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Unknown: Mike coming to you from
crash studios in Music City,

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USA, Nashville. This is the rich
Redmond show on

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this episode, Legacy Nashville
drummer Lonnie

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Wilson and now rich Redmond.

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What is up everyone? Rich
Redmond here. This is the rich

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Redmond show. As always, I'm
joined by my co host and CO

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producer Jim McCarthy, how are
you pal? Yes, still so hot here

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in Nashville, it is. I'm ready
for it to cool off, of course,

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by the time this airs, it'll
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might be because at night, nice
fall, feel we're way ahead on

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our podcasts, which is great. I
feel like an overachiever. We've

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actually got 23 of these in the
can, and we did that in six

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weeks. Yes, see what happens
when you set your mind to

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something. I never knew that,
and I never set my mind anything

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you're highly accomplished. For
those you guys that don't know

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Jim McCarthy, Jim McCarthy
voiceovers calm. He has worked

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at a million radio stations. He
does station ID, imaging, call

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waiting, what's like? Press one
for That's right. That's right.

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Press one to speak to a real
person. I've done over 200

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million appearances. Mike,

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well, who is my guest? My guest
today is an award winning

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musician. Mr. Lonnie Wilson, how
are you? My friend? It is just

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wonderful to have you here.
Thank you so much at my studio.

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And the idea if I had known this
24 years ago, when I moved to

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Nashville, that that you and I
would become friends that hardly

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ever see each other, because
we're always so busy swatting

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the drums in different parts of
the town or different parts of

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the country, that you would be
here and we'd be sharing some

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bubbly water together. Cheers.
This is so fantastic. Your

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success. Thank you just it's
awesome. I mean, you're killing

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it well, that absolutely thank
you knocking down, man. Well, it

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is, it is. It's such a fun story
because, like, one of the last

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times I saw you was, you know,
backstage at the Academy Country

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Music Awards in Vegas. And then
before that, I said, Lonnie, I

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take acting classes, like, right
next door to your studio. I'm

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coming over. We're gonna break
bread. We're gonna do something.

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So you made a pot of coffee. We
drank that entire pot of coffee.

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Oh yeah. And we just, you just
told me stories of the old days

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about the music business, when
it was like the red the velvet

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rope studio, 54 era of the music
business, which you experienced.

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It was fun firsthand. So thank
God he was fun. It is fun.

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Absolutely, you printed out some
of your accomplishments. This is

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incredible. I guess you got

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bored one day. It's pretty
crude. Bored, and said, let me

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print out all my
accomplishments.

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As a drummer. You have recorded
drums and percussion on 118

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number one songs so and then,
addition to that 282

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top 10 singles, 345, top 20
singles, and 446

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top 40 singles, all adding up to
over 200 million units sold. So

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your heart, your soul, your
groove, your musicianship, help

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the careers of countless people
that have been recording and

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writing songs in Nashville for
over three decades. Thank you.

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Pretty cool. Thank you, man,
thanks. It's been awesome. And

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in working with so many
different singers and artists

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and being on the ground floor,
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mean, with you, with Aldean. I
mean, that's in that a great

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feeling. It's wonderful

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because, you know, you see lives
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the ripple effect of it is
crazy. Yeah, I tell people all

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the time, you know, my purpose
in life is to affect people in a

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positive way and change lives.
So if I can, so that gets me out

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of bed every day. The drums are
fun. Playing music is fun, but

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it's also ultimately in line
with that purpose. I'm in line

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with my purpose. And you are.
You are such a multi talent

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because you you're a singer, you
are a songwriter, you are a

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producer, and you've done all
those things at the highest

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level in this Music City, USA,
you're like some of your

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drumming. You know your drumming
helped define a sound of modern

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country. Of course, our friend
Eddie bears, both of you guys

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amazing. So sweet to me when I
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different styles. Of course,
obviously, what you would have

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in common is servitude of the
song, staying out of the way,

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painting the picture, bringing
the song to life, and you had

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almost like this,

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kick butt loose. Hi Hat, more
crashes, aggressive style that

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brought the rock to country.
Now, who are some of your

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influences as drummer, because
you're, I feel like you're a

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rock drummer.

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Sure. Man, that's very
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you're a teacher. And

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I mean, I grew up in the 70s.
Finished high school in the mid

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70s, 76 so the music was so
good. Yeah, so many great

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players. I mean, gosh, so many
good drummers. Chris McCarthy,

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no doubt. Yeah. I mean, who, who
hasn't been influenced by Sure?

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And then there was, like, local.
My dad is a great drummer.

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You're from Monroe, Louisiana,
yes. And I grew up watching him

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play, listening to him play,
from the time I was, well, like

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a baby. That's incredible. So it
was in your blood. They my

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parents had her top 40 cover
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my uncle played in Monroe,
Louisiana. So, yeah, I was, I

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was going to rehearsals from the
time I can remember. Yeah, so

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that, so dad's number one, no
doubt. Bill Wilson. Shout out to

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Wild Bill Wilson, right? Wild
Bill, where's he in Monroe? He's

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in Monroe, Louisiana. You ever
get back? Oh yeah, yeah. Great

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singers. Are Nancy Wilson's her
name, and they're 84 and 81

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years old. Still Have your
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they've been playing. I mean, up
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ago, they were playing
regularly. But they're proud of

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you. God bless them. They're
amazing parents. Did they ever

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tell you to get a real job?

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probably because they realized
how difficult it was. Well,

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yeah, my dad was a chemist in a
hospital and played on the

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weekends, so it was good role
model, and they encouraged me to

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go to college, which I did, and
I majored in marketing, of all

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things. But I played in a great
top 40 cover band based out of

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Natchez, Mississippi, which we
played all that area,

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Mississippi, Louisiana, parts of
Texas, parts of Arkansas, and we

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played all that fun. I mean,
Commodores, Bee Gees, just that

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era. If you don't move to that
stuff, you're dead. Yeah, yeah.

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It's just and then, of course,
all the, you know, the 60s and

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50s rock and stuff, which, if
you go to parties now, you still

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what people want to hear. Did
you like no, yeah. Did you like

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Motown? I love Motown because
they're there you have for the

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drummer nerds out there. You
have a vocabulary idea they use

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a lot the six stroke, roll, get
out, boom, which is like, you

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know, which is the start of
this. No, you want to leave me.

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I just hear that is a
vocabulary. Now check this out.

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Why used to be in the predators
house band, and we would go and

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we would, we'd get a hot meal,
we'd have a chance to be on

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ESPN, and we make 100 bucks, and
it was like Jay al Dean's band.

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And we would, we would go play
for the predators, and we would

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back up chick singers. Emily
West was one of them, and we

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would do this song. I stole this
right from you, and I put it

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right into my back pocket. You.

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Okay, that track, I have to tell
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I had the flu that day, yes, I
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the drum booth, laying in a
fetal position. I hate that, and

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and trying to tough out the
session, you know. And Dan Huff

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comes and opens the door to the
booth and slams it because he

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sees me on the floor, is
sweating, and then he cracks it

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back up. He says, Hey, man,
we're ready to track this song,

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man, I gotta. And I just, I just
got up and that came out, yes,

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and I was in one take, yeah, oh,
yeah. Oh, thank God, yeah. It

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had to be, thank God. Now
Lonnie, that Phil, others gonna

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was a desperate feel. It was
like, I've got to get this, you

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know, desperate feel it was, it
was like, I've got to nail this,

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because I got one take in me and
and I did, I love that you went

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to the session, you know, that
you didn't send a sub. You just

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like, I got this. I'm gonna go
do this well, man, you know,

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you hate to cancel on people,
and Martina was so gracious and

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loyal for years to me, and I'll
always be thankful for her for

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that. Well, that's how you got
on my radar. Was a lot of those

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Martina McBride records. But you
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teach my crash concept for
success, one, you know, one of

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the parts of the acronyms is
relationships. And you seems

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like you have this career
defining track record with all

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these people that you have made
music with, not on just one

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single or one album, but all
their albums. So Brooks and Dunn

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Tim McGraw, John and Michael
Montgomery, Tracy Lawrence,

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faith, Hill, Martina McBride,
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After year, album after album,
hit after hit, they kept

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inviting you back to the party,
yeah? And they eventually change

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up, and that's cool. I mean,
that's part of the evolution,

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yeah, and, but, but you're
right. I had many artists that

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were incredibly loyal for a long
time. And of course, it's

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reciprocal, yeah, you know, I'm
gonna bring it for those people.

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We, we bring it for everybody,
right? I mean, that's, that's

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our nature. We're it's such a
competitive business, and

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there's so many great players.
You have to show up and be on

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every time. Once you crack the
door and get in, you want to

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stay in the party. You don't
want to get kicked out or be

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like, No, this guy isn't very
funny. More fun. Let's get a

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more funner guy. That's true,
right? You once you want to stay

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there, you want to stay
relevant. You want to, you know,

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once you taste the the blood of
the guys from drum paradise

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coming up and setting up your
drums, and you go get a hot cup

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of coffee and drink your water,
and you can catch up with

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everybody in this session. Drum
paradise, yes, yes, yes. We

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actually Harry and John Michael,
Harry and John Michael. We had

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Harry on. Yeah? That was a great
the great episode. The man,

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yeah, go check it out. You don't
have to go back to schlepping

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your own drums. You don't want
to have to do that. Do, yeah, I

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rich Redmond show. We'll be
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Learn by Doing, I definitely
think resonates with what we're

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about here at the School of
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I'm Angie McCarthy and I'm the
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Franklin and Nashville. I would
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that come in have either been
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watching YouTube, learning how
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lessons at some point in their
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we have the aging brain.

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What was the guy saying last
night? You're old. What was his

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name? Vance, right? What was
that Jim, he was talking about,

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we were at the party last night,
and he was talking about how,

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because he's been playing bass.
Oh, that's Vale Johnson. Vale,

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bass player for Kenny G, Kenny G
for 30 years. And you know you

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were talking about your cataract
in your eye. And he's like, you

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know why that is rich, you're
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I mean, what did you think that
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at 26 years old, I was this
young buck, I had a fire in my

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eye, reached out to you and what
I would have a cataract? No, I

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gotta get it lasered off. Man,
it happens. It looks like I'm

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looking through milk. It went
from a fire in your eye to a

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cloud in your That's horrible.

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So yeah, the petty junkies is
one of the funnest bands. And

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Mark hills, our band leader, and
we were doing a session a couple

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of years ago, and he were
talking about petty and he

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brought up doing a cover band,
and I sort of filed it away, and

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I called him up one day, and
he's, I said, Hey, are you

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serious about that? So anyway,
great band. Lot of fun. That

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stuff, so much fun. It's fun to
get out and play live. And I

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know that for you were telling
me for around 30 years, you just

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went to the session every day.
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make magic for that artist. And
then in recent years, you

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started doing a Vegas residency
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and now you're playing for Mr.
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man, yeah, 60 number one songs.
Oh, god, yeah, it's amazing. I

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mean, you can't play 60 songs in
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no way do all this hits, yeah,
but it's, it's a, it's a joy

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working a great band, those
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And so Mike Kennedy, God, rest
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George, a phenomenal drummer for
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about a year ago, lost his life
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knew Mike. You probably, you
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when I came to town right away,
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down at this nightclub that is
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Warehouse on the roundabout, you
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was a nightclub. And so Jim or
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McDonald and all these new guys
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would go and do jam sessions
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drummer. Oh yeah, yeah. Great
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call Glen Whorf, bass player,
well known studio bass player,

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yes, he's out with Mark Knopfler
right now. Okay, great. And he

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called me up and and said, Hey,
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This. This might be a good fit
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you know, going into that
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if you, if you want to do it, I
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and so he sort of laid the
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it's worked out great. Yeah, I'm
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the same set list for the entire
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He changes it from gig. Big
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regularly. Keeps me on my toes.
A little, little chart book up

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there, or, like, what do you
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stick man charts, you know, with
the drum talk on it, I do the

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same thing. Nobody else could
read, yeah. Drum talk, yeah. So

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it just and then you have it
alphabetized, and so you could

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pull things up on the fly. Or,
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do you guys sound check? We do,
and we usually get a set list

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three, four days ahead of time.
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That's really cool, yeah,
because we kind of usually, at

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the beginning of the year, we
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two, and miss, set it and forget
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happens is, as a new single
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sound check and stick that in
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just likes to have a nice,
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and wanting more. You know, yes,
it's crazy. Oh, you guys are

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great, man. I love I am so
grateful, you guys. I am so

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grateful because, you know, one
of the things that brought me to

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Nashville, and I forget the
story super specifically, but in

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addition to, like, playing
around Dallas, you know, I had

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graduated with my master's
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had moved into Dallas, and I was
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music and top 40 stuff in Super
churches, and I would teach drum

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lessons. And I taught this kid
that was good friends of yours

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that knew your brother, yes, yes
in Dallas, right, right, yeah.

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And then he goes, Well, I know
Lonnie Wilson. I said, Who's

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that? And he goes, what? How
dare you? You don't know, where

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is your head under a rock and so
then I look up your discography.

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I was like, Oh my God, this guy
is making the sound of modern,

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modern music in Nashville. He
goes, you want to meet him? Give

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him a call. And I called you,
yes, and you answered the phone,

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and you said, Hey kid, it's
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We'll see you when you come to
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listen to my demo tape, and you
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you'll do okay. You might have
to work some day jobs for a

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while, which I did well, but, I
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being very impressive. Oh, man.
I mean, I put it on like, wow,

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this guy's I always like when
girls tell me my package is

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impressive. I knew that.

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Yes, thank you. Sorry,

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but, but then I ran with it, you
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I was probably, you were
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when I moved here. I'm, well,
maybe younger. I'm 49 see, when

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you would have been younger. I
moved here 23 years ago. So

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maybe you were, maybe you were

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60 now, okay, yeah, you were 40
years old killing it, or you

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were like 3030, or something
like that, yeah, oh, my god,

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yeah, yeah, you know what? I
can't remember anything. I can't

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remember my band members. I
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but you know what, look at this.
I put a little just so people

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can get a sense, and I'll just
take play little snippets of

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this. But it's like this, Brook
since I got a chance to play a

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television show with Brooks and
Dunn and these iconic voices, I

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mean, looks to this.

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And fire in your church and the
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eyes, I'm born. That's gorgeous.
And then you got,

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yes, that's you

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okay now, but this is how you
got on my radar, right here.

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Martina, the beginning of the
Sean Hannity show.

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Now is

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now,

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feta, yeah, hey baby, let's

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go to Vegas.

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I really like this one.

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such good songs. I mean, this
define an era. Mr. Cries out

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now, Jason is such a huge fan of
Tracy Lawrence. We do an

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acoustic show before the like
the VIPs come to and we play an

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acoustic version of time. Let's
go like a Jim Bay. And then, as

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a songwriter, I believe if wiki
is correct, you wrote this.

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You wrote this.

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Has co wrote

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it, my clothes thrown

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everywhere. I think it's Paul
Ryan. What about this? You wrote

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this now, Holly Dunn, lot of
records. Holly Dunn, like a

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decade and a half of being a
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Go

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that's beautiful. And then I saw
I did the Earl Thomas thing

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yesterday, we did the Earl we
did like an Earl Thomas

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Connelly, benefits, slash
tribute, slash funeral. Event

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yesterday at the Country Music
Hall of Fame, and I got this, I

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saw Joe Diffie. And then how
about,

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is this you? Or is

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this Paul? Yeah, check sugar
tree now. Now, Pam, tell us that

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was my first job in Nashville,
right? So I got to play, forget

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that track. It was, it was the
last song on a demo session in

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tree at the old tree studio,
Sony tree for Chapin Hartford.

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She wrote it, and it was just
this wacky little song, and she

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threw it, she said, I don't
know. And Blair, Larry Paxton

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was on it, yeah, I don't
remember who else was. I

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remember Larry, and we just cut
it was like, one take, just like

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running out of time, yeah. And
next thing I know,

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Pam was cutting right? And then
I get word that they took the

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demo and used it as the record.
So that's that's actually a

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house kit at tree studio.

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Last song or a demo session,
just kind of everybody just

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winging it. Well, a lot of great
drum parts and musical parts

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happen in those last minute
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you're not overthinking things.
Oh, bingo, right. And then

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sometimes the guys that are
playing on the masters have a

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hard time beating the demo
because the general guys were

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under the clock, absolutely
right? Yes, yes. I've seen that

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happen a lot of times. Yeah. Now
that demo industry that we that

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we thrived on for years, I mean,
I had like, a, maybe, like a

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eight year window where I was
sometimes doing two demo

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sessions a day with two
different drum sets set up in

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different parts of Nashville.
Was, like, awesome. It's not

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happening anymore, because all
the kids are using virtual

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instruments and loops and
trigger pads and all that kind

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of stuff. It's a treat for them
to book a rhythm section like it

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used to be, yeah, but
occasionally you'd probably

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doing some my son's a songwriter
in Dallas, Dallas, and he's

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there's a group of them that'll
they'll book they'll book

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sections and but it was it,
typically it might be one or two

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songs, because you're right most
of the time they're building

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tracks. Yeah, and a lot of our
tracks sound great, but it's

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nothing like real players. Man,
yeah, you know. And I've been to

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your you've got, like, a nice
commercial studio. I love my

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place. Your drums are all set up
again. Nice Pro Tools, Rick,

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great microphones. You got
isolation, cozy and fun. Nice

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coffee. Gotta have a coffee.
Yes, nothing special, but yeah.

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So what's that process for you?
Like for somebody who's doing

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four different things, you know
what? You started out as always

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playing drums, but you were the
lead singer of a group called

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bandana from 1981 to 1986 right?
I was, and that was awesome to

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to have that situation come up
and have a record deal, and

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because I was torn

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on being a singer when I moved
here, but I had a lot of

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encouragement to do that, yeah,
and accidentally wound up with a

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record deal so long, too long a
story to tell you, but it worked

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out, and it was a great way to
meet tons of people, writers,

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producers that I would have
never met that quickly had I not

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been a singer, because I had
great songwriters pitching me

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songs, so I got to know them.
You're front man, so you're

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going to attract the people that
are like, oh, right, this way,

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Mr. Wilson.

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But it was, it was we had enough
success to where I really got to

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feel like what it would be like
to go to that next level. And

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for me, it was like, Man, I miss
playing drums. I just, and I

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think, you know, I was looking
at session players, and you

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know, we'd be tracking that
certain studios, you know,

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soundstage being one of them,
you know, Eddie bears and Larry

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London and those guys, you know,
having a ball down the hall,

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tracking and like, man, that's,
I kind of want to do that,

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right? It's so it just kind of
eventually worked out. What

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happened

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I was, I mean, your music isn't
on Spotify bandana. Like, how

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can people find that? Is it
vinyl somewhere? Like.

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It's, yeah, I don't know. I
don't know where it is. You

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don't want in the bargain bins
at Walmart, because that was

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like 81 to 86 and you guys had
10 singles on the hot country

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charts. Yeah, that's pretty
cool. Yeah, yeah. We, we had

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enough. We had we never cracked
the top 10, but we'd like to

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1317,

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you know, right in that era of
where we could, we could open

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shows for bigger acts like
Millsap and experience that

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whole thing. So it served its
purpose. Who was in your band?

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Who was your drummer? Jerry Ray
Johnston, okay, great drummer.

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He's from my hometown, yeah.
Great singer. His son is Jaren

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Johnston, you know Jerry,
songwriter, yeah, and singer in

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front man with Cadillac three,
oh, yes, yes, great. And he

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produced some rock band, yes,
yeah. And I think he's doing

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some country acts too. Now, it's
great, but yes, see, we had a

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Tim Menzies, phenomenal singer
songwriter, Joe Van Dyke on

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keyboards, Jerry Ray on drums,
and Jerry Fox played bass. Wow.

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And are you in touch with all
these guys till this day? Keep

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in touch with them pretty well.
But you were the guy that went

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to like, mega success. Well, you
know, all the guys went on to do

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good things. I mean, Joe Van
Dyke played keyboards for Randy

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Travis for years, and understand
he's moved back to town. He

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moved away for a while,

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and and every guy has gone on to
play and do other things music

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related.

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I see who? Oh, Tim, phenomenal.
Tim Menzies, one of the best

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country singers I've ever heard
in my life. I'm just amazing

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tone, great, great songwriter
has written quite a few hit

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songs.

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Check him out sometimes. Sure
he's, he's doing gospel now,

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wow, yeah, I've done it's so
funny. Nashville is like, a

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steady diet of, like, obviously,
it's the home of country music.

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All of contemporary Christian
music is produced here, and

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there's southern gospel. It's
funny how there's these little,

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like, cliques of people. And
it's like, I always joke about,

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like, well, where all the
contemporary can Christian

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folks? Because I never run into
them. You never, like, see them

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00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,660
at a watering hole. And, you
know, at the red door, I don't

431
00:27:15,660 --> 00:27:18,540
know if they get out, you know,
I don't know if they get out. I

432
00:27:18,540 --> 00:27:22,280
don't know if you find the
Christian folk at the red, yeah.

433
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:28,160
Why not? You know, Jesus drank
wine. It was his first recorded

434
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,240
miracle. What's that? Turning
water into wine? Yeah, wedding,

435
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,600
a Cana. I'm looking through, and
I literally, if you watch the

436
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,540
video of the show, I had a
spent, I think the last like, 15

437
00:27:38,540 --> 00:27:39,920
minutes, thumbing through the

438
00:27:41,060 --> 00:27:44,740
never a list of stuff that
you've played on, and it just

439
00:27:44,740 --> 00:27:48,940
keeps on going. It's like, I'm
like page after what comes to

440
00:27:48,940 --> 00:27:52,780
mind memory wise. Because
really, if you look at an era,

441
00:27:52,780 --> 00:27:55,300
these are the sounds that define
that era. So Brooks and Dunn

442
00:27:55,300 --> 00:27:59,560
brand new man. Tim McGraw,
Indian outlaw John. Michael

443
00:27:59,860 --> 00:28:03,540
Montgomery, I swear. Tracy
Lawrence, time marches on Faith

444
00:28:03,540 --> 00:28:07,980
Hill. This kiss that
Independence Day, huge. Martina,

445
00:28:08,220 --> 00:28:11,100
and you were the ACM drummer of
the year in 2002 and 2004

446
00:28:12,300 --> 00:28:16,560
amazing. Thank you. So what is
that? What is for somebody that

447
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,260
does wears four hats like I know
that you'll produce records,

448
00:28:19,260 --> 00:28:21,680
you'll go in and you'll co
writes songs with people. You're

449
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,680
doing the session drumming
thing. What is a typical day

450
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,740
that you're not booked on a
recording session playing for

451
00:28:27,740 --> 00:28:30,140
somebody else to make their
dreams come true? Is that the

452
00:28:30,140 --> 00:28:33,680
days that you decide to write,
do you have hobbies? What? What

453
00:28:34,100 --> 00:28:37,100
is, yeah, I love the lake. Yeah,

454
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,800
golf a little bit. Okay, he
listens to the radio and goes,

455
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:42,280
That's me,

456
00:28:43,540 --> 00:28:44,020
that's me,

457
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:45,700
and that's me.

458
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,500
That's cool. No, it's, it's.
What else do I do?

459
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:57,460
I'm a homebody. Yeah, big time
homebody. But you know what? I

460
00:28:57,460 --> 00:29:01,680
love my kids love I'm having a
ball with with them, you know.

461
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:06,420
And my son, Dallas is doing
well, has a publishing deal and

462
00:29:06,780 --> 00:29:11,040
has a very successful
videography company. They do

463
00:29:11,220 --> 00:29:14,940
weddings, two weddings. And my
daughter's working full time

464
00:29:14,940 --> 00:29:18,420
with him. She's doing all the
editing, doing phenomenal job.

465
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,340
Family business, yeah,

466
00:29:21,780 --> 00:29:25,460
singer, too. They probably need
some voiceovers. Oh yes, yeah,

467
00:29:25,580 --> 00:29:27,800
yeah. Connected Jim mccarthy.com

468
00:29:29,540 --> 00:29:31,160
where someone's getting married,

469
00:29:32,540 --> 00:29:36,020
yeah, man, this day is the last
day of your single life. All

470
00:29:36,020 --> 00:29:39,860
right, Dallas, okay, I can bring
it. I'll bring the thunder.

471
00:29:39,860 --> 00:29:44,380
Bring it thunder. But my
daughter's a great little

472
00:29:44,380 --> 00:29:48,220
singer. I use her own background
vocals all the time, and so we,

473
00:29:48,220 --> 00:29:50,140
you know, music's always
running. Yeah,

474
00:29:51,220 --> 00:29:52,840
I'm looking at all the Tim
McGraw

475
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,860
cuts here, and I'm thinking of
all the songs that I've played

476
00:29:56,860 --> 00:29:59,920
on the drums that unbeknownst to
me, I know, you know, you.

477
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,880
Were the one who, you're the one
who forged the fabric.

478
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,340
Yeah, I was there, and, you
know, all the songs, like even

479
00:30:08,340 --> 00:30:11,880
the rascal flat stuff, harkens
back to when my wife and I

480
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,960
couldn't agree on music, until
we went on vacation to Florida,

481
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,840
Tampa, and we started listening
to country music, because moving

482
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,620
to Nashville, at the time,
became a prospect for us. And we

483
00:30:21,620 --> 00:30:25,100
were coming from Las Vegas. I
was going to be working for mix

484
00:30:25,100 --> 00:30:30,260
92 nine and Jack FM here before
Jack FM kicked off. And so in oh

485
00:30:30,260 --> 00:30:33,260
five, we went on vacation to
Tampa, and because it's

486
00:30:33,260 --> 00:30:35,900
Nashville, we started listening
to country station down there.

487
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,080
And all the hits at the time
were like, bless the broken

488
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,640
Road, fast cars and freedom. A
lot of that kind of stuff was

489
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,060
out, you know, obviously having
no idea that it's the same guy

490
00:30:46,060 --> 00:30:48,880
playing on all these things. So
I thank you for that. We

491
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,600
actually have Music Week at a
ground. I love rascal flats,

492
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,800
man. Those those records are so
much fun. Yeah? I mean, really

493
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:01,740
dynamic. Yeah. Those guys very
talented. So if somebody is

494
00:31:01,740 --> 00:31:03,300
producing a record in this town,

495
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,160
you were in the room on some of
that stuff. So we're talking,

496
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,940
who are these producers for
those eras? Dan Huff who else?

497
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:18,060
Don cook. Don cook? Scott
Hendrix, yeah. James Stroud,

498
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,900
Mark. Bright Mark Wright, yeah.
Gosh, we had so much fun. Oh, my

499
00:31:23,900 --> 00:31:26,300
God. I love the Brooks and Dunn
stuff, and then so much and then

500
00:31:26,300 --> 00:31:30,560
little, you know, our buddy Trey
gray goes out there. Trey ball

501
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,740
of fun, yes, man, you know, he's
killing it, you know. And he was

502
00:31:33,740 --> 00:31:37,880
one of the first live drummers
in Nashville that really brought

503
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:42,280
that youth oriented rock energy.
It wasn't really happening in

504
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,220
live band. Yes, yes. And you
know, then he's playing with

505
00:31:45,220 --> 00:31:48,040
Aaron tip, and he's playing with
Faith Hill. Is like, Who is that

506
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,500
guy? He's having a ball back
there. And it really kind of

507
00:31:50,500 --> 00:31:54,940
changed things. Yes, absolutely.
Well, you asked me earlier about

508
00:31:54,940 --> 00:31:56,140
other influences.

509
00:31:57,460 --> 00:32:01,020
Gosh, man, look, of course,
Larry London. I mean, when, when

510
00:32:01,020 --> 00:32:08,100
I got here in 1980 Yeah, I was
21 I was just like, listening to

511
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,760
country radio and trying to,
trying to learn how to play the

512
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,120
current songs. And because I was
really, I was a rocker, you

513
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,000
said, I mean, I was grew up on
funk and rock and roll and

514
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,100
Louisiana and soul music and
country stuff I played would be

515
00:32:22,100 --> 00:32:25,880
more like Merle Hackard Mama
Tried you like stuff we do as a

516
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:30,260
cover band, you'd have to do
some country, but it was

517
00:32:30,260 --> 00:32:35,240
primarily rock and soul, right?
So when I moved here, I really

518
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,620
had to dig deep and listen to
country drummers like that

519
00:32:39,620 --> 00:32:43,000
could, because it's an art
that's amazing to hear that. You

520
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,520
say that because I did this. I
went out and I bought Merle

521
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,840
Haggard's Greatest Hits, and,
you know, all the stuff, yes.

522
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,120
And I went down to this place
that's no longer there. It's

523
00:32:52,180 --> 00:32:56,440
called two beat two boots pizza
now, but it used to be called

524
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,560
The Great Escape, and they had
used cassettes, yes. And I went

525
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,280
and bought Tammy wine. It's
Greatest Hits and everyone's

526
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,820
Greatest Hits. And I kind of
studied that buddy Harmon stick

527
00:33:05,820 --> 00:33:08,280
and brush things. I was like, if
I ever end up playing the Grand

528
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,400
Ole Opry, I wouldn't be able to
speak this language, you know,

529
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,060
no. So when I got the job with
Tillis and Pam and I got to back

530
00:33:15,060 --> 00:33:17,700
up, you know, Vince Gill and
stuff, was like, I could speak

531
00:33:17,700 --> 00:33:20,280
that language, and we could
break the rules. And you broke

532
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,340
the rules. You're like, All
right, we're gonna use a piccolo

533
00:33:22,340 --> 00:33:26,180
snare drum. Yeah, I'm gonna have
20 inch crashes, big block to

534
00:33:26,180 --> 00:33:31,400
block. The fills, big six stroke
rules, huge gated second, no

535
00:33:31,460 --> 00:33:32,360
double bass riffs,

536
00:33:33,620 --> 00:33:35,300
right? That'd be this guy.

537
00:33:37,100 --> 00:33:40,040
Before I came to town, I saw,
you know, hick town on video,

538
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,300
and I was like, opposite of you
guys, like coming into being

539
00:33:43,300 --> 00:33:45,940
humble and learning the
language. I was all like, Oh, I

540
00:33:45,940 --> 00:33:49,060
could totally do this, yeah, and
that's why I wanted the radio.

541
00:33:49,540 --> 00:33:54,340
Yes, you know. But Jim is a, he
is a hobbyist drummer. I say

542
00:33:54,340 --> 00:33:57,580
he's actually a wonderful feel.
He actually, we shot a video of

543
00:33:57,580 --> 00:34:00,820
him playing the song kick down
from memory. He did a great job.

544
00:34:00,940 --> 00:34:03,180
Yeah, I'm sure you did. You
know, if I say, okay, great. Do

545
00:34:03,180 --> 00:34:05,760
you want to vote devote 20 years
of your life to go out and

546
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,040
riding a tour bus and bringing
that to life every night? He

547
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:13,200
goes, No, no, no, yes. Was that
different for you going out from

548
00:34:13,740 --> 00:34:16,740
being a session drummer for 30
years and then going out with

549
00:34:16,740 --> 00:34:18,000
Now George Strait

550
00:34:19,020 --> 00:34:22,820
living out of a suitcase? Well,
that the the

551
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:28,280
first gig I took was Reba and
Brooks and Dunn in two in 2016

552
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,080
Yeah. And

553
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:36,080
literally, what happened I was,
I was barbecue joint, next sound

554
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:36,560
Emporium,

555
00:34:37,700 --> 00:34:41,920
the one, yeah, yeah, I'm eating
barbecue. And I heard old Brooks

556
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:46,480
and Dunn record. And I'm like,
oh man. I texted Roddy. I said,

557
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,960
Man, I just heard one of the
records. It's so cool. Just wow.

558
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,660
Where's time going? And he
called me, yeah, and he said,

559
00:34:52,660 --> 00:34:53,920
Man, I can't believe

560
00:34:54,940 --> 00:34:58,840
you called, because I was with
Reba last night and we were

561
00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:59,680
talking about.

562
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:00,060
Uh,

563
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,160
we need a drummer. And in your
name, came up and thought, you

564
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,180
might want to go to Vegas. And
that's not, I thought, sure. Why

565
00:35:09,180 --> 00:35:12,240
not? Man, why not? Let's do it.
I mean, that is the way the

566
00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:14,940
universe works. Yes, that law of
attraction, where you think

567
00:35:14,940 --> 00:35:17,760
about someone and the next thing
you know that you got a text. It

568
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,980
was pretty wild, yeah. And of
course, you know, it was

569
00:35:19,980 --> 00:35:23,660
perfect, and it was, it was
like, riding a bike. It's like,

570
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:28,640
oh man, okay, this is fun. Let's
get back out here. Do it? Was

571
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,980
there anything that you really
wanted to do that you haven't

572
00:35:30,980 --> 00:35:31,220
done?

573
00:35:32,540 --> 00:35:36,440
Like, you know? Yeah, a lot, a
lot of guys that want to be you

574
00:35:36,500 --> 00:35:39,380
wanted to aspire to be you. But
I mean, sometimes that are you

575
00:35:39,380 --> 00:35:42,040
guys that are you like, did you
ever just want to be a welder?

576
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,000
I would be terrible anything
with my hands so bad,

577
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,860
Rich. Just gave me the look of
like, Why? Why do I have you on

578
00:35:53,860 --> 00:35:56,380
this show? I picked this up and
I was gonna, I was like,

579
00:35:56,380 --> 00:36:00,420
tightening up this thing, right?
And Jim looked at me like, I

580
00:36:00,420 --> 00:36:03,180
always wanted to ask somebody
like Keith Urban, you know, and

581
00:36:03,180 --> 00:36:06,840
somebody of, like, you know, a
list status, yeah, like, Dude,

582
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,140
you ever just want to be the guy
that just gets to do his his

583
00:36:10,140 --> 00:36:13,320
thing at night and stocking the
shelves at Home Depot? You know,

584
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:14,940
it's just anonymous, wow. You

585
00:36:16,260 --> 00:36:18,960
ever want to not, you know, not
be recognized? I can tell you

586
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,680
this. I wish Uber would have
been around when I moved to

587
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,260
town. Yeah, I think about that
every time I could you be an

588
00:36:24,260 --> 00:36:27,560
Uber driver? I would, man, yeah,
that's a great way, a great

589
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,580
little funny video series. You
were starving, bro. Oh yeah, I

590
00:36:31,580 --> 00:36:34,040
was a kid because, you know, I
parked cars. I didn't know

591
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,520
anybody. I was like, I waited
tables, yeah, and I was a

592
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,360
substitute teacher. And I felt
so bad at myself. I said to

593
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,780
myself, Oh, my God, I worked on
my craft so much, and now I was

594
00:36:43,780 --> 00:36:46,960
a big fish in Dallas, and now I
move here, and I got to start

595
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:47,920
all the way at the bottom,

596
00:36:49,060 --> 00:36:51,940
like you humble, yeah? And I've
never forgotten that feeling,

597
00:36:51,940 --> 00:36:56,140
man, I don't know about you, but
for me, it's like, Man,

598
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:02,100
I never I'm sorry. Man, it's
cocky is not allowed in our

599
00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:04,920
business. Yeah, there's too much
talent. That's why I didn't make

600
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,820
it. You know, no, it's not that.
It's to know that someone as

601
00:37:08,820 --> 00:37:11,940
successful as you had to kick
and claw, and it didn't land in

602
00:37:11,940 --> 00:37:14,640
your lap. And most successful
people don't make it through

603
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:15,840
that nice separatism.

604
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,620
I couldn't read music, man. I
just never got into it. You

605
00:37:19,620 --> 00:37:22,340
don't do a lot of that. I just
had a funny video idea, like,

606
00:37:22,340 --> 00:37:25,460
having, like, would you, would
you drive for Uber? I mean, is

607
00:37:25,460 --> 00:37:28,580
that kind of something that you
would do back then? No doubt.

608
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,860
Yeah, of course, right. That's a
perfect gift. But the funny

609
00:37:30,860 --> 00:37:33,920
thing is, what if he didn't you,
like, had, like, you know, maybe

610
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:38,720
your son sets up, you know,
incognito cameras, and you just

611
00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:41,500
have nothing but country radio
on and, like, for everybody that

612
00:37:41,500 --> 00:37:43,780
gets on the in the car, that's
me, Hey, do

613
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,380
you like country music? Yeah,
you ever heard of my team

614
00:37:47,380 --> 00:37:50,140
McCarthy played on this? You
hear the song, that's me, but

615
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:56,080
you pick them up in something
like a gremlin from the 70s. Oh

616
00:37:56,140 --> 00:37:59,260
yeah. It's got, like, rust. It's
got rust. It's all that's

617
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:01,680
kind of what I had.

618
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:08,340
That's a great little viral
video. It is the new barista

619
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,340
waiting tables. I tell
everybody, try for try for Uber,

620
00:38:11,340 --> 00:38:13,560
because you're going to learn
the city, and you're going to

621
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,960
set your own hours. It's pretty
good money, and you're going to

622
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,740
meet people. And people are the
key to anything. Yes, you know.

623
00:38:19,740 --> 00:38:23,420
I mean, who knows if I hadn't
had you and Eddie give me that

624
00:38:23,420 --> 00:38:26,420
little letter of recommendation
and listen to my tape and pump

625
00:38:26,420 --> 00:38:29,240
me up and tell a few people
about me. You recommended me.

626
00:38:29,540 --> 00:38:30,920
You got me a job

627
00:38:32,420 --> 00:38:36,500
with a girl named Amy Dally.
That was my first Amy, she's so

628
00:38:36,500 --> 00:38:39,620
good. She got you. She was
signed to curb records. Who's

629
00:38:39,620 --> 00:38:43,360
about to be signed a curb
records. Now, Amy is married to

630
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,520
our guitar player, Jack
Sizemore. They've been married

631
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,040
for like, a decade. You're
kidding, and that crazy. Okay,

632
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,800
so I can refresh my memory,
because I remember getting your

633
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,520
package, okay? And I remember
being very impressed. Oh,

634
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,720
thanks. And then we talked,
right? Did you call me? Think I

635
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:00,960
called you? And you're like,
yeah, man, come to town. You

636
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,540
know, this is how it works. I
recommend you to Amy, because I

637
00:39:03,540 --> 00:39:05,640
can't remember, yeah, and then
I, and then I, then I reached

638
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,940
out to I was like, Hey, there's
this girl named Mila Mason Dark

639
00:39:08,940 --> 00:39:11,940
Horse. She just re recorded the
Amanda Marshall hit called Dark

640
00:39:11,940 --> 00:39:14,520
Horse, and she's looking for a
drummer. Can you get me? I don't

641
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,280
know what happened. It never
happened. But guess what? Years

642
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,860
later, I ended up meeting Mila
Mason, because I got a

643
00:39:21,860 --> 00:39:25,340
publishing deal writing songs
for magic Mustang publishing for

644
00:39:25,340 --> 00:39:28,820
five years. But the very first
writing session I ever booked

645
00:39:28,940 --> 00:39:32,600
was through Myla Mason, because
she became a publisher, and she

646
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,300
connected me with one of her
right and I did a right for one

647
00:39:35,300 --> 00:39:37,940
of her artists. And so, like all
these years later, I was able

648
00:39:37,940 --> 00:39:41,320
to, like, give her a hug. It was
like crazy, but that was a you

649
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,400
thing. And then Eddie got me
something, like you got me my

650
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,520
first job. Wow, that's so cool.
And that's the thing that I'm

651
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,580
noticing about both of you guys.
And I wrote this down early in

652
00:39:51,580 --> 00:39:52,060
the show,

653
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,260
you guys are so, you know, based
on the stories that you've been

654
00:39:56,260 --> 00:39:58,540
telling, so warm and
accommodating, you know is that

655
00:39:58,540 --> 00:39:59,920
something you always practiced
in.

656
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:00,420
With

657
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:02,580
anybody who came to town.

658
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,560
But just just as far as is
dialog and hanging with you mean

659
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:12,060
helping people, yeah, yeah, man,
I think, you know, I think

660
00:40:12,060 --> 00:40:16,140
musicians and writers are the
are the

661
00:40:17,460 --> 00:40:22,460
lifeblood of this town, of
course. I mean and real estate.

662
00:40:22,460 --> 00:40:27,080
Most giving and most humble
people are the musicians and the

663
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:33,980
writers, because I truly believe
that and and we're just, we help

664
00:40:33,980 --> 00:40:34,580
each other.

665
00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:38,960
We're we're friendly
competition, but we still help

666
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,700
each other. We look out for each
other, and I think it's a big

667
00:40:42,700 --> 00:40:46,420
part of what makes our town
really cool. You see that in the

668
00:40:46,420 --> 00:40:49,000
voiceover business, too? Yeah, a
lot of people just help each

669
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,960
other out. It's not so
backstabbing, like acting and

670
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,480
stuff like that. You know? It's
they just write. They're just

671
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,660
it's a good community because
they're not based on their

672
00:40:58,660 --> 00:41:01,440
looks. They're based on their
their vocal performances, yeah,

673
00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:04,320
and they understand what parts
will be good for somebody else,

674
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,900
maybe not necessarily them, and
they'll champion somebody else.

675
00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:09,060
Well, you know, with this being
the songwriting capital of the

676
00:41:09,060 --> 00:41:13,980
world, you know, the the the
writers, without the writers,

677
00:41:13,980 --> 00:41:17,940
the musicians have no jobs. Oh,
yeah, you know, it's like, we're

678
00:41:17,940 --> 00:41:20,820
hired to bring those things to
life. That's right. So for

679
00:41:20,820 --> 00:41:24,980
someone like you, you're you're
a muse, you're a song writers,

680
00:41:24,980 --> 00:41:28,700
drummer, you recognize the power
of the song and the storytelling

681
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,100
and staying out of the way and
knowing what's going to work on

682
00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:34,760
the radio when you're actually
writing songs. What's your

683
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,640
process? Do you write in guitar,
keyboards? You've melodies,

684
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,380
lyric. I'm like more. I'm like,
a lyric guy, big picture guy,

685
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:46,180
it's all of the above, yeah,
depending on what you got, yeah,

686
00:41:46,180 --> 00:41:51,040
sometimes it's a track, yeah,
sometimes it's a title, yeah,

687
00:41:51,220 --> 00:41:53,680
and, but usually I mean,

688
00:41:54,940 --> 00:42:00,120
I love it when somebody has a
great idea. So a title or an

689
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:05,580
idea that just lends itself to
writing itself. You know, just I

690
00:42:05,580 --> 00:42:09,540
remember I had a co wrote a song
with Ronnie Dunn and Kim

691
00:42:09,540 --> 00:42:13,800
Williams, who was we lost him a
few years ago, amazing writer.

692
00:42:15,660 --> 00:42:20,780
And so I will give away the
title, because here's, here's

693
00:42:20,780 --> 00:42:24,860
how we found the title. We've
started writing a drinking song

694
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,460
with Ronnie, always works a
couple days, you know, prior,

695
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,240
and I was kind of questioning
even writing a drinking song at

696
00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:35,300
the time, you know, for the
radio at that time, so like, mid

697
00:42:35,300 --> 00:42:38,780
90s, and because she should
never question a drinking song,

698
00:42:38,780 --> 00:42:41,260
because she music. But I was
that night on the phone with

699
00:42:41,260 --> 00:42:47,380
Kim. And Kim's reply to me was,
yeah, but you know what, man,

700
00:42:47,380 --> 00:42:51,220
that's that's the honky tonk
truth. And when he said, write

701
00:42:51,220 --> 00:42:55,960
that down, he said, Kim said,
Honky Tonk truth. That's a great

702
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,780
title, and that's a great title.
And then Kim goes, ooh, you know

703
00:43:00,780 --> 00:43:03,120
what the honky tonk truth is?
It's a lie.

704
00:43:06,660 --> 00:43:10,680
It's a crazy town full of neon
dreams. Should we crank a little

705
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,500
bit of Honky Tonk? Oh, yeah,
man, that was a good one. That

706
00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:14,160
was fun. I

707
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:20,120
I'm

708
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,460
the life of the party, baby.
Since you said goodbye,

709
00:43:37,220 --> 00:43:41,420
just ask Oh Joe, he knows I'm
here every night, I said, don't

710
00:43:41,420 --> 00:43:42,200
tell a piccolo you

711
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:44,680
every

712
00:43:46,060 --> 00:43:46,360
night,

713
00:43:50,620 --> 00:43:52,960
so much I put my

714
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:55,180
right hand

715
00:44:03,540 --> 00:44:06,600
are. You can go into any Honky
Tonk in the world

716
00:44:15,300 --> 00:44:16,140
change,

717
00:44:19,020 --> 00:44:22,820
and then if they slow it down
and people want to get cozy,

718
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:30,500
real cross stick or a sample.
That was a sample actually good

719
00:44:30,500 --> 00:44:33,080
call, yeah. That was back when
we were still using

720
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:39,200
samples, yeah. And it was a
little error that we we all did

721
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:43,420
that, yeah? Well, I remember
with with Pam, I had a trigger

722
00:44:43,780 --> 00:44:47,620
bed, and I would have a nice
from the Elise's nice sample,

723
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,400
super clean. That way the front
of house guy could affect the

724
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,520
way he wanted, keep the snare
drum the way he wanted. And I

725
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,560
said, You know what? If I'm
going to do this, I'm going to

726
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,660
make a show out of it. So I put
that pad.

727
00:44:59,860 --> 00:44:59,920
I.

728
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,020
Of course, you are

729
00:45:02,460 --> 00:45:05,880
really, really high, you know,
I'm gonna do that with straight,

730
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,000
yeah, I need to do that. You
need to hanging bass drums

731
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,460
behind you where it says,
advertise here,

732
00:45:12,660 --> 00:45:15,900
slaughter. You know, in light of
the angel right before we

733
00:45:15,900 --> 00:45:16,380
started

734
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,720
touring with Aldean the,
basically the Aldean band,

735
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,260
backed up a girl named Amber
Dotson, and they were, they were

736
00:45:24,260 --> 00:45:28,520
trying to make her the next
Leanne Womack. And we did the

737
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:33,140
straight tour, and we got to do
four songs in front of straight

738
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,020
for months. And it was so cool.
And I got to play on Mike

739
00:45:36,020 --> 00:45:40,760
Kennedy's drums and and just a
really, really fun time. It was,

740
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,380
also was Amber Dawson, Dirks and
George Trey. This was 2000

741
00:45:46,540 --> 00:45:50,140
Wow, yeah, man, I bet that was
fun. Lot of fun. Can I tell you

742
00:45:50,140 --> 00:45:53,200
my kicks Brooks story? Yeah. So
we went to a Vandy game one

743
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,680
time, long time ago, and he was
walking around the perimeter. I

744
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,360
recognized him when I walked up
to him. And, you know, I'm an

745
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,140
idiot, so I'll tap him on the
shoulder and say hello, and he,

746
00:46:04,740 --> 00:46:07,320
you know, he turns around and he
kind of looks at me

747
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:14,280
like, I love your wine. He's
like, Thanks. It was, like, so

748
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,580
refreshing to it, man, yeah,
have you been out there? I

749
00:46:17,580 --> 00:46:20,840
haven't been out there. You
gotta go. It's all right, buddy,

750
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,320
my friend Mike, goes out there
all the time, does meetings out

751
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:29,600
there. Yeah, amazing. Let's go.
Let's we'll get an Uber out

752
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,820
there, perfect. And can we call
him right now, make him a

753
00:46:31,820 --> 00:46:35,060
sponsor of the show? I think we
need to. Yeah, I got his number.

754
00:46:35,060 --> 00:46:38,600
We'll call him. Yeah, we can
actually do it for the board, if

755
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,400
you want to do that. I don't
think so.

756
00:46:41,540 --> 00:46:44,380
You know, my experience like,
like, backing up celebrities.

757
00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:48,040
You know, it's like, I got to
back up Keith Urban on

758
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,320
television show. I got to back
up Brooks and down on a

759
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,660
television show. And you see all
these people backstage year

760
00:46:52,660 --> 00:46:55,720
after year. And you know, after
being here for 20 years, they'll

761
00:46:55,720 --> 00:46:59,560
give you the, you know, Reba
will always like, or, how are

762
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,520
you nice to see you? Or like, I
don't think she they know my

763
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,700
name. It's like, it's nice to be
in the same building with these

764
00:47:05,700 --> 00:47:08,700
celebrities, and they give you a
head nod. Like, year after year,

765
00:47:08,700 --> 00:47:13,740
this guy keeps showing up, so he
must be someone. But you never

766
00:47:13,740 --> 00:47:17,940
got gurmy with people. I know
that. You know the limit. I'm

767
00:47:17,940 --> 00:47:20,720
not that person. I'm not gonna
be like, nah. You're not gonna

768
00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:23,120
go up and tell them about your
latest business venture in

769
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,180
Haiti. You know, I love this
guy's passion, man, yeah, I

770
00:47:26,180 --> 00:47:29,960
just, I just get the biggest
kick out of you. Man, it's so

771
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,240
cool. Ronnie, what do you want
to find out about rich

772
00:47:32,780 --> 00:47:35,780
interview? Rich? I know a lot
about rich interview. Rich.

773
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,120
Hey, rich has got it going on.
I'll tell you what. I tell you

774
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,700
what? There's no secrets. I
share everything.

775
00:47:44,020 --> 00:47:47,380
You know when I, when I meet
people that are like, hey, my

776
00:47:47,380 --> 00:47:50,320
I'm, you know, I'm a private
person. I don't and I don't do

777
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,800
social media. I'm like, that's
amazing. I want to be you. That

778
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,160
would be so great. You just find
it exhausting sometimes. Well,

779
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,440
just keeping social media
happening, keeping all the balls

780
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,420
in the air, and doing all the
different things that I do,

781
00:48:01,420 --> 00:48:04,500
yeah, it does get a little time.
Does get a little time. You

782
00:48:04,500 --> 00:48:07,440
cover a lot of ground, bro,
yeah. Now you when I went to go

783
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,660
drink that entire pot of coffee
with you, and when we were

784
00:48:09,660 --> 00:48:12,060
hanging out, we were checking
out your Tama drums, all miked

785
00:48:12,060 --> 00:48:14,760
up and everything you said, you
might get into doing some

786
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,820
teaching. I have done that.
Yeah, I've got, I've got my

787
00:48:17,820 --> 00:48:21,020
camera, yeah, above it, I'm
getting there. Yeah, I'm kind of

788
00:48:21,020 --> 00:48:23,540
slow. You mean, like doing Skype
lessons and stuff like that,

789
00:48:23,540 --> 00:48:27,080
yeah, but I'm gonna count on you
when I just can't imagine

790
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,900
something. I'm calling this guy
right here when I'm ready to

791
00:48:29,900 --> 00:48:32,600
Skype lesson. This is the guy I
just can't imagine some kids

792
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,060
sitting in their bedroom in
Fargo, North Dakota with a drum

793
00:48:35,060 --> 00:48:38,120
set, looking at it and going, oh
my god, I can get on Skype. I

794
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,200
can connect with a guy that's
played on 118 number one songs.

795
00:48:41,260 --> 00:48:44,260
I could pick his brain. I can
ask him about what piccolo snare

796
00:48:44,260 --> 00:48:48,040
drum he used on, Hey, baby,
we're going to Vegas. Crazy. No,

797
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,460
I love that, you know, I just
got to do it. That's the world

798
00:48:51,460 --> 00:48:53,380
we're living in. And it's funny
that you're, you're, you're

799
00:48:53,380 --> 00:48:56,560
endorsing tama, which is like,
you know, the heavy metal you're

800
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,920
with a Yamaha drums for a long
time. And I remember having,

801
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:02,460
when I moved to Nashville with
that same drum set. It was a

802
00:49:02,460 --> 00:49:07,380
Yamaha maple custom with the
gold lugs. Yes, I had the smokey

803
00:49:07,380 --> 00:49:11,100
black one with the gold looks.
You had a green emerald green is

804
00:49:11,100 --> 00:49:15,360
nice. Yes, still have it I do.
Yeah, absolutely. And then what?

805
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,540
And what happened with Tama was
that Aaron vishrio, or one of

806
00:49:18,540 --> 00:49:22,640
the guys that asked you, it was
that at a Nam show, or, Yes, it

807
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:28,280
was Aaron and yes, it drum
paradise guys got me hooked up

808
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,580
with that, Harry and John, yeah,
John, Michael, so they took care

809
00:49:31,580 --> 00:49:31,760
of me.

810
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,500
Oh, man, they're my guys. Now,
have you been able to get a Tama

811
00:49:37,580 --> 00:49:42,460
vintage Bell brass out of them?
Not yet, yeah,

812
00:49:43,660 --> 00:49:43,900
$5,000

813
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,840
I'd have to pay a little bit for
that one. Yeah, the bubinga, is

814
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:54,220
that? What it is? The bubinga, I
don't have a bubinga, maple,

815
00:49:54,940 --> 00:49:59,080
maple, yeah, I was used to
Maple, so I didn't want to

816
00:49:59,080 --> 00:49:59,920
change too much.

817
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,880
Yeah, did you do you mingle with
some of the other town artists

818
00:50:02,940 --> 00:50:06,540
on occasion? Yeah, I was just
down visiting the guys at forks

819
00:50:06,540 --> 00:50:09,360
drum closet. They were here a
couple of weeks ago. Was down,

820
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:10,380
great guys, and

821
00:50:11,820 --> 00:50:15,000
so there weren't many other
drummers that particular day.

822
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,640
They were there for three or
four days. So it was great

823
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,260
hanging. I love the new drum
shop too. Yeah, Steve Maxwell,

824
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:25,520
acquired it from hair Gary, and
we just had Gary on the show. So

825
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:30,380
we had Harry and Gary on the
cons, and Franz, yeah, it was

826
00:50:30,620 --> 00:50:36,020
like Sean paddock is the drummer
for he plays. And then our buddy

827
00:50:36,020 --> 00:50:37,040
Jeff Marino with

828
00:50:39,020 --> 00:50:42,880
one of my hoodie, who's Hootie?
One of my favorite all time?

829
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,300
Tama Hootie in the blowfish, no,
Harry's Rucker, sugar,

830
00:50:48,100 --> 00:50:52,360
favorite all time. Tama artists
has been Charlie Benante, yeah,

831
00:50:52,420 --> 00:50:56,320
from anthrax. Loved his play.
Did you great? Oh, he's a great

832
00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:01,080
player, you know, yes, not crazy
about that music, but you know,

833
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,560
it's colorful music, you know,
and he writes a lot of it.

834
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:05,160
You're colorful.

835
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:12,720
I'm wearing all black. I'm
wearing from my unstylish jMv,

836
00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:17,580
ocean. Now, we just had us, we
just had a stylist, a custom

837
00:51:17,580 --> 00:51:20,600
tailor. I don't know if you know
McGill. He runs only one

838
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,480
tailoring down on Wedgwood and
eighth. And

839
00:51:24,620 --> 00:51:28,040
very stylish man sitting next to
these two. He's very stylish,

840
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,920
stylish. And I come in looking
like, you know, Mr. Dad Bod over

841
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,220
here, with my collared shirt and
my jeans and, you know,

842
00:51:34,220 --> 00:51:37,760
whatever, right? You know, I
mean, it's, you're more stylish

843
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,720
than I am. I mean, my codico
shirt on this, you know, at the

844
00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:43,120
end of that show, I felt like I
had to crawl into my ashtray.

845
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,180
Are you tequila guy? George
Drake gave us these shirts

846
00:51:46,540 --> 00:51:50,080
because he is part our owner in
this company. Oh, really, yeah,

847
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,560
all these celebrities are buying
up vodka companies and tequila

848
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,220
companies and wine you need to
start your own cigar company.

849
00:51:57,220 --> 00:51:59,560
Rich. That'd be great. You know,
I don't know if you're a cigar

850
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,320
guy. The red moon, not

851
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:07,020
it's not a good habit you want
to pick up, but think of the red

852
00:52:07,020 --> 00:52:10,920
moon. It'd be great. And it's
like a drumstick. I don't know,

853
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:11,100
but

854
00:52:13,620 --> 00:52:16,320
I'm gonna, I'm gonna make that's
a, that's a great idea.

855
00:52:17,700 --> 00:52:20,720
I have a lot of great ideas.
Couple other names. James

856
00:52:20,720 --> 00:52:23,780
Stroud, James Brown, James
Stroud, great drummer. Played on

857
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,960
rock and roll, right? Didn't he
think he did? Yeah, and he also

858
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:31,280
played on, remember Eddie
rabbit, those? Eddie rabbit, I

859
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,340
love a rainy night. He played on
that, yes, he produced,

860
00:52:35,420 --> 00:52:39,320
oh gosh, he played on Paul Davis
records. I'll go crazy. Remember

861
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:44,920
that? Yes, I'll go crazy, man. I
go crazy. I go crazy. Let me

862
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,520
pull that up. Paul Davis, check
out. I mean, James man, so who

863
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:52,180
played on a lot of like Willie
Nelson and Eddie rabbit stuff.

864
00:52:52,180 --> 00:52:54,100
It was it like Larry London and
Larry

865
00:52:55,780 --> 00:52:59,740
some of that, probably. But
James was the cool thing about

866
00:52:59,740 --> 00:53:05,340
James, he he wound up being
producing a lot of records, and

867
00:53:05,340 --> 00:53:08,400
I wound up working with him,
which was a thrill, yeah, and

868
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,580
it's fun working with a drummer
producer, because he's, you

869
00:53:11,580 --> 00:53:15,120
know, it's like, we're, you
know, we're on the same plane,

870
00:53:15,780 --> 00:53:20,060
but, yeah, I'll go crazy. It
says that record was cut to a

871
00:53:20,060 --> 00:53:24,920
Lin drum, and then James, and
then went back and replaced real

872
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,080
drums. But that particular
record,

873
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,460
I remember being in college when
that record was out, and it was

874
00:53:31,460 --> 00:53:36,140
like, man, it just freaking
didn't move. It was like, this

875
00:53:36,140 --> 00:53:40,340
is when this list on you put on
you want to score. No doubt.

876
00:53:40,460 --> 00:53:42,400
Yeah, there's the chorus.
Chicken.

877
00:53:46,060 --> 00:53:47,920
Why don't we light some candles?

878
00:53:48,940 --> 00:53:53,380
I mean, man, want to sit down
Paul Davis's voice. Forget about

879
00:53:53,380 --> 00:53:58,780
Yeah. Now, when I moved to town,
also, another gig I picked up

880
00:53:58,780 --> 00:54:02,400
pretty early on was a group on
giant records called Regina.

881
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,580
Regina. Oh, yeah, and James
strat produced him. Did you

882
00:54:05,580 --> 00:54:09,300
play? I did. It was like, a lot
of back, yes, boom, yes,

883
00:54:10,380 --> 00:54:14,460
student of all that stuff. And I
would, I would play along to

884
00:54:14,460 --> 00:54:17,100
your recordings, and I would
transcribe the recordings, and I

885
00:54:17,100 --> 00:54:20,280
would steal the, you know, they
say the good composers borrow,

886
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,540
but great composers steal. So as
a drummer, I would steal from

887
00:54:23,540 --> 00:54:27,620
you and Eddie and Paul and
everyone you put it in. And you

888
00:54:27,620 --> 00:54:30,800
know, I remember also when, you
know, Jim Riley and I moved here

889
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,340
the same week in the same year,
1997 and we were listening,

890
00:54:34,340 --> 00:54:37,340
watching CMT and the Dixie
Chicks had their first single

891
00:54:37,340 --> 00:54:40,540
out. We were like, is that
Eddie? Is that Lonnie? He goes,

892
00:54:40,540 --> 00:54:43,420
No, it sounds a little
different. We looked up awesome

893
00:54:43,420 --> 00:54:47,140
guy named Greg Moore, another
great player, you know, yes,

894
00:54:47,140 --> 00:54:52,180
yes, you guys are responsible
for so much Sonic identity on

895
00:54:52,180 --> 00:54:55,900
the radio. For the last 30
years, it was, it's been great.

896
00:54:56,020 --> 00:54:59,440
So much fun, man and Eddie, man,
yeah, man, Eddie bears. Gosh, we

897
00:54:59,440 --> 00:54:59,920
had so much.

898
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,060
Fun. Well, Larry took him under
his wing. Yeah, you mentioned

899
00:55:03,060 --> 00:55:05,460
Larry, yes. And he said there
was this big, burly guy that

900
00:55:05,460 --> 00:55:07,860
came and he was wearing a
Hawaiian shirt, and he said,

901
00:55:07,860 --> 00:55:13,260
you're my guy. Yes, you know. So
he mentored him absolutely, I'm

902
00:55:13,260 --> 00:55:16,320
going blank guy who played on
all the James Taylor hits back

903
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:20,280
in the Oh Russ Kunkel, Russ,
dude, yeah, I've been trying to

904
00:55:20,460 --> 00:55:24,200
I love see it's, I need more
coffee. I'm not awake.

905
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,460
Sorry, Russ, you're one of my
biggest influences. Yeah,

906
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:32,420
seriously. Russ Kunkel, come on,
man. Big surfer, oh my gosh, big

907
00:55:32,420 --> 00:55:37,040
surfer. And I met him the first
George Strait gig I did in

908
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,500
Vegas. Yeah, I love it. And

909
00:55:42,940 --> 00:55:45,700
I hadn't seen Russ in a long
time, but he's cool. He's got

910
00:55:45,700 --> 00:55:48,520
the shaved head now, and yep,
and he was kind of sitting his

911
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,100
drums up. And I went and
introduced myself. I didn't know

912
00:55:51,100 --> 00:55:55,180
who he was, and I just like I
was, became like a drum germ

913
00:55:55,300 --> 00:56:00,400
immediately, because James
Taylor and big Linda Ronstadt,

914
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,100
yes. And who else?

915
00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:06,540
Jackson Brown. Jackson Brown,
running on empty. Out, yeah,

916
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:11,580
running on Russ. Force gun on
me. Good job. I mean, big, big

917
00:56:11,580 --> 00:56:13,920
influence. Good job. Russ. And
I, you know, he's asked people

918
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,200
what their hobbies are, what
their interests are. He's always

919
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,200
been a big surfer. And I asked
him, I said, you ever worry

920
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:24,020
about the sharks? And he goes.
They're always there. They'll

921
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,020
always be there. Like I'm in the
music business, yeah, you need

922
00:56:27,020 --> 00:56:30,020
your arms, you need your legs.
But some people love it so much.

923
00:56:30,020 --> 00:56:34,760
They love surfing so much. They
will risk life in limb sky,

924
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,000
doing it. Look at skydiving.
Yeah, I don't know very many

925
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,080
drummers. I dive.

926
00:56:40,460 --> 00:56:45,760
Well, you look at I have, I have
a guy that cuts my lawn. I make,

927
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,980
I make phone calls, I don't
change my oil.

928
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:55,120
Check for that check that makes
the people do my things.

929
00:56:58,240 --> 00:57:01,500
So what is what what is on the
horizon for you. What are you

930
00:57:01,500 --> 00:57:02,400
excited about?

931
00:57:03,420 --> 00:57:07,620
Well, what am I excited about?
You got a good pension, right

932
00:57:07,620 --> 00:57:12,120
from the union all those, not
bad, yeah. I mean,

933
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,740
I still got to work, bro. Yeah.
Still have to Yeah. Gotta show

934
00:57:16,740 --> 00:57:19,860
up. Gotta show up. Coming off
those 200 million spins you got.

935
00:57:19,860 --> 00:57:24,680
You got $1 recharge. I wish. Are
you married to the same woman?

936
00:57:24,740 --> 00:57:27,680
Yes, my sweet wife, Donna.
That's beautiful. I remembered

937
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,980
her name. So yeah, you better
not forget that one. I need to

938
00:57:30,980 --> 00:57:33,680
write down all this stuff.
What's the anniversary coming

939
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:38,360
up? 28th of September. Get out
around the corner, sir. 22nd for

940
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,980
us, it'll be Yeah, good. And how
many years was that? Let's see

941
00:57:42,700 --> 00:57:42,940
3434

942
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,880
man, amen. You guys will see
that 50th. Easy man, I hope so.

943
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,240
My parents are celebrating this
month their 51st wedding.

944
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:57,760
Congratulations. And I need to
get them something big, because

945
00:57:57,940 --> 00:58:01,980
for the 50th that's a big party.
I'm the first born that is a big

946
00:58:01,980 --> 00:58:07,080
party, so I set up this amazing
party. All my relatives were

947
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:11,100
coming in. Al Dean. We had a
show that got rained out, and

948
00:58:11,100 --> 00:58:14,940
the makeup date was on the night
of the party. I had to scrap the

949
00:58:14,940 --> 00:58:19,200
whole party. So I got to do
something epic for my parents.

950
00:58:19,380 --> 00:58:22,280
Brick of sticks, signed drum
head, signed photo and a 30

951
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,560
minute coaching session with
you. So silly. No,

952
00:58:25,580 --> 00:58:28,700
my parents are gonna kill by
that. I need to send them on a

953
00:58:28,700 --> 00:58:32,000
on a cruise. I need to buy them
diamond encrusted something.

954
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,420
Yes, you do to send them a car.
Definitely do. I love hard. I

955
00:58:35,420 --> 00:58:38,720
love you. No, that's not good.
What's going on with you, man? I

956
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:42,220
mean, the Aldine thing is just
kicking obviously. What else

957
00:58:42,220 --> 00:58:44,800
we're on our ninth record. So
that's a body of work there. I'm

958
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,860
super grateful. You know, talk
about a team of people that keep

959
00:58:47,860 --> 00:58:50,920
champion. You heard the new
single? We back? I have not

960
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:54,820
heard it. Oh my here. It's a
great tune. And Jim and I just

961
00:58:54,820 --> 00:58:58,000
we have a contest where we are
getting the kids to play their

962
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,320
own version of the fill in this
song. There's like, a part of

963
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,900
the song where there's, like,
one of those sexy films

964
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,640
gotta loop on everything, right?
Oh, yeah, I love loops.

965
00:59:20,220 --> 00:59:23,540
Where's a guy in steel toes
covered in dirt, just back in

966
00:59:23,540 --> 00:59:25,100
black, getting blasted into
bleachers.

967
00:59:26,420 --> 00:59:30,020
It's probably true what my mama
said. I do it just like my daddy

968
00:59:30,140 --> 00:59:31,460
did. We back, we

969
00:59:33,140 --> 00:59:34,400
back, we back in

970
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,680
a saddle back on stage, making
the whole place rail back

971
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,540
with the A train on the track.
Thought we were gone, but you

972
00:59:49,540 --> 00:59:52,300
wrong. Where's the fill? You got
that coming up?

973
00:59:57,820 --> 00:59:59,800
Yeah, it's coming up. Everything
good comes.

974
01:00:00,420 --> 01:00:02,220
Back around to stretch the two
bars.

975
01:00:13,260 --> 01:00:15,720
We're asking the kids to, like,
what would you do during those

976
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,900
two measures? Right? And then we
pick a winner, and then they'll

977
01:00:18,900 --> 01:00:23,000
get, like, some fun stuff. Yes,
a brick of sticks, a signed drum

978
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:27,260
head, a signed picture and a 30
minute coaching session never

979
01:00:27,260 --> 01:00:30,380
gets it doesn't get old hearing
yourself in the supermarket or

980
01:00:30,380 --> 01:00:34,520
in an elevator or in somebody's
car. It's so cool, man, because

981
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:38,540
we worked our whole lives. It
was fun. We went camping last

982
01:00:38,540 --> 01:00:42,460
weekend, and my Jim's thing, you
like camping. My kids come that

983
01:00:42,460 --> 01:00:45,040
we went to a potluck at the
campground with a group of

984
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,620
people that we went with, and
the kids went into their camper.

985
01:00:47,620 --> 01:00:50,380
They had the TV there, so they
were watching TV, and they come

986
01:00:50,380 --> 01:00:55,840
running out. We're going, dad,
yeah, we just heard you on TV.

987
01:00:56,380 --> 01:00:58,960
Your voice, yeah, for a
commercial, commercial that came

988
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,880
on. That's a big deal. You were
talking about mesothelioma. And

989
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:07,680
I'm going, I said Bart Durham.
They go, yeah. I'm going, Yeah,

990
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,140
that's right. I got a great
story about Bart Durham. So you

991
01:01:10,140 --> 01:01:12,840
know, you see here around
Nashville, you see Bart Durham's

992
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,420
face on park benches, on the
side of busses, on the side of

993
01:01:15,420 --> 01:01:20,120
billboards. So here I am, one of
my favorite places on Earth, my

994
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:23,600
favorite little eatery in
Malibu, California, right? So

995
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,000
I'm getting something that's
green. There's greens on top of

996
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:30,260
greens. And I go to the bathroom
to wash my hands. And peeing

997
01:01:30,260 --> 01:01:32,540
next to me is bar Durham.

998
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:37,520
And I said, mistaken from the
camp mannequin. He goes, he

999
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:41,200
goes, he gives me one of these
things. And I go, Hey, Bart, I

1000
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,720
recognize you man from all over
Nashville. I live in Nashville.

1001
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,480
I said, What do you live in
Malibu? Yeah, you know, my son

1002
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:50,380
took over the business and I
moved here. So he's just, like,

1003
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:52,660
just wiping his hands with $100

1004
01:01:53,980 --> 01:01:57,580
pretty much. That's a small
world. And, yeah, it's just, you

1005
01:01:57,580 --> 01:02:00,720
know, it's, it's, whenever my
kids hear me, it's a little bit

1006
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:04,080
of ambulance chasing, ambulance
chaser disclaimers that I do

1007
01:02:04,260 --> 01:02:07,500
totally. Jim actually inspired
me, like a couple, like, 11

1008
01:02:07,500 --> 01:02:10,020
years ago, I met him on MySpace,
and I said, I want to kind of

1009
01:02:10,020 --> 01:02:13,260
see if there's anything to this
voiceover thing. So I took some

1010
01:02:13,260 --> 01:02:15,660
lessons with a another guy,
because I don't know if I think

1011
01:02:15,660 --> 01:02:18,720
I could take him seriously as a
teacher. It's like a parent

1012
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,920
trying to teach their kid. So I
went to someone else, and I took

1013
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,680
a voiceover lessons, and I have
a reel, and it's me doing

1014
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,620
disclaimers and financials and
car commercials in a faux

1015
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:31,100
McDonald's commercial and a faux
target commercial. Yeah, it's

1016
01:02:31,100 --> 01:02:34,760
pretty fun. I need to put a best
of Jim McCarthy video together,

1017
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:38,720
like we Oh, Lonnie, has you have
a great video on on YouTube of

1018
01:02:38,780 --> 01:02:40,840
all your your baby boy did?
That,

1019
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:45,160
man, I sat there, I think you
sent us to me because you wanted

1020
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,400
a video similar to that, and you
wanted me to check this out.

1021
01:02:48,580 --> 01:02:54,220
Yeah, and I go, I watched it,
and I was going, Oh my gosh. It

1022
01:02:54,220 --> 01:02:58,000
just kept on going. I know
that's Thank you, Dallas, you

1023
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:02,820
guys out there in in radio land.
Listen to look up on YouTube,

1024
01:03:02,820 --> 01:03:08,340
Lonnie Wilson drums hits 2016
it's got four and a half 1000

1025
01:03:08,340 --> 01:03:11,100
views. And there's also another
one that's got 10,000 views,

1026
01:03:11,100 --> 01:03:15,120
that's called Lonnie Wilson
session drummer radio singles.

1027
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,640
Yeah, that's one you sent them.
And you can get a real sense of

1028
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,840
every all the Martina, all the
faith, all the Joe Diffie all

1029
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:24,200
the rascal flats, wow. Let's
just put in the description that

1030
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:28,100
was my baby boy. Dallas did that
for me. It's a little gift. And

1031
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,440
I would have, you know, never
done anything. So Dallas writes

1032
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,500
songs, and he's in the
videography business. And your

1033
01:03:33,500 --> 01:03:36,260
daughters, he was in college in
at the time, yeah, doing

1034
01:03:36,260 --> 01:03:39,440
projects. And so he might have
done it for a class project or

1035
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:40,340
something. So

1036
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:47,980
do you know who my dad is, type
of project? Yeah, he's, it's

1037
01:03:47,980 --> 01:03:50,320
fun, you know, it's fun having
kids that.

1038
01:03:51,340 --> 01:03:54,940
I mean, the music business is
tough as y'all know, yes, tough

1039
01:03:54,940 --> 01:03:59,740
man. But you know, he's with a
good bunch of guys, his own

1040
01:03:59,740 --> 01:04:02,520
business. Mitchell 10 Penny.
Want to give him a shout out.

1041
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:07,980
Mitchell was has a very he was
basically the connection for

1042
01:04:07,980 --> 01:04:12,240
Dallas and his publishing deal.
And Mitchell's coming off a

1043
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:16,140
number one single, drunk me,
phenomenal record, fantastic.

1044
01:04:16,140 --> 01:04:19,860
And I've played on a couple of
Mitchell's new tracks on his new

1045
01:04:19,860 --> 01:04:24,080
record, right? So, so Dallas is
also writing songs. Oh, yeah,

1046
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:28,160
yeah, yeah. He's actually
pretty, pretty much full time

1047
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:32,300
music. You guys write together.
We do a little bit. I need to

1048
01:04:32,300 --> 01:04:34,820
jump in there. He's getting hot,
man. I got to get in there, in

1049
01:04:34,820 --> 01:04:38,060
the room with him. Yeah. You say
hey, you know, I raised you

1050
01:04:39,020 --> 01:04:41,980
writing session. He keeps trying
to, he's like, Dad, come on, you

1051
01:04:41,980 --> 01:04:46,180
got to show up. I said, I know,
I know. I've written songs so

1052
01:04:46,180 --> 01:04:51,280
long, yeah, it's just I've taken
quite a hiatus, probably pretty

1053
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,980
much for the last 10 years.
Yeah, I haven't written near as

1054
01:04:53,980 --> 01:04:59,200
much. And just trying to, you
know, enjoy, slow down, get out

1055
01:04:59,200 --> 01:04:59,920
and play live.

1056
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,100
And what Lake Do you like to go
down on?

1057
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,700
Well, center Hill was our lake
for a long time, but we're at

1058
01:05:05,700 --> 01:05:10,260
temps forward now. That's a
popular destination. Yeah, it's

1059
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:14,700
great. It's deep. Yeah, it is.
It's similar center Hill, but

1060
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,520
yeah, a little closer to where
we live now. So you have a

1061
01:05:17,940 --> 01:05:21,740
Stingray, or we have, we're
members of the boat club. So,

1062
01:05:21,740 --> 01:05:26,660
right, okay, a member of a
country club. I'm a member

1063
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:29,660
these.

1064
01:05:30,860 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaking of songwriting, I ran
this by this idea, by the guys

1065
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:38,480
in Parma Lee, and they thought
it was a bad idea for a song,

1066
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:44,140
a song about writing a song, I
think it's too inside.

1067
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:47,140
Oh, that

1068
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:48,700
was

1069
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:51,460
trash.

1070
01:05:54,580 --> 01:05:55,480
I'm guessing.

1071
01:05:57,340 --> 01:05:58,060
Steve Turner,

1072
01:05:59,980 --> 01:06:02,760
another great player. Great
player. Played with Dolly for a

1073
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,940
long time, played on all of
Travis's records back then, just

1074
01:06:06,300 --> 01:06:09,300
great. Turner kills it. We're
friends on Facebook, but like,

1075
01:06:09,300 --> 01:06:12,360
sometimes it's like, you know,
Facebook is a wonderful tool to

1076
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,120
like, open the door to
relationships, but it takes the

1077
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:19,140
effort to like, meet in real
time. But, you know, always wish

1078
01:06:19,140 --> 01:06:21,620
him a happy birthday on his
birthday. And I know that he

1079
01:06:21,620 --> 01:06:24,800
would love to get together
sometime, but we just are all so

1080
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,620
busy running around. You know,
you definitely should introduce

1081
01:06:27,620 --> 01:06:32,720
him. Great drummer. Yeah, killer
harder and Tommy wells, God rest

1082
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:36,260
his soul. Tommy. Well, sweet to
me absolutely. I took a drumming

1083
01:06:36,260 --> 01:06:39,320
class with Tommy wells and Jerry
croon. And I thought about

1084
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,520
another great player, Jerry crew
man, had a big influence on me,

1085
01:06:42,940 --> 01:06:43,120
on

1086
01:06:44,140 --> 01:06:48,280
the Vern Gostin records and all
the Earl Thomas, yeah. So I

1087
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,220
thought about him yesterday,
funeral, yes. And I was

1088
01:06:51,220 --> 01:06:54,580
wondering if he was out there in
the audience when. And I haven't

1089
01:06:54,580 --> 01:06:57,160
heard from Jerry in a long time,
you know? I hope he's okay. He's

1090
01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:00,600
doing okay. Yeah, yeah. Saw him
in a union meeting recently.

1091
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:04,680
He's looking good, man, still,
you got a lot of energy. Because

1092
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,740
I remember when I met him 23
years ago, he said, I'm gonna

1093
01:07:07,740 --> 01:07:12,060
retire. And that was 23 years
ago. He's not gonna retire.

1094
01:07:12,060 --> 01:07:12,360
Yeah,

1095
01:07:13,620 --> 01:07:17,520
well, I mean, who's? None of us.
What creative person. What are

1096
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:21,380
we gonna do? We love what we do.
I mean, you know, hey, you have

1097
01:07:21,380 --> 01:07:25,280
your you have your day in the
sun in this business, if you're

1098
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:30,200
fortunate, you know. And you
just, you know, eventually

1099
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,260
you're, you're gonna wind up
here or wind up there, and

1100
01:07:33,260 --> 01:07:37,760
you're not, maybe the guy that
you were at one time. But man,

1101
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,100
if you, if you even come close
to being

1102
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:47,200
a first call on anything in this
business. Enjoy it and and be

1103
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,740
grateful for it, you know, and
be humble about it. Gratitude

1104
01:07:50,740 --> 01:07:53,440
and humility are something that
Jim and I talk about a lot with

1105
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,380
nearly every guest. You're one
of the product ideas you had was

1106
01:07:56,380 --> 01:07:59,440
gratitude rocks, a gratitude
rock, like gratitude rocks,

1107
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,040
potential rocks, it's a rock,
and you put it in your in your

1108
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,400
in your pocket, and when you go
to grab your change or your

1109
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:09,480
keys, you feel that rock, and it
reminds you to be grateful for

1110
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,780
everything you have. That's
right? Like this other idea I

1111
01:08:12,780 --> 01:08:16,860
have for a song, right? I brand
this by the guys at Parma, Lee

1112
01:08:16,860 --> 01:08:21,380
again, yes, bearish, rich again,
yeah. But what if you were to

1113
01:08:21,380 --> 01:08:24,740
make a song about the most
mundane of things, like ironing?

1114
01:08:24,740 --> 01:08:27,860
I think it'd be good for like a
children's show, but I don't

1115
01:08:27,860 --> 01:08:30,320
think people, like soccer moms
are gonna want to listen to

1116
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:33,080
that. They want us. They want to
listen to see that shirt over

1117
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:34,820
there. It's really wrinkled.

1118
01:08:36,260 --> 01:08:39,020
You got to get the iron. You
should get right jingles. You're

1119
01:08:39,020 --> 01:08:42,640
a jingle right? Jingles? Yeah,
you cannot get this mind out of

1120
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,580
marketing and advertising.
You're a marketing and

1121
01:08:45,580 --> 01:08:49,840
advertising jingle stuff. Oh, my
God. Well, this is so fun, dude.

1122
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:53,320
I could sit here all day. You
know, I'm leaving out so many

1123
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,480
people. That's the thing. I
mean, I've tried, I've got a

1124
01:08:55,480 --> 01:08:58,720
million names, you know, like,
Russ cockle, like, I sat here,

1125
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:02,640
like, who's one of my big but
you know when, when you're

1126
01:09:02,820 --> 01:09:05,700
sitting there with you guys, you
know you're on the spot. I need

1127
01:09:05,700 --> 01:09:09,900
my cheat sheet. Is Neil one of
the influences? Oh yeah. Well,

1128
01:09:09,900 --> 01:09:13,200
definitely. I mean, gotta say I,
you know,

1129
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:16,680
I like guys. I'm a fan of of

1130
01:09:17,940 --> 01:09:22,640
of guys like Russ and James and
and Picard, who was to me that

1131
01:09:22,700 --> 01:09:25,940
John Robinson, maybe, oh,
studio, great player. Love Jr,

1132
01:09:25,940 --> 01:09:29,420
yeah. I mean, those kind of guys
that just freaking lock it down,

1133
01:09:29,480 --> 01:09:33,140
yeah, that's, that's what,
that's what moves me, you know,

1134
01:09:33,140 --> 01:09:37,820
and makes gets me excited. And,
I mean, I love guys. I could sit

1135
01:09:37,820 --> 01:09:42,280
there and watch guys who, you
know, can burn and Lister and,

1136
01:09:42,340 --> 01:09:45,280
you know, like this guy, I mean,
it's just like, like, Virgil

1137
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:48,640
Donati, yeah, there's guys that
play was way denser than, I

1138
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:52,360
mean, like, the years go by.
Thomas Lang play less and less.

1139
01:09:52,540 --> 01:09:55,660
Oh, who are some other greats
that come to mind that are just

1140
01:09:55,660 --> 01:09:58,960
like, level Well, you know, for
tutor missions, yeah. I mean,

1141
01:09:58,960 --> 01:09:59,920
when I think of Thomas.

1142
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,060
Lying. You know, I taught one of
his camps. There's those

1143
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:06,780
kind of guys. These guys can do
anything with their Steve Smith

1144
01:10:06,780 --> 01:10:08,220
with their feet. Yes, yeah,

1145
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:12,780
a castron ovo. And it's funny,
this is a very unpopular I put

1146
01:10:12,780 --> 01:10:15,600
this out on Facebook one time,
and it just disturbed the pot. I

1147
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:18,180
said, you know, I got to say it,
guys, I know Smith is the

1148
01:10:18,300 --> 01:10:21,800
defining drummer of journey, but
Castronovo blows him out of the

1149
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:22,220
water

1150
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:26,600
well, and I'll say that you
guys, he brought it like a

1151
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:32,420
visceral, sweaty, oh my gosh, he
too, yeah, he brought energy to

1152
01:10:32,420 --> 01:10:36,320
that band, and then, like, it's
Carmen efficacy. I love Carmine.

1153
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:40,540
I saw him when I was a freshman
in high school. He came to our

1154
01:10:40,540 --> 01:10:41,080
local

1155
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:45,460
music store, and it was just
like a freshman in high school.

1156
01:10:45,460 --> 01:10:49,720
Oh, Tommy Aldrich, yeah. Oh
yeah. Black Oak, Arkansas, yeah.

1157
01:10:49,900 --> 01:10:50,560
Let me

1158
01:10:53,740 --> 01:10:54,040
ask

1159
01:10:56,260 --> 01:10:59,440
you this, yeah. Do you listen to
Jason Bonham stuff he's playing

1160
01:10:59,440 --> 01:11:01,440
with Hagar? Yeah? He's great. Or
Hagar

1161
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:07,260
son, oh, Zach Starkey with the
who, yeah, yeah. And my bum, one

1162
01:11:07,260 --> 01:11:09,540
of my buddies from college, is
playing bass with the who right

1163
01:11:09,540 --> 01:11:12,780
now. It's like everybody went
out. I was in college with Keith

1164
01:11:12,780 --> 01:11:14,580
Carlock. I mean, imagine filling
in

1165
01:11:17,220 --> 01:11:21,800
place. I watch him play, and
let's go. I mean, it's amazing.

1166
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:26,180
It's mind boggling. Business.
Dad, I love Greg the other, the

1167
01:11:26,180 --> 01:11:28,880
other one that comes to mind
that blew my mind. Never heard

1168
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:32,360
of the guy before? Tony
verderosa, you was the

1169
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,900
triggering guy? Yeah, he did
amazing. Disappeared off the

1170
01:11:35,900 --> 01:11:38,300
face of the there's a guy that
played on he did a Twix

1171
01:11:38,300 --> 01:11:38,840
commercial.

1172
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:46,360
What's his name for your love I
got back in the 70s. Gino

1173
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:51,640
Vannelli. Gino Vanilli. That was
That dude, Mark Craney. That

1174
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:54,880
dude, Mark crane big influence
of, you know, that era. Here we

1175
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,820
go to Stevie Dan records. You
know, I really come to

1176
01:11:57,820 --> 01:12:00,900
appreciate since I I've been
able to sit down and talk with

1177
01:12:00,900 --> 01:12:04,740
him quite a bit. I did a podcast
with him as well. Sandy Gennaro

1178
01:12:06,780 --> 01:12:09,480
last night, seen him on
Facebook. He's living here.

1179
01:12:09,540 --> 01:12:14,400
Yeah, just old Italian guy
crashed in that room right over

1180
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,920
there, living in Long Island and
teaching at the drummer's

1181
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:19,440
collective. I said, You gotta
move here, man. He crashed in

1182
01:12:19,440 --> 01:12:22,100
the bedroom for a week, and he's
like, yeah, here's President

1183
01:12:22,100 --> 01:12:22,400
brother.

1184
01:12:30,740 --> 01:12:34,280
Yeah, see, that's what I was.
What kind of style would you

1185
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:37,820
love to be able to pull off?
Like, I mean, I love that stuff,

1186
01:12:37,820 --> 01:12:40,780
yeah. I mean, I'd have to, I'd
have to wit shit. Oh yeah, I'd

1187
01:12:40,780 --> 01:12:45,820
have to, I'd have to pick it up
to play that stuff. Play it

1188
01:12:45,820 --> 01:12:49,660
right, you know? But I love that
town and power dude, Tower of

1189
01:12:50,260 --> 01:12:53,080
garibaldi. Garibaldi come off.
You know what's really funny,

1190
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:53,860
Steve Ferroni,

1191
01:12:55,540 --> 01:12:58,780
I and who was the guy, who was
the first guy on average wife

1192
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:02,640
passed away. He was, he was
amazing, too. Average white fan.

1193
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,160
Those were, I used to know all
this stuff, like most people

1194
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:08,100
know football teams. Yeah, I
used to be able to call up. I

1195
01:13:08,100 --> 01:13:11,160
mean, I could see the the images
in the magazine. I could tell

1196
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:12,420
you what drummer played, what

1197
01:13:13,500 --> 01:13:17,640
symbols, sticks, everything,
whoever played, who the dude who

1198
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:19,260
played with three dog night.

1199
01:13:21,660 --> 01:13:24,620
Man was a great player still,
probably still is,

1200
01:13:26,660 --> 01:13:29,060
anyway, that guy I got to meet,
what's

1201
01:13:33,740 --> 01:13:38,660
going around? Yeah, yeah, this
is normal guy I saw Carmine my

1202
01:13:38,660 --> 01:13:41,260
freshman year of high school,
too, with a band called King

1203
01:13:41,260 --> 01:13:43,840
Cobra. Was like it was the
height of heavy metal. Yeah, it

1204
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:47,080
was his own little side project.
But speaking of drummers that

1205
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:52,360
write songs, Carmine wrote the
bridge on this song.

1206
01:13:57,100 --> 01:14:00,780
No way. If you think I'm sexy,
no way. God Stewart, so let's

1207
01:14:00,780 --> 01:14:03,720
see if we can find the bridge.
He's probably played on that

1208
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:05,700
right. Carmine, yes, Carmen,

1209
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:10,440
here we go. He came up with this

1210
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:12,600
melody.

1211
01:14:20,700 --> 01:14:21,260
He did

1212
01:14:23,180 --> 01:14:26,540
that melody. Wow. What a hook.
That was a big old hit.

1213
01:14:28,340 --> 01:14:29,660
This reminds me of the movie.

1214
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:34,820
So I Married an ax murderer
where Mike Myers is the Scottish

1215
01:14:34,820 --> 01:14:38,660
father. He's like, if you like
my body, and it's like the guy

1216
01:14:38,660 --> 01:14:41,980
playing the bagpipes along with
it, we got a Piper down. We got

1217
01:14:41,980 --> 01:14:45,040
a Piper down. Yeah, so you guys
remember, okay, Grand Funk,

1218
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,860
railroad drummer, oh, Don
Brewer,

1219
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:51,520
there's another one of my
biggest influence. I met him in

1220
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:55,420
Vegas. Phenomenal player, real
nice guy, thank you, yeah. See,

1221
01:14:55,420 --> 01:14:58,420
I should have made my list. You
guys are bringing up great

1222
01:14:58,840 --> 01:14:59,080
names.

1223
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,160
One of the things that you know,
one of the most underrated

1224
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:06,360
drummers that we think in the
longest time doesn't get us due

1225
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:11,160
is Alex Van Halen. Oh yeah,
gosh, great

1226
01:15:13,860 --> 01:15:14,520
drummer.

1227
01:15:17,580 --> 01:15:21,740
How could that not be a saying?
So good. Oh, great singer. And

1228
01:15:21,740 --> 01:15:25,820
then this is what got me really,
really stomping music, making

1229
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,420
play foot stomping music, okay,
grandfather, let me say here,

1230
01:15:29,420 --> 01:15:34,940
Van Halen, 1984 this right here.
What is that one? This, Van

1231
01:15:34,940 --> 01:15:37,940
Halen. Are they gonna play fat
Gilly? Are they on Spotify?

1232
01:15:37,940 --> 01:15:40,540
Who's here should be Van Halen

1233
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:45,700
and this really, I mean, say
what you want, but that just got

1234
01:15:45,700 --> 01:15:48,700
me I want to play music for my
life. I agree, iconic. It's a

1235
01:15:48,700 --> 01:15:51,400
great record. Now, what do you

1236
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:54,400
want? What was it?

1237
01:15:55,540 --> 01:15:59,080
Fat Killy was stopping music?
Yeah, fit something music.

1238
01:15:59,620 --> 01:16:04,260
Grandfather, that was my radio
name fat Kelly. Oh, my God, foot

1239
01:16:04,260 --> 01:16:05,880
stomping music, yes,

1240
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:12,240
shuffle. We don't hear shuffles
a lot anymore. That was

1241
01:16:15,060 --> 01:16:16,860
van halens. Got one like that
too.

1242
01:16:18,300 --> 01:16:21,480
Well, there's nothing new in
music. It's all been done.

1243
01:16:22,500 --> 01:16:24,440
Everybody. Done. Carl Palmer,

1244
01:16:38,300 --> 01:16:41,080
for those of you listening, you
got to watch this part of the

1245
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:43,240
video, because they're just
grooving to this right now. It's

1246
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:47,080
hilarious. They're really loving
this beautiful Oh, but that's,

1247
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:51,280
that's center swing from Van
Halen to Doom, Doom to doom to

1248
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:54,160
doom to doom to do. It's the
same groove. Yeah, yeah. All

1249
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:57,700
right, gotta find some, some
rust. Kunkel, here. Wow. Okay,

1250
01:16:57,700 --> 01:16:58,900
here we go. Let's say, let's
see.

1251
01:16:59,920 --> 01:17:03,060
Let's do running on empty. I
love running. I think of the

1252
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,100
forest, Gump, everything every
time.

1253
01:17:06,480 --> 01:17:10,320
Running On Empty, this is a song
I just got the front cell on i

1254
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:10,740
95

1255
01:17:13,140 --> 01:17:16,560
you just come on and be like,
it's another little 40 minute

1256
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:19,380
long set of i 95 rock coming up
here. We're gonna get the

1257
01:17:19,380 --> 01:17:22,020
weather coming up next, and I'm
gonna hit the post on this song

1258
01:17:22,020 --> 01:17:24,980
eventually, when he starts
coming in with the vocals you're

1259
01:17:24,980 --> 01:17:28,280
listening to, 95.1 the home
rocket roll.

1260
01:17:29,420 --> 01:17:32,600
Oh man, I missed it,
miscalculated. That's an eight

1261
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:34,760
bar intro. So good.

1262
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:42,100
Love it. It makes me think of
Forrest Gump every time when

1263
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:48,040
he's running across the country,
Yes, yep, and then he did this.

1264
01:17:51,700 --> 01:17:55,540
Oh, good one, yeah. Doug Dan,
Doug, more on steel.

1265
01:17:58,780 --> 01:18:00,120
When's he come in. Here we go.
You? Bye

1266
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:08,220
syndrome,

1267
01:18:09,540 --> 01:18:11,340
syndromes, pre Simmons.

1268
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:21,560
I have a Dan dugmore story. So
for those out there that don't

1269
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:23,840
know, right, we usually keep
this show at about one hour.

1270
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:27,140
We're having so much fun with
this encyclopedia of musical

1271
01:18:27,140 --> 01:18:31,160
history. Lonnie Wilson, Dan
dugmore is saying, well, because

1272
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:33,740
he was a side man with Jackson
Brown,

1273
01:18:34,820 --> 01:18:39,500
James Taylor and Linda Ron said,
yes, all three, yeah, some of

1274
01:18:39,500 --> 01:18:42,940
the best music ever made
incredible, yeah. And one time

1275
01:18:42,940 --> 01:18:46,900
he said he was in the studio and
they were having cocktails

1276
01:18:46,900 --> 01:18:50,200
during the session during the
day. No, like, like, it happened

1277
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:53,020
all the time in the 70s. It was
just a thing. And it just like,

1278
01:18:53,380 --> 01:18:57,160
his wife called, and the wife's
like, Are you drinking? And he

1279
01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:01,260
said, Of course, I'm drinking.
I'm working. It wasn't

1280
01:19:03,660 --> 01:19:06,720
frowned upon. It was just part
of the music making process. You

1281
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:09,900
know, Doug Moore's treasure man.
You know, great when we listen

1282
01:19:09,900 --> 01:19:14,580
to this, to the old faces music,
when I listen to early Rod

1283
01:19:14,580 --> 01:19:18,720
Stewart, and I think about these
guys that went to the pub,

1284
01:19:18,780 --> 01:19:22,100
right? And they it's like they
went to the pub and then they

1285
01:19:22,100 --> 01:19:25,460
went and made the record, and
there's flams everywhere, but

1286
01:19:25,460 --> 01:19:29,960
they kept it. It was so, yo,
yeah, cool. Every picture tells

1287
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:34,520
a story. Here we go. So when
this happened, when the band

1288
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:36,140
comes in, it is a flam

1289
01:19:37,820 --> 01:19:40,040
of all flams, and they just keep
it. It

1290
01:19:41,060 --> 01:19:42,100
doesn't happen anymore.

1291
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:47,020
I'm sure they just came back
from the

1292
01:19:54,460 --> 01:19:54,820
pub, right?

1293
01:19:57,580 --> 01:19:59,920
That would never happen. But
dude, for.

1294
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:00,840
Voice

1295
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:06,360
comes in, it's over. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, there's a level of

1296
01:20:06,480 --> 01:20:09,780
forgiveness for that. Golly, I
love me some rods too. Well.

1297
01:20:09,780 --> 01:20:12,420
This could go on and on forever.
Jim, let's play our new game.

1298
01:20:12,420 --> 01:20:14,940
What did we learn today? What
did we learn? What did you

1299
01:20:14,940 --> 01:20:17,520
learn? Rich? I learned that I
have a deeper love and

1300
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:19,920
appreciation for my friend
Lonnie Wilson, and much like

1301
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:20,300
having

1302
01:20:21,860 --> 01:20:25,280
a cold martini with Eddie bears.
I've got to do something fun

1303
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:28,520
with you. Yes, I don't know
what's gonna be, but maybe we'll

1304
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:31,580
it. Yeah, it's gonna be, say,
win man, I'm there. I'm coming

1305
01:20:31,580 --> 01:20:34,160
on the boat. Yeah, let's get
Eddie. Just get him to come. Get

1306
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:37,040
the whole yeah, let's get them
all. Get all these drummers. You

1307
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:39,800
know them all. We'll do a
podcast on a boat. What did you

1308
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:41,860
learn? Drummer? Round Table on a
boat.

1309
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:46,780
I learned that, and I appreciate
this about Lonnie. He's not

1310
01:20:46,780 --> 01:20:51,760
above driving an Uber to make
things happen. I drive I drive

1311
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:55,900
over tomorrow. I might have to,
I think, talk to you.

1312
01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,560
I don't know. The thing is, I
have a lot of really good ideas.

1313
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:03,300
Trouble is most of them suck. So
what we got to do is actually do

1314
01:21:03,300 --> 01:21:06,600
that idea of the hidden cameras,
and as you does, you know, put

1315
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:08,460
on song after song after song,
and that's me.

1316
01:21:09,780 --> 01:21:13,140
What do you mean? That's me and
drunk. Oh, yeah, you you

1317
01:21:13,140 --> 01:21:16,980
deepened. I also learned that,
you know, you deepen that notion

1318
01:21:16,980 --> 01:21:20,160
that the show must go on. And I
think there's a lot of people

1319
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:22,460
out there that have pride in
their job well done, and they

1320
01:21:22,460 --> 01:21:25,040
want to keep their job, and they
want to stay relevant, they want

1321
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,920
to keep getting asked back. So
when you have the flu or you're

1322
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:30,800
jet lagged or you're dehydrated,
or you have diarrhea or

1323
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:35,840
explosive diarrhea, the show
must go on. The latter one might

1324
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:40,120
be that's hard, a good excuse to
go home. Yeah, I've done I've

1325
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,760
done it. Man, you put a bucket
next to the drums and you just

1326
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:45,460
got, oh yes, you're right,
though, show up, man, pop a

1327
01:21:45,460 --> 01:21:50,260
modem like chicklets. Yes,
that's what I learned. I just,

1328
01:21:50,620 --> 01:21:54,220
for some reason, I still think I
see Don Corleone coming through

1329
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,520
the door and going, dear man.

1330
01:21:58,900 --> 01:22:04,980
Little bit, yeah, yeah. Dan, no
one. Dan, it was more. Paul

1331
01:22:04,980 --> 01:22:08,040
early was producing, yeah, it
was kind of like, Hey, dude,

1332
01:22:08,100 --> 01:22:09,300
come on, man, we need you.

1333
01:22:10,500 --> 01:22:13,560
Ed. C was engineering, yeah, we
lie. We still laugh about that.

1334
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:17,040
I'll get a call from Ed every
now and then, dude, I heard wild

1335
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:21,020
angels every time I know, man, I
was sick over at starstruck Ed's

1336
01:22:21,020 --> 01:22:24,560
over there a lot, right? Yes,
man, yeah, boy, what a great

1337
01:22:24,620 --> 01:22:27,140
engineer, producer. Are we gonna
let Lonnie play the game? What

1338
01:22:27,140 --> 01:22:31,460
did you learn? What did I learn?
Yeah, man, I learned that I'm

1339
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:34,280
gonna start coming over here and
hanging with you guys, because

1340
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:38,180
this sure, like a cool place.
It's like a drummer. Can I say

1341
01:22:38,180 --> 01:22:41,320
this? Sure, yeah, drummers live
in this house. Yeah, nothing,

1342
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:44,680
but drummers, yeah, no. You guys
are kind. Thank you for having

1343
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:49,540
me. I appreciate it fun and help
me remember names. Where can

1344
01:22:49,540 --> 01:22:54,460
people find it calm or anything?
Or Lonnie Wilson, musician,

1345
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:57,760
calm, beautiful. Yeah, think
that's what it is. Yeah,

1346
01:22:58,900 --> 01:23:00,520
it's easy to find. Are you

1347
01:23:01,660 --> 01:23:04,500
on the Instagram and Facebook?
Instagram? Think it's Lonnie

1348
01:23:04,500 --> 01:23:08,760
Wilson, 01, okay, on Instagram,
right? Um, I'm gonna look you up

1349
01:23:09,300 --> 01:23:12,480
and follow you. Follow me.
Follow me back. Yes, sir. Jim

1350
01:23:12,480 --> 01:23:14,640
McCarthy, voiceovers, Lonnie
Wilson,

1351
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:18,720
calm. Believe it's what it is.

1352
01:23:19,860 --> 01:23:22,580
I've had an idea for a video.
There it is. Lonnie Wilson,

1353
01:23:22,580 --> 01:23:25,580
musician.com, fantastic. What's
your idea, Jim, I go around

1354
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:27,500
narrating people's lives.

1355
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,340
Oh, that could be something,
but, yeah, we should do that

1356
01:23:31,340 --> 01:23:33,500
with you one day. Okay, let's do
it. All of a sudden, you know,

1357
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:39,020
rich enters the coffee shop and
walks up to the barista and

1358
01:23:39,020 --> 01:23:39,980
places his order, and

1359
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:44,980
then you place your order, and I
go. Now, rich walked over and

1360
01:23:44,980 --> 01:23:48,760
patiently waited for his order.
Huh? I don't know, buddy, a lot

1361
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:52,420
of good ideas. Most of them
suck. Nine out of 10. Yeah,

1362
01:23:54,940 --> 01:23:58,180
blueberry, I see the picture
there. And the other game that I

1363
01:23:58,180 --> 01:24:00,060
always I've been playing for
some reason, late. Oh,

1364
01:24:00,060 --> 01:24:03,600
doppelganger game. Yeah, the
doppelganger game. I have a an

1365
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:08,220
odd propensity to pick out
people that look like other

1366
01:24:08,220 --> 01:24:12,420
people, so and sometimes it may
not be flattering. So there was

1367
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:16,680
one time it's gonna be flat.
This guy helped me out years

1368
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:19,440
ago. Come on, man, Throw me a
bone. Over here, there's a guy I

1369
01:24:19,440 --> 01:24:23,420
worked with you almost look you
guys look like you could be

1370
01:24:23,420 --> 01:24:25,880
brothers. And I can't remember
his name, but he's amused. He

1371
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:29,300
used to be a musician here in
town, but moved to Austin, but

1372
01:24:29,300 --> 01:24:34,100
he looked like Russell Crowe,
and that's great. Yeah, he'll

1373
01:24:34,100 --> 01:24:37,460
take her, right? Yeah, I need to
get a kilt. Gladiator. Yeah,

1374
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:41,200
Gladiator. I love that. I'm into
it shadows and dust span. Yet

1375
01:24:41,380 --> 01:24:44,080
this was so fun, guys, we'll
have to keep this drum party

1376
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:47,500
going. Thank you, man. Learn so
much today, guys. Lonnie Wilson,

1377
01:24:47,500 --> 01:24:50,740
who was a real treat today, we
appreciate you stopping by. Keep

1378
01:24:50,740 --> 01:24:53,500
coming back for the good stuff.
Be sure to subscribe, share,

1379
01:24:53,500 --> 01:24:57,340
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1380
01:24:57,400 --> 01:24:59,920
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1381
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:04,320
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1382
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