WEBVTT 00:00.250 --> 00:02.016 Yeah. 00:02.216 --> 00:02.899 Yeah. 00:09.875 --> 00:16.719 Welcome listeners to a world where passion, skill, and adrenaline collide all inside the rink. 00:17.120 --> 00:26.766 Join us as we embark on a thrilling journey around the NHL from the mesmerizing goals and the dirty dangles to the breathtaking speed and power. 00:27.186 --> 00:33.050 So lace up your skates and prepare to be entertained by the Inside the Rink podcast. 00:33.550 --> 00:37.693 Get ready for an experience that will leave you breathless and yearning for more. 00:38.133 --> 00:38.834 Let's dive in. 00:39.574 --> 00:45.100 Now, introducing your hosts, Matt Berry, Tyler Smith, and Connor Green. 00:48.723 --> 00:51.386 Okay, Sarah, we can do all those things. 00:52.287 --> 00:53.949 Hey, it's the Inside the Ring podcast. 00:54.689 --> 00:56.791 It's back at it. 00:57.352 --> 00:59.995 Special thanks to Sarah for that salty little open. 01:00.755 --> 01:01.396 Hey, gentlemen. 01:02.369 --> 01:06.792 How's your, how's your, how's your, how are you now? 01:06.952 --> 01:09.714 How's my little time in between Thanksgiving and Christmas? 01:10.034 --> 01:10.774 Oh, I'm swell. 01:12.355 --> 01:13.036 Isn't it great? 01:13.316 --> 01:13.816 Yeah. 01:14.236 --> 01:18.579 The time between Thanksgiving and Christmas is just all hell on earth. 01:18.619 --> 01:18.819 Yeah. 01:19.159 --> 01:20.140 It's just awful. 01:20.260 --> 01:21.641 Isn't it just the worst? 01:21.681 --> 01:27.885 All the direct decorations up, doing all the Christmas shopping, cleaning up after Thanksgiving, cleaning up your house for Christmas. 01:28.385 --> 01:30.987 They really should give you more of a break in between the two holidays. 01:31.007 --> 01:31.427 They should. 01:33.031 --> 01:36.752 Like a lot more beer and drinks and food. 01:36.972 --> 01:38.733 Yankee swap for every fucking day. 01:38.793 --> 01:40.033 It's just like, what are we doing? 01:40.373 --> 01:41.633 Connor can hit the hash pipe. 01:41.673 --> 01:47.635 I mean, there's all kinds of things that you can do, you know, in between, in between the holidays to take the edge off. 01:48.095 --> 01:52.116 Sometimes that's the only thing that can get you through the fucking holiday at the family's house. 01:52.216 --> 01:52.556 Okay. 01:52.616 --> 01:52.816 Yeah. 01:52.836 --> 01:53.736 A little bit of pipe. 01:53.857 --> 01:55.197 Sure. 01:55.857 --> 01:56.037 Yeah. 01:56.077 --> 01:59.378 You know, speaking of what you need a pipe to get through. 02:01.895 --> 02:06.462 Children these days have a holiday program at 1.30 in the afternoon on a fucking weekday. 02:13.795 --> 02:25.283 OK, so now I have to take my beloved personal time off of work to go listen to two or three kids scream and cry on stage. 02:26.104 --> 02:36.311 Another five to 10 kids sing 50 percent of the song and two or three kids really, you know, be the future Taylor Swift or, you know, Luke Bryan out there. 02:36.351 --> 02:36.832 Who knows? 02:36.952 --> 02:37.412 But yeah. 02:38.294 --> 02:38.975 What the hell? 02:39.015 --> 02:39.436 Probably not. 02:39.556 --> 02:44.262 I saw a viral video of a kid who couldn't have been more than seven or eight years old. 02:44.302 --> 02:47.326 He's up on stage doing his, you know, recital or whatever. 02:47.506 --> 02:50.610 And then he just grabs his junk and shakes it at the camera. 02:50.890 --> 02:56.117 And his mother's like, no, no, you are not doing this. 02:57.975 --> 03:21.832 was he was aggressive and he was shaking it up like an absolute savage and it was fantastic so yeah i mean maybe that's your kid i don't know who knows speaking of savages i was so we were talking about you know who's got something to talk about that's not necessarily hockey related to start off the show and a couple of shows ago i had something that i didn't bring up 03:22.572 --> 03:27.077 So there is a person that we know that is related to the family somehow. 03:27.398 --> 03:34.406 And they have a daughter who is in middle school, probably seventh, eighth grade, somewhere around there. 03:35.267 --> 03:36.308 And she had a boyfriend. 03:37.834 --> 03:40.537 And boyfriend, they've been going out for about a month or so. 03:40.557 --> 03:43.680 You know, things are pretty serious in middle school in a month. 03:44.721 --> 03:48.144 And all of a sudden they broke up and life is terrible. 03:48.764 --> 03:50.806 Oh my God, she's horribly depressed. 03:51.667 --> 03:55.510 Well, that's not the best part of this story yet. 03:56.471 --> 04:02.234 It is the how she got dumped by a middle school kid. 04:03.274 --> 04:15.200 So this young gentleman texts her and he says, so you know that before we started dating, I liked you and I also like somebody else. 04:16.341 --> 04:22.544 Well, I actually liked that other person more than you, but they weren't interested in me. 04:24.011 --> 04:30.119 So now that she's interested in me, her and I are boyfriend and girlfriend. 04:31.261 --> 04:32.863 But wait, there's more. 04:34.244 --> 04:37.305 he sent a selfie of them together to follow it up. 04:37.785 --> 04:38.785 No. 04:39.146 --> 04:40.246 Sealed the deal. 04:40.266 --> 04:45.828 What a middle school douchebag. 04:46.108 --> 04:49.189 Yeah, that's rubbing salt in the wound right there. 04:49.369 --> 04:51.669 That kid's a douchebag. 04:52.870 --> 04:55.851 She should be happy that she can be far away from that kid. 04:55.871 --> 04:56.451 Absolutely. 04:56.871 --> 04:58.492 That's grounds for an ass pounding. 04:58.892 --> 05:01.412 I agree, but I couldn't help myself but laugh. 05:03.653 --> 05:06.115 Yeah, I mean, that's I said, holy shit. 05:06.295 --> 05:11.839 He's doing what everybody probably as a young teenage boy wish they could have done. 05:16.025 --> 05:21.268 You see how when you flip words around, they're going to have a completely different meaning. 05:22.508 --> 05:26.391 You should get his ass pounded. 05:34.275 --> 05:35.695 Yeah. 05:36.155 --> 05:40.777 Well, that's not great either. 05:40.797 --> 05:43.537 I'm not going to lie to you. 05:43.577 --> 05:46.278 We do not condone such actions. 05:46.398 --> 05:48.658 Just leave the ass out of it. 05:48.738 --> 05:52.859 Just leave the ass out of it or leave pounding out of it. 05:53.139 --> 05:58.741 You should be beaten up or, yeah, beat his ass or, yeah. 05:58.881 --> 06:00.461 That's what I had meant. 06:00.501 --> 06:00.681 Yeah. 06:04.102 --> 06:04.362 Yeah. 06:04.402 --> 06:07.625 Well, but anyway, that is that is that is terrible. 06:07.885 --> 06:11.569 That is some sociopathic kind of material. 06:12.069 --> 06:12.309 Yeah. 06:12.469 --> 06:13.330 That's not very good. 06:13.370 --> 06:14.151 That's the crap. 06:14.331 --> 06:17.034 Yeah, that's really great. 06:17.134 --> 06:18.655 That's the program, honestly. 06:18.975 --> 06:19.255 Yeah. 06:19.516 --> 06:23.920 Speaking of hateful, plenty of hateful things happen in the NHL. 06:24.790 --> 06:25.932 Yeah, for sure. 06:25.952 --> 06:27.794 All right. 06:27.854 --> 06:34.202 First off on the on the shelf, Taylor Hall, the Chicago Blackhawks is out for the season. 06:35.407 --> 06:41.634 Halsey has a knee injury, had to undergo a knee surgery. 06:41.674 --> 06:43.035 He'll be out for the rest of the season. 06:43.055 --> 06:57.070 That's a tough break for the Blackhawks who were able to get him from the Bruins in the offseason and hope that he would provide some leadership, veteran ship and a line mate for Conor Bedard. 06:57.190 --> 06:58.031 But now he is done. 06:58.826 --> 07:06.376 Yeah, they didn't really get to develop much chemistry there because they didn't play a ton of games together. 07:06.456 --> 07:14.988 So it's unfortunate for the Blackhawks that they lose a top six guy and also kind of a mentor to Bedard there. 07:15.068 --> 07:16.370 So a tough break. 07:17.091 --> 07:46.008 for chicago they didn't uh leave it a tough break and any sadness for long they made quick work of it and it's not on the the sheet for the topics but they went out and traded for anthony bovillier to fill that that space real quick they did pretty quickly yeah so i mean they had actually not a bad you know a bad little move there for for chicago yeah you know yeah much i mean 07:47.170 --> 07:50.771 I think Chicago, if you're Chicago, you have to address that if Taylor Hall leaves. 07:51.031 --> 07:53.912 I mean, you know, Taylor Hall's out of the lineup. 07:53.952 --> 07:55.452 Now Corey Perry's out of the lineup. 07:55.492 --> 08:00.253 You know, you've got the rookie Connor Bedard there having, you know, a little bit of daddy issues going on. 08:02.333 --> 08:06.394 Bevilier, nine points in 27 games on the season. 08:06.414 --> 08:12.716 You know, a good, I guess a good little insurance piece of some forward that can, he's only 26 years old. 08:14.867 --> 08:19.419 So, you know, maybe he can be something that can get can blend with. 08:20.615 --> 08:22.316 That core that they have at Chicago. 08:22.396 --> 08:26.678 And he had actually six straight seasons, double-digit goals. 08:28.439 --> 08:31.501 Most of them on the Islanders, so that should be even more impressive. 08:31.561 --> 08:36.324 You should get an automatic plus six if you play on the Islanders. 08:36.764 --> 08:36.964 Yeah. 08:37.244 --> 08:41.826 I mean, the Islanders is such a nothing sort of franchise. 08:42.027 --> 08:43.507 But I digress. 08:43.647 --> 08:47.610 Damon Severson, Columbus Blue Jackets, he's out six to eight weeks. 08:48.592 --> 08:53.036 Steverson, who is a really good defenseman, quality defenseman. 08:54.017 --> 09:02.143 He has an oblique injury that he suffered on Saturday versus the Flyers, and he's expected to miss six weeks, maybe eight. 09:02.224 --> 09:07.288 Tough loss for a Columbus Blue Jackets team that is now facing the injury bug. 09:07.408 --> 09:08.789 They already weren't very good. 09:09.470 --> 09:13.053 It looks like they are in the Celebrini stakes. 09:13.905 --> 09:15.265 Yes, I think so. 09:15.485 --> 09:16.045 I think they are. 09:16.065 --> 09:23.107 And it's too bad because they play kind of a tough brand of hockey and are tough to play against. 09:23.847 --> 09:27.147 We saw that with them beating the Bruins last week. 09:27.167 --> 09:39.329 So it's unfortunate, but maybe now they get a chance to kind of turn it over to the kids and Fantilli and Kent Johnson and some of the guys there that will be the future of that team. 09:39.409 --> 09:40.430 So as far as... 09:43.612 --> 09:46.033 This year, you know, you weren't expecting much anyways. 09:46.193 --> 09:52.137 But now, you know, maybe you get to play the kids more and they'll be able to gain some experience, you know, moving forward. 09:52.777 --> 09:53.277 Yeah, tough. 09:53.478 --> 09:57.260 I mean, it's tough for Columbus because the Eastern Conference is pretty stacked. 09:58.200 --> 10:05.124 And, you know, there's just not a lot of room there for them to really climb out from under where they are right now. 10:05.364 --> 10:09.807 So, I mean, it's going to be a situation where they're going to have a high draft pick. 10:10.487 --> 10:16.329 and hopefully be able to add to Goudreau and Fantilli and some of the young players that they have. 10:17.289 --> 10:19.690 That's really where the focus should probably be. 10:20.611 --> 10:24.772 Ricard Raquel of the Pittsburgh Penguins is out long-term. 10:24.792 --> 10:29.334 That's a tough break for Pittsburgh, who I've always kind of thought was – 10:30.434 --> 10:46.922 smoking mirrors kind of team i mean they still have crosby letang you know gino like carlson carlson but but i just don't believe in them at all like i just think that they're just at the end of the day trying to be either out of the playoffs or or one round and done 10:47.594 --> 10:50.718 Yeah, Carter's like 110 years old now, I think. 10:50.898 --> 10:53.060 He is, Jesus. 10:53.180 --> 11:02.330 He has a lot of miles on him from some of those battles, you know, with the Flyers, when he was with the Flyers earlier in his career, so, and then the Kings, but... 11:03.792 --> 11:08.657 Yeah, I mean, it's always seemed like Pittsburgh is maybe a few guys away. 11:08.877 --> 11:16.725 They have some good kind of complementary pieces to go with some of those main guys, but not a lot after that. 11:17.105 --> 11:22.551 So, you know, they have the top two defensemen, but after that, there's not much there. 11:22.951 --> 11:25.774 So, you know, it's... 11:26.855 --> 11:29.898 Losing Raquel is definitely going to be a blow to them. 11:30.598 --> 11:31.859 Sure, no doubt. 11:32.800 --> 11:36.123 John Klingberg, Toronto, long-term IR. 11:37.464 --> 11:42.088 Something that they cannot afford to have in Toronto is to lose defensemen. 11:42.308 --> 11:50.435 They're already weak there, and they lose Klingberg probably for much of, if not the season, on long-term IR. 11:50.475 --> 11:51.495 So that's a tough one. 11:52.483 --> 11:56.364 Well, the Maple Leafs, whose major weakness again is defense. 11:56.865 --> 11:57.485 Yeah. 11:58.125 --> 12:01.706 I mean, this might be addition by subtraction because he's been awful. 12:02.286 --> 12:03.367 So terrible. 12:03.767 --> 12:04.407 He really has. 12:04.727 --> 12:17.572 So maybe, you know, maybe bringing in somebody else or bringing up somebody from from the HL will will help them out more than Klingberg has been because he's just been dreadful for them all year long. 12:17.712 --> 12:17.972 You know, 12:18.872 --> 12:22.114 they need defensive help and they go out and get an offensive defenseman. 12:22.134 --> 12:23.214 It was past his prime. 12:23.835 --> 12:25.536 Just an awful, awful signing. 12:25.596 --> 12:27.417 If you, if you want my honest opinion. 12:29.338 --> 12:29.558 Yeah. 12:29.658 --> 12:34.540 I mean, I just don't think that, you know, he was the type of guy that they needed. 12:35.801 --> 12:39.923 And, and he's shown that he's just been terrible from the, from the opening get go. 12:39.963 --> 12:45.546 So I think it might be more of a distant by subtraction in the long run in that 12:45.786 --> 12:50.810 And the contract goes to long-term IR now, so they get a little bit of space to try to get somebody else. 12:50.850 --> 12:53.952 But, man, that's pretty horrifically bad. 12:54.112 --> 12:55.413 What a waste of 20 games. 12:55.933 --> 12:56.534 Oh, my goodness. 12:56.614 --> 13:01.818 I mean, he just didn't really do anything much at all. 13:01.878 --> 13:03.719 And defensively, a train wreck. 13:04.700 --> 13:08.182 And it's only gotten worse in Toronto since. 13:08.542 --> 13:10.384 Well, they don't have a defensive culture anymore. 13:11.204 --> 13:12.205 They're either right. 13:13.145 --> 13:15.086 It's it's sort of a tough matchup for him. 13:15.186 --> 13:21.050 And then Adam Pellick, the New York Islanders, is on a long term. 13:21.190 --> 13:22.471 I are as well. 13:23.291 --> 13:25.813 He will miss significant time with an upper body injury. 13:25.833 --> 13:29.355 And here's a guy that him and Pellick back when. 13:29.977 --> 13:33.059 They beat the Bruins a few years ago in the playoffs. 13:33.239 --> 13:37.222 All we heard about was this guy and how great he was going to be and so forth. 13:37.262 --> 13:42.485 And he's been a good player, but now he's out for a good amount of time. 13:42.525 --> 13:44.367 And the Islanders, that's a big loss for them. 13:46.168 --> 13:47.389 It sure is. 13:47.409 --> 13:54.353 And don't you think they wish they had Devin Taves back on that team and didn't trade him away for a relief? 13:54.493 --> 13:55.154 I think they picked... 13:56.343 --> 14:00.506 a different, they should have picked a different defenseman other than tapes to, to get rid of it. 14:00.526 --> 14:05.550 Go out and address the loss and add Bortuzzo from St. 14:05.610 --> 14:06.131 Louis. 14:06.251 --> 14:06.591 Yeah. 14:06.611 --> 14:07.051 Right. 14:07.091 --> 14:07.271 Yeah. 14:07.412 --> 14:08.593 Robert Bortuzzo. 14:08.853 --> 14:09.053 Yeah. 14:09.633 --> 14:10.054 Don't worry. 14:10.074 --> 14:10.994 The cup is saved. 14:11.295 --> 14:12.255 Robert Bortuzzo. 14:12.295 --> 14:12.996 Yeah, I guess. 14:13.016 --> 14:15.118 Robert Bortuzzo is ready. 14:15.198 --> 14:15.558 Yeah. 14:16.579 --> 14:16.679 Um, 14:17.352 --> 14:18.433 All right, two-minute minor. 14:18.493 --> 14:26.218 Patrick Laine of the Columbus Blue Jackets was scratched, embarrassed by the scratching, and didn't have warning from the team prior to it. 14:26.238 --> 14:28.820 The saga that is Patrick Laine continues. 14:29.700 --> 14:31.862 Yeah, I just don't know what to really make of him. 14:32.162 --> 14:39.207 I mean, he's got all the talent in the world, but he just floats, and then he's great, and then he's terrible, and then he's scratch. 14:39.247 --> 14:41.989 I mean, it's just you never know what you're going to get from him. 14:42.529 --> 14:50.971 And we've talked about this a lot in different areas, but consistency is a huge thing in the NHL, especially for star players. 14:51.011 --> 14:56.493 That's what makes them stars is because every single night they show up and they play and they produce. 14:57.033 --> 15:02.995 A guy like Laine has all the talent in the world to be a star in this league, and he just does not consistently show up. 15:06.255 --> 15:07.976 Let me defend this feller here. 15:09.376 --> 15:11.537 Where has Patrick Laine played in the NHL? 15:12.816 --> 15:17.661 Winnipeg, Columbus, but Winnipeg had now, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. 15:17.881 --> 15:20.324 They had a great, good talent in that team. 15:20.744 --> 15:24.768 I'm not even talking about talent because there's talent on Columbus then. 15:24.968 --> 15:26.550 And now it's when he's been there. 15:26.990 --> 15:27.271 Yeah. 15:27.571 --> 15:30.414 What is the leadership been like on both of those teams? 15:31.616 --> 15:34.557 Well, it was an issue with Winnipeg. 15:35.457 --> 15:41.899 And I don't know if they were blaming him or if they were blaming Wheeler or if they were blaming, you know, there were different guys. 15:41.919 --> 15:49.121 In Winnipeg, it was the Evander Kane, the Blake Wheeler, Mark Shifley, and Dustin Bufflin. 15:49.141 --> 15:52.362 They were in that time frame. 15:52.742 --> 15:57.423 And that trickled over to when Line A was brought in and then moved out. 15:58.092 --> 15:58.312 Right. 15:58.893 --> 15:58.993 Right. 15:59.013 --> 16:16.584 You know, I mean, also, if you want to look at it in the same perspective, if you want to judge Patrick Laine, what do you think of Pierre-Luc Dubois, who played in the same two garbage organizations and is now in a good Kings organization with good leadership? 16:17.364 --> 16:18.145 and is thriving. 16:18.425 --> 16:21.147 That would be, you know, the comparison here. 16:21.307 --> 16:23.928 I won't pass judgment. 16:24.389 --> 16:27.291 I would say that Columbus's leadership is fine. 16:27.571 --> 16:28.431 Boone Jenner is fine. 16:28.471 --> 16:30.013 I would love to have Boone Jenner on my team. 16:30.393 --> 16:35.036 I mean, he's a great captain, so I don't think it's the leadership of the team. 16:35.096 --> 16:35.736 I think it's him. 16:36.017 --> 16:47.004 I think he, I mean, I think if it's, look, if you need leadership to, to be a pro, like I just, I mean, I get that that has value, but I still think it's the person that's been the problem. 16:47.845 --> 17:06.586 with him he's a great he's got he's a great talented guy i mean would he go to another place and be great like i don't know pick a place i don't know would he go with look at the amount of benchings that paul vincent has just off the cuff used all season long in columbus already 17:06.906 --> 17:10.147 I seem like every time we do an episode, we talk about Liney being benched. 17:10.187 --> 17:10.587 Scratch. 17:11.908 --> 17:14.368 He's not the only one in Columbus that they're doing it to. 17:14.749 --> 17:18.430 There's like three to four other players that have been benched. 17:19.210 --> 17:19.430 Right. 17:20.070 --> 17:21.651 So, I mean... Yeah. 17:23.331 --> 17:23.671 I don't know. 17:23.992 --> 17:24.952 I just... I don't know. 17:25.312 --> 17:27.433 I just think it's... He's... He is... 17:28.755 --> 17:31.957 the most frustrating guy you could possibly have. 17:32.338 --> 17:33.578 Remarkably talented. 17:33.859 --> 17:47.188 And on that team with Goudreau and Fantilli, they should be playing like Arizona and Anaheim and those teams that have used their young talent to actually have better seasons than thought. 17:47.788 --> 17:50.210 But they aren't, and he's a big reason why. 17:51.931 --> 17:54.432 Winter Classic jerseys are revealed. 17:54.452 --> 17:54.613 Yeah. 17:55.989 --> 17:58.092 I just feel like they get worse and worse and worse. 17:58.152 --> 18:03.277 I don't know if they are running out of ideas or if they just are trying too many cute things. 18:03.457 --> 18:06.640 I just feel like they're not getting any better. 18:07.201 --> 18:11.705 I mean, this year I feel like it's really a point of the winter season. 18:12.586 --> 18:20.012 Classic, and neither of these teams have anything classic to draw on. 18:20.032 --> 18:23.354 So I feel like the jerseys were kind of just a third jersey. 18:24.355 --> 18:27.077 It wasn't anything that they were like reaching back on. 18:27.839 --> 18:31.244 and pulling out of the vault or anything like that. 18:32.806 --> 18:38.874 And also, if you look at the Vegas jerseys, it looks like two middle fingers. 18:39.214 --> 18:39.935 Musical chairs. 18:41.758 --> 18:42.519 Musical chairs. 18:42.899 --> 18:45.200 Yeah, this is opposite day. 18:46.581 --> 18:49.422 Yeah, you could be whoever. 18:49.462 --> 18:51.163 Remember that when they told you that in school? 18:53.444 --> 18:56.205 Yeah, look where that got us. 18:56.385 --> 18:57.666 Playing musical chairs. 18:58.866 --> 18:59.866 Yeah, so they blow. 18:59.966 --> 19:01.287 The Winter Classic. 19:01.327 --> 19:02.707 What do you feel about the Winter Classic? 19:02.767 --> 19:03.828 Is this overdone? 19:03.908 --> 19:04.888 Are we all done with this? 19:05.568 --> 19:09.149 I think they should keep the Winter Classic and get rid of all the Stadium Series stuff. 19:09.189 --> 19:11.650 Yeah, the Heritage stuff and the Stadium Series. 19:11.710 --> 19:15.951 Keep one premier event and get rid of all the other shit. 19:16.231 --> 19:20.173 Teams complaining that they're not part of it is the reason, and I get that. 19:20.213 --> 19:23.154 The league plays their favorites. 19:23.194 --> 19:26.675 Bruins have been in it a bunch, and Chicago's been in it a bunch, and Detroit... 19:27.535 --> 19:31.417 So, you know, they're trying to keep it traditional hockey markets, I suppose. 19:31.497 --> 19:35.779 But, you know, those are the marquee teams in the league. 19:36.299 --> 19:39.481 You know, those are what people want to see in a marquee event. 19:39.501 --> 19:50.406 I don't know if this is possible, but what I would do is like is is match the almost like the NBA Christmas Day and do like four games on the day for outdoor games. 19:51.016 --> 19:52.517 on New Year's Day every year. 19:52.537 --> 19:53.937 The NHL can't handle that. 19:54.117 --> 19:55.077 They can't handle that. 19:55.457 --> 19:58.718 I mean, they should be able to, but they can't. 19:58.859 --> 20:02.360 You know, they don't have enough ice gurus and, you know, get the ice proper. 20:02.380 --> 20:02.980 They've got a guy. 20:06.681 --> 20:06.801 Okay. 20:06.821 --> 20:07.302 Yeah, they do. 20:07.422 --> 20:08.323 They have a guy. 20:08.543 --> 20:10.044 It's like, it's typical of the NHL. 20:10.065 --> 20:12.567 Like we, like what happens if he's like sick or something? 20:13.027 --> 20:22.717 Maybe when it's a swimming pool, everybody's out there, you know, Michael Phelps in it around the, around the offensive zone doing the backstroke. 20:22.937 --> 20:23.078 Yeah. 20:23.973 --> 20:24.613 Yeah, sorry. 20:24.633 --> 20:28.115 Hey, let's go scuba diving in the gold crease. 20:28.515 --> 20:34.018 Maybe we can find a puck buried four feet deep in the water that we've got going on here. 20:34.038 --> 20:36.980 I think three or four games on New Year's Day would be fun. 20:37.400 --> 20:38.340 I think it would be fantastic. 20:38.380 --> 20:41.522 Another crazy idea, and I haven't actually heard this one. 20:41.582 --> 20:43.003 I just pulled this one out of my ass. 20:44.205 --> 20:48.530 What if instead of doing, yeah, a lot of ass talk, really weird. 20:49.270 --> 20:56.077 Instead of doing any outdoor games, specialty games, all star, you know, the junk like that. 20:57.014 --> 21:01.555 You know how they do the world championships like right in the middle of playoffs. 21:01.575 --> 21:04.916 So anybody who's seriously in contention for the Cups not playing. 21:05.396 --> 21:05.676 Right. 21:06.516 --> 21:16.479 Why don't they just take a regular week to two weeks off in the middle of the season and do a world championship style tournament every year? 21:17.747 --> 21:37.635 in north america well they've i think they've aren't they talking about world cup of hockey right well the world cup of hockey is not annually it's still either biannually or every four years no every four so i think they're gonna do it maybe maybe it's every two because it splits 21:38.325 --> 21:41.686 Oh, maybe they are going to do it every four, though, like opposite the Olympics. 21:42.126 --> 21:48.708 So you'll get this two years, and then two years later, you'll get the Olympics, and then two years later, the World Cup. 21:48.968 --> 21:52.389 Well, regardless, the World Championships is every year, is my point. 21:53.089 --> 21:54.030 It happens regardless. 21:54.930 --> 22:11.136 Why don't you try to rope something, you know, like that into the schedule where, you know, most of these events are had because they are pandering to the ad sponsors of the team and of the leagues, right? 22:11.777 --> 22:20.040 So you have to pitch it in a way that the league is going to be able to make more money and or expand upon their brand. 22:20.800 --> 22:22.581 So how's an impactful way that you do that? 22:23.746 --> 22:37.811 You have this tournament featured in 10 to 15 other countries that are watching some of your best players play with some fringe players from these countries that don't directly play in the NHL, obviously. 22:38.899 --> 22:56.010 but there's going to be hundreds of thousands to millions more people watching that tournament than would normally be watching NHL content at that time during the prime months of hockey, you know, like nobody gives a shit about the world championships during June. 22:56.650 --> 22:56.850 Right. 22:57.430 --> 23:01.292 I'm all for, um, any kind of best on best tournament in hockey. 23:01.612 --> 23:02.912 I think that's what people want to see. 23:02.932 --> 23:04.293 That's why people love the Olympics. 23:04.333 --> 23:11.296 That's why people were clamoring to have, you know, the world cup of hockey come back or like those Canada cup series back in the day. 23:11.956 --> 23:16.378 Um, people love best on best tournaments, uh, especially when countries are involved. 23:16.418 --> 23:18.718 So, um, I'm all for any of that. 23:18.798 --> 23:25.061 You can put it in the, in the, in, in season, out of season in preseason, you know, whenever, um, 23:25.701 --> 23:49.171 um but sign me up i'm in i love it yeah yeah i'm i'm in too i mean any type of it's not and don't have an in-season tournament that means nothing like the nba i have an actual tournament that actually means a damn if you would have asked me at the beginning of the year hey do you know who the mvp of the in-season tournament and the mv uh nba is going to be probably could have gotten it right yeah yeah probably putting a banner up 23:49.941 --> 23:52.082 They're putting a banner up. 23:52.102 --> 23:52.562 Absolutely. 23:52.882 --> 23:55.583 They had hats made and everything. 23:55.783 --> 23:59.524 It looked different than the championship banners because they wanted to distinguish it. 23:59.884 --> 24:11.288 Now, because this is a hockey podcast and we're talking about something NBA related, I want you to explain this to me because I don't fully understand how this works. 24:11.308 --> 24:15.669 So I'm going to kind of explain you what I understand of how the sin season tournament works. 24:16.149 --> 24:17.770 You kind of correct me where I'm wrong. 24:18.630 --> 24:27.574 The base that I get is the in-season tournament isn't necessarily just like a week-long thing during the year. 24:28.175 --> 24:31.916 It is something that happens like over months of the season. 24:31.936 --> 24:36.599 It's like Tuesdays and Thursdays or Tuesdays and Fridays. 24:37.399 --> 24:41.602 the games on those days count towards the in season tournament. 24:41.622 --> 24:42.243 Right. 24:42.563 --> 24:45.305 And I would assume that they count your wins. 24:45.585 --> 24:49.128 And then I would assume like points and things for like tiebreaker or something like that. 24:49.929 --> 24:50.049 Yeah. 24:50.129 --> 24:54.152 And then you obviously get some type of reward. 24:54.432 --> 24:57.074 So I assume you get a trophy, a banner, things like that. 24:57.094 --> 25:00.857 Does it have any other impact on the season and or the playoffs? 25:01.097 --> 25:01.997 No, I know that. 25:02.058 --> 25:03.499 I think I heard, uh, 25:04.119 --> 25:07.741 these players got like $500,000 bonuses if they win. 25:08.141 --> 25:09.782 Yeah, it was money. 25:10.042 --> 25:10.482 That was it. 25:10.662 --> 25:12.183 Money and a trip to Vegas. 25:12.823 --> 25:19.946 It's trying to get rid of this load management BS and having guys sit out every third game. 25:20.106 --> 25:21.827 It's trying to get guys to play more games. 25:22.247 --> 25:23.628 It's essentially what it comes down to. 25:23.748 --> 25:27.790 So they'll just sit out the games that are not on Tuesdays or Thursdays? 25:27.850 --> 25:28.370 Yeah, I guess. 25:28.450 --> 25:30.431 Now they can just sit out different games, I guess. 25:30.491 --> 25:30.631 Yeah. 25:30.951 --> 25:38.392 So they focus, I mean, looking, working it backwards, they obviously focused on, Hey, Friday, Saturdays and Sundays. 25:38.472 --> 25:40.733 If we have games, people are going to watch that shit. 25:40.813 --> 25:41.353 We don't care. 25:41.933 --> 25:46.674 But if we can nail people in the middle of the week with a spicy game, that's got meaning to it. 25:46.834 --> 25:47.554 That makes sense. 25:47.654 --> 25:47.994 Gotcha. 25:48.074 --> 25:56.916 The issue was I couldn't follow when the games were, who was doing what, like it was just thrown in the middle of the season in different nights and 25:57.256 --> 25:58.317 I had no idea. 25:58.337 --> 25:59.358 It wasn't tidy enough. 25:59.418 --> 26:00.199 Like I just wait. 26:00.419 --> 26:04.364 So it's not like every game that happens that night is an in-season tournament game. 26:04.404 --> 26:05.485 It's only specific once. 26:06.038 --> 26:14.540 It was specific ones, I believe, that had that ramification to it. 26:14.560 --> 26:16.341 I didn't know when they were. 26:16.361 --> 26:17.161 I didn't know. 26:17.821 --> 26:18.341 I'm with you. 26:18.441 --> 26:20.782 If you're going to have an in-season tournament, do it for three weeks. 26:21.302 --> 26:25.683 The games didn't mean anything. 26:25.923 --> 26:29.244 It was a regular season game that they counted towards the in-season tournament. 26:29.284 --> 26:30.464 That doesn't mean anything. 26:30.684 --> 26:32.585 It doesn't mean anything. 26:33.385 --> 26:35.106 Here would be my pitch to the NHL. 26:35.667 --> 26:49.556 Hey, if you want to do an in-season tournament, Wednesday nights, you have a triple header or a double header, whatever you want to have, on ESPN. 26:50.857 --> 26:53.879 I repeat, ESPN. 26:54.760 --> 26:57.122 No plus, no two. 26:57.142 --> 26:57.642 ESPN. 26:58.541 --> 26:59.362 everybody can watch it. 26:59.722 --> 27:03.544 Everybody can watch it and you will get an East coast game. 27:04.165 --> 27:10.929 And maybe you, you know, make one of them on the East coast, start earlier and do like an East coast, a central and a Pacific game. 27:11.249 --> 27:11.389 Yeah. 27:11.409 --> 27:16.232 You could start an East coast game at six or something and start a central game at five 36, something like that. 27:16.272 --> 27:16.593 Whatever. 27:16.613 --> 27:17.953 Yeah. 27:18.454 --> 27:19.714 I mean, maybe do it in Florida. 27:19.835 --> 27:22.376 So all the, the blue plate specials. 27:22.416 --> 27:22.556 Yeah. 27:22.576 --> 27:22.736 Yeah. 27:24.137 --> 27:29.801 Um, but you have those games on a Wednesday, you make them nationally televised on blanket ESPN. 27:30.101 --> 27:33.724 If you want to have ESPN ESPN plus both stream the game. 27:34.344 --> 27:34.665 Sure. 27:35.225 --> 27:36.906 But you're making it the most available. 27:37.026 --> 27:43.491 And I feel like the NHL has kind of gotten away from the old, uh, I think it was rival. 27:44.042 --> 27:45.023 Wednesday night rivalry. 27:45.283 --> 27:46.464 Wednesday night rivalry. 27:46.704 --> 27:50.628 And then they switched over to NBC Sports and they kept it going. 27:51.128 --> 27:52.449 They really got away from that. 27:52.509 --> 27:56.393 And that was like the premier Wednesday event in the NHL. 27:56.453 --> 28:02.458 And most people looked, ooh, what's the Wednesday night rivalry game that they're going to have nationally televised? 28:03.035 --> 28:06.216 They did until they started putting horseshit games on Wednesday. 28:06.956 --> 28:08.916 They started putting two teams that aren't rivals. 28:09.396 --> 28:09.576 Yeah. 28:09.656 --> 28:10.036 Yeah. 28:10.176 --> 28:26.280 But I mean, you know, if you have like, look at all the craziness that's gone on in the NHL recently with, you know, people basically getting mugged on the ice and having, you know, everybody on the ice get a 10 minute misconduct at the same time. 28:26.480 --> 28:32.221 I think there's going to be opportunities available to have absolute mayhem. 28:33.201 --> 28:51.975 And I honestly think from a player's perspective, and I could be completely wrong on this, but if you're a player in the locker room and you're like one of the fringe third or fourth line players, and you know that you're going to be on national televised ESPN on a rivalry night game. 28:52.489 --> 29:02.158 and you look over at another third-line, fourth-line plug, and you say, hey, man, do you want to get some absolute ISO cam on national TV? 29:02.639 --> 29:02.799 Yeah. 29:03.159 --> 29:04.680 Let's fucking drop the mitts, bro. 29:05.381 --> 29:05.661 Yeah. 29:05.721 --> 29:06.542 And they will do it. 29:06.562 --> 29:08.544 I guarantee you people will do that. 29:08.564 --> 29:12.388 That sounds great, but the league doesn't want fighting anymore. 29:12.768 --> 29:13.968 Like, it sounds great to me. 29:14.209 --> 29:15.229 I would love to watch that. 29:15.729 --> 29:20.191 I would say 90% of the hardcore NHL fans would want to watch that. 29:20.631 --> 29:22.772 But then, you know, the league doesn't want it. 29:23.032 --> 29:29.054 Guys, linesmen, step in before guys can even... The league is like, oh my God, no fighting. 29:29.434 --> 29:32.295 No fighting. 29:32.895 --> 29:33.696 Please fight again. 29:33.956 --> 29:37.177 With the way the player's safety is handling things... 29:39.211 --> 29:49.338 It's just totally ass backwards of how if you want to get fighting out of the league, you got to fucking police the league better, and they're just not doing it. 29:49.658 --> 29:52.300 They're doing a terrible job of policing the league. 29:52.320 --> 29:57.923 They are policing the players who are policing the game themselves. 29:57.983 --> 30:01.466 Branson was almost paralyzed on that hit by Cousins. 30:02.086 --> 30:06.169 The refs called to play a major, watched it, 30:07.110 --> 30:09.051 then reduced it to a minor penalty. 30:09.411 --> 30:14.413 Good Branson ends up getting an extra two for almost being murdered on the ice. 30:15.073 --> 30:18.295 And then he tries to fight cousins twice after that. 30:18.395 --> 30:23.997 And the guy, and then he had to actually grab the guy and beat the shit out of them. 30:24.417 --> 30:26.858 And then the linesman's were still trying to step in. 30:27.138 --> 30:31.540 He's hitting them while he was down on the ice, which is a no, no one fighting, but because the league, 30:31.980 --> 30:39.025 Because the linesmen and the referees were nowhere to be found when it really mattered, he had to take it into his own hands. 30:39.105 --> 30:43.509 And now Goodbranson's probably facing a suspension for doing that. 30:43.569 --> 30:48.793 And it should have been Cousins originally who got the suspension for the hit. 30:49.693 --> 30:50.053 Should have been. 30:50.174 --> 30:51.715 Because the hit was terrible. 30:51.935 --> 30:53.656 Confirmed right before we started recording. 30:53.676 --> 30:54.857 Goodbranson got one? 30:54.877 --> 30:55.177 Correct. 30:55.317 --> 30:55.938 Yep, he got one. 30:56.397 --> 31:09.603 Well, Nick Cousins should have got more than one because that was frigging... I think what really screwed Goodbranson there is he laid down on the ice like he was dead, and then he popped up like the fucking Undertaker in the memes, right? 31:09.623 --> 31:15.325 And just started going absolutely crazy like he wanted to rip Nick Cousins' head off. 31:15.786 --> 31:20.007 So that, I think, ruined your chance at having a major there. 31:20.027 --> 31:20.087 And... 31:23.897 --> 31:32.803 I mean, it should be the, it shouldn't be, and it is, but they always go to the injury or not, whether or not the guy's injured and it shouldn't be, it should be the hit. 31:33.003 --> 31:34.183 The hit was awful. 31:34.564 --> 31:36.925 He drove his head into the dash. 31:38.006 --> 31:39.386 I think you hit the nail on the head. 31:39.526 --> 31:51.213 If you want to eliminate those hits, it should be punished based on the action, not the result because a lot of the NHL has based into the result. 31:51.674 --> 31:52.414 So like, yeah, 31:53.174 --> 31:56.277 And there's gamesmanship that organizations and coaches play. 31:56.657 --> 32:00.380 They won't announce that a player is going to play in the next game. 32:00.400 --> 32:04.503 They'll say he's questionable until the suspension comes out. 32:04.583 --> 32:06.984 And then they say, yep, he's going to play the next game. 32:07.145 --> 32:07.425 Good to go. 32:07.895 --> 32:08.055 Yeah. 32:08.095 --> 32:13.358 I mean, there's 100% teams do that and, and people, and I, and I hate it. 32:13.478 --> 32:20.141 Like I'm, I'm glad good Branson got up and went right after cousins, even though it probably cost them a major penalty. 32:20.201 --> 32:24.623 Like I don't want to see guys lying on the ice, like soccer players, like holding their leg. 32:24.863 --> 32:31.987 And then all of a sudden they pop back up and take a free kick from fucking 30 yards away and score a goal and, and run around and take their shirt off and wave it around. 32:32.047 --> 32:33.408 Like, I don't, I don't need that. 32:33.628 --> 32:33.828 Like I, 32:34.548 --> 32:55.821 have a guy he gets plastered in the ice gregory campbell you know breaks his leg on a shot he gets up he's not lying they're dead you know it's a he's a hockey player he's not a soccer player some other wuss bag get up and and go after the guy i'm glad branson did that right and of course there's jacob truber who's in the news again for nearly decapitating trent frederick 32:56.301 --> 32:56.641 Yeah. 32:56.701 --> 33:07.724 Bruins with a swing like that, that Marty McSorley would be proud of right in the neck of Trent Frederick and a complete reckless abandon with his stick. 33:08.204 --> 33:12.545 And whether or not you think he hit him, try to hit him in the shoulder or in the ribs or in the whatever. 33:13.145 --> 33:13.886 It doesn't matter. 33:13.906 --> 33:19.647 You're you're being super reckless with your stick and you should get a hefty suspension for that type of thing. 33:20.663 --> 33:21.063 Yeah. 33:21.123 --> 33:25.506 And instead he got a $5,000 fine, which is basically like a cup of coffee for Jacob Truba. 33:25.746 --> 33:28.027 They got 23 games or whatever it was. 33:28.427 --> 33:36.331 So, so even though now they're trying to protect those, those types of get those plays out of the game, uh, it's not suspended now. 33:36.611 --> 33:45.796 And it was suspended back then when fighting and, and all that other stuff was, was more, uh, allowed and more available and happened more frequently. 33:46.036 --> 33:53.322 Have you guys seen the video mashup of the Jacob Truba swinging in the MLB? 33:54.843 --> 33:55.003 No. 33:55.283 --> 33:55.504 No? 33:55.564 --> 33:55.744 No. 33:56.925 --> 34:15.159 So basically it has the video of Jacob Truba swinging his stick, and when it makes contact with Frederick's head, it switches over to some MLB player who just watches a baseball and then just watches, like, Frederick's head as the baseball goes flying around. 34:15.559 --> 34:16.260 The stadium. 34:16.360 --> 34:17.681 It is a drive to left field. 34:18.422 --> 34:18.662 Yeah. 34:19.282 --> 34:21.444 There's a long drive to whatever. 34:21.764 --> 34:25.227 Speaking of something really funny that just happened. 34:26.328 --> 34:30.071 John Navarro scored his thousand points tonight against the New York Islanders. 34:30.091 --> 34:34.135 While I'm talking about this, both you guys pick up your phones and look up the group chat and what I sent you. 34:35.236 --> 34:36.136 At the end of the game, 34:37.197 --> 34:43.745 Bo Horvat eventually scored, I believe in overtime to help the Islanders win four to three. 34:44.265 --> 34:52.895 And there is an absolutely amazing crying puppy dog picture of John Tavares. 34:53.355 --> 34:54.517 Losing to his old fear. 34:55.097 --> 34:56.238 Losing to his old team. 34:56.298 --> 34:59.380 Shout out ITR writer Max Baum for sending that to us. 34:59.421 --> 35:00.842 That is priceless. 35:00.922 --> 35:01.862 That is terrific. 35:02.323 --> 35:03.624 That is terrific. 35:03.664 --> 35:05.325 We have our thoughts on John Tavares. 35:05.465 --> 35:08.328 Yeah, thoughts and prayers, Johnny T. Yeah, thoughts, thoughts. 35:09.208 --> 35:11.530 Senators Panthers, they policed it themselves. 35:11.790 --> 35:17.014 The showdown had 167 pedaling minutes, 10 misconducts at once. 35:17.515 --> 35:18.395 Yeah, did you hear that? 35:18.536 --> 35:21.398 That was one of the best referee calls I've ever heard. 35:21.698 --> 35:23.881 Everyone on the ice gets a misconduct. 35:23.941 --> 35:24.862 Everybody in the ice. 35:25.262 --> 35:26.464 That's what the referee says. 35:26.504 --> 35:29.067 Everyone on the ice gets a misconduct. 35:29.227 --> 35:29.428 Yes. 35:30.108 --> 35:30.449 Everybody. 35:31.736 --> 35:33.297 Oh, I love it. 35:33.677 --> 35:35.177 This is the good old days right here. 35:35.398 --> 35:39.099 This is when, this is when men were men and hockey was hockey. 35:39.699 --> 35:40.299 Oh my goodness. 35:40.540 --> 35:41.340 That was beautiful. 35:41.660 --> 35:45.221 And the wild thing is like, if I were to rack these guys off here, right? 35:45.301 --> 35:56.446 Count on your fingers, how many names you actually recognize out of the people who got a misconduct, Brady Kachuk, Eric Brandstrom, Rourke Chartier, 35:57.199 --> 36:09.603 Dimitri Kulikov, Travis Hamannik, Drake Batherson, Ryan Lomberg, Oliver Ekman Larson, Kevin Stenland, Jonah Gajevich. 36:10.223 --> 36:10.963 That's a mouthful. 36:11.464 --> 36:13.724 Sam Bennett and Matthew Joseph. 36:14.304 --> 36:19.266 How many of those guys did you actually, you know, be as a household name? 36:19.766 --> 36:20.586 Yeah. 36:20.706 --> 36:23.847 Name is probably to Chuck baby Bennett. 36:24.708 --> 36:24.788 Um, 36:25.828 --> 36:46.204 that's probably about last night i suppose i mean i know some of these other guys because it's you know the bro that's like the ultimate how much of a hockey nerd are you is like how many names can you rack off yeah like earlier um for those of you who watch this show and not one of the other 70 shows that maddie and smitty do together 36:46.784 --> 36:54.509 We just recorded Bruins benders earlier tonight and we threw up there who had the best plus minus of all time. 36:55.070 --> 37:00.153 I feel like if you can rack off the top five, you're probably a hockey nerd. 37:00.553 --> 37:00.873 Yeah. 37:00.893 --> 37:01.954 I think that's true. 37:02.454 --> 37:03.475 I think that's probably true. 37:03.875 --> 37:04.055 Yeah. 37:04.476 --> 37:05.016 Top five. 37:05.236 --> 37:05.496 Yeah. 37:05.656 --> 37:07.238 Well, especially if you get the first guy. 37:08.080 --> 37:15.303 Because I think even though he was obviously a great player, you wouldn't think that that guy was the guy who has plus 722. 37:15.423 --> 37:15.764 Yeah. 37:15.784 --> 37:16.324 Hi, puppy. 37:16.404 --> 37:17.785 That's a lot. 37:18.005 --> 37:21.026 Oh, my Lord, that's a lot. 37:21.046 --> 37:21.266 Yeah, it is. 37:23.760 --> 37:24.240 It is a lot. 37:24.320 --> 37:25.500 Five-minute major time. 37:25.520 --> 37:28.041 2024 NHL All-Star Game. 37:28.261 --> 37:29.781 Player draft returns. 37:29.941 --> 37:33.762 Four captain will pick teams with a celebrity captain to assist. 37:33.882 --> 37:34.262 Oh, great. 37:34.822 --> 37:38.263 I hope the Blues is... Michael J. Fox. 37:38.303 --> 37:38.823 Let me think. 37:38.943 --> 37:39.963 Michael J. Fox. 37:41.304 --> 37:42.204 Dennis Leary. 37:42.384 --> 37:43.084 Who are the others? 37:43.304 --> 37:44.264 Elijah Cuthbert. 37:45.985 --> 37:48.165 And Carrie Underwood. 37:48.698 --> 37:51.301 Yeah, there you go. 37:51.341 --> 37:52.082 Justin Bieber. 37:52.282 --> 37:56.006 Justin Bieber and Drake are going to show up at the show. 37:56.026 --> 37:57.468 Who is Ryan Reynolds? 37:57.488 --> 37:58.589 He almost bought the Senators. 37:59.370 --> 38:00.311 Maybe him. 38:00.431 --> 38:02.534 He might be feeling a little blackballed. 38:03.054 --> 38:04.556 Maybe. 38:04.736 --> 38:05.337 Heart feelings. 38:06.226 --> 38:06.446 Yeah. 38:06.966 --> 38:07.427 You know what? 38:07.667 --> 38:09.628 I just say get rid of all all-star games. 38:09.648 --> 38:10.288 We've had enough. 38:10.308 --> 38:11.129 It's all done. 38:11.369 --> 38:12.990 All-star games stink. 38:13.230 --> 38:13.870 They really do. 38:14.310 --> 38:21.414 If you want to do it, do a skills event and have all the guys go out there and have some fun and call it a day. 38:21.434 --> 38:24.876 Well, they are expanding the skills event. 38:24.896 --> 38:29.739 They're going back to actually hockey-related skills, none of the bullshit gimmicky stuff. 38:30.359 --> 38:33.061 that they were doing in Vegas and Florida. 38:33.481 --> 38:34.581 So they're doing away with that. 38:34.621 --> 38:38.564 They're going back towards real hockey-related skills like they used to do. 38:39.104 --> 38:41.845 So hard to shot, accuracy, skating speed. 38:41.865 --> 38:46.368 Yeah, and I think more actual hockey talent. 38:46.608 --> 38:48.909 Do you remember how they used to have like a – 38:50.330 --> 38:56.155 it was almost like an agility course, but like, yeah, that little like obstacle course through the ice. 38:56.575 --> 38:58.497 I think they're going to have some more things like that. 38:59.618 --> 39:11.207 They're going to have the PWHL three on three, I believe instead of the all-star event being a two day event this year, it's going to be three days with more stuff involved. 39:11.687 --> 39:14.509 So they're really kind of sprawling it out a little bit. 39:15.650 --> 39:21.413 Um, but of course it is in Toronto, you know, your, your main hub, you've got absolutely everything there. 39:21.753 --> 39:27.316 I'm pretty sure that the league is going to roll absolutely everything out. 39:29.077 --> 39:33.559 Nothing against the all-star game or anything, but I hope it's like a fucking blizzard. 39:33.939 --> 39:40.803 I mean, I just hope this is a city is covered in like three feet of snow and people can't get around at all. 39:41.143 --> 39:44.905 And it's just miserable because they should put it in a place where people want to go. 39:45.225 --> 39:48.666 And people don't want to go to Toronto in the middle of fucking wintertime. 39:48.926 --> 39:50.106 I mean, Toronto is a great city. 39:50.447 --> 39:51.307 I've been many times. 39:51.367 --> 39:51.947 I love it there. 39:52.387 --> 39:54.988 But it's not where you want to go in the middle of winter. 39:55.188 --> 39:59.529 You want to go to Vegas or you want to go to Florida or you want to go to Texas. 39:59.789 --> 40:00.129 I don't know. 40:00.549 --> 40:02.610 It's not fucking Toronto, though. 40:03.649 --> 40:05.751 but that's where it is. 40:06.151 --> 40:09.533 So that's where all the hockey fans are, or at least a lot of them. 40:09.774 --> 40:09.954 Yeah. 40:10.134 --> 40:12.436 I mean, those will show up. 40:12.556 --> 40:17.139 I mean, that's probably part of it is a lot of corporate sponsors won't be half empty. 40:17.860 --> 40:19.441 So, you know, that'll be fun. 40:20.221 --> 40:22.663 Honestly, I say Canadian rights. 40:23.163 --> 40:25.084 Play pawn hockey or something like that. 40:25.124 --> 40:26.385 Something different. 40:26.485 --> 40:29.906 Like I just say that any all star game doesn't work anymore. 40:30.107 --> 40:31.727 One, because the players don't want to do it. 40:31.767 --> 40:33.929 They make too much money to that. 40:34.029 --> 40:37.451 You used to never see like in baseball. 40:37.471 --> 40:39.732 You used to never see anybody in the National League. 40:39.992 --> 40:45.275 So there was a chance to see guys who you never saw play all year long. 40:45.895 --> 40:49.117 So now you see everybody on every network, every, every night. 40:49.478 --> 40:51.999 So it doesn't, it's no, there's no special. 40:52.760 --> 40:52.900 Yeah. 40:52.920 --> 40:54.481 There's no mystery to it anymore. 40:54.541 --> 40:58.644 There's no, there's no anything that's something different from it. 40:58.984 --> 41:00.145 No, there's nothing unique. 41:00.225 --> 41:03.447 It doesn't mean the game doesn't mean anything. 41:03.527 --> 41:06.989 It's not real hockey because there's no hitting or anything there. 41:07.089 --> 41:14.835 I mean, you lucky if someone stick checks somebody in the all-star game or gets in their way, nevermind, you know, back checking or anything like that. 41:15.915 --> 41:27.726 I mean, it's just, and it's played at like 40% speed of, of the real game, which is, it's like, you know, you, well, maybe there'll be somebody who has a midget hockey, right? 41:27.766 --> 41:34.012 You know, maybe that draft will make somebody a little pissed off that they didn't get picked, you know? 41:35.368 --> 41:38.671 I highly doubt it because they'll probably be drunk as shit. 41:40.192 --> 41:41.493 That's really what they should do. 41:41.513 --> 41:47.519 They should have guys having beers on the bench or something and every shift they have to... Screw the captains. 41:50.802 --> 41:54.345 throw all your sticks at center ice and have one guy throw all the sticks out. 41:54.365 --> 41:58.008 Like we did down. 41:58.168 --> 42:02.171 And all of a sudden you get guys who don't like each other playing each other. 42:02.551 --> 42:07.475 Maybe you have a team with like nine defensemen on it and another team with all forwards or something. 42:07.695 --> 42:08.656 Yeah. 42:11.078 --> 42:12.139 That would be a good idea. 42:12.299 --> 42:12.879 Honestly. 42:13.059 --> 42:14.641 I think do something like that. 42:14.701 --> 42:15.761 Just do something different. 42:16.582 --> 42:16.922 I don't know. 42:17.423 --> 42:19.104 Well, the Minnesota Wild did something different. 42:19.124 --> 42:20.084 They fired their coach. 42:20.585 --> 42:23.207 Dean Everson has gone and hired John Hines. 42:24.107 --> 42:30.211 And then they went on to win four in a row, then lost a couple, and then beat the Kraken in their last game, playing a little bit better. 42:30.912 --> 42:33.653 But that's a team that's kind of been disappointing. 42:34.454 --> 42:35.054 Yeah, they have been. 42:35.415 --> 42:36.335 They have been disappointing. 42:37.176 --> 42:45.441 And we both expected pretty big things from them, and they just, for whatever reason, haven't found it yet. 42:46.778 --> 42:48.959 I don't really know what the problem is there. 42:48.979 --> 42:53.222 I think early on in the season, some of it may have been goaltending. 42:54.182 --> 42:55.263 Goaltending wasn't great. 42:55.383 --> 42:56.864 They let a guy like Dumba go. 42:56.944 --> 43:06.790 Maybe they missed some of that leadership and so forth, but it hasn't seemed to click for them yet this year, and they're starting to run out of time. 43:06.810 --> 43:07.830 26 in the league. 43:08.011 --> 43:11.653 They are four to six points out of a wild card spot. 43:13.019 --> 43:23.468 And they are $14 million in dead cap, and things are looking pretty gloomy in the state of Ohio. 43:23.728 --> 43:29.052 Yeah, I mean, that's all based off the Suter and Parise deals, I'm assuming, right? 43:29.473 --> 43:29.853 Yeah. 43:29.893 --> 43:36.979 So, I mean, when those contracts were done, everybody in hockey was kind of like, whoa, that's a long time. 43:37.991 --> 43:44.955 uh, and huge contracts for, for guys who, you know, Suter was never amounted to. 43:45.415 --> 43:45.615 Right. 43:45.675 --> 43:50.298 He was kind of like on his way, like, like starting the back half of his career. 43:50.358 --> 43:52.499 Parise is, you know, not a huge guy. 43:52.559 --> 44:00.323 He's, he had been productive, but, um, you know, to have, to keep that up over 10 more years after he'd already been doing it for a while. 44:00.983 --> 44:29.049 um i don't know it's it would go down as maybe arguably a couple of the worst contracts and in the league um you know if you want to throw the kovachuk trade uh contract in there too with atlanta from back in the day if you think about this right and you really think back on it the nashville predators are absolute legends of getting rid of defensemen at the right time yeah 44:30.276 --> 44:39.001 If you think about it, just in recent history, Ryan Ellis to Philadelphia, he played two games and then hasn't played since. 44:40.262 --> 44:45.145 Ekholm went to the Oilers, got hurt, didn't play so much. 44:45.425 --> 44:46.086 He's back now. 44:48.227 --> 44:50.508 Shea Weber, they traded him for P.K. 44:50.548 --> 44:53.850 Subban, and then after a year or two, he's turned into nothing. 44:53.870 --> 44:54.351 Yeah. 44:55.532 --> 45:19.364 and then right there ryan suitor he was a former predator as well yeah yeah well yeah i guess they they seem to be pretty shrewd as far as that stuff goes and and good on them um but yeah i mean i don't know some they need some upgrades though nashville does 45:20.248 --> 45:25.433 Well, they are in the first wildcard spot in the Western Conference with a whopping 30 points. 45:26.073 --> 45:30.618 But do you know who is hot on those heels? 45:32.403 --> 45:34.544 With 28 points in the Western Conference. 45:34.784 --> 45:35.544 Arizona Coyotes. 45:35.984 --> 45:37.764 Abso-fucking-lutely, baby. 45:38.164 --> 45:38.665 The Yotes. 45:38.785 --> 45:39.685 Arizona Coyotes. 45:39.785 --> 45:40.645 As in dogs. 45:41.305 --> 45:42.565 The Coyote Mullets. 45:42.946 --> 45:43.906 Yeah, Coyotes. 45:44.106 --> 45:45.226 That would be a hell of a name, eh? 45:45.746 --> 45:47.687 Wouldn't it be? 45:47.747 --> 45:49.747 All right, Corey Perry incident. 45:49.987 --> 45:51.228 Contract was terminated. 45:51.288 --> 45:53.708 Something happened with someone in the organization. 45:54.288 --> 45:58.429 Some people said it might have been Chris Chelios' daughter who was in. 45:58.589 --> 45:59.750 Speculation. 45:59.830 --> 46:00.730 Speculation only. 46:00.830 --> 46:01.430 Allegedly. 46:02.391 --> 46:05.336 And to tell you who it wasn't, Conor Bernard's mama. 46:05.556 --> 46:06.357 Nope, wasn't Conor. 46:06.377 --> 46:07.118 Wasn't her at all. 46:07.459 --> 46:11.445 And that was really difficult for him to have to swallow. 46:12.186 --> 46:12.346 Yeah. 46:12.386 --> 46:12.567 Yeah. 46:13.027 --> 46:14.690 That was really bad. 46:15.174 --> 46:21.136 I don't know how that rumor gets started and then runs through it. 46:21.496 --> 46:23.316 And he has to deal with it. 46:23.376 --> 46:24.597 The mom has to deal with it. 46:25.677 --> 46:27.057 The Blackhawks have to deal with it. 46:27.097 --> 46:27.737 Perry has to. 46:27.777 --> 46:33.979 I mean, it's just a terrible situation that it goes around. 46:34.099 --> 46:42.021 I mean, it was hilarious, honestly, but obviously not a good thing to have out there that they have to deal with. 46:44.582 --> 46:55.105 Let's clarify here because I am very familiar with Conor Bedard and his family because I follow hockey pretty significantly. 46:56.025 --> 47:05.508 For the people who weren't, I had a friend who very loosely follows it, and I live in Illinois where the Blackhawks are unfortunately a large deal. 47:06.548 --> 47:11.350 And I had someone text me and goes, dude, what the hell? 47:11.510 --> 47:12.370 Is this legit? 47:13.516 --> 47:16.197 Like, I don't how the fuck am I supposed to know? 47:16.377 --> 47:16.557 Right. 47:16.657 --> 47:17.397 Like, I don't know. 47:18.078 --> 47:20.618 Just wait until, you know, the team announces something. 47:21.719 --> 47:28.121 And then he goes, obviously, and Googles Conor Bedard's mom and sends me a picture. 47:28.281 --> 47:30.982 And he goes, oh, I see why. 47:31.002 --> 47:31.222 Yeah. 47:32.648 --> 47:37.994 And I'm just thinking to myself at that point in time, I'm like, you bastard. 47:38.835 --> 47:45.363 But at the same point, I'm like, you know, this probably wouldn't be the story if she was an absolute ogre. 47:45.803 --> 47:46.524 Let's be honest. 47:46.785 --> 47:47.145 I mean, sure. 47:48.530 --> 48:08.196 Somebody same token added it somehow some asshole who wanted a few thousand more, you know, views or impressions to get their creator page monetized or something through that dumb ass story out there and lit everybody amok. 48:08.755 --> 48:09.075 It did. 48:09.576 --> 48:11.197 And it was for no good reason. 48:11.217 --> 48:12.017 Fire. 48:12.217 --> 48:12.597 Fire. 48:12.617 --> 48:14.478 Yeah, that was that was bad. 48:14.579 --> 48:15.119 Caught fire. 48:15.619 --> 48:19.001 And then and then Bedard had to answer to it. 48:19.081 --> 48:22.243 And the team got to be really bad. 48:22.583 --> 48:26.366 And finally, they had to come out and say, no, it's not has nothing to do with that. 48:28.447 --> 48:28.788 Yeah. 48:29.088 --> 48:32.972 In a conference that was really weird, a press conference where they came out. 48:33.032 --> 48:35.033 Did you guys actually watch that press conference? 48:35.294 --> 48:36.054 A little bit of it. 48:36.174 --> 48:36.955 And it was strange. 48:37.416 --> 48:37.776 Yeah. 48:38.036 --> 48:46.264 And Kyle Davidson, you know, gave everybody a nothing burger, made sure to say that it wasn't anything to do with a player or their families. 48:46.864 --> 48:52.709 And then when talking about the situation and his responsibility, basically started to cry. 48:53.604 --> 48:53.784 Right. 48:54.325 --> 49:00.829 And to be honest with you, I was like, I don't know about you, bro. 49:02.628 --> 49:09.730 but if I were in your shoes, I probably wouldn't be crying right now, but I would be horribly embarrassed. 49:09.830 --> 49:11.110 Like, why are you crying? 49:11.410 --> 49:12.470 Like, are you trying? 49:12.871 --> 49:14.311 Cause it's too much. 49:14.331 --> 49:19.292 Did your PR director tell you to like, if a crocodile cry. 49:19.332 --> 49:19.632 Yeah. 49:19.692 --> 49:24.573 But it, and, and the whole point of the Blackhawks have had several black marks against them. 49:25.213 --> 49:27.054 Like, this is just another thing that, 49:27.734 --> 49:31.976 that they probably all wanted to get past all their past issues. 49:32.156 --> 49:49.646 And now to have this, the other thing that kills me about this story is there's people immediately when his contract gets terminated, who goes, well, did they con, did they terminate his contract super early and without really great cause because of their track record in their history? 49:50.126 --> 49:55.389 I'm like, Jesus Christ, people, can you not just be happy with any right. 49:55.649 --> 49:57.050 If they do, they didn't, if they don't, 49:57.410 --> 49:58.190 A hundred percent. 49:58.530 --> 50:01.091 And like, God bless them. 50:01.351 --> 50:18.698 If you want to terminate a player's contract because they do something shitty within your organization, I feel like that should be within your bounds to terminate them from playing from your team and potentially paying them that money in that contract. 50:19.778 --> 50:22.339 Here's where I differ in where I start to stray. 50:23.735 --> 50:27.577 This is happening a lot for different reasons. 50:27.777 --> 50:37.142 There was the fellow on the Red Wings earlier this year, Philip Zedina, I believe, who terminated his contract and went to the Sharks. 50:37.543 --> 50:45.407 There's been a plethora of other players who terminated their contract and go to other North American leagues or go to Europe. 50:45.967 --> 50:46.288 To me... 50:47.288 --> 50:57.799 It feels like a really convenient way for teams to somewhat circumvent the cap and get rid of a player who's not going to be useful to them or that they have a way to get rid of. 50:57.819 --> 51:01.483 And they make an agreement and say, hey, terminate your contract so you can get out of here. 51:01.884 --> 51:04.186 They did not have to have Corey Perry agree. 51:04.847 --> 51:05.067 Right. 51:05.788 --> 51:06.869 That was not consensual. 51:06.889 --> 51:08.350 Interesting. 51:08.391 --> 51:08.791 Interesting. 51:09.127 --> 51:11.709 And we haven't heard anything about Perry or what's going on. 51:12.529 --> 51:21.715 I mean, he did come out a day or two after they terminated his contract and said that it was somewhere along the lines. 51:21.755 --> 51:31.001 He said it was an alcohol related incident, did some things he wasn't proud of, going to take some time to seek some assistance, et cetera. 51:31.762 --> 51:31.862 Hmm. 51:32.836 --> 51:33.296 Interesting. 51:33.956 --> 51:40.399 I wonder if he is out forever or the rest of the year or what would happen if anybody would touch him right now? 51:40.939 --> 51:41.419 I don't know. 51:41.599 --> 51:48.982 The vibe that I get from listening to people like Elliott Friedman, Frank Cervalli, Chris Johnston, folks like that speak about it. 51:50.563 --> 51:53.444 They all don't seem to think like this is the end of Corey Perry. 51:53.504 --> 51:58.426 They think that if he wants to play again, he's going to be able to play again, which makes me think that. 52:01.121 --> 52:08.303 Maybe I'm terrible for saying this, but it makes me think that this may be somewhat of an overreaction by the Blackhawks for what happened. 52:08.343 --> 52:09.363 Right, just because of their history. 52:09.624 --> 52:11.144 Did he do something that was bad? 52:12.104 --> 52:14.025 Obviously, yes, or we wouldn't be here. 52:14.105 --> 52:17.166 But in normal circumstance on, you know... 52:18.527 --> 52:19.668 The Arizona Coyotes. 52:19.748 --> 52:24.513 Is that player getting fired? 52:25.014 --> 52:27.316 Is it a cheat on your wife kind of thing bad? 52:27.436 --> 52:32.021 It doesn't sound like it's a sexual assault or a physical assault. 52:32.241 --> 52:33.563 They said it wasn't criminal. 52:33.883 --> 52:55.156 right so anything like that so that it's just you know i think it probably is um a little bit of an overreaction on their part and and it's warranted from all the heat and everything they've gotten that you know they had to kind of probably nip this in the bud before it got to a point where it was bigger but 52:56.823 --> 52:59.006 Here's my criticism for the Blackhawks in this. 52:59.086 --> 52:59.347 Yes. 52:59.407 --> 53:08.079 But if you wanted to nip it in the bud and get ahead of it, why is absolutely everything around this a fucking secret? 53:08.159 --> 53:10.202 So nobody knows what actually happened. 53:10.242 --> 53:11.143 Well, I mean, that's true. 53:11.163 --> 53:12.806 Create your reaction, right? 53:13.586 --> 53:20.052 You keeping it a secret is what caused the Kyle Beach scenario in the situation there. 53:20.072 --> 53:22.033 We're doing the same thing again. 53:22.053 --> 53:32.021 The only thing that I can think of that would make it that way is that the victim, whatever the case may be, whatever happened, maybe didn't want it to happen. 53:33.682 --> 53:40.269 Yeah, I know, but then the public's going to be looking and digging into Jane Doe then. 53:40.289 --> 53:41.470 Who is Jane Doe? 53:41.530 --> 53:42.611 Who is Jane Doe? 53:42.631 --> 53:46.215 And then the press is trying to find out who it is, and then there's a whole thing. 53:46.235 --> 53:49.238 So I think that's the only counter I would say. 53:49.438 --> 53:55.804 They gave enough clues where if you were hard up to try, you could find out. 53:56.664 --> 54:00.647 I just don't understand why it never went any further. 54:00.747 --> 54:04.410 Like it, it just, we haven't heard anything about it since like nothing. 54:04.450 --> 54:08.493 There was no, probably because it wasn't criminal that there really wasn't. 54:08.793 --> 54:15.959 No, it was probably, you know, he did on his wife with somebody or, you know, advance at somebody. 54:16.199 --> 54:19.882 And I mean, the cheating on the wife stuff happens, I would say on every team, probably. 54:19.902 --> 54:20.903 Yeah, probably. 54:20.923 --> 54:21.003 Yeah. 54:21.523 --> 54:22.504 Let's be honest here. 54:22.804 --> 54:26.127 The black Hawks in the NHL probably gave the, 54:28.863 --> 54:58.392 look to all the reporters in the nhl and they said all right we're done with this story on to the next one yeah maybe they just let it go yeah uh and i could see perry like coming back and playing with like tampa bay or dallas like latching on with a team that's you know a contender for the cup that he but here's my question that he's had experience with yeah then no yeah since you guys are the boston bruins gurus here 54:59.909 --> 55:21.315 How does this Corey Perry non-criminal situation and contract termination sit with you in your opinions with the Milan Lucic domestic abuse allegations, criminal trial happening, stepping away from the team, still under contract with the Boston Bruins? 55:21.335 --> 55:23.036 I would have let him go. 55:23.056 --> 55:23.936 Yeah, I would have. 55:24.724 --> 55:25.044 Me too. 55:25.184 --> 55:25.804 I would have let him go. 55:25.824 --> 55:27.265 I would have terminated his contract. 55:27.285 --> 55:35.786 I mean, cause obviously, obviously there was criminal activity there because he, he went, even though he pleaded not guilty, there's still, there's a, there's a trial. 55:35.806 --> 55:38.727 There's, there's a whole incident that's documented. 55:39.367 --> 55:40.447 Everybody knows the details. 55:42.088 --> 55:43.068 It's happened once before. 55:43.688 --> 55:43.888 Right. 55:43.968 --> 55:44.468 Correct. 55:44.888 --> 55:52.090 If you know what the details are and those are the details you can, you can make your own decision on it and he should have been let go. 55:53.044 --> 55:56.110 I think, I mean, I think, I think he should have been let go and, um, 55:58.499 --> 56:00.299 I don't think the Bruins handled that well. 56:00.319 --> 56:03.880 I don't think they handled the Mitchell. 56:04.140 --> 56:04.600 Is it Mitchell? 56:04.860 --> 56:06.281 Mitchell Miller. 56:07.261 --> 56:10.001 And I thought he'd be gone because of the Mitchell Miller thing. 56:10.041 --> 56:15.762 I thought that they would let him go and act swiftly because of how they bungled the Miller thing. 56:16.003 --> 56:17.183 Now, here's a question for you. 56:17.283 --> 56:19.043 Would you take Corey Perry on the Bruins? 56:19.963 --> 56:20.303 I would. 56:20.323 --> 56:25.484 Because there's no criminal activity in light of the Lou Cheech and Mitchell Miller things. 56:25.925 --> 56:28.045 Is that something you'd be willing to do? 56:28.465 --> 56:31.226 I would, and I think Perry would be a decent fit for the Bruins. 56:31.426 --> 56:31.866 I agree 100%. 56:31.966 --> 56:35.987 Why do you want to have two grease fires in your house at the same time? 56:36.727 --> 56:45.408 That's to me that if you can't say in one breath that one's not criminal and one's criminal and then say they're both grease fires, because that's not the case. 56:45.729 --> 56:48.229 I mean, he is, if it's not criminal. 56:48.249 --> 56:51.990 You are still going to face a PR nightmare, no matter what. 56:52.010 --> 56:52.550 Would you though? 56:53.450 --> 56:54.190 I don't know. 56:54.350 --> 56:58.892 I think there's going to be, I mean, no matter what the percentage is. 56:59.232 --> 57:01.333 They haven't said, no one said anything about it. 57:01.513 --> 57:03.014 He's just sitting there on IR. 57:03.334 --> 57:03.974 Like, you know what? 57:04.014 --> 57:04.934 They haven't let him go. 57:04.954 --> 57:06.675 No one's questioned it. 57:06.855 --> 57:10.076 No one's mentioned it in weeks now. 57:10.156 --> 57:17.499 But do you remember what happened with the Mitchell Miller situation where they got butchered for three to four days and then nobody heard about it. 57:17.759 --> 57:21.981 And then randomly in the middle of the summer, they got sewered again for a week. 57:22.441 --> 57:34.991 it won't be that because it's not it's not criminal and what mitchell miller did is different than you know yeah i feel like there's going to be a group of people out there 57:36.067 --> 57:55.220 no matter how big or small that will harp on, you know, whatever he did and we'll bang that drum and let's face it, you know, those type of headlines get a lot more traction, you know, on the internet and a lot more clicks and that shit spreads like wildfire. 57:55.580 --> 57:59.444 To me, as long as it's not criminal, I don't have a problem with it. 57:59.464 --> 58:03.168 If it's an alcohol thing, your head coach was an alcoholic who got fired. 58:03.548 --> 58:05.630 I mean, yeah, his life around. 58:05.750 --> 58:10.355 So if Corey Perry, you know, had an alcohol related something or other, he could spot help. 58:10.635 --> 58:15.118 and he's fine now, and it wasn't a criminal activity, I don't have any problem with him being on the Bruins. 58:15.158 --> 58:17.560 And they could spin it as Monty went through the same thing. 58:17.600 --> 58:24.844 He could spin a fourth-line role that Lucic was supposed to have, and he has more talent than Lucic does, and he's one of the cops. 58:24.904 --> 58:30.408 If you terminate Lucic and then sign Perry, then it's best of both worlds. 58:30.448 --> 58:32.730 You've terminated Lucic because of... 58:33.570 --> 58:35.451 Because you should think you should. 58:35.471 --> 58:43.476 And you sign Perry like it takes some of the steam of signing Perry and keeping Lucic because that that I guess I could see. 58:43.837 --> 58:45.818 But I would sign Perry. 58:46.158 --> 58:52.022 Well, I mean, it's not criminal and not everybody believes in matrimony. 58:53.134 --> 58:57.416 Like not everybody believes in that type of stuff. 58:57.536 --> 59:00.997 And I will say that we don't actually know what happened. 59:01.097 --> 59:08.400 So I will always leave the wiggle room to say that he could have done something really fucked up and maybe not. 59:08.920 --> 59:09.560 It could have been. 59:09.740 --> 59:12.921 But again, if it's not a criminal, then where do you start? 59:16.001 --> 59:20.106 How do you evaluate being real about this right now? 59:20.126 --> 59:20.206 Yeah. 59:21.147 --> 59:30.119 I mean, it's hard to say, it's hard to say because at the end of the day, some people believe like many just said, a crime is a crime. 59:30.829 --> 59:39.658 And another act that's not a crime can be up for interpretation of what, how, how serious it is or how much people really care. 59:39.678 --> 59:40.539 Yeah. 59:40.579 --> 59:42.781 I think, I think he's going to play again for sure. 59:42.801 --> 59:48.127 I think it's going to be on a team that is in a smaller media market for somebody like the Bruins. 59:48.727 --> 59:50.108 It is not worth it. 59:50.149 --> 59:52.491 They are one of the biggest media markets in the NHL. 59:52.511 --> 59:53.011 And again, 59:54.733 --> 59:58.095 You know, you've already had the hot potato of Mitchell Miller. 59:58.595 --> 01:00:01.517 You had the recent hot potato of Milan Lucic. 01:00:02.197 --> 01:00:05.158 Yeah, maybe Corey Perry could help your team out. 01:00:05.219 --> 01:00:10.301 But at the same time, what's the point of risking another one? 01:00:10.941 --> 01:00:12.963 Yeah, if I'm in Arizona, I'd pick him up. 01:00:13.463 --> 01:00:13.823 Yeah. 01:00:14.043 --> 01:00:15.824 You could be a veteran with those young guys. 01:00:15.844 --> 01:00:16.644 Yeah, exactly. 01:00:16.664 --> 01:00:19.106 I mean, I would. 01:00:19.346 --> 01:00:21.247 No one gives a rat's ass. 01:00:21.960 --> 01:00:31.468 Yeah, I mean, Arizona would be a pretty good fit, I think, for him because it's a smaller market and they're pushing for the playoffs. 01:00:31.488 --> 01:00:32.329 He could add something there. 01:00:32.629 --> 01:00:40.976 Or go play for somebody like Lou Amorello, who's one of the strictest managers to work under. 01:00:41.356 --> 01:00:44.959 Yeah, I mean, there's a bunch of places he could go that I think he'd be fine. 01:00:45.019 --> 01:00:48.162 I mean, he's... He's an NHL vet. 01:00:48.222 --> 01:00:49.343 He's got a lot of cups. 01:00:49.463 --> 01:00:49.703 He's... 01:00:51.124 --> 01:00:53.326 I mean, I think he would help anywhere he was. 01:00:53.506 --> 01:00:56.668 I'm sure Anaheim would take him back in a heartbeat. 01:00:57.449 --> 01:00:58.870 Yeah, Anaheim would take him back. 01:00:58.930 --> 01:01:00.711 I think Tampa Bay would take him back. 01:01:00.771 --> 01:01:05.634 I think, you know, where else was I thinking? 01:01:05.654 --> 01:01:08.696 He played in Dallas, didn't he? 01:01:08.856 --> 01:01:09.537 Dallas, right. 01:01:09.657 --> 01:01:11.218 Dallas was the other place I was thinking. 01:01:11.418 --> 01:01:12.359 Dallas is another one. 01:01:13.340 --> 01:01:15.181 I think all those places would take him back. 01:01:15.481 --> 01:01:17.983 I think any of them would be happy to have him. 01:01:18.680 --> 01:01:22.322 Yeah, I mean, he had four goals and five assists at nine points. 01:01:23.202 --> 01:01:29.726 He played for Anaheim, Dallas, Montreal for a year in Tampa Bay. 01:01:30.246 --> 01:01:31.267 I forgot about Montreal. 01:01:32.427 --> 01:01:33.488 Montreal one year. 01:01:33.508 --> 01:01:36.089 Damn, the little worm gets around. 01:01:36.369 --> 01:01:38.070 Two years ago, he had 19 goals. 01:01:38.590 --> 01:01:38.811 Yeah. 01:01:39.111 --> 01:01:41.552 So, I mean, I still feel like he could help somebody. 01:01:44.393 --> 01:01:47.095 Honestly, I think he would be a pretty good fit for the Bruins on the fourth line. 01:01:47.115 --> 01:01:47.195 Yeah. 01:01:47.831 --> 01:01:48.651 I think he would, too. 01:01:48.951 --> 01:01:50.812 I mean, I'd take a stab at him. 01:01:51.692 --> 01:01:54.193 All right, Detroit, here's our last one. 01:01:54.213 --> 01:01:55.773 Speaking of veteran fits here. 01:01:55.793 --> 01:02:05.755 They took a stab at a veteran, Patrick Kane, who in two games has a goal and is a minus three and scored the lone goal in a 5-1 loss to Ottawa. 01:02:07.916 --> 01:02:09.096 What do you believe? 01:02:09.136 --> 01:02:11.157 How does this impact their season goals? 01:02:11.257 --> 01:02:16.558 I think it doesn't in the grand scheme of things get them over any type of hump. 01:02:17.475 --> 01:02:22.042 I think it's a flashy move that doesn't have a lot of substance. 01:02:22.737 --> 01:02:24.358 I agree with you 100%. 01:02:24.918 --> 01:02:27.940 I don't think he really is going to add anything to the table. 01:02:28.940 --> 01:02:34.743 We've talked about it before, but guys coming off this particular surgery are not good when they come back. 01:02:34.943 --> 01:02:37.004 They're just not, they don't produce at all. 01:02:37.024 --> 01:02:41.467 Or they play a few games and then that's it. 01:02:41.647 --> 01:02:49.291 I think the guy who's had the most impact coming back from this was like, and he played like 52 games and had 27 points. 01:02:49.351 --> 01:02:49.811 And that was it. 01:02:50.231 --> 01:02:52.212 Didn't Brad Marchand have the same exact surgery? 01:02:52.232 --> 01:02:52.532 No. 01:02:52.552 --> 01:02:53.173 Hip resurfacing? 01:02:54.594 --> 01:02:54.734 No. 01:02:54.794 --> 01:02:54.974 No. 01:02:55.594 --> 01:02:56.455 Not resurfacing. 01:02:56.715 --> 01:02:57.916 He didn't have the resurfacing. 01:02:57.956 --> 01:02:59.196 What did he have? 01:02:59.216 --> 01:03:02.498 He had double hip procedures, but it wasn't resurfacing. 01:03:02.538 --> 01:03:06.381 It was something else. 01:03:06.541 --> 01:03:10.223 All the guys who had the resurfacing, it just hasn't. 01:03:11.226 --> 01:03:29.039 taken they they're just not the same player when they come back uh and he might be good and he'll be on a line with the brinket and they'll probably score some goals but he was bad defensively before and he's going to be worse now so um a red wings team that kind of prides himself on on defense um 01:03:30.668 --> 01:03:34.910 I just don't think that he's going to be the answer for them. 01:03:34.950 --> 01:03:36.010 I think Matt's right. 01:03:36.030 --> 01:03:39.852 I think it's a splashy move that's not going to really do much. 01:03:39.992 --> 01:03:43.854 You also have to look at it in some other scenarios here, right? 01:03:43.954 --> 01:03:47.715 So like on ice, off ice, front office. 01:03:48.355 --> 01:03:50.116 On the ice, is he going to help the team? 01:03:50.196 --> 01:03:51.437 Is he going to score goals? 01:03:51.677 --> 01:03:52.117 Yeah. 01:03:52.517 --> 01:03:57.779 Is he going to be a veteran presence that's going to help a lot of those young players win and learn how to win? 01:03:58.459 --> 01:03:59.860 Yeah, he's probably going to do that. 01:04:01.555 --> 01:04:05.636 In the off-the-ice section, he's going to sell a shitload of jerseys. 01:04:06.016 --> 01:04:07.477 So you're going to make your money back. 01:04:07.537 --> 01:04:12.478 He's making, what, $275 on the salary cap? 01:04:12.498 --> 01:04:13.878 And then in the front office, right? 01:04:14.338 --> 01:04:19.920 So you bring him in this year, sign him for the rest of the season, and you already have... 01:04:20.802 --> 01:04:22.323 a handshake agreement with him. 01:04:22.384 --> 01:04:31.973 He's got a no movement clause with the understanding that if you are not in the playoff hunt by the trade deadline, that you're going to look to move him again. 01:04:32.133 --> 01:04:36.497 He's going to have some say in where he goes and you're going to recoup some assets. 01:04:37.818 --> 01:04:40.781 And I think that playing on a line with Debrinket and, 01:04:41.756 --> 01:04:45.280 and Joe Valeno is probably going to score him some points. 01:04:46.001 --> 01:05:01.658 If Dylan Larkin comes back from this injury that we'll probably talk about in a few minutes, he could probably put up a whole lot more and either A, drive them into a playoff spot, or B, get them a pretty good trade asset at the deadline and move them somewhere else. 01:05:02.319 --> 01:05:03.039 I think he's cashed. 01:05:04.895 --> 01:05:07.076 I think he's still got some life left. 01:05:07.136 --> 01:05:10.698 I think he didn't do much of anything for the Rangers in the playoffs last year. 01:05:10.718 --> 01:05:12.679 I think he's much of the same now. 01:05:12.699 --> 01:05:14.419 And that's where they claimed he was still injured. 01:05:14.439 --> 01:05:16.921 I just don't see it. 01:05:17.601 --> 01:05:18.201 I don't see it. 01:05:18.381 --> 01:05:20.862 And it's already two games in, he's minus three. 01:05:21.563 --> 01:05:22.363 I just don't see it. 01:05:23.363 --> 01:05:25.204 I just don't see it happening for them. 01:05:25.584 --> 01:05:26.365 And you know what? 01:05:26.405 --> 01:05:27.505 I hope it doesn't happen either. 01:05:27.905 --> 01:05:30.006 It just doesn't. 01:05:30.086 --> 01:05:30.927 It shouldn't. 01:05:32.087 --> 01:05:32.547 It shouldn't. 01:05:34.128 --> 01:05:36.450 it shouldn't be the type of move that puts them over. 01:05:36.890 --> 01:05:39.472 It's such a, it's such a hollow move to me. 01:05:39.512 --> 01:05:47.218 They're still looking to add there, you know, they're in on the Noah Hannafin sweepstakes allegedly, you know, so they've got room to improve. 01:05:47.238 --> 01:05:50.741 They still have a shitload of cap space, unlike most other contenders. 01:05:51.381 --> 01:05:51.901 So yeah, 01:05:52.822 --> 01:05:53.363 You never know. 01:05:53.563 --> 01:06:01.089 They might be able to hustle and shake and move some more pieces and add significant bodies to this team. 01:06:01.929 --> 01:06:03.811 Imagine that if they did get a Noah Hannafin. 01:06:03.851 --> 01:06:06.033 That's another significant add to that team. 01:06:07.011 --> 01:06:07.191 Right. 01:06:07.371 --> 01:06:07.571 Yeah. 01:06:07.651 --> 01:06:08.571 I mean, that's different. 01:06:08.611 --> 01:06:09.172 That's different. 01:06:09.452 --> 01:06:10.232 He will help them. 01:06:10.312 --> 01:06:10.512 Right. 01:06:10.692 --> 01:06:11.472 Well, he'll help them. 01:06:11.552 --> 01:06:14.333 He's 26 years old and he's 26. 01:06:14.993 --> 01:06:21.755 Patrick Dean is, you know, so if they add all these other pieces and we say, oh, Patrick Kane helped him get to the playoffs. 01:06:21.815 --> 01:06:23.075 It's not because of Patrick Kane. 01:06:23.115 --> 01:06:24.736 It's because of all the other pieces they added. 01:06:24.756 --> 01:06:24.896 Right. 01:06:25.856 --> 01:06:27.837 I mean, yeah, but look at what they're bringing him in. 01:06:27.958 --> 01:06:29.178 Like he's an older player. 01:06:29.218 --> 01:06:30.719 He's making real small money. 01:06:30.979 --> 01:06:40.965 Like it is obvious that they're not bringing him in to help Dylan Larkin and Alex to bring it, you know, unlock their. 01:06:41.778 --> 01:07:06.383 inner you you know no he is there to be with them and to be a scoring presence they are going to set him up and leave him wide open because they are the younger better players and he will benefit by being the assumed older slower player in my opinion i hear here's my prediction he doesn't make it through the season he gets injured again and he's gone 01:07:07.222 --> 01:07:36.894 maddie hot takes so i'm actually i just looked up the hip resurfacing thing and they were talking about ed jovanovsky who got it in 2014 he played 37 games and then quit uh and they said before nick backstrom he was the most successful return from hip hip resurfacing surgery in the nhl prior to that so 37 games and then he quit was the most successful one prior to backstrom who played now done 01:07:37.114 --> 01:07:51.721 too right and backstrom's out again after he played either 47 or 52 games or something like that so it's it's it's not a surgery you really come back from and if he does i have to do some pecking around if he does good for him but 01:07:53.181 --> 01:07:54.921 it's, it's just, I think he's cashed. 01:07:55.101 --> 01:07:55.682 I really do. 01:07:55.982 --> 01:08:03.683 And I think, you know, he, he's not gonna, he'll score some goals, I think, because they'll, he'll be out there on the power play and he still has a great shot. 01:08:04.003 --> 01:08:06.183 He doesn't have to move really when he's on the power play. 01:08:06.704 --> 01:08:08.764 So, um, he'll get his points. 01:08:09.364 --> 01:08:11.404 The Red Wings have, you know, good talent around them. 01:08:11.885 --> 01:08:15.245 Um, but when it comes to playing five on five, terrible. 01:08:16.405 --> 01:08:19.686 So Dylan Larkin's out now with his injury, he'll be out. 01:08:20.868 --> 01:08:22.792 Well, probably for a significant time. 01:08:22.832 --> 01:08:25.557 They say at least a week, but it'd probably be longer than that. 01:08:25.838 --> 01:08:28.403 Did they say what the injury was or just like upper body injury? 01:08:28.874 --> 01:08:29.194 Yeah. 01:08:29.214 --> 01:08:34.656 I think they said upper body was, I mean, is it, I mean, concussion symptoms probably. 01:08:34.676 --> 01:08:35.656 I think it's concussion. 01:08:35.876 --> 01:08:35.976 Yeah. 01:08:35.996 --> 01:08:37.437 I'm pretty sure it's concussion. 01:08:39.017 --> 01:08:41.078 Like a two hander to the side of the head or whatever. 01:08:41.098 --> 01:08:41.258 Right. 01:08:41.298 --> 01:08:41.498 Right. 01:08:41.518 --> 01:08:41.858 He did. 01:08:42.058 --> 01:08:42.278 Yeah. 01:08:42.758 --> 01:08:43.979 Are you talking about Trent Frederick? 01:08:45.379 --> 01:08:45.699 Oh no. 01:08:45.779 --> 01:08:46.319 Dylan Larkin. 01:08:46.439 --> 01:08:46.720 Okay. 01:08:46.780 --> 01:08:47.020 Yeah. 01:08:47.040 --> 01:08:47.460 Yeah. 01:08:48.420 --> 01:08:49.280 So Larkin's out. 01:08:49.320 --> 01:08:53.402 So that's a big loss because Larkin and Debrinket had some really good chemistry there. 01:08:54.302 --> 01:08:54.382 Um, 01:08:54.980 --> 01:08:59.224 You know, I know Detroit Detroit's pretty good, but this is a loss for them. 01:08:59.244 --> 01:09:00.185 It'll be interesting. 01:09:00.225 --> 01:09:03.609 Did you see the second half of that Dylan Larkin altercation? 01:09:05.379 --> 01:09:06.320 No, I don't think I saw that. 01:09:06.340 --> 01:09:08.502 That's where David Perron got suspended. 01:09:08.722 --> 01:09:09.863 Oh, Perron got suspended. 01:09:09.924 --> 01:09:18.852 When Dylan Larkin's basically laying down Patrick Starr on the ice and Artem Zub is, I believe it's Artem Zub, it's right behind him. 01:09:18.872 --> 01:09:22.816 And everybody's got their arms up yelling for the trainers. 01:09:23.417 --> 01:09:28.622 And here comes David Perron and just cross checks him right across the face, man. 01:09:28.722 --> 01:09:28.922 Yeah. 01:09:29.362 --> 01:09:29.543 Yeah. 01:09:29.583 --> 01:09:29.743 Like. 01:09:30.023 --> 01:09:30.263 Yeah. 01:09:30.323 --> 01:09:32.664 I'm not a big fan of Dave Ron, honestly. 01:09:32.684 --> 01:09:38.866 I think he's one of those kind of rat players, you know, always has been with the, with the tent advisor. 01:09:38.946 --> 01:09:40.427 He looks like a little rat out there. 01:09:40.667 --> 01:09:41.207 I can't stand. 01:09:41.247 --> 01:09:42.068 Yeah. 01:09:42.368 --> 01:09:43.208 Old grinder. 01:09:43.228 --> 01:09:45.509 He's not an overly respected player. 01:09:46.849 --> 01:09:49.850 Well, he's, he was on some of those blues teams that were. 01:09:49.870 --> 01:09:50.831 Oh yeah. 01:09:50.871 --> 01:09:53.732 History of being a little over the line over the edge. 01:09:53.752 --> 01:09:53.832 Yeah. 01:09:53.852 --> 01:09:55.773 And on the blues three different times, I believe. 01:09:56.113 --> 01:09:56.333 Yeah. 01:09:56.353 --> 01:09:56.453 Yeah. 01:09:57.614 --> 01:09:59.034 Yeah, Larkin's out for a while. 01:09:59.414 --> 01:10:00.535 So we'll see. 01:10:01.355 --> 01:10:02.355 We'll see how that happens. 01:10:02.395 --> 01:10:03.615 But Perron's out six games. 01:10:03.935 --> 01:10:04.475 Suspension. 01:10:05.555 --> 01:10:06.116 So he's done. 01:10:07.276 --> 01:10:07.696 You know what? 01:10:07.776 --> 01:10:08.316 So are we. 01:10:09.456 --> 01:10:12.217 I was going to say, man, we are actually going long. 01:10:12.317 --> 01:10:13.117 Holy Moses. 01:10:13.157 --> 01:10:13.637 We did. 01:10:13.717 --> 01:10:15.497 Yeah, I think that'll do it. 01:10:15.517 --> 01:10:20.678 Time to cue the music like we're playing in the Grammys or something like that. 01:10:20.758 --> 01:10:21.178 Let's get that. 01:10:22.459 --> 01:10:24.119 Shut the fuck up with your speech. 01:10:24.219 --> 01:10:24.939 We're leaving. 01:10:25.538 --> 01:10:25.882 Yeah. 01:10:26.003 --> 01:10:26.995 Thanks a lot. 01:10:27.076 --> 01:10:27.521 Bye-bye.