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Sam Acho: Welcome back to the Sam
Macho Podcast featuring Cliff Marshall.

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And today we have a very,
very, very special guest.

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And I know I wanna do this
introduction, but Cliff, you

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usually introduce our guest.

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So I'd love for you to introduce
our special guest for today.

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Clif Marshall: Yes, Sam.

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Today on the podcast we're
talking with Bailey Wheat.

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Bailey is driven by passion
to help athletes thrive.

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She currently serves as the
regeneration coordinator at Sports

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Academy in Dallas, Texas, where she
helps athletes through their recovery

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and restorative exercise journey.

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In addition, she is an athlete herself.

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For the last 14 years, she has
participated in roller derby and we are

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definitely excited to talk about that.

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But Bailey, more than anything else,
welcome to the Sam Macho Podcast and

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it's special because you are the first
female guest that we've had on the show.

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So welcome Bailey.

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Yes.

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Sam Acho: We're so hyped.

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Bayleigh Wheat: Yeah, so thank
you so much for having me.

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I'm so excited and I
feel a great honor to.

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Um, share my story a little
bit and, you know, I love Sam.

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We've had some really wonderful
conversations and so I know that this

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is gonna be, it's gonna be a great day.

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It's gonna be a good conversation.

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Sam Acho: Yes, and I, I know I don't love
doing intros, but Bailey, I had, I had to

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make a call before we started the podcast.

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I had

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Bayleigh Wheat: Uh.

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Sam Acho: I had to call Vmac, you
know, VMAC helps run Sports Academy.

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And I said, Hey, gimme some juice.

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Not just on, on Bailey.

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Also on Sports Academy.

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I'll give a little bit of background.

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So I live in Dallas, Texas.

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Bailey, you work at this
facility called Sports Academy.

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And, and I want to get a a little specific
for the people who are are listening.

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So Sports Academy, they train
NFL athletes, NHL Athletes,

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Dallas Cowboys, cheerleaders.

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They train, uh, MLB athletes, you name
it, they can train, uh, everyday athletes.

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You name it, they do it.

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But I'm gonna get specific, 'cause the
NFL draft just happened, this last draft.

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You all trained five first round picks.

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Uh.

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NFL there's 44 total NFL
combine guys that y'all train.

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Even the off season, uh, and I, I'm,
correct me if my numbers are wrong, but I

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heard 131 players from January to July in
the off season, that's like seven to 8%.

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Seven or 8% of the NFL was training.

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Bayleigh Wheat: Yep.

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Sam Acho: We talked about that,
also talked about the, you know,

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the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders.

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You talk about some of the, uh, the,
the work that you do, even with,

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uh, everyday athletes, not just pro
athletes, but everyday athletes and

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you are the regeneration coordinator.

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So when it comes to the modalities, when
it comes to getting players bodies, right,

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their minds, right, that is what you do.

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And so my question is, how did you get
into this field of working with some

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of the best athletes in the world?

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Bayleigh Wheat: Yeah, so.

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It's been quite a journey.

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Honestly, I never would have guessed
that this was where I would be at

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at this point in time, but I'm,
I'm happy to be here and I'm, I'm

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happy for the journey that I'm on.

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Um, I originally, I just liked sports.

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I liked coaching, I liked movement.

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And so when I went into college,
I originally started out

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actually in a junior college.

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Um, so pretty simple.

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Just wanted to get the
basics out of the way.

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I didn't have much, uh, guidance
on kind of approaching the college.

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Experience as a whole, right?

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And so it was something that I was
really kind of learning on my own.

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And by the time I got to choosing
something a little bit more in

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depth, I was like, kinesiology,
the study of human movement.

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Like, I love to move.

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Why wouldn't I wanna study that?

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And so I, I dove, um, deep into that.

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Um.

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Track in that field and was, uh,
studying kinesiology, pre-PT originally.

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So I was gonna go to PT school.

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Um, but then I actually did my internship
with Sports Academy my final semester

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of college, and that's where I really
got exposed to just how vast that

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the performance industry really is.

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And I wanted to go to massage school.

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Hold on.

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I'm gonna adjust my headphone.

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Sam Acho: Yes,

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yes, we got you.

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Bayleigh Wheat: Okay, perfect.

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I'm gonna just set that, uh, that last bit
back a bit from when I, uh, from school.

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Sam Acho: Yes.

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Bayleigh Wheat: so my final semester at
college, I did, uh, my internship with

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Sports Academy as a performance coach
intern, and that's where I really got

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exposed to just how vast the performance
industry is in terms of physical therapy,

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performance coaches, skills coaches, body
work specialists, recovery specialists,

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and all those kinds of things.

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And so.

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Truly that exposure there is what led
me into the journey and Sports Academy

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gave me that platform to be able to do
that and the, the parameters to be able

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to meet all of these wonderful athletes
across all these different fields.

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And so it's really just like history.

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I feel like I somehow just ended up here.

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Sam Acho: But, but you say
that, but you work with the,

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some of the best in the world.

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What is, what is the data?

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And I, I, I know that, 'cause I, I showed
up, you know, I showed up to Sports

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Academy, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm retired,
I'm not playing anymore, but I'm over here

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trying to train with these guys and run
with these guys and lift with these guys.

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These are like, you know, some
of the highest paid best players.

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I try to keep up, but also
then I would meet you.

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I remember it was a Thursday
and it's just like unbelievable

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regeneration like you think athlete,
you think, okay, they lift, they run.

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But with you with something
different, you have these like, I

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dunno what these long poles are.

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You're trying to like do
wanna do all these stretching?

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We're on our toes, we're spread.

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Like what does the day to day look
like for you specifically working

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with some of these athletes.

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Bayleigh Wheat: Yeah, so as that
regeneration coordinator, I really

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oversee kind of three big areas,
and that's gonna be our recovery.

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So making sure that on the passive
side, things like Asana or compression

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booth, hyperbaric oxygen chambers, that
we're really optimizing those modalities

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within the performance programs.

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That second part is, like you were
saying, those resource sessions.

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So those corrective exercise and
mobility sessions that really focus

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on optimizing movement efficiency, um,
in those joints and in those tissues

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that these guys are kind of constantly
training really difficultly, right?

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So when they train, you know, a max
speed day, instead of coming in and

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training more hips and more glutes,
where they're gonna just kind of

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continue to beat themselves down, we.

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Take one day off and we say, Hey, we're
gonna actually stretch these areas

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and we're gonna do some soft tissue
on the areas that need to be released.

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And then we're gonna try to optimize
that range of motion in those joints.

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So that's a lot of times where
we use the stick mobility.

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Those are those kind of long orange sticks
that we can use for, for leverage and

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stability to kind of put these athletes
in positions that they wouldn't really

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otherwise be in, in a training program
or in their, their football program.

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Sam Acho: Hmm.

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Bayleigh Wheat: So I would say that plus
just overseeing and coordinating what

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does their performance program look like
and how are they feeling right after they

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come in for a long, you know, training
week, how are they feeling at the end of

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the week or towards the end of the week?

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And then how are we adjusting their
program for the following week?

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Clif Marshall: Wow.

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I love that.

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Bailey.

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You know, my philosophy
is you gotta train hard.

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you have to recover hard.

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And it sounds like that's exactly
what you're doing at Sports Academy.

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Uh, one of the things that I thought
was really cool um, I was on the

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Sports Academy Instagram page, I
think, and I saw that you got to

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actually travel to Indianapolis and
you were a part of the NFL combine.

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can you talk about that experience and how
you kind of prepped the players before?

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You know, they run the 40
yard dash and everything.

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Bayleigh Wheat: Of course.

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Yeah, so it's a, it's been an
awesome experience getting to be

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a part of the Combine program.

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This year was my fourth combine
program my third year getting to

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go to Indy, so leading up to them,
the athletes going to the combine.

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Really our goal is to have a bit of
a education piece to these athletes.

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A lot of these guys coming out
of college programs have never.

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Had training like this or been put
through sessions where they're stretching

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and then activating and creating
range, and doing all of those things.

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So for those eight to 12 weeks that
we have those guys, it's a really

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awesome time to really just instill
in them how important it is for

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them to take care of their body.

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Because ultimately we don't wanna
just prepare 'em for the combine.

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We wanna prepare them for the next
five, 10, however many years that

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they're gonna be playing in the league.

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So I would say during the, the eight
weeks of the program, it's a little

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bit of that and educating them as
well as taking them through, um,

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these programs and these movements.

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But then when it comes to actually
being at the combine, um, it's a

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little bit more hands-on approach.

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So once the guys drop in, we have a full
protocol from the day that they drop in.

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We have a speed prep day,
we have a power prep day.

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We have all of these different preps
based on what they're going to do.

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Kind of in the following day
to get their bodies ready.

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Very similar to what we do
in that eight week program.

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Um, but then as well, these
guys are going to combine and

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they're sitting around, right?

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They're doing their interviews, they're
doing medical, they're waiting around.

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And a lot of times, like that's not
what their body is used to doing, right?

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They just got off an airplane.

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And so the body work side of things
is where that comes into play.

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So once these guys get done, whether
it's at five or I've had guys

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come in, um, as late as, you know.

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10, 11, 12 o'clock at night.

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Um, after their sessions, they've
done their interviews and just an

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opportunity to kind of calm their
nervous system down a little bit.

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Any of those areas that are tight
or kind of sore, achy, we're able to

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then address those things so that when
they do go to do their performance,

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their 40 yard, they're able to
perform and do what they need to do.

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Sam Acho: Hmm.

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Clif Marshall: Wow.

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Go ahead, Sam.

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No, I, I just gotta share.

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It's pretty cool.

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I just, I'm just remembering
from 2011, know, uh, I was

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with Sam at the NFL combine.

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I was blessed to train
him for, for that event.

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the night before, uh, as you said,
I remember Sam coming to my room

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and there's a lot of nervous.

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Feelings, there's a lot of anxiety.

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But to have him in the room and
just, uh, talking with him and

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praying with him, and then we kind of
walked through every drill together.

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Um, then the following day, watching
him go out and dominate the combine

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and breaking all time record there.

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I remember watching it on tv just
remember the thrill that I had.

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It was almost as if I was
out there running with him.

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Bayleigh Wheat: Yep.

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Clif Marshall: I'm anxious to know.

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Do you experience similar feelings, like
when your athletes have success like that?

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I.

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Bayleigh Wheat: Oh, 100%.

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I'll tell you right now, from this
year, probably our most notable, um,

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reaction, and I wish I would've got it
on camera, was Armand bu So when he,

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uh, ran his 40, he is noted as the guy
who was essentially screaming down the

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40 yard dash the whole way through.

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And when he did that.

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Everyone in the room
was absolutely stunned.

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And I think also being an athlete myself,
just feeling those nerves and that tension

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kind of build up leading up to them
actually hitting that, that performance,

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it, it is absolutely exhilarating.

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And so it's really exciting to see these
guys overcome those feelings and, and do

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what they ultimately just know how to do.

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Sam Acho: No, that's so good.

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And even Cliff was talking
about it, Bailey, it didn't

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hit me till he talked about it.

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Now I'm thinking about
you talking about it.

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When I was training for the NFL
combine, I mean, there are these

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nerves, like it's, it's, eight weeks
or eight to 10 weeks, like so focused,

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so dialed in for one day for to

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Bayleigh Wheat: One moment.

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Sam Acho: you're gonna
peak at the right time.

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And like, it's hard.

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I remember, I remember with when
I was training with Cliff, so he

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did my off season combine training.

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It's at Ignition and the facility
that he started, the founder of it.

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And, and I remember idea of, he
told me, he said, Hey Sam, when

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you go and when you run your 40,
uh, I want you to like, to pray.

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Like, you know, you gotta wait in
your stance for like two seconds.

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He says, in those two seconds,
pray that he, I said, pray.

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He said, yeah.

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I said, pray that God will give
you the strength and the courage

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to run your fastest times ever.

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That like goes to this idea of, man, it
takes courage to perform at the highest

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level on the biggest stage potentially
of your life, at least for at, at

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that moment, for that opportunity.

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You talked about seeing Armand
Armand get his, his pretty much

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record setting performance.

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What were your emotions like
leading up to watching him perform?

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Bayleigh Wheat: Man, I would just,
I would just stay up with rack.

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Let's just say that like
totally just like, um.

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Wrecked excited, right?

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Obviously there's a bit of those,
you know, is it gonna go well?

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You know, on my side of things, I'm
always just hoping don't pull a hammy.

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Right?

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Especially when as long as you don't
do that, I'm happy, you know, um,

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performances, you know, prs are great,
but at the same time, I just want you

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to be healthy at the end of the day.

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And so I think that there's a
little bit more of those feelings

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tuned in and hoping, like, did we
do everything right in our program?

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Right?

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Did we prep them in the right way?

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Did we.

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Did we loosen the right tissues?

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Right?

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Did we, uh, take them through that, um,
that regression period or that taper

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phase in the program at the right time?

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Right?

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And so that's something
that's constantly evolving.

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I think year after year, even what
we did last year has changed and

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evolved what we did this year, right?

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And so I think each year we're
almost a step closer and a step

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closer to giving these athletes.

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The exact formula of what they need to
be able to go out there and perform.

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And like you said, peak at the, at
the right time when they need to.

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Clif Marshall: Yeah, Bailey, you
know, it's also, uh, pretty cool

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that you get to be a part of
the NFL draft experience, right?

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You're at the combine, you're with these
players, you're watching them perform,

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and then you have to wait about a month,
um, until the NFL draft rolls around.

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And, and, um, can you just
talk a little bit about.

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draft experience, and I know that was
just this past week and kinda, the, the

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feeling that you get when you see one of
your clients being drafted on national tv.

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Bayleigh Wheat: Man, it's
just so absolutely wonderful.

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You know, like these guys train sometimes
their whole life for this moment.

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Right.

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And there's always, I think,
moments of of doubt, right?

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In.

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Everyone's kind of journey, maybe
some more than others, right?

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It could look a little bit
different for each athlete.

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And so I think as somebody who has a very
close and intimate touchpoint with these

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athletes, it's critical that we can.

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Kind of remain steadfast for them, right?

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And be somewhere that when they do
have these doubts, we can kind of

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help to settle them and, and give
them the confidence that they need

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without over boosting an ego, right?

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So it's all about kind of
maintaining that balance.

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But then of course.

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Being able to celebrate the wins
of, you know, of being drafted and

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maybe being drafted, you know, higher
or being signed, you know, lower

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than what you think your pick was.

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Like, no matter what it is, it's a,
it's a win ultimately because it's

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that next step in their journey.

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And so, you know, it's, it's a lot
of feelings and a lot of of joy

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really getting to see these guys
earn what they've worked so hard for.

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Right.

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And it's a, it's an honor to be a
part of that journey, I think all.

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Sam Acho: And Bailey, you talk about
the experience of those athletes,

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of the ups and the downs, the
joy, the doubt, you are an athlete

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yourself, an elite athlete at that.

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What was your experience like?

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Into roller derby.

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I wanna get into that journey, uh, a bit.

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Bayleigh Wheat: Yeah, we can
switch it up a little bit.

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So my journey into roller derby is quiet.

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Peculiar.

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Right.

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It's definitely not your everyday sport.

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You know, when I tell people that I'm
a roller derby athlete, I usually get

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the initial response of, oh, you roller
skating and you like punch people.

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Not quite right.

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You know, so, or I've seen
that on, you know, tv.

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It's probably not like
you've seen it on tv.

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Right.

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Um, but I actually got into it, um, just
growing up at the roller skating rink.

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So my family, uh, my mom and dad had gone
to a little skate party with some of their

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friends and my dad went and saw that he
could bring the family to a skate night.

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They had a bargain night on during
the week where you could come in

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and skate for a couple of bucks,
a person plus your skate rental.

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And my dad's like, why would we not bring
a family of four and to have a couple

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hours of entertainment for just 10 bucks?

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Right?

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We can go spin in circles
and, and have a good time.

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And it was all good.

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So I actually started
out as a figure skater.

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We started taking skating lessons
there at inter skate roller rink,

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and once you get to the end of their
lessons, it kind of transitions into

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a figure skating group or class.

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And so I actually did that for
about a year and a half, two years.

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And once it got to the point where
we started doing performances

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and whatnot, I was a little
bit more of a tomboy back then.

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And so they would pop out these, um.

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Dresses, these figure skating dresses.

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And I was like, oh, there's
no way I, I wanna wear that.

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It's just not really my style.

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And so it wasn't long after that that
I just started going to the rink.

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It was a bit of a rink rat.

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I just enjoyed going and
spending the weekends there.

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You know, like most young kids, I
feel like back in the day used to.

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Right.

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I, I hear people, you know, uh, the
next generation, they're like, we

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spent all the time at the skating rink.

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Right?

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And so it was.

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A little bit less popular, I feel like in
the early two thousands for people to be

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spending that time at the rink like that.

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Um.

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But I loved it.

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And when roller derby kind of spread
throughout VFW, so there was the

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original league, Dallas Derby Devils
was one of the original 13 leagues, um,

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in the W-F-T-D-A, which is the Women's
Flat Track Roller Derby Association.

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Um, we also had two other leagues pop up.

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One is in and one in Plano.

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And as those leagues started
popping up, a lot of these girls.

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That were getting into the sport, just
needed more time on skates, ultimately.

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Right.

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And so they would come to the skating
rink where I had been spending years

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already, you know, just going and playing
around and skating, having a good time.

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They would come and see me and
I was quite tall, kind of lanky.

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Lanky then.

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Um, but they approached me and they were
like, wow, you're such a good skater.

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You should definitely
get into roller derby.

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And I was like, okay, yeah, this,
this sounds like a good idea.

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Sounds like something I would like.

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I'm liking the vibes.

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What do I gotta do?

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Well, you gotta be 18.

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And I was like, well you
guys have like five years.

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'cause I was only about 12 or 13 years old
at that time, so I was still pretty young.

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But I was like, if you guys come
up with a junior league, call me.

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I'll come through.

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Right.

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And it wasn't probably about six months
later, I had somebody that approached me

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was like, Hey, we started a junior league.

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We're getting started next week.

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You know, you should come
out to our first practice.

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And so that's ultimately how I became
one of the founding members of one of

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the first junior leagues in the DFW area.

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Uh, the Rolling Rebellion, which I
continued to play for, uh, throughout

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the rest of my junior career.

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So I was about 13 years old, so I was 18.

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So I spent about five, five
years playing for the league.

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Um, and we.

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Traveled and played
internationally or nationally.

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Um, so it was a very, very cool and
fun experience kind of getting into it.

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Sam Acho: I gotta follow.

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Up real quick.

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Hold on.

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So like, what, what, so you say roller
derby people say, I've seen now that what,

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what, what does roller derby look like?

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Describe to us what a, what a,
what a game is or tournament.

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Bayleigh Wheat: Yeah, sure.

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So we call our games bouts.

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The roller derby bout is
typically what they call them.

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Um, played against two teams.

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Uh, you have about 15 people,
or you can have up to 15

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people on a roster, both sides.

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On the track or on a particular play,
you can have five people from each team.

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On the track of those five people,
you've got four people who are

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offensive and defensive blockers.

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They make up what is the pack?

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Um, their goal is to kind of stay together
and play offensively and defensively based

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on the person who is scoring the points.

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So that fifth person on the
track is called the Jamer.

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They are the person who scores the points.

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So for every person on the other
team that the Jamer passes, uh,

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you score a point for your team.

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So when you're playing, essentially
your goal is to get your

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jamer through the pack, right?

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While keeping the other jamer within
the pack or not letting them pass you.

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And so there's a lot of moving parts when
it comes to how many players are playing

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offense, how many are playing defense,
when are you kind of doing those things?

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And the game is broken down
into two 30 minute halves.

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Um, and those halves are broken down into
plays that can last up to two minutes.

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And so then at the end of
the game, whoever scores the

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most amount of points wins.

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Um, these can be, you know,

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upwards of 300 points sometimes, depending
on, you know, how, um, well, a team

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is skating or maybe even the mashup.

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You can see two really, really high
level teams that are both really good.

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But maybe they're both doing
poor defensively, so they both

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score a lot of points and it's
a high scoring game, right?

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You can have the opposite happen as well,
where they're both doing well defensively,

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the jammers aren't able to get through and
it can be a very low scoring game as well.

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Clif Marshall: Bailey, I have
to ask you, as the regeneration

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coordinator at Sports Academy,

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Bayleigh Wheat: Say that
one more time for me.

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Clif Marshall: I said I have
to ask you, as the regeneration

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coordinator at Sports Academy.

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We're talking about
your roller derby here.

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What muscles are most often
injured or what's the overuse

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injury with roller derby?

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Bayleigh Wheat: Hmm.

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Overuse injury is probably gonna be
a bit like, probably hip flexors,

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maybe glute, maybe low back a
lot of times in terms of overuse.

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But I would say, and uh, I would say
for the, um, an injury that's very

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common is, is gonna be an ACL injury
and as well as, um, like ankle.

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Breaks or sprains as well.

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So, but I think acls specifically
because of the position that our

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body's in when we're playing,
we're in a lot of flexed positions.

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And so I think that there are some
compensations that happen there, uh, that

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end up causing a bit of maybe knee valgus
as well as women, um, in general have a

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higher risk of non-contact ACL injuries.

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And so I think that that's why we see that
injury in particular a little bit more.

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Than we do any other injury, truthfully.

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Sam Acho: Hmm.

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So you're, we're talking Bailey
about your time in roller derby,

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Bayleigh Wheat: Yeah.

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Sam Acho: also some of the connections
when it comes to your time training.

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Other athletes.

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We were talking a couple weeks ago
and you had mentioned how, or it came

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to me, I dunno if you mentioned it
or I just was asking and probing,

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but people in the roller derby
world are coming to you for advice.

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I was talking to someone else
who trained at Sports Academy.

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They were like, no, she's
the goat of roller derby.

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Like, she's like, people
say, she said she's her

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Bayleigh Wheat: Yes.

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Sam Acho: derby.

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What does, what does it feel like?

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To be, obviously NFL is established,
but what does it feel like to be in this

00:23:17.273 --> 00:23:21.773
derby world and have people look to you
for whether it's advice or wisdom, or to

00:23:21.803 --> 00:23:24.173
somewhat be, uh, this, this, this light.

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Bayleigh Wheat: Yeah, I'd say it's a
combination of feelings, like in some

00:23:27.593 --> 00:23:29.513
ways it can wear on you a bit, right?

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It can be a little bit
overwhelming at times.

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Right?

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But at the same time, it also brings
a lot of joy to know that the.

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Wisdom and experiences that I've had in
my professional field have been able to

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benefit not only myself, but athletes
all over in the roller derby field.

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Right?

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And.

00:23:50.633 --> 00:23:56.813
Really be able to push the needles towards
legitimizing roller derby as a sport so

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that it is a little bit more well known.

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Right?

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Right.

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Now when a lot of people
hear roller derby, they think

00:24:02.393 --> 00:24:03.743
Saturday morning wrestling.

00:24:03.893 --> 00:24:04.283
Right?

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They don't think a legitimate, a
legitimate sport that should be

00:24:07.763 --> 00:24:10.583
broadcast somewhere like ESPN, right?

00:24:10.853 --> 00:24:14.783
And so doing and taking
certain steps towards.

00:24:15.323 --> 00:24:20.483
Legitimizing the sport, whether
it be using your real legal name

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rather than a derby name or Right.

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Bringing approaches to training and
programming that allow the roller derby

00:24:27.953 --> 00:24:30.023
athlete to truly perform like an athlete.

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Right?

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So.

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Sam Acho: I, I know Cliff got a
question, but you brought up, okay.

00:24:35.283 --> 00:24:37.023
What, do you have a,
what's your derby name?

00:24:37.023 --> 00:24:38.403
They, or, or do you want my real name?

00:24:38.403 --> 00:24:39.388
What's the, you know what I mean?

00:24:40.143 --> 00:24:41.433
the, what's the derby name?

00:24:41.433 --> 00:24:41.703
What's the

00:24:41.858 --> 00:24:45.488
Bayleigh Wheat: Yeah, so my roller
derby name, I picked this when I was

00:24:45.488 --> 00:24:48.338
like 13 years old, so it's baby girl.

00:24:49.058 --> 00:24:52.478
So I kind of picked it off of
a couple of different things.

00:24:52.478 --> 00:24:55.988
One, I was the first girl
born into my family, and so I

00:24:55.988 --> 00:24:57.428
thought it was kind of cool.

00:24:57.428 --> 00:25:00.248
I was always called everyone's
baby, baby girl, right?

00:25:00.248 --> 00:25:03.128
I was mom, dad, aunts,
grandma, that kind of stuff.

00:25:03.128 --> 00:25:05.678
So I'd kind of gotten used
to hearing that right?

00:25:06.248 --> 00:25:07.088
As a nickname.

00:25:07.088 --> 00:25:11.588
And so then in Derby we wanted to have
something that was kind of spunky,

00:25:11.858 --> 00:25:13.208
you know, a little bit more like that.

00:25:13.208 --> 00:25:16.148
And for whatever reason, that's kind
of what ended up sticking with me.

00:25:16.178 --> 00:25:20.768
But when I turned 18 and I started
playing with the women, um, and it was

00:25:20.768 --> 00:25:25.628
the first time that the roller derby, uh,
sport as a whole had been on the docket.

00:25:25.808 --> 00:25:28.808
I wanna say it was the 2016 Olympics.

00:25:28.808 --> 00:25:32.588
It was on the docket to
potentially, or uh, to bid for.

00:25:33.098 --> 00:25:34.388
Becoming an Olympic sport.

00:25:35.018 --> 00:25:39.698
And one of the things that kept it from
being chosen as that, you know, the next

00:25:39.698 --> 00:25:45.278
sport up in the Olympics was some of
those things like derby names, right?

00:25:45.308 --> 00:25:49.148
Mine is a little bit more innocent,
but some are not quite so, and it

00:25:49.148 --> 00:25:52.208
wasn't something that was really
family friendly and ultimately.

00:25:52.583 --> 00:25:56.273
You know, conducive probably
to some of the values that

00:25:56.273 --> 00:25:57.863
the, you know, Olympics hold.

00:25:58.133 --> 00:25:58.493
Right?

00:25:58.493 --> 00:26:01.433
And so that's when I started
saying, okay, I'm just gonna skate

00:26:01.433 --> 00:26:03.053
under, you know, Bailey Wheat.

00:26:03.293 --> 00:26:08.753
And, you know, now most of my teammates
call me Bay for short, um, on the track.

00:26:08.753 --> 00:26:12.233
But, um, yeah, so that's
the story of the Derby Day.

00:26:15.153 --> 00:26:15.813
Clif Marshall: Bailey

00:26:15.818 --> 00:26:17.348
Sam Acho: you baby girl, I
shouldn't be freaked out.

00:26:17.348 --> 00:26:18.323
I should say, okay, that's her.

00:26:18.338 --> 00:26:19.748
That's, they know her from somewhere else.

00:26:22.413 --> 00:26:25.408
Clif Marshall: Bailey, who has had
the greatest influence on your life?

00:26:26.888 --> 00:26:28.568
Bayleigh Wheat: Hmm, that's a good one.

00:26:28.568 --> 00:26:29.558
That's a great question.

00:26:29.978 --> 00:26:32.408
I'm probably gonna say my grandmother,

00:26:33.118 --> 00:26:33.198
Clif Marshall: Hmm.

00:26:33.278 --> 00:26:33.908
Bayleigh Wheat: truthfully.

00:26:34.028 --> 00:26:41.198
Uh, her steadfastness I think in
life and her faithfulness to the

00:26:41.198 --> 00:26:44.903
Lord and just how she has always
been who she is since the day.

00:26:45.368 --> 00:26:47.048
Um, I was born truthfully.

00:26:47.498 --> 00:26:51.398
Um, I can't think of
anybody else who has always.

00:26:52.208 --> 00:26:54.308
Maintain that stability, right?

00:26:54.308 --> 00:26:56.588
Not only in their life but
for their family members.

00:26:56.798 --> 00:27:01.988
And so, such a high respect
for, for her as a woman and

00:27:01.988 --> 00:27:03.098
you know, as my grandmother.

00:27:03.128 --> 00:27:05.108
So I would have to say her.

00:27:07.428 --> 00:27:10.998
Clif Marshall: What, um, as you
reflect on your career, uh, as an

00:27:10.998 --> 00:27:14.898
athlete and also where you're at
now, you know, at Sports Academy as

00:27:14.898 --> 00:27:21.918
a regeneration coordinator, um, what
would you tell yourself at 18 years old?

00:27:23.168 --> 00:27:23.973
Bayleigh Wheat: This is a good one too.

00:27:24.773 --> 00:27:24.893
Clif Marshall: I.

00:27:25.628 --> 00:27:26.858
Bayleigh Wheat: These
are reflective questions.

00:27:27.638 --> 00:27:32.768
If I could tell myself anything at 18
years old, it would be to put away any

00:27:32.768 --> 00:27:35.678
self doubt and to just dive all in.

00:27:35.978 --> 00:27:39.878
And don't be afraid of making
mistakes, because I think, at least

00:27:39.878 --> 00:27:45.368
for myself, as kind of a very type a
perfectionist driven person, sometimes

00:27:45.368 --> 00:27:47.738
the thought of failure can keep.

00:27:48.878 --> 00:27:52.058
From that opportunity to
really succeed, right?

00:27:52.448 --> 00:27:56.163
So it's like when I, when I think
of those moments where, okay, I,

00:27:56.168 --> 00:28:00.338
I might fail at this and I didn't
do it, I failed anyways, right?

00:28:00.338 --> 00:28:03.578
So I didn't even open that door
for opportunity to succeed.

00:28:04.028 --> 00:28:07.508
And so to set any of that aside, and
don't be afraid of making mistakes,

00:28:07.508 --> 00:28:10.478
don't be afraid of, you know,
potentially making a fooler yourself or

00:28:10.478 --> 00:28:14.348
stepping outside of your comfort zone
because otherwise you're not, you're

00:28:14.348 --> 00:28:15.428
just gonna stay in the same space.

00:28:16.418 --> 00:28:19.328
That's not what anybody wants to
do ultimately, or I would hope not.

00:28:20.178 --> 00:28:20.468
Sam Acho: Yeah.

00:28:21.228 --> 00:28:21.428
baby.

00:28:21.688 --> 00:28:24.263
Uh, I Girl Bailey.

00:28:24.743 --> 00:28:27.353
Oh, uh, Bailey.

00:28:28.088 --> 00:28:31.778
You're talking about not being afraid
to make mistakes, but you actually

00:28:32.048 --> 00:28:37.118
took a pretty big risk not too long
ago in getting back into roller derby.

00:28:39.248 --> 00:28:40.088
What happened?

00:28:40.118 --> 00:28:40.748
Why, what?

00:28:40.748 --> 00:28:43.238
Like, I want to hear like what,
what happened for you to get out

00:28:43.238 --> 00:28:44.378
and then what made you get back in?

00:28:44.813 --> 00:28:45.443
Bayleigh Wheat: Sure.

00:28:45.683 --> 00:28:49.043
Um, so I was a junior in college.

00:28:49.103 --> 00:28:54.353
Um, had been skating, working, going
to school essentially, um, and had been

00:28:54.353 --> 00:28:56.063
doing that right since I was a teenager.

00:28:56.573 --> 00:28:58.973
So I was pretty used to
that flow and it was great.

00:28:59.003 --> 00:29:03.443
Um, I had some different gate
sponsorships and was traveling, doing,

00:29:03.893 --> 00:29:07.493
um, offsite boot camps for roller
derby teams and stuff like that, so it

00:29:07.493 --> 00:29:08.993
was a really good opportunity there.

00:29:09.203 --> 00:29:12.473
But as I was in school and nearing
my graduation point, I realized

00:29:12.473 --> 00:29:15.803
that I really had not figured out
what I wanted to do with my life.

00:29:16.258 --> 00:29:20.068
In terms of, uh, a financial standpoint,
what was I gonna do, um, to take

00:29:20.068 --> 00:29:23.818
care of myself And roller derby at
that point in time, was not shaping

00:29:23.818 --> 00:29:27.028
out to be something that was gonna
be the end all, be all for that.

00:29:27.298 --> 00:29:30.448
And so I had ended up taking
a step away from my sport.

00:29:30.448 --> 00:29:32.518
I think that was late 2019.

00:29:32.518 --> 00:29:36.538
After our season ended, I just said, Hey,
I'm gonna take a couple of months off.

00:29:36.538 --> 00:29:38.218
We have tryouts in January.

00:29:38.218 --> 00:29:40.468
If I think I need to come
back, I'll come back.

00:29:41.258 --> 00:29:45.038
January rolled around and there
was just something in my heart that

00:29:45.038 --> 00:29:46.868
said, it's just, it's not time yet.

00:29:46.868 --> 00:29:49.268
You don't need to, um, get back into it.

00:29:49.568 --> 00:29:53.318
And so I didn't, I, and it
was difficult at that time to

00:29:53.408 --> 00:29:55.418
forego going to those tryouts.

00:29:55.418 --> 00:29:59.468
Like at that point in time, you wouldn't
have missed me being at a Derby event.

00:29:59.498 --> 00:29:59.858
Right.

00:29:59.888 --> 00:30:03.188
So stepping away from that
really gave that separation

00:30:03.188 --> 00:30:06.218
of my, myself from my sport.

00:30:06.878 --> 00:30:09.458
And, uh, not long after
that, a couple weeks.

00:30:10.133 --> 00:30:14.453
Covid ended up happening, and so
everything shut down anyways, so 2020

00:30:14.873 --> 00:30:20.693
through early 2021, not much happening
in the derby scene, but once things kind

00:30:20.693 --> 00:30:26.393
of started popping back up early 2021,
I started going to these scrimmages

00:30:26.393 --> 00:30:30.113
and some pickup games and just kind of
dropping into some practices and whatnot.

00:30:30.113 --> 00:30:34.043
But I really hadn't committed to a league
or to a team or anything like that.

00:30:34.388 --> 00:30:38.318
And it wasn't a couple of months after
that, and only really a couple of handful

00:30:38.318 --> 00:30:43.508
of times being back on skates in that
setting that I was at a pickup game.

00:30:43.508 --> 00:30:45.788
It was a going away game for
one of my good friends who was

00:30:45.788 --> 00:30:49.808
moving from Texas to California,
just a scrimmage co-ed scrimmage.

00:30:49.808 --> 00:30:53.708
And I went in for a hit on
somebody, um, that ultimately

00:30:53.708 --> 00:30:55.418
ended up leading to me tear my ACL.

00:30:56.018 --> 00:30:59.378
And so it was May, 2021
that I, I did that.

00:31:00.713 --> 00:31:04.943
Really kind of took me, I would say,
out of that ecosystem and away from

00:31:04.943 --> 00:31:06.563
my sport for that period of time.

00:31:06.683 --> 00:31:11.903
Um, 'cause after that, after spending
25 years of my life fully healthy

00:31:11.903 --> 00:31:15.593
and able to do all of the things,
it was really difficult to then have

00:31:15.593 --> 00:31:20.693
this, you know, short term disability
that, that kept me from being able

00:31:20.693 --> 00:31:24.173
to do the things that I've been so
used to doing for the last 25 years.

00:31:24.203 --> 00:31:27.353
And it was really a mental challenge to.

00:31:27.938 --> 00:31:34.028
Know that that was gonna be only a short
term, you know, situation and experience.

00:31:34.028 --> 00:31:34.328
Right.

00:31:34.328 --> 00:31:37.928
But in the moment it can seem very
daunting and overwhelming in the terms

00:31:37.928 --> 00:31:43.118
of, am I ever gonna see a, a light of day
that's different than the days that I was

00:31:43.268 --> 00:31:44.918
experiencing during that season of life?

00:31:47.318 --> 00:31:47.738
Um, yeah.

00:31:47.738 --> 00:31:49.418
So I get into it, huh?

00:31:49.448 --> 00:31:49.808
Sorry.

00:31:51.308 --> 00:31:52.028
Sam Acho: No good.

00:31:52.028 --> 00:31:52.748
It's all good.

00:31:53.483 --> 00:31:53.693
Clif Marshall: no.

00:31:53.693 --> 00:31:57.563
I just wanted to ask you, you know,
dealing with the ACL injury, how has that

00:31:57.563 --> 00:32:01.253
made you a better coach or a regeneration
coordinator at Sports Academy?

00:32:01.718 --> 00:32:09.278
Bayleigh Wheat: Yeah, I think experiencing
that injury, um, really gives me the own

00:32:09.278 --> 00:32:13.988
personal experience of what it's like to
deal with setbacks, to deal with injuries,

00:32:13.988 --> 00:32:19.448
to deal with not being able to, you know,
um, experience and approach life the way

00:32:19.448 --> 00:32:23.288
that we sometimes want to be able to,
whether that's physically or otherwise.

00:32:23.948 --> 00:32:29.318
And so being able to relate to my athletes
and to relate to people who everybody

00:32:29.378 --> 00:32:33.608
experiences setbacks in some ways, and
being able to approach those and let

00:32:33.608 --> 00:32:41.438
people know that it, sometimes it is,
it is a short term, uh, setback, right?

00:32:41.438 --> 00:32:44.138
Some people obviously experience
certain things in life that they

00:32:44.138 --> 00:32:48.668
carry with them for the rest of their
days, but ultimately it's their.

00:32:49.388 --> 00:32:53.978
Mental wellbeing, um, their attitude,
if you will, that they have control

00:32:53.978 --> 00:32:58.898
over, and it can really shape their
outlook on whatever that situation

00:32:58.898 --> 00:33:00.968
might be that they're experiencing.

00:33:01.448 --> 00:33:01.688
Right?

00:33:01.688 --> 00:33:02.438
And that it's okay.

00:33:02.438 --> 00:33:04.178
This is, this is part of real life.

00:33:04.358 --> 00:33:09.248
And I think that that experience in
my own self allows that connection

00:33:09.308 --> 00:33:15.578
to happen and be kind of a, uh,
oh, I totally lost the word, but it

00:33:15.578 --> 00:33:16.838
allows that connection to happen.

00:33:17.738 --> 00:33:17.958
Sam Acho: Mm.

00:33:18.678 --> 00:33:23.608
Just kind of continue on that
path, like makes Bay Bay.

00:33:24.593 --> 00:33:25.073
Bayleigh Wheat: Hmm.

00:33:27.323 --> 00:33:35.453
I think just being real, being, um,
in the moment, looking for those real

00:33:35.483 --> 00:33:41.033
and genuine connections as well, I
think makes me, me ultimately right

00:33:41.258 --> 00:33:41.378
Sam Acho: Hmm.

00:33:41.453 --> 00:33:43.553
Bayleigh Wheat: I'm connected
with myself, when I'm connected

00:33:43.553 --> 00:33:45.233
with other people in those.

00:33:46.088 --> 00:33:50.198
Moments, whether they're really
good or they're, you know,

00:33:50.498 --> 00:33:52.058
more of a poor situation.

00:33:52.688 --> 00:33:57.428
Being able to have that true
connection with those people, that's,

00:33:57.488 --> 00:34:01.868
that's what makes me, me, because
if I were anybody else, right, it

00:34:01.868 --> 00:34:03.218
would not, it wouldn't be the same.

00:34:03.878 --> 00:34:04.328
Right.

00:34:06.173 --> 00:34:06.323
Sam Acho: Yeah.

00:34:06.443 --> 00:34:07.223
That's so good.

00:34:07.493 --> 00:34:09.503
Um, I wanna go back real quick.

00:34:11.603 --> 00:34:16.223
Cliff asked a really good question about
who's had the biggest influence and, and

00:34:16.223 --> 00:34:20.333
you, you paused and you said your grandma,

00:34:20.783 --> 00:34:21.173
Bayleigh Wheat: Yeah.

00:34:24.778 --> 00:34:25.793
Sam Acho: what was she like?

00:34:27.113 --> 00:34:30.113
Bayleigh Wheat: Yeah, she is still
around and she's an absolute spitfire.

00:34:30.923 --> 00:34:31.343
Sam Acho: hmm.

00:34:31.763 --> 00:34:36.983
Bayleigh Wheat: She is, um, in her
eighties and she runs a private school

00:34:37.013 --> 00:34:38.813
actually out in Big Spring, Texas.

00:34:39.383 --> 00:34:42.653
Um, Mar off of Baptist Academy has for.

00:34:43.568 --> 00:34:44.798
As long as I've known her.

00:34:45.938 --> 00:34:54.158
Um, and she is, she is probably
the best example of like the

00:34:54.158 --> 00:34:59.438
ultimate lord servant, truly right.

00:34:59.468 --> 00:35:02.678
And just living her life in
such a way that truly spreads

00:35:03.038 --> 00:35:04.688
his life and his love, right?

00:35:04.688 --> 00:35:06.188
And he, she's able to do that.

00:35:06.713 --> 00:35:10.763
Right through, um, her school,
that is her ministry, right?

00:35:10.763 --> 00:35:16.223
But then even in just every interaction
that I watch with her, she's always

00:35:16.223 --> 00:35:18.383
got that, that in mind, right?

00:35:18.383 --> 00:35:24.023
Which is how can she share the light of
Jesus and share his word and share that

00:35:24.023 --> 00:35:26.483
redemption to everyone that she meets?

00:35:27.293 --> 00:35:31.673
And I think that that is probably one
of the most admirable attributes of her.

00:35:32.648 --> 00:35:33.698
It's always been that way.

00:35:33.908 --> 00:35:35.558
It's never not been that way.

00:35:35.618 --> 00:35:37.238
Like that's a crazy thing to think about.

00:35:37.238 --> 00:35:39.968
Like we think about people who
are, are Christians and people

00:35:39.968 --> 00:35:43.898
who are, you know, um, you know,
pastors, this, that, whatever.

00:35:43.958 --> 00:35:51.098
You know, and not always do you meet
people who are reflective of what they

00:35:51.098 --> 00:35:53.528
say that they are right within that truth.

00:35:53.798 --> 00:35:58.028
And this is somebody who I can't
ever even think of a moment

00:35:58.028 --> 00:35:59.768
where she was anything less than.

00:36:01.823 --> 00:36:05.303
And that to me is absolutely outstanding,

00:36:06.008 --> 00:36:06.428
Sam Acho: mm.

00:36:07.688 --> 00:36:10.778
Clif Marshall: Bailey, really cool
to hear you say that she's a servant

00:36:11.303 --> 00:36:11.813
Bayleigh Wheat: Yeah.

00:36:12.998 --> 00:36:15.668
Clif Marshall: that is a
generational blessing because I

00:36:15.668 --> 00:36:18.668
see you as being a servant as well.

00:36:19.508 --> 00:36:22.118
working at Sports Academy as a coach or.

00:36:22.508 --> 00:36:27.998
Regeneration coordinator, you are
serving athletes every single day.

00:36:28.358 --> 00:36:31.838
So can you talk a little bit about
that mindset of how you go into working

00:36:31.838 --> 00:36:35.468
with these athletes and, and how,
just like your grandma was a servant,

00:36:35.468 --> 00:36:36.848
you're being a servant as well.

00:36:37.478 --> 00:36:38.888
Bayleigh Wheat: Yeah, 100%.

00:36:38.888 --> 00:36:43.868
I think every day, and in each interaction
that we have, it's, it's kind of our due

00:36:44.588 --> 00:36:49.358
duty to live the truth that we wanna see.

00:36:49.718 --> 00:36:50.168
Right.

00:36:50.168 --> 00:36:54.728
And so I think being that servant and
having that servant mindset, whether

00:36:54.728 --> 00:37:03.188
it is your highest paid NFL athlete
or it is your, you know, John Doe that

00:37:03.548 --> 00:37:06.848
you know is working in construction
and simply wants to get better, right?

00:37:06.878 --> 00:37:10.598
How do we approach every person
that we make contact with the

00:37:10.598 --> 00:37:12.938
exact same way and ultimately help.

00:37:14.363 --> 00:37:18.443
Not make them better, but to help
give them the tools and the guidance

00:37:18.593 --> 00:37:22.223
that they can then take that journey
on their self and to be kind of a

00:37:22.223 --> 00:37:25.823
support system for them so that they
can get to where they wanna be and

00:37:25.823 --> 00:37:27.293
ultimately they earn it on their own.

00:37:27.443 --> 00:37:27.683
Right?

00:37:27.683 --> 00:37:28.553
I don't do anything.

00:37:28.553 --> 00:37:31.883
I have so many times that clients
are like, oh yeah, I'm just this way.

00:37:31.883 --> 00:37:33.623
Like this is, this is body by day.

00:37:34.223 --> 00:37:36.203
And I'm like, no, I didn't do this.

00:37:36.203 --> 00:37:37.373
I didn't do the work.

00:37:37.373 --> 00:37:41.633
I wasn't running the sprints or, or doing
the stretches, or whatever the case is.

00:37:41.633 --> 00:37:42.923
I just showed you how to do it.

00:37:43.268 --> 00:37:50.558
And so, you know, I think having,
having that mindset is, uh, it crucial

00:37:50.558 --> 00:37:53.828
to being able to approach any of these
athletes in any of these moments,

00:37:53.828 --> 00:37:58.838
no matter what situation or state of
physical capacity that they might be in.

00:37:58.898 --> 00:38:04.148
If they are looking to enhance
their human performance, then.

00:38:05.258 --> 00:38:08.258
In front of me is right exactly where
you wanna be, because that's what I'm

00:38:08.258 --> 00:38:12.368
gonna help you achieve is whatever
your most optimal capacity is within

00:38:12.368 --> 00:38:14.468
your, within that physical capacity.

00:38:15.863 --> 00:38:17.153
Sam Acho: And you do that, you do that.

00:38:17.158 --> 00:38:21.383
I, I, I'm not, you know, I don't want
to go too deep, but, uh, I mean, not too

00:38:21.383 --> 00:38:27.413
long ago, last week, I was watching you
train a 69-year-old woman named Nancy

00:38:28.748 --> 00:38:29.288
Bayleigh Wheat: Yes.

00:38:29.758 --> 00:38:32.243
Sam Acho: and tell, tell me about Nancy.

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Bayleigh Wheat: I absolutely love Nancy.

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She is an absolute sunshine.

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Anyone who meets her would
say the exact same thing.

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There's never a day where the
sun is not shining with her.

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Um, but she is an absolute.

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Beast of a woman, beast of an athlete.

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You know, I could not imagine
running sprints the way she

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does at almost 70 years old.

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I think it's absolutely crazy.

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Um, I always tell people I don't train
her, I just keep her reed in, right?

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So she is somebody who has really earned.

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Her phase in life right now, which
is she has built two multimillion

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dollar companies, right.

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That she has sold off and she's,
you know, now able to experience

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life off of her investments.

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Right.

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And she does have some
physical limitations.

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Um, I'll say she has a pacemaker, right.

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Which can.

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Change the way that we have to
approach training just a little

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bit because it makes it so that
her heart rate can only go so fast.

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I wanna say it's like
140 beats per minute.

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So we're not able to go over that,
and we're also not able to maintain

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that heart rate level for long periods
of time without her needing rest.

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And so there's certain training, uh,
things that we have to kind of consider

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when it comes to doing her workouts
as well as she also deals with a bit

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or has been diagnosed with vertigo.

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So when it comes to kind of double
vision and feeling dizzy, like those

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are things that are all, um, we, we
have to keep a close eye on because it

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can go south really fast if we, if we
don't stay cognizant of those things.

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Um, but otherwise, every day that she
walks into the facility, when she walks

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in for training, she's always happy.

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It doesn't matter if it's a
good day, a bad day, she's

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feeling good, she's feeling bad.

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She's always excited to be there.

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She's always smiling and
excited to see everyone.

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And so.

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That you can't help but be
happy when you're around.

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Miss Nancy.

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Sam Acho: Hmm.

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so good.

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Well, well, I know we're coming to a
close, uh, but before we close, I have

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a question and then Cliff's got some
cliff notes, uh, that he wants to add.

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Uh, my question and ask
this to every guest,

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now I'm asking you this
specifically because seen.

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People get the highest
contracts in the world.

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You've seen people go
down the opposite path.

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How do you win without losing it all?

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Bayleigh Wheat: Hmm.

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I think the way that you continue to win
no matter what, even if you're losing, is

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to ultimately have a winner's attitude.

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You're the only thing in life that
you can control is your attitude.

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We can't control the weather.

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We can't control how people
respond to us, right?

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But we can control our attitude.

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I would say too, we can't always
control our response because sometimes

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I think our responses to certain things
may, um, come from a little bit of

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a neurological programming, right?

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If we always respond to a certain
stimulus in a certain way, whether

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it be good or bad, our bodies kind of
become used to responding in that way.

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But then after that
response, time happens.

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What is your attitude about that response?

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Is it a winner's mentality
or is it a loser's mentality?

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And a lot of times with people with that
choose that loser's mentality either

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perpetuate the cycles that they're in or
they, they kind of stay stagnant, right?

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Whereas the winner's mentality,
even when they find themselves in

00:42:12.473 --> 00:42:16.823
that place of loss, in that place
of maybe stagnant, no movement,

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they're always gonna find a light.

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They're gonna find that next step.

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They're going to initiate that
journey, right, to continue

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staying on the winner's path.

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And I think truthfully, it is a
constant battle and choice that you

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have to make as an individual, whether
or not you're gonna be the winner's

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mentality or that loser's mentality.

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Sam Acho: Mm.

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And I

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Clif Marshall: That's,

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Sam Acho: I I

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Clif Marshall: uh, go ahead.

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Sam Acho: Sorry, cliff.

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Clif Marshall: Go ahead.

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Sam Acho: one more.

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Okay.

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Actually, no, I'm a cliff.

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You ask and I got, I got one
more little follow up at the end.

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My

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Clif Marshall: Alright.

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Sam and Bailey, let me get
my cliff note in today.

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My cliff note today is from Pastor
Billy Grant and he says a coach

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will impact more people in one year.

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Then most people will in a lifetime.

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And Bailey, what I respect about you
is you're impacting so many people

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in your job at the Sports Academy.

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You talked about first round picks.

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I know you're even impacting NBA players
who are coming out there to train for

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the NBA combine then the 69-year-old
Nancy that we're talking about.

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just wanna know, um.

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As you're talking about the impact, uh,
what brings you the ultimate fulfillment

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when you're working with either a
client or a professional athlete?

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Bayleigh Wheat: Hmm.

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That fulfillment, I think
comes from seeing their wins.

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So whether it's a combine athlete who
wants to run a particular time at the

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40 and then they beat that time, or
it's a Miss Nancy who is just excited

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to come to the session and run, right?

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Whatever that win is.

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I've even had clients who, um.

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Have come to me and said, you know,
this is the first time I've ever gone

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to the park and been able to chase
my grandson around, or this was the

00:44:13.373 --> 00:44:17.723
first time that I was able to put on
a pair of pants without sitting down.

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Like I think any of those life
achievements, whatever, big or small,

00:44:22.793 --> 00:44:29.333
that, that's the ultimate fulfillment
is knowing that I was able to help push

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them to achieve what they ultimately.

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Probably already had in the tank,
but they just needed someone to

00:44:36.263 --> 00:44:38.063
nudge them in that right direction.

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Sam Acho: All right.

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I know I lied.

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My last one, Bailey, uh, why do you skate?

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Bayleigh Wheat: Oh, I skate
because it brings me joy.

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'cause I absolutely love it when I
am on my roller skates That is, I

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think, the ultimate version of Bay.

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Like there is no denying.

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Me, whether I'm at a skate session
and I'm dancing around the skate

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floor or I'm on the roller derby track
and, um, you know, taking people out.

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I think no matter what, it's, it's the
most fluid and adaptable version of me

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that I get to do both and have, you know.

00:45:21.343 --> 00:45:25.853
the dance side, which is a little
bit more, you know, artistic, right?

00:45:26.033 --> 00:45:29.273
And then I have this roller derby
side, which is more of that athletic

00:45:29.273 --> 00:45:35.543
piece and kind of that athletic, um,
finesse, right, to being an athlete.

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And so, um, I do it
because it brings me joy.

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Sam Acho: Mm.

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That's so good.

00:45:41.308 --> 00:45:41.518
Yes.

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Every time we talk, every time we
talk, we start talking about skating.

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You just light up.

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You light up.

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And for me this time has been a joy just
hearing some of your, your story, but

00:45:51.518 --> 00:45:56.858
also just hearing Cliff who's been in this
training world for almost three decades,

00:45:57.188 --> 00:46:00.188
see you and just speak that life into you.

00:46:00.188 --> 00:46:02.708
Like I get so excited 'cause
it's like, man, this is real.

00:46:02.708 --> 00:46:04.328
Like y'all just met virtually.

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But it's like, man, there's
something about you.

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You're a servant.

00:46:08.048 --> 00:46:08.858
something about you.

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You are impacting people's lives.

00:46:10.748 --> 00:46:13.178
You're not worried about if
they're the number one overall

00:46:13.178 --> 00:46:16.268
pick or if they're a 69-year-old
who, who wants to as a pacemaker.

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you're just making people better.

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And that's one thing I saw in you Bailey
that just made me want to get to know you

00:46:23.888 --> 00:46:28.538
more, is, okay, who is this person that
is literally laying down their pride?

00:46:29.708 --> 00:46:32.678
Like you, you just competed against
a team in, in, uh, from Mexico City

00:46:32.978 --> 00:46:34.268
and apparently y'all dominated, right?

00:46:34.598 --> 00:46:35.258
I apparent y'all one.

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You know what I mean?

00:46:35.618 --> 00:46:39.998
So like, and you're the captain your
team, co-captain of your team, yet you

00:46:39.998 --> 00:46:42.398
spend so much of your time serving people.

00:46:42.758 --> 00:46:45.038
And so that servant's attitude,
I think you got a lot of

00:46:45.038 --> 00:46:46.118
that from your grandmother.

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And Bailey, keep on serving.

00:46:48.773 --> 00:46:50.063
Keep on serving.

00:46:50.093 --> 00:46:51.203
'cause you're making a huge impact.

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Bayleigh Wheat: Yes.

00:46:52.088 --> 00:46:53.348
Thank you Sam so much.

00:46:53.678 --> 00:46:54.458
I appreciate it.

00:46:54.728 --> 00:46:57.613
It's been an absolute honor and
blessing to, uh, to have this time

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here with both of you, so thank you.

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Sam Acho: Uh, thank you.

00:47:00.833 --> 00:47:05.513
And thank y'all for joining the Sam Macho
podcast featuring Cliff Marshall, AKA

00:47:05.513 --> 00:47:09.443
Cliff notes, and joining Bailey Wheat
hearing about her story and her journey.

00:47:09.773 --> 00:47:11.123
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00:47:11.123 --> 00:47:12.353
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