Speaker 1 (0s): Well, good morning everybody.
Speaker 0 (14s): Or is it good afternoon or is it good evening? I guess it depends on when you're listening to this. However, whenever it is, you're listening to this. I'm hopeful that it's good. I had a great weekend cause I'm recording this on Monday. I spoke with an incredible woman this weekend that had such an amazing story. It was like the hero's journey.
And it made me think about how strong people can inspire the lives of all of us. At times we all face adversity. And at times we all face obstacles that we seem are insurmountable and often a lot of us get stuck. And when we get stuck, I think it's important to turn to the stories of people who have made it through those tough times. As an example. So much of the media today is commodified.
And as a father who has a young daughter, I often worry about the examples for her to follow. As far as strong women, my wife is incredibly strong and beautiful, and my mom and the women in my family are very fortunate. They're all that way. The woman I spoke to today, mrs. Mona's shake is a standup comedian who came from Pakistan at the age of 14. She has overcome so many obstacles and the way she carries herself, our outlook on life and her ability to fight with the heart of a champion is really inspiring.
Now, wish I'm hopeful that we'll be seeing more of her. And I wish she was on prime time giving talks at schools and I really admire her courage and I really admire her willingness to be open about life. And I really admire her. So that being said, I hope everyone here enjoys this interview with an incredible woman and you can look her up on the internet on Instagram and are all her links will be in the notes for this particular podcast.
So thank you. I hope you enjoy Aloha.
Speaker 1 (2m 52s): Hello. I'm so Mona, how you doing?
Speaker 2 (3m 0s): I, I got, I'm not gonna lie. I was a little nervous. I was a little stressed out there for a minute, but I feel much better now. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (3m 8s): Thank you. You discovered a new platform. You can connect all your stuff on here and you can, the world can get to know the greatness of George Monte. That is so kind of you to say that. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (3m 21s): Yeah, it's interesting. Cause I was looking at similar platforms to try and understand how to connect everything. Yeah. And it's so nice to know someone that had gone through this that you can kind of piggyback their experience and have them teach.
Speaker 1 (3m 37s): I'm all about that. Piggyback this back is strong. Let's do
Speaker 2 (3m 42s): It is strong. Mona. I've been watching some of your videos.
Speaker 1 (3m 45s): Can I tell you something? Yes.
Speaker 2 (3m 48s): I think you have one of the most amazing stories ever.
Speaker 1 (3m 54s): It's so sweet. You're so kind
Speaker 2 (3m 58s): Truth. I mean, so for a lot of people in my audience that may not know you, maybe you can share a little bit with them, how you got from Pakistan to becoming a successful standup comedian in LA
Speaker 1 (4m 11s): On a boat, on a boat, the boat right. Would have taken way too long. Also I did seasick. So there's also that, how did I, you know, so my family story is, you know, you hear a lot of immigrant stories and I don't know how many immigrant stories you've heard, but there's usually are very similar in the sense, Oh, I came here with $5 in my pocket that kind of our family story is not so much about $5 in my pocket story. Our story is that I have four older brothers.
I'm the youngest and the only girl out of five kids because my parents didn't have a radio or television set. So we ended up being like five and I was like, you guys didn't have any other form of entertainment. Like you just kept making people stop it, stop it. And then I, but the thing is that like in the seventies, my second and my third brother were given expired vaccination for polio and they ended up getting polio because of it.
So my second and my third brother got polio. Of course there was no treatment for them in Pakistan at the time or really around the surrounding areas. So my mom would write letters to hospitals around the world, pretty much saying, Hey, I have two sick kids. They need help. Like I need to get them treatment. And then finally after much trying and after much persistence and just kind of, you know, writing letters out Shriners hospital and Lexington, Kentucky responded to our family and they were very kind. And they said, you know, if you guys just fly yourselves out here, we'll pay for everything.
And that's how we started coming to America, but I didn't move until I was like 15. So my brothers work, I was like six months old when my mom left me behind which at the time I thought it was horrible. I was like, Oh my God, how could you leave a baby behind? And now I look back. I'm like, that was a good move. That was a really solid move. And I'm glad you did that. Mainly because also I think because of my early adult years, my mom wasn't around, my mom is as an individual is very, very strong, solid person.
But the moment you kind of overlap her with the mom part, it just gets up. It gets fuzzy. Once he, George, it gets fuzzy real fast. That other part, maybe the mom things, not for you. You know, my mom was just very strict, very, you know, like, like a good Xapo would be, you know, kinda like the good could stop a feeling going out.
So I guess, you know, as a kid that doesn't really leave much room for you to grow. Cause my mom traveled to the U S so much to get my brothers treated, to get their treatments and stuff. I had a lot of free time on my hands. And that's where all the, this world, the funny thoughts started coming in. That's what started getting all funny up here. So that was just like, it ended up kind of becoming my skate to like write stories and create like funny, weird things. And yeah, I think for me, so like I moved out, my parents sent me here to live with my four older brothers.
Cause my parents never really lived here. They would just come visit. So they sent us here for, to get educated and stuff. So my four brothers came here and then it was like, Oh, do we send the girl or not? And my mom was like, no, no, no, the girl totally goes at the boys, goes in the girl, which is totally kudos. Kudos to my mom. So I got here and yeah, I grew up in Jersey city, which I did not know was located in America because the moment I got here and I was like, this can't be America.
There was no way in hell. This looks like, cause that's not what I saw on the movie home alone. Cause otherwise, and it was very fancy. Well did I know like suburbia is very different Jersey city. Have you been to Jersey? George? No, but I have a lot of my family and friends from there. Okay. Just keep it that they invite you.
Don't go. Just, don't go meet him in New York city. Like now don't even go to New York city. Cause it's like, it's like, it's like Rona land. It's like ridiculous. So it's really bad. It's really bad. But yeah, that's kinda how I ended up. And by the time I was 18, I had already kinda packed my bags and headed out fun fact about my family grew up, I guess just grew up in a very, kind of like a physically violent household, like a lot.
And in the process I would also get a lot of, you know, taking a lot of shots. And then as an adult, I ended up falling in love with boxing and I was like, I get it. I get why I like boxing. Cause two people get to beat the crap out of each other. Unlike my childhood where only one person gets to get the kid's shit kicked out of them. Sorry. Sorry. That's all right. But I think for me it's, you know, it was, yeah.
So I think even as you know, when I moved out here, I live with my older brothers and even that was a pretty, that was a very violent household too. My brothers were also very physically violent towards me. So I was just like, I gotta get outta here before like shit goes crazy. So what I turned 18, I got into a fight with the one night I just packed up my bags and I left and I never looked back. So I've just been on my own ever since. So that was like five years ago.
Speaker 2 (10m 11s): What do you think are the chances, do you know any other women that from Pakistan that made it to LA and do what you do
Speaker 1 (10m 21s): In, in my journey? Like the way I did not. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10m 25s): I don't know anybody. Do you know any other women from any other country that have done what you've done?
Speaker 1 (10m 31s): Hmm, not that I know of.
Speaker 2 (10m 34s): Now, do you, are you beginning to see how amazing you are to have
Speaker 1 (10m 41s): You look there might be stories out there that I just haven't heard. It doesn't be like, you know, I'm so like woo. But no, my story is very unique in the sense that like, I don't know anybody like myself, especially from my background. I don't know anybody because most of the people I know of my background, you know, they came with their families and they live in their homes. Like they went to school and their parents supported them or whatever, or them, but they didn't grow up with this kind of this level of tumultuous and chaos.
Like I did
Speaker 2 (11m 14s): It's it seems to me that sometimes the people we think that have, that are the most unfortunate have the most opportunity. And like, when I, when I hear the story that you just told me, yeah. Like I had this weird philosophy that like the world, the world makes you go through tragic events because it loves you. And it's like, you know what? I think that this person can handle this tragic event and come out of it better and teach people.
You know, I think that that's the way the world works and it unfortunately breaks a lot of people, but the world puts you specifically through something because it in you and it's like this girl can do it. And when she gets through it, she's, she's going to be, she's going to start off like this block of concrete, this block of marble. And I'm going to take this hammer
Speaker 1 (12m 6s): Chisel. And I am a wagon as hard as I can.
Speaker 2 (12m 8s): Yeah. But when I'm done, you're going to have the most beautiful work of art you've ever seen. And then people are gonna look at that work of art in, in one to be like that and hear the story of that. And when I, when I hear stories of, of yours, like, and I see strong women and I try to apply it to my life, I think that's the purpose of tragedy. And I think that's the purpose of, of going through life and facing adversity and coming out the other side and telling your story is so that, you know, you, you, you influence people and you tell people, and it's true.
Speaker 1 (12m 39s): I believe the plan
Speaker 2 (12m 40s): People you're going to help. You may never know them, but your story can be a story that, you know, there could be a girl in Pakistan. It's like, there's this girl, Mona
Speaker 1 (12m 52s): Elliot became a comedian. And
Speaker 2 (12m 54s): As far as correct me if I'm wrong, but in the Muslim faith, it's probably not very, very looked high upon to become an artist. Right.
Speaker 1 (13m 2s): Especially for a woman, not, not at all. I mean, my brother, I remember very specifically telling me he was like, you mean, you want to be a whore? Yeah. He was like, you mean, you want to be a whore. And I was like, whores, get paid a lot more than maybe I should switch professions, drink tickets and walked out with $200 and up like how much more value whores, like where on the bottom rung of things?
Like, how are you talking about? But yeah, I remember my brother very specifically telling you that. And I was just like, I guess, but yeah, that's the, sadly, that is the mentality. But you know, let me tell you something, you know, and I am a very kind of outspoken person about this. There is tremendous, there's tremendous. I think there's a pharmacy in every culture and every faith. And I don't know, sorry. Pardon me if you're religious or almost unfindable.
I mean, I am not, I don't consider myself a religious person. I do consider myself a culturally, culturally Muslim person. I do myself a very spiritual person because of the level of adversity that I have been through. I don't think I would have been able to survive. Had I not had that kind of connection with God the way I do. And it has nothing to do with organized fate that has to do with my, my connection, my just personal, personal line to God. You know, he just kind of having faith and having seen, see things, things come through when times were really, really hard, like times were really, really difficult.
Mean I, you have to understand, like imagine, imagine a young girl comes from another country at 15, she has to leave home by 18. There was no money. There's no job prospects. There was like, literally nothing. There's like nothing lined up. It's just like, I'm looking at like a blank space. And I'm just saying, look, I would rather sleep on the sidewalk. Then go back to a home where I'm consistently beaten and disrespected. Right. I would rather sleep on the sidewalk. Right. And for me, honestly, I look back on it and I'm like, I was a little, I was a little nuts back then.
Like, Holy moly, that shit today, if somebody is literally, I'm like, you know what, let's work it out. How many punches out? We're talking like two bunches let's work out two buttons. I mean, I just, I, it was just, I was just like, I have that bigger and that kind of energy, but you know, as you age, my knees are like, I'm like, look, I can't, I can't do this. Yeah. I can't do this. I need to stay here and lie on the couch for a little bit.
The couch is very comfortable. I checked get up. But yeah. I mean, I feel like, you know, I, I have a lot of, it's interesting when I do shows and people walk up to me and talk to me and they're like, Oh my God, your story inspired me so much. Or all you, you know, you gave me these breakthroughs or you helped me, you know, overcome my fear. I mean, those things are that those things are like the most to me, like, like it's nice, it's nice to get, you know, being featured in Forbes magazine.
It's nice to be, you know, on all these like LA times LA weekly, all these places. But I think for me, the ultimate reward is having gone through the kind of experiences that I have is somebody walking up to me and being like, you know what? I'm not afraid anymore because of X, because I saw you do it. And then I'm no longer afraid of that, you know? And I'm like, Oh, that is, that's awesome. Like that's powerful. You know, that's like, that really kind of motivates me.
Speaker 2 (17m 3s): Yeah. So as I've like, I've had some similar issues, I've had issues of tragedy, not unlike your issues of tragedy. Like I've when I was molested when I was younger. And then it's, it's amazing to see how that first off it, it ruins a family unit, you know, and it, it causes a lot of problems in between the family. And it takes whenever there's a tragedy at a young age, I think it takes that young person a very difficult amount of time to integrate that particular situation into their life and make sense of it and understand.
But it's also that tragedy, that's forces the Rose colored glasses off your space, and it forces you to see reality the way it is instead of the way you want it to be. And as difficult as that is at a young age, it's incredibly empowering as you get older, because you have been given in a weird way, you've been given this gift of foresight and you can see, I bet you, I bet you can see young girls that are probably, that are probably going through what you went through. Like you can see in them how you felt when you were young and you have this ability to, Oh, this person's going through something, Oh, this person is in a bad situation because you went through it.
Now you can see that in other people, you know, I, I met, I met this girl one time at the part where my kid plays sometimes. And you know, I always, I was starting to talk to her and we, you know, they would go down on Saturdays and they became friends with our family. And, and I remember her on the phone and she was like kinda mad and yelling and stuff. I'm like, Oh, and she got the phone. I'm like, are you okay? She's like, you know what? I don't talk to my family anymore. Like I haven't talked to him in 10 years and this person is trying to get ahold of me and they're just disgusting. And all of a sudden something triggered in my mind.
And I started looking at her and then like I noticed the relationship she had with her husband was like really conservative. And then I started listening to the way she was talking to her kid, like, Hey, don't, don't talk to them. And I could see in her something that had happened to me and I was like, you know, it just kind of all fit together a little bit. And I could see the pain in her. And, you know, I, I told her one time, I says, you know, when, when it comes to your family, like, it seems like something may have happened to you that you're holding onto, you know?
And she kind of looked at me like crazy. And I'm like, the funny thing is what happened to you? People go to college to go, people go to college and they take all these classes in psychology to learn how to deal with people. But what happened to you? You got to learn it for free. You know what I mean? So, yeah. I'm not sure if that came out the way I wanted it to, but I guess I'm trying to say that you can see in other people that the tragedy that happened to you and you got the ability to help them.
Speaker 1 (19m 60s): Yeah. I mean, first of all, I'm so sorry that you experienced that. And that, that, that is so absolutely devastating. I, you know, I didn't, I didn't experience a molestation, but I did have an uncle who came over to moleskin. And I remember that very specifically, cause that was about 12 years old, 12, 13 years old. No more than that, but I didn't know. Back then it was very slick.
I was like, Oh, you can't do the wrong girl. That's just not gonna work for you. Yeah. He came over and I, I think I really, you know, it's just like when you don't grow up in an environment where you don't really get to see your worth because people around you, your own family does not let you see your own worth. Can I, can I, can I, can I kinda on this show? Absolutely whatever you want. I always believe, and this is something that I always talk about is you have to unfuck yourself, right.
Or job as an adult to unfuck yourself, you yes. Should happen to you. Yes. Tragedy occurred right? At the end of the day, are you going to continuously live your life as if you are still in that place? Or are you going to live your life as the person that you are today? So how do you do yourself? Do you do that to yourself? You have to unfuck yourself. You don't have to go to therapy. I mean, look, I've been there 13 years. I am a huge advocate of therapy. You know, mental health is one of the most underrated things in the world.
And in the world, like people dismiss mental health. Like it's nothing. It's like no mental health is everything. I mean, everything we do on a daily basis, our existence, how we react to people, how we interact with family members, the fact, the way that people have children and the kind of shit that pass onto their kids. But the fact that they don't even understand their own psychologist is passing this trash onto their kids. Like time to go to therapy, take the time to work on yourself, take time to fix that part of yourself.
And you've been me and may call it mental therapy. I, to me, like I have been able to channel my spirituality through mental health. Like the fact that I'm going to therapy that has single handedly, you know, not ended up making me a freaking basket case. I'm not like in a fricking straight jacket. Okay. Get out of the strip, get out of the very straight jacket that people put you in. Right? You have to, you have to get back to that true person of who you were before people started fucking with you.
Right? You have to like, you have to get back to you and that's your job. That's your responsibility to get back to that, you know, in order to live the life that you want to. And I am a, I'm a huge advocate of it. I think I, I, listen, I'm not perfect. I definitely have moments. I slipped back. I have moments where I'm depressed, where I can't get out of bed for two days. And I have to literally have a conversation with myself. These two sides of me, you know, there was the depressed kid in me.
And then there is the adult that constantly like pulls that kid out of that depression. You know, I said those two things about myself, but I think a lot of people on a daily basis suffer and don't even know that these conversations are happening in their head because there's no awareness, right? Because, because when you're in your head, it's all very subjective, but you need a person who's sitting on the outside, who's looking at things objectively to point things out to you and be like, look, this is what these are your patterns like is how you do things and it's not working for you.
So let me give you some tools that will help you. Let me give you, let me show you some pathway is that will be a lot more productive for you rather than, you know, shooting up drugs and drinking yourself subtly because that's the only way you self medicate yourself. I think there are, you know, other healthier ways to do that. You can meditate, you can go for a walk, you can go hiking, you can go swimming, you can go bike riding. You can go many other ways to channel that energy rather than, you know, I dunno, eat a bunch of Twinkies to feel good, which is usually what I do in the pen.
But that's besides the point.
Speaker 2 (24m 23s): Yeah, it's interesting too, because that's feeling, I think sometimes people that are in destructive patterns, but when you get into that, that emotion of rage, like you can fuel yourself with rage. And like, if you get into like that feeling of hate, like you can, you can phew, fuel yourself. It's very toxic, but you can use it as energy, you know? And I think a lot of people get stuck in these different emotions and they don't know how to get out. Like you said, and they don't understand their pattern of thinking and they don't understand why do things, or maybe they don't want to think about it.
Like they don't want to go back and solve it because they're ashamed or there's something wrong. They think there's nothing wrong with them, but they don't want to.
Speaker 1 (25m 5s): I mean, I've heard of it.
Speaker 2 (25m 6s): You figure it out for yourself and you move forward because you can't ever continue your life until you solve that issue that happened to you.
Speaker 1 (25m 14s): Oh, a hundred percent. I mean, I don't know about you. Like, did you end up going to therapy or what you experienced as a kid?
Speaker 2 (25m 20s): Absolutely. Yeah, I did. And I, I mean,
Speaker 1 (25m 26s): Did it help you go into therapy?
Speaker 2 (25m 28s): Absolutely. Absolutely. And that path of therapy led to me doing just an incredible amount of reading in a, in an incredible amount, learning how to be honest with myself. I think that that event kind of made me who I am today and in a weird way, it's not like I'm proud of it, but in a weird way, like I think it made me, like I said, have to see the world the way it is. And I think it made me a more caring and loving and helpful person to, to integrate all that.
Like it takes a lot of work. Like if you go to therapy, you have to do a lot of work on yourself to figure out what does this mean? Does it hurt me? What about the person that did it to me? Like, I feel more, I feel worse for that person cause that it happened to that person and that person's life was destroyed. And like they beat themselves up worse than I beat myself up. You know, w w for someone to go through a situation, whether it be abusive to home or any kind of tragedy in that event, if you get through it, once you walk that perilous pathway to clarity, you're going to come out better and you're going to be able to help people.
And like, I've been able to help. Like I think one thing we share is that because of that adversity, we've been able to help people when you can help other people and you can see kind of the light begin to blossom in their mind and be like, Oh yeah, you're right. I never thought about it like that. Or, Oh my God, maybe that is why I'm so artistic. Or maybe that's why I pushed myself into this outlet. Like when you can help other people, I think that that's the greatest gift you can do. And then when you look at it from that angle, maybe that's why that even happened to you.
That even happened to you because somewhere along the line path, God, or whatever, divine creator you believe in wanting to use you as a conduit, a conduit to help other people. And that's the way I think that I've integrated it and it seems to be working.
Speaker 1 (27m 21s): Yeah. I mean, I feel like, I feel like the, I feel like the ultimate kind of ranking of spirituality is helping others. You know, that's like really the ultimate, right? I mean, it's one thing to gather, you know, money and fame and that stuff. It's like, Oh, I that's stuffs. Sure. It's nice. Not, it's nice about it. But I think the, the ultimate is, you know, I look, I, I see a lot of, you know, being in LA a lot of see a lot of celebrities meet a lot of, a lot of very established people and I see how they are like, you know, they make money and they're very well in their careers and stuff like that.
But I don't see them kind of, they're kind of spiritual journey kind of going to the next level of why they're, where they want to help people. Right. It's not like they don't want to, because it wants to just gather just this, like, it's mine. I don't want to share this, you know? And I think for me, for me, I think I'm, maybe I'm just like wired that way. I think I've always been that way as a kid, but also, also I want to give like, you know, kudos to my parents. Cause my parents were also very generous people. They also generously beat the shit out of us, but they're all people generously, you know, very generous and, you know, helping other people, you know, I saw my parents like genuinely go out of their way to help people.
And I think that really, it's still this thing in me where I was just like, Oh, helping is good. Like helping is, you know, helping how I, and I think as an adult, for me, it's just become more about, you know, about feeling good. You know, it's just like, feel good. Like you don't have to give me anything back. It just feels good to help. How can I help? You know? And I think for me, it's like, that's I, that, that's what I do. You know, I, I don't think in terms of just building a table for yourself, like, it's like, how big and how long can your table, how can you invite to your table?
That's a great analogy. Yeah. How many people can you invite to your table? You? I was like, Oh, we have another chair. Yeah. Come on in, come on in. Yeah, you too. Come on in, you know, you're welcome. Have a seat, take it to, you know, make yourself at home. And I think for me, it's like, that's that? I don't know. That's, that's kinda how I try to live my life as much as I can. Yeah. I have
Speaker 2 (29m 42s): A, I have a young daughter and I was, you know, it seems to me that there is some of the things on TV and I'm sure I'm originally from San Diego. So I spent a lot of time and look at that. Yeah. Yeah. And so when I moved to Hawaii, by the way, I'm in a wahoo. Wow, nice. Yeah. Yeah. It's Hawaii is I think it is the most beautiful place on the planet. And I didn't realize how sick I was until I moved to Hawaii.
And like, I started like talking to people here and I started realizing that my patterns of speech and a lot of my speech patterns prior to moving here were like, dude, I got to Lincoln navigator. And then I was living by the water and, you know, to Hobbit as one girl, like so much of my thought process was like what I have. And like that, that's how I, that's how I like that was how I understood myself was based on my possessions. And when I moved out here, like it was, it was like, it was like dying and being reborn because so many people were like, you're so what are you talking about?
You are so dumb. You're so gross. Like what, who cares about what you had? And I'm like, well, I'm just trying to, like, I'm just saying same thing. As I said, back home, they made friends and for so long, you know, it's a trend. It takes a while to rebuild and regrow and reimagine yourself. And after a while I would call back to some of my friends and like, I could hear their speech patterns, but mine had changed. And it was like, you have to hear what I used to sound like by talking to some of my older friends. And I was like, Oh well that's.
Yeah. And like another thing for me moving out here as like, you know, my, as a white guy who grew up in Caucasian acres in San Diego, when I moved, it's not a real place, but when I moved out here to Hawaii, there's so much more culturally diverse. It's such a rich culture of people from all over the world. And when I began to get exposed to that and I began to get exposed to people that speak tonal languages versus English and different cultures and different methods, it just, it was like my mind blew up.
And I began to realize when I speak to people, if I speak to someone, one from maybe Korea or from maybe Laos that, you know, they, they have a total language. So if I get real close to them and I'm like, you know, well, I could say the same thing. However, if I change the tone, it could be offensive or it could be not offensive. And as I, as I have moved further on my journey and I'm still learning, like the way we communicate to people is, is bearable. We're like barbarians.
It seems like, it seems like we have a very difficult time explaining stuff. And so I've come to this conclusion that language and can change the world if people take time to travel and not only talk to other people, but take a few moments to understand the culture in which the person is coming from then. And only then can you understand what that person cares about and feels about him and how to talk to them? And yeah, our communication is it's, it just saddens me because no one ever sits down and takes time to like define their terms.
Or I spent so much time thinking of things to say when I should've been listening.
Speaker 1 (33m 10s): Yeah, yeah, yeah. I understand. I, you know, I think that's more of like, that's a very American thing, you know, I think like having grown up here and having more, spent more time in the U S and it's like, when I traveled to Europe or when I travel a lot to Asia, whatever, I feel like the ugly Americans sometimes, because sometimes I'm just, and I'm like, Oh my God, I'm sold the ugly American. I remember going to London to do shows and stuff.
And I remember being in London at a bar and just talking to my friend and, and just being, just being, just being fucking American.
Speaker 2 (33m 51s): Right. Right.
Speaker 1 (33m 53s): Yeah. And I remember like them looking at me, I was like, Oh my God, this is so embarrassing. Wow. Where is my level of awareness right now? And I think that's why I think people need to travel like out, like step outside your town. Other people live, get perspective. And I think, I feel like a lot of people, because if you don't, I think, I think traveling is like the single greatest gift you can give to yourself quite frankly, more than like buying a stupid BMW or, you know, I mean, I met people like adults, like in their forties and they're like, never left the country.
I'm like, what do you mean? What do you mean never left the country. They're like, no, I love the country. But you have three kids before you had three kids. You can think about maybe traveling the world. What about for your honeymoon? You don't want to go out. They're like, no, just, just want to San Diego. And I had my honeymoon there just venture out and do this big planet we live on. You don't want to, you don't want to do that. But I guess some people don't see it as priority. And I quite frankly think as human beings, we kind of owe it to ourselves that if you are in a position of traveling and have enough means to travel, like it will single handedly, you know, add so much value to your life.
It will add so much value to you as a person. What it does for you is I don't think I can even put it in words, quite frankly. I mean, for me, like, I think that besides the, all the, all the bullshit that I've been through in my life, I think for me, travel has singlehandedly also raised so much of my awareness has, you know, add, it has just made me a better person because I no longer look at life or the, just from my own filter. It's just like, wow, these are all these different people.
How they're just trying to, they're all trying to get this thing. Right. I feel like not to get a little dark, but when September 11th happened, I was in New York city. Right. So as a Muslim person, I mean, we were experiencing a lot of backlash. Right. It was just like these Muslims and this and that. But I feel like as time has passed by, and as more Muslims have come, I guess come up and have been a little bit more in people's periphery. Like myself, there are a lot of other Muslim comics, actors, you know, Changemakers, generalists, that kind of weird twisted.
Like we have, like, we're just walking around saying a lot walk bar all day like that, man. I don't have time like that. I'm like, you don't love my jihad passing by Ben and Jerry's and not walking in that you have mean struggle. Okay. Many people don't have that because they never traveled. They don't know the number, minimal some person. They don't know what it's like, like a bunch of freaking weird aliens.
There are just like, from another planet, just out here, fucking killing everybody. It's just like, do
Speaker 3 (36m 60s): I don't have time like that? Like I got
Speaker 1 (37m 2s): Jokes too. Right? Let's tell people let's go. I don't have time to do this level of hatred that you're describing to me now, are there, are there people that who want to hurt other people, including you and me, they, by the way, have no prejudice and they want to kill me. Right. Those assholes out there. Absolutely. Did I end up for one second, please also put this thing in perspective, right? I feel like I've been making this joke recently that I feel like if every religion and every race, you know, the good people or the more sane people got together in every race and every culture were just like putting a stop to the assholes in their culture, the world wouldn't be so much of a better place.
Like, you know, it's just like all the good people are just gathering one saying, you know, at any time an asshole is like, I don't hate, I don't like that race. Just slap them right across the face and say, shut your mouth and sit down. Like you don't know, you know, like take the time to know somebody like take the time, you know? And I think that level, and I think when you travel that level of ignorance, subsides, it just like in your case, right? Yeah. I mean, you just went to Hawaii and you were like, my world has changed.
Right. You know? So I'm, I'm a big advocate of, I mean, I know because of the Rona, we can't really travel right now, but when we do travel, you know, I'm a, I encourage that a lot. I think there's a lot value to be had. And I think of, and also you won't sound so dumb when you talk.
Speaker 2 (38m 41s): That's so true. You know what I think about, like, I get so sad and right now to see how divided like our country is. And when we speak of travel, when I was really lucky when I was in high school, that we had a foreign exchange student come from Sweden. And like, the guy was amazing. He's just, he became like a, like, I never had an older brother. I have one older sister, but I never had an older brother. And he became like this icon for me. And it was just like this explosion of culture that came into my life.
And it, it really helped to expand my idea of what people are and what the world is. And when I think about our country, you know, if, what if there was some sort of program we're in, since we're re-imagining education right now, what if kids from like New York could go spend time? Like part of their schooling would be to spend six months in Kentucky with a family and that they sit down and they talk and they're like, Hey, this is what, here's why we think this.
And here's why we think this, you know what, I've always found that when I sat down with someone that I was, maybe didn't think the same as I might not have come out thinking the same as them, but I came out with a perspective, like I totally get their point. Like, yeah, that totally makes sense. You know, sometimes when we're, so we have these walls up where we're like, I'm going to talk to that person. Like it's when you get to the point where you say, I'm not going to talk to that person, you get to the point where you can't move forward. And so like, I've been thinking a lot about education and how do we, how do we, you know, turn the lies and hate to love and truth.
And the only way to do that is to have a conversation. And it just seems to me, like, sometimes we're at a point where we can't have a conversation and
Speaker 1 (40m 25s): Yeah, I feel like, you know, I don't know if you know this, but the education system is rated one of the lowest education systems in the world. I mean, you know, when I moved at 15, the math that we were doing in 11th grade, in high school here, I had done that in eighth grade in Pakistan just to get my, I was so good at it that I would just sit in class because I was getting, I was getting straight A's that I didn't have to take the final exam because I just, I didn't need to.
And my career specifically told me, can you please just sit in the class with the other students won't feel bad that you aren't sure, sure. I will sit here. So other people don't feel bad. Right. But yeah, I feel like our education system needs and a massive, a massive upgrade. I, I absolutely believe that. That's number one. Number two. I think a lot of people confuse education.
Some have people think that if you're educated, your ignorance is not there. No, that has nothing to do with it. You can still be educated and still be ignorant. You still can. I mean, I see it. I see it on the Pakistani community where we have doctors and engineers and lawyers successful, super educated. Some of the dumbest shit comes out of their mouth. You're just like, did you listen to an idiot? You know, they're educated, but they're also ignorant.
Like education does not always equal, not ignorance. You can still be ignorant. I think a lot of the ignorance goes away is I think when traveling comes into place and locked in with other people comes in play, that is the real life education. Like you can go and get a college degree and partied your way all through school and not learn shit. Like you're, I'm in debt. And now I gotta like work odd jobs to pay off my student debt, but I didn't learn anything. I really didn't. Right.
Maybe yes. Going to college helps you kind of develop social skills. You'd learn how to interact with people. But that is an expensive social education.
Speaker 4 (42m 41s): Yup. Right.
Speaker 1 (42m 44s): 5% of college and university grads do not use their degrees. It is a scam. I'm sorry. I am a college dropout. I am not a fan of education in that sense that, you know, if you don't know what you're going to college for,
Speaker 4 (42m 57s): Don't go, don't want to go to a trade school,
Speaker 1 (42m 59s): Go learn the skillset. You know, Elon Musk was asked, would you send your kids to college? And he goes, absolutely not. My kids would go to a trade school. Right. Because he knows a lot of kids go to school. They just party right. Have a good time, put in whatever paperwork, get their degree. And then, and they're like, I don't know what I did for the past four years. I really don't. You know, and I'm just, I'm not an advocate of that. I don't care. I'd rather you take that money and maybe travel. That is an incredible education you're going to get to come back.
Enlightened probably came up with some great freaking ideas. I've maybe, you know, you want to go maybe live abroad for a little bit and do something incredible. But rather than just, Oh, I partied my life away for the past four years. And now I don't know. You know, now I have a college debt. I have still, you know, all the school debt that I got to pay off. And I have friends like that. You know, they're still, they make really good money, but they have all this student debt. They're just like, I'm trying to pay it down, but it's so expensive. But so coming back to the point about, you know, education, I feel our education system.
Also our education system is not designed for entrepreneurs, not in this life. There is not a single school that I can go to as an entrepreneur that would teach me what I have learned in real life. There's just no way, you know, in college, we don't even teach basic things, change how to change your car's tire. Basic things, how to checkup, battles, how to save money, how much money, how much part of your paycheck should be. If you were not fortunate enough to have parents who were, you know, taught you how to take care of money, how to invest money, you're screwed, like rude.
You are going to come out and just gonna, you know, spend all your money like I did because I very young age, I was making a lot of money and like an idiot. I just spent it. I don't know any better. I didn't have any that kind of finance education, finance education, basic skills on every single day of how, you know, you live your life. I mean, teach kids how to like make a meal for themselves, teach them how to grow vegetables, like stuff, man, that they could actually use that comes in handy rather than you teaching me about like equals MC squared.
That I'm never freaking than a, you know, I'm not putting equals MC squared down. If you're going to become a chemist or whatever, is it that you're going to become on what, for me that's useless. Right? That's useless. I feel like, I feel like there needs to be some kind of, some kind of test or something that kind of also puts children on their paths. Like, Hey, this is your strong suit. You should try to pursue this. You know, don't try to, you know, Einstein was asked a genius, like, well, the definition of genius and I'm totally paraphrasing now, like yeah, if, if you ask a fish to climb a tree, it's going to think it's stupid for the rest of his life.
That's so funny. I mean, it's true. Right? You climb a tree, you know? So I feel like those kinds of critical thinking processes that I'm talking about are not, their children are kids in school are not made to have critical thinking capabilities. They're just not, you know, they don't, they don't have that. You know, you'll ask them about their opinions. Kids are being kind of told a narrative and they're just belief believing narrative. I'm not saying that's for all, but I believe that there has to be certain level of critical thinking that has to be incorporated pretty early on.
I'm talking about as young as like middle school that they're gonna, they're gonna go on to become they're the future of the world. Like that's important, you know?
Speaker 2 (46m 41s): Yeah. We did. I went to a parent teacher conference a while back and when I'm real lucky, I'm really lucky. My, my daughter goes to a really awesome school. And in the interview for the school, the teacher private private school, and, you know, during the interview for the, we were talking to the teacher and she was, she had asked our thoughts on education and, you know, I had done some reading on it. And if you look at the American education system, it's, it's based on like the Prussian system of training obedient workers.
And that's why you have bells and whistles and 30 kids sitting down in a teacher standing up. So they look up to them and they're not, they're not trained to think critically, they're trained to be obedient workers and they're trained do what they're told. They're trained to be smart enough to fill out paperwork, but not get in the way of understanding the guy on the top of steel and everything. They don't want them in the way of that. No, one's smart enough to do all that stuff. And so, you know,
Speaker 5 (47m 43s): There's a,
Speaker 2 (47m 45s): There's a better way to do it. And I think that if you, if you look at the technology we're using, I read this incredible book it's called tech Natalee by Neil postman. And he talks, he starts off the book about talking about how for every new technology we use, it takes something away. And the example that he used was that he went all the way back to like Plato. And in, in, in the, there's a story in Plato's.
I don't think it's played out for public, but it's, there's this story that talks about how the creation of writing when it talks about writing was created. And this is, look, I'm going to, I'm going to establish this form of communication called writing, and it's going to help everybody remember stuff. And the rebuttal to the guy who said writing was good. So listen, you're going to establish this form of communication that gives the appearance of intelligence. People are going to be able to read other people's experience and able to talk about it, but they don't have that experience.
So while they're going to sound intelligent, they're going to be dumb because they don't have the experience and you can't teach something if you haven't had experience. And so I think moving forward on education, one thing we can do is teach the history of every subject. You know, whether it's English or whether it's math, like I think every subject should have a, a foundation in history, you know, and that helps with the critical thinking. It helps with the child understanding why you're learning this and why it's important and what happened in the past with this particular subject.
And I think that education is going to change forever right now. And then that's a good thing. I think that when I think about the coronavirus, I think that there's a really positive changes happening that are cloaked in this shadow of despair. Like a lot of people are really worried right now and scared. And, but one thing I've noticed on it is like the people's eye contact. Cause everyone's wearing a mask, but you have to look at people's eyes. And I have, I have, I've failed to notice for so long how beautiful eye contact is with people.
And if you just, if you're staring at someone's eyes, it's almost like the communication is more pure. And it's so long, we have been caught up in this community where we're going and moving. And now we're forced. If you want to know what someone's saying under their mass, you really have to pay attention. You got to look at them in the eyes. I think that's a positive change. And I think that there's some cool things happen in here. And I'm not sure how I got to. I mean, listen, the reckoning that is 2020, somebody said to, if you look
Speaker 1 (50m 28s): At 2020, what else is 2020? Yeah. A vision is 2020 poorly clear that's 2020. I feel like that's exactly what's happening. I mean, look at all the, all the people that have been doing wrong for so long, there is a, there's a level of reckoning that's happening on a level that we've never seen before. Very, very powerful people being brought down in a way that we never saw that we never thought that that will come down on, you know, those kinds of truths will come forward and their bullshit was going to be exposed.
So I feel like 20, 20 as bad as it is. I mean, the fact that we have a thousand Americans dying every day, you know, every 80 seconds and American death is right now, we have over 161,000 bed Americans that could have been from my girlfriends had passed away. One was 41 was 47, very, very young. My friends, both parents died two weeks apart from each other because of COVID. I mean, this is, I mean like death is, death is very much present, right?
It's just, our life is very fickle. Like, like we could all, we could just be gone. Like this virus is not, this virus is not like, Oh, Oh, you're Oh, you're a Pakistan. So it's for everybody. And I think like the level of that, the way the leveling is happening, I, if, if this isn't making us recognize our humanity and realizing that we are all pretty much on like that same level, like at the end of the day, as powerful as we may think we are.
And as you know, as strength and how much money we have and all that at the end of the day, the viruses, like I really don't care.
Speaker 6 (52m 15s): Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52m 17s): No vaccine out. There's no real and out. So you're going to suffer just like everybody else. Right. If you're a billionaire or whether you're poor, everybody's kind of suffering, you know, the, the virus is going to come and get you. Now, there is a different thing. And I think a lot of celebrities got mocked for it. And rightfully so, you know, gal Goodell who played up when you're a woman, I don't know if he was talking to me, you know, she made a video about the song. Imagine with like her bunch of celebrity friends, like imagine, you know, and it was like, bitch, shut the fuck up.
Like, get the fuck up. Okay. Sitting in your fancy home with your rich husband and you have your bills paid, you don't know what it's like for somebody who works for Lyft or delivers food for Postmates or, you know, lost their jobs and have to feed their family and have to pay rent or, you know, they can't make mortgage. What's going to happen. You know? It's like, imagine
Speaker 6 (53m 18s): Stop it. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (53m 20s): Well, imagine you shut the fuck up. How about you imagine, how about, you know, let's imagine. So I think a lot of celebrity, like Ellen got in a lot of trouble look islands, and a lot of trouble right now Elon's generous, like toxic environment that she has created all these years. That reckoning is happening right now. As we speak, I personally know a girlfriend of mine who actually her article just came out about what, how Porsche and Ellen treated her and tried to get her fired from her job.
You know, it's just like that level of reckoning is happening for a reason because humans have been fucking up for a long time, not exclusive in America, across the country, across the world, like people have been messing up 2020 is such a reminder, such a big reminder of how vulnerable we really are, regardless of our wealthy, right. The great equalizer, the great equalizer. I mean, it's just, it was just leveling the field, man.
Just leveling it out, you know, which is good. But also is of course, very bad because there are people who are dying that we could have just been fermented. It could have, it could have been prevented. You know, somehow we are, we value doctors when we have to get surgery and or we end up breaking our leg or, you know, have to be treated for cancer or AIDS or whatever. But, but somehow when it comes to the virus, people somehow are just like, I don't believe the doctors.
Well, you believe them before. Right?
Speaker 4 (55m 0s): Okay.
Speaker 1 (55m 1s): What, Oh, they're changing their story every day. They're not changing the story. They're just learning things in real time that they don't know anything about this virus. So what they're doing is they're trying to work as hard as they can. I have two scientists, one scientist friend he's in Germany. He was, he was, he's one of the lead. He's also my ex, but he's one of the lead cancer research scientists. Right? He's wonderful, brilliant man. And I had him on and we talked about how in Germany, they've been able to take measures and be able to reduce the virus in, you know, in a pretty short period of time and how they've been, had their managed to do that.
And one of the key things is, Hey, people don't know Anglo Marco. One of my absolute heroes who I love and adore is also a scientist. Right? We talk about being a frigging overachiever. It's like, we get it, we get it. You're like a scientist. And you're the leader of the, the strongest nation in your, in European union. We get it. You're an overachiever. What are you? What are you? Indian Pakistani. Cause that's where I be like these massive overachievers, you know, Oh, what's the next move.
You're going to go to the planet by it. You go to the moon by yourself. What's going to happen next angle up. We get it. I love her. I love her to pieces. She's great. And he was talking about the, the Anglo Merkel went on national television Germany and said, okay guys, we have two options. Either we can take extreme measures, shut everything down for a period of time for few number of weeks, bring this virus down because it's not going to have holster caries. Right? It's not that it's not going to spread the way it's spreading or we can just be like a little bit strict.
Just where mass do the social distancing. What do you guys overwhelming? Majority of German Germany voted for extreme measures. Yeah. I asked him why is that? He goes, the reason being Italy and Spain is my next door to us. They had so many dead bodies that they had told in their military to store the bodies on the military bases. They didn't have, they were running out of body bags. That's how many people were dying on a daily basis.
So Germany got freaked out and they were like, we don't want this. We don't want to run out of body bags like Germans dying. Like, are you freaking kidding me? We're going to take extreme measures. And so they get, there are lunatics in Germany who were taking it out to the streets and they were like, you know, you know, we were not going to wear a mask and this and that. And the rest of the country was just like, shut the fuck up shit. I mean, yes, education is a big deal, but there's also, those people are educated, right?
People are educated will going out, take it into the streets and saying, we're not going to wear masks. But the other, the overwhelming majority is like, shut the fuck up, go home. We don't need this. We need to control this virus. And they've been quite, they've been very, very successful at it. You know, they've been very, very successful at it. So I feel like in America who are seeing the side of Americans that we knew existed, right. We kind of knew it on the side, in the back of our head, but now it's just all coming to a head where, you know, not to get political, but it is, it is relative to this conversation.
Our leader somehow keeps dismissing, you know, research and scientists are wonderful and amazing dr. Fowchee, who I, I really like somehow keep dismissing what the scientists have to say, you know, because he want, he has a narrative that wants to be, he wants it served. And he is going to serve that at the cost of American lives. That is not good leadership.
Speaker 0 (58m 55s): Yeah. It seems like. I think one disconnect that people have is that there's so much information out there and like, like I can see it in my own family. Like my mom she'll watch CNN nonstop. And then my dad will watch like Fox news. And it's like, you know, too, there's these two diametrically opposed messages being put out there. And it's not, I don't, I don't think people are bad. I think it's just that they've been given information. That is something that they want to believe or something that they, they, they trust this person or they trust that person.
And because there is so much information out there and
Speaker 1 (59m 38s): George already, it's not that we are the only people fighting this. I know New Zealand has been able to coattail it. Right. All the developed nations have been able to Cortel it except us except us. It's not that, Oh my God, we have no path. We have a path and they've done it before they did it. Why follow that path? What is this about? Is this about you forwarding your agenda and your narrative because you, because it's so ego-driven that you don't want to look like an idiot because you earlier on when the pandemic kid said that this was a fucking hoax and we all know it's not a fucking hoax because we want to serve your ego or are we going to get on a path of, you know, bringing the virus down, carteling it.
And getting the company back on track. What is this about?
Speaker 0 (1h 0m 31s): I think it's about money. I think that the multinational corporations don't want to lose market share. And if you look at like wall street, I having a Lord knows what kind of corruption is happening up there right now. Just the biggest transfer of wealth from working people to, to the top 1%. And I think that, you know, when they made the law, they said, okay, anybody that has less than 500 employees, you guys have to stop. But if you have more than 500, you can make whatever rules you want.
And it seems to me that, you know, the multinationals have this idea of people being the same as interchangeable parts, and that they're not willing to lose profit regardless of how many people die. And I think that's who runs the co I think that's, who runs, you know, I think, I think it was John Dewey who said that government is the shadow cast upon the people by business. And if you look at the businesses right now, like they're, they're having record years, you know, you look at Bezos like just,
Speaker 1 (1h 1m 36s): Yeah.
Speaker 0 (1h 1m 37s): And Amazon like, look at like, people are dying in that building. And you know, you got people like Kevin Hart going on rogue and talk about how much he loves Jeff Bezos.
Speaker 1 (1h 1m 47s): No, it's like, you don't say that. I hate
Speaker 0 (1h 1m 49s): That. And like, you know, for me as a person that delivers packages, like, I, I feel I got really down this week because I found my position self in a position where like, how can I ethically deliver a package to an elder care home when I know that there's, COVID in my building and why are we not telling the community about this? And I, you know, I like, I, I couldn't sleep, you know? And I, my wife's like, take it easy. Jordan's wrong with you? You know? So I went in and I started at the bottom and I started talking to the, the low level guys and I go, look, this is a, do you think this is ethical?
And you know, I started getting answers. Like my opinion doesn't matter. That made me furious. And so I took it as far as I could to the number one guy in Hawaii. And I said, listen, let me ask you something. How am I supposed to ethically go to these places? Like, why don't we do something productive? I mean, something proactive instead of reactive. Like we know we're not doing anything. And on top of that, why don't we tell the community, why don't we get out in front of this thing? And this guy said to me like, well, it's not just us. Like, he gave me this total non-answer that was so it just saddened me.
Like, dude, you're supposed to be the leader. You're supposed to be the guy that everybody looks up to and we come to you with a problem. Your answer is, well, I'll ask the guys in the boardroom, I guess. And it just
Speaker 1 (1h 3m 10s): Other leaders to respond.
Speaker 0 (1h 3m 12s): Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (1h 3m 13s): We'll have the same narrative. Right? So it all comes from the top, right? The same with our government right now, the same with any corporation, you know, you're right. You're right about the fact that we are definitely have become an oligarchy. I don't think there's any doubt about that. And I think it feels if a sub, if somebody tries to come and challenge me on that, I'm like, look at, look at who are your decision makers right now? They're all billionaires. It's straight up oligarchy. I mean, that, that is what's happening.
We have a reality TV show guy pulling himself to be a billionaire. And now he's the president of the United States. What are we looking at here? We are looking at an oligarchy. You think, you know, when, when one of the officials on the Trump administration comes out and says, we'll give you a $1,200 stimulus check, and that should hold you over for, for 10 weeks. Do you understand how detached that person is? You know how detached they are from reality of Americans. If you have look, I'm a single girl and I have, right.
If you are a family of two and you lost your job and you can't find job, and the unemployment is going to run out as well, how much is that? $1,200 on a hold you over? Right? How long do you think that's going to hold you? But 1200 bucks. It's nothing the minimum, you know, based on the family, you should be getting at least three grand a month just to hold you over. Control the virus, pay the money.
Look, if we have money for <inaudible> and we have money for helicopters, and we have money for highly militarized weapons that can friggin take out like a, a, a friggin, a hole, like a slew of a rhinoceros in one shell. Then we have enough money to feed Americans. We have enough money to take care of our, if we have senators and you know, and the, you know, government officials retiring on full salaries, all insurance paid on your dime.
And then there is enough fucking money to take care of Americans. Don't fucking come at me with this bullshit. You don't have money. You have money. Whenever it comes to military and policing and all that shit, you guys have money. We talk about patient and healthcare. There's no money. Stop it, stop it. I'm not stupid,
Speaker 0 (1h 5m 40s): Stupid. Right? You see that the 1200 bucks when they, when they say 1200 bucks should hold you through. What they're really saying is that we need to buy these people off for more time at the least amount of possible. I think that the stimulus, it's not trying to help people. It's trying to limit the amount of people in the streets and they want to do just enough, but not too much. Like they don't want people to be comfortable. They want, they want to pay people to buy more time is what's happening.
I think in, you know, what
Speaker 1 (1h 6m 13s): Used to be a time when the leader of the country is consist consistently going against the scientists he's consistently, right? You know, you wear a mask one day, the other way you say the mass, no work. This, you know, not really. I mean, you can, but you can't stop it. The moment Trump came out and said, put a masculine, do you know that his supporters 56% went on and started putting on a map? He has sole power, but he has, he does not feel responsible for it.
We are in deep.
Speaker 0 (1h 6m 49s): Yeah, we are. He doesn't care. He doesn't care about the American people. And I don't think anybody,
Speaker 1 (1h 6m 55s): I believe that George and it's scary. It's scary. Look at what's happened yesterday. You'll United States. Postal service is going out and removing mailboxes ever happened in the history of the United States. George, tell me, I can tell you a person who grew up under a dictatorship in Pakistan. This is how dictators come to exist.
Speaker 0 (1h 7m 19s): Yeah, it's coming. It's coming. I think that you're going to see it, regardless of what happens. I think you're going to see a contested election. And then that's when
Speaker 1 (1h 7m 27s): That'd be a massive fight, we all know that point of how corrupt is it going to be? How is it going to get violent? Is it going to be planted the seed for his supporter to come out and say, you know, if I don't, I journalist earlier on, Hey, if you don't, if you lose, what are you going to do? And then, you know, are you going to leave peacefully? And he goes, well, we'll see. He goes, let me tell you something. If I lost, there will be a civil war. What is he calling for?
Speaker 0 (1h 7m 55s): Yeah. It's, it's horrendous.
Speaker 1 (1h 7m 56s): You think this person cares about this country. He cares about you and me. You don't give a fuck.
Speaker 0 (1h 8m 1s): No, I don't think any politicians do. I think that, you know, you know what I was thinking yesterday? Like, why is it that way,
Speaker 1 (1h 8m 8s): George? I don't know about any politician. There is a man named Bernie Sanders. Yes. His ideas could be a little too go for some people. But everything that he's been talking about is not that far fetched. It's not
Speaker 0 (1h 8m 23s): Back down. Like he could have won like against Hillary. Like if he would have stood up, I think that people would have been
Speaker 1 (1h 8m 29s): Don't even get me started on the democratic party of Georgia. I am not, I am not a independent, I'm an immigrant. I that's how I registered. I will vote. I will make my own decision. I don't need to know what affiliation I need to have.
Speaker 0 (1h 8m 44s): I like Tulsi. I wish she would have. I wish she would have stayed. I really liked her
Speaker 1 (1h 8m 49s): A bit of a Manchurian candidate for me. She, she, yeah, she's got, yeah. I, I think I, for me, I never really know what TLC Gover believes in. She is very much about what do you like? She's that person it's like hungry, you know, let's go eat something. Oh, really? What you want to, Oh, forget about me. What do you want to do? You know, what's going to get her to the next level rather than saying, this is what I believe in. This is why, you know, on the, on the, I haven't been a fan of Tulsi, quite frankly, I want to, but I just can't get bad that, you know,
Speaker 0 (1h 9m 29s): What was this law that was there used to be a tax that said there can be no profits in a time of war. You know, there, there could be. And that, that would let, like you said, like there's plenty of money. Like we give so much money in foreign aid and we give so much money to all these companies that go and set the resource that a third world countries like people don't have clean water in Michigan. Like why can't we as Americans have the money that our tax money, you know, I, it drives me nuts. It just, it kills me.
Speaker 1 (1h 9m 59s): Listen, we have, we have money to go on a Philander around and to give for bullshit things, but we don't have a Flint. Michigan still has, you know, dirty water of Puerto Rico. Can't get their supplies. They can't, you know, they're being tossed, you know, paper towels by the president and you get a paper towel
Speaker 0 (1h 10m 23s): Stop.
Speaker 1 (1h 10m 25s): Yes. It's just, this, it's just overwhelming. What is, what is happening right now? But you know what? Maybe we needed that as Americans. We really need to think. So we really didn't. I think we got a little too comfortable. We got a little too comfortable listening to people who don't have the best intentions at heart for us. That's what happened. And yeah, we got lazy and, and now we are definitely paying for it. Not just with our money, we're paying for it without lives and election.
We are literally fighting for our lives. This election, we are fighting for our lives. George. I don't know how many people I have made that post yesterday on my Facebook page. And I was like, why are people not outraged? And thank God today in DC, right outside of, did you always, who was the guy who ordered for the removal of the postal mailboxes and stuff? There was a massive protest right outside his house. I'm like, yes, you go and tell him exactly how you feel as Americans.
You have to take my boat out of my dead claw, hands, yourself to be a legitimate winner. Like that's not going to happen. And I think that's a one thing that Americans are like historically have been. So look, we've, we've had a lecture as a world war II, you know, are gonna come down and says, we should delay the elections. No, go fuck yourself. We're not going to delay the elections. Okay. We can go to world war II and have elections.
We can very much go through a fucking virus pandemic, which was your job to come fix by the way only fucked up on. And now you're telling me that I have a little delay. And also you keep telling people that the schools need to be reopened and Gavaskar keeps going out and saying that the schools need to be reopened and kids need to go back to school. So let me understand this. The schools need to be open. I should go out and jeopardize the lives of my children, including myself and my family. But it's, the virus is too dangerous to go to the voting booth and to put my point in my vote, is that correct?
Is that you think we're fucking stupid? You think we're not processing this? Right. What do you think is happening over here? But, but just so you know, I have to head out in like two minutes. Okay. Alright. I have a class that I need to go do. Listen, I, I talk about this all day. Every day I do two hour live streams. I just, I I'm scared for all of us. I really am. I, I, I can tell you as somebody who came out of a dictatorship and made a life here, I, my knees are giving out on my lower back is hurting.
I don't have the energy to pick myself up and move to another country. It's just not happening. It's just not happening, George. I'm going to fight this and do everything in my power. I can, you know, to, to get the right leaders in office to just get our country back on track.
Speaker 0 (1h 13m 22s): Yeah. I love it. What are you so passionate? You're an amazing woman. And I'm so thankful that I got to talk to you. Like, I, I really enjoyed it and I, I, I love your story and I love your passion and I I'm so thankful that I got some time to meet you and talk to you. I just want to say, thank you very much for that.
Speaker 1 (1h 13m 39s): Oh my God. No, thank you. This was really lovely. I should bring it. You know, you need to come on my live stream. I would love to, I would love to talk about what life is like in Hawaii. I mean, what's the temperature, what's the, what's the weather like today? Can you see behind me? Like the sun's just kind of coming up. It's about seven 30.
Speaker 0 (1h 13m 59s): We about 84 degrees with about 84% humidity. And it's so green and, and yeah, it really is. It really is. I feel really lucky. It's a beautiful, I
Speaker 1 (1h 14m 12s): Love it. No, it looks beautiful. But Jewish, this was a lot of fun. I have to run off. I have a crazy busy day today, but thank you so much for having me on this was so much fun, right?
Speaker 0 (1h 14m 23s): I think I'm the lucky ones day. And I look forward to talking to you more about it. If you ever need anything, if I can ever do anything to you, please reach out. I'm probably going to email you from time to time. So be ready.
Speaker 1 (1h 14m 34s): Please do. I would, I would, I would love that. But if people, if your followers want to follow me, they can definitely subscribe to my YouTube channel, which is my name. Mona M O N shake S H a I K H comedian comedian. They can subscribe to my YouTube channel. Like I mentioned, Monday through Friday. I have my YouTube livestreams. I bring on, I have Congresswoman from California coming on. So I'm very excited about that. So just working on bringing, bringing on a lot of bigger guests, I'm very excited about that.
And you guys can also follow me on Twitter at Mona's comedy and Instagram and watershed comedian also on Facebook. And that's it for plugs for me. And you can also go to my website. I have a comedy album out. If you want to check it out, it's just my name, Mona shake.com. You can check my comedy album out and yeah, that's about it.
Speaker 0 (1h 15m 21s): And all the links will be on my page too. So I hope you have a great day, Mona. And thank you. Hold on.