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Kaisha: All right.

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It's Thursday at 4:20 PM Eastern.

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That means it's time for office hours, aROYA's weekly
session for cultivators to hear from the experts and talk

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to each other about what they're seeing in their grows.

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My name's Kaisha, and I'm here in Pullman,
Washington co-moderating with my good friend Mandy.

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Mandy, how you doing?

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Mandy: Kaisha, how's it going?

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Super excited to be here for episode 42.

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Yeah, I'm also here in Pullman, just in a different room.

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We got sound going on in a bunch of different rooms.

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We're also going live over on YouTube.

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So I'll be monitoring for your questions over there.

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Don't be afraid to go ahead and send those over.

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Make sure you're following us on Instagram and TikTok.

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I'm here to remind you.

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To but you guys know how we do it.

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Let's go ahead and get to those
crops during questions that we got

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Kaisha: this week.

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Back to you, Kaisha.

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Awesome.

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Thank you Mandy.

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Yeah, if you have any questions here, you're live
with us, be sure to drop 'em in the chat at any time.

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If your questions pick, we'll go ahead and ask for
you and then also drop your email address in the

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chat to be entered into a drawing for some swag.

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Jason.

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Hey, how are you?

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Great.

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It's so weird to be able to just like turn to you.

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I'm gonna have to consciously do that.

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Are you ready for our first question?

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Jason: Sure.

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Kaisha: I love this question cuz it's a really
good overview for us to start with at Pen Bugs

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wrote in, this is from Instagram, they wanna
know, does 25% runoff mean 25% of what's going in?

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Can you explain runoff properly for us, please?

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Jason: Yeah.

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So I guess.

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Where I wanna start is, you know, what is properly.

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I think right now in the industry, most
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of what's being fed as the irrigation.

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I personally would love to see us
do it as an overall water content.

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Change just because that's what
we look at when we are irrigating.

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You know, say, you know, we're gonna irrigate 5%
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track because we're not having to do an additional
multiplier to get what that runoff value is.

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So pretty much.

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Everything which you're reading of, and if it
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in relationship to the size of the feed.

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So do keep that in mind.

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I have always wanted to kind of just write up
a document and talk about why it would be nice

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if we can standardize this in the industry.

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Obviously some things have made great movement,
like looking at EC rather than PPM of.

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Nutrients.

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So, at some point we just all need to get together
as members that are using this information

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and say, This is why we wanna do it this way.

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Maybe we're used to doing it a different way, but what
helps us on a daily basis, make easier decisions, make that

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more transparent as far as how it relates to our plants.

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Kaisha: Yeah.

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Getting in some standards.

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So we can do our business and
get that profitability in there.

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So, yeah.

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Love that.

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All right, I'm gonna keep it moving.

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And Loci Turner wrote in on Instagram,
submitted two questions this week.

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Really good one.

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So I'll start with this first one here.

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Why don't you begin P one before the plant begins to
transpire, is it to do with root pressure and guttation?

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Jason: You know, we don't see guttation a lot
and I doubt we would see it in the morning.

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Specifically.

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The reason that we do start is just to allow the
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pulling as hard as it can when we do give it water.

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It works is one good reason.

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You know, if you do start a little bit
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any detrimental effects to the plants.

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But we may not be able to achieve quite as
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irrigate just after transpiration begins.

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So, some of the studies that I've seen with cannabis
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photosynthesis taken about 45 minutes to turn on or turn.

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So after lights come on, say, you know, where
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synthetic growth rate that it's getting and up to
say 45 minutes before cannabis is fully active.

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Kaisha: I have a silly question.

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Maybe , what is guttation?

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I've never heard of that term before

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Jason: Guttation is when it actually water comes out
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So rather than being transpired through the stomate it's
over pressured in the cell walls and actually exits.

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Kaisha: I love science just
through the, through this membrane.

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Amazing.

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Thank you.

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Learning something every episode.

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Excellent.

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Okay.

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Let me get into the second question that Loci sent us.

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When growing a strain for the first time,
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EC spikes in generative, vegetative and ripening.

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Jason: Well, obviously if we are running a
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to kind of be a little bit more abstract when
I'm understanding how the plant's growing.

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Think about, all right, what are the plants
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What is the physical output of the strain?

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So we've been able to see it grow to flower
from who we purchased it from per se.

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Then, you know, we might get some ideas on what
to expect and how to dial in those parameters.

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Obviously if it's also the first time it's
like, Hey, is this we're trying to evaluate?

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Is this the type of strain that we want to run?

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So you do wanna get.

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Kind of in the right path to being extremely productive.

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So talk to who you got the clone from and see
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of help you get started in the right path.

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As far as getting into the question specifically
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typically refer that phase to is phase three,
that FA phase as well, is what I meant to say.

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EC spikes, I probably wouldn't get too concerned,
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run it for most cultivars during, you know, a hard
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back outside of that two hour irrigation window per se.

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Then we'll see ECS in the 1215, maybe a little
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there is that our EC spikes don't last too long,
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we're not gonna miss a day's irrigation, right?

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That that EC spike doesn't happen for
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concern of those things getting too high up.

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Best things as you can do.

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First time you run a strain document, maybe even more than
you, you ever would with strands that you run lots of times.

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This is simply just to get you as.

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Familiarized with the day to day growth rates
when you need to start doing your flip planning.

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So, you know, when we come outta flower, I always like
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from generative back to vegetative bulking, then we wanna
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here's our choke points at when we're trying to control the
plant and optimize how much volume it's taken in our room.

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Kaisha: Documentation is data.

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Jason: Yeah.

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Yeah, my, my favorite way is obviously pictures.

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I can capture tons of information and yeah, it is
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directly in the system so that you can chart 'em.

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But you know, at the very least when you're
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your your trellis pole in the background.

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That way you can get at least some type of idea if you
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plant height or every other, every three day plant height.

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Kaisha: Awesome.

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Yes.

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Excellent.

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All right.

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We've gotten a write in Mandy, What
do we have going on over there?

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Mandy: Yeah.

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The questions are rolling in.

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So yeah, from Six Millimeter Beast they wrote in, what
does the little triangle next to the battery icon mean?

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I think that they're meaning in the app, in the AROYA app.

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Jason: I, let me look at it specifically
just so I can jog my memory.

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I think it's some type of yield
or warning sign, if you will.

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So, I'm guessing that's on the dashboard,
unless you're talking about the signal triangle.

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I guess I could share my screen here if that made things
easier, but maybe they just wanna send a screenshot into our

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support team and have that selected and we'll jump right on

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Kaisha: it.

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Yeah, excellent.

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Get us a screenshot so we can get you
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Mandy: Cool.

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Cool, cool.

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Great.

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Well, yeah, we'll do that.

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And back to you, Kaisha.

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Kaisha: Thank you, Mandy.

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All right.

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King Green Beast wrote in, why do the
majority of consumers say finished product

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comes out better in Coco versus Rockwool?

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Any thoughts on that?

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Jason: I mean, I know, I think we
dropped on this a little bit last week.

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Probably because some of the product that they're
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well as some of the coco's, more forgiving.

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And you know, we talk about this being, you
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of growing medias where it's gonna get you.

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Some pretty awesome performance, but
it's gotta be taken care of very well.

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You know, if you hit a curb on the way,
Rockwool's not gonna recover as easy.

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So some of my coco would be more
like what we consider a Jeep.

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It's going to not be nearly as picky.

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If we miss irrigation, it's gonna saturate better.

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If we.

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Don't keep it above that low water content.

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It does have some amount of cec, so if we make
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gonna buffer that out better than Rockwool.

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So, you know, my guess there would just simply be that.

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Possibly some of the product they're getting from walk.

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Rockwool growers, some of those
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Now that being said, from my personal
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difference from the Rockwool growers who are.

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Addressing, you know, performance concerns.

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So if they're able to keep a very tight ship as
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they're gonna produce a really high quality
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So, and typically you can produce actually a little
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really hard with a very well controlled system.

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So.

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Keep those things in mind.

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A lot of times we will talk to people when they're
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Those concerns.

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So, you know, take a look at your systems.

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Do you operate exactly as you expect to operate?

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And can we follow some of the crop
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Have we read the white papers from
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All those types of things.

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So, and then again, obviously,
you know, substrate ties is key.

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Make sure that you have the right amount of substrate
volume for the size of plants that you're trying to.

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Kaisha: Awesome.

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Thank you for that.

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Jason.

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Just a reminder to our folks who are live,
if you have any questions, now's your

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chance to get some answers from the expert.

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Just one today, all right, we're gonna keep it moving.

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We got great questions from Instagram this week.

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All right.

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Sergio Pja wrote in, I always see
people bragging about praying leaves.

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Is there such a thing as too much praying?

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Jason: In my opinion, no you don't.

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Usually what is going on with praying
is that the plants are pretty happy.

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You know, you've got ample tucker pressure in the cells, and
so rather than wilting, they are raw, nice and standing up.

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And actually in a lot of times at nighttime,
we'll see the plants relax if conditions.

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Really good.

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A lot of times they won't relax quite as much.

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Obviously we do want those plants not to always be
push and hard, but in, in a pretty decent environment.

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If they are happy, they'll be slightly
praying at night, if you will.

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And so, you know, for my opinion, too much
praying, no, your plan's just growing as

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fast as you can possibly get it to grow.

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Kaisha: I need to go my plants at
night and see if they're praying.

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I've never done that before.

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My two girls, I have only have two.

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Jason: Yeah.

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So there's some really fun stuff you can do.

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I used to use security cameras for doing time lapse videos
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And, you know, you can actually start to measure it and
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or, you know, drop dropping three inches at night.

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And we're actually working on some products
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If you got an.

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Android cell phone.

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You can throw an app on there and
use it as a time lapse camera.

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Super fun.

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Thanks.

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And, you know, you can look at a whole growth cycle.

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Shoot that down into a minute or two minutes, and
you get to see how fast your plants are growing

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on a day to day basis and kinda understand, all
right, here's the times that thing really got crazy.

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Or, Hey, I can tell when I got an effective generative
response from the plant because it stopped stretching.

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We can see it right in the video.

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So that's really fun things to do.

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Started reading up on diurnal behavior.

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That's diurnal.

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So basically day and night behaviors of plants, and
that'll give you an idea of what the industry knows

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about the effects of light, how the plant responds.

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Kaisha: This plant is endlessly fascinating.

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So good.

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I have an old Android Perfect for the job.

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Great.

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Oh, right.

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Keeping it moving.

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Kevin Green, Kevin's greens wrote in, If I'm adding
humidity to the room and I have hard water that I'm

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not filtrating, will that calcium have an effect?

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Jason: Yes, it will.

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So, gonna address kind of two ways in the question here,
because you're asking will it have an effect, I'm guessing

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you're talking about in relationship to the plants, right?

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That's gonna like, depend definitely
on the type of humidifier you have.

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If it's like an ultrasonic humidifier, it's probably
not actually gonna get much calcium into the air.

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So probably not a huge impact on the plants.

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What it will have an impact on is your
humidifiers themselves other types of humidifiers.

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If it's just like a misting agent yeah, you're definitely
gonna start to see a white powdery buildup on stuff.

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It can be hard on equipment, you know, we'll
see it on our sensors every once in a while.

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So our recommendation always is to use RO in humidifiers.

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If you can't, or excuse me, in humidifiers.

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If you have the opportunity to obviously if you don't,
then try to do the absolute best job maintaining,

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cleaning your equipment at least every cycle.

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. Kaisha: Okay.

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Wonderful.

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All right, moving on.

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We are just powering through
these questions, live attendees.

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We wanna hear from you.

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YouTube.

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What's up?

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How can we help you today?

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Let us know.

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All right.

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River City Grower, a good friend
over there wrote in a great question.

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When using a soft wood meter after harvest, what are the
water content parameters you shoot for in WC percent.

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Jason: Yeah.

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So this is this is a great question
and I like it for a number of reasons.

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One is, obviously using a soft wood moisture meter is better
than using nothing to document and test your equipment.

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We have a drying cannabis, the complete guide
document right there at aroya.io/resources.

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I think our team might try and throw the.

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The link in here.

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And it's gonna talk about Exactly, you know what?

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Moisture contents that you're trying to shoot for to
one, prevent mold, so be lower than a certain amount so

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that you don't have product lost from bacterial growth.

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And then the other side of that is obviously trying
to keep enough water content in there that we

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can maintain quality and weight on that product
not lose terpenes, other volatiles to the air.

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And so, For the specifics of that a lot of moisture, content
sensors, very likely, like the one you're using, are gonna

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have some type of accuracy on say, plus or minus 1%, right?

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So if we're shooting for a water content of 11%,
which is very realistic, right in the middle,

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trying to keep our quality up and make sure our
product's safe that means an accuracy would be.

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We would be between 10 and 12.

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Well, one of the tough things here when, why we
like to use water activity rather than moisture

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content would be because if we are at say,
10%, you know, the meter shows 11, but we're.

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Off by 1% accuracy.

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Your product's gonna be down there at say
.53 .55 water activity, and that's gonna

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be drier than you actually really need.

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Conversely, if we see 11 on that meter, it's off by
1% and we come out at 12, we could be up in that say,

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0.66 range, which adds actually above the 0.65 limit.

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So that's one of the struggles with some of
the lower grade moisture content sensors.

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You know, if you are using obviously loss on drying type
of moisture content, you can get a little bit more accurate

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than that, but now you're deteriorating the product.

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You have a longer sample cycle, all those types of things.

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So obviously our recommendation is if you can, you know,
get some access to Aqualab, it's a dew point sensor that is

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gonna give you an  a water activity rating to 0.03 accuracy.

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And so that means that, you know, you can nail that
moisture content at 11.16 to 11.28% to make sure

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that you're getting the best outta your product.

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So, Yeah, dug into the details pretty deep there.

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If you wanna check out even more with some good graphics
that explain it better than I can just verbally get get

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on that complete drying guide and read through the whole
thing and see how it can help you improve your product.

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Kaisha: Awesome, Jason.

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Yeah, thanks for reminding our
listeners, our attendees out there.

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We have a great resource hub on our website,
aroya.io/resources, our complete drying guide.

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I link to it in the chat here but
also head over to our resources page.

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We have so much going on over there, so much goodness.

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Okay, baby got drybacks just dropped in a question.

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They wanna know what's the hardest strain
to grow in your personal experience.

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Jason: Oh, well, it's been a while since
I was growing a lot of unique strains.

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We had a, let's see, was we, Our sunset
sherbert was actually kind of picky.

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Ironically, you know, some of those sherbert cuts
have been crossed and been extremely effective.

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So that, that was one that was a little bit smaller.

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And then I think I had a candy jack that was
definitely pickier than I could grow real well.

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Kaisha: So, are those sativa's?

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Jason: You know, I honestly couldn't tell you.

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Kaisha: I know they, they're all hybrids anyway, right?

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Everybody.

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I'm just curious.

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I was just wondering what the traits were
and I wonder what made them so challenging.

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Jason: I believe both of 'em were more indica
leaning cuz they were typically short and bushy.

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From my experience, I've found that the heavier sativa,
at least with the growing morphology that would indicate

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that it's more sativa, say stretcher, and longer.

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Typically those are a little bit less picky from
my experience, and that they'll just eat it up.

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So,

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Kaisha: Oh, these magical plants.

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Wonderful.

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Oh, all right.

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We got in another live question
here, just here for the memes 22.

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22 wrote in.

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They wanna know what are the main ways AROYA
helps increase the quality of my final product?

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I love that question.

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Jason: Yeah.

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So let's start at the very beginning and
talk about the ways that it helps people

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stay consistent with their growing cycles.

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Obviously by documenting your harvest groups,
you can take the ways that have produced

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a high quality product and replicate them.

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You've got enough data logged that you can understand.

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All right.

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When we fool with this variable a little bit,
maybe we get higher yield, but less quality.

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So, Not, but with that variable.

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So yeah, start, you know, starting in as early as clones,
you can start documenting some information in the system.

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And then when you get into veg, we always encourage people
to use water content sensors in their veg blocks as well.

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So say if you're in a four by four starter,
Rockwool cube, get some TAs twelves in there,

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start getting an understanding of how fast your
drybacks happen and how much faster they dry.

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They happen as the plant gets bigger through veg.

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I was working with a client the other day that cut
seven days off their veg time by using our system

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Kaisha: seven days.

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That's amazing.

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Jason: I mean, that's that adds up quick.

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If we're running five and a half or six cycles a year,
getting a whole week back means that we get another

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month and a half of of flowering out of those plants.

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So very cool to hear that they basically just optimized the
dry back rates of their plants to know when to irrigate.

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So that's that's definitely a huge factor.

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Obviously we've got the documentation
factor throughout veg as well.

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Keeping your environment.

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On tabs, having a system that's
monitoring if your environment is on tabs.

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So I think those are all playing into consistency,
which should be making sure that you are

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increasing the quality of your final product.

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You know, another ways.

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Listen to these shows, kind of take advantage of some
of the knowledge that we've spent a lot of years and

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a ton of time interacting with researchers, clients
to basically distill what has been successful.

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So, you know, make sure you're dropping on these.

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Take advantage of our knowledge.

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Yeah, through flower, do some crop steering.

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That's definitely gonna help your quality.

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You make sure you are getting a timely bud set and
optimizing you know, using osmotic potential and some

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differences day, night differentials, all those type of
things that we talk about to get the biggest expression

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out of the plant, both physically and chemically.

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So, probably could go on forever.

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About how much we can help you
achieve quality with the system.

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And obviously we're doing our best to keep implementing
features in the system that allow you to use it

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easier to document other features of how your plant's
growing and overall, if your job's easier and you

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get a little bit more time to spend with the plants
you're going to be able to read 'em as well physically.

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So, that's one of my favorite things about technological
advancements was I went from being able to be in

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the grow for, you know, maybe an hour or two a week.

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To being able to be in the grow an hour
or two a day at least taking pictures and

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trying to understand that the differences and
strains that we could continue optimizing 'em.

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So yeah, use, don't feel like it's slave to your technology.

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Use your technology to increase how much time you
actually have to spend hands on with the plants.

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Kaisha: Yeah.

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And at the end of the day, you know, we're, we always
talk about, we wanna make growers' lives easier, but you

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know, we're in a period where it's about profitability.

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You've got results that you have to account for, and
this kind of, this data, all this extra information,

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really just helps you be able to do your job
better and ultimately have better profitability.

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If you've got that consistency locked in, if you're
able to shorten your production times, all of that.

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That's better for your company,
better for your bottom line, right?

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Jason: Absolutely.

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Kaisha: Wonderful.

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All right.

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We just got a question in the chat here, and I'm gonna
say your name wrong, but gta, do you wanna unmute

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yourself and go ahead and ask it, or should I ask for you?

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All right.

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I'll go ahead and ask.

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Actually, they wanna know, they're looking
to set up a meeting with the AROYA team to

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figure out how we can take advantage of AROYA.

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So what's the process generally for anybody
who's interested in sitting a meeting with us?

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Jason: Yeah, so the best way to get at meeting as
quick as possible would be jump on aroya.Io and top

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right in the system there's gonna be a get started and.

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Type in your email, press get started and it's
gonna ask you to sign up for a meeting with

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our sales team and why this is easiest for us?

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Cause we can ask questions so that when we jump
on the meeting, we know, you know, what some

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of your goals are, what facility type you are,
all that information to help make sure that the

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face to face interaction on the video calls is.

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Effective as possible and make the most of your time
and our time, and get you guys an idea of how much it

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costs, what the set of processes are gonna be like once
you do purchase and what you can expect as an outcome

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after you've begin successfully using the system.

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Kaisha: Yeah.

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Weta so much really appreciate you asking that question.

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That's so good.

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Good to walk that folks through the process here.

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And thank you for joining us today.

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It's great to have no folks.

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Mandy, looks like we got a live question in there.

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Mandy: Yeah, we did.

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We got a question from Canadian grower.

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They wrote in, they wanna know which countries
do our sensors work in right now, and can we

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explain why they're not sold in some countries.

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Jason: Yeah, great question.

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So right now the radio chip that we're using, it's
has to be licensed by FCC here in the United States.

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And for some of the other countries, we
haven't necessarily gone through the licensing

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to Legally release it in other countries.

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We're definitely working on making some changes to
the radio and trying to get licensed cuz we'd love

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to start getting into Europe and some of the other
countries where people are struggling to get our

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equipment but really would like to take advantage of it.

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So our apologies, we are doing our best
to make it available across the world,

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Kaisha: Global.

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But the information office hours is global.

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You can access us from anywhere.

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All of our resources on AROYA dot io, you
can access us from anywhere and hit us

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up if you have any questions at any time.

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Because we can all learn from crop steering for sure.

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Wonderful.

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Okay.

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So Jason we're just kind of hanging tight.

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Hey, live attendees, this is your chance.

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If you have any questions for Jason,
you can ask him, answer 'em live.

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So drop that in the chat.

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And.

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Michael has a question.

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Michael, you wanna unmute?

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You want me to go ahead and ask for you?

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00:24:45,908 --> 00:24:48,818
I'm gonna go ahead and ask, Chime
in if you have anything else.

448
00:24:48,818 --> 00:24:49,148
Yep.

449
00:24:49,238 --> 00:24:49,868
Poor signal.

450
00:24:49,898 --> 00:24:50,468
We get that.

451
00:24:50,498 --> 00:24:50,888
Okay.

452
00:24:51,188 --> 00:24:58,098
Michael wants to know what DLA do you prefer for veg flower,
and how long do you take to transition to full intensity?

453
00:25:00,158 --> 00:25:01,238
Jason: Yeah, awesome question.

454
00:25:01,328 --> 00:25:03,458
Obviously, I always love talking about light.

455
00:25:03,488 --> 00:25:08,798
If you get me started on it, I usually go on a tangent
after talking about light for a while, because it's

456
00:25:08,798 --> 00:25:09,518
Kaisha: your world, Jason.

457
00:25:09,518 --> 00:25:10,298
We're just living in it.

458
00:25:10,298 --> 00:25:15,674
Jason: It's one of my favorite aspects and where
we're at with with cannabis and some of the LED

459
00:25:16,894 --> 00:25:18,814
technology that, that people are working on.

460
00:25:18,814 --> 00:25:20,982
And photo morphogenesis, all that stuff.

461
00:25:21,282 --> 00:25:23,993
Back to the question DLI do I prefer for veg and flower?

462
00:25:24,013 --> 00:25:26,323
How long to transition to full intensity?

463
00:25:26,323 --> 00:25:27,912
So, let's start with flower.

464
00:25:27,932 --> 00:25:29,715
Usually by the time that I'm.

465
00:25:30,305 --> 00:25:34,535
You know, even a week into flower,
I'd like to be at full intensity.

466
00:25:34,595 --> 00:25:38,285
So 45 is a really nice DLI to be at.

467
00:25:38,675 --> 00:25:43,205
Obviously, this can depend a little bit
on what your spectrum is coming from.

468
00:25:43,265 --> 00:25:49,429
Your lights are they, LED, are the hps just because that can
affect the rates of your plants, obviously for hitting the

469
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,149
chlorophyll receptors at chlorophyll A and chlorophyll B.

470
00:25:53,239 --> 00:25:59,873
Then the lights are gonna be a little better at getting
the plant to grow, even at the same DLI from a sensor.

471
00:25:59,905 --> 00:26:05,695
So yeah, it, you know, if you can get up into that
45 range, usually that's a start of high performance.

472
00:26:05,725 --> 00:26:09,745
And if you've got sufficient CO2 supplementation,
sometimes you go a little bit higher.

473
00:26:09,780 --> 00:26:13,920
Different strains, you're gonna accept those
higher parameters, slightly different as well.

474
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,477
So obviously making sure you're documenting
how they how they respond to that.

475
00:26:17,506 --> 00:26:20,986
For veg, I like w at a pretty high intensity.

476
00:26:21,016 --> 00:26:27,782
So, you know, maybe going from somewhere like
say, you know, 15 For DLI when you start with,

477
00:26:27,782 --> 00:26:33,738
and maybe up to say 30 maybe even more depending
on how big you, you veg those plants out.

478
00:26:34,008 --> 00:26:39,087
And probably, you know, the, one of the most
important things that I like to talk about which

479
00:26:39,087 --> 00:26:46,287
historically has been under controversy in that, is
when we go from our 18/6 light cycle to our 12/12.

480
00:26:46,992 --> 00:26:50,039
Some people are like, Oh, we're going
through transplant stress and you know, we

481
00:26:50,039 --> 00:26:52,529
need to baby these into light intensity.

482
00:26:52,769 --> 00:27:00,205
Well, when we break down the science of it, and
cannabis isn't actually a very picky plant it's

483
00:27:00,205 --> 00:27:02,605
gonna eat up a lot of light if we can get it to it.

484
00:27:02,845 --> 00:27:09,586
And so if we're under an 18/6 light cycle, we we
have 18 hours that it's accumulating energy, right?

485
00:27:09,586 --> 00:27:15,051
So our DLI is our intensity x  by our duration, right?

486
00:27:15,321 --> 00:27:21,921
So if we've got an intensity of say, 500
micromoles and we're at 18 hours, when we

487
00:27:21,921 --> 00:27:27,891
transition to a 12 hour timeframe, we're gonna
have a smaller DLI unless we up the intensity.

488
00:27:28,581 --> 00:27:35,181
What the plant is feeling is that it's actually lost some
of the amount of energy that it gets to continue growing.

489
00:27:35,471 --> 00:27:42,239
So rather than babying the lights when we transfer
from veg to flower and looking at the intensity

490
00:27:42,239 --> 00:27:43,919
and be like, Hey, we need to match the intensity.

491
00:27:43,949 --> 00:27:49,949
Well, we actually really need to match the DLI,
meaning that we need to up our intensity by about 33%.

492
00:27:50,009 --> 00:27:54,089
That's how many less hours that we're
getting when we switch from 18/6 to 12/12.

493
00:27:54,479 --> 00:27:58,979
So we need to make sure that we make that up in
the 12 hours that the plants are getting light.

494
00:27:59,369 --> 00:28:07,063
So, you know, if you're hitting them with 500 micromoles
at the end of veg in the 18/6 light cycle, then you need to

495
00:28:07,123 --> 00:28:11,379
up those to say what, 6 50, 700 at, you know, at least 33%.

496
00:28:11,384 --> 00:28:17,430
And so, I guess I didn't do that math perfectly in
my head, but yeah, make sure that you are getting the

497
00:28:17,435 --> 00:28:19,828
same DLI when you come out of veg and start flower.

498
00:28:19,848 --> 00:28:22,858
That's probably one of the things that
helps a lot of people that aren't doing it.

499
00:28:22,859 --> 00:28:25,955
You know, next time I'll chat with them, be
like, Hey, yeah, we're seeing explosive growth

500
00:28:25,955 --> 00:28:32,492
during that are root in and they can start their
generative stacking, steering a little bit earlier.

501
00:28:33,122 --> 00:28:34,952
They have happier plants so.

502
00:28:35,497 --> 00:28:38,915
Yeah, those are obviously really wide range rough numbers.

503
00:28:38,936 --> 00:28:44,819
I, what I would do is keep it up in the light
intensity until you find the edge of success.

504
00:28:44,819 --> 00:28:45,882
These plants love the light.

505
00:28:46,002 --> 00:28:53,668
So obviously if they've got roots, it's not super
likely that that you're gonna push 'em way too hard

506
00:28:53,758 --> 00:28:57,006
if you're within reason of light, light intensity.

507
00:28:57,046 --> 00:28:57,850
So, Yeah.

508
00:28:57,910 --> 00:29:04,540
You know, if in veg up it a little bit
every few times, see how they respond.

509
00:29:04,583 --> 00:29:09,200
You know, and flower, maybe if you've got some
some R and D rooms play with the spectrums and

510
00:29:09,710 --> 00:29:12,080
try and document what your lights specifically do.

511
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:17,268
If you're from a reputable manufacturer, they're
all gonna have a spectrum analysis available

512
00:29:17,268 --> 00:29:20,324
from the manufacturer on that light as well.

513
00:29:20,354 --> 00:29:21,374
So keep that in mind.

514
00:29:21,374 --> 00:29:26,624
You know, if you're using a few different manufacturers
in your facility, like I see a lot, don't necessarily

515
00:29:26,629 --> 00:29:29,384
assume that they're gonna affect the plant perfectly.

516
00:29:29,384 --> 00:29:31,365
The same with with that DLI.

517
00:29:31,755 --> 00:29:35,496
So, kind of just minute details,
but hope that answers your question.

518
00:29:36,046 --> 00:29:36,496
Kaisha: Yeah.

519
00:29:36,496 --> 00:29:37,636
Michael, great question.

520
00:29:37,636 --> 00:29:41,896
Thank you so much for asking, and if there's anything
else that you wanna know, please drop that in a chat.

521
00:29:42,286 --> 00:29:44,574
I have to say I Oh, here we go.

522
00:29:44,934 --> 00:29:45,894
What did he, Right here.

523
00:29:46,554 --> 00:29:47,124
Thank you.

524
00:29:47,124 --> 00:29:53,164
I like 34 veg and a transition to the 43 through
48 range when favorable conditions prevail.

525
00:29:53,170 --> 00:29:54,533
Gavita 1930s.

526
00:29:54,554 --> 00:29:56,954
Jason: Michael, you should be answering
the questions here instead of me.

527
00:29:58,979 --> 00:30:00,839
Kaisha: That's it all about that resource sharing.

528
00:30:00,839 --> 00:30:02,109
Thank you so much, Michael.

529
00:30:02,146 --> 00:30:04,166
Yeah, I was gonna say, you know, we're in Croptober.

530
00:30:04,186 --> 00:30:04,936
Very exciting.

531
00:30:04,936 --> 00:30:08,420
I'm not nearly as experienced with
cultivation as the rest of y'all.

532
00:30:08,420 --> 00:30:09,740
Like I said, I have two plants left.

533
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,440
Do you have any advice for me after I fly home?

534
00:30:12,740 --> 00:30:15,620
I'm really just trying to make sure
I know when it's time to harvest.

535
00:30:15,740 --> 00:30:17,600
Any advice for this?

536
00:30:18,085 --> 00:30:20,905
Little home growers doing it solo for the first time

537
00:30:20,970 --> 00:30:21,750
Jason: When to harvest?

538
00:30:21,810 --> 00:30:22,080
Yeah.

539
00:30:22,121 --> 00:30:27,879
Well if you're dependent on the seasons, then
before they freeze would be a good time to do it.

540
00:30:27,939 --> 00:30:28,195
Yeah.

541
00:30:28,195 --> 00:30:34,103
If you're not too worried about the plants dying like I
do in my garden about this time of year the strike homes.

542
00:30:34,398 --> 00:30:34,938
So, Okay.

543
00:30:35,058 --> 00:30:39,498
Usually your trichomes are gonna be one of the easiest
ways to tell if your plant is ready to harvest.

544
00:30:39,582 --> 00:30:45,305
You know, if you're doing something like a live live resin
or some fresh frozen type of output , probably not for you.

545
00:30:45,335 --> 00:30:45,965
No, not for me.

546
00:30:45,965 --> 00:30:50,185
For other people you know, just before they
search during cloudy or right as they're starting

547
00:30:50,185 --> 00:30:52,495
to turn cloudy, that's when you wanna harvest.

548
00:30:52,550 --> 00:30:54,422
If you are going to, to flower.

549
00:30:54,867 --> 00:30:57,147
That cloudiness is gonna begin to become amber.

550
00:30:57,517 --> 00:31:01,872
And you know, if you want sometimes little bit more flavor.

551
00:31:01,902 --> 00:31:05,682
You know, my favorite time is when we see
about, say, 50 to 60% of those trichomes.

552
00:31:05,687 --> 00:31:05,952
Nice.

553
00:31:05,952 --> 00:31:06,372
In amber.

554
00:31:06,412 --> 00:31:07,292
Ah, okay.

555
00:31:07,632 --> 00:31:10,092
I like the white, the real clean white product.

556
00:31:10,263 --> 00:31:13,863
I think there are some people out there that
are, can prefer after the strike homes get

557
00:31:13,863 --> 00:31:15,963
a little bit more amber than that as well.

558
00:31:15,963 --> 00:31:17,805
Starts to see a little bit of red in there.

559
00:31:17,805 --> 00:31:19,522
You probably missed the ideal harvest time.

560
00:31:19,582 --> 00:31:20,782
Kaisha: Okay, then I've gone too far.

561
00:31:20,782 --> 00:31:21,172
Okay.

562
00:31:21,472 --> 00:31:22,492
I think I'm on track.

563
00:31:22,492 --> 00:31:23,332
Thank you for that.

564
00:31:23,332 --> 00:31:24,802
I do have an AROYA jewelers loop.

565
00:31:24,802 --> 00:31:27,952
I will be magnifying and looking at those trichomes.

566
00:31:27,982 --> 00:31:29,242
I'm very excited about that.

567
00:31:29,242 --> 00:31:31,762
But yeah, this is my first time doing it solo.

568
00:31:32,132 --> 00:31:33,481
And they look beautiful.

569
00:31:33,691 --> 00:31:37,992
Jason: And one of the things that I used
to do I had a digital camera for our

570
00:31:37,992 --> 00:31:40,079
microscope at the cultivation facility.

571
00:31:40,135 --> 00:31:44,594
And I would take a picture and log
the age for that cultivar as well.

572
00:31:44,663 --> 00:31:49,918
So when I started to see that trichome change colors,
ideally would capture it before it even became cloudy,

573
00:31:50,158 --> 00:31:55,498
and then take a snapshot every day and we could
say, Hey, you know, after we see some cloudiness

574
00:31:55,498 --> 00:31:57,621
in that, let's expect to be down in three days.

575
00:31:57,686 --> 00:32:01,641
And then obviously if you do a really good
job, then you know that exact timeline from.

576
00:32:02,166 --> 00:32:04,746
When you begin to plant, and that
kind of comes into consistency.

577
00:32:04,746 --> 00:32:09,606
Hey, if we can just control all of these other
variables, our production planning becomes so much

578
00:32:09,606 --> 00:32:15,860
easier because we're not having to shuffle some of our
organization around, and we can make sure we've got our

579
00:32:15,860 --> 00:32:21,680
staff prepped our equipment, you know, supplies needed
to take care of that product at the right timeline.

580
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:28,124
So, obviously if you're in a greenhouse, it takes some
amount of years to get that all documented because

581
00:32:28,124 --> 00:32:33,024
of our cycle, spring to summer, to fall to winter.

582
00:32:33,044 --> 00:32:36,404
Sometimes those are gonna have unintended
effects that you can't control.

583
00:32:36,464 --> 00:32:41,555
You know, talking about natural sunlight suggesting
our spectrum even if we ha do have supplementation.

584
00:32:41,975 --> 00:32:45,596
So, yeah indoors gonna make it a little bit more repeatable.

585
00:32:45,635 --> 00:32:46,805
But I always enjoy.

586
00:32:47,495 --> 00:32:48,725
Challenge of greenhouses too.

587
00:32:48,985 --> 00:32:49,405
Kaisha: I love that.

588
00:32:49,405 --> 00:32:50,765
Considerations for Croptober.

589
00:32:50,995 --> 00:32:51,745
lucky for me.

590
00:32:51,745 --> 00:32:55,242
I am my only customer, but for the
rest of you that's really great.

591
00:32:55,292 --> 00:32:57,203
Run down on just this time of year.

592
00:32:57,208 --> 00:33:00,473
It's just so exciting for me anyway.

593
00:33:01,613 --> 00:33:02,123
All right.

594
00:33:02,123 --> 00:33:04,692
Well I think that closes out the session today.

595
00:33:04,692 --> 00:33:07,879
We don't have any more live questions
in, so you guys are all covered.

596
00:33:08,059 --> 00:33:09,409
We appreciate y'all for joining.

597
00:33:09,839 --> 00:33:11,939
Any final words before we sign off, Jason?

598
00:33:13,309 --> 00:33:18,320
Jason: No good luck getting all the product down
for you outdoor growers and probably indoor growers,

599
00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:21,590
keep listening in, keep asking us questions.

600
00:33:21,668 --> 00:33:24,518
Y'all, our audience is the ones that makes this show work.

601
00:33:24,518 --> 00:33:25,058
So that's it.

602
00:33:25,298 --> 00:33:26,726
Keep keep participating if you can.

603
00:33:27,236 --> 00:33:27,836
Kaisha: That's it.

604
00:33:27,866 --> 00:33:31,886
Thank you Jason, for yet another
great conversation to my co moderator.

605
00:33:31,886 --> 00:33:33,686
Mandy, thank you so much for that.

606
00:33:33,896 --> 00:33:36,656
Thank you all for joining us for
this week's AROYA Office Hours.

607
00:33:36,656 --> 00:33:41,126
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608
00:33:41,426 --> 00:33:43,616
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609
00:33:43,616 --> 00:33:48,176
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610
00:33:48,386 --> 00:33:52,738
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611
00:33:52,738 --> 00:33:56,498
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612
00:33:56,518 --> 00:33:58,408
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613
00:33:58,408 --> 00:33:59,548
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614
00:33:59,553 --> 00:34:01,108
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615
00:34:01,135 --> 00:34:01,990
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616
00:34:01,990 --> 00:34:05,500
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617
00:34:05,740 --> 00:34:08,290
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618
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619
00:34:10,690 --> 00:34:14,020
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620
00:34:14,025 --> 00:34:16,210
Thank you so much Jason, and thanks everybody.

621
00:34:16,210 --> 00:34:17,320
We'll see you next week.

622
00:34:17,950 --> 00:34:18,100
See

623
00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:18,490
Jason: y'all.

624
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:19,260
Bye.