Behind the Wings

Air Force veteran Art Elser reveals what it took to fly low, slow, and exposed as a forward air controller during the Vietnam War.

In this episode, Host Rick Crandall talks with former forward air controller Art Elser about flying more than 400 combat missions in the Cessna O-2A Skymaster and O-1E Bird Dog. From directing air support over the Ho Chi Minh Trail to helping Special Forces teams under fire, Elser offers a personal account of aviation, fear, courage, responsibility, and the long journey home. This one is going to be cool!

What you’ll hear:
  • Inside the O-2 Skymaster: How a civilian aircraft became a flying observation post, radio relay, and target marker
  • The forward air controller mission: Why FAC pilots remained low over the battlefield after faster aircraft departed
  • O-1 Bird Dog vs. O-2 Skymaster: How the aircraft differed in handling, performance, and suitability for remote airstrips
  • Marking targets under fire: How Elser used white-phosphorus “Willie Pete” rockets to guide attacking aircraft
  • Over the Ho Chi Minh Trail: Searching for trucks, supply areas, choke points, and hidden movement beneath the jungle
  • Night operations: Using starlight scopes, Blind Bat flare ships, B-57 Canberras, and F-4 Phantoms to find targets in darkness
  • Becoming “Jake 44”: How Elser built personal relationships with the Special Forces teams who depended on him
  • Courage and coming home: What Elser learned about fear, character, loss, and carrying the war’s memories into civilian life
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This episode is supported in part by United Airlines.

What is Behind the Wings?

Wings Over the Rockies Air & Space Museum has a podcast! Based on our hit YouTube and PBS series of the same name, the Behind the Wings podcast will cover everything from aviation history to the future of space exploration with thought leaders and experts in the industry. This one's going to be cool!