1 00:00:00,205 --> 00:00:01,486 You start pretending to have fun, 2 00:00:01,486 --> 00:00:03,117 you might even have a little by accident. 3 00:00:03,117 --> 00:00:04,578 Welcome to Primary Technology, 4 00:00:04,578 --> 00:00:05,789 the show about the tech news that matters. 5 00:00:05,789 --> 00:00:09,492 We're here live at WWDC in the Apple Park Podcast Studio. 6 00:00:09,492 --> 00:00:10,763 We're gonna go through all the announcements, 7 00:00:10,763 --> 00:00:12,795 and it's great because this is a well-considered take, 8 00:00:12,795 --> 00:00:15,006 not just a hot take, because I've been playing with all the betas. 9 00:00:15,006 --> 00:00:16,247 Jason's got the betas on there. 10 00:00:16,247 --> 00:00:19,710 So let's get right into it. This episode is brought to you by Nordlayer, 11 00:00:19,710 --> 00:00:22,452 Keeper, Macpaw, and you, the members who support us directly. 12 00:00:22,452 --> 00:00:23,613 One of your hosts, Steven Robles, 13 00:00:23,613 --> 00:00:25,544 joined as always by my friend Jason ATN. 14 00:00:25,544 --> 00:00:26,544 How's it going, Jason? 15 00:00:26,675 --> 00:00:28,650 I'm I'm good. This is fun. 16 00:00:28,587 --> 00:00:29,587 good. 17 00:00:29,449 --> 00:00:33,177 This is fun. I today's quote was brought to you by Siri AI. 18 00:00:33,177 --> 00:00:34,177 Do you know what movie that's from? 19 00:00:34,893 --> 00:00:37,889 Well, I don't remember any movie where Siri A AI says stuff. 20 00:00:37,889 --> 00:00:40,794 I think it was from p from ~ what what was Pennyworth? 21 00:00:38,209 --> 00:00:39,209 Well it is not 22 00:00:40,794 --> 00:00:42,558 what bad I don't know which one. 23 00:00:41,845 --> 00:00:45,396 It was you nailed it, yes, you nailed it again 24 00:00:42,558 --> 00:00:45,063 Batman Begins maybe? Okay. 25 00:00:45,396 --> 00:00:47,457 for our dub dub episode. That was Batman McGins. 26 00:00:47,457 --> 00:00:51,859 I I'm gonna be showing several Siri AI conversations because spoiler, 27 00:00:51,859 --> 00:00:53,560 it's actually pretty good. but yeah, 28 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,240 they actually got that quote from Siri AI. 29 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,371 So real quick, five star reviews, 30 00:00:57,371 --> 00:01:00,052 JD stores from the USA updated their review to five stars. 31 00:01:00,052 --> 00:01:01,963 Thank you for that. Mendosi from Australia, 32 00:01:01,963 --> 00:01:05,108 inspired by crazy stories of vibe coding and tried it themselves. 33 00:01:05,108 --> 00:01:08,366 We're gonna talk about some vibe coding and vibe extensions in a minute. 34 00:01:08,366 --> 00:01:11,067 But Jason, we're here, we did it. 35 00:01:11,393 --> 00:01:13,089 How many devices are running the beta for you? 36 00:01:13,089 --> 00:01:14,089 Tell me. 37 00:01:14,065 --> 00:01:15,967 well technically you're there and I'm here, 38 00:01:15,967 --> 00:01:19,641 but that's cool. ~ I have three devices right now running the beta, 39 00:01:17,443 --> 00:01:18,443 Well, you know. 40 00:01:19,641 --> 00:01:22,564 an iPhone Air, a MacBook Neo, and the Vision Pro. 41 00:01:22,564 --> 00:01:25,687 So I've been playing around with all of the twenty sevens. 42 00:01:26,315 --> 00:01:30,157 Same. I will say Vision. You you're doing your five Vision Pro, 43 00:01:30,157 --> 00:01:33,819 right? With the beta. I will say even my two Vision Pro, 44 00:01:30,690 --> 00:01:31,690 Yes. 45 00:01:33,819 --> 00:01:35,861 I updated straight to the beta. 46 00:01:35,861 --> 00:01:39,963 Much better experience, which is kind of the theme of the keynote and the event. 47 00:01:39,963 --> 00:01:42,184 We're gonna talk about some of the improvements that Apple has done, 48 00:01:42,184 --> 00:01:46,547 but Wi Fi connected faster, the Vision Pro just in general felt faster. 49 00:01:46,547 --> 00:01:50,469 And I'm ~ I'm bullish, I'm optimistic about the the improvements. 50 00:01:50,469 --> 00:01:51,469 Do you notice anything? 51 00:01:51,082 --> 00:01:52,082 I'm just 52 00:01:51,372 --> 00:01:53,384 gonna s I'm just gonna say on my Vision Pro, 53 00:01:53,384 --> 00:01:57,518 I'm so glad that I've been taking panoramic photos because I took 54 00:01:57,518 --> 00:02:02,482 a panoramic photo in twenty fourteen of Comerica Park at a Tigers game and 55 00:02:02,482 --> 00:02:04,323 it is now my environment that I work in. 56 00:02:04,323 --> 00:02:06,055 And it is amazing that you can now do that. 57 00:02:06,810 --> 00:02:09,442 That was the that is the best feature in the new Vision OS. 58 00:02:09,442 --> 00:02:13,875 I actually took a panoramic the morning of the keynote looking out into the ring, 59 00:02:13,875 --> 00:02:15,616 ~ just during the breakfast area, 60 00:02:15,616 --> 00:02:18,278 which last year I did not make it up to the media breakfast. 61 00:02:18,278 --> 00:02:20,339 I didn't realize like I missed that whole thing. 62 00:02:20,339 --> 00:02:22,640 I was always I was on the first floor, 63 00:02:22,640 --> 00:02:23,882 which I guess is like developer breakfast. 64 00:02:23,882 --> 00:02:27,964 I actually made it up to the third floor and and did a panoramic and made that into 65 00:02:27,964 --> 00:02:30,086 an environment in Vision Pro and it is incredible. 66 00:02:30,086 --> 00:02:34,389 And so now I'm wish I had taken more panoramas for years, 67 00:02:30,444 --> 00:02:31,444 It is. 68 00:02:34,389 --> 00:02:35,830 but I will be starting right now. 69 00:02:36,162 --> 00:02:37,626 Yep. Yes. 70 00:02:36,438 --> 00:02:37,779 Because it is 71 00:02:37,859 --> 00:02:40,281 it's impressive because it's not just you know, 72 00:02:40,281 --> 00:02:43,484 there was the feature where you can expand a panoramic Envision Pro 73 00:02:43,744 --> 00:02:46,576 and look around a little bit, but this makes it a spatial scene 74 00:02:46,576 --> 00:02:49,739 and then an environment. And in my panoramic of Apple Park, 75 00:02:49,739 --> 00:02:52,901 like you could look down and see like picnic tables and the depth 76 00:02:52,901 --> 00:02:56,264 of those versus the the rainbow stage in the distance. 77 00:02:56,264 --> 00:02:57,695 I mean it i it's truly impressive. 78 00:02:57,695 --> 00:03:01,458 It was fun. What's your f what's your favorite personal panoramic environment? 79 00:02:58,741 --> 00:02:59,741 Agree. 80 00:03:02,755 --> 00:03:04,958 personal do you mean of my that I of my own? 81 00:03:04,276 --> 00:03:05,663 Of your panoramas. Yeah, yeah. 82 00:03:04,958 --> 00:03:07,111 Well like the Comerica Park is pretty cool. 83 00:03:07,111 --> 00:03:10,256 Also I have a bunch of panoramas from we went to Alaska four or five years 84 00:03:10,256 --> 00:03:11,978 ago and those are just incredible. 85 00:03:11,978 --> 00:03:15,614 It's like basically the things that Apple has already put in there as panoramas, 86 00:03:12,269 --> 00:03:13,269 yes. 87 00:03:15,614 --> 00:03:16,966 only they're they're places I've been, 88 00:03:16,966 --> 00:03:19,079 right? Like I it's awesome. 89 00:03:17,684 --> 00:03:18,796 Yeah, right, exactly. 90 00:03:19,658 --> 00:03:24,448 Side note, ~ learned yesterday you can have thirty four total environments from your 91 00:03:24,448 --> 00:03:25,590 panorama images. 92 00:03:25,859 --> 00:03:27,807 Thirty four. Okay. I think I have seventeen 93 00:03:27,807 --> 00:03:30,628 I put in there. I like all the good panoramas I put in there and 94 00:03:29,891 --> 00:03:32,313 Yeah. Someone 95 00:03:30,628 --> 00:03:31,913 I just started yeah, it's great. 96 00:03:32,313 --> 00:03:34,504 someone actually said that number yesterday, 97 00:03:34,504 --> 00:03:39,197 so in case you're so I thought we could break down all the announcements into three. 98 00:03:39,197 --> 00:03:41,529 And I mean I've been playing with them with several several days. 99 00:03:41,529 --> 00:03:42,779 You know, the system improvements, 100 00:03:42,779 --> 00:03:48,393 I think there's some hidden agents and foldable hints in some of the features, 101 00:03:48,393 --> 00:03:51,035 Siri AI, and then the parental controls I want to cover at the 102 00:03:51,035 --> 00:03:53,366 end because that's actually pretty significant. 103 00:03:53,366 --> 00:03:55,988 You know, we both use screen time and parental controls a lot. 104 00:03:55,988 --> 00:03:57,429 But I thought it was interesting, 105 00:03:57,429 --> 00:03:58,551 you know, the keynote I 106 00:03:59,092 --> 00:04:01,764 Last night I stripped all silences from the keynote. 107 00:04:01,764 --> 00:04:04,206 And if you remove the intro and outro music, 108 00:04:04,206 --> 00:04:08,840 it's an hour and two minutes. So you remove all the pauses waiting for Siri 109 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,733 AI to like do a response and one hour, 110 00:04:11,733 --> 00:04:13,794 two minutes, flat, just from people talking. 111 00:04:13,794 --> 00:04:15,886 But and it was very different keynote, 112 00:04:15,886 --> 00:04:17,596 obviously. You know, we've people have talked about this, 113 00:04:17,596 --> 00:04:19,219 but rather than go platform by platform, 114 00:04:19,219 --> 00:04:21,300 it was very much here's everything coming to everything. 115 00:04:21,300 --> 00:04:23,562 And we're just gonna talk about all the devices throughout. 116 00:04:23,562 --> 00:04:25,714 Nothing, you know, little specific things here and there. 117 00:04:25,714 --> 00:04:27,804 So I don't know. How did that feel to you when you were watching it? 118 00:04:27,319 --> 00:04:28,319 Wha when 119 00:04:27,830 --> 00:04:30,293 was the moment you realized it was gonna be a very different keynote? 120 00:04:30,293 --> 00:04:33,306 'Cause for me it was the moment where Craig Federigi was like, 121 00:04:33,306 --> 00:04:35,729 We you all just want to know the name so I don't know what the name is, 122 00:04:35,729 --> 00:04:36,991 but I have a note. I'm like, Hold on, 123 00:04:36,991 --> 00:04:40,215 this is gonna be very different like as a keynote. 124 00:04:39,350 --> 00:04:40,411 The the Volkswagen 125 00:04:40,491 --> 00:04:42,912 the Volkswagen bus was hilarious. 126 00:04:42,912 --> 00:04:46,774 ~ I thought I thought he was really being serious about they're not gonna name macOS 127 00:04:46,774 --> 00:04:49,876 anymore. ~ because I remember I heard the ATP guys talking about that, 128 00:04:49,876 --> 00:04:51,117 like maybe they won't do this forever. 129 00:04:51,117 --> 00:04:52,698 And so I was like, no, this is like the year, 130 00:04:52,698 --> 00:04:55,439 but no, sure enough, we got Golden Gate as the year. 131 00:04:55,439 --> 00:04:58,721 I think when it was a little farther in, 132 00:04:58,721 --> 00:05:01,913 when they sp spent more than 10 minutes on the parental controls, 133 00:05:01,913 --> 00:05:03,924 I was like, this is very different. 134 00:05:03,924 --> 00:05:06,356 I've never heard this much about screen time in a keynote. 135 00:05:04,194 --> 00:05:05,194 Yeah. 136 00:05:07,108 --> 00:05:09,599 but I was thankful for it and and I got more details about that too. 137 00:05:09,599 --> 00:05:14,962 also it felt like this was the year of Apple is embracing like vibe coding. 138 00:05:14,962 --> 00:05:18,634 I mean it obviously describe a shortcut, 139 00:05:18,634 --> 00:05:20,275 which we can get into some details later. 140 00:05:20,275 --> 00:05:22,587 It's basically like vibe coding a shortcut. 141 00:05:22,587 --> 00:05:26,209 There's the incredible new feature about creating an extension, 142 00:05:26,209 --> 00:05:28,260 just like a personal Safari extension, 143 00:05:28,260 --> 00:05:31,772 just by describing it. And I put it in a video I published just this morning. 144 00:05:31,772 --> 00:05:35,814 Like I asked it for an extension that tells me the image resolution. 145 00:05:36,257 --> 00:05:38,028 Of something on a website when I tap it, 146 00:05:38,028 --> 00:05:41,060 and the extension just works. And that was on my phone. 147 00:05:41,060 --> 00:05:45,102 That wasn't even on my Mac. And there's agents in like passwords, 148 00:05:45,102 --> 00:05:49,525 which can like ~ change your passwords if it's a compromised without 149 00:05:49,525 --> 00:05:50,685 you even going to the website. 150 00:05:50,685 --> 00:05:54,458 So it just feels like there's so much adoption of like vibe coding feeling things 151 00:05:54,718 --> 00:05:58,150 and agents. And I wanted to share one picture I'm allowed to share, 152 00:05:58,150 --> 00:06:01,782 those I'm pretty sure. in a briefing right. 153 00:06:01,399 --> 00:06:02,399 We're gonna find 154 00:06:01,871 --> 00:06:03,366 out real soon if you're allowed to share it. 155 00:06:03,326 --> 00:06:04,326 As 156 00:06:03,906 --> 00:06:05,197 I'm gonna be rushed at the stage. 157 00:06:05,197 --> 00:06:07,508 All 18 people in this room are just gonna tackle me. 158 00:06:07,508 --> 00:06:13,850 But there was a kind of an AI area where they showed 159 00:06:13,850 --> 00:06:16,031 off AI and different things. They had the draw things app, 160 00:06:16,031 --> 00:06:18,649 they had shortcuts, but LM Studio, 161 00:06:18,649 --> 00:06:22,614 the makers of LM Studio, which is a Mac app that allows you to use local models, 162 00:06:22,614 --> 00:06:24,715 they had the setup at this table, 163 00:06:24,715 --> 00:06:27,776 four Mac Studios maxed out, 164 00:06:27,776 --> 00:06:31,078 so like 500 gigabytes of unified memory each, 165 00:06:31,078 --> 00:06:32,078 which 166 00:06:31,746 --> 00:06:35,146 I don't think they even sell that Mac Studio anymore because it's, 167 00:06:35,146 --> 00:06:38,369 you know, constraints. But this thing had two terabytes 168 00:06:38,369 --> 00:06:39,579 of unified memory collectively. 169 00:06:39,579 --> 00:06:42,410 They had them in a not a RAID, 170 00:06:42,410 --> 00:06:44,098 but you know what I mean, all collective talking to each other, 171 00:06:44,098 --> 00:06:49,533 a node. And they were just showing off local LLMs doing things like coding 172 00:06:50,074 --> 00:06:55,096 and annotating images and doing all these things locally and models using models. 173 00:06:55,096 --> 00:06:58,597 It just fera it felt very much like Apple is embracing this. 174 00:06:58,597 --> 00:07:00,558 And I thought back to like two or three years ago. 175 00:07:01,130 --> 00:07:04,394 It was rare to hear Apple say AI in general. 176 00:07:04,394 --> 00:07:05,836 It was everything was machine learning, 177 00:07:05,836 --> 00:07:10,372 maybe L L ~ but AI wasn't anything until Apple intelligence and then that's what 178 00:07:10,372 --> 00:07:12,715 it stood for. But now it's very much I mean Siri, 179 00:07:12,715 --> 00:07:15,459 literally the name is AI. So I don't know. 180 00:07:15,459 --> 00:07:16,459 Did you get that vibe too? 181 00:07:17,367 --> 00:07:22,150 Well, I think I mean, yes, I think also this is a thing we know that these 182 00:07:22,490 --> 00:07:25,892 L LMs are good at. Right? Th like they're good at coding and they are good 183 00:07:25,892 --> 00:07:28,973 at that sort of thing. I'll be real interested in like after you've had more time 184 00:07:28,973 --> 00:07:32,535 to play with the shortcuts, how what those limitations are because they're 185 00:07:32,535 --> 00:07:36,718 not like there are still they don't know all of the possible things. 186 00:07:36,718 --> 00:07:39,199 Like I remember listening to Vitici talk about how he built 187 00:07:39,522 --> 00:07:43,875 whatever thing he built, like the CTL for s for shortcuts or whatever he did. 188 00:07:43,875 --> 00:07:48,699 Like he had to like spend all of that time just trying things 189 00:07:44,566 --> 00:07:45,566 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 190 00:07:48,699 --> 00:07:52,001 and then reinforcement learning and then figuring out where the edges are. 191 00:07:52,001 --> 00:07:54,063 So I'll be interested like in what you think about that. 192 00:07:54,063 --> 00:07:56,024 But yeah, this is the thing that they're good at. 193 00:07:56,024 --> 00:08:02,679 And along with that, they make those features more accessible 194 00:08:02,679 --> 00:08:04,751 to more people because the number like 195 00:08:05,043 --> 00:08:08,625 No one that I know except for you like you bring the average way up because 196 00:08:08,625 --> 00:08:10,206 no one I know does shortcuts at all. 197 00:08:10,206 --> 00:08:12,538 But if I can count if I count you, 198 00:08:11,722 --> 00:08:12,722 Yeah. 199 00:08:12,538 --> 00:08:15,590 everyone I know does a million shortcuts because you do like a trillion. 200 00:08:15,590 --> 00:08:19,012 But most people don't. And the reason is they just it requires them 201 00:08:16,748 --> 00:08:17,748 Sure, sure. 202 00:08:19,012 --> 00:08:21,202 to get their brain into a frame of mind of like, 203 00:08:21,202 --> 00:08:23,985 yeah, I know I want to do a thing and maybe my phone could do it, 204 00:08:23,985 --> 00:08:25,116 but I don't know where to start. 205 00:08:25,116 --> 00:08:28,743 Being able to start by typing the words into the thing, 206 00:08:28,743 --> 00:08:30,399 like that's a huge, huge win. 207 00:08:29,834 --> 00:08:30,834 Yeah. 208 00:08:31,454 --> 00:08:34,313 Yeah, and that was rumored, it came true. 209 00:08:34,313 --> 00:08:35,816 A bunch of people on social media were like, 210 00:08:35,816 --> 00:08:37,155 no, do you have a job anymore? 211 00:08:37,155 --> 00:08:40,277 I think this is more exciting because one, 212 00:08:40,277 --> 00:08:42,267 it's gonna open up shortcuts to way more people. 213 00:08:42,267 --> 00:08:43,798 People who are intimidated at first, 214 00:08:43,798 --> 00:08:45,638 who didn't know anything about building a shortcut, 215 00:08:45,638 --> 00:08:47,539 they're gonna try it for the first time. 216 00:08:47,539 --> 00:08:50,600 And then if it does it even close to good, 217 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,330 they're gonna wanna know more and they're gonna want more shortcuts. 218 00:08:52,330 --> 00:08:55,561 So I think it's good. It's nice that we're recording kind of midweek 219 00:08:55,561 --> 00:08:57,222 now because I've now heard lots of stories, 220 00:08:57,222 --> 00:08:58,222 gotten to talk to people. 221 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,851 And just as a side note on the describe a shortcut, 222 00:09:00,851 --> 00:09:03,413 ~ Vitici, I've been talking to him all week, 223 00:09:03,413 --> 00:09:08,105 and he had been trying to do describe a shortcuts with very long prompts because 224 00:09:08,105 --> 00:09:10,997 typically with other LLMs, you would want to do a very verbose, 225 00:09:10,997 --> 00:09:15,049 detailed, complex request. And he was ~ struggling. 226 00:09:15,049 --> 00:09:16,980 Like the shortcuts would struggle to build those things. 227 00:09:16,980 --> 00:09:22,573 But I after I heard that, ~ I talked to someone and they said, 228 00:09:22,573 --> 00:09:24,374 actually just tell it what you want, 229 00:09:24,374 --> 00:09:27,806 like tell it the end result, and you'll probably get a better shortcut. 230 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,892 And sure enough, I actually went back and one of the things I wasn't sure 231 00:09:31,892 --> 00:09:36,323 if it would be able to do was use external APIs and build the get contents 232 00:09:36,323 --> 00:09:39,596 of URL in the shortcut and actually get it all right. 233 00:09:39,596 --> 00:09:40,886 But I was like, all right, well, 234 00:09:40,886 --> 00:09:45,679 let me give it kind of a brief just tell me what I what tell it wants what I want. 235 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:51,152 And I asked it, build a shortcut that uses the OpenAI API where I can 236 00:09:51,152 --> 00:09:53,863 ask a question and then just show me the result. 237 00:09:53,863 --> 00:09:56,324 And that was it. Like that was the entire prompt. 238 00:09:56,324 --> 00:09:57,325 And 239 00:09:57,629 --> 00:10:00,170 If you know, or if you've seen my shortcut that does that, 240 00:10:00,170 --> 00:10:03,881 there's lots of embedded dictionaries and there's complex like JSON that 241 00:10:03,881 --> 00:10:06,492 you have to pull from the API result. 242 00:10:06,492 --> 00:10:10,643 And JSON, it did it. And it built the shortcut, 243 00:10:10,643 --> 00:10:12,644 it got everything right in the get consensive URL. 244 00:10:12,644 --> 00:10:16,355 I asked it a second time to do it with the Anthropic API, 245 00:10:16,355 --> 00:10:18,235 and it got that right as well. 246 00:10:18,235 --> 00:10:21,636 And so I think ~ I'm even more bullish now. 247 00:10:21,636 --> 00:10:23,147 After trying it several times. 248 00:10:23,721 --> 00:10:27,343 When it comes to super long, like multiple if statements, 249 00:10:27,343 --> 00:10:29,724 one of the new features in shortcuts is like else if. 250 00:10:29,724 --> 00:10:32,055 So rather than having to embed multiple if statements, 251 00:10:32,055 --> 00:10:33,726 you'll be able to do like otherwise if. 252 00:10:33,726 --> 00:10:35,506 I'm excited about it. So 253 00:10:39,063 --> 00:10:41,110 Hmm. Yeah. And I 254 00:10:41,110 --> 00:10:43,869 was just happy that I got both of the things I wanted. 255 00:10:44,725 --> 00:10:45,808 Wha what were the two things you wanted? 256 00:10:46,091 --> 00:10:48,542 You don't even remember we did this whole long pre show. 257 00:10:47,809 --> 00:10:48,809 I don't remember 258 00:10:48,542 --> 00:10:51,863 There's only two things that I one is that developers would have have access 259 00:10:51,863 --> 00:10:54,134 to the off device models, right? 260 00:10:53,844 --> 00:10:54,844 Right. 261 00:10:54,134 --> 00:10:56,815 The developers would be able to use private cloud compute, 262 00:10:56,815 --> 00:11:00,357 huge thing, and that they would finally have figured out the app intents. 263 00:11:00,357 --> 00:11:02,448 So the developers can link into Siri. 264 00:11:01,961 --> 00:11:04,652 Yes. Yes. 265 00:11:02,448 --> 00:11:03,858 And both of those things happened. 266 00:11:03,858 --> 00:11:07,059 And as somebody with an app in the app store that was waiting for both 267 00:11:07,059 --> 00:11:09,525 of those things to happen, I'm so excited. 268 00:11:08,341 --> 00:11:10,046 That's right. That's right. 269 00:11:09,525 --> 00:11:12,452 In fact, I got emails like an hour and a half after the keynote. 270 00:11:12,452 --> 00:11:14,783 They're like, Hey, when you if w if you're done with this, 271 00:11:14,783 --> 00:11:15,783 could I get on the 272 00:11:16,097 --> 00:11:19,665 The beta and I'm like, dude, like I haven't even written an article about this. 273 00:11:19,665 --> 00:11:21,149 I haven't changed the app at all. 274 00:11:21,149 --> 00:11:23,896 Like I haven't even downloaded X Code twenty seven yet. 275 00:11:21,888 --> 00:11:22,888 Yeah. 276 00:11:23,896 --> 00:11:24,896 Come on. 277 00:11:24,306 --> 00:11:25,306 I 278 00:11:24,466 --> 00:11:27,748 need I need to find out how to integrate Apple intelligence into 279 00:11:27,748 --> 00:11:32,470 my coffee finder app that all it does is find coffee shops near you. 280 00:11:32,470 --> 00:11:34,482 But no, I'm not gonna do that. 281 00:11:34,482 --> 00:11:36,553 All right. So let's talk about system improvements. 282 00:11:36,553 --> 00:11:38,404 they started the keynote with this. 283 00:11:38,404 --> 00:11:42,976 There was the wall of 263, 284 00:11:42,976 --> 00:11:45,928 I believe, items. And I'm gonna link in the show notes. 285 00:11:45,928 --> 00:11:47,739 Basic Apple guy, friend of the show. 286 00:11:47,739 --> 00:11:51,841 He actually took the whole wall of text and actually made 287 00:11:52,157 --> 00:11:54,218 A bullet pointed list, numbered list. 288 00:11:54,218 --> 00:11:57,458 I actually opened this in one of my meetings this week to be like, 289 00:11:57,458 --> 00:11:59,799 let me ask about this. What is this? 290 00:11:59,799 --> 00:12:06,001 And ~ so there's 263 total improv system improvements. 291 00:12:06,001 --> 00:12:10,292 And I actually heard from someone inside, 292 00:12:10,292 --> 00:12:14,673 like they said snow leopard. And so that snow leopard update that so many 293 00:12:14,673 --> 00:12:16,884 of us have been hoping for, asking for, 294 00:12:16,884 --> 00:12:19,724 like this is it. ~ I think even internally, 295 00:12:19,724 --> 00:12:21,495 this is something that that's how they view it. 296 00:12:21,495 --> 00:12:22,495 And 297 00:12:22,603 --> 00:12:27,315 Promoting the beta, like this has been the most stable beta. 298 00:12:27,315 --> 00:12:29,116 Like I went through this whole rigmarole, 299 00:12:29,116 --> 00:12:32,187 Jason, if you remember of like doing another partition on my Mac 300 00:12:32,187 --> 00:12:34,198 to install the beta. You remember all that? 301 00:12:33,687 --> 00:12:36,762 Yeah. yeah. Totally remember that conversation. 302 00:12:34,198 --> 00:12:38,260 Well, 303 00:12:38,260 --> 00:12:41,561 last night I said screw it. And I just put it on my main MacBook Air, 304 00:12:41,561 --> 00:12:44,903 my main account. I'm using it right now to like do the riverside 305 00:12:44,903 --> 00:12:47,124 and share the screen. And it's great. 306 00:12:47,124 --> 00:12:49,105 it's real and it's wonderful. And 307 00:12:49,561 --> 00:12:50,842 the system improvements are clear. 308 00:12:50,842 --> 00:12:54,405 You know, a lot of them like airdrop being 80% faster. 309 00:12:54,405 --> 00:12:56,287 And not just the transfer speed, 310 00:12:56,287 --> 00:13:00,080 we heard that it's going to be like the people showing up in the share sheet when 311 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,792 you start airdrop. That's going to be faster. 312 00:13:01,792 --> 00:13:04,044 The actual like reliability of seeing people, 313 00:13:04,044 --> 00:13:05,996 like everything has been improved. 314 00:13:05,996 --> 00:13:08,037 We talked about Vision Pro, the Wi-Fi speed, 315 00:13:08,037 --> 00:13:11,330 Wi-Fi and cellular handoff. So like when you're leaving your house 316 00:13:11,330 --> 00:13:15,024 and your iPhone is still like hanging on by a thread to your Wi-Fi 317 00:13:15,024 --> 00:13:16,445 and just refuses to let go. 318 00:13:16,869 --> 00:13:18,600 All of all of that is gonna get better. 319 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,821 The messages sync where the counter and badge might not be in sync across like your 320 00:13:22,821 --> 00:13:25,435 iPhone and your iPad, that's supposed to get better. 321 00:13:25,435 --> 00:13:29,058 And all I mean, I just already feel all those improvements, 322 00:13:29,058 --> 00:13:30,519 and so I'm excited they actually they did it. 323 00:13:30,519 --> 00:13:34,101 Like they did the thing. They spent a year just doing like all the improvements. 324 00:13:34,101 --> 00:13:36,503 And from what I've seen, even on my iPad, 325 00:13:36,503 --> 00:13:37,814 I installed the beta on my iPad, 326 00:13:37,814 --> 00:13:39,585 my MacBook Air, my iPhone Air, 327 00:13:39,585 --> 00:13:42,968 and the Vision Pro. And I've had one app, 328 00:13:42,968 --> 00:13:44,839 ShareShot, which I love ShareShot. 329 00:13:45,056 --> 00:13:46,108 That app doesn't open right now. 330 00:13:46,108 --> 00:13:48,112 That's like the one issue that I've found so far. 331 00:13:48,112 --> 00:13:49,420 But everything has been solid. 332 00:13:49,420 --> 00:13:50,858 I mean, how has it felt to you? 333 00:13:51,837 --> 00:13:53,308 on the iPhone I think it's been great. 334 00:13:53,308 --> 00:13:54,709 That's the one I've had it on the longest. 335 00:13:54,709 --> 00:13:58,833 I did that immediately. And there there's a couple of random things. 336 00:13:58,833 --> 00:14:00,914 I'm still on the waiting list for the new series. 337 00:14:00,914 --> 00:14:04,097 I'm a little g getting a little bit so that means you are obviously 338 00:14:01,421 --> 00:14:02,421 still? 339 00:14:04,097 --> 00:14:06,158 not on the waiting list anymore for the new series. 340 00:14:06,263 --> 00:14:07,918 we're gonna do Siri in real time right here, 341 00:14:07,918 --> 00:14:10,375 Jason. I got my Siri app and I'm gonna screen share it in a second. 342 00:14:10,731 --> 00:14:13,183 If it's not if it wasn't bad enough that you just have to sit there 343 00:14:13,183 --> 00:14:14,714 and gloat because you're sitting in Apple Park, 344 00:14:14,714 --> 00:14:17,831 you're gonna also just gloat about the fact that you have it. 345 00:14:15,465 --> 00:14:18,774 Jason, I wish I wish you were here. 346 00:14:17,831 --> 00:14:20,589 No, it's great. It's great. I've been there. 347 00:14:18,774 --> 00:14:19,774 I wish you were here. 348 00:14:20,589 --> 00:14:22,241 I got I got there first. It's all good. 349 00:14:21,745 --> 00:14:24,916 I know, I know Wow, okay. 350 00:14:22,241 --> 00:14:27,185 Anyway, 351 00:14:24,916 --> 00:14:26,905 Okay, a little jab in there. That's good, 352 00:14:26,905 --> 00:14:27,905 that's good. 353 00:14:27,185 --> 00:14:29,547 no, but it's been great on the Mac. 354 00:14:29,547 --> 00:14:30,768 All the things that they fixed, 355 00:14:30,768 --> 00:14:35,992 it's it's amazing to me how many things that they fixed seemingly 356 00:14:35,992 --> 00:14:38,795 in response to feedback, which is a good thing. 357 00:14:38,241 --> 00:14:39,241 Yeah. 358 00:14:39,605 --> 00:14:44,408 It does also seem a little bit uncharacteristic from what we've what we've 359 00:14:44,408 --> 00:14:46,179 exp like experienced in the past. 360 00:14:46,179 --> 00:14:49,461 Not that Apple doesn't listen to to its users, 361 00:14:49,461 --> 00:14:55,049 but it doesn't s I haven't other than the Safari couple years ago with the tab bar, 362 00:14:55,049 --> 00:14:56,364 like how that all worked on the phone, 363 00:14:55,489 --> 00:14:56,508 the tabor, yeah. 364 00:14:56,364 --> 00:15:00,297 which they which they walked back before the betas were before they shipped 365 00:15:00,297 --> 00:15:03,849 the main version, right? But we don't typically see that kind of thing. 366 00:15:00,565 --> 00:15:01,680 That is true. Right, right. 367 00:15:03,849 --> 00:15:07,651 And I mean, even stuff like now the sidebars in Mac OS Finder. 368 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,000 Right. 369 00:15:08,151 --> 00:15:09,151 They've 370 00:15:08,362 --> 00:15:09,468 gone back. Like all that stuff. 371 00:15:09,468 --> 00:15:10,468 So I'm very happy with 372 00:15:11,211 --> 00:15:15,662 They made very clear ~ in several meetings that they listened to users. 373 00:15:15,662 --> 00:15:19,763 They even mentioned social media as something that they looked at for feedback, 374 00:15:19,763 --> 00:15:22,024 that they listened to developers and users. 375 00:15:22,024 --> 00:15:23,344 And so they made it very clear, 376 00:15:23,344 --> 00:15:25,245 even at the tech t the tech talk, 377 00:15:25,245 --> 00:15:28,526 which after the keynote, there was a small group of us that got to 378 00:15:28,526 --> 00:15:31,767 go to like another theater, and you probably saw lots of clips and 379 00:15:31,847 --> 00:15:35,348 and videos of that. ~ it was really interesting because Craig Frederiki 380 00:15:35,508 --> 00:15:39,509 he did a lengthy explanation and we were allowed to record the audio. 381 00:15:39,509 --> 00:15:40,509 So I did that. 382 00:15:40,467 --> 00:15:44,209 I didn't get a chance to like transcribe and actually I needed to learn more about 383 00:15:44,209 --> 00:15:46,280 the behind the scenes of Siri AI and the LLM. 384 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,181 But there were a couple things he made very clear. 385 00:15:48,181 --> 00:15:50,373 It was one, like we heard users and feedback, 386 00:15:50,373 --> 00:15:51,723 and this is a response to that. 387 00:15:51,723 --> 00:15:54,695 And two, Siri AI is not Gemini. 388 00:15:54,695 --> 00:15:56,655 Like if there was one thing he was trying to make clear, 389 00:15:55,724 --> 00:15:56,724 Yeah. 390 00:15:56,655 --> 00:16:01,259 is he spent 20 minutes with like multiple diagrams on screen talking about 391 00:16:01,259 --> 00:16:04,240 how we use Gemini foundation models, 392 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,421 but you know, to do something with Apple AI, 393 00:16:06,421 --> 00:16:07,421 it's unclear like if 394 00:16:08,106 --> 00:16:09,967 Did Apple distill Gemini models? 395 00:16:09,967 --> 00:16:12,648 Is it like meshed it together somehow? 396 00:16:12,648 --> 00:16:17,241 Like it's it's unclear to me at least how the technical side works on that. 397 00:16:17,241 --> 00:16:19,462 But he said even during that tech talk, 398 00:16:19,462 --> 00:16:22,844 like it's not Gemini. Like when you ask Siri AI something, 399 00:16:22,844 --> 00:16:24,925 it is not Gemini, it's not doing that. 400 00:16:24,925 --> 00:16:29,278 And even just so much as like we send as little information up to the cloud when 401 00:16:29,278 --> 00:16:30,648 you make a request as possible. 402 00:16:30,648 --> 00:16:33,080 And so I need to do more data and digging into that. 403 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:37,022 But it was to all that to say very clear that user feedback. 404 00:16:37,364 --> 00:16:39,996 was listen to things like the corner radii. 405 00:16:39,996 --> 00:16:40,996 You know, they even said, like, 406 00:16:40,642 --> 00:16:41,642 Yeah. 407 00:16:40,927 --> 00:16:43,249 we heard from you about corner radii and we we fixed that. 408 00:16:43,249 --> 00:16:46,792 We also got not maybe it's an improv not a fix, 409 00:16:46,792 --> 00:16:49,904 but 4K home kit secure video camera ~ recording. 410 00:16:49,904 --> 00:16:55,639 That's been amazing. That's I think it's been like six years. 411 00:16:50,453 --> 00:16:51,760 I texted you as soon I was like, 412 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,859 Did they just say the thing you've been asking for? 413 00:16:55,639 --> 00:16:57,471 It's been six years and then we finally got it. 414 00:16:57,471 --> 00:16:59,682 ~ we didn't get pan and tilt controls in the home app, 415 00:16:59,682 --> 00:17:00,682 but one step at a time, you know, 416 00:17:00,663 --> 00:17:03,265 we don't move too fast. Baby steps. 417 00:17:01,527 --> 00:17:02,527 Baby stuff. 418 00:17:03,265 --> 00:17:06,397 but but I'm excited for the for the improvements there. 419 00:17:06,940 --> 00:17:10,161 across the platforms. And before we get to some of like the hidden agent stuff, 420 00:17:10,161 --> 00:17:13,692 a lot of people have been posting on social media about hints in the 421 00:17:13,692 --> 00:17:15,722 new betas about foldable rumors. 422 00:17:15,722 --> 00:17:17,963 You know, the rumor is that the iPhone fold is going come this year. 423 00:17:17,963 --> 00:17:20,354 And there's two pretty distinct things. 424 00:17:20,354 --> 00:17:22,364 One, an iPhone app on the iPad. 425 00:17:22,364 --> 00:17:24,984 If you install an app on the iPad and it just has an iPhone version, 426 00:17:24,984 --> 00:17:27,256 there's no more like the 1x2X, 427 00:17:27,256 --> 00:17:28,486 you just blow up the iPhone app. 428 00:17:28,486 --> 00:17:31,227 You can actually reformat the app onto the iPad screen, 429 00:17:31,227 --> 00:17:34,448 which is which is wild. And then for iPhone mirroring, 430 00:17:34,448 --> 00:17:35,468 this is even more crazy. 431 00:17:36,051 --> 00:17:39,964 If you iPhone mirror in the iOS twenty seven betas from your iPhone to your Mac, 432 00:17:39,964 --> 00:17:46,709 you can now expand that iPhone mirroring window and the app will format larger. 433 00:17:46,709 --> 00:17:48,290 Like whatever app you're looking at, 434 00:17:47,469 --> 00:17:48,469 Yeah. 435 00:17:48,290 --> 00:17:50,251 it will format like a mini tablet and it's like, 436 00:17:50,251 --> 00:17:52,813 All right, we we all see what you're doing here, 437 00:17:52,813 --> 00:17:54,995 guys. I mean, do you think I mean this year? 438 00:17:54,995 --> 00:17:56,436 I mean, is it you think so? 439 00:17:56,852 --> 00:18:00,466 I that's what the rumors are. I I gotta be careful 'cause I don't I don't want 440 00:17:58,761 --> 00:17:59,761 no, yeah. 441 00:18:00,466 --> 00:18:02,888 the bouncers to come and attack you. 442 00:18:01,965 --> 00:18:03,392 that's very true. Yeah, that's very true. 443 00:18:02,888 --> 00:18:06,502 But I but I think I mean that it it would make sense that that 444 00:18:03,392 --> 00:18:04,392 No, thank you for that 445 00:18:06,502 --> 00:18:10,325 you would start incorporating those features now if what you were going 446 00:18:10,325 --> 00:18:11,557 to do is release it this fall. 447 00:18:11,557 --> 00:18:15,430 Right? It doesn't make sense to have those features incorporated if you're 448 00:18:12,874 --> 00:18:13,874 Right. 449 00:18:15,430 --> 00:18:16,902 not going to release it until next year. 450 00:18:17,438 --> 00:18:19,239 And there's yeah, and there's even developer tools. 451 00:18:19,239 --> 00:18:20,450 I forget what the app is called, 452 00:18:20,450 --> 00:18:22,702 but where you can like preview your app and all the different devices 453 00:18:22,702 --> 00:18:24,793 in this one window thing, and it does the same thing, 454 00:18:24,793 --> 00:18:28,375 you know, expand the window. ~ but before we get to Siri AI, 455 00:18:28,375 --> 00:18:32,298 so I feel like hidden agents are an interesting point here. 456 00:18:32,298 --> 00:18:34,860 I mentioned it before, but like the create and extension in Safari, 457 00:18:34,860 --> 00:18:36,684 but there's also this amazing feature. 458 00:18:36,684 --> 00:18:42,325 I I signed up for changedetection.io and set up an elaborate like push-cut 459 00:18:42,405 --> 00:18:45,627 automation to do what Apple released as a feature this week, 460 00:18:45,627 --> 00:18:46,627 which is 461 00:18:46,706 --> 00:18:49,778 Notify me in Safari. Or if you're on a web page, 462 00:18:49,778 --> 00:18:51,579 like of the Unified Travel Router, 463 00:18:51,579 --> 00:18:54,460 which I'm gonna talk about for like two minutes at the end of this episode because 464 00:18:54,901 --> 00:18:59,023 I love it and it's amazing. But if you if you want to be notified when it's back 465 00:18:56,024 --> 00:18:57,024 Ha ha ha. 466 00:18:59,023 --> 00:19:01,284 in stock, it's now just a built-in feature. 467 00:19:01,284 --> 00:19:04,706 You tap the extension area in Safari in the address bar, 468 00:19:04,706 --> 00:19:08,318 you can say notify me, tell it the change you want to be notified. 469 00:19:08,318 --> 00:19:12,170 This could be for price drops or changes for out-of-stock notifications, 470 00:19:12,170 --> 00:19:13,841 and then you'll get a notification. 471 00:19:13,841 --> 00:19:15,552 It can check hourly. 472 00:19:16,488 --> 00:19:17,708 I believe or daily. I'm sorry. 473 00:19:17,708 --> 00:19:21,469 I think it checks daily. So it can't be like every 30 minutes look at this price 474 00:19:21,469 --> 00:19:23,010 if it's like a really in-demand item. 475 00:19:23,010 --> 00:19:26,931 But you can do the notify me. And someone I asked, 476 00:19:26,931 --> 00:19:29,512 you can it even works if Safari is closed. 477 00:19:29,512 --> 00:19:33,433 So it's unclear like is that living in the cloud? 478 00:19:33,433 --> 00:19:34,893 Like how is that notification working? 479 00:19:34,893 --> 00:19:36,834 But it doesn't sync to your other devices. 480 00:19:36,834 --> 00:19:39,615 So if you set up a notify me in Safari on your iPhone, 481 00:19:39,615 --> 00:19:41,295 you won't get the notification on your Mac. 482 00:19:41,295 --> 00:19:42,916 It is kind of locked to the device, 483 00:19:42,916 --> 00:19:43,916 which is interesting. 484 00:19:44,213 --> 00:19:47,004 But that feels like an agent, like working on your behalf. 485 00:19:47,004 --> 00:19:48,614 The passwords that I talked about, 486 00:19:48,614 --> 00:19:51,915 where the passwords apple just go out and fix your passwords, 487 00:19:51,915 --> 00:19:55,416 navigate those websites behind the scenes without you even having to go to it, 488 00:19:55,416 --> 00:20:00,747 that feels wild. And a lot of the image tools feels not agentic, 489 00:20:00,747 --> 00:20:03,177 but you just see more and more of the generative thing, 490 00:20:03,177 --> 00:20:05,998 which there were mixed emotions about that, 491 00:20:05,998 --> 00:20:08,309 I feel like, when the photo stuff came up. 492 00:20:08,309 --> 00:20:12,280 You know, we've had cleanup since ~ Apple Intelligence launched two years ago, 493 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:13,840 but now we have the extend. 494 00:20:14,496 --> 00:20:16,617 For a photo and even the reframing. 495 00:20:16,617 --> 00:20:18,357 And I've messed around with that. 496 00:20:18,357 --> 00:20:19,597 I Kanoopsi for the first time. 497 00:20:19,597 --> 00:20:21,238 He was here, great YouTube channel. 498 00:20:21,238 --> 00:20:24,479 I followed him for years. And so we were playing around with the perspective thing. 499 00:20:24,479 --> 00:20:26,880 And, you know, it's generating stuff. 500 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,670 Like if you change the perspective on an image and there was something 501 00:20:29,670 --> 00:20:32,451 in the background, and more of it needs to be seen, 502 00:20:32,451 --> 00:20:35,162 like a plant, it's gonna generate more plant. 503 00:20:35,162 --> 00:20:38,583 And so this is generative fill or generative AI. 504 00:20:38,583 --> 00:20:41,434 And I asked a question ~ in one of the meetings, 505 00:20:41,434 --> 00:20:42,434 and I said, like, 506 00:20:42,794 --> 00:20:44,165 When I changed the perspective, 507 00:20:44,165 --> 00:20:46,807 one of the things they said you can like the eyes, 508 00:20:46,807 --> 00:20:48,559 if someone wasn't looking into the camera, 509 00:20:48,559 --> 00:20:52,212 you can change the perspective slightly and have the subject looking into the lens. 510 00:20:52,212 --> 00:20:55,715 And I was like, Well, okay. If you do that, 511 00:20:55,715 --> 00:21:00,319 are you like generating eyes? Like are you generating pixels? 512 00:20:58,243 --> 00:20:59,243 Yeah. 513 00:21:00,319 --> 00:21:01,820 So it's looking at the camera? 514 00:21:01,820 --> 00:21:05,564 And the answer was very, well, 515 00:21:05,564 --> 00:21:09,707 we're really pixels. Basically like pixels and stuff, 516 00:21:09,707 --> 00:21:10,707 and they're moving. 517 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,764 And ~ it's not you know, they didn't want to say it was like generating 518 00:21:13,764 --> 00:21:16,407 it out of whole cloth. So it's an interesting line they're trying to 519 00:21:16,460 --> 00:21:19,260 I think they're trying to distance themselves from like Google and Samsung, 520 00:21:19,260 --> 00:21:21,753 which is like put a hot air balloon behind me in this picture, 521 00:21:21,753 --> 00:21:25,038 and making adjustments versus creation. 522 00:21:25,038 --> 00:21:26,099 But anyway, I just said a lot of things, 523 00:21:26,099 --> 00:21:27,099 but but give me your thoughts. 524 00:21:27,036 --> 00:21:28,938 So I d I played around with this. 525 00:21:28,938 --> 00:21:32,462 I took a photo that I took when I was in Montreal in the pit. 526 00:21:32,462 --> 00:21:33,593 Whoops, hold on. Let me see if I can get it. 527 00:21:33,593 --> 00:21:35,124 So this is the original picture. 528 00:21:33,694 --> 00:21:34,771 I like I like you squinting. 529 00:21:35,124 --> 00:21:36,506 And then this was the new one, 530 00:21:36,506 --> 00:21:40,509 which is funny because there's a bicycle in front of the Ferrari garage, 531 00:21:40,509 --> 00:21:43,031 which is not there. There's no bicycle there. 532 00:21:40,966 --> 00:21:43,995 And okay. Okay. Really? 533 00:21:43,031 --> 00:21:45,895 But it's like, so this is the original one. 534 00:21:45,895 --> 00:21:47,777 And then it goes to the new one. 535 00:21:46,698 --> 00:21:47,698 Yeah. 536 00:21:47,777 --> 00:21:50,119 So like it it knew the pit lane thing, 537 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,119 so it fixed that. 538 00:21:51,307 --> 00:21:54,258 Right. So and then it but it just generated all this stuff over there, 539 00:21:54,258 --> 00:21:56,628 which was clearly not there because that's the Ferrari garage. 540 00:21:56,628 --> 00:21:59,059 There's a car in there. And it put like a bicycle there. 541 00:21:59,059 --> 00:22:01,870 It's so but that's but the point is, 542 00:22:00,283 --> 00:22:01,283 Interesting. 543 00:22:01,870 --> 00:22:07,331 it did a good everything it put in there looks pretty decent. 544 00:22:07,331 --> 00:22:10,632 It just didn't know that like the reason I picked this photo is I'm like, 545 00:22:10,632 --> 00:22:16,044 is it gonna draw from the context of where I'm at and figure out what should 546 00:22:16,044 --> 00:22:19,685 be there? Or is it only looking at the pixels right next to it and going, 547 00:22:19,685 --> 00:22:20,685 just extend? 548 00:22:20,854 --> 00:22:22,631 Right. And it seems like it did the latter. 549 00:22:23,551 --> 00:22:26,855 Well, I'm going to do something probably ill advised and try to do 550 00:22:26,855 --> 00:22:29,117 an extend picture live here on the show. 551 00:22:29,117 --> 00:22:33,001 So I also got to meet I also got to meet Bridget Carey from CNIT, 552 00:22:30,112 --> 00:22:31,112 Okay. 553 00:22:33,001 --> 00:22:35,167 who's awesome. And for this one, 554 00:22:35,167 --> 00:22:39,599 I when I first did extend, I did this the other day and it like gave 555 00:22:39,599 --> 00:22:43,853 us more arms and torso. So I'm curious ~ what it's gonna do here. 556 00:22:43,853 --> 00:22:45,035 But 557 00:22:44,503 --> 00:22:45,503 Well and to be clear, 558 00:22:45,194 --> 00:22:48,411 mine was actually a reframe, but if you reframe a photo, 559 00:22:48,411 --> 00:22:53,532 it has to do extend as well because you are like distorting the viewpoint 560 00:22:51,742 --> 00:22:52,742 Right. 561 00:22:53,532 --> 00:22:56,167 and then to make it a square photo it has to fill that in somehow. 562 00:22:57,419 --> 00:23:01,220 Right. And so let me ~ let me adjust the crop here and extend this. 563 00:23:01,220 --> 00:23:04,851 The few times I've done it, like it's been genuinely impressive, 564 00:23:04,851 --> 00:23:10,003 like what it's doing, how well it will like with the Canoopsi photo I took, 565 00:23:10,003 --> 00:23:13,684 the plant that was behind them got generated as like a full plant, 566 00:23:13,684 --> 00:23:16,685 and it was really good. And in the original you could only see like a couple leaves. 567 00:23:14,093 --> 00:23:15,093 Sure. 568 00:23:16,685 --> 00:23:19,685 ~ but it's interesting, 569 00:23:19,685 --> 00:23:21,386 you know, how far you'll be able to push this. 570 00:23:21,386 --> 00:23:22,796 We'll have to do more testing over the summer. 571 00:23:22,796 --> 00:23:25,257 Like how much can I generate from a thing? 572 00:23:25,755 --> 00:23:29,929 And you can always bring these photos into image playgrounds and add stuff. 573 00:23:29,929 --> 00:23:34,204 But as you can see here, now I can't remember if that guy was in the was that 574 00:23:34,204 --> 00:23:36,306 guy in the original image? I'm not sure. 575 00:23:36,306 --> 00:23:37,306 But 576 00:23:36,437 --> 00:23:37,437 If you click 577 00:23:37,018 --> 00:23:40,045 on it, doesn't it sh doesn't it ~ does it give you the option? 578 00:23:39,370 --> 00:23:40,370 For the extend 579 00:23:40,220 --> 00:23:44,191 for the extend one, ~ I'm gonna reset the extend so we can see the original, 580 00:23:44,191 --> 00:23:48,562 but you can see like Bridget's arm got longer and it added more arm for me. 581 00:23:48,562 --> 00:23:50,603 Like so I'm like holding the camera farther away. 582 00:23:49,058 --> 00:23:50,058 Yeah. 583 00:23:50,603 --> 00:23:53,742 And if I go back, you know, you can see that that wasn't I don't think that 584 00:23:53,742 --> 00:23:57,524 guy was there. I think it definitely it definitely put a guy there. 585 00:23:54,387 --> 00:23:58,221 No, I don't think so. Unless they know something you don't know. 586 00:23:57,524 --> 00:24:01,185 Now wait a minute. Yeah. 587 00:24:01,185 --> 00:24:05,826 So it it's interesting and I've heard I saw people on social media, 588 00:24:05,826 --> 00:24:07,977 you know, saying this is like AI slop and stuff. 589 00:24:08,807 --> 00:24:12,779 You tell me, Jason. I I personally don't put this in the same category 590 00:24:12,779 --> 00:24:14,850 as like in one of the briefings, 591 00:24:14,850 --> 00:24:21,573 draw things was like creating a video of a polar bear or some bear like 592 00:24:21,593 --> 00:24:24,715 talking. I'm like, okay, that's generative AI. 593 00:24:24,715 --> 00:24:26,746 If you want to put something in AI slap category, 594 00:24:26,746 --> 00:24:30,817 like that's that. I don't put this in the AI slap category personally, 595 00:24:30,817 --> 00:24:32,728 but I understand it's like a fine distinction. 596 00:24:32,728 --> 00:24:33,929 But what what do you 597 00:24:33,367 --> 00:24:34,367 I don't think it's 598 00:24:33,957 --> 00:24:35,328 no, don't think that's a fine distinction. 599 00:24:35,328 --> 00:24:39,810 I don't think this is slop. Because I think AI slop that you know me, 600 00:24:37,138 --> 00:24:38,138 Right. 601 00:24:39,810 --> 00:24:42,647 I'm a word person. I get very fixated on the exact definite. 602 00:24:41,128 --> 00:24:42,128 Yeah. 603 00:24:42,647 --> 00:24:46,632 But I think what people mean by AI slop is a thing that's not real at 604 00:24:46,632 --> 00:24:50,514 all that only exists for the purpose of s shoving content in our faces. 605 00:24:50,514 --> 00:24:55,976 It's just like it it it's the a it's the content version of all of 606 00:24:55,976 --> 00:24:58,577 the alphabet soup products you find on Amazon. 607 00:24:58,577 --> 00:25:00,848 Remember when we had these conversations about like, 608 00:24:59,449 --> 00:25:03,194 Mm, yes, yes. ~ 609 00:25:00,848 --> 00:25:02,369 does this product even real? 610 00:25:02,657 --> 00:25:05,378 It's just a bunch of gibberish words and a bunch of AI generated 611 00:25:03,416 --> 00:25:04,416 so yes. 612 00:25:05,378 --> 00:25:10,089 photos. That's slop. This is you can still have feelings about whether 613 00:25:10,169 --> 00:25:12,300 we should be doing this or not doing this or whatever. 614 00:25:12,300 --> 00:25:15,491 But what's essentially happening is like it is you you can already 615 00:25:15,491 --> 00:25:17,632 do this in Photoshop. You can pull up an image in Photoshop and 616 00:25:17,632 --> 00:25:18,902 j use generative fill and be like, 617 00:25:18,902 --> 00:25:21,663 do this to the photo. I don't know, 618 00:25:20,271 --> 00:25:21,271 Right, right. 619 00:25:21,663 --> 00:25:25,774 like as a photographer, I mean I did the test to see what would happen. 620 00:25:25,774 --> 00:25:27,735 I I don't I don't 621 00:25:28,439 --> 00:25:31,810 think that this is a good I always have a problem Steven when we give people 622 00:25:31,810 --> 00:25:35,362 a solution that makes it easier for them to just do a dumb thing in the first place, 623 00:25:35,313 --> 00:25:36,313 Sure. 624 00:25:35,362 --> 00:25:39,093 which is like, well just look at your photo before you take it. 625 00:25:39,093 --> 00:25:42,495 Are you like there are some scenarios where you're in a rush and you want 626 00:25:40,487 --> 00:25:41,487 Yeah. 627 00:25:42,495 --> 00:25:45,486 to fix something later, but also just take a beat. 628 00:25:45,486 --> 00:25:47,687 Think a little bit more about the photo and take it. 629 00:25:46,334 --> 00:25:47,334 Well 630 00:25:48,307 --> 00:25:50,250 well a a counterpoint to that, 631 00:25:50,250 --> 00:25:54,076 I did not have a beat when I was trying to take a selfie with John Turnus, 632 00:25:54,076 --> 00:25:57,312 but I'm also not gonna open that picture right now in Apple Park and 633 00:25:57,312 --> 00:25:59,946 try to extend it. I feel like then I might get I might get rushed. 634 00:25:59,946 --> 00:26:00,946 The stage might get rushed. 635 00:26:00,023 --> 00:26:01,023 But also you 636 00:26:01,015 --> 00:26:03,181 that's the most important photo you've ever taken of yourself, 637 00:26:03,181 --> 00:26:06,498 Steven. So I feel like it was worth taking making sure you get it right. 638 00:26:04,783 --> 00:26:05,783 Well 639 00:26:07,649 --> 00:26:09,783 it might have been my last opportun you you never know if it's your last 640 00:26:09,783 --> 00:26:10,875 opportunity. Anyway. 641 00:26:10,239 --> 00:26:11,239 And though that photo 642 00:26:11,213 --> 00:26:13,072 if you were to extend it or reframe it or whatever, 643 00:26:13,072 --> 00:26:14,429 it wouldn't have the same meaning to you. 644 00:26:15,401 --> 00:26:19,253 True, but maybe I can change the perspective so he's actually looking at the camera. 645 00:26:19,253 --> 00:26:20,424 You know what I mean instead of the screen. 646 00:26:20,424 --> 00:26:23,555 But anyway, they're hard. 647 00:26:20,587 --> 00:26:24,420 So and eye eyes are the hardest thing for AI to d to get right. 648 00:26:23,555 --> 00:26:26,017 They're hard. They're hard. All right, 649 00:26:24,420 --> 00:26:25,420 So 650 00:26:26,017 --> 00:26:29,419 let's talk about Siri AI. So in the tech talk after the keynote, 651 00:26:29,419 --> 00:26:33,001 Mike Rockwell was there along with Craig Federighi and others. 652 00:26:33,001 --> 00:26:37,283 And what was impressive, it's it was live demos on stage. 653 00:26:37,283 --> 00:26:42,296 And I think it was a warm-up or maybe like practice run for maybe doing more 654 00:26:42,296 --> 00:26:43,337 of this, because 655 00:26:43,539 --> 00:26:45,340 We'll talk about the demos that were during the keynote, 656 00:26:45,340 --> 00:26:46,470 which you wrote a great piece about. 657 00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:50,014 We'll put in the show notes. But to see the demo on stage, 658 00:26:50,014 --> 00:26:54,998 so that tech talk, I mean, Mike Rockwell was making requests in real time. 659 00:26:54,998 --> 00:26:57,650 We saw the iPhone on the screen and it was just doing stuff. 660 00:26:57,650 --> 00:26:59,572 Like he was he was making requests, 661 00:26:59,572 --> 00:27:01,273 asking it to do personal context stuff. 662 00:27:01,273 --> 00:27:03,615 And I think the bottom line is like they did it. 663 00:27:03,615 --> 00:27:06,118 Like they fixed the thing. The all the promises from two years 664 00:27:06,118 --> 00:27:10,051 ago about personal context, being able to ask what time I need to leave 665 00:27:10,051 --> 00:27:12,713 to pick up my mom from the airport and be able to get to my kids. 666 00:27:13,171 --> 00:27:17,834 thing in time, it all works. 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Right. 780 00:32:59,532 --> 00:33:03,890 And I so I think that by l le the temptation is when you're going through a demo. 781 00:33:03,890 --> 00:33:05,817 imagine first of all how short the demo would have been. 782 00:33:05,817 --> 00:33:08,222 You to you already told us like the whole th there was an i there 783 00:33:08,222 --> 00:33:10,461 was a time advantage. They filled some time. 784 00:33:10,461 --> 00:33:14,644 But I think what they were trying to do is establish credibility and that 785 00:33:14,804 --> 00:33:17,827 the the messiness of the process not that the process was broken, 786 00:33:17,827 --> 00:33:20,799 but just like we all know that this sort of thing takes time. 787 00:33:21,293 --> 00:33:23,104 And so if it didn't take time in the demo, 788 00:33:23,104 --> 00:33:24,944 you become you're over promising again. 789 00:33:24,944 --> 00:33:29,076 And so I just think that by giving it the time, 790 00:33:29,076 --> 00:33:32,617 letting us watch it wait, let us see it was the next best thing 791 00:33:32,617 --> 00:33:35,148 to actually doing those demos live in person. 792 00:33:35,148 --> 00:33:39,159 Right. And I actually think it was really smart the way they had the split screen, 793 00:33:39,159 --> 00:33:42,590 so that it was very clear that you were watching a person talk to you 794 00:33:42,590 --> 00:33:44,241 and then you were seeing the phone in their hand. 795 00:33:44,241 --> 00:33:45,241 And actually 796 00:33:45,197 --> 00:33:48,730 It had to have been so hard to hold the phones at that awkward angle 797 00:33:48,730 --> 00:33:51,122 so that the camera that was over their shoulder could get it. 798 00:33:51,122 --> 00:33:53,524 Like that must have been torture to do this. 799 00:33:51,294 --> 00:33:52,821 Yeah. Yes. 800 00:33:53,524 --> 00:33:56,647 But I think that that was that was the smartest thing about the entire keynote 801 00:33:56,647 --> 00:33:58,368 was if we're going to demo this, 802 00:33:57,119 --> 00:33:58,119 Yes. 803 00:33:58,368 --> 00:34:02,352 the thing they knew that was true was that they made a lot of promises 804 00:34:02,352 --> 00:34:04,714 two years ago, many of which they couldn't deliver on. 805 00:34:04,714 --> 00:34:07,507 And so they needed to not overpromise. 806 00:34:07,507 --> 00:34:11,080 And the way that you communicate that you're not overpromising is you just show your 807 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,479 work and let people watch it. 808 00:34:12,574 --> 00:34:14,805 That's that's a show your work is great. 809 00:34:14,805 --> 00:34:19,726 And during a lot of we had opportunities to like capture content on camera 810 00:34:19,846 --> 00:34:24,438 as like content creators, basically of of people at Apple doing Siri AI, 811 00:34:24,438 --> 00:34:28,666 doing c and we could film it. And just to the angle of having to hold a phone, 812 00:34:28,666 --> 00:34:32,550 I have so much so much video of someone's wrist like cocked at like 813 00:34:32,550 --> 00:34:35,111 a eighty degree angle, trying to get you know, 814 00:34:35,111 --> 00:34:38,092 no reflections, try to make sure nothing weird is in the background and also 815 00:34:38,092 --> 00:34:39,352 you can film it while they talk to it. 816 00:34:39,352 --> 00:34:40,352 It's 817 00:34:40,064 --> 00:34:44,238 Kudos to all the people who ~ were doing those briefings and like holding phones 818 00:34:43,481 --> 00:34:45,377 They're all gonna need physical therapy now. 819 00:34:44,238 --> 00:34:47,241 and like, everyone has a carpal tunnel. 820 00:34:45,377 --> 00:34:46,791 Right? 821 00:34:47,241 --> 00:34:51,926 Everyone has an RSI. ~ but one thing that was rumored and we did 822 00:34:51,926 --> 00:34:54,378 get was the dedicated Siri app. 823 00:34:54,378 --> 00:34:56,179 And I've been playing around with this. 824 00:34:56,179 --> 00:35:00,505 We we debated a little bit before all this keynote stuff about does 825 00:35:00,505 --> 00:35:02,006 it need a dedicated app or whatever. 826 00:35:02,006 --> 00:35:03,818 I am a hundred percent glad it is here. 827 00:35:04,909 --> 00:35:07,521 One, because now I can go back and show you all. 828 00:35:07,521 --> 00:35:09,570 And I know I'm t I'm talking about a lot of visuals this week. 829 00:35:09,570 --> 00:35:12,423 I apologize. Go watch in Apple Podcast, 830 00:35:12,423 --> 00:35:15,842 Spotify, or YouTube just to see some of these visuals live ~ as we do it. 831 00:35:15,842 --> 00:35:18,396 I also I'll link my YouTube videos in the show notes to watch. 832 00:35:18,396 --> 00:35:22,844 But I can go back to my very first ~ request of Siri AI, 833 00:35:22,844 --> 00:35:25,320 which was how many R's are in the word strawberry? 834 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,001 Jason Agata right, it nailed it. 835 00:35:27,001 --> 00:35:28,782 It nailed how many R's are the word strawberry. 836 00:35:28,782 --> 00:35:32,074 And I also asked it, ~ I guess this one 837 00:35:32,296 --> 00:35:34,757 Wasn't saved, but I asked it the car wash question. 838 00:35:34,757 --> 00:35:38,399 no, I pinned it up here. You can pin conversations in the Siri AI app. 839 00:35:38,399 --> 00:35:40,100 And I said, I have to wash my car. 840 00:35:40,100 --> 00:35:42,542 Should I either walk to the car wash or take my car? 841 00:35:42,542 --> 00:35:45,793 And this was a meme where a lot of other AI apps were like, 842 00:35:45,793 --> 00:35:47,514 Well, if it's a nice day, you should walk. 843 00:35:47,514 --> 00:35:48,925 And it's like the point is car wash. 844 00:35:48,925 --> 00:35:50,886 And the AIs would miss that whole point. 845 00:35:50,886 --> 00:35:54,408 To Siri AI's credit, you should definitely take your car. 846 00:35:54,408 --> 00:35:57,380 Walking to the car wash wouldn't be very helpful if your goal is 847 00:35:57,380 --> 00:36:00,842 to wash the vehicle. Siri's got a little ~ got a little sarcasm. 848 00:36:00,842 --> 00:36:01,842 I kind of like that. 849 00:36:00,931 --> 00:36:01,931 I mean, 850 00:36:01,562 --> 00:36:06,510 let's be honest. This is the most famous gaff of of the ChatGPT era. 851 00:36:05,671 --> 00:36:06,671 Yes. 852 00:36:06,510 --> 00:36:09,065 There's no way someone's job was not to be like, 853 00:36:09,065 --> 00:36:10,637 we have to get this one right. 854 00:36:09,380 --> 00:36:11,962 You you think someone like hard coded this response? 855 00:36:10,637 --> 00:36:15,305 I I bet you every single one of them has this now hard coded. 856 00:36:11,962 --> 00:36:13,598 It's just like if someone asks. 857 00:36:15,968 --> 00:36:17,929 Mmm, that's probably true. That's probably true. 858 00:36:17,929 --> 00:36:21,049 But ~ the Siri app is great. And one of the things, 859 00:36:21,049 --> 00:36:23,022 ~ I think the promise of two years ago, 860 00:36:23,022 --> 00:36:25,814 personal context. I was at the live show, 861 00:36:25,814 --> 00:36:27,775 live talk show last night. John Gruber, 862 00:36:27,775 --> 00:36:29,802 his guests were Joanna Stern and Neeli again. 863 00:36:29,802 --> 00:36:32,528 And Joanna was talking about she's been using, 864 00:36:32,528 --> 00:36:35,100 she used personal context several times, 865 00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:39,643 real world scenarios already, because she just asked her iPhone, 866 00:36:39,643 --> 00:36:41,844 what time did John tell me I needed to be there tonight? 867 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:47,761 Not very much context in the request and it still nailed her ~ the 868 00:36:47,802 --> 00:36:49,362 got the answer right. It got the answer right. 869 00:36:49,362 --> 00:36:51,733 And so I just got off the wait list yesterday, 870 00:36:51,733 --> 00:36:54,383 so I haven't had that long to test it out. 871 00:36:54,383 --> 00:36:56,304 But I did want to show a couple examples. 872 00:36:56,304 --> 00:36:59,865 One, my son texted me the other day, 873 00:36:59,865 --> 00:37:03,126 he had a job interview, and I wanted to know how it went. 874 00:37:03,126 --> 00:37:05,323 Now, for context, I have two sons, 875 00:37:05,323 --> 00:37:09,508 I have three kids, and the only thing that I asked Siri AI. 876 00:37:09,929 --> 00:37:13,531 My full request was what did my son say about his job interview? 877 00:37:13,531 --> 00:37:18,254 And after a couple seconds, personal context came through and Siri said, 878 00:37:18,254 --> 00:37:20,646 Your son, Jordan. So it actually named the son. 879 00:37:20,646 --> 00:37:22,217 I didn't specify which son it was. 880 00:37:22,217 --> 00:37:24,778 Said his interview at the New Dance Studio went well, 881 00:37:24,778 --> 00:37:26,329 and it sounds like he might have the job. 882 00:37:26,329 --> 00:37:29,622 He also mentioned that he was invited to teach a master class there after 883 00:37:29,622 --> 00:37:31,613 his July trip. Congratulations, 884 00:37:31,613 --> 00:37:32,854 Jordan, by the way, because that's awesome. 885 00:37:32,854 --> 00:37:35,385 I was really happy for him. But it pulled it it did it. 886 00:37:35,385 --> 00:37:39,538 Like it pulled it up. I asked the general question and it got it right answer. 887 00:37:39,678 --> 00:37:42,270 And then one other personal ~ request, 888 00:37:42,270 --> 00:37:46,474 I asked ~ what did Andrew when did Andrew say he was arriving at Wubdub? 889 00:37:46,474 --> 00:37:49,376 Again, I did no last name, no further context. 890 00:37:49,376 --> 00:37:50,737 I was talking about Andrew Clare. 891 00:37:50,737 --> 00:37:52,299 I got to spend a lot of time with him this week. 892 00:37:52,299 --> 00:37:53,470 He helped me film some videos, 893 00:37:53,470 --> 00:37:56,485 great YouTube channel. And he said he mentioned he was planning to arrive early 894 00:37:56,485 --> 00:38:00,085 on dubdub Friday night so he could spend Saturday exploring San Francisco. 895 00:38:00,085 --> 00:38:03,068 He also noted that he needed to be back for work on Wednesday evening. 896 00:38:03,068 --> 00:38:05,550 It like did all it's doing the things. 897 00:38:05,550 --> 00:38:07,748 And what was wild too is 898 00:38:09,052 --> 00:38:10,513 When, at least here on the betas, 899 00:38:10,513 --> 00:38:13,016 this probably won't be the case once this is public, 900 00:38:13,016 --> 00:38:15,518 but when you do a request, there's like a thumbs up, 901 00:38:15,518 --> 00:38:20,182 thumbs down, and you can give feedback on how well it did with the request and not. 902 00:38:20,182 --> 00:38:24,656 And what's interesting is if you choose to share that feedback with Apple 903 00:38:24,656 --> 00:38:30,832 in the beta, it will show you all the things it indexed for that request. 904 00:38:30,832 --> 00:38:34,856 And so I did it for that text to about my son Jordan and his job. 905 00:38:35,220 --> 00:38:36,791 And it said, here's the Siri response, 906 00:38:36,791 --> 00:38:38,943 the on-screen, here's the diagnostics, 907 00:38:38,943 --> 00:38:43,986 20 mail messages. And I redacted something because Jason, 908 00:38:43,986 --> 00:38:47,489 this thing went back far. Like I saw some email subjects and I was like, 909 00:38:47,489 --> 00:38:51,592 I that was like a decade ago. But it pulled messages, 910 00:38:51,592 --> 00:38:54,273 text messages, mail, reminders, 911 00:38:54,273 --> 00:38:57,376 notes, reading list items from Safari. 912 00:38:57,376 --> 00:39:02,639 And it's just so clear that it's doing the personal context thoroughly, 913 00:39:02,639 --> 00:39:03,639 fully. 914 00:39:03,792 --> 00:39:05,783 And one of the reasons why if you update to the beta, 915 00:39:05,783 --> 00:39:07,874 and this will be the case when everyone gets it this fall, 916 00:39:07,874 --> 00:39:10,177 it's going to take days to index. 917 00:39:10,177 --> 00:39:12,698 I mean, I've had people updated to the beta on Monday, 918 00:39:12,698 --> 00:39:14,800 and it's still indexing now on Wednesday. 919 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,724 Like it's gonna index, index. And the reason why it's taking so long, 920 00:39:19,724 --> 00:39:23,576 too, is it has to do it on every device because just like in the past, 921 00:39:23,576 --> 00:39:26,208 Apple is preserving privacy and security. 922 00:39:26,208 --> 00:39:29,701 And so it's not going to index on your iPhone. 923 00:39:30,035 --> 00:39:33,318 And then send that information index up to the cloud and then back down 924 00:39:33,318 --> 00:39:35,970 to your iPad. Your iPad has to index it, 925 00:39:35,970 --> 00:39:38,562 your Vision, your Apple Vision Pro has to index it, 926 00:39:38,562 --> 00:39:42,215 your iPhone has to index it. And that's time consuming and intensive 927 00:39:42,215 --> 00:39:46,369 for your local device, but that's that privacy and security that's built in. 928 00:39:46,369 --> 00:39:51,773 And something that agents like Claude and OpenAI can't say. 929 00:39:51,773 --> 00:39:53,745 You know, they're like your information. 930 00:39:53,745 --> 00:39:56,897 The reason why Claude on your iPhone knows just about you about Claude 931 00:39:56,897 --> 00:39:58,729 on your Mac is because all your stuff is. 932 00:39:58,993 --> 00:40:02,424 In anthropic servers. It's in that data center in Tennessee or whatever. 933 00:40:02,424 --> 00:40:05,664 Like it's just there. And but it's like it's impressive. 934 00:40:05,664 --> 00:40:06,664 Like it's doing the things. 935 00:40:06,819 --> 00:40:12,033 Yeah. And as someone who has been working on this sort of a feature in an app, 936 00:40:12,033 --> 00:40:16,756 like that the hardest part is figuring out what is the information, 937 00:40:16,756 --> 00:40:19,908 what is the scope of information that needs to get fed into this in order 938 00:40:19,908 --> 00:40:23,671 to find like what is the so what are the sources parsing through that 939 00:40:23,671 --> 00:40:25,232 in order to deliver a response. 940 00:40:25,232 --> 00:40:27,534 And the tra challenge in the past has just been as with 941 00:40:27,534 --> 00:40:29,165 the 'cause Apple intelligence will do that, 942 00:40:29,165 --> 00:40:30,866 I can tell you. Like right now, 943 00:40:30,866 --> 00:40:32,708 Apple intelligence itself is capable. 944 00:40:32,708 --> 00:40:34,639 It's just that the context window is so small. 945 00:40:35,289 --> 00:40:39,332 That it was impossible for it to shove enough information into that and 946 00:40:39,332 --> 00:40:42,816 to get to get all that. But now what they're able to do is they 947 00:40:42,816 --> 00:40:46,309 can just literally take all of your information and that with the semantic index, 948 00:40:46,309 --> 00:40:49,542 it's it only has to look at the what it can quickly triage what's 949 00:40:49,542 --> 00:40:52,535 the relevant information going back infinity, 950 00:40:51,441 --> 00:40:54,445 Right. Yeah, it did. 951 00:40:52,535 --> 00:40:55,197 right? Like it's all anything that's been indexed is just there. 952 00:40:54,445 --> 00:40:55,445 It did. Yeah. 953 00:40:55,197 --> 00:40:56,749 Yeah. And then it'll just give you that. 954 00:40:56,749 --> 00:40:59,732 And I do really like the fact that it also then gives you the source that 955 00:40:59,732 --> 00:41:01,163 it used to give you the information. 956 00:41:01,950 --> 00:41:07,241 Yes. Now, the big thing is one thing it couldn't see right now were my bear notes. 957 00:41:07,241 --> 00:41:11,452 And my five thousand plus bear notes is where I've kept a lot of 958 00:41:11,452 --> 00:41:14,263 my knowledge and thoughts for the last however many years. 959 00:41:14,263 --> 00:41:18,204 And so that's something hopefully over the summer app developers adopt quickly. 960 00:41:18,204 --> 00:41:21,335 We'll see if things, 961 00:41:21,335 --> 00:41:24,005 you know, apps like Spark, Fastmail, 962 00:41:24,005 --> 00:41:27,506 Bear, Things, all those apps I think they'll get on board. 963 00:41:27,506 --> 00:41:30,947 How quickly will Microsoft's Outlook allow its 964 00:41:31,017 --> 00:41:34,248 Content to be indexed by Apple Siri AI, 965 00:41:34,248 --> 00:41:37,550 the Gmail app, your YouTube app. 966 00:41:37,550 --> 00:41:38,910 I don't think YouTube's gonna do it. 967 00:41:38,910 --> 00:41:41,071 And one of the things Neil I said at the talk show last night, 968 00:41:41,071 --> 00:41:46,673 like there's no way Meta is going to plug in your Instagram DMs to 969 00:41:46,673 --> 00:41:51,315 be indexed by Apple. Not that it would really hurt Meta at all, 970 00:41:51,315 --> 00:41:53,376 but I think just out of spite, 971 00:41:53,376 --> 00:41:57,728 just Zuckerberg. Like he's like they don't share it. 972 00:41:55,201 --> 00:41:56,532 Well yeah, they don't want to share that. 973 00:41:56,532 --> 00:41:59,125 They want you looking at your DMs in Instagram. 974 00:41:57,728 --> 00:42:00,499 It right. 975 00:41:59,125 --> 00:42:00,666 But yeah, I can tell you right now, 976 00:42:01,067 --> 00:42:03,529 I will be connecting contextlate to this immediately. 977 00:42:04,613 --> 00:42:07,554 I and I will not be connecting Coffee Finder to Siri AI, 978 00:42:07,554 --> 00:42:10,225 but contextually you should you should check that out. 979 00:42:08,153 --> 00:42:09,153 Totally fine. 980 00:42:10,225 --> 00:42:12,365 just a preference question for you, 981 00:42:12,365 --> 00:42:15,926 I'm curious. Now that Siri AI is a thing, 982 00:42:15,926 --> 00:42:19,567 which I think is just wild that there's like AI in the name of an Apple product, 983 00:42:19,567 --> 00:42:23,528 but the Spotlight on Mac, 984 00:42:23,528 --> 00:42:25,919 on iPhone, on all the devices, 985 00:42:25,919 --> 00:42:28,670 it's now Spotlight and Siri. There's no separation. 986 00:42:28,670 --> 00:42:31,951 So when you do command space on your Mac, 987 00:42:31,951 --> 00:42:32,991 it is both. 988 00:42:33,531 --> 00:42:35,272 And as you start typing a request, 989 00:42:35,272 --> 00:42:40,051 if it's a longer request, it's basically just gonna kick you over to Siri AI. 990 00:42:40,051 --> 00:42:41,835 If it's short, like launching an app, 991 00:42:41,835 --> 00:42:43,316 it should do that pretty intuitively. 992 00:42:43,316 --> 00:42:46,168 And on the Mac, you can still do like command space four, 993 00:42:46,168 --> 00:42:47,439 it gets your clipboard manager. 994 00:42:47,439 --> 00:42:49,720 It's just this newer kind of interface. 995 00:42:49,720 --> 00:42:53,152 From the last couple of days I've been using it on my Mac and my other devices. 996 00:42:53,152 --> 00:42:56,083 It's okay. I'm not sure if I prefer it. 997 00:42:56,083 --> 00:43:00,476 Like sometimes I almost wish like just give me spotlight because I'm like trying 998 00:43:00,476 --> 00:43:02,877 to launch an app or I'm looking for a file and folder. 999 00:43:03,348 --> 00:43:04,439 And there are ways to do that, 1000 00:43:04,439 --> 00:43:08,584 like in Spotlight. You can, or in Siri AI now in macOS 27, 1001 00:43:08,584 --> 00:43:09,895 like I could do command space, 1002 00:43:09,895 --> 00:43:12,978 type in P-I-XL, and hit tab, 1003 00:43:12,978 --> 00:43:16,262 and that will start searching for pixel mater documents, 1004 00:43:16,262 --> 00:43:18,364 and it should like bypass the Siri AI. 1005 00:43:18,364 --> 00:43:22,298 So maybe it's gonna be great, but I'm not sure how I feel about all of that being 1006 00:43:22,298 --> 00:43:24,571 in one. Have you had any time to kind of play around with that? 1007 00:43:25,699 --> 00:43:28,251 No, I mean, yeah, I don't know. 1008 00:43:28,251 --> 00:43:32,594 It's like I think it is the kind of thing where we're gonna have to spend some time 1009 00:43:32,714 --> 00:43:35,716 figuring it out and I'm gonna for now trust that the people who made it spent 1010 00:43:35,716 --> 00:43:36,967 a lot of time trying to figure it out. 1011 00:43:36,413 --> 00:43:37,551 Yeah. Well sure. 1012 00:43:36,967 --> 00:43:41,950 And I think that this is a very new ~ a very n like a new paradigm for 1013 00:43:41,950 --> 00:43:45,342 us because in the past, I mean most of us had just gotten used to the fact that Siri 1014 00:43:45,342 --> 00:43:47,504 was the thing we used to set timers and reminders. 1015 00:43:47,504 --> 00:43:48,965 Like that was it, right? 1016 00:43:49,289 --> 00:43:50,376 That's true. That's true. 1017 00:43:49,365 --> 00:43:50,447 And now it's sort of 1018 00:43:50,447 --> 00:43:53,403 the gateway to something much more powerful and it's gonna take some time 1019 00:43:53,403 --> 00:43:55,327 to figure out how are we going to shift the way we use it. 1020 00:43:55,327 --> 00:43:58,253 Because I don't think people are gonna just stop using Claude either. 1021 00:43:58,253 --> 00:44:01,109 That's the other thing. Like I'm not deleting the Claude app off my phone. 1022 00:43:59,855 --> 00:44:00,855 No. 1023 00:44:01,897 --> 00:44:04,899 Well, and another point is Siri AI on the Mac, 1024 00:44:04,899 --> 00:44:09,693 there were demos in the keynote and several ~ that we got in briefings that were 1025 00:44:09,693 --> 00:44:14,387 really impressive. Siri AI on the Mac can do some wild things like give 1026 00:44:14,387 --> 00:44:18,961 it three PDFs of whatever and ask it to like give me a comparison table 1027 00:44:18,961 --> 00:44:20,602 on these three products, let's say, 1028 00:44:20,602 --> 00:44:22,673 or give me a summary of what all these things are about. 1029 00:44:22,673 --> 00:44:24,715 I was experimenting with that last night, 1030 00:44:24,715 --> 00:44:29,329 and one, I actually had to drag a PDF into the Siri AI Mac app. 1031 00:44:29,693 --> 00:44:32,826 I couldn't just tell it, get this PDF in Finder. 1032 00:44:32,826 --> 00:44:35,468 Maybe that's something that gets updated over time. 1033 00:44:35,468 --> 00:44:39,111 But to your point, of like, I'm still going to use the Claude app, 1034 00:44:39,111 --> 00:44:45,517 one of the use cases that everybody shows off in all the Claude and OpenAI tasks, 1035 00:44:45,517 --> 00:44:47,759 like co-work, is renaming files. 1036 00:44:47,759 --> 00:44:50,381 And so as a can Siri AI do that. 1037 00:44:50,381 --> 00:44:55,025 And so I I one of the things you can do in macOS 27 is select files, 1038 00:44:55,025 --> 00:44:57,167 and when you right-click or two-finger click, 1039 00:44:57,673 --> 00:44:59,744 There's the Ask Siri option right at the top. 1040 00:44:59,744 --> 00:45:03,138 So you can ask Siri about the files that you have selected, 1041 00:45:03,138 --> 00:45:05,750 which is cool. So I said, rename these files. 1042 00:45:05,750 --> 00:45:07,952 And they said, What would you like to rename these files to? 1043 00:45:07,952 --> 00:45:09,724 This is my Siri conversation. I say, 1044 00:45:09,724 --> 00:45:12,396 rename based on the contents of the image or file. 1045 00:45:12,396 --> 00:45:16,219 And sure enough, it took the four screenshot files that I had selected 1046 00:45:16,620 --> 00:45:18,902 and suggested names based on the content. 1047 00:45:18,902 --> 00:45:20,763 So it has like startup disk settings, 1048 00:45:19,354 --> 00:45:20,354 Yeah. 1049 00:45:20,763 --> 00:45:24,306 shortcuts University, Apple, like so it came up with names based on the content. 1050 00:45:24,306 --> 00:45:25,306 So we could do that. 1051 00:45:25,437 --> 00:45:27,228 It said, would you like me to apply these names? 1052 00:45:27,228 --> 00:45:29,089 I said yes. And I said, sorry, 1053 00:45:29,089 --> 00:45:31,271 I can't do that. And I was like, 1054 00:45:31,271 --> 00:45:34,733 So Siri, you did it. Like you already have the names. 1055 00:45:34,733 --> 00:45:38,356 So it it it does not seem like right now, 1056 00:45:38,356 --> 00:45:42,428 we'll have to see over the summer that the Siri AI on the Mac is not going 1057 00:45:42,428 --> 00:45:46,761 to be like Claude Cowork. It is going to be like Claude Cowork light, 1058 00:45:46,761 --> 00:45:50,724 like L I T E, and like do some things maybe, 1059 00:45:50,724 --> 00:45:55,067 but not gonna be able to take the amount of agentic action on your Mac that 1060 00:45:55,443 --> 00:45:58,575 People might be used to. ~ all right, 1061 00:45:58,575 --> 00:46:00,186 side note, because I want to get to parental controls. 1062 00:46:00,186 --> 00:46:04,608 None of these stuff, the Siri AI is not coming to the EU because of the 1063 00:46:04,608 --> 00:46:06,589 DMA and is not coming to China. 1064 00:46:06,589 --> 00:46:08,710 And Craig even said in the keynote, 1065 00:46:08,710 --> 00:46:12,812 like, we're working. And one of the things Neilai said at the talk show last night 1066 00:46:13,173 --> 00:46:15,914 is apparently Apple went to the EU and was like, 1067 00:46:15,914 --> 00:46:18,055 listen, we will build this thing. 1068 00:46:18,055 --> 00:46:19,996 They're like, we don't typically talk about things we're going to build, 1069 00:46:19,996 --> 00:46:22,517 but we will spend eight, it's gonna take us 18 months. 1070 00:46:22,517 --> 00:46:25,119 We will spend 18 months building this intermediary. 1071 00:46:25,363 --> 00:46:31,597 for agents on the Apple devices where third parties can interact with personal 1072 00:46:31,597 --> 00:46:36,391 context in a safe way, only giving the information that ~ is necessary. 1073 00:46:36,391 --> 00:46:40,153 Like we will build this if you will approve it so these features can launch 1074 00:46:40,153 --> 00:46:43,005 in the EU. We just want to know that you'll approve it because we don't want 1075 00:46:43,005 --> 00:46:45,197 to spend 18 months building it and then you deny it. 1076 00:46:45,197 --> 00:46:46,638 And apparently the EU was like, 1077 00:46:46,638 --> 00:46:49,850 mmm, I don't know. And so I was like, 1078 00:46:49,850 --> 00:46:53,763 well, okay. So who knows? Who knows if it will come to the EU 1079 00:46:54,161 --> 00:46:58,344 Or to China if or Wednesday. And it's only it's English only this fall right now. 1080 00:46:58,344 --> 00:47:00,215 So we'll see. We'll see how that goes. 1081 00:47:00,215 --> 00:47:02,897 All right. Parental controls, Jason. 1082 00:47:02,897 --> 00:47:05,899 You and I use everything in screen time, 1083 00:47:05,899 --> 00:47:07,220 all the parental control settings. 1084 00:47:07,220 --> 00:47:12,113 One of the things that was clear yesterday in a briefing was like a couple 1085 00:47:12,113 --> 00:47:14,654 of years ago, there was like a brand new home architecture where you have 1086 00:47:14,654 --> 00:47:17,696 to like update all your home devices and then like go to the home 1087 00:47:17,696 --> 00:47:21,449 arc new home architecture. That's actually how these new screen time settings work. 1088 00:47:21,449 --> 00:47:23,100 Come iOS 27. 1089 00:47:23,656 --> 00:47:28,428 You'll have to up make sure all your kids devices are updated to iOS 27 and yours, 1090 00:47:28,428 --> 00:47:33,050 and then there'll be an option to upgrade to the new screen time architecture. 1091 00:47:33,050 --> 00:47:37,332 So this is not just you know design changes and feature additions. 1092 00:47:37,332 --> 00:47:40,133 This is a reworking of everything behind the scenes. 1093 00:47:40,133 --> 00:47:44,735 And that is why one of the promises is this is going to be more reliable. 1094 00:47:44,735 --> 00:47:46,836 You know, screen time requests shouldn't just break, 1095 00:47:46,836 --> 00:47:49,817 like being able to just access websites or whatever. 1096 00:47:49,817 --> 00:47:51,798 So that's interesting. 1097 00:47:52,218 --> 00:47:53,899 And not something we'll be able to test over the summer. 1098 00:47:53,899 --> 00:47:56,160 Like I'm not gonna put all my kids' devices on iOS twenty seven, 1099 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,723 so we'll see. But aside from that, 1100 00:47:59,723 --> 00:48:02,545 there was a lot of rebranding of current features. 1101 00:48:02,545 --> 00:48:06,548 And there were a lot of times where I was hearing like kids will be able to ask to, 1102 00:48:06,548 --> 00:48:09,754 you know, ~ con you know, a new contact be added to their thing. 1103 00:48:09,754 --> 00:48:11,411 I'm like, I'm pretty sure that's a feature now. 1104 00:48:11,411 --> 00:48:13,353 Like a lot of these new features. 1105 00:48:12,601 --> 00:48:13,664 Yeah, a hundred percent. 1106 00:48:13,353 --> 00:48:19,927 And yeah, and it seems like Apple is relaunching this because it's been dormant 1107 00:48:19,927 --> 00:48:20,927 for so long. Like 1108 00:48:21,020 --> 00:48:24,933 One of my ongoing jokes is my first three YouTube videos were about screen time. 1109 00:48:24,933 --> 00:48:27,515 It's six years ago that I published those videos, 1110 00:48:27,515 --> 00:48:30,917 and I haven't had to update them since because everything has been exactly the same. 1111 00:48:30,917 --> 00:48:32,738 Like every screen time setting, 1112 00:48:32,421 --> 00:48:33,421 Yeah. 1113 00:48:32,738 --> 00:48:36,021 every menu has not changed since I made those videos six years ago. 1114 00:48:36,021 --> 00:48:39,323 Now I will, now I will update it because it is going to be very different. 1115 00:48:39,323 --> 00:48:41,765 But it is a lot of rebranding of features, 1116 00:48:41,765 --> 00:48:45,267 but then also some new things like time allowances, 1117 00:48:45,267 --> 00:48:48,840 in addition to downtime, which are welcome additions. 1118 00:48:49,512 --> 00:48:51,655 But JSON requests are still in messages and that kind of stinks. 1119 00:48:52,324 --> 00:48:53,755 Yeah, that's the worst thing. Like, 1120 00:48:53,755 --> 00:48:56,186 I don't that's the one thing everyone wants to do. 1121 00:48:54,194 --> 00:48:55,194 That is the sort of thing. 1122 00:48:56,186 --> 00:49:01,839 Like, I don't want the text history with my child to just be full of these requests. 1123 00:48:59,558 --> 00:49:02,689 No, no. That's all it is. 1124 00:49:01,839 --> 00:49:04,840 And it's like that doesn't make any sense. 1125 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,302 I understand that from a software engineer who doesn't deal with this every day, 1126 00:49:08,302 --> 00:49:14,035 it makes sense. But it does not make any sense that like if I open up the text, 1127 00:49:12,018 --> 00:49:13,018 Don't do it. 1128 00:49:14,035 --> 00:49:17,067 like it's and especially because like there are many times where our d like 1129 00:49:17,067 --> 00:49:21,031 our for example, our oldest, she'll send us a message that she's made it somewhere. 1130 00:49:21,345 --> 00:49:24,566 Or the or other daughter. Like and she'll send it to both my wife and I. 1131 00:49:24,566 --> 00:49:30,209 And then also, there's a bunch of just can I have this contact in my thing? 1132 00:49:30,209 --> 00:49:32,249 Or can I have more time for this? 1133 00:49:32,249 --> 00:49:34,090 Or can I do this? Or can I download this app? 1134 00:49:34,090 --> 00:49:38,412 It's like I I don't want any of that in the conversations that I'm having with 1135 00:49:38,412 --> 00:49:41,833 my kid. I want those in a dedicated place where I go when I want to deal with 1136 00:49:41,833 --> 00:49:46,495 the screen time stuff. So I I feel like that is such an easy thing 1137 00:49:46,495 --> 00:49:50,537 to conceptually fix and I don't quite understand. 1138 00:49:51,629 --> 00:49:54,550 It it does it is an example of one of those things where it really does feel like 1139 00:49:54,550 --> 00:49:58,792 the people who made this are not you having to use it every day because 1140 00:49:58,792 --> 00:50:01,364 it does feel very like, Yeah, this makes sense to an engineer. 1141 00:50:01,364 --> 00:50:03,955 Wouldn't it be super convenient if you just got a text message and we just 1142 00:50:03,955 --> 00:50:04,955 put it right there? And I'm like, 1143 00:50:04,875 --> 00:50:06,876 Yeah, but then when you go back to those messages, 1144 00:50:06,876 --> 00:50:08,046 it's just a bunch of garbage. 1145 00:50:08,530 --> 00:50:11,933 Well and still feel like there's so much in the screen time settings. 1146 00:50:11,933 --> 00:50:15,417 We didn't get it. Like we got a Siri AI app before Screentime app 1147 00:50:15,717 --> 00:50:21,543 and before GTA six. But a screen a dedicated screen time app I feel like would solve 1148 00:50:21,543 --> 00:50:23,945 a lot of the issues. Like let notifications come through there, 1149 00:50:23,945 --> 00:50:26,657 put all the options in there. But we didn't get that. 1150 00:50:26,657 --> 00:50:28,579 We got a website that talks about the features. 1151 00:50:28,579 --> 00:50:29,579 So there's that. 1152 00:50:28,695 --> 00:50:29,695 Yeah, but also 1153 00:50:29,476 --> 00:50:33,750 Steven, here's the thing. When your kid uses their when the screen time password 1154 00:50:33,750 --> 00:50:36,712 is entered on a device, you get a notification. 1155 00:50:36,712 --> 00:50:41,777 You don't get a text message. So why in the world when they want to do something, 1156 00:50:37,916 --> 00:50:39,839 That is tr ~ that is true. 1157 00:50:41,777 --> 00:50:43,379 is it not just a notification? 1158 00:50:42,170 --> 00:50:45,093 Yes. Right. 1159 00:50:43,379 --> 00:50:45,441 But like it doesn't I don't understand. 1160 00:50:45,854 --> 00:50:49,157 I bet you is because how it used to be is those notifications lived 1161 00:50:49,157 --> 00:50:53,662 in like settings screen time or whatever and years passed, 1162 00:50:53,662 --> 00:50:54,856 parents probably didn't know where those were. 1163 00:50:54,856 --> 00:50:57,826 Like if you didn't do it from the notifications like well where do I go to get it? 1164 00:50:57,676 --> 00:50:58,676 More 1165 00:50:57,926 --> 00:51:00,029 importantly, people don't have notifications on for settings, 1166 00:51:00,029 --> 00:51:03,533 but you everyone has notifications on for messages until you get them. 1167 00:51:03,533 --> 00:51:07,138 But it but I just feel like it there's gotta be a better solution, 1168 00:51:07,138 --> 00:51:09,131 Steven. And and he let me ask you this. 1169 00:51:07,857 --> 00:51:08,857 And 1170 00:51:09,131 --> 00:51:11,684 What was your sense from the not from Apple people, 1171 00:51:11,684 --> 00:51:13,626 but from everyone else? Because I have theory about this. 1172 00:51:13,626 --> 00:51:16,490 Why did they spend so much time talking about screen time? 1173 00:51:19,390 --> 00:51:24,092 So this was something Neelai also talked about yesterday was regulatory pressure. 1174 00:51:24,092 --> 00:51:28,924 Like age verification laws are being passed right now in certain states, 1175 00:51:28,924 --> 00:51:30,875 like Texas requires age verification. 1176 00:51:30,875 --> 00:51:35,186 And so it seems like maybe Apple is trying to get ahead of some 1177 00:51:35,186 --> 00:51:38,798 of that regulatory pressure and putting these tools and maybe, 1178 00:51:38,798 --> 00:51:41,509 you know, circumvent some of these age verification things, 1179 00:51:41,509 --> 00:51:45,721 like not make every app send you the driver's license to verify the age. 1180 00:51:45,721 --> 00:51:49,022 Maybe it's that. And I do think 1181 00:51:50,128 --> 00:51:52,969 It is a need. I think more and more parents, 1182 00:51:52,969 --> 00:51:56,721 like I've seen a lot of parents will ask me of my kids, 1183 00:51:56,721 --> 00:52:00,000 friends, like, how do I manage this? 1184 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,984 Like how like I've literally walked people through adding screen time 1185 00:52:02,984 --> 00:52:05,586 and even just creating a child account. 1186 00:52:05,586 --> 00:52:09,778 Like that is one of the big new new things in this redesign screen time 1187 00:52:09,778 --> 00:52:13,520 is the onboarding process for a child and creating a child account like that 1188 00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:14,520 was confusing before. 1189 00:52:14,766 --> 00:52:17,028 And if you didn't start as a child account, 1190 00:52:14,788 --> 00:52:15,788 Right. 1191 00:52:17,028 --> 00:52:19,206 it was very difficult to like make an iCloud account. 1192 00:52:19,206 --> 00:52:20,206 I don't even think was possible. 1193 00:52:20,071 --> 00:52:23,114 Like if you created an iCloud account for your kid before, 1194 00:52:23,114 --> 00:52:24,890 you were up a creek. Like you couldn't, 1195 00:52:24,890 --> 00:52:27,067 you would have to create another one for it to be a child account. 1196 00:52:27,067 --> 00:52:28,419 Well, now you can convert those. 1197 00:52:28,419 --> 00:52:31,441 And so I do think maybe it's just hearing from a lot of that. 1198 00:52:31,441 --> 00:52:32,963 And I mean it's huge in the news. 1199 00:52:32,963 --> 00:52:35,705 I mean, if you open the news app and look at like psychology stuff, 1200 00:52:35,705 --> 00:52:39,018 80% of them are like kids and AI, 1201 00:52:39,018 --> 00:52:40,730 kids and social media. 1202 00:52:41,156 --> 00:52:42,769 And there's just a lot of that in the air. 1203 00:52:42,769 --> 00:52:44,493 So maybe maybe it's that. But do you have a theory? 1204 00:52:44,493 --> 00:52:45,493 Like do you think why? 1205 00:52:44,867 --> 00:52:45,867 Yeah, 1206 00:52:45,187 --> 00:52:48,879 I think it's pretty obvious. They just told everyone they baked AI into everything. 1207 00:52:48,879 --> 00:52:52,510 And in order for parents to have any confidence handing this thing to their kids, 1208 00:52:52,510 --> 00:52:55,621 they need to be able to know that they can control how things are being used. 1209 00:52:53,062 --> 00:52:54,062 Mm. 1210 00:52:55,621 --> 00:52:57,562 And and and I got a little bit of pushback, 1211 00:52:57,562 --> 00:52:59,790 like, well, I don't they didn't really tie that to the AI stuff. 1212 00:52:59,790 --> 00:53:01,264 I'm like, no, you don't need to. 1213 00:53:01,264 --> 00:53:02,584 But they talked about it first. 1214 00:53:02,584 --> 00:53:06,096 They basically said, This is the safest device you can give your kid, 1215 00:53:03,858 --> 00:53:04,858 That is true. 1216 00:53:06,096 --> 00:53:08,887 because look, we will give you control over these things. 1217 00:53:08,887 --> 00:53:12,638 I it is yes to see how I mean they've been saying that for a while, 1218 00:53:09,406 --> 00:53:10,406 Mm-hmm. 1219 00:53:12,638 --> 00:53:14,249 so we'll see if it's more effective. 1220 00:53:15,070 --> 00:53:18,052 We're gonna give and we're even gonna give you guidelines about how some 1221 00:53:18,052 --> 00:53:19,363 of these things should be used. 1222 00:53:19,363 --> 00:53:21,935 And then the next thing they talked about is and by the way, 1223 00:53:21,935 --> 00:53:23,316 look, there's image generation. 1224 00:53:23,316 --> 00:53:25,317 Look, there's there's all these different things. 1225 00:53:25,317 --> 00:53:27,659 There's and there's photorealistic image generation. 1226 00:53:26,083 --> 00:53:28,500 Right. Yes. 1227 00:53:27,659 --> 00:53:30,571 Like I took a picture of my wife and two different pictures, 1228 00:53:30,571 --> 00:53:31,602 one of myself, one of my wife. 1229 00:53:31,602 --> 00:53:35,744 And I like, make a photo of these two people sitting at a cafe in France 1230 00:53:35,744 --> 00:53:37,265 on their first date, and it just did it. 1231 00:53:37,265 --> 00:53:39,977 Like she didn't have any can say in that. 1232 00:53:38,767 --> 00:53:40,772 It does do it. Yeah. 1233 00:53:39,977 --> 00:53:41,018 I mean, my wife's fine with it, 1234 00:53:41,018 --> 00:53:42,209 like, I'm pretty sure it's fine. 1235 00:53:42,585 --> 00:53:44,936 But like she didn't get to like opt into that, 1236 00:53:44,936 --> 00:53:48,868 right? And so I think that in order for once parents start to understand that 1237 00:53:45,361 --> 00:53:46,361 Right. 1238 00:53:48,868 --> 00:53:50,299 you can have these kind of conversations, 1239 00:53:50,299 --> 00:53:55,301 you can do this, in in even though I think Apple's implementation 1240 00:53:55,301 --> 00:53:58,872 as is as responsible as any of the tech companies at this point, 1241 00:53:58,872 --> 00:54:03,194 as far as we can tell, that doesn't matter because what people just hear 1242 00:54:03,815 --> 00:54:08,417 are the endless number of stories of how 1243 00:54:09,005 --> 00:54:10,909 What these AI tools are capable of. 1244 00:54:10,909 --> 00:54:13,804 And I feel like if you're gonna hand your kid a phone that can do all that, 1245 00:54:13,804 --> 00:54:15,177 you wanna know that you're gonna have some control. 1246 00:54:16,379 --> 00:54:18,630 Yeah, that's fair enough. Last thing I'll mention. 1247 00:54:17,701 --> 00:54:19,454 'Cause he called the section trust and safety. 1248 00:54:18,630 --> 00:54:21,010 Right. It was trust and safety. 1249 00:54:19,454 --> 00:54:20,454 So yeah. 1250 00:54:21,010 --> 00:54:23,111 It wasn't like c child safety. 1251 00:54:23,111 --> 00:54:25,051 It was trust and safety, which was interesting. 1252 00:54:23,715 --> 00:54:26,553 No, it was that and but the big section in there was parental controls. 1253 00:54:25,051 --> 00:54:29,142 Yeah. Right. And one feature though, 1254 00:54:29,142 --> 00:54:33,034 I'll th shout out though, you'll be able to temporarily open everything 1255 00:54:33,034 --> 00:54:36,284 for your kids, like if you're on a road trip or you're traveling and 1256 00:54:36,284 --> 00:54:39,445 you just want to let them have unlimited like screen time rather than having 1257 00:54:39,445 --> 00:54:43,096 to mess with downtime or deal with like approvals during the entire road trip. 1258 00:54:43,096 --> 00:54:45,457 I'm speaking from experience because I've had to deal with this many times. 1259 00:54:44,599 --> 00:54:45,859 Yeah, it's the worst. 1260 00:54:45,901 --> 00:54:46,901 Yes. 1261 00:54:46,057 --> 00:54:47,057 It's the worst. 1262 00:54:46,938 --> 00:54:48,758 You'll be able to just tap a thing and say, 1263 00:54:48,758 --> 00:54:52,600 unlimited access for today. And that's a very welcome feature. 1264 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,361 One of the questions I have, I hope to get answered, 1265 00:54:54,361 --> 00:54:56,692 is when a child asks for more screen time. 1266 00:54:56,692 --> 00:54:58,163 Right now the options are 15 minutes, 1267 00:54:58,163 --> 00:55:01,714 an hour, or all day. I'm hoping there's additional options there, 1268 00:55:01,714 --> 00:55:03,265 but I'm not sure. So we'll have to follow up. 1269 00:55:02,854 --> 00:55:03,854 Well here's 1270 00:55:03,254 --> 00:55:04,404 the I don't know, I haven't looked, 1271 00:55:04,404 --> 00:55:05,815 but here's the optimistic take. 1272 00:55:05,815 --> 00:55:11,556 Didn't they just make some adjustments to the to the reminder snooze ~ capability? 1273 00:55:11,556 --> 00:55:14,147 I think so. Wasn't Marco talking about that? 1274 00:55:12,138 --> 00:55:14,547 did they? I don't know. ~ yeah, 1275 00:55:14,147 --> 00:55:19,489 I don't know. So yeah. So maybe we'll get some better options. 1276 00:55:14,547 --> 00:55:16,533 yeah, yeah. they they in Iowa's twenty six dot five, 1277 00:55:16,533 --> 00:55:17,617 yes, there were some adjustments, 1278 00:55:17,617 --> 00:55:18,617 yeah. 1279 00:55:19,489 --> 00:55:22,469 I wanted to just be like how long do you want to extend this for? 1280 00:55:22,469 --> 00:55:25,340 Just custom amount, twenty five minutes, 1281 00:55:23,057 --> 00:55:27,219 That would be nice. Yes. Yes. 1282 00:55:25,340 --> 00:55:27,801 seven minutes, ninety minutes, 1283 00:55:27,219 --> 00:55:28,549 Three 1284 00:55:27,801 --> 00:55:28,801 whatever. 1285 00:55:28,549 --> 00:55:30,370 hours and seven minutes, exactly. 1286 00:55:29,761 --> 00:55:32,919 Until we get to Alaska. Just I don't want to be bothered again. 1287 00:55:30,370 --> 00:55:33,641 Okay. 1288 00:55:33,641 --> 00:55:36,152 All right. Quick lightning round. 1289 00:55:36,152 --> 00:55:37,473 We talk about Vision OS features, 1290 00:55:37,473 --> 00:55:39,164 panoramic environments is awesome. 1291 00:55:39,164 --> 00:55:41,084 Preview notifications just by looking at them. 1292 00:55:41,084 --> 00:55:44,906 ~ Apple TV, notably Apple TV and HomePod, 1293 00:55:44,906 --> 00:55:50,679 nothing. Silence. Even on the page on Apple's website where you can like click 1294 00:55:50,679 --> 00:55:51,679 the different OSs. 1295 00:55:52,093 --> 00:55:53,504 TV OS is not even highlighted. 1296 00:55:53,504 --> 00:55:55,735 Like it doesn't even have a page to see like what's new. 1297 00:55:55,735 --> 00:56:01,177 But Apple TV is getting a new Apple Podcast app that will have video. 1298 00:56:01,177 --> 00:56:03,058 And I did a little short on this. 1299 00:56:03,058 --> 00:56:07,260 The podcast app in iowa 27. Chapters are coming back for video shows 1300 00:56:07,421 --> 00:56:09,561 and follow-along transcripts and time links. 1301 00:56:09,561 --> 00:56:14,274 A small golf clap, thank you. I just no, 1302 00:56:12,215 --> 00:56:14,098 I would clap louder but my microphone's right here, 1303 00:56:14,098 --> 00:56:15,098 so 1304 00:56:14,274 --> 00:56:16,115 your microphone's there. I'm imagining everyone in the room is clapping, 1305 00:56:16,115 --> 00:56:17,115 but anyway. 1306 00:56:16,953 --> 00:56:17,953 So 1307 00:56:17,473 --> 00:56:19,354 that's coming back. That is a very welcome feature. 1308 00:56:19,354 --> 00:56:22,095 And macOS podcast app will have video as well. 1309 00:56:22,095 --> 00:56:23,856 But other things we did not get, 1310 00:56:23,856 --> 00:56:26,717 and I did ask about this, HomePod, 1311 00:56:26,717 --> 00:56:29,828 it's not gonna have Siri AI. So you're not gonna be able to do any 1312 00:56:29,828 --> 00:56:32,459 of the requests of Siri AI, even like real-world requests. 1313 00:56:32,459 --> 00:56:34,140 You'll not be able to do that with a home pod, 1314 00:56:34,140 --> 00:56:36,181 unfortunate. again, no home pod with the screen, 1315 00:56:36,181 --> 00:56:40,102 no hardware this year, like zero hardware announcements at at the keynote. 1316 00:56:40,102 --> 00:56:43,174 And also ~ no claud integration. 1317 00:56:43,174 --> 00:56:44,264 You know, one of the rumors was like, 1318 00:56:44,264 --> 00:56:46,325 you know, ChatGPT is still in there in the settings. 1319 00:56:46,737 --> 00:56:47,757 And the settings are now weird. 1320 00:56:47,757 --> 00:56:50,499 Like Apple intelligence used to be a settings wh pane, 1321 00:56:50,499 --> 00:56:53,771 and now it's just Siri. And inside the Siri pane, 1322 00:56:53,771 --> 00:56:57,183 like way at the bottom, it's like shadowed off. 1323 00:56:57,183 --> 00:56:59,854 The text is kind of blurry. It says log in with ChatGPT. 1324 00:56:59,854 --> 00:57:01,557 Like it's like, I'm just kidding, 1325 00:57:00,803 --> 00:57:01,803 Yeah. 1326 00:57:01,557 --> 00:57:02,557 it's not really all like that. 1327 00:57:02,426 --> 00:57:04,467 But it's very much like pushed to the side. 1328 00:57:04,467 --> 00:57:08,419 And it's clear, I think Apple is not wanting to push on that like third-party 1329 00:57:08,419 --> 00:57:10,860 integration thing. And so Anthropic's not an option. 1330 00:57:10,860 --> 00:57:12,211 And the ChatGPT thing is like, 1331 00:57:12,211 --> 00:57:14,382 I guess if you want to do that, 1332 00:57:14,382 --> 00:57:15,713 but it's not, it's not pushed at all. 1333 00:57:16,856 --> 00:57:20,247 There was can I say one thing that I thought was I thought was very cool? 1334 00:57:18,845 --> 00:57:22,168 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 1335 00:57:20,247 --> 00:57:22,368 Cause I Steven, I'm on the record. 1336 00:57:22,368 --> 00:57:23,798 I've said this many, many, many, 1337 00:57:23,798 --> 00:57:28,190 many, many, many, many times. That the single best device for AI is what? 1338 00:57:25,362 --> 00:57:26,362 Yes. 1339 00:57:28,190 --> 00:57:34,132 Yes, and what can you now do? Well and the a and you 1340 00:57:28,891 --> 00:57:33,034 The Apple Watch. That's it. Serie AI on the watch. 1341 00:57:33,034 --> 00:57:34,034 That's it. 1342 00:57:34,132 --> 00:57:36,853 can also build apps that have access to private cloud compute. 1343 00:57:38,073 --> 00:57:39,647 I missed that and that is amazing. 1344 00:57:39,245 --> 00:57:40,958 I'm pr I'm almost positive that that's 1345 00:57:39,647 --> 00:57:40,727 That is amazing. 1346 00:57:40,958 --> 00:57:44,493 true. I'm gonna s there was a like a screenshot where they saw where did I see it? 1347 00:57:44,493 --> 00:57:45,976 Hold on. You keep talking, I'll find it. 1348 00:57:45,949 --> 00:57:46,949 All right. 1349 00:57:45,976 --> 00:57:49,121 But yes, you can do that. You can send requests from your watch now 1350 00:57:49,121 --> 00:57:52,166 and I believe that they will go they can take advantage private clock compute 1351 00:57:52,206 --> 00:57:54,019 because the watch can't load all those models. 1352 00:57:52,657 --> 00:57:53,657 That's amazing. 1353 00:57:54,698 --> 00:57:56,909 That's amazing. All right. We only have a few minutes. 1354 00:57:56,909 --> 00:57:59,821 I want to record a quick bonus episode about my John Turner selfie, 1355 00:57:59,821 --> 00:58:05,464 but personal tech. I first finally got to use my Ubiquity travel router 1356 00:58:06,045 --> 00:58:09,307 in the hotel room. And I just have to say it is amazing. 1357 00:58:09,307 --> 00:58:12,548 ~ I plugged it in. It's my home network. 1358 00:58:12,548 --> 00:58:14,780 So plugging it into the Ethernet in the hotel room, 1359 00:58:14,780 --> 00:58:17,391 all my Apple devices are just immediately connected to the Wi-Fi. 1360 00:58:17,391 --> 00:58:20,483 Have not dealt or seen a cap. 1361 00:58:20,593 --> 00:58:22,774 Just you know, a captive window for the hotel. 1362 00:58:22,774 --> 00:58:25,075 Like put your room number in. I have not had to deal with that all week. 1363 00:58:25,075 --> 00:58:27,647 The speed is great. Yes, it's only Wi-Fi 5, 1364 00:58:27,647 --> 00:58:31,599 but it's still great. And the unified teleport feature is like a built-in VPN. 1365 00:58:31,599 --> 00:58:33,820 So I can turn that on on the router, 1366 00:58:33,820 --> 00:58:37,062 and then all my devices will appear as though they're on my home network. 1367 00:58:37,062 --> 00:58:38,763 I can access my network attached storage, 1368 00:58:38,763 --> 00:58:41,254 screen sharing, like it is amazing. 1369 00:58:41,254 --> 00:58:44,286 And the speeds are great. Like I'm getting a hundred the hotel connection 1370 00:58:44,286 --> 00:58:45,767 is a hundred megabits up and down, 1371 00:58:45,767 --> 00:58:48,638 which you know it's a little slower than my home seven gig internet, 1372 00:58:48,375 --> 00:58:49,375 Ha ha. 1373 00:58:48,638 --> 00:58:49,929 but you know, what what can you do? 1374 00:58:50,639 --> 00:58:53,210 but I'm getting like 90 something on the Wi-Fi. 1375 00:58:53,210 --> 00:58:54,790 I've been able to upload YouTube videos. 1376 00:58:54,790 --> 00:58:57,771 It's been great. I cannot say enough good things about it. 1377 00:58:57,771 --> 00:58:59,511 Unfortunately, out of stock right now. 1378 00:58:59,511 --> 00:59:01,652 And if you look on Amazon, there's like a grifter, 1379 00:59:01,652 --> 00:59:04,232 like double the price for the unified travel router. 1380 00:59:04,232 --> 00:59:06,853 But if you travel at all often, 1381 00:59:06,853 --> 00:59:08,113 like Jason, you should get one of these. 1382 00:59:08,113 --> 00:59:10,354 It's amazing. I don't know if you care, 1383 00:59:09,689 --> 00:59:11,166 Really? How much am I gonna have to spend? 1384 00:59:10,354 --> 00:59:13,945 but it's still it's 75 bucks. 75 bucks. 1385 00:59:11,166 --> 00:59:14,049 Okay. All right. 1386 00:59:13,945 --> 00:59:15,315 And it's got two Ethernet ports. 1387 00:59:15,315 --> 00:59:17,995 So like when I record MacPower users later in my hotel room, 1388 00:59:17,995 --> 00:59:20,086 I'm gonna connect my MacBook Air via Ethernet. 1389 00:59:20,412 --> 00:59:21,412 So there you go. 1390 00:59:20,417 --> 00:59:21,417 I don't even 1391 00:59:21,041 --> 00:59:23,376 have two Ethernet cables, but I could probably buy those. 1392 00:59:23,376 --> 00:59:24,376 That's pretty easy. 1393 00:59:24,550 --> 00:59:27,103 Can I tell you real quick, I think I killed one of the USB C ports on 1394 00:59:27,103 --> 00:59:30,086 my MacBook Air because whenever I plug something into it, 1395 00:59:30,086 --> 00:59:32,868 nothing happens. My SSD, I can't even charge from it. 1396 00:59:32,868 --> 00:59:36,972 And I think it's because I filmed a stupid pool robot vacuum sponsored video 1397 00:59:37,213 --> 00:59:41,057 and I use my iPhone to film underwater because I had to get underwater shots. 1398 00:59:41,057 --> 00:59:42,928 And before I let it dry all the way, 1399 00:59:42,928 --> 00:59:48,304 I tried connecting a USB-C cable from my iPhone to my Mac to like transfer it video. 1400 00:59:48,900 --> 00:59:51,435 And then I it didn't work. And so I flipped the cable around, 1401 00:59:51,435 --> 00:59:54,571 used a couple cables, and I think I killed that one port with some water damage. 1402 00:59:54,571 --> 00:59:57,006 So that's unfortunate. Yeah. Good. 1403 00:59:55,061 --> 00:59:57,053 Mm. I just wanna be clear, 1404 00:59:57,053 --> 01:00:00,113 I was right. I did find it. It w I I was watching a session. 1405 01:00:00,113 --> 01:00:02,068 I was well listen, this is the session I cared about, 1406 01:00:01,114 --> 01:00:03,119 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 1407 01:00:02,068 --> 01:00:04,711 which was built with the new Apple Foundation model on private cloud compute 1408 01:00:05,071 --> 01:00:06,633 and the watch is included in there. 1409 01:00:06,633 --> 01:00:07,633 So 1410 01:00:07,702 --> 01:00:09,459 I just wanna we should put that as a poll quote. 1411 01:00:09,459 --> 01:00:10,459 I just wanna stay for the record, 1412 01:00:10,347 --> 01:00:12,130 I am right. Whatever you just said. 1413 01:00:12,130 --> 01:00:13,130 That was pretty good. 1414 01:00:12,609 --> 01:00:13,609 I think 1415 01:00:12,930 --> 01:00:14,395 I text Steven all the time and I'm like, 1416 01:00:14,395 --> 01:00:15,633 I think I'm right and you're like, 1417 01:00:15,524 --> 01:00:18,546 I think we're Yeah, yeah. Exactly. 1418 01:00:15,633 --> 01:00:18,627 Yeah, I know you do. I know you think you're right. 1419 01:00:18,546 --> 01:00:19,646 Exactly. 1420 01:00:19,867 --> 01:00:21,658 We didn't get to talk a lot about shortcuts in the main episode, 1421 01:00:21,658 --> 01:00:22,658 but I did a whole video on it. 1422 01:00:22,609 --> 01:00:24,930 I have like I think 18 videos on the channel from this week. 1423 01:00:24,930 --> 01:00:26,938 So we'll put some of those, we'll put Jason's article, 1424 01:00:26,938 --> 01:00:30,344 and we're gonna go record a bonus episode because I gotta take a selfie with Apple's 1425 01:00:30,344 --> 01:00:32,426 forthcoming CEO. Thanks for watching. 1426 01:00:32,426 --> 01:00:33,977 Thanks for listening. We'll catch you next time.