Heath Fletcher (00:13)
Hey there again, welcome to the Healthy Enterprise podcast. I hope you're having a great day and thank you for joining me. If you've been here before, thanks for coming back. And if it's your first time, welcome. I hope you enjoy this episode. ⁓ I'm going to be speaking with Dr. Psyche Young. She's a licensed professional counselor, trauma informed therapist, and organizational consultant with over 20 years experience helping individuals, leaders, and teams navigate mental health, resilience, and change.

As a founder of YaH vision Consulting and Wellness, Dr. Young bridges clinical insight with organizational strategy, supporting clients in areas ranging from trauma recovery and emotional wellness to leadership development. She's worked across sectors from private practice to public institutions and corporate leadership, always bringing a grounded, compassionate and research-backed approach to healing and growth. Please welcome Dr. Psyche Young.

Hi, hi, Dr. Young. Thank you for joining me today on this episode. I'm looking forward to hearing your story and as our listeners, so why don't we ⁓ start with, you know, doing a little introduction of yourself.

Dr. Psyche Young (01:27)
Well, thank you for having me, Mr. Fletcher. My name is Dr. Psyche Young. I'm a licensed professional counselor in the state of PA, and my doctorate is in marriage and family therapy. So I provide a wide range of mental health services around the Philadelphia area and greater PA areas. ⁓

Heath Fletcher (01:46)
Excellent. And please call me Heath.

I'm not that formal. so and the name of your your business is what again?

Dr. Psyche Young (01:59)
Yes,

YaH vision Counseling and Wellness, LLC. And I have an office space there in Rittenhouse Square in Philadelphia. And I've been in business for about, I want to say a year and a half now in terms of private practice, but I've been in the field of the mental health field for about 11 years. So quite a long time.

Heath Fletcher (02:19)
And what drew you to that area of health?

Dr. Psyche Young (02:24)
So I believe it started when I was a child. My mom was a social worker and she would share certain stories with us. And I think that piqued my interest, but it wasn't until I did undergrad years later, I did two courses, Intro to Psych 1 and Intro to Psych 2, and I just fell in love with it. Human behavior, I was fascinated. I was like, yep, this is Took me a while.

Heath Fletcher (02:44)
This is it.

And we talked about your name because your name is Psyche and you told me that you often get asked if that's your real name, but and it was.

Dr. Psyche Young (02:58)
Yes, it is on my birth certificate, promise. ⁓ It's actually from the Greek story of Psyche and Cupid and Eros and Venus, that Greek mythology story, but it really means the soul or the mind. And so I embrace it even more now based on what I do as a psychotherapist. So, yes.

Heath Fletcher (03:18)
And so your mom had a vision. Maybe.

Dr. Psyche Young (03:21)
She must have. She

must have. She must have. It all came together nicely.

Heath Fletcher (03:27)
And so what aspects, so what do you specialize in? There's a lot of areas in under mental health umbrella. So what areas do you particularly?

Dr. Psyche Young (03:36)
So

it started off being some of everything, your basic depression, anxiety, mood disorders, things like that. But my marriage and family therapy, that is a specialized service that I provide for everyone dealing with family issues, systemic issues. ⁓ I do have specialized training with military families, but I tend to see everyone once it's a family-based issue. Yes, that's one of the specialties.

couples and families, or if you're an individual, if you have a family related issue, I still do that as well.

Heath Fletcher (04:09)
And prior to that you did a lot of work in clinical care as well.

Dr. Psyche Young (04:15)
Yes, I did. actually did. I started off as I think like case manager type work and going into being like a care coordinator type work and then branching off into really full time therapy. Community based therapy and now private practice.

Heath Fletcher (04:32)
Mm hmm. So you're you have as a as a practitioner as a counselor, it's your own business as well. So not only you not only are you being an expert ⁓ in your field, but you also have to be somewhat an expert in running a business too, right?

Dr. Psyche Young (04:50)
Interesting word, expert.

Heath Fletcher (04:52)
There's

a nice balancing act there somewhere. How do you accomplish that? How do you work both sides of the business?

Dr. Psyche Young (05:03)
And you said something interesting there, that word balance, because that's exactly how I look at it. I have to have a work life balance. I'm a mom, I'm a wife, I treat clients, and I have this business to run on the business end. So you have to really understand your vision, your goals, and make sure that you're balanced, because one area, if you're not balanced and you're not feeling streamlined, one area can suffer, and we can't afford for any of that to suffer. So I really look at...

Well, what are my values here? You know, what are my values? I really start with definitely family first and then my business is secondary to that. But I don't want to have to shortchange any area. Right. So the balance is key. The balance is key. So definitely managing my time as much as I can, delegating where I can, you know, looking at the resources I might need as an entrepreneur, you know, being on top of all the trends and all the things that are going on so I'm not lost by the wayside.

Heath Fletcher (06:02)
Is that is that some of the training or teaching you you provide your your clients?

Dr. Psyche Young (06:10)
Actually, yes, that's a big area for some clients who are dealing with stress, stress management, or they're just not feeling fulfilled and they can't find purpose and they're just kind of not feeling peaceful. That work-life balance comes up a lot actually, it really does. Yeah.

Heath Fletcher (06:28)
And then you mentioned stress. Stress is a very good, is it an indicator? Is it a byproduct? Is it an outcome of something else?

Dr. Psyche Young (06:42)
I look at it as a strong indicator that you're stressed and depending on where you understand the root cause of that stress, we can look at, well, what's happening in your life? Do you have enough of a balance? Are you dissatisfied? Are you not fulfilled? Often it does come up that there is not enough of a work-life balance and they're stretched in so many different areas. We want to help them to peel it, kind of peel everything down and kind of rebuild it in a more balanced way. So.

That does come up a whole lot, I have to say.

Heath Fletcher (07:13)
Yeah, particularly ⁓ in well, when I speak to people who are working in corporate America, you know, the stress factor tends to be a lot, you know, that there's a lot of there's a lot of stress in a lot of jobs. and, you know, someone had mentioned if if if you don't have if there's if there's issues at home, ⁓ the it'll be it'll come out in your work.

And vice versa, right?

Dr. Psyche Young (07:44)
Now, sometimes that's true, but you'll find that people have learned to sometimes have that temporary masking that they do to function. And as a mental health therapist, I always look at, how is a person functioning? And we do look at a person's functioning across settings, right? So you do look at functioning at home, functioning at work. Sometimes you see how they can overlap, but sometimes people are really great at...

functioning and performing well at work, but things are really crumbling inside and really crumbling at home. So we often can, you we find a way to kind of probe and get the person to really be transparent about that because it's really tantamount to, it's paramount rather to the kind of treatment we can do, you know, as authentic as you present to me as a therapist, as transparent as you are, I can then position myself in terms of support for you. Yeah, absolutely.

Heath Fletcher (08:41)
Is it difficult for people to be transparent to actually, I mean, it is sort of a stigma that if we can't cope with all the stuff in our lives, that it's some sort of weakness or that we failed or that and so it's difficult to come to terms with that and sometimes admit, my God, I cannot handle everything I got going on in my life.

Dr. Psyche Young (09:02)
Yeah. And you know, I like to dispel that myth and I look at different things. So we're looking at core values here. Sometimes that idea of a strength, a weakness, a deficit is based on, what are your core values? ⁓ Do you only value striving for success in terms of professional gains or do you see success as a whole, that totality, that whole person? And I'm very holistic in my approach. So I often ask about

the different areas of a person's life and encourage them to share it with me and be honest about that. And let's look at your value systems here. Do we need to have a mindset shift, a shift in how you're doing things, approaching things, and being honest about that area of vulnerability being a sign of strength, it's not a weakness at all because the more vulnerable you can be, the more self-aware.

you're opening up yourself for more self-awareness, and then you can get to the place where you really want to be. You can understand what your deficits might be, and then you can have growth coming from that. So it's a whole process. It's a whole process. So when I find someone being very hesitant and not as forthcoming, there are certain skills and techniques. We do some probing, some open-ended questions, getting them to just talk. And there's so much that goes into how we assess.

⁓ that sometimes I usually get what I need from them to be able to start the supportive avenue. Yeah.

Heath Fletcher (10:30)
So I'm glad you brought up core values because you know, core values is something that, you know, it comes in when you're having ⁓ executive coaching, for example, or any kind of business development. You know, they talk about what are your core values of your business? But, you know, we also as individuals have core values too. you know, tell me more about that. How do you help people define what their core values are? Right.

Dr. Psyche Young (10:57)
So I often ask people to think about what they believe their purpose is. So I am very kind of purpose driven, you know, and I ask people that and if they don't know that tells me that they might be thinking of work as a survival thing they have to do income. I have a family, I have to sustain myself. But are you fulfilled about what you're doing? Are you fulfilled with it? Is it a passion area for you? Or are you just, you know, that living to work and working to live kind of?

situation. Yeah. So I think the values kind of come through when we have that conversation. And if they don't have core values they're operating with, I try to get them to look at it because it might help them to make better decisions about where they're going and how they care for the self. Right. So I have had a client who talked about really valuing being taught to value the dollar and measure success by how much they were making. And if they were making any less.

they felt like a failure and we had to do some work on that one. Yeah. ⁓

Heath Fletcher (12:02)
That's probably a very common one too, is that why do we do anything? Why do you get up in the morning? Well, I got to get up, I got to go to work, I got to make money, I got to pay my bills, I got to support my family, which ⁓ is a very common purpose-driven life as far as wanting to support your family because there can be confusion between, only out to make money, but I am actually my purpose or my

of my drive is to to protect and support my family. But that's kind of a it doesn't have a lot of room for passion if that's if that's the drive right sometimes you gotta find the passion in there somewhere too.

Dr. Psyche Young (12:44)
Right. And then you have a kind of the opposite where someone is so passionate about something, if they're not able to do it as a lifestyle practice or habit, they're totally ⁓ just really distraught if they're not able to do it in some way, shape or form. And of course, when it comes to being able to sustain a family and a home and, know, if you have a mortgage or have to pay rent, I know it does become about the practical side. Here are some practical things I have to do to sustain myself.

but really my passions lie here. So we look at, what can be a good marriage between those two, three things? And sometimes it's easier said than done, right? Cause we're not just gonna survive and thrive on pipe dreams. We wanna incorporate the practical elements and look at, what are my resources? Do I have access to fulfilling this? Is it something that I can find the time for and make it more of a lifestyle shift, right? Yeah.

Heath Fletcher (13:42)
Yeah, that makes sense. I mental health, ⁓ you know, has become something that we talk about a lot more openly now, particularly since COVID. It kind of blew the door open on on what goes on behind the doors. ⁓ You know, we just sort of revealed a lot and, you know, it's it's easier to talk about people feel a little bit more comfortable about revealing and feeling vulnerable. ⁓

So how does mental health, what role does it play in the larger picture of healthcare in general?

Dr. Psyche Young (14:18)
Yes, so mental health is just one aspect of a person's life, right? So I love that we are branching into that integrative care model. So there's an integrative care model where they're incorporating the mental health piece with your physical health and the social health. So the social determinants of health, right? Making sure that we understand that if a person doesn't have adequate resources, that can be a source of stress, anxiety, depression.

which can then affect them physically. So it's all interrelated. And so with that integrative care approach, you'll find more hospital settings and more clinic settings incorporating the mental health piece and the social health piece, the social determinants of health. And we're all gonna be kind of like professionals under that one umbrella, providing that care, the integrative care for the person. You'll find that more often now than we had it 10 years ago.

So that's an amazing ⁓ journey that it's taken. It's kind of transformed into an integrative care model, which I'm really impressed by. And I used to work at a hospital setting where I was part of a multidisciplinary team and as the mental health professional, but there were doctors there, other specialists, there were care coordinators, social workers, and I just thought it was beautiful.

Heath Fletcher (15:39)
Well, I mean that if if if all your different, you know, doctors aren't speaking to each other, I mean, is that a common question now? Like when someone has a, you know, if they go see their primary care doctor or family doctor, whatever, and they have a health issue, you know, are are the questions being asked like, what happened at home when just before this event happened or this this this condition came up like

Are they starting to make the connection between those different aspects of our health at that stage?

Dr. Psyche Young (16:15)
Yes, they're

doing so more now and I think we still have a way to go, but you're finding that I know that there's certain screenings that now happen and they will get into what's happening at home. know, did something happen? Was there an event? Was there a change? Is there a family life issue or lack of resources issue? You know, because if someone can't effectively pay bills and sustain themselves, clearly that can lead to some more mental, physical health issues in the long run. So it's...

Yeah, they're starting to screen more for those things and ask them right up, you know, when they triage and so on. Yeah, they are asking them more. But we still have a ways to go. I find that, you know, it depends on, ⁓ you know, the clinic, the hospital, you know, the, I guess the administration, the way they run things. It depends. Yeah.

Heath Fletcher (17:02)
What other kind of cross modalities do you work with in other areas of ⁓ mental health? What other areas do you work with?

Dr. Psyche Young (17:12)
So because I'm very much into that mind-body-spirit connection, it's really something I believe in. I'm working more and more with other medical professionals, maybe even fitness professionals, clergy members, ministry leaders, just because it's all what makes us human, right? That mind-body-spirit connection, I don't feel like we can effectively take one over the other.

So because of my philosophy there, I tend to go into all those spaces and I think it's very relevant to how I present as a provider.

Heath Fletcher (17:46)
Well, I mean, and probably until you actually find out where those people, where they are with all those things. I mean, everyone's got a very, everyone's got different spiritual beliefs, everyone's got different, ⁓ different ways that they look after themselves. So until you actually find out those have to be considered, I would imagine.

Dr. Psyche Young (18:05)
Yes, that's exactly right. And sometimes it just takes that conversation, finding out if it matters. I have clients who come in, you know, who don't want to deal with the spiritual piece at all, because it's not they've not seeing it as relevant. And that's fine. ⁓ I'm not going to project my philosophy onto my client. Certainly, ⁓ clients come in and they learn about, know, that holistic approach, they it's sort of like the aha moment. yes. You I hadn't thought about how.

you know, my management of my physical health is affecting my mental health or how my lack of like, want to go to church, but I haven't been because here's some of the reasons and how that's affecting me, you know? And so we often kind of get to discuss it initially during like an intake, but if it's not something they want to incorporate into treatment goals or treatment, that's fine too. Yeah.

Heath Fletcher (18:54)
Yeah, I guess you got to respect that. that maybe not, and maybe not then, maybe later after they, you know, the trust gets built and that must take some time too is to actually build that rapport and build that trusting relationship. that, that, how long are these relationships with your clients? Like how, what's a, what's a typical, you know, progression of progress, how long does that take?

Dr. Psyche Young (19:22)
You know, I might not see it as a typical period of time, but when you're looking at that initial rapport building, that first two sessions really, you really kind of start to have a sense of what that will look like, right? You want to give it some time, but after that first two sessions, you'll know.

Is this client going to kind of keep coming for a little bit? Are they going to stick with you and work with you? Do they think you're a good match for them? And it really is the kind of ⁓ match that they think they have. It's really a partnership. It's an alliance, if you will. So that rapport building, want it to, you you want to take time with it, but you don't want it to, you don't want to kind of sabotage their ability to maybe work with someone else who's more of a closer match. So you'll kind of get a sense of that the first two.

two to three sessions, you'll kind of really know if this is enough of a match and alliance that we can build here. And I think we go from there, but it's important. The relationship is super, super key and vital to the therapeutic process. That relationship, really is. If you don't have that enough of that, it's going to be very superficial and we don't want superficial ⁓ interactions at all.

Heath Fletcher (20:37)
No, because you need them to be vulnerable too, right? Absolutely. They won't be able to reveal that if they don't feel like they're in a safe place or a safe person. ⁓

Dr. Psyche Young (20:40)
So.

And that emotional

safety, you know, that needs to be established really in that intake session, right? Making them feel like this is a non-judgmental space for you to be expressive, for you to get to a place of vulnerability and that you won't be judged for that. Whatever your belief systems are, you're not coming in to kind of match what a prescribed way that I have to treat you. No, you're telling me what you need and I will tailor that treatment based on what you need.

Yeah, if I can. Now, if I feel like it's a specialty area that someone needs, certainly I would have to refer out because I would be doing them as a service to try to work with them outside of my scope of specialty.

Heath Fletcher (21:29)
Right. Was there, what was it about that scope that drew you? What was it about, you know, is there something about your experience, life experiences, or, you know, what was it that kind of attracted you to that area?

Dr. Psyche Young (21:45)
Mm hmm. Well, so I often think of that ripple effect. So an individual who was well, you know, will hopefully build a healthy relationship, which will then lead to a healthy family, healthy community, healthy society, that ripple effect. So I kind of I was working mostly with individuals at first. And then I said, you know what? I really enjoy couples work. I really want to do that systemic work, a systemic in my thinking. So if.

If you're thinking of the family as a unit, as a well-oiled machine, a well-run unit, when one area is not working well, it affects the whole unit. And so that's part of that systemic thinking. And I really valued that. And I said, well, for me to make the most impact, yes, I'm working with some individuals on the individual level, but how do they see themselves systemically, right? In the community, in their family, like what do they feel?

they bring to that wider existence, if you will.

Heath Fletcher (22:46)
Yeah. And is this kind of care more accessible now than it used to be? are people able to use their insurance plans to access this kind of treatment as well now? It wasn't always that way, but is it becoming more available?

Dr. Psyche Young (23:05)
It is, it really is. And I think it depends on just your insurance specifiers and that particular insurance company. But I see very many couples and families now under insurance. The problem is that, you know, I won't get into the pay disparities that insurance companies, we won't get into that. But I think, think because as therapists, we have to sustain ourselves when, and we're doing really hard work when it comes to couples and families. So sometimes

Heath Fletcher (23:24)
I'll do that.

Dr. Psyche Young (23:33)
provider might choose not to see the family under the insurance and they may choose to do it only in private pay because that's, know, the pay disparity is so vastly different. Yeah. Yeah. And then the work that you're doing doesn't match up with what the insurance companies are, you know, paying out. That's a whole other podcast. Heath.

Heath Fletcher (23:53)
Yes, that's another can of worms for sure. Are you able to ⁓ leverage some of the technology that's available now that healthcare has, know, telemedicine or any kind of that kind of technology?

Dr. Psyche Young (24:10)
I actually do offer both. So I offer telehealth and in-person services. I find that that's what, in terms of that needs assessment that I do sometimes, that's what my population, they want. They want both. They want to have the convenience of both. And so certainly with even AI, there's a huge discussion going on now with how innovative and creative and convenient AI platforms and powered programs and apps can be.

Heath Fletcher (24:23)
Right.

Dr. Psyche Young (24:38)
But we also want to look at how nuanced that human element is, right? So the ability to still show up as a really empathetic, compassionate person, AI can't do that. So I love the advancements that technology has afforded me in my practice, but there's certain elements of it that I'm kind of being very selective on, even as AI grows and we have different options. I'm very, very selective with how I use it because there's some ethical considerations that we have to.

factor into this using AI. So that's kind of how it's going with AI. We try to follow the trends and we try to follow it all, but you have to be extremely selective based on your own principles and values and standards of care. Yeah.

Heath Fletcher (25:08)
Absolutely. Yeah.

yeah, I mean just the collection of data on its own is, and where that's going and the privacy and the... It's really important. I mean, there's a lot of areas where you don't really have to consider that because you're not really dealing with sensitive information or personal information. But in this case, you're dealing with very private information, right? Yes. you have that responsibility with your clients to retain that.

Dr. Psyche Young (25:52)
Right. And you have to still be really careful about the privacy issue. let's say you're using an AI platform or a powered system for your assessments. part of your assessment, it's convenient. It can help you get all the data and all of that. But part of your assessment is still being present with that person and the way they affect. You're looking at body language. You're looking at hygiene issues. There's so much

involved with assessing a person. AI can't do that. It's just,

Heath Fletcher (26:27)
Do you find that being able to do a video call with somebody that you get a little more insight than when they come to your office? mean, because if a person's got to go out, they got to get dressed, look good. Do you feel like you get a little more insight when you're taking ⁓ your window into their home, into their personal environment?

Dr. Psyche Young (26:50)
Sometimes you do, it's funny how that works because the presentation in person is just that, you have nothing else to go by. You have their presentation, the way they speak, the tone of their voice, the way they put themselves together, all of that. But when they're sitting ⁓ in front of you, and sometimes some of my clients are not sitting, I've had clients who, they're so busy trying to talk with me.

No, I've had this. I've had them and they cannot sit still while talking to me. So I'm seeing the chaos moving from they'll move me on their device from room to room. And I'm seeing getting these glimpses into the chaos that that's really impeding their functioning. And yeah, you're right. Yes. So much is is revealed sometimes when they're in their space because they're comfortable. Yeah, they're super comfortable.

and they take me into their spaces. They'll even show me sometimes what's going on. And I get to learn so much more than if they were well put together sitting in front of me.

Heath Fletcher (27:50)
Yeah,

because it's a presentation. gotta go. I gotta go visit my my counselor and you put yourself together and I don't know if if I mean, for those who've never actually been been for therapy, it's like you do kind of prepare your you do kind of kind of want to present yourself a little better than maybe you even though you know you want some help, you're not really there to kind of reveal it all on the on day one or anything.

Dr. Psyche Young (28:15)
But I encourage the transparency. I kind of drew the line at someone who was just getting out of the shower and still in their towel. I'm like, no, take me off camera. I'll wait. Get dressed. Please get dressed. I'll hold on for five minutes until you get yourself together. They were perfectly fine kind of in their towel. I'm like, we're not doing that.

Heath Fletcher (28:28)
Hahaha

Yeah, you got to set some boundaries. That's funny. ⁓ What you've got, you've got a you've done a variety of different projects in your career. Tell me about some of the other projects that you've done. I know they're related to your work, but you've worked on a few interesting product ⁓ projects, creative projects.

Dr. Psyche Young (28:43)
respond respond

Well, yeah, so I'm currently doing more of this podcasting, know, presenting myself as a speaker. am a speaker. So panelists, you know, I'm a panelist, panel discussions. I'm going to be launching my own podcast later in the fall. So definitely things like the speaking engagements where my reach, I can reach a wider audience in terms of the mental health field and what I'm doing by presenting myself as a speaker.

not just the one-on-one sitting with a client and providing that immediate therapy, therapeutic support, but the spaces that I'm going into ⁓ are more impactful on that community level. So being able to go and speak at a church, being able to be on a multidisciplinary team at the hospital setting and have them glean from what I know my background. So entering certain spaces and that networking, I always value, you can never have too much networking, Heath.

Okay. No, you can, you can never have too much networking. I don't even think that's a thing. So I'm of the mindset I'm going to network and, and, and it's usually very relevant in terms of what I do, right? Everyone can benefit from mental health. Everyone can benefit from that holistic model of care, that integrative model of care. So there we go.

Heath Fletcher (30:25)
Is that what you speak about? when you're invited to speak at an event or something like that, how do you choose a subject or do you have a of a standard presentation that you do?

Dr. Psyche Young (30:36)
No, no, it depends on what their needs are. So when I show up and if I'm invited, they'll tell me, well, here's my event. Here's the focus that I have. And they'll invite me to come in and I kind of just make sure that what I'm speaking about is relevant to what their event is focused on. Right. Then you have more of a generic, can you come in and speak about your services, mental health, what you do, the importance of it, how to access care. That's more a little more general.

But I might have, just, I did a podcast with someone who was focused on single fathers in the BIPOC community, but single fathers who were widowers, right? So, and that's an area, that's a population that we don't hear enough about, right? So their partners have passed away and they have these children to raise and just that self-efficacy or the lack thereof and can I do this without my partner? So I found that very interesting and that kind of drew me to that particular.

Heath Fletcher (31:17)
No, that's right.

Yeah, that is really interesting. Yeah. And there's probably more like that more little pockets of in the communities that you're as common and is talked about as frequently.

Dr. Psyche Young (31:45)
Right,

right. So what I share is usually like a speaker sheet and I have my signature topics on there. And if that person feels like, I'm having this event and here's what I would love for you to comment, then they'll kind of make that request that way. And then I can tailor my discussion to what their needs are. Absolutely.

Heath Fletcher (32:02)
Mm-hmm.

And so that's a great, now that's a great place to, when you speak, you get to connect with people afterwards. It's a great place to network. So do you kind of, you know, this is more about you and your business, but do you tend to do, stay more localized? Or, I mean, because of the technology now, you can work with people from anywhere. So does it really matter or do you kind of try and keep it more localized for years?

Dr. Psyche Young (32:27)
Well, it matters because of how I'm licensed, right? So I'm now licensed in all of PA. And so usually, usually I stick within my scope of practice with the licensure if I'm doing clinical counseling, clinical work. But if I'm just speaking generally and there's no clinical work, it could be anywhere. It could be global. It could be anywhere because I'm not treating. I'm not providing treatment. Yeah, providing treatment. I stick with PA and I'm going to eventually pursue licensure in New Jersey and I think Georgia.

Heath Fletcher (32:48)
okay, I got it, yeah.

Dr. Psyche Young (32:57)
some states that I'm thinking of. But yeah, for the speaking, it could be anywhere because I'm not providing any clinical focus, right?

Heath Fletcher (33:05)
Are you able to take advantage of telemedicine if you get licensed in multiple states? Can you do it?

Dr. Psyche Young (33:10)
So yes, it depends on how that states like every every state has some different nuances. different policies on that. But once you are, you know, cleared to do that, you can get your telehealth ⁓ credential to do only telehealth in that particular state. Yeah. That I'm licensed here.

Heath Fletcher (33:29)
Yeah.

Yeah. That makes sense. Yes. So what do you, what do you see? How about people in healthcare? Do you find, do you meet or talk to people in healthcare who, who are in need of some support in that sense? Because healthcare in itself is also a bit of a stressful environment to work in. you know,

particularly now, it seems to be more stressful than it ever has been. So do you find you, you know, are people in the healthcare industry, you know, open to having conversations with you or do you tend to, do you see people in the healthcare industry?

Dr. Psyche Young (34:09)
Absolutely. Absolutely. a matter of fact, I just recently got more of an influx of healthcare professionals seeking support and I am pleasantly surprised. Yeah. Lots of nurse practitioners, medical providers, you know, taking a moment to, you know, focus on their mental health. And I find it very refreshing because often their schedules are so grueling, you know, for them to create that space, even if it's 45 minutes, like, let's talk, let's have you pause and slow down for a minute.

Heath Fletcher (34:31)
Yeah.

Dr. Psyche Young (34:39)
to focus on that part of your health, absolutely.

Heath Fletcher (34:42)
Yeah, because it must be a massive to take on not only your own individual life, but to take on a lot of the burdens that they help people with on a day to day basis. mean, they're not superheroes. I mean, they're superheroes, but they don't have, they can't deflect it and they must, it must impact them in some way or

Dr. Psyche Young (35:03)
Yeah, absolutely. I even have some first responders that are now taking that time to process and really be lot more expressive and open about what their day-to-day service is like and the toll that it takes on them. So it's, yeah, and I encourage it. I encourage a person who is that busy, but also in the helping profession to stop for a moment, to seek their own care, because then that profession that you love, ⁓

you'll sacrifice that because you're not caring for yourself. it's just, yeah, that self care has to be big on your agenda and priority.

Heath Fletcher (35:41)
Yeah, that's an important thing for a lot of people to start considering is, like you said, the holistic approach to your healthy life and putting that first because it also ties in with ⁓ being more preventative.

Dr. Psyche Young (35:57)
Yes, preventive medicine. Yes, you know, because sometimes, you know, because they're not very versed in all of it, thinking through that lens, right? So that holistic lens, sometimes in just working with you, part of what I do is education, too. I do a lot of psycho education. So psycho education really helps an individual increase their awareness of what their experience is. Right. So they they're feeling it and experiencing it, but they haven't put those two things together. So sometimes when

we're providing treatment, if we're not including some level of psychoeducation, they don't have those moments of, oh, wow, this is what this is called. This is what this means. Yeah, that's important. So actually getting them to be aware of it is the first step toward preventing something from intensifying or getting worse. Right? Yeah. We don't want to be reactive. We want to be proactive and preventative. So yes.

Heath Fletcher (36:50)
Well, yeah, and probably also being having a bit of insight as to how, you know, we respond to these situations chemically too, right? Because it's a, it's a mind thing, but it's also a body thing. It's also a body thing because we were like a pharmaceutical, we're like a pharmacy inside. We've got all, we've got all the combinations of things. And sometimes it's that chemical reaction that's also happening inside us.

Dr. Psyche Young (37:18)
Absolutely, absolutely. Especially when the body is responding to something traumatic or the relationship between your dopamine levels, your serotonin levels and depression. know, like those changes in hormones, right? It's important to know and understand, well, how is my body working? How does my body even protect me? And how does all of that affect how I function in the greater society or even in my family? So I do a lot of psychoeducation when I can, if allowed.

Heath Fletcher (37:47)
Yeah, I'm sure that that's probably interesting to teach too, I'm sure. Any projects in the future coming up that you're excited about?

Dr. Psyche Young (37:55)
Well, I mentioned the podcast. Yes, that's going to be the next thing for me. And certainly I look at the needs in the community. If I feel like there's a support group that's needed. I've done like a co-occurring support group before. I've tried to organize. We didn't end up doing this group, but a group for caregivers of children with special needs was one on my list. Right. So, yeah, if I see that there's a need for that, certainly running a support

Heath Fletcher (38:18)
caregivers.

Dr. Psyche Young (38:23)
and getting someone to co-lead that with me. Those are things that I always am on the lookout for, but I'm working on, ⁓ you know, I'm gonna see how my podcast does. He then, you know, maybe you can kind of return the favor here.

Heath Fletcher (38:37)
All right, for sure. I'd love to be a guest. I can tell my caregiver story because I was a caregiver for a year and a half for my wife. She had a very serious situation in last two years. So I can share my caregiver experience. She's doing great, but we've been having, it's been an interesting journey for sure. definitely,

definitely needed some support during that process. it's not something we can go through on our own. That's for sure. Right. We all need that help. So as far as your business goes, you happy to be sort of a solopreneur? Do you have visions of growing and having multiple providers in your business?

Dr. Psyche Young (39:28)
So certainly having not so much multiple kind of agencies or anything like that, but I will have supervisees that come on and kind of join my practice in the near future. I'm looking at two people for now, keeping it small. I have to pace myself. But yeah, they'll eventually come on board and work with me to provide the care for the clients. you know, of course we have to think of things like office space and telehealth only and all the different pieces.

Heath Fletcher (39:55)
Yes, it's a complex scaling and growing a business for sure. Yes. Maybe some cross modalities too. you bring in some other, maybe it's a shared office environment you need where they have some other services in the same space. Absolutely. actually carrying the weight on your own.

Dr. Psyche Young (40:15)
Right. Yes. Yeah. That's always a possibility.

Heath Fletcher (40:18)
Yes. That's a good approach for sure. And what about any, what about advice for people who are maybe, in school right now looking to go down this career path for themselves? ⁓ Any advice about where to go, what to do, any other sort of, sort of guidance for someone who's sort of embarking on this career journey for themselves?

Dr. Psyche Young (40:41)
Yeah, really understand that the resources are there. It's just a matter of kind of finding the access to, having the access to those resources, but asking for the support that you might need, right? So let's say a student kind of coming out of that, they're looking for an internship site. There's certain groups online that are absolutely offering resources on internship sites and databases about providers who are, you know, providing that internship space.

So being able to access that and kind of use the online and the social media platforms to that advantage, because that's the quickest way that you're going to get these resources, unless you know someone who knows someone. Use that social media, that online presence to your advantage and get connected in the right rooms. Support is there. Just having that understanding that you're not going to go this alone. Someone else who might be supervising you, they were once where you were.

Heath Fletcher (41:32)
Thanks.

Dr. Psyche Young (41:41)
trying to find an internship site, trying to get their hours. So there is support available to you. You're not gonna do this just alone, right? Yeah, you have support here.

Heath Fletcher (41:52)
and they can find you on LinkedIn.

Dr. Psyche Young (41:53)
They can find me on LinkedIn. I'm on Facebook. I'm on Instagram as Yaa Vision Counseling. So Yaa, Y-A-H, the word vision counseling, right? That's my handle. So you'll find me under that handle on both Instagram, Facebook. And I do, I am on LinkedIn occasionally kind of sharing some nice article that I find or some sort of encouraging or inspirational post. Yes, absolutely.

And you can email me on the yavisioncw at gmail.com. So anyone who wants to inquire more about what I do and seek their own services, that's yavisioncw at gmail.com.

Heath Fletcher (42:35)
Amazing psyche. Thank you so much for ⁓ joining me today. I've really enjoyed meeting you getting to know you and learning about your passion for what you do you clearly ⁓ You're clearly very passionate about your work. So I really appreciate you sharing this with us today and I know the listeners will appreciate it as well

Dr. Psyche Young (42:55)
It was my pleasure, Heath, and thank you for the invitation. Thank you so much.

Heath Fletcher (42:59)
You're welcome.

Okay, that was super great. Nice to talk to Dr. Young and hear her perspective on the critical importance of an integrative care model that weaves together mental, physical, and social health ⁓ and accessibility through telehealth ⁓ is so important. And it really gives people the access they need when they need it ⁓ and is transforming the mental health landscape.

⁓ She spoke very candidly about the need for healthcare professionals to prioritize their own mental well-being and the impact of psychoeducation and preventing mental health challenges before they escalate. So thank you for joining me on this thoughtful conversation and I hope it offered some meaningful insight. And remember, prioritize your mental health. You are worth it. It's just as important as your physical health and support is always within reach if you need it.

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