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Welcome to Tactically Acquired
Our goal is to document military connected living history in a fun and easy environment. We will capture the stories of our active duty, guard, reservists, veterans, ROTC and their families. Sharing their stories, adventures, and journeys across the military life cycle.
The podcast is for anyone interested in joining the military, has been a part of the military, or who wishes to learn more about military life. In addition, we want to bridge the growing military-civilian divide through education.
This is “unfiltered” meaning we will go over the good, the bad, and yes, maybe even the ugly of being a military connected individual.
This is from Northern Kentucky University’s Veterans Resource Station in partnership with the Department of History. Produced by Professor Kevin Eagles.
Show Notes:
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Department of History: https://inside.nku.edu/artsci/departments/history.html
Music by Scott Buckley – www.scottbuckley.com.au
Welcome to Tactically Acquired. Our goal is to document military connected living history in a fun and easy environment. We will capture the stories of our active duty, guard, reservists, veterans, ROTC, and their families, sharing their stories, adventures, and journeys across the military life cycle. The podcast is for anyone interested in joining the military, has been part of the military, or wishes to learn more about military life. In addition, we want to bridge the growing military civilian divide through education.
Rusty Mardis:This is unfiltered, meaning we'll go over the good, the bad, and yes, maybe even the ugly of being a military connected individual. I'm your host, Rusty Martis, a retired Air Force Mustang and OEF veteran, and I run the Veterans Resource Station at North Kentucky University. Welcome to another edition of Tackle Acquired. Now, on this episode is the final episode with doctor Tom Eagles. Again, fortunate enough to have our producer, Professor Kevin Eagles, here with us.
Rusty Mardis:Man, I just gotta say, wow. You know, that first episode was really awesome. And then we get into the second episode with some amazing stories. He really gets in-depth with some of his time in Vietnam. And then, of course, we go into this final piece of the story.
Rusty Mardis:Do you have any kind of last thoughts as we get into it?
Kevin Eagles:Yeah. I wanted to take an opportunity to thank you and the Veterans Resource Station here at NKU, to allow this to happen. As I said previously, right, this this episode or this oral history had been sitting in a desk, since my father's passing in June 2016. And with these episodes airing, it is going to be the first time for several family members to actually listen to this oral history. When my father was alive, he hadn't told anyone except my mom who was in the interview Mhmm.
Kevin Eagles:That he was doing it. So it was kind of a surprise. And I know that I already have a few aunts and uncles on my mother's side who have listened to it. And it is my hope that my father's, one of his best friends, certainly from the war, who he had kept contact with his whole life, a gentleman by the name of Aubrey Nabb, will get a chance to listen to this as well. As I said, you know, my father passed in June, 02/2016, but Aubrey is still alive and well and, I hope that he'll have the opportunity to listen to this.
Kevin Eagles:Yeah. It's just, you know, thinking about mister Nab, after my father had passed, he had helped my mom navigate the Veterans Administration to make sure he got paid.
Tom Eagles:Mhmm.
Kevin Eagles:And two, I wanted to point out as well is that, you know, during the war, my father and mister Nab were part of the same village assistance team. And one day, mister Nab was just walking down the village street when a North Vietnamese infiltrator had come into the village and tried to execute Aubrey by shooting him in the heart. Wow. Luckily, he missed and just grazed his heart, and my father was able to get there in time to save him. And I I think that part of my father giving this oral history was for the eventual benefit of Mr.
Kevin Eagles:Nab, to memorialize their experiences in the war.
Rusty Mardis:Yeah. Well, that's one of the reasons we started this podcast, was to really share these living histories, because everybody has a story to tell. When you start talking about some the Vietnam vets, and you get into some of these combat stories and war stories, America, many of them don't have a clue about what happened and what's going on, and this is just a great avenue to help share and showcase those stories, the good, the bad, the ugly, as we said, right? And for others to enjoy them as well, or learn from them, I should say.
Kevin Eagles:Right. Now, I can take a moment to valorize the show, and that is that it is so important for the general public, right, and for the student body here at the university to to understand through the lives and experiences of our student service members and veterans, what they went through and what this country does for their benefit every day. I I think that all too often, we civilians, we tend to forget, the sacrifices that are happening around us every single day and that your show, by highlighting and valorizing and memorializing that, is super important. I'm really not only happy, but very proud to be a part of that.
Rusty Mardis:Well, we thank you for all you do, and especially as a producer and setting this up and getting everything squared away and working the behind the scenes activities in a lot of ways. But that's, to your point, most, we know that there's a big and growing military civilian divide because we don't need as many military as we did back in the day of World I and World War II, and it continues to shrink and shrink and shrink, and a lot of times, as that occurs, a lot of, or I'll just say less attention is paid to those sacrifices that are from the military, and the veterans, and their family members that went through. So sharing the stories is a true honor, and your dad and everything he accomplished during the time when America, quite frankly, a lot of folks, they didn't get the welcome that they deserved when they got back, And so being able to share his story and those that he was involved with around is a true honor for all of us. So thank you so much for sharing your dad's story, being a part of it, and your family as well.
Rusty Mardis:I say we get into it, and let's get this done, right? I'm excited to see what happens in
Kevin Eagles:the Yeah, final Right, yeah, me as well. All right, thank you. Thank you.
Tom Eagles:With a wood and made charcoal out of it. So everybody cooked off that charcoal including we had drying huts about the size of this. They'd make charcoal and they'd just cover the whole floor with charcoal. And just
Oral Historian:have it going all the time?
Tom Eagles:Yeah and then they take our clothing and there's no electricity or dryers, they take our clothing and hang it on bamboo poles down there over the fire and that's how they go because it's a rainy season I mean.
Katie Womble:You want dry clothes.
Tom Eagles:Yeah. And and how else will they dry? The problem is that that charcoal off gassed the the pyrote the psychogenic and it got into our clothing and the according to the VA and the FDA and the CDC my portal of entry was my lymph system. That's how I ended up getting the Agent Orange. But we thought it was great, you know, and we never realized, you know, what it did.
Tom Eagles:Since I've been back there the area that I was in was a there was two districts Quonshuin and Kangzhou and now they've Quonshuin is gone as far as a name that they It's not all Kanjo but on the Southern of Kanjo now they have a huge reforestation project and a huge laboratory studying the effects and the mitigating of the
Katie Womble:The effects of So Agent did you just suspect that it was causing problems in '71
Oral Historian:or I
Tom Eagles:didn't really suspect it. I never even thought
Katie Womble:about When you were taking the Rand
Tom Eagles:Well, they did. Somebody did, but we never thought about it. You know? You know, we were just very, oh, okay. Good.
Tom Eagles:The trees are gone. Gives the bad guys less area to hide in. You know? Maybe it wasn't.
Katie Womble:This was when the government used to spray DEET on people in The United States.
Tom Eagles:DEET was good too. Mean, got the bugs, got the bugs, because bugs just drive you nuts.
Katie Womble:I mean, I was in Mississippi once and I was happy for it, the DEET truck to come by even though I knew.
Tom Eagles:Well, were when we lived in Cuba, Karen and I lived in Cuba, they used to have Smokey Joe would go through all the areas every day and, you know, here comes Smokey and they'd smoke up the whole area and, you know, to all the bugs. Mhmm.
Katie Womble:I actually do want to move on to talking about Guantanamo, your time there. Do you have any questions about Vietnam that I missed? No. No? Sitting back?
Oral Historian:More respect for you every day because I got shot in the butt too, so
Tom Eagles:we ended up taking it down. Maggie and ass.
Oral Historian:Poofy cushion.
Katie Womble:So what years were you stationed in Guantanamo?
Tom Eagles:Caroline left Vietnam in '73, the other in '77.
Oral Historian:Okay.
Tom Eagles:Got down there I was E6, we checked in you know this is not my area you know. So the personnel officer got a job for Eagles you know he's a personnel officer and I'm an E6, yes sir. He says you're going to base police shore patrol. I said okay, so shore patrol I'll be a medical guy means I will go down to shore patrol and be the medical guy, take care of the sailors and get beat up or drunk or fall in the water you know. Well I got down there and said oh no no you're never a hard hat.
Tom Eagles:Going back to the August it was a Navy regulation so that medics can't do this this or that you know and that's one of them.
Katie Womble:You can't wear a hard hat?
Tom Eagles:You can't be a patrolman you're supposed to you know you're supposed to be non violent non combatant you know. So the soldier said, Bullshit, he said, You're, you're, you put that, you're, you're a hard hat. So they gave me a stick and a hard hat and a batard and for about three weeks I rode the buses and they would bring the the ships into Guantanamo and there's a place called Miles Square and they had an EM club up there and they'd take them all up there and they'd play baseball and anything else and then they get drunk and they put them back in a boat.
Katie Womble:So this was an R and R spot for folks?
Tom Eagles:Oh No. It was a training area and I mean it was an intense training area. I mean, all kinds of ships were in there. They do training refresher training, you know, amphibious, not the ASW.
Oral Historian:Any submarine warfare?
Tom Eagles:Any submarine warfare, all that stuff they do that and then of course they anchor the bay and then all go ashore and have fun and go back to ship next day and go out and train. And my job was to get them from the ship, the fleet landing up to the club and back and if they're drunk put them on the bus and fight your way out and off the bus. So I did this for about three weeks and, know, okay. I mean, Donald you were what what rank were you down? Lieutenant commander.
Tom Eagles:Oh, you know, he told you that you had to do what you're doing, you know.
Oral Historian:That was a good one too.
Tom Eagles:So I did that and then one day the chief says, hey, the admiral wants to see is the admiral named Ralph Gormley and you know, I don't know, I'm an E6 and he's up there. So I went off to his office and said what are you doing there? I said sir the person in office sent me and he said no. I called you, I have you done or something else. Yes sir, know you're standing there you know.
Tom Eagles:I didn't hang around with generalists so much. I mean, I was here. He was a very nice man, said, but I got a job for me. Said, you're you're gonna build me, run me a veterinary clinic because I had animal experience. I learned how to tranquilize elements.
Tom Eagles:I learned how to.
Oral Historian:You learned that in Vietnam or in one of your medical courses?
Tom Eagles:No. The medical course with special forces you learn how to work on people while working on dogs. Don't tell PATA but that's what you did. And then because I was going out to the second time they sent me over to Cornell University to learn about pigs and chickens and then because we had elephants they said, yeah, I went to San Diego Zoo and learned how to tranquilize elephants, they could airlift them. So that's my experience.
Tom Eagles:So he says you're the new vet. Well they had an old beautiful old man Doctor. Barnes, Jamaican black Jamaican cuban and he was way beyond his prime and he was running it. He said you gotta take the doc and fix it up you know. Yes sir, you know.
Tom Eagles:So he said whatever you need you got it. So I went down the old corral where doc had his place and he had a place probably about as long as this about a third of the width, that was his vet clinic and it was a mess, you know. And he did a lot of, I won't say he's a witch doctor but you know he was Jamaican Cuban and got in there and he was real nice you know, you know a young pup and he was in the eighties and the first day the admiral's wife comes there and got after him about cleaning the place up, he's down here now and Mrs. Grodner's real nice but she was the admiral's wife, you know. Okay.
Tom Eagles:So doc got mad at her and I'm gonna tell you I mean, I'm a quote here, he says, God damn alone, go get a rag and fuck a sea turtle. Oh, holy shit. I'm sorry and she left. I mean my heart says oh my god. So about half a later the phone rings, Darcy's for you, Pedestrian is almogronly, what happened?
Tom Eagles:I said well your wife got out here and got after dark about cleaning up, okay, then what happened? So they got mad, what did he say? I'd rather not say sir. He said damn it doc, what did he say? So I told him you know and I mean I'm telling you, mean I wouldn't tell that to him you know and he's a lieutenant commander this is an admiral.
Tom Eagles:And he said, Okay, what does it mean? I said, I don't know, he asked, I said, Doc what does it mean? He said, Well before you do it you gotta wipe his ass. That was why I get a rag. So she never came back again, we said you gotta get that place cleaned up.
Tom Eagles:So but he knew a lot. He really he was a brilliant old man and think about it, he was a black, very black Jamaican Cuban. In the thirties he got an honorary degree from Cornwall University. He wrote papers about animal climatization, bringing animals in out of The States and back then in Cuba they'd bring race horses and cattle. He was really a knowledgeable old man but crusty.
Tom Eagles:So I worked for him a while and he was and then he was taking rum for fees, you know, and his wife was, he he had come over and not gone back. He he was a a transient through the gate.
Katie Womble:Yeah. Wanted to ask you about that gate. So my understanding is that if folks came through that gate and they went back, if they didn't come back the next day they couldn't come back.
Tom Eagles:Yeah.
Katie Womble:Can you tell me about that?
Tom Eagles:There's a it's called Guacamero Hill. The the the Cubans would walk up to the hill. There's a house here they take all their clothes off walk across this courtyard. There's a guy sitting there about where Cara was and then he would search them and then go on and put clothes on and come down the chute into our base. Doc got tired one day and didn't go back so his wife Addie and the kids and everything was left out there so he stayed on base, know, this is long before I got there.
Tom Eagles:And then for years he worked to get Addy out and he did. She had to go from, I think she went through there to Spain and then they came back down to Cuba but mean he taught me how to smell heartworm. You know I'd be out there doing all these tests and he'd say, Mom she got the heartworm on here bleeding. I'd be out there testing the horses for worms. He'd say, Aman, you don't be doing that stupid shit, man, you put your hand on it and he'd smell it.
Tom Eagles:She got the bottom on and and he was right. And his herbalistic, one of the funniest things, like I said he was an old time, he was an honorary doctor but he knew a lot and he would go out in the woods around Guantanamo, the fields, he'd pick up stuff and he had a mortar and pestle and he'd beat it up and then he'd say Thomas I need some tins of petrolatum or a tin of petrolatum and I go out to the hospital, get a little tin and he'd say I need 10 of them. So I get him 10 and he say okay take six here put this stuff in there mix it up. He take four over here and he says give me a turd. So I'd get him a shovel of the turd he put in there and mix it in here with other stuff.
Tom Eagles:I said, doc, he said, oh, that bastard's pissed me off. He sent him a stuff in charge of what he put he put horse shit in there. Every morning he'd be sitting down to the drinking and going, doc, that dumb boss would be rubbing shit in their head now, dummy.
Katie Womble:That's hilarious.
Tom Eagles:But but he knew so much. I mean, but in the end he just got too old and then we finally got a real vet done so I baked the cake and we got a real air force vet to come in there and put the icing on it. And Doc stayed there and he died a few years later. But he got his wife and kids out of the communist Cuba. And there was a lot of that going on, a lot of Cubans stayed on base and there was place on the edge of the base called YKW, you know where.
Tom Eagles:And there's a at that time the largest minefields in the world surrounded the base of Cuba and every night somebody would try to get through that and you had all kind of issues, mom and dad made it, five kids didn't, grandma didn't, you know, he's right anyway and we had all these people on base who were escaping from Cuba.
Katie Womble:And what what happened to them?
Tom Eagles:They get hurt in the minefields, know, they step in a mine and we get the guys they had a thing called minefield maintenance rescue and the marines would go in there get the bodies or whoever's alive out of there.
Katie Womble:How did marines feel about that duty?
Tom Eagles:EOD or EOD experts these are guys that they I won't say they liked them but they they wanted it and that was what they did and they were very proud of it. They didn't like, you know, people getting killed and they didn't like picking up bodies But, you know, they say that some of them were in LA.
Oral Historian:When I was there, the Cubans were actually shooting through the French.
Tom Eagles:Oh
Oral Historian:yeah. And they would shoot at us as we were landing. Yeah. We'd have to come in very hot and pull power.
Tom Eagles:Well, Carol and I were on a barrel boat out near the water gate, you know, there's two bays. A barrel boat was a little the guys made these boats and you go out there and fishing. So we're out in the boat and all of a sudden we were in the sea and I said what's that? It was nighttime and we had a Coleman lantern up there and the guy said and I said bullshit. Said it was flying fish and I said they're shooting us and we heaved the lantern out and got away.
Tom Eagles:But yeah they would shoot us, mean nobody ever I don't think everybody heard on a barrel boat and I don't know about planes if they ever had one but I never heard about I'm sure they did but I never heard about anybody getting hurt.
Oral Historian:What they were shooting at us just wouldn't hurt us anyway, but we still had to come in hot or
Tom Eagles:high and
Oral Historian:pull power. Pretty eerie.
Tom Eagles:Yeah, it's not nice to be in friendly territory and get shot at.
Katie Womble:You you had your second son
Oral Historian:Guantanamo. Yeah. Right?
Tom Eagles:Yeah. He he he thought he was Cuban. Said, no, Pat, you're American, Torah. You used tell me I'm Cuban. No.
Tom Eagles:You're so you're born as an American.
Katie Womble:So was it difficult to I heard that it was a really close community, like the neighborhood Oh, oh, yeah. Quantenna Road. What was it like living there?
Tom Eagles:It was good for Caroline. It was our you know, we just got married. It was hard but it was you couldn't run away to mommy or daddy you know either one of us you were there. We got probably helped our marriage a lot. PXs, you know, by every couple weeks the ship would come in and they'd be up and down with stuff.
Tom Eagles:What do you wanna say about Cuban?
Katie Womble:You're good.
Oral Historian:They just more island. Can I go anywhere? Mhmm.
Tom Eagles:We went to Haiti a couple of times for
Katie Womble:Was that a vacation spot?
Tom Eagles:Yeah.
Katie Womble:Yeah. Okay.
Tom Eagles:We we went over twice to Haiti. Went twice to Haiti, didn't we? Yeah. They were what they had was the air station had a four engine aircraft. I can't even name it, you know, a big four engine transport at Guantanamo, yeah.
Tom Eagles:We had a big four engine aircraft.
Oral Historian:The C-130s, C-130s.
Tom Eagles:No, we had those but the station had, the Navy station had a, it wasn't a Constellation, it was a passenger, you know it was a passenger aircraft.
Oral Historian:There were a couple of supervocates Yeah
Tom Eagles:and they would fly over in the morning, take people from the base, Karen and I. P3? Yeah. And they'd fly over there and they'd pick up the embassy wheel and bring them back to go shopping and go to the hospital for a dental or so you'd go over for the day and then when they brought the embassy wheel back in the afternoon, late afternoon they'd pick you up and bring you back. We do that twice.
Tom Eagles:The first time I went over there the admiral called me one night and said, Doc, you gotta go to Haiti. Wow, this is cool man, know, said we're gonna fly a 400 aircraft, you know, me, I mean he's safe, that's the big stuff. So then I had a tackle box full of medical supplies, the ambassador's dog is sick. So I thought, wow, I'm somebody. So I flew off to Haiti and they met me at the airport in Port Au Prince.
Tom Eagles:They took me up to the ambassador's house and he had this Weimaraner and I thought, wow, you know. The only thing wrong with Weimaraner is he had anal glands expressed and he had an infection so of course I I trained a marine over there to be corporal of the anal glands how to express the anal glands because he was a dog, the master wife and so kept him in the compound but he could smell the other dogs, girl dogs around and he was sitting there and he got an infection and so I flew off to Haiti to take care of the inner organs and my dog. My ego went down. Mhmm.
Katie Womble:It's a reality check, I guess. Is there anything else you wanted to tell me about Guantanamo?
Tom Eagles:Like I said, it was a tight knit community. Everybody knew everybody. There wasn't a lot to do, mean either you know you worked, then they had all kinds of hobbies down there, woodworking shop, Caringbury got much into ceramics, you save some money, well this I'll say this. So I I I in The States, good wife, Got down there a great wife. I bought her a cookbook, know.
Tom Eagles:And so, you know, so one day she I came I worked at a clinic, I came over for lunch because it wasn't far. So she's cooking me pork chops and it got on fire and she ran out the house and the door got locked so the oven's on fire. So my neighbor who had a CB come down, broke the door down, got in and put the fire out. And his wife came over and said, are you doing? She said, I was cooking pork chops.
Tom Eagles:Okay. What's this in the sink? I have a steak for the supper. She said, what is all this, you know? And my aunt told Shavita went right down the tooth because she said, oh no no.
Tom Eagles:He makes his own breakfast. Canned ham or something or salami for lunch, he'd make a sandwich. I had her cook me three delicious meals a day and we're going broke. She said, oh no no no, if he's good breakfast he can make his own, lunch he can make a sandwich, slumber he can cook me with all three cooking meals, we had bacon and eggs, we had workshops, so I said no more of that, so then we started saving money. No more adulce de vita.
Tom Eagles:So my my good life went right down the road. She's always so she learned that one. That's what I can remember.
Katie Womble:Let's see. So in 1985, you all wait. Yeah. Okay. So in 1985, you moved 19 of your relative of Karen's relatives to to The States?
Tom Eagles:Not all at once but Vietnam fell. About a, how many, when did we get the 1983,
Oral Historian:Kathy and David come.
Tom Eagles:When was the first letter we got though?
Oral Historian:1979.
Tom Eagles:Okay. So Vietnam's home. She's been there for a long time. We went to a we're we're Catholic. Went to a couples retreat.
Tom Eagles:I was sitting in the basement and she's just learned how she just became Catholic you know and I'm sitting under this register and I hear this father tell her who was upstairs all the guys are down looking at this guy's basement. He said there's a Karen here, here's a holy card, say this no meaning whatever you want you're going to get. I said oh shit that's bullshit because I knew what you were going to pray for and it weren't going to happen. So I go hold on and she said what's this and I explained to her. So she got a statue of Mother Teresa, Saint Teresa and she's saying to us not praying to the statue but to remind her that for a week she's praying and the more she prayed the more matter I got you know because I knew what she was praying for it wasn't going to happen.
Tom Eagles:The last day of the novena she had a letter, first letter since, well we had to be 75, so four years she got her first letter. It was a horrible letter, so the family is in the shits, they're not communists, some of the family has gone to jail, they're here, they're there, we want to get out so I said who do want, said I want them all. I was at least six and I said holy, you know, what do want do? So we started, people found out about started raising the money and making noise through the embassies and we did all things. We got on TV, radio.
Katie Womble:What do you mean making the noise?
Tom Eagles:TV papers, media. If they did something good we got in the papers. If did something bad we got in the papers. The TV crew was kind of found what was called 19 to freedom. She, I mean, she even got word from the White House they were coming and they didn't come.
Tom Eagles:She's still believing, I'm not believing, not really. So I she said her sister and her son came first. One came in what year?
Oral Historian:1983.
Tom Eagles:And then the rest of the family came. They all came at once, we finally got almost all of them out. So they came when we lived in Fredericksburg, Virginia but all the people, all my friends and family were up in Buffalo, New York or actually knew of paint. So we got them out and they started the American dream, know, get a credit card, get that, do good, do bad, and they're all here except one. Does that answer it or do know?
Oral Historian:Yeah. Have question. You were out of country when it fell, right?
Tom Eagles:Oh yeah.
Oral Historian:How'd you feel?
Tom Eagles:Cried.
Oral Historian:You did?
Tom Eagles:You know when you think about all the people that died, I mean I thought all the work we do, if you want to say a four letter word tell Karen Kissinger, we sold the country down. When I was there, I mean they were coming into the villages when I left the village legally. When we got to the airplane at Townsendute when Caroline got because we were we we can't we didn't get to Freedom Bird we got a Herky Bird from Dining up to Okinawa But at the when we burned that burden there was an NVA officer going motor which is one, two, three, count on us, know, it wasn't, you know, and we were told don't say a word, know, we hauling them, you know, take that guy and beat his ass.
Oral Historian:You have a lot of nightmare about them, now sometimes you still have nightmare.
Tom Eagles:You got a high grade for days. I mean you think all the people died you know and they just sold it out and the Vietnamese I mean they took it in the shorts too and they really did. I mean a lot of our good friends died, mean some really good Vietnamese, good Vietnamese, fighting Vietnamese, they put them in camps. Mean they took over. The North Vietnamese conquered, they didn't liberate.
Tom Eagles:They conquered. When Caroline went back in 'eight, yeah, oh yeah, we went back. The South, the people, the North Indians were in charge. The Viet Cong madam Nguyen Thi Bin who was a female negotiator at at Paris, put her in jail. I mean the the Viet Cong had no now they're just starting to make them a honored citizen in Vietnam.
Tom Eagles:I mean for a long time, you know, we're here. The commanding officer Don Ten which is our enemy, the battalion commander he's been just been honor hero eyes or what I'd say. One of the nurses that was down in the room sat, the Viet Cong nurses, she's finally come out and now she's an honor woman. But that was how many years later?
Katie Womble:Is there anything else you thought I would ask you about?
Tom Eagles:Well, I'm trying to answer everything I can.
Katie Womble:I think you did great. I'm good.
Oral Historian:Thank you for your service.
Katie Womble:Thank you so much sir.
Tom Eagles:Thank you for what you're doing. F4 driver.
Tom Eagles:I'd do something to stay off the ground. You guys hit the ground.