious.

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Thank you very much.

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Uh, anyone who finds offensive
tough, tough, tough luck.

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That was, um, my boat's name.

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So, um, I just kind of went all in
and I, it was C word S E A W A R D.

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And I thought, I don't know
if people are going to get it.

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So I just went all in and it was
like the letter C space word.

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And, uh, just for the double entendre.

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Why not?

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And that was, why not?

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Right.

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That was a little embarrassing when our,
um, MLA member of legislative assembly,

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she says, Hey, Trav, if you want to store
your boat, I've got a slip and no problem.

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And then she's like, okay, so I've
got to take down your information.

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What's your boat name?

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So I'm giving it to her.

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All right.

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Cheeky, she says.

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Classic.

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Yes.

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So.

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I reached out to you and you
left me a very kind message.

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You came back and you said, you know,
congratulations on what you've been doing.

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It's difficult to put yourself out
there and, uh, keep up the good work.

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You're the first person to do that.

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You know, that was, uh, I thought that
was kind of interesting, very kind,

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and maybe a little bit telling too.

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Well, you are human, aren't you?

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Last I checked, I checked.

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Yes.

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I can look at social media and, um, your
setup looks very professional, I must say.

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And, um, it's almost like that
humility goes and then, you know,

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people just comment so, so much.

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So while it's quite vile, sometimes
people's comments are negative or like

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you put a lot of work into something and
someone would just go, oh, that's rubbish.

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It's like, what are you doing?

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Nothing probably.

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But, uh, so yeah, well done, mate.

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Keep it up.

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Well, I appreciate that.

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And I, you know, watching how you navigate
that social scene, you've got a, uh,

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fairly hefty following on social media.

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And you're going to get it all.

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I mean, you're getting
the negative comments.

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You're getting the positive comments.

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Uh, how do you deal with that?

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Terribly.

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I don't look at them now.

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Honestly, I'm like, Oh God.

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Yeah.

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Some of them I'm a bit like, fuck you.

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No.

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Um, and then others, I'm a bit like,
okay, that's, that's, you know, it

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is what it is sort of thing, but now
it used to get to me a little bit.

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And I don't pay it no mind now really,
because I'm not really looking at

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it, but, um, yeah, it's not nice.

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Yeah.

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A friend of mine, uh, April Vokey,
she's got a good following in the fly

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fishing world over here in North America
and, uh, Uh, very passionate voice

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for, uh, for fishing and the outdoors.

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And, uh, she says that YouTube can
have the most vile comments on there

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out of all the different platforms.

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Have you found the same?

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YouTube and Instagram.

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Okay.

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And I'd love to have a chat with
April, cause I'm sure we could share

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some stories probably about the
images we've probably been sent.

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Cause I can't be the only one.

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Some things I don't ask to
see, I don't want to see, I've

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changed my message settings.

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And, uh, it's not, it's a lot of like
sexual comments and stuff like that.

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You must get them.

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Oh, all the time, all the time.

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No, I actually, I don't, I
don't get these sort of things.

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The most that I get is, uh, the most
reoccurring one that I've ever seen

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is people thinking that my voice
sounds like Neil deGrasse Tyson.

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I don't get it.

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I don't hear it.

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I'm going to have to Google it.

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Cause I'll be honest.

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I don't know who that is.

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Yeah.

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He's the, um, like a
physicist or something.

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He's been on the Joe Rogan podcast
and he's got a big name for

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himself doing, um, science stuff.

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So he's, um, yeah, I
don't, I don't hear it.

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I don't have it.

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But, um, so I.

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What really turned me on to you and your
account was your crazy sense of humor.

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It is left field.

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Well, surely I just like go around
thinking everybody probably mostly

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feels the same way that I do.

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They're just not putting it out there.

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And I'm like, such a shame.

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Uh, you know, I'd have to agree with you.

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Most people don't have the courage
to put that out there though.

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Maybe I've got no shame.

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Maybe it's that maybe,
or maybe, I don't know.

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Have you always had this sort
of, um, uh, courage to just put

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yourself out in the way that you do?

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I used to be incredibly shy, like
look at the floor, shy and not be able

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to look at people like growing up.

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And then like, I never really
found like a circle of friends

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that I sort of ever stuck around
with and I never really fit in.

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Um, so.

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It could be quite crushing for
people, um, but for me, I'm

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like, well, if I make myself look
stupid, there's no change there.

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So I'm just going to do the things
that I like doing regardless.

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Mm hmm.

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So long as obviously you're not like being
horrible to anyone, which I don't, but,

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um, yeah, just, just got to go for it.

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Otherwise you'll never live.

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If you worry too much about what
people think or whatever, you

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know, you'll, you'll, you'll
never, you'll never do things.

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You'll always be trapped.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You know, growing up and people say,
well, you know, I didn't fit in, I didn't

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have any friends I didn't, and some
people will look at that and they'll

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take the victim mentality and they'll
say, well, I'm this way now because of

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that, but I don't know, I think it is.

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or not to fit in.

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Every single person on this planet has
something to give that's different.

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Why would you want to try and
cap that to suit other people?

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You have to just, not to sound too
Christian, shine your light, so to speak.

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I've met people that I
never thought I'd ever meet.

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Um, and the me before would have
gone, nah, you know, nah, they're,

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they're not gonna, not gonna
like me or I'm not gonna fit in.

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And sometimes they do, sometimes
they don't, I'll be honest.

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And.

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And even if you don't fit into what, what
their sort of life is, um, I've found

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friends from all sorts of backgrounds that
I'll go and fish with because I've kept

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my mind open, you know, so there's that.

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Yeah.

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And perhaps it's kind of, I look
at it like a superpower, honestly,

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if you've never fallen and you're
at the top of the steps and you're

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looking down and you're afraid of
what it might feel like when you fall.

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You probably won't take that chance
of stepping off, but if you've been

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at the bottom the entire time, you
know what it's like down there.

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And when you say no shame, I don't
know, maybe it's not a no shame

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thing, maybe it's, you just have
less care of what other people think.

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And that's a wonderful thing to have.

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I've got four sisters.

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And, you know, some of them are so self
conscious, my friends as well, and,

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um, especially females, blokes too,
in a sense, they're more testosterone

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driven and like, ooh, you know.

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Yeah, like a false confidence.

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Yeah, and I'm just like, calm down,
babes, calm down, but yeah, um.

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Yeah, I just it went once you get
old and I fishing is a wonderful, a

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wonderful pastime where you can spend
lots of time with incredibly old men.

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Doesn't sound like fun, but you
learn a lot because they tell you all

00:14:18.260 --> 00:14:22.149
these hang ups you have when you're
younger, you know, they're nothing.

00:14:22.500 --> 00:14:22.919
They're nothing.

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Because when you get to the ripe
old age, if you're lucky enough to

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get to the ripe old age of like,
you know, late 60s, 70s, 80s, even.

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Yeah.

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All that stuff doesn't really matter.

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So I'm like taking a leaf out of
their book, trying to take as much

00:14:36.329 --> 00:14:39.880
knowledge from them, because I'm
not actually, you're quite right.

00:14:39.950 --> 00:14:43.100
I don't care what Sally thinks
at work about what I'm wearing.

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I wear what I like.

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I do love that.

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And you know, you're talking about
getting to hang around with old men.

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Uh, and over here, we call it,
um, there's this gout mentality.

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And I asked the guy like
gout, what do you mean gout?

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He said, you know, G O W D,
grumpy old white dudes, right?

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When it comes to hunting
and fishing and that.

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Sometimes they have every
white right to be grumpy.

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Sure.

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If you listen to their life
stories, like you, you, you'd

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have to fucking ump as well.

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You'd be like, oh, fuck this.

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Like you just get the
ump anyone, any young

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Cause everyone's had a life, everyone's
had a life, but it's, it's perhaps

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not the, uh, image that will attract
younger people in who haven't had

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that life, who don't understand the
perspective that they're coming from,

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or people from different ethnicities
or different backgrounds, uh, having

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that, uh, sort of monoculture throughout
might be a difficult barrier to break.

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Did you find that?

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No.

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Really?

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Some people are just ignorant.

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Yeah.

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I'm not here to change the world.

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I've had a few, like, difficult
situations on the bank, whether

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it might be misogyny or someone's
homophobic or this, that, and the other.

00:16:04.890 --> 00:16:05.399
Fair enough.

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Don't like me for my life?

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That's fine.

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Don't try and kill me, though.

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That's different.

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Like, I just, you know, we'll walk
past each other and we won't speak.

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That's fair enough.

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But, um,

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yeah, you just, you just
gotta get on with it.

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I hear You're not going to please all
of the people all of the time, are you?

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No, and he can't, and if you
try, it's a recipe for disaster.

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And most of the time, that's
a slim minority as well.

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Yeah, usually loud, squeaky
wheel vocal, but slim minority.

00:16:35.190 --> 00:16:35.553
Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Met a lot more nicer, nicer
people within the sport.

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If there is anything like negative,

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Um, usually it's, it's the old
grumpy blokes that deal with

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it amongst themselves anyway.

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So can you tell me how
you got into fishing?

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Accidental.

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Okay.

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It's lockdown.

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And I was like, you know what?

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I know a river I used to wade through.

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I'm going to take a fishing rod.

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I'm going to try and see
if I can catch some fish.

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I didn't even know that the
rod I had was a fly rod.

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I just thought all rods were like that.

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Yeah.

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Uh, I went out.

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And I caught chub for the first time.

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And I was like, what the hell is this?

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And then from there, I just went for it.

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I went for it first year.

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I was fishing.

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I didn't even know what a trout was.

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I never caught a trout until a year later.

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And then I was like, who is this?

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And then I was like, mental.

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And I, I tell you a secret.

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I know fly fishermen, they love trout.

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I don't really care about them.

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Yeah.

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How come?

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What fuels you?

00:17:41.610 --> 00:17:44.260
Just like course fish, chub
fish, the things that you

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wouldn't usually, you know.

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Necessarily catch them to fly, because
I suppose I fish, I'm an urban angler,

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so I'm going for the fish that are
readily available to me, pike, you

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know, all of that sort of stuff.

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That's what I like.

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It's a bit unusual, well, me.

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Well, is it the fish?

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Is it the catching of them or is
it the connecting with nature?

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What is it that, uh, uh, That
you're really into at the moment.

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All of it.

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All of it.

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If I, if I liked going through the
different species, once I knew there

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was more than one type of fish,

00:18:21.274 --> 00:18:23.204
there's more, how do they feed?

00:18:23.664 --> 00:18:26.835
How can I get a fly to where they're,
they're sitting in the river?

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How can I find them?

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What was the best way to go?

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Um, All of it.

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Every single part of it.

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I, I love it.

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And, and the way that nature changes
a river throughout the year is

00:18:38.040 --> 00:18:40.650
incredible because it's never ending.

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One summer you'll have a, I
don't know, a clear river, it's

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running through, no barriers.

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Next thing you know, bam, you've got
habitat because a tree's fallen in.

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That creates more light.

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Different things are happening.

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It's just truly it's nature's playground.

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And I love it.

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Here in Canada, we got something
called crown land, which is the

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majority of the property than
the land that we have out here.

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Anyone can go and hunt and fish on it.

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You just have your license and
make sure that you're good to go.

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Um, what's it like, uh, what's it
like over in your neck of the woods?

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You wanted to get me down, didn't you?

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And depress me.

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You know, it's not accessible where I am.

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Here in the Great Britain, it's
uh, it's uh, it's private land,

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everything's private land.

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And the best premium fishing spots are
owned by rather posh people in Twyr,

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and it'll cost you in excess of three
hundred pounds to fish for a day in

00:19:40.485 --> 00:19:46.294
some of these places, and, and, it's
stocked, so it's not even that difficult.

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It's not even that good fishing.

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Um, you know, and they, they could do
a lot more habitat work on the river

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and just have native browns in there.

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But because we've got such an issue
with pollution and agricultural runoff,

00:20:00.600 --> 00:20:05.480
they'd rather do a quick fix instead
of actually tackling the industries

00:20:05.489 --> 00:20:06.620
that are polluting our rivers.

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And that's what annoys me because
they make a hell of a lot of these

00:20:09.420 --> 00:20:15.660
private, um, chalk stream, uh,
owners and they don't use it for.

00:20:16.025 --> 00:20:20.415
The good and people can't access it.

00:20:20.615 --> 00:20:22.525
And maybe that was a bit
of a baited question.

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Cause it leads into a couple of things.

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Cause you've had some advocacy work
that you've been doing for just

00:20:27.225 --> 00:20:28.695
that and cleaning up the streams.

00:20:29.075 --> 00:20:30.755
Yes, very important.

00:20:30.955 --> 00:20:31.215
Yes.

00:20:31.295 --> 00:20:37.115
Now on the marches, uh, I do my bit for
the local river, the River Wandal, um,

00:20:37.215 --> 00:20:41.215
I'm part of something called the VBS,
which is the voluntary bailiff scheme with

00:20:41.235 --> 00:20:47.054
the Angling Trust, who is our national
governing body for fishing in the UK.

00:20:47.175 --> 00:20:50.114
Um, so when the lockdown happened
and they were saying, no, you can't

00:20:50.114 --> 00:20:51.594
go fishing, you can't go fishing.

00:20:51.604 --> 00:20:55.665
They For, for us to be able to fish
during lockdown, because it's a singular

00:20:55.675 --> 00:20:57.394
sport and you don't mix with anyone.

00:20:57.394 --> 00:21:00.064
And so those guys, they're,
they're incredible.

00:21:00.825 --> 00:21:02.864
I mean, you've put out
some videos as well.

00:21:02.885 --> 00:21:03.395
I love them.

00:21:03.405 --> 00:21:07.985
You got, uh, I don't know where you,
do you have a background in animating?

00:21:07.985 --> 00:21:09.295
Do you have a background in singing?

00:21:09.295 --> 00:21:13.315
Because you pick these hilarious videos
where you animate stuff over it and you're

00:21:13.315 --> 00:21:15.255
singing to it, or are you just winging it?

00:21:15.904 --> 00:21:17.645
I wing it so much.

00:21:17.864 --> 00:21:22.925
I literally, I got, I got a MacBook
as a gift, buy now pay forever.

00:21:22.925 --> 00:21:23.835
I've paid off for it.

00:21:23.895 --> 00:21:25.355
I thought I'm going to invest in myself.

00:21:25.355 --> 00:21:28.484
And I've got some mics, which
aren't working on this podcast.

00:21:28.484 --> 00:21:28.874
Sorry.

00:21:29.194 --> 00:21:34.844
Um, and I downloaded final cut
pro for a one off price because I

00:21:34.844 --> 00:21:36.435
can't afford monthly installments.

00:21:36.835 --> 00:21:38.279
And then I just thought, you know what?

00:21:38.660 --> 00:21:39.990
I'll learn how to do this.

00:21:40.220 --> 00:21:42.430
Done a few YouTube tutorials.

00:21:42.760 --> 00:21:43.730
Here we are today.

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That's crazy.

00:21:44.390 --> 00:21:45.620
You do all your own editing.

00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:46.260
Yes.

00:21:47.410 --> 00:21:47.630
Yeah.

00:21:47.630 --> 00:21:55.400
That's, uh, you know, back in 2017, 2018,
I looked at making videos as witchcraft.

00:21:55.770 --> 00:21:58.130
I didn't know how people
actually put this stuff together.

00:21:58.960 --> 00:22:02.560
But YouTube got on there and I said,
I'm going to try and figure this out.

00:22:02.590 --> 00:22:06.030
And we've, I've got a school,
we get education pricing

00:22:06.030 --> 00:22:07.510
discount on the Adobe thing.

00:22:07.510 --> 00:22:08.470
I tried final cut.

00:22:08.519 --> 00:22:09.409
It's amazing.

00:22:09.720 --> 00:22:13.130
But everybody that I was talking,
yeah, everyone I was talking to

00:22:13.130 --> 00:22:16.919
used a premier pro and they're like,
Oh, you got to get on premier pro.

00:22:16.919 --> 00:22:20.310
And now that I'm stuck in the
ecosystem, because he had to learn,

00:22:20.389 --> 00:22:24.730
Oh, addition, premier pro after
effects, all the, all the other

00:22:24.730 --> 00:22:26.210
little things that go along with it.

00:22:26.210 --> 00:22:26.330
Okay.

00:22:26.424 --> 00:22:32.274
So, uh, I either learn a new system
like DaVinci Resolve, or I just

00:22:32.274 --> 00:22:36.225
keep plugging along with this and
play in the Black Friday deals

00:22:36.225 --> 00:22:37.645
like, uh, like I did yesterday.

00:22:38.085 --> 00:22:38.355
Yeah.

00:22:38.385 --> 00:22:40.594
Stick to what you know,
you'll be all right, mate.

00:22:41.004 --> 00:22:43.589
So can I ask you a question?

00:22:43.589 --> 00:22:48.875
You can just freely go out and just
like hunt your own dinner if you wanted.

00:22:49.804 --> 00:22:50.074
Yeah.

00:22:50.074 --> 00:22:51.084
During hunting season.

00:22:51.284 --> 00:22:52.024
And.

00:22:52.300 --> 00:22:57.399
So what we have is we'll have
GOS, which is general open season.

00:22:57.820 --> 00:23:02.970
And then we've got, um, LEH,
which is limited entry hunting.

00:23:03.340 --> 00:23:07.099
So under the general open season,
you can take a look at the

00:23:07.099 --> 00:23:10.449
regulations and say, here's all
the animals I'm allowed to hunt.

00:23:10.940 --> 00:23:13.050
Uh, here's how many I'm allowed to take.

00:23:14.040 --> 00:23:19.080
You've got your hunting license and you
purchase a species tag and you can keep

00:23:19.325 --> 00:23:23.375
Buying species tags and filling them
up until you've reached your limit.

00:23:24.075 --> 00:23:25.765
You're good to go in certain areas.

00:23:25.795 --> 00:23:28.845
They're going to say, well, you know,
it's a little bit tougher over here.

00:23:28.845 --> 00:23:30.015
There's not as many animals.

00:23:30.330 --> 00:23:33.270
We're going to have a lottery
and this is your limited entry.

00:23:33.270 --> 00:23:35.590
So everyone pay us some
money, put a lottery in.

00:23:35.590 --> 00:23:37.850
And if you win it, great,
you get to hunt there.

00:23:37.850 --> 00:23:38.760
And maybe you're lucky.

00:23:38.760 --> 00:23:39.350
Maybe you're not.

00:23:39.570 --> 00:23:41.660
That's in a nutshell,
how it works over here.

00:23:41.660 --> 00:23:44.322
Yes, I think so.

00:23:44.322 --> 00:23:46.659
I think that's fantastic.

00:23:46.659 --> 00:23:47.789
That's accessible then.

00:23:47.809 --> 00:23:49.320
And you're not overdoing it.

00:23:49.710 --> 00:23:53.690
The point where you're, you
know, culling basically, or,

00:23:54.145 --> 00:23:55.595
Taking away too many animals.

00:23:55.605 --> 00:23:59.564
So yeah, you know, there's, there's always
going to be better ways to do it and it's

00:23:59.564 --> 00:24:05.655
going to have us detractors and, uh, they
say it's trite, uh, it's based on science

00:24:05.655 --> 00:24:07.455
and they get biologists to look at it.

00:24:07.455 --> 00:24:10.814
And, but there's also politics that play
a role and there's going to be people

00:24:10.814 --> 00:24:14.534
that have, uh, uh, votes and opinions.

00:24:14.715 --> 00:24:16.054
So it's not perfect.

00:24:16.304 --> 00:24:17.415
Right now, our government.

00:24:18.310 --> 00:24:21.200
I'll try and take away
the land from our farmers.

00:24:21.320 --> 00:24:25.469
Get that through tax,
through inheritance tax.

00:24:25.789 --> 00:24:29.499
So our farmers, they're not financially
rich, but they're rich in land.

00:24:30.139 --> 00:24:34.769
And to pass down your farm, if you're a
farmer, they're now going to charge the

00:24:34.769 --> 00:24:39.440
children inheritance tax, which will leave
them practically broke to the point where

00:24:39.440 --> 00:24:43.319
they'll have to sell the land because
they're asset rich, not money rich.

00:24:43.910 --> 00:24:45.700
And then what's going to
happen to our greenbelt?

00:24:46.060 --> 00:24:47.100
They're going to take it away.

00:24:47.289 --> 00:24:48.530
How long has that been going on for?

00:24:48.855 --> 00:24:52.175
That's, that's currently just started
under our new government, which is

00:24:54.235 --> 00:24:55.065
awful really.

00:24:55.245 --> 00:24:58.665
So like support the farmers,
wherever you are, always support

00:24:58.705 --> 00:25:00.255
the people that feed you.

00:25:00.575 --> 00:25:02.765
Uh, yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

00:25:02.934 --> 00:25:04.654
Uh, I, I didn't actually know that.

00:25:05.164 --> 00:25:06.235
Well, now you do.

00:25:06.315 --> 00:25:06.924
Now I do.

00:25:06.934 --> 00:25:07.395
It's horrible.

00:25:07.425 --> 00:25:08.055
Yeah, it is.

00:25:08.095 --> 00:25:12.274
I mean, even just getting the hunt
as a, just as a member of the public,

00:25:13.174 --> 00:25:17.764
you'd have to have, um, a permission
from a landowner, which is, you

00:25:17.764 --> 00:25:19.625
know, really difficult to get anyway.

00:25:19.985 --> 00:25:22.005
But it, you can't, it's, it's there.

00:25:22.045 --> 00:25:25.945
Like I've started hunting, um,
and I've, I've gone for the

00:25:25.945 --> 00:25:27.674
deer and the rabbit so far.

00:25:28.514 --> 00:25:30.375
So I've sort of found my own access.

00:25:30.375 --> 00:25:31.465
So it's possible.

00:25:32.015 --> 00:25:36.925
Talk me through that because you, you
guys aren't known for being a place

00:25:36.925 --> 00:25:44.115
that's abundant in firearms, uh, your
hunting has always been something that

00:25:44.125 --> 00:25:47.665
from an outsider's perspective is for
the really rich and posh individuals.

00:25:48.194 --> 00:25:51.655
Um, how, just like you, there you go.

00:25:52.195 --> 00:25:53.505
Uh, how'd you get into this?

00:25:54.415 --> 00:25:56.154
Well, I went on Google, didn't I?

00:25:57.195 --> 00:26:00.745
So I was tying in my tying room,
and I had a rabbit's face, and

00:26:00.745 --> 00:26:02.035
I'm tying a hare's ear nymph.

00:26:02.115 --> 00:26:04.804
So I was like, I could just
go off and shoot a rabbit.

00:26:05.335 --> 00:26:07.104
Well, I went down a literal rabbit hole.

00:26:07.105 --> 00:26:09.375
Not a literal rabbit hole, because
I'm too big to get down one of them.

00:26:09.455 --> 00:26:09.835
Anyways.

00:26:11.350 --> 00:26:13.130
Um, I was like, well,
how do I go about this?

00:26:13.130 --> 00:26:16.790
I've got insurance for an air rifle
with the British Association of

00:26:16.790 --> 00:26:19.909
Shooting and Conservation, and they
have lots of different like women's

00:26:19.909 --> 00:26:23.909
days and other days that you can go
and actually shoot firearms legally.

00:26:24.250 --> 00:26:28.130
It's all above board, and they're,
they've got an abundance of knowledge

00:26:28.139 --> 00:26:30.170
about hunting and all sorts of stuff.

00:26:30.730 --> 00:26:35.450
Um, I joined a local rifle club to
practice with the air rifle because I

00:26:35.450 --> 00:26:39.090
thought I'm not just going to go out
And start popping away, because I'm

00:26:39.090 --> 00:26:42.300
not, not nowhere competent enough.

00:26:42.879 --> 00:26:47.859
Um, and then, yeah, practice,
practice, got a permission from a

00:26:47.860 --> 00:26:51.060
good friend called Steve, and he owns
a fishery, Churchwoods Fisheries.

00:26:51.060 --> 00:26:55.459
You can fish for catfish,
like, like that, in his lake.

00:26:55.460 --> 00:26:55.490
Cool!

00:26:56.395 --> 00:26:56.845
Massive.

00:26:56.845 --> 00:26:57.225
Cool.

00:26:57.395 --> 00:27:00.885
Um, and I went out for a day and I
successfully shot my first rabbit,

00:27:01.075 --> 00:27:06.455
cooked it up, I've got the fur, um,
and then I got a few invites for deer

00:27:06.775 --> 00:27:10.835
and I went out and I went with someone
who's got a licensed firearm and

00:27:10.845 --> 00:27:16.154
he's a game keeper and I successfully
shot my first Chinese water deer.

00:27:16.875 --> 00:27:20.985
And it's a bit of like just a real
experience if you've grown up on

00:27:21.024 --> 00:27:25.665
packaged meat and have absolutely
no association, you're disassociated

00:27:25.695 --> 00:27:26.945
that it's even been alive.

00:27:27.725 --> 00:27:33.235
To now, you know, killing, butchering,
and then preparing and cooking meat.

00:27:34.225 --> 00:27:35.865
It spun me right round.

00:27:36.405 --> 00:27:38.545
What did your family and
friends think about this?

00:27:38.715 --> 00:27:41.155
Cause this little departure
from where you were at before.

00:27:42.035 --> 00:27:42.284
My mum.

00:27:42.285 --> 00:27:46.304
My mum was like, I never
brought you up to kill animals.

00:27:46.315 --> 00:27:47.334
And I was like, excuse me?

00:27:47.365 --> 00:27:49.755
And she was like putting
a leg of lamb in the oven.

00:27:49.815 --> 00:27:53.745
And I was like, And then she
was like, but I am proud of you.

00:27:53.745 --> 00:27:56.455
And I was like, I don't know how
you really feel then, you know.

00:27:56.835 --> 00:27:59.005
Um, my dad's quite proud of me.

00:27:59.075 --> 00:28:01.564
And, um, people have been alright.

00:28:01.564 --> 00:28:03.955
Some people have a problem with
it because it's like, oh no,

00:28:03.955 --> 00:28:05.115
you know, the poor animals.

00:28:05.125 --> 00:28:09.915
And I'm like, yeah, but you, you eat a
burger and you don't think twice about it.

00:28:10.650 --> 00:28:14.300
About the animal's welfare, and
if anything, it's made me more

00:28:14.300 --> 00:28:16.220
responsible with the meat I'm consuming.

00:28:16.220 --> 00:28:19.730
I won't just buy any old rubbish,
because I'm not, I, I probably

00:28:19.730 --> 00:28:21.240
know how that animal's been reared.

00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:25.549
Like, you know if you go to like, we've
got like dirty chicken shops in the UK.

00:28:25.550 --> 00:28:26.145
Sure, yeah.

00:28:26.145 --> 00:28:30.520
And farms where the chickens come from,
they're like battery farm chickens.

00:28:30.520 --> 00:28:31.940
They've had no natural light.

00:28:31.950 --> 00:28:33.260
They've just been pumped and pumped.

00:28:33.260 --> 00:28:34.200
I'm like, I'm not eating any of that.

00:28:34.580 --> 00:28:36.890
I'm not eating any of that,
but I do have a dialogue.

00:28:38.630 --> 00:28:40.550
I don't know what to do
with the rabbit first.

00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:43.489
I think it's too nice
to use a tie in stuff.

00:28:43.900 --> 00:28:47.100
So I'm thinking about making
a little collar on my clothes.

00:28:47.139 --> 00:28:48.740
Maybe just a little neck warmth.

00:28:48.749 --> 00:28:49.850
Yeah, that'd be cool.

00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:50.890
Yeah.

00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:54.464
If you've canned them, they're all,
yeah, that'd be a neat way to use it.

00:28:55.614 --> 00:28:57.475
Make a rabbit gloves or something.

00:28:57.475 --> 00:29:01.867
I don't want to get beaten up
by like, anti, anti fur people.

00:29:01.867 --> 00:29:06.597
I don't hear that much anymore of
that, but then again, you don't see

00:29:06.597 --> 00:29:08.625
people wearing fur that much anymore.

00:29:08.625 --> 00:29:10.652
We've been bullied out of it.

00:29:10.652 --> 00:29:11.666
I guess so.

00:29:11.666 --> 00:29:12.004
Yeah.

00:29:12.004 --> 00:29:12.679
Um, yeah.

00:29:14.850 --> 00:29:16.020
I mean, what would they prefer?

00:29:16.620 --> 00:29:17.730
The animal's dead now.

00:29:17.780 --> 00:29:19.719
Should it just be trashed?

00:29:19.929 --> 00:29:20.399
Yeah.

00:29:20.770 --> 00:29:21.250
I don't know.

00:29:21.889 --> 00:29:26.330
Um, so you only follow one
person on Instagram, Susan Boyle.

00:29:27.770 --> 00:29:28.889
Why is that?

00:29:29.100 --> 00:29:30.469
That's awesome, by the way.

00:29:30.979 --> 00:29:33.190
She's just so neutral, isn't she?

00:29:33.550 --> 00:29:33.769
Yeah.

00:29:33.769 --> 00:29:34.809
She's, uh, she's.

00:29:36.159 --> 00:29:37.840
I had an issue with people, yeah?

00:29:37.840 --> 00:29:38.399
So like,

00:29:40.690 --> 00:29:41.510
here's the truth.

00:29:42.020 --> 00:29:44.590
I, I used to scroll on social media.

00:29:45.040 --> 00:29:48.330
And like, sometimes, you know, you see
people, and they put their Sunday dinner

00:29:48.330 --> 00:29:51.970
up, or like, you know, put something up,
and you're like, God, I find that boring.

00:29:51.970 --> 00:29:54.039
So you'd unfollow, because you're
like, you know, I just want to

00:29:54.040 --> 00:29:55.379
see Fitch, or whatever it is.

00:29:56.750 --> 00:29:59.260
Then I get a message, Oh, why
have you stopped following me?

00:29:59.700 --> 00:30:01.640
As something happened, don't you like me?

00:30:01.640 --> 00:30:02.573
And I'm like, what?

00:30:02.573 --> 00:30:03.470
I'm like, no, it's fine.

00:30:03.470 --> 00:30:07.670
I just like, just don't want to
see people get, take it personal.

00:30:09.420 --> 00:30:09.690
Got it.

00:30:09.780 --> 00:30:10.719
Take it personal.

00:30:11.459 --> 00:30:11.920
Got it.

00:30:12.469 --> 00:30:12.779
Yeah.

00:30:12.790 --> 00:30:13.590
I had like, yeah.

00:30:13.590 --> 00:30:15.429
Back and forth with someone about, yeah.

00:30:15.460 --> 00:30:17.600
I don't want to go into it
because it's just rubbish.

00:30:17.630 --> 00:30:19.239
But in the end I was just like, fuck this.

00:30:19.239 --> 00:30:20.420
I'm not going to follow anyone.

00:30:21.040 --> 00:30:22.960
But Instagram makes you follow.

00:30:23.850 --> 00:30:25.060
At least like one person.

00:30:25.060 --> 00:30:26.810
So I was like, well, who
am I going to choose?

00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:29.090
Ah, makes sense.

00:30:30.270 --> 00:30:33.550
I figured you were specifically
curating your feed.

00:30:33.630 --> 00:30:37.320
And right now you had Susan Boyle and
you're waiting for the next person so

00:30:37.320 --> 00:30:41.099
that anything that pops up is going
to be very specifically curated.

00:30:41.590 --> 00:30:43.420
Nah, just, just cause she's just.

00:30:44.225 --> 00:30:45.335
Susan Boyle in it.

00:30:47.685 --> 00:30:52.005
Um, so you were in the news recently.

00:30:52.045 --> 00:30:57.195
Um, the London fly fishers
club saw something about that.

00:30:57.315 --> 00:30:58.825
Can you tell me about this?

00:30:59.385 --> 00:31:05.755
Well, again, it's not
strictly a gentleman's club.

00:31:06.134 --> 00:31:09.275
It's an age old, old fly anglers club.

00:31:09.660 --> 00:31:14.350
for fly angling enthusiasts, you know,
people that want to share knowledge,

00:31:14.420 --> 00:31:16.130
permissions and all this sort of stuff.

00:31:16.570 --> 00:31:22.500
Um, so it doesn't have any fishable
waters, however, the members that

00:31:22.509 --> 00:31:26.829
attend own the rights to some of the
pristine chalk streams in the UK, the

00:31:26.829 --> 00:31:29.119
ones that the likes of myself own.

00:31:30.550 --> 00:31:33.410
Well, I can get access to them now
because I've done a lot of networking,

00:31:33.410 --> 00:31:36.400
but your average Joe won't get access
unless they know someone who knows

00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:37.880
someone or they're filthy rich.

00:31:38.450 --> 00:31:38.980
Mm hmm.

00:31:39.250 --> 00:31:44.770
Um, it's an institution and their fly
fishing library, I think it's like

00:31:44.810 --> 00:31:46.410
one of the top five in the world.

00:31:47.320 --> 00:31:50.059
I think a couple of your presidents
have tied some flies there and

00:31:50.059 --> 00:31:51.250
they're on the mantelpiece.

00:31:51.690 --> 00:31:53.230
Wow, that's pretty cool.

00:31:53.740 --> 00:31:54.040
No.

00:31:54.900 --> 00:31:56.470
You're kind of, you're Canadian, isn't it?

00:31:57.210 --> 00:31:57.480
Yeah.

00:31:57.480 --> 00:31:59.130
So it'd be prime minister, but yeah.

00:31:59.690 --> 00:32:01.010
No, I meant the American ones.

00:32:01.010 --> 00:32:05.360
Yeah, I got it.

00:32:06.650 --> 00:32:06.910
Yeah.

00:32:06.910 --> 00:32:07.099
Yeah.

00:32:07.099 --> 00:32:07.750
We got it.

00:32:08.980 --> 00:32:09.279
Yeah.

00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:09.849
So yeah.

00:32:09.909 --> 00:32:12.039
Um, I've wrote to them.

00:32:12.645 --> 00:32:16.215
Years ago when I first started because I
just really wanted to see the library So

00:32:16.215 --> 00:32:19.055
I've done a handwritten letter and I was
like, look, I don't want to sit in and

00:32:19.055 --> 00:32:24.145
have a brandy and a cigar I said I just
would really love to see the library.

00:32:24.555 --> 00:32:29.165
Just please can I have access, you
know, whatever They never got back to

00:32:29.165 --> 00:32:34.125
me and I thought God so I left them
like a one star Review on Google to

00:32:34.125 --> 00:32:39.135
say well, I won't be going there will
I because I'm a woman There was a lady

00:32:39.135 --> 00:32:43.640
called Lucy Mantle who sort of got the
ball rolling I Because she wrote an

00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:45.250
open letter and put it on Instagram.

00:32:46.930 --> 00:32:51.000
Basically saying, why aren't you
admitting females now in this day and age?

00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:53.830
And I was like, oh my god, I'm not
the only one who cares about this.

00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:55.110
Other people care about it.

00:32:55.140 --> 00:32:57.059
So then I wrote one publicly as well.

00:32:57.070 --> 00:32:59.729
And then Marina wrote one and
other people wrote some stuff.

00:33:00.289 --> 00:33:03.580
And then it sort of got the ball
rolling for them to have the discussion.

00:33:03.580 --> 00:33:06.190
It's been discussed before
and they voted on it before.

00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:13.180
But now Um, they have voted for women
to be admitted to a fly fisher's club.

00:33:13.180 --> 00:33:18.150
However, if you submit an
application, it may take some time.

00:33:21.095 --> 00:33:21.600
Got it, got it.

00:33:21.600 --> 00:33:27.520
But you have to be pro proposed by a
member, and then you have a meeting

00:33:28.030 --> 00:33:31.090
and then you, there's, there's like
an interview and then you have to

00:33:31.090 --> 00:33:32.470
have a second proposal, I think.

00:33:32.470 --> 00:33:34.750
And it's not as expensive
as I thought it was.

00:33:34.750 --> 00:33:38.530
I thought it was thousands of pounds,
but apparently it's about 700 quid.

00:33:39.575 --> 00:33:40.035
Okay.

00:33:40.115 --> 00:33:40.855
I mean, it's sold.

00:33:41.185 --> 00:33:42.635
That's a couple of bucks.

00:33:42.635 --> 00:33:43.275
It's a bit long term.

00:33:43.785 --> 00:33:49.195
Lots of people who aren't happy about it.

00:33:50.395 --> 00:33:56.424
And some people have even said, maybe
it's not a good idea if I was to join.

00:33:56.425 --> 00:33:59.574
And if the other girls was to join,
because if there might be some animosity.

00:34:00.860 --> 00:34:03.140
So I'm like, bring it.

00:34:04.460 --> 00:34:07.210
Yeah, so yeah, what do you punch me?

00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:08.380
I'll duck and weave.

00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:10.360
Yeah, exactly.

00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:11.810
It's a gentleman's.

00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:13.439
Have you been proposed?

00:34:13.900 --> 00:34:19.270
Well, I've asked, um, I've sent a
message to Fergal Sharkey because

00:34:19.270 --> 00:34:21.110
he he's like an 80s pop star.

00:34:22.265 --> 00:34:25.525
Uh, and he's big on Twitter and he's
doing a lot for the water campaigning,

00:34:26.095 --> 00:34:27.335
the clean water campaigning.

00:34:27.345 --> 00:34:30.905
So, uh, he actually wrote to say
that he'd happily propose myself

00:34:30.905 --> 00:34:35.635
and Lucy for membership because he,
he's part of that, that club also.

00:34:36.695 --> 00:34:40.155
Um, so I only just sent that
message like the other day.

00:34:40.845 --> 00:34:44.135
So I'll be waiting for a response
and then I'm going to save.

00:34:44.680 --> 00:34:45.380
Save, save.

00:34:45.380 --> 00:34:48.310
I'm not only, if I can join
it for one year, just so I can

00:34:48.310 --> 00:34:51.090
see that library, you know, um.

00:34:51.100 --> 00:34:52.030
Yeah, that'd be cool.

00:34:52.040 --> 00:34:52.750
I'll do it.

00:34:52.750 --> 00:34:53.330
That'd be cool.

00:34:53.730 --> 00:34:55.060
That's that in a nutshell.

00:34:56.720 --> 00:35:00.020
Did I hear that you dropped out of school?

00:35:00.350 --> 00:35:01.510
That you never finished school.

00:35:01.510 --> 00:35:02.280
Is that correct?

00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:06.790
How'd you, how'd you, how'd you,
where'd you get your information?

00:35:08.100 --> 00:35:09.950
I don't know, a little
here, a little there.

00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:12.280
I did finish school, but, um.

00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:12.540
Did you?

00:35:12.540 --> 00:35:12.780
Okay.

00:35:12.780 --> 00:35:14.800
So I'm getting false information
is what you're saying.

00:35:15.160 --> 00:35:20.290
No, I, I did finish school and
I got some GCSEs, but I didn't

00:35:20.540 --> 00:35:21.950
go into further education.

00:35:21.950 --> 00:35:26.380
So I think I was about 15, 16 and I,
I joined a, well, I went and I worked

00:35:26.380 --> 00:35:33.390
at funfair, um, the gypsy funfairs on
the cup and saucers for a little bit.

00:35:33.879 --> 00:35:36.870
Then I'd done a bit of
dog walking and then 18.

00:35:37.180 --> 00:35:37.510
Okay.

00:35:38.030 --> 00:35:38.510
Yeah.

00:35:39.480 --> 00:35:40.380
I'm not educated.

00:35:40.390 --> 00:35:43.680
It's like, I've not got real,
any form of like education.

00:35:44.155 --> 00:35:44.335
Yeah.

00:35:44.335 --> 00:35:48.085
You know, people sometimes confuse
intelligence with education

00:35:48.165 --> 00:35:52.145
and that's an important thing
not to, uh, to get conflated.

00:35:52.525 --> 00:35:53.405
What's that saying?

00:35:53.835 --> 00:35:58.254
Some people can be educated
beyond their intelligence.

00:35:58.895 --> 00:36:02.015
Oh, I think a lot of people could be
educated beyond their intelligence.

00:36:02.074 --> 00:36:03.924
Like some of our politicians, mate.

00:36:04.874 --> 00:36:06.004
Yes.

00:36:06.024 --> 00:36:07.054
Yes.

00:36:07.344 --> 00:36:12.254
So what was, I'm just curious about, um,

00:36:14.415 --> 00:36:18.475
You've mentioned before that you
believe you are an undiagnosed ADHD.

00:36:18.815 --> 00:36:21.255
Well, it's not my belief, it's
everybody else's around me.

00:36:23.165 --> 00:36:26.635
Well, I don't know, I would have to
probably agree with them a little bit.

00:36:27.015 --> 00:36:34.155
Yeah, I'm gonna go for my diagnosis, cause
um, It just would make, it would help me,

00:36:34.195 --> 00:36:35.805
I think, cope a little bit more with it.

00:36:35.805 --> 00:36:37.475
Cause some things I find a bit
more difficult than others.

00:36:37.475 --> 00:36:41.005
But nowadays, everyone's
getting their ADHD diagnosis.

00:36:41.005 --> 00:36:45.924
And I never wanna be like, Oh, I can't
do things because I, I've got ADHD.

00:36:45.925 --> 00:36:49.054
Or go, Oh, that might be
difficult because I've got ADHD.

00:36:49.055 --> 00:36:51.285
But if I've always had
it, and I've got this far.

00:36:52.220 --> 00:36:54.110
I just work differently, that's all.

00:36:54.560 --> 00:36:58.450
And it will make a lot of sense because
I couldn't really focus in school and

00:36:58.450 --> 00:37:05.559
I didn't really, I was quite impulsive,
badly behaved and other areas of

00:37:05.560 --> 00:37:11.440
my life where I'm like, yeah, had I
known and maybe got help previously,

00:37:13.459 --> 00:37:14.569
things might've been

00:37:16.849 --> 00:37:20.730
better because it was a rough one.

00:37:22.140 --> 00:37:22.790
Yeah.

00:37:22.890 --> 00:37:23.850
And I could see that.

00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:28.860
So honest question
here, why get diagnosed?

00:37:31.625 --> 00:37:36.085
Um, cause I don't know
all the coping strategies.

00:37:36.435 --> 00:37:38.455
And of course it's a spectrum, isn't it?

00:37:38.705 --> 00:37:43.485
Um, people have it, they say
more severe or they have less,

00:37:43.485 --> 00:37:44.814
or there could be something else.

00:37:44.884 --> 00:37:48.064
I don't know because I'm
not a trained, um, is it a

00:37:48.064 --> 00:37:49.705
psychologist that diagnoses you?

00:37:50.514 --> 00:37:50.964
Um.

00:37:50.975 --> 00:37:51.385
Yeah.

00:37:51.565 --> 00:37:54.145
I think that both psychiatrists
and psychologists can, one can

00:37:54.145 --> 00:37:56.715
prescribe meds, the others can't,
something along those lines.

00:37:57.195 --> 00:37:57.575
Yeah.

00:37:57.645 --> 00:37:58.409
I wouldn't, I wouldn't.

00:37:59.040 --> 00:38:00.490
I never want to be medicated.

00:38:00.550 --> 00:38:03.870
I don't want to be medicated because I
cope with life just fine, like I've got

00:38:03.870 --> 00:38:08.480
a job and all that sort of stuff, but um,
I wouldn't rule it out, I just would like

00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:10.450
to understand it a little bit more because

00:38:12.750 --> 00:38:14.799
some days are easier than others.

00:38:14.870 --> 00:38:16.920
And especially with the hormones.

00:38:17.265 --> 00:38:20.745
Being a female now, we canceled this
podcast before, because I said, I'm

00:38:20.805 --> 00:38:22.325
not doing it whilst I'm on my period.

00:38:22.435 --> 00:38:24.375
Lo and behold, you are again.

00:38:28.695 --> 00:38:28.915
Yeah.

00:38:29.155 --> 00:38:29.905
What did I say?

00:38:29.955 --> 00:38:32.845
And then I didn't, I'm feeling rough here.

00:38:32.855 --> 00:38:33.824
Are you feeling rough?

00:38:35.334 --> 00:38:36.555
And what did I say?

00:38:36.555 --> 00:38:39.325
I responded to something back and I
didn't hear anything back from you.

00:38:39.325 --> 00:38:40.985
I'm like, Oh, did I say the wrong thing?

00:38:41.705 --> 00:38:46.330
Something along the lines of, yeah, maybe,
maybe the world had really, really, I

00:38:46.340 --> 00:38:51.970
get a kick out of seeing, uh, um, you
speak in your mind, no matter what, but

00:38:52.220 --> 00:38:53.590
I have a feeling you do that anyways.

00:38:53.970 --> 00:38:58.679
Hormones just fucking, they
just send you fucking crazy.

00:38:58.700 --> 00:38:59.700
Well, mine do.

00:38:59.789 --> 00:39:03.539
10 days before my period and
sometimes just whilst I'm having it.

00:39:04.270 --> 00:39:06.610
It's, I can't describe it.

00:39:06.930 --> 00:39:10.240
And even my wife turns to me
and she's like, if I'm like, uh,

00:39:10.270 --> 00:39:12.220
a bit like snappy or whatever.

00:39:12.590 --> 00:39:16.170
And she's go, she'll go to me, you
know, you're, you're due on your period.

00:39:16.345 --> 00:39:20.175
And I'll look at her and I'm like,
it's nothing to do with that.

00:39:20.185 --> 00:39:22.375
When actually it's everything.

00:39:23.015 --> 00:39:25.495
And I'm like, you're absolutely right.

00:39:25.495 --> 00:39:30.325
You know, just fucking nuts.

00:39:30.575 --> 00:39:31.004
But yeah.

00:39:31.004 --> 00:39:35.304
So getting a diagnosis, understanding
how actually that can affect my

00:39:35.304 --> 00:39:38.425
hormonal changes and everything
else that comes with being a woman.

00:39:38.865 --> 00:39:43.125
Um, I need help to navigate it
because sometimes you can slightly

00:39:43.125 --> 00:39:44.685
feel like you're losing your mind.

00:39:46.120 --> 00:39:55.180
So when I was in grade three, I was, um,
assessed and I was diagnosed with severe

00:39:55.180 --> 00:40:01.179
ADHD and heavily medicated from grade
three till about, well, I took myself off.

00:40:01.180 --> 00:40:03.259
I didn't want to go into
high school on the meds.

00:40:03.359 --> 00:40:10.880
And so I, to the end of grade seven
and, and I look at that and I look

00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:15.140
at the, the meds they put me on, they
said I was on an experimental run.

00:40:15.870 --> 00:40:20.890
They, uh, this stuff is Ritalin and they
hear it works good for people with ADHD,

00:40:21.290 --> 00:40:23.419
but we don't know how to titrate this.

00:40:23.420 --> 00:40:24.940
We don't know how much
you should be given them.

00:40:25.210 --> 00:40:26.140
Let's give them a lot.

00:40:26.160 --> 00:40:28.750
We'll just give them a little bit more,
a bit more, a bit more to the point where

00:40:28.750 --> 00:40:35.019
it's taken like eight or so pills in the
morning, another handful in the afternoon,

00:40:36.189 --> 00:40:39.550
because they could only, they could
only prescribe up to a certain amount

00:40:39.550 --> 00:40:46.085
per pill because it was a controlled
narcotic and, um, It was terrible.

00:40:46.215 --> 00:40:50.615
I mean, I was my eyes, uh, from
grade three till grade seven.

00:40:51.285 --> 00:40:52.025
So what age is that?

00:40:52.455 --> 00:40:53.015
No grades.

00:40:53.675 --> 00:40:54.475
Oh, I don't know.

00:40:54.525 --> 00:40:59.665
Um, I just, I don't know, ages,
uh, five would be kindergarten.

00:40:59.805 --> 00:41:00.665
Before puberty.

00:41:01.075 --> 00:41:01.505
Oh yeah.

00:41:01.505 --> 00:41:02.795
Before puberty.

00:41:02.985 --> 00:41:03.785
Oh my God.

00:41:04.695 --> 00:41:04.935
Yeah.

00:41:04.935 --> 00:41:05.995
So you're like developing.

00:41:07.560 --> 00:41:08.570
Oh, a hundred percent.

00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:09.510
And put on all of that.

00:41:10.770 --> 00:41:11.770
Oh, a hundred percent.

00:41:11.850 --> 00:41:15.760
So similar to you, you know, didn't
fit in, didn't fit in, in school, was

00:41:15.770 --> 00:41:19.860
off the walls, was bouncing all over
the place, always getting into trouble.

00:41:20.220 --> 00:41:23.660
I got kicked out of, I don't
know how many schools I went to.

00:41:23.660 --> 00:41:30.370
1, 2, 3, 7 or so different schools,
not because of anything malicious, but

00:41:30.370 --> 00:41:33.049
because the energy was just too much.

00:41:34.270 --> 00:41:37.090
And I had zero, um,

00:41:39.450 --> 00:41:43.170
I, I didn't have an idea of how
to properly manage that in a way

00:41:43.170 --> 00:41:46.869
that was productive and conducive
to the environment that everyone

00:41:46.870 --> 00:41:48.149
was trying to make me fit into.

00:41:48.860 --> 00:41:51.719
Um, I look at my kids, so.

00:41:52.415 --> 00:41:56.095
Uh, and of course it's something
that can be passed down.

00:41:56.095 --> 00:42:03.175
And I, I look at my son and, um, I think,
why would I want to get him diagnosed?

00:42:03.205 --> 00:42:07.895
Why would I want to do anything to,
uh, to have a label put on somebody

00:42:07.905 --> 00:42:09.644
if he does, or if he doesn't, right.

00:42:10.165 --> 00:42:11.225
Uh, we're all a little.

00:42:11.545 --> 00:42:11.925
Different.

00:42:11.925 --> 00:42:14.865
We all got our own things, but, um,
that's, that's what I was asking you.

00:42:14.875 --> 00:42:18.545
Like the, why, if they come back
and say, no, you don't, and then

00:42:18.555 --> 00:42:21.685
you're stuck and you're saying, well,
then why am I feeling like this?

00:42:21.805 --> 00:42:23.245
That they say, yes, you do.

00:42:23.285 --> 00:42:25.625
They'll say, well, what are my options?

00:42:25.734 --> 00:42:31.014
Well, medication, uh, diet,
exercise, lifestyle changes.

00:42:32.674 --> 00:42:35.634
Um, I, I don't know.

00:42:35.804 --> 00:42:38.704
Um, it, I was just genuinely.

00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:42.260
Curious from, from your perspective where
you're at, just because I've got a little

00:42:42.260 --> 00:42:44.760
bit of background, um, in the same thing.

00:42:45.890 --> 00:42:52.380
I think it also helps us in that, um, for
me, I, I miss out on a lot of things like

00:42:52.530 --> 00:42:54.490
when it comes to writing and reading and.

00:42:54.990 --> 00:43:00.420
Sending emails and remembering stuff
or if I've got an exam to sit and I've

00:43:00.420 --> 00:43:10.210
got to prepare for it if I can't focus
It fucks me up so you can get like not

00:43:10.230 --> 00:43:14.999
like you can get a little bit of an
extension on on the time it takes you

00:43:14.999 --> 00:43:19.550
to I've done my British Sign Language.

00:43:19.640 --> 00:43:20.540
I've done evening classes.

00:43:20.540 --> 00:43:21.260
I saw that.

00:43:21.520 --> 00:43:22.410
For three years.

00:43:22.970 --> 00:43:29.250
And, um, I, um, I actually went
because I thought I had dyslexia.

00:43:29.369 --> 00:43:31.850
And the woman was like, I don't
think you've got dyslexia.

00:43:31.860 --> 00:43:32.329
I think you've got ADHD.

00:43:32.330 --> 00:43:34.799
And I was like, what
the hell is this then?

00:43:34.829 --> 00:43:36.739
Like, She sort of sits.

00:43:36.739 --> 00:43:39.540
She's like, but I can't diagnose
you because I'm a dyslexia,

00:43:39.600 --> 00:43:42.195
um, And I was like, right.

00:43:42.355 --> 00:43:45.315
And then she wrote on something to
say that, can I have extra time?

00:43:45.325 --> 00:43:47.435
Because she feels like
this is what this is.

00:43:47.835 --> 00:43:52.085
And then when it comes to my exams, I
passed them flying colors, but I just

00:43:52.085 --> 00:43:59.055
needed a little bit, like 15 more minutes,
extra time for one of the, um, One of the

00:43:59.055 --> 00:44:05.495
exams where you've got to like read and
write stuff and it helped, it did help.

00:44:05.495 --> 00:44:09.154
So if your child does have, you
think that they might have something,

00:44:09.795 --> 00:44:11.495
it's always worth getting looked at.

00:44:11.665 --> 00:44:14.625
Your child's an individual, you
know your child better than anyone.

00:44:15.175 --> 00:44:16.635
You know, you're the parent.

00:44:16.955 --> 00:44:20.525
If someone says to you, you know,
I think we should put them on this

00:44:20.525 --> 00:44:23.665
medication, top medication, well,
I've got all this stuff going.

00:44:24.145 --> 00:44:27.384
Um, you have the right to say, actually,
no, I don't think my child needs that.

00:44:27.395 --> 00:44:30.935
So it's up to you ultimately, isn't it?

00:44:31.735 --> 00:44:31.895
Yeah.

00:44:31.895 --> 00:44:35.465
Hopefully you got the right, I mean,
some places, some, some situations,

00:44:35.465 --> 00:44:41.050
it seems schools and a state can step
in and, uh, Uh, start doing things

00:44:41.230 --> 00:44:45.030
if, uh, if they feel it's in the
best interest against what you feel.

00:44:45.240 --> 00:44:50.130
Um, I don't think that would be the
case in a situation of ADHD, but,

00:44:50.130 --> 00:44:51.440
uh, in other cases, I've seen it.

00:44:52.110 --> 00:44:54.750
Um, I'd run away with my child.

00:44:55.599 --> 00:44:56.730
I think people do that.

00:44:56.820 --> 00:44:57.120
Yes.

00:44:57.550 --> 00:44:57.900
I don't think they would.

00:44:58.720 --> 00:44:58.880
No.

00:45:00.630 --> 00:45:01.440
Your child?

00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:01.930
No.

00:45:02.340 --> 00:45:03.150
So, mm.

00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:05.580
Yeah, exactly.

00:45:06.130 --> 00:45:12.380
Um, yeah, uh, well, dyslexia
is a comorbidity for A DHD,

00:45:12.770 --> 00:45:16.520
uh, as is depression, as is.

00:45:16.520 --> 00:45:21.590
Um, RSD, rejection, sensitivity,
dysmorphia, dysphoria.

00:45:21.650 --> 00:45:22.640
I don't know which one it is.

00:45:23.140 --> 00:45:30.630
And, um, uh, yeah, there, there there's,
uh, ODD, oppositional defiance disorder.

00:45:31.050 --> 00:45:35.030
Did any of those things sound
like, um, uh, they fit the bill?

00:45:35.660 --> 00:45:40.540
I mean, just give me one person
that doesn't have something.

00:45:41.380 --> 00:45:41.980
Mm hmm.

00:45:42.100 --> 00:45:47.470
Where is this all well rounded individual
who hasn't suffered with some form of

00:45:47.780 --> 00:45:52.920
feeling low or some sort of an impulsive
disorder or whatever it may be, like,

00:45:54.620 --> 00:45:55.819
we've all got something going on.

00:45:55.850 --> 00:45:58.280
I think what's good about
today is that we talk about it

00:45:58.280 --> 00:45:59.630
at least, and especially men.

00:46:00.150 --> 00:46:05.680
Who usually tend to just stay tough and
get on with it at their own detriment.

00:46:06.030 --> 00:46:11.060
Um, I think everybody's
got something going on.

00:46:12.030 --> 00:46:13.400
Stay tough and get on with it.

00:46:13.690 --> 00:46:17.139
My stuff's I'm still
sort of working it out.

00:46:17.139 --> 00:46:18.470
I've got a great therapist.

00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:19.820
She's a wonderful lady.

00:46:20.430 --> 00:46:23.279
And, uh, I talk to her a lot and it helps.

00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:25.060
How does fishing play into this?

00:46:25.400 --> 00:46:26.770
Oh, well, focus.

00:46:27.370 --> 00:46:27.650
Mm.

00:46:27.660 --> 00:46:27.990
Phillip PNL.

00:46:29.310 --> 00:46:30.284
And, uh.

00:46:30.905 --> 00:46:36.925
To be able to actually focus on a task
and enjoy it and not have a hundred

00:46:36.925 --> 00:46:40.515
miles an hour thoughts Running through
my head about what's happened in a day

00:46:40.515 --> 00:46:45.585
or scenarios or whatever and just being
there That is the most beautiful thing

00:46:45.585 --> 00:46:48.734
I've ever experienced and I will cherish
it because actually fishing has given me

00:46:48.734 --> 00:46:51.035
that where I've never found In anything.

00:46:51.405 --> 00:46:53.945
No citalopram that the
doctor tried to get me on.

00:46:54.205 --> 00:46:57.575
No dizapam They tried to get me
on when I was having anxiety.

00:46:57.854 --> 00:47:03.425
I just needed to talk to someone
Yeah Then after a fishing session, I

00:47:03.425 --> 00:47:08.025
would be in bed, not going over all
the fucking mad stuff that happens

00:47:08.025 --> 00:47:12.384
at work or in life or something that
happened fucking 10 years ago, like

00:47:12.385 --> 00:47:13.755
where I nearly died or something.

00:47:14.035 --> 00:47:15.465
You know, I would play over things.

00:47:15.515 --> 00:47:20.304
I'd be thinking about fish and
what flies I was going to tie.

00:47:21.155 --> 00:47:22.214
And it was beautiful.

00:47:22.225 --> 00:47:24.455
And that's what happens after
I have a session of fishing.

00:47:24.835 --> 00:47:25.805
I'm relaxed.

00:47:26.015 --> 00:47:28.595
So if I get stressed, I'm
like, I need to go out.

00:47:28.645 --> 00:47:32.660
Even if it's just for a walk, but
fishing's always the preference.

00:47:32.660 --> 00:47:38.615
You know, that's the reason why
I have Silvercore Outdoors is to

00:47:38.615 --> 00:47:41.125
help people deepen their connection
with the natural environment.

00:47:41.184 --> 00:47:45.304
It's to connect people to nature
because I feel that we've become

00:47:45.875 --> 00:47:50.345
a lot of times so disconnected,
especially in the urban areas.

00:47:50.345 --> 00:47:54.945
And people are communicating and
connecting through social media and

00:47:54.945 --> 00:47:58.930
it's got us Pros and cons to people
who say social media is terrible.

00:47:58.970 --> 00:48:00.870
Well, maybe you're not using it right.

00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:06.369
Um, because maybe just need to follow
one person you find inspirational,

00:48:06.380 --> 00:48:12.030
like Susan Boyle and, uh, use the
social media to share your message

00:48:12.030 --> 00:48:16.700
of, of positivity and, um, your, your
journey in the outdoors with others.

00:48:16.700 --> 00:48:18.600
Cause that'll inspire
other people to do it.

00:48:19.070 --> 00:48:20.020
And you've been doing that.

00:48:20.040 --> 00:48:22.510
You've been inspiring
people to get outdoors.

00:48:23.070 --> 00:48:24.170
I actually have.

00:48:24.450 --> 00:48:27.930
And I, I'm getting a fishing rod.

00:48:28.119 --> 00:48:29.140
What do you suggest?

00:48:29.190 --> 00:48:32.150
I always give them the cheapest
option because I'm not a brand slag.

00:48:32.600 --> 00:48:34.680
Um, and I'm like, just go for it.

00:48:34.720 --> 00:48:34.980
Like.

00:48:36.040 --> 00:48:38.910
People have messaged me to say all
my kids love your stuff, and I'm

00:48:38.910 --> 00:48:40.690
like they shouldn't be watching it.

00:48:40.690 --> 00:48:44.210
Yes, I swear too much.

00:48:44.419 --> 00:48:48.800
I am trying to be a little bit more,
you know I'm not doing anything so crazy

00:48:48.800 --> 00:48:53.400
crazy because when I went on the march
I had a couple of the kids come up so I

00:48:53.400 --> 00:48:57.250
can have a photo with you and I'm like,
ah, okay I wasn't looking to be a role

00:48:57.250 --> 00:49:00.140
model, but I guess I have to try Yeah.

00:49:00.240 --> 00:49:01.380
How's that feel?

00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:05.110
I noticed, I noticed your
most recent video you put out.

00:49:05.110 --> 00:49:06.530
I saw it pop up this morning.

00:49:06.530 --> 00:49:11.979
You're out, uh, well, this evening
for you, uh, ferret hunting.

00:49:12.709 --> 00:49:16.480
And you were, you were so
well contained in that video.

00:49:16.650 --> 00:49:20.520
I think you cracked one
joke that was, uh, yeah.

00:49:21.180 --> 00:49:24.930
I mean, I am going to do some, I'll
probably, you know, I love a pride video.

00:49:24.980 --> 00:49:27.530
I am going to have to do another
pride, wacky pride video,

00:49:27.570 --> 00:49:28.850
which people love and hate.

00:49:29.210 --> 00:49:34.095
Um, But, uh, yeah, that ferret
in one absolutely blew my mind.

00:49:34.305 --> 00:49:36.805
And I've, like I said, I've just
got into air rifle shooting.

00:49:37.700 --> 00:49:41.610
And once we got, after we hunted with
the ferrets, once we got into the field

00:49:41.610 --> 00:49:44.600
with the air rifles, I sat there for
about two hours and I was like, can't

00:49:44.600 --> 00:49:45.920
we just get the ferrets out again?

00:49:46.660 --> 00:49:48.900
Because they're so good at what they do.

00:49:49.750 --> 00:49:50.000
Yeah.

00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:52.440
And they're so far up and
you'll get the rabbits.

00:49:52.450 --> 00:49:56.180
If they're in the warren, you'll get
them instead of sitting outside a warren.

00:49:56.695 --> 00:50:00.715
Weigh in at 30 yards for the
hope that there might be a

00:50:00.715 --> 00:50:02.215
rabbit in there that emerges.

00:50:02.635 --> 00:50:08.045
And if you undiagnose ADHD, it's not
the easiest thing to sit and wait for.

00:50:09.705 --> 00:50:11.035
No, not at all.

00:50:11.375 --> 00:50:11.585
Yeah.

00:50:11.585 --> 00:50:12.435
I learned something on there.

00:50:12.435 --> 00:50:16.824
I always thought ferrets are these
vicious creatures that, uh, we

00:50:16.825 --> 00:50:21.165
bite you and attacking you, but no,
no, that's, uh, apparently not the

00:50:21.165 --> 00:50:22.485
case if you raise them properly.

00:50:22.885 --> 00:50:24.055
I can be lovely.

00:50:24.885 --> 00:50:29.525
I did a, um, a hunt in Sweden,
uh, about a week and a half ago.

00:50:29.875 --> 00:50:31.974
And I'm hoping to go there in July.

00:50:32.675 --> 00:50:32.995
Really?

00:50:33.015 --> 00:50:33.505
Where are you going?

00:50:34.015 --> 00:50:34.495
Talk to me.

00:50:34.525 --> 00:50:35.225
No, talk to me.

00:50:35.334 --> 00:50:36.395
Tell me what happened.

00:50:36.555 --> 00:50:37.884
Uh, so I was in Sweden.

00:50:37.885 --> 00:50:39.925
We did, um, we were hunting with dogs.

00:50:40.004 --> 00:50:42.605
That's something that we don't
do over here in North America.

00:50:42.985 --> 00:50:45.205
Something you guys do more of over there.

00:50:45.930 --> 00:50:51.990
And, uh, uh, one of the hunts we did go
in trail hunt in, I think you can trail

00:50:51.990 --> 00:50:56.090
hunt with dogs, but you're not allowed to
kill a fox with the dogs like you used to.

00:50:56.350 --> 00:50:57.000
Okay.

00:50:57.060 --> 00:50:57.360
Okay.

00:50:57.670 --> 00:50:59.759
Well, we do hunt with dogs.

00:51:00.189 --> 00:51:00.470
We did.

00:51:00.510 --> 00:51:00.930
Sorry.

00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:01.839
I'll take that back.

00:51:02.249 --> 00:51:06.010
You can do rabbits with dogs
and you can do rats with dogs.

00:51:06.110 --> 00:51:07.130
Very effective.

00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:07.710
Sorry.

00:51:07.710 --> 00:51:08.040
Continue.

00:51:08.740 --> 00:51:09.680
Yeah, no problem.

00:51:09.700 --> 00:51:16.580
Well, I had no idea the devastation
that a fox can have on a, uh, like young

00:51:16.580 --> 00:51:19.339
roe deer population, uh, single fox.

00:51:19.339 --> 00:51:22.330
And so prior to that,
I'm like, I don't know.

00:51:22.330 --> 00:51:23.249
Why would I want a fox?

00:51:23.250 --> 00:51:27.690
I'm like, we're on the Island
of Solaron in Sweden, and it's

00:51:27.699 --> 00:51:29.349
a bit of a historic throwback.

00:51:29.350 --> 00:51:32.120
They, uh, They have a
lot of pride in there.

00:51:32.350 --> 00:51:32.660
Hold on.

00:51:35.160 --> 00:51:35.670
There we go.

00:51:35.720 --> 00:51:37.370
Good thing I can edit
all these coughs out.

00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:41.230
Maybe it's a leftover bear
spray inside here from, uh, when

00:51:41.239 --> 00:51:42.620
we did bear spray hot wings.

00:51:43.160 --> 00:51:46.760
Um, yeah, talk about ADHD kicking in.

00:51:46.799 --> 00:51:50.600
That was, uh, I just, I grabbed
bear spray out of the back of the,

00:51:50.600 --> 00:51:52.300
uh, the cupboard had a plastic bag.

00:51:52.300 --> 00:51:54.710
We're doing, uh, this hot ones challenge.

00:51:54.710 --> 00:52:01.170
You buy the set of these and it
imitates see the hot ones, um, uh, Show

00:52:01.220 --> 00:52:03.210
essentially, I got to the end of it.

00:52:03.210 --> 00:52:04.950
It's like, that wasn't too bad.

00:52:05.270 --> 00:52:06.340
How do we amp it up?

00:52:06.680 --> 00:52:09.930
And so I grabbed out some bear
spray, sprayed into the bag

00:52:09.949 --> 00:52:11.260
and, uh, yeah, that did it.

00:52:11.260 --> 00:52:13.669
Tasted terrible, but, uh, but hot.

00:52:14.700 --> 00:52:19.840
Um, anyways, was in a historic
solar on and They use their dogs to

00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:24.560
find the fox and they had this tiny
little terrier, like I'm holding my

00:52:24.560 --> 00:52:26.020
hands up and people are watching it.

00:52:26.180 --> 00:52:29.720
It's, it's literally like that big,
just tiny little thing that they

00:52:29.729 --> 00:52:33.499
send into the, uh, the fox den,
into the rocks to get the fox out.

00:52:34.019 --> 00:52:34.529
Crazy.

00:52:35.125 --> 00:52:36.885
Brilliant, very effective.

00:52:36.995 --> 00:52:39.325
And those terriers are phenomenal at that.

00:52:40.285 --> 00:52:40.725
Yeah.

00:52:41.525 --> 00:52:41.785
Yeah.

00:52:41.785 --> 00:52:42.865
So that was new to me.

00:52:43.015 --> 00:52:45.945
So tell me about you, Sweden, you
get, you're going hunting there.

00:52:45.945 --> 00:52:46.845
You got an invite, did you?

00:52:47.294 --> 00:52:51.405
I've got an invite, a chap called
Lars has put the feelers out.

00:52:51.745 --> 00:52:53.535
And I'm like, cause I've got to be saving.

00:52:54.244 --> 00:52:56.704
I've got to be saving cause
me and my wife are saving.

00:52:56.705 --> 00:52:59.114
And I'm like, Lars, I don't
know if I can do it or not.

00:52:59.114 --> 00:53:02.215
I had a chat with my wife and she's
like, all right, maybe we can make it.

00:53:02.900 --> 00:53:04.320
For your birthday or whatever.

00:53:04.690 --> 00:53:07.100
So, I'm gonna meet Lars
at the shooting show.

00:53:07.230 --> 00:53:08.850
Gonna have a chat, I'm
gonna see what's what.

00:53:08.850 --> 00:53:10.950
I think we might be fishing for salmon.

00:53:11.020 --> 00:53:14.980
Um, he does a lot of hunting, so
I wouldn't, I wouldn't rule out

00:53:15.020 --> 00:53:17.170
any of that, but it's a potential.

00:53:17.170 --> 00:53:20.110
And also there is a chap there called Ron.

00:53:20.450 --> 00:53:23.499
I've never met Ron, but he
always comments on my videos.

00:53:23.600 --> 00:53:23.970
Okay.

00:53:24.160 --> 00:53:28.909
I go to Sweden, Ron, if you're
watching, I might get to see you

00:53:28.909 --> 00:53:30.560
and I'll bring you some English tea.

00:53:30.819 --> 00:53:33.329
They got some pretty good coffee
over there too, that they can trade.

00:53:33.329 --> 00:53:33.509
Yeah.

00:53:34.060 --> 00:53:36.210
Um, so.

00:53:37.250 --> 00:53:41.450
I, you brought it up earlier
and I figured it, I got to ask,

00:53:41.510 --> 00:53:43.550
you said you almost died before,

00:53:46.470 --> 00:53:48.080
or should we just stay away from that one?

00:53:48.970 --> 00:53:50.070
I mean, I've been so.

00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:54.640
Okay.

00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:55.760
Yeah, that's not a problem.

00:53:56.200 --> 00:53:57.129
Well, we'll leave that one.

00:53:58.330 --> 00:54:03.330
I'm just being fucking stupid
in my life and, uh, it's

00:54:03.330 --> 00:54:05.500
nothing like sad or anything.

00:54:05.500 --> 00:54:06.600
It's just like, fuck.

00:54:06.600 --> 00:54:10.370
I was just a completely different person
to I am now and I'm just quite, I'm lucky.

00:54:10.370 --> 00:54:12.280
I never thought I'd make it past 30.

00:54:12.929 --> 00:54:17.579
I've got one gray hair, 33, I've
got my little wrinkle here and

00:54:17.579 --> 00:54:18.820
I'm like, thank God I've got them.

00:54:19.500 --> 00:54:23.380
You know, I'm aging, I'm getting little
crow's feet and I'm like, give me more.

00:54:23.450 --> 00:54:24.250
Let me get older.

00:54:24.280 --> 00:54:25.870
I want to get to the
ripe old age of like 80.

00:54:26.845 --> 00:54:28.115
And then pop me clogs.

00:54:28.115 --> 00:54:33.625
I want, I want to stick around,
you know, not do anything crazy.

00:54:34.575 --> 00:54:35.175
I hear you.

00:54:35.665 --> 00:54:35.885
Yeah.

00:54:35.885 --> 00:54:39.095
My parents, when I was a kid, they told
me they didn't think I'd live past the

00:54:39.095 --> 00:54:41.774
age of 10 and, uh, well, I was a child.

00:54:42.715 --> 00:54:42.875
What's that?

00:54:43.735 --> 00:54:45.335
There you go alive.

00:54:45.335 --> 00:54:48.815
And, and then I made it past 10 and
they said, well, I don't think you're

00:54:48.815 --> 00:54:52.725
going to make it to be an adult
and then made it the adult years.

00:54:52.725 --> 00:54:55.765
And now eating bear spray
and just living your life.

00:54:56.405 --> 00:54:56.955
Just live.

00:54:59.074 --> 00:54:59.744
Yes.

00:54:59.875 --> 00:55:03.325
Um, see, now that you made that reference,
I can't edit that other stuff out.

00:55:03.365 --> 00:55:07.524
So I guess we're going to be
leaving some stuff in here.

00:55:07.525 --> 00:55:08.075
Um,

00:55:10.235 --> 00:55:17.900
you've, One thing that I think is pretty
cool that you talk about in, uh, on your

00:55:17.900 --> 00:55:21.839
social media, and that I think you're
instilling in the people who follow

00:55:21.840 --> 00:55:26.140
you in the younger generation is that
you're all right, getting things wrong.

00:55:26.520 --> 00:55:28.230
You're all right, making mistakes.

00:55:28.780 --> 00:55:33.610
Absolute blessings, absolute
blessings teaches you how to be

00:55:33.610 --> 00:55:36.700
a failure, great skill to have.

00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:41.580
Look, imagine going through life again,
everything you want, and then finally

00:55:41.580 --> 00:55:45.070
failing at something, you will be
crushed by the weight of the world.

00:55:45.710 --> 00:55:49.210
So get as many things wrong as you
can get, you know, wrong, like, and

00:55:49.219 --> 00:55:52.330
don't be worried about it because
actually it's the best way to learn.

00:55:53.020 --> 00:55:55.710
What would people be
surprised to learn about you?

00:55:56.175 --> 00:55:56.955
There's nothing.

00:55:57.075 --> 00:55:59.575
I'm just a random woman from South London.

00:56:00.175 --> 00:56:00.695
Nothing.

00:56:01.755 --> 00:56:04.905
Honestly, I am just a random
woman from South London.

00:56:05.945 --> 00:56:07.365
You know, I've got my day job.

00:56:07.365 --> 00:56:09.425
I work Monday to Friday as a receptionist.

00:56:09.634 --> 00:56:11.454
Hello, Belinda's in reception.

00:56:11.455 --> 00:56:12.675
Bob, thank you very much.

00:56:13.494 --> 00:56:14.465
That's my job.

00:56:15.425 --> 00:56:15.765
Okay.

00:56:16.255 --> 00:56:20.404
Uh, and I leave all my anxieties
at the back door and I go

00:56:20.404 --> 00:56:21.894
on these great adventures.

00:56:22.674 --> 00:56:24.520
With, uh, Men off the internet.

00:56:27.380 --> 00:56:30.000
Isn't that what people used to
warn us about when we were younger?

00:56:30.460 --> 00:56:30.730
Yeah.

00:56:30.730 --> 00:56:32.080
Don't meet people on the internet.

00:56:32.540 --> 00:56:33.180
Yeah.

00:56:33.490 --> 00:56:34.030
Yeah.

00:56:34.640 --> 00:56:39.200
But you know, let me tell you this,
and this might be controversial,

00:56:40.909 --> 00:56:42.189
but I'll just tell you this.

00:56:42.190 --> 00:56:42.590
Yeah.

00:56:42.590 --> 00:56:43.129
Yeah.

00:56:43.410 --> 00:56:44.779
Just me, just between you and me.

00:56:45.320 --> 00:56:46.890
Men are actually lovely.

00:56:47.490 --> 00:56:50.780
I found the same thing too,
but don't tell anybody.

00:56:52.535 --> 00:56:54.085
Proper men, they're lovely.

00:56:54.295 --> 00:56:56.795
So I will go and meet them.

00:56:56.795 --> 00:56:58.805
Don't get me wrong.

00:56:58.815 --> 00:57:01.255
You can sort of tell if someone's
a bit of a fucking weirdo, then I'm

00:57:01.255 --> 00:57:02.515
like, no, I don't want to end up dead.

00:57:02.515 --> 00:57:03.005
You know what I mean?

00:57:03.005 --> 00:57:03.475
But like.

00:57:05.155 --> 00:57:05.325
Yeah.

00:57:05.325 --> 00:57:06.045
What's your test?

00:57:07.605 --> 00:57:09.395
It's just usually ask
people, are you a murderer?

00:57:09.395 --> 00:57:11.335
They go, no, and then I get in their car.

00:57:14.304 --> 00:57:18.664
Have you thought about, um, turning
what you're doing here on the social

00:57:18.664 --> 00:57:23.184
side into a full time job that might
be able to help facilitate trips,

00:57:23.234 --> 00:57:25.064
fishing and travel in the world.

00:57:25.435 --> 00:57:26.405
That's not realistic.

00:57:26.425 --> 00:57:28.105
Do you know how much I make on my YouTube?

00:57:28.835 --> 00:57:29.125
No.

00:57:29.135 --> 00:57:30.225
Like, like 3.

00:57:30.225 --> 00:57:33.365
50, tenner if I'm lucky.

00:57:33.825 --> 00:57:39.954
Uh, I think that what I get from social
media is the experiences, meeting new

00:57:39.954 --> 00:57:45.260
people, um, Sometimes I can stay at
their venue and it's, it costs less and

00:57:45.260 --> 00:57:51.690
just the experiences as a, on a whole
that's something I absolutely cherish.

00:57:51.910 --> 00:57:54.320
I don't, there's no real financial reward.

00:57:54.680 --> 00:57:59.519
I was supposed to be stuck on the same
old estate with the same old people doing

00:57:59.519 --> 00:58:03.759
the same old things, but I'm out and I'm
doing the incredible, incredible thing.

00:58:03.769 --> 00:58:05.979
So yeah, there's not
really going to be any job.

00:58:06.820 --> 00:58:08.840
Sometimes I get like messages from people.

00:58:08.840 --> 00:58:13.400
Oh, would you like to present This or
that and it'll always fall through.

00:58:13.900 --> 00:58:15.850
'cause I just think my teeth be wonky.

00:58:16.285 --> 00:58:16.575
What?

00:58:18.570 --> 00:58:18.572
. That's funny.

00:58:18.660 --> 00:58:19.260
I don't have that.

00:58:19.470 --> 00:58:20.220
It's this one.

00:58:21.780 --> 00:58:21.840
Yeah.

00:58:21.840 --> 00:58:24.960
We could just, if I'd have got
braces, if my parents loved

00:58:24.960 --> 00:58:26.670
me enough to get me braces,

00:58:29.000 --> 00:58:29.210
. Yeah.

00:58:29.660 --> 00:58:30.740
I had, I had the option growing up.

00:58:30.740 --> 00:58:34.610
Uh, you can get braces, but they're
really gonna hurt and they're

00:58:34.610 --> 00:58:35.690
gonna be on for a long time.

00:58:35.690 --> 00:58:36.170
They're gonna hurt.

00:58:36.720 --> 00:58:37.920
Or we can get you a new bike.

00:58:38.580 --> 00:58:39.490
And I got neither.

00:58:41.200 --> 00:58:43.320
I was like, I don't want these,
I don't want these braces.

00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:44.290
What are you talking about?

00:58:45.520 --> 00:58:47.450
Oh, well now I got that distinctive gap.

00:58:48.569 --> 00:58:48.979
Um.

00:58:48.980 --> 00:58:51.880
I don't know, I don't, I don't
get anything from it, not yet.

00:58:51.890 --> 00:58:54.610
Anyway, who's to say there could
be something in the future.

00:58:54.860 --> 00:58:57.970
Someone might feel sorry for me and
go, I'll go and give her a break.

00:58:58.100 --> 00:58:59.340
Would you do sponsorships?

00:58:59.380 --> 00:59:02.630
If someone says, Hey, we want you
to use our rod or whatever it is.

00:59:03.100 --> 00:59:07.960
If I needed the stuff which I did
in the beginning, um, but the fly

00:59:07.960 --> 00:59:10.560
fishing industry can fuck themselves.

00:59:10.630 --> 00:59:11.670
I don't like it.

00:59:12.240 --> 00:59:13.900
I don't like sponsorships.

00:59:14.070 --> 00:59:15.910
Nobody's ever got anything from me.

00:59:15.910 --> 00:59:19.090
Like I did use a few rods, but
I said, I'm not going to do

00:59:19.090 --> 00:59:20.810
hashtag this and hashtag that.

00:59:21.269 --> 00:59:24.240
And I'm not going to put you in my
mouth and take a photo of a fish.

00:59:24.580 --> 00:59:27.780
I don't think it's cool to fish with
this kind of what you don't need.

00:59:28.570 --> 00:59:30.569
People used to fish with bamboo rods.

00:59:30.580 --> 00:59:31.170
Get that.

00:59:31.250 --> 00:59:31.650
Yeah.

00:59:31.870 --> 00:59:32.030
Yeah.

00:59:32.030 --> 00:59:33.410
You catch a fish.

00:59:34.055 --> 00:59:35.315
It doesn't matter what you've got.

00:59:35.435 --> 00:59:39.145
Um, I think that industry
is, is not for me.

00:59:39.465 --> 00:59:42.405
And it says, you know,
be a pro team member.

00:59:42.415 --> 00:59:45.405
It doesn't mean you're a professional
angler or that you're better than anyone.

00:59:45.435 --> 00:59:47.334
It just means that you're in promotions.

00:59:47.605 --> 00:59:48.035
Yeah.

00:59:48.580 --> 00:59:49.530
That's exactly it.

00:59:50.210 --> 00:59:52.060
I I've always had a
difficult time with that one.

00:59:52.070 --> 00:59:56.410
And I agree with you the, so the podcast
people like, Oh, wow, you do podcasting.

00:59:56.430 --> 00:59:57.600
Let's make a lot of money off of it.

00:59:57.600 --> 00:59:59.289
No, I don't monetize the podcast.

00:59:59.575 --> 01:00:01.975
But you make some fantastic connections.

01:00:02.365 --> 01:00:04.195
You meet some amazing people.

01:00:04.195 --> 01:00:08.884
The reason I was hunting in Sweden
is because of the podcast and

01:00:09.694 --> 01:00:11.195
which is kind of a weird story.

01:00:11.695 --> 01:00:13.124
I started this podcast.

01:00:13.175 --> 01:00:14.945
I wanted a catchy jingle.

01:00:15.295 --> 01:00:21.595
I go online, I licensed one from this
company called Epidemic Sound and five

01:00:21.595 --> 01:00:24.965
years into it, I'm like, man, I liked
it, but I, anyone can license it.

01:00:24.995 --> 01:00:26.075
I want to have my own.

01:00:26.425 --> 01:00:31.085
And so I try and track down the artists,
which was tough because they changed

01:00:31.115 --> 01:00:33.005
the name of the artist and somehow.

01:00:33.810 --> 01:00:35.740
And anyways, tracked him down.

01:00:35.780 --> 01:00:36.980
He lives in Sweden.

01:00:36.990 --> 01:00:39.220
He says, not a problem.

01:00:39.220 --> 01:00:39.950
I'm flattered.

01:00:39.950 --> 01:00:41.530
I'd love to make a new song for you.

01:00:41.530 --> 01:00:43.640
And by the way, I love
hunting and fishing.

01:00:43.640 --> 01:00:44.870
And why don't you come over here?

01:00:45.119 --> 01:00:50.390
So that is where the, I find the
real value is and the connections,

01:00:50.390 --> 01:00:54.010
meeting people like yourself and
when people approach about, Hey,

01:00:54.010 --> 01:00:56.040
would you rep, would you rep this?

01:00:56.040 --> 01:00:57.090
Or would you hold that?

01:00:57.860 --> 01:00:59.900
Um, I always say the same thing.

01:00:59.900 --> 01:01:00.250
You know what?

01:01:00.890 --> 01:01:03.360
If I like your kit, I'm
going to be using it anyways.

01:01:03.410 --> 01:01:03.720
Right.

01:01:03.760 --> 01:01:04.580
I have a hard time.

01:01:04.580 --> 01:01:09.110
I don't know how to bridge that gap
for monetization for using the kit.

01:01:09.520 --> 01:01:14.250
Uh, so I just say, um, we've got
a club here at Silvercore club,

01:01:14.529 --> 01:01:16.829
which might be something you
want to look at too over there.

01:01:17.540 --> 01:01:20.600
And, uh, I said, well, why don't you
give the club members a discount?

01:01:20.990 --> 01:01:23.310
I would use your stuff anyways,
but if you can give the members

01:01:23.310 --> 01:01:24.610
a discount, that'd be amazing.

01:01:24.840 --> 01:01:26.600
So that's sort of the
route that I've taken.

01:01:26.640 --> 01:01:30.930
I don't know if it's the right
one, but, uh, uh, I, it goes from.

01:01:31.740 --> 01:01:32.979
Then that's, that's it.

01:01:33.369 --> 01:01:36.999
But I don't know what it's like in,
in Canada, as opposed to the UK.

01:01:38.140 --> 01:01:39.609
I didn't like the UK scene.

01:01:39.930 --> 01:01:40.970
They don't like me.

01:01:43.740 --> 01:01:47.760
What, what is it about the UK scene
that, uh, that you don't like?

01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:51.240
They're just fucking crusty old attitudes.

01:01:51.240 --> 01:01:56.120
It's almost like they just, they think
they're better than other people.

01:01:56.180 --> 01:01:58.189
And you're not, you're not.

01:01:59.105 --> 01:02:04.235
or like they're an expert in catching
one kind of fish because that's all they

01:02:04.235 --> 01:02:08.195
do and they fish the same beat where
they know exactly the exact depth so

01:02:08.195 --> 01:02:11.215
they know where the fish are and they
call themselves an expert you're not an

01:02:11.215 --> 01:02:17.075
expert you're boring how about that Yeah.

01:02:17.235 --> 01:02:21.125
I like the people that say,
well, it intimidates people,

01:02:21.145 --> 01:02:22.485
especially like the younger lot.

01:02:22.485 --> 01:02:24.774
And they look up and they think, Oh
my God, like these are, you know, we

01:02:24.775 --> 01:02:26.114
need, I need to be like these guys.

01:02:26.115 --> 01:02:27.265
No, don't be like them.

01:02:27.615 --> 01:02:29.805
Be yourself, bring
something new to the table.

01:02:30.245 --> 01:02:35.244
I'm just a bit of a, a bit of a
punk, I would say in that sense.

01:02:36.275 --> 01:02:39.665
Um, but for anyone who wants to do that,

01:02:42.365 --> 01:02:44.685
I'm not like judging,
but don't talk to me.

01:02:46.545 --> 01:02:50.950
Well, there's a difference between having
20 years experience And having one year

01:02:50.950 --> 01:02:55.640
of experience, 20 times over, and a lot
of times people get into it and they just

01:02:55.640 --> 01:02:59.680
get deep down into that one little safety
zone of something they know how to do.

01:03:00.270 --> 01:03:04.120
And then they will,
that gives them purpose.

01:03:04.120 --> 01:03:06.859
Right.

01:03:07.719 --> 01:03:08.119
Right.

01:03:09.219 --> 01:03:09.519
Yeah.

01:03:09.579 --> 01:03:10.310
Who needs that?

01:03:11.259 --> 01:03:12.890
Um, gypsy background.

01:03:13.610 --> 01:03:16.230
Is that just something your mom
says, or is that something true?

01:03:16.840 --> 01:03:20.309
Well, the thing is, yeah,
I've got the heritage is, is.

01:03:21.870 --> 01:03:28.670
Um, but I'm not in the community,
so I'm like, I'm English.

01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:29.900
I don't see it.

01:03:29.910 --> 01:03:37.949
I mean, maybe, I don't know, some
attitudes, but yeah, it not, they

01:03:37.959 --> 01:03:39.719
don't have a good rep in the UK.

01:03:40.125 --> 01:03:44.005
Where I've been to places like Seville
in Spain or Sevilla as they say it

01:03:44.385 --> 01:03:49.424
and the Gypsy communities there They
they obviously created flamenco and

01:03:49.855 --> 01:03:51.525
they're actually quite well respected.

01:03:51.605 --> 01:03:57.834
So it's polar opposites of what the
UK is Like my great granddad I think

01:03:57.844 --> 01:04:02.085
he couldn't say that he had a Gypsy
heritage because otherwise I don't think

01:04:02.085 --> 01:04:06.550
he would have got into the army or at
the level that He got to in the army.

01:04:06.870 --> 01:04:12.280
So there's that sort of like
historic discrimination, but now

01:04:15.070 --> 01:04:19.240
I'm not, I'm not really in it,
but I'll acknowledge it because

01:04:19.280 --> 01:04:22.090
it's part of my heritage.

01:04:22.580 --> 01:04:28.569
I'm not in the community, but when I go
fishing, people will say like derogatory

01:04:28.570 --> 01:04:31.170
terms, like, oh, I won't say it on here.

01:04:31.570 --> 01:04:36.790
Um, but they'll say derogatory terms about
Roman, Egyptian and traveler communities.

01:04:37.180 --> 01:04:38.930
And they don't know, now they know.

01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:42.600
And I'm like, okay, I know what you are.

01:04:43.310 --> 01:04:44.690
I'll distance myself from you.

01:04:44.730 --> 01:04:46.400
Because I'm not going to
challenge people all the time.

01:04:46.400 --> 01:04:49.020
Sometimes I'll go like, don't you think
that's a bit much you're saying that.

01:04:49.520 --> 01:04:49.860
And they're like, no.

01:04:51.250 --> 01:04:53.209
And I'm like, alright, leave it.

01:04:53.449 --> 01:04:54.659
Don't hang around with that one anymore.

01:04:55.240 --> 01:04:58.130
But now I think I put it out there
because now people will know.

01:04:58.755 --> 01:05:00.965
If they want to say anything
fine, they can say it, but.

01:05:02.005 --> 01:05:02.965
Yeah, just call it out.

01:05:03.705 --> 01:05:08.804
All I know about the, uh, uh, gypsy
communities would be, well, you

01:05:08.804 --> 01:05:13.585
know, traveling around some places,
you see, uh, communities are called

01:05:13.594 --> 01:05:17.785
gypsies, but I guess the movie
snatch and, uh, Peaky blinders.

01:05:18.234 --> 01:05:18.725
So that.

01:05:18.735 --> 01:05:19.985
Yeah, all the violent stuff.

01:05:19.995 --> 01:05:20.375
Yeah.

01:05:20.535 --> 01:05:20.745
Yeah.

01:05:21.095 --> 01:05:21.215
Yeah.

01:05:21.215 --> 01:05:22.034
That's fine.

01:05:22.035 --> 01:05:22.695
All the violence.

01:05:23.085 --> 01:05:26.375
Don't worry about all the dancing and the
food and the family, you know, the very

01:05:26.375 --> 01:05:28.325
family orientated and stick together.

01:05:29.285 --> 01:05:36.915
And, uh, and actually, uh, a lot of,
uh, gypsies and travelers hunt and they,

01:05:36.945 --> 01:05:40.194
they know more about the land than most
because obviously they live off it.

01:05:40.194 --> 01:05:44.085
You're supposed to obviously take what
you need, leave things untouched and

01:05:44.085 --> 01:05:46.165
then, you know, live, live your life.

01:05:46.464 --> 01:05:46.884
So.

01:05:47.780 --> 01:05:50.850
Maybe that's why I'm a bit wild, but
then I think we all have that in us

01:05:50.850 --> 01:05:52.460
because that's what being human is.

01:05:52.470 --> 01:05:55.200
We're not supposed to be trapped
in office, office blocks and,

01:05:55.860 --> 01:05:57.360
you know, working all the time.

01:05:57.360 --> 01:05:58.490
We're supposed to be outside.

01:05:58.649 --> 01:06:02.039
You'd be surprised at how many
people are afraid to go outside.

01:06:02.059 --> 01:06:04.939
Like I know people who live in my
community who don't go in the water

01:06:04.949 --> 01:06:06.060
because they're afraid of sharks.

01:06:06.280 --> 01:06:08.089
We don't really have sharks.

01:06:08.099 --> 01:06:08.399
Sure.

01:06:08.399 --> 01:06:11.309
There's going to be an odd anomaly that
comes up, but they won't go into the

01:06:11.309 --> 01:06:12.669
woods because they're afraid of dogs.

01:06:12.690 --> 01:06:13.320
Bears.

01:06:14.080 --> 01:06:16.100
I mean, okay, fair enough.

01:06:16.840 --> 01:06:19.130
When somebody's told me about them, I
was like, all right, okay, I get it.

01:06:19.160 --> 01:06:19.610
I get it.

01:06:19.740 --> 01:06:20.120
Do you know what?

01:06:20.130 --> 01:06:21.730
Sometimes I like to do as well.

01:06:23.150 --> 01:06:27.229
Like just sleep in the garden,
like in the warmer months, just

01:06:27.229 --> 01:06:28.720
to pair everything outside.

01:06:29.560 --> 01:06:31.059
Like I like sleeping outside.

01:06:31.110 --> 01:06:34.394
I love camping, but even in my
flat, I've got a little garden.

01:06:34.695 --> 01:06:37.805
If it's summer, I don't mind
having a little sleep outside.

01:06:38.055 --> 01:06:38.775
It's mad, innit?

01:06:38.815 --> 01:06:44.864
But, because I'm on an estate, it's not
as, like, it's not in the countryside.

01:06:44.865 --> 01:06:48.095
Like, you'll hear someone will
blare their music, or someone will

01:06:48.095 --> 01:06:50.885
be having a fight or something like
that, or a car alarm will go off, so

01:06:50.885 --> 01:06:54.770
it's not that soothing, but We did
a whole podcast on micro adventures.

01:06:54.770 --> 01:06:59.530
One of your countrymen over there, we're
talking about, uh, having micro adventures

01:06:59.530 --> 01:07:02.460
and what that looks like and how you
can get outside by sleeping in your

01:07:02.460 --> 01:07:07.349
garden, by just going to the local park
and engaging with the, uh, the wildlife.

01:07:07.599 --> 01:07:08.729
I just illegally camp.

01:07:10.039 --> 01:07:11.169
So, cause you're a gypsy.

01:07:11.950 --> 01:07:12.239
That's it.

01:07:12.239 --> 01:07:12.710
There you go.

01:07:12.710 --> 01:07:18.500
Um, I'm not hurting anyone.

01:07:18.500 --> 01:07:19.989
I get in someone's field.

01:07:20.700 --> 01:07:22.519
I have a lie down, get me tent up.

01:07:23.655 --> 01:07:27.695
Set a little fire, sleep under the
stars, and I'm gone in the morning.

01:07:28.525 --> 01:07:30.965
So we can't do that in Canada.

01:07:30.975 --> 01:07:36.155
You guys have a rule where I think it's
one night, you can go on to anyone's

01:07:36.155 --> 01:07:39.795
private property, as long as it's not a
certain distance from their, their house.

01:07:39.805 --> 01:07:41.234
Is that, am I getting this right?

01:07:41.714 --> 01:07:42.925
No, you're completely wrong.

01:07:43.114 --> 01:07:46.515
You're not allowed to wild
camp anywhere in the UK, apart

01:07:46.515 --> 01:07:47.835
from a place called Dartmoor.

01:07:47.975 --> 01:07:50.375
And even now they're trying
to stop that from happening.

01:07:50.864 --> 01:07:53.305
You're supposed to have
land owner's permission.

01:07:53.305 --> 01:07:53.705
Yes.

01:07:54.455 --> 01:07:54.835
Okay.

01:07:54.835 --> 01:07:58.335
So in Sweden, they have something
called, basically it translates

01:07:58.335 --> 01:07:59.515
to like all man's land.

01:07:59.925 --> 01:08:03.815
And when I was talking to them about it,
because they're allowed to go, someone

01:08:03.815 --> 01:08:08.754
owns a property over a certain size,
uh, by law, they're allowed to be on

01:08:08.755 --> 01:08:10.575
that property, camp on that property.

01:08:10.614 --> 01:08:15.614
I think it's only for one night, certain
distance from the, uh, um, from the house.

01:08:15.614 --> 01:08:19.605
And I thought the UK had something, or
maybe it's, uh, travel through rights.

01:08:20.530 --> 01:08:23.010
It's Scotland, you can camp in Scotland.

01:08:23.700 --> 01:08:24.090
Okay.

01:08:25.180 --> 01:08:28.020
So you can't camp, it's all private land.

01:08:28.030 --> 01:08:31.220
You can't go out into the bush
like we can here in Canada.

01:08:31.670 --> 01:08:34.240
Don't let your government
do what ours has done to us.

01:08:34.289 --> 01:08:34.610
All right.

01:08:34.640 --> 01:08:36.050
Take this as a warning.

01:08:36.540 --> 01:08:37.780
Fight for your rights.

01:08:37.789 --> 01:08:38.049
Yeah.

01:08:38.049 --> 01:08:38.979
The right to roam.

01:08:39.930 --> 01:08:43.540
I didn't realize that, uh, you guys
had, had lost that right over there

01:08:43.540 --> 01:08:45.000
and in the process of losing it.

01:08:45.590 --> 01:08:48.820
Yeah, we don't have much here really.

01:08:49.390 --> 01:08:55.049
Can you, as I should say.

01:08:55.310 --> 01:08:58.959
I have to learn how to put, uh, all the
little motion graphics on like you do.

01:08:58.960 --> 01:09:02.270
You got a little car driving around
with a dotted line on the map.

01:09:02.270 --> 01:09:05.379
And I watched that one, um,

01:09:08.590 --> 01:09:11.294
fly fishing competition, you
did one recently, did you?

01:09:11.615 --> 01:09:17.385
Oh yeah, I didn't, I didn't make the
final because I gave up basically, I only

01:09:17.385 --> 01:09:21.235
turned up with one rod that was not really
the rod that I should have been using,

01:09:21.235 --> 01:09:24.195
I should have been nymphing and then
like halfway through I just thought, you

01:09:24.195 --> 01:09:28.264
know what, I'll just wade and sing some
Dolly Parton and I was singing and the

01:09:28.264 --> 01:09:29.524
other guys were like, what are you doing?

01:09:29.535 --> 01:09:33.175
And I was like, Ireland's in dun dun,
I won't sing it for copyright reasons,

01:09:33.435 --> 01:09:37.155
but um, we need to start fishing
and I was like, what do you mean?

01:09:37.155 --> 01:09:39.314
I was like, I've already, you
know, I'm, I can't be bothered

01:09:39.315 --> 01:09:42.624
and they were like, no, cause the
other guys are in this competition.

01:09:42.625 --> 01:09:45.335
And I If you catch a
fish, it changes things.

01:09:45.775 --> 01:09:48.335
And everybody's working hard
and you can't just walk up

01:09:48.335 --> 01:09:49.495
and down singing Dolly Parton.

01:09:49.545 --> 01:09:52.425
And I was like, I was like, all right.

01:09:52.464 --> 01:09:55.485
And then I'd done a bit of fishing,
but I wasn't really going through it.

01:09:56.515 --> 01:09:58.874
And I caught some fish,
but they were undersized.

01:09:58.874 --> 01:09:59.794
They were like tiddlers.

01:10:00.575 --> 01:10:00.855
Okay.

01:10:00.855 --> 01:10:03.504
I didn't make the final, but
it was a great experience.

01:10:04.234 --> 01:10:05.205
Oh, was it?

01:10:05.245 --> 01:10:05.965
Oh, yeah.

01:10:05.995 --> 01:10:08.535
I got to have a go on a leaf
blower for the first time.

01:10:09.665 --> 01:10:11.375
What do you mean have a
go on the leaf blower?

01:10:11.785 --> 01:10:15.185
So there was a man in the car park
before we, before we We went out

01:10:15.555 --> 01:10:17.045
and he was just doing his job.

01:10:17.055 --> 01:10:17.885
It worked for the camera.

01:10:17.885 --> 01:10:19.395
I was like, I have a go on that, mate.

01:10:19.435 --> 01:10:20.805
And he was like, yeah, of course you can.

01:10:20.805 --> 01:10:24.215
And he gave me like a little tutorial and
I was blowing the leafs in the car park.

01:10:24.765 --> 01:10:28.005
Again, they were like, Amy,
we're starting a competition.

01:10:28.495 --> 01:10:30.964
Get off the leaf blower.

01:10:30.965 --> 01:10:32.475
Come here now, register.

01:10:33.015 --> 01:10:37.125
So do you want your
diagnosis now or, or what?

01:10:41.925 --> 01:10:42.535
Oh man.

01:10:43.875 --> 01:10:47.215
Next you're going to have a, a
rolling chair in the leaf blower and,

01:10:47.215 --> 01:10:49.344
uh, having, having races with it.

01:10:51.205 --> 01:10:53.235
Um, air rifles over there.

01:10:53.375 --> 01:10:54.955
Uh, what, what's the rules on them?

01:10:54.975 --> 01:11:00.495
Are they, they're regulated over a certain
feet per second or joules of energy, or.

01:11:00.565 --> 01:11:04.614
Well, they all kind of 12 sub pounds.

01:11:04.614 --> 01:11:09.964
I've got to be under 12 sub foot
pounds to what you guys have,

01:11:09.995 --> 01:11:11.644
but they're perfectly legal.

01:11:11.644 --> 01:11:15.455
You can buy it, you can purchase one,
obviously traveling with it has to be

01:11:15.455 --> 01:11:18.535
in a locked case and the pellets have
to be separately locked somewhere else.

01:11:18.535 --> 01:11:20.754
So yeah, that's, that's very accessible.

01:11:21.880 --> 01:11:24.960
And what were you hunting with, something
that exceeds that or something under that?

01:11:25.495 --> 01:11:28.845
Just under that, it has to be under
that, otherwise you'll need an FAC.

01:11:29.315 --> 01:11:32.605
For anything over 12, 000
pounds you need an FAC license,

01:11:32.605 --> 01:11:33.875
which is a firearms license.

01:11:34.464 --> 01:11:37.385
Um, and I use 22 caliber air rifle.

01:11:37.635 --> 01:11:42.595
You can get 177, but I think for
the rabbit 22 is, is better for me.

01:11:42.615 --> 01:11:47.915
A little more heft and, uh, yeah, yeah.

01:11:47.935 --> 01:11:49.745
We've got 500 feet per second, 5.

01:11:49.745 --> 01:11:52.835
7 joules of energy is our sort of cutoff.

01:11:52.835 --> 01:11:56.665
So if it goes faster, but it's not a
heavy pellet, don't worry about it.

01:11:56.665 --> 01:12:00.405
If it goes, uh, uh, yeah.

01:12:00.465 --> 01:12:04.414
Anyways, then it's a regulated
firearm over there, over here.

01:12:04.414 --> 01:12:07.315
And so your FAC, that's your
firearms acquisition certificate.

01:12:07.745 --> 01:12:08.015
Mm hmm.

01:12:08.900 --> 01:12:09.230
Okay.

01:12:09.280 --> 01:12:09.520
Yeah.

01:12:09.520 --> 01:12:11.120
And have you got, have you got that?

01:12:11.620 --> 01:12:14.030
I don't want to opt for it
because I don't, I don't want a

01:12:14.030 --> 01:12:17.490
firearm because it's not, it's not
something I'm going to be doing.

01:12:18.120 --> 01:12:22.810
So the air rifle for rabbit is more
accessible and more realistic for my, for

01:12:22.810 --> 01:12:27.860
what I have on in the week, obviously with
work, with where I can get to with it.

01:12:27.979 --> 01:12:32.210
If I lived further afield, a bit more
in the countryside, then yeah, maybe I'd

01:12:32.210 --> 01:12:34.280
apply for an FAC, but I don't need one.

01:12:34.310 --> 01:12:38.080
So, because when you apply, you
have to obviously state the firearm

01:12:38.080 --> 01:12:39.790
you want, why you've got it.

01:12:40.040 --> 01:12:41.060
Where are you gonna go with it?

01:12:42.140 --> 01:12:42.860
They want everything.

01:12:42.860 --> 01:12:45.350
Shoe size, brass size,
you name it, they want it.

01:12:45.800 --> 01:12:45.830
Mm.

01:12:45.830 --> 01:12:46.580
I can't be bothered.

01:12:47.680 --> 01:12:49.390
Is there training that you
have to do to get that?

01:12:49.890 --> 01:12:55.320
Uh, I don't think so, but I think
you'll get approved quicker if you have

01:12:55.670 --> 01:12:59.870
like a deer stalking certificate or
deer stalking, what do they call it?

01:12:59.870 --> 01:13:00.830
Deer stalking.

01:13:01.270 --> 01:13:03.160
The British Association are
shooting the conservation.

01:13:03.160 --> 01:13:04.000
They do courses.

01:13:04.035 --> 01:13:08.525
And then once they see you've taken
that course, cause they're, they're

01:13:08.865 --> 01:13:12.215
a well known organization, then the
police would be like, okay, so this

01:13:12.215 --> 01:13:13.965
person is competent with a firearm.

01:13:14.475 --> 01:13:14.865
Okay.

01:13:14.925 --> 01:13:15.155
Yeah.

01:13:15.165 --> 01:13:17.225
I'm just curious how it works over there.

01:13:17.804 --> 01:13:20.084
You were named best influencer.

01:13:20.815 --> 01:13:21.064
I know.

01:13:22.135 --> 01:13:25.855
And I don't really get it
because I don't influence anyone.

01:13:25.855 --> 01:13:28.215
I can't even influence
myself to do my hair.

01:13:30.385 --> 01:13:31.935
You don't think you influence anybody.

01:13:32.470 --> 01:13:34.410
Well, maybe to try and get fishing.

01:13:34.410 --> 01:13:34.660
Yeah.

01:13:34.660 --> 01:13:37.260
Now I can see that now, but
when I was, when I got out,

01:13:37.260 --> 01:13:39.860
I was like, Oh, pretty cool.

01:13:40.400 --> 01:13:40.740
Yeah.

01:13:40.810 --> 01:13:41.440
No kidding.

01:13:41.710 --> 01:13:43.530
Just put that one up on the CV.

01:13:43.539 --> 01:13:47.010
Next time I go for a job, I'm
trying to push my way into

01:13:47.010 --> 01:13:48.950
the eat game meat competition.

01:13:49.380 --> 01:13:50.550
Which one's that it.

01:13:50.550 --> 01:13:51.225
Game meet.

01:13:51.330 --> 01:13:53.130
Yeah, game Meet GAME.

01:13:53.130 --> 01:13:53.640
Not game.

01:13:53.645 --> 01:13:54.306
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:13:55.500 --> 01:13:56.010
followed.

01:13:56.760 --> 01:14:02.170
People will be going on funny websites
otherwise, but, um, so I'm trying to get

01:14:02.170 --> 01:14:06.280
myself into that 'cause it's like all the
posh people that go off shooting in Tweed.

01:14:06.610 --> 01:14:07.990
I'm like, I love that.

01:14:07.990 --> 01:14:11.380
So I'm trying to get an influencer
reward there, even though I've only

01:14:11.380 --> 01:14:14.350
done two videos so far and there's
loads of other people that have way

01:14:14.350 --> 01:14:16.680
more followers than me and get a video.

01:14:17.190 --> 01:14:18.780
But I'm just like, if I can get there.

01:14:19.430 --> 01:14:19.860
Yeah.

01:14:20.340 --> 01:14:23.790
Network, meet people
like we're saying, yeah.

01:14:24.020 --> 01:14:27.350
And then I'll be like, oh, hello, you
have access to this land, Lord Farquaad.

01:14:27.389 --> 01:14:29.669
Oh man, I'd shoot a rabbit upon it.

01:14:31.019 --> 01:14:33.160
I'm not drunk, I need your aunt, access.

01:14:33.360 --> 01:14:33.560
Yeah.

01:14:33.610 --> 01:14:35.790
Anything that you want the,
uh, the audience to know?

01:14:36.870 --> 01:14:40.580
Um, I just want for people to

01:14:42.800 --> 01:14:48.110
not worry so much about things that
aren't real, if that makes any sense.

01:14:48.110 --> 01:14:49.279
Like social media and all that.

01:14:49.300 --> 01:14:54.210
If you want to put stuff out there, please
definitely, definitely, definitely do it.

01:14:54.659 --> 01:14:57.925
Because um, I've seen some
awesome stuff where it'd be

01:14:57.925 --> 01:14:59.755
fishing or hunting or whatever.

01:15:00.335 --> 01:15:03.585
And, um, you may not get a lot of views
or a lot of likes or whatever, but it

01:15:03.585 --> 01:15:09.105
might resonate with someone, um, just,
just go for it, have adventures, meet

01:15:09.175 --> 01:15:18.154
old men, meet old men online and not
that bad old men online within reason.

01:15:18.384 --> 01:15:19.154
But no, yeah.

01:15:19.154 --> 01:15:22.144
Talk to people you wouldn't usually
speak with because you know, on

01:15:22.145 --> 01:15:23.885
some level we can all connect.

01:15:24.250 --> 01:15:27.370
We can all connect, all of us, all of us.

01:15:27.590 --> 01:15:30.900
And I don't like now that there's
this thing like, you know, you're

01:15:30.900 --> 01:15:32.920
fishing in a male dominated sport.

01:15:32.940 --> 01:15:36.570
And I'm like dominated the word dominated.

01:15:37.050 --> 01:15:39.619
It's like trying to
beat me up or something.

01:15:40.020 --> 01:15:41.580
That's not the bloody case.

01:15:42.650 --> 01:15:46.769
Like, you know, more men partake
in the sport because, you know, old

01:15:46.769 --> 01:15:49.379
traditions and institutional exclusion.

01:15:49.489 --> 01:15:51.070
We're here where we are now.

01:15:52.080 --> 01:15:54.900
But it is not a barrier at all.

01:15:55.180 --> 01:15:56.890
If anything, it's a complete joy.

01:15:57.445 --> 01:16:00.655
Amy, thank you so much for
being on the Silvercore podcast.

01:16:00.655 --> 01:16:03.175
I really enjoyed chatting with you
and I'm sure there's going to be a

01:16:03.175 --> 01:16:04.855
lot more that we chat about offline.

01:16:05.405 --> 01:16:05.915
Thank you.

01:16:07.165 --> 01:16:08.555
Thanks for having me.

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Peace.