WEBVTT 00:00:01.482 --> 00:00:05.362 Hello and welcome back to NPC, that's Next Portable Console. 00:00:05.662 --> 00:00:08.482 I'm here with Federico Viticci. Federico, how are doing? 00:00:08.742 --> 00:00:11.182 Hello, I'm good. I'm good. How are you, John? 00:00:11.362 --> 00:00:13.082 I'm doing very well, thank you. 00:00:13.522 --> 00:00:15.642 The sun has just come out on a rainy day, 00:00:15.662 --> 00:00:18.002 so I'm feeling like I'm going to get outside a little bit later. 00:00:18.002 --> 00:00:22.762 But for now, we've got some handhelds to talk about and some news 00:00:22.762 --> 00:00:27.762 items. It not be about Zelda Ocarina of Time Remake, 00:00:27.902 --> 00:00:32.562 which I have started. We can talk about that in NPC XL. 00:00:32.882 --> 00:00:34.142 You still haven't. 00:00:34.362 --> 00:00:36.622 I haven't. It came out at midnight, of course, 00:00:36.622 --> 00:00:39.842 and then I got up and I had some things that I had to do first thing this morning. 00:00:39.842 --> 00:00:43.492 So I haven't had a chance yet, but I'm hoping to a little bit later today. 00:00:43.622 --> 00:00:47.202 Okay, okay. We have some news items. 00:00:47.202 --> 00:00:51.022 We have a bunch of little things here and there to cover. 00:00:51.742 --> 00:00:55.962 What is it about the Switch 2 sales that you added at the very top of our document? 00:00:56.422 --> 00:01:01.282 Yes, I just was scrolling through while we were waiting to connect here and get our 00:01:01.282 --> 00:01:02.642 episode started. 00:01:02.642 --> 00:01:05.182 And I noticed that, and Engadget was reporting, 00:01:05.702 --> 00:01:11.502 that sales of the Switch 2 dropped 40% after the increase in 00:01:11.502 --> 00:01:17.382 prices, which is a pretty significant drop and says to me that they had probably 00:01:17.382 --> 00:01:20.502 picked a really good price the first time around, right? 00:01:20.682 --> 00:01:24.722 They picked a price that obviously was pretty sensitive, 00:01:24.742 --> 00:01:29.242 that going much higher than that almost dropped the sales half, which is a shame. 00:01:29.242 --> 00:01:34.382 I mean, I hope that we get into a position where those prices could come down again, 00:01:34.422 --> 00:01:40.062 but they haven't as of today. So I don't know. It's just one of those things. 00:01:40.062 --> 00:01:45.482 I mean, we're all kind of subject to higher prices of all kinds of consumer 00:01:45.482 --> 00:01:46.642 electronics right now. 00:01:46.642 --> 00:01:49.942 And it's cutting into Nintendo sales, 00:01:49.982 --> 00:01:53.602 which is not great for them, I suppose. 00:01:53.962 --> 00:01:59.042 Yeah, I mean, it's happening everywhere, so it's not really a huge surprise. 00:02:00.102 --> 00:02:01.182 Yeah, I mean... 00:02:01.182 --> 00:02:02.702 Yeah, it wasn't a surprise to me, 00:02:02.702 --> 00:02:05.802 but I guess the magnitude of it was a little bit of a surprise. 00:02:05.802 --> 00:02:11.562 I didn't expect that the prices would be that sensitive to 00:02:11.562 --> 00:02:17.202 the increase, but, you know, it's video games. It's unlike maybe your laptop. 00:02:17.202 --> 00:02:22.162 It's more of a want than a need, as we talked about a couple of weeks ago. 00:02:22.742 --> 00:02:28.362 Yeah. Can we talk about this project that I've seen 00:02:28.362 --> 00:02:33.162 on social media and YouTube a bunch? So, okay. 00:02:33.542 --> 00:02:36.162 So it's about Steam on macOS. 00:02:36.782 --> 00:02:41.102 Before we get to that, so this show has obviously evolved over time. 00:02:41.382 --> 00:02:46.562 Yes. And as you can tell, this topic of... 00:02:46.562 --> 00:02:49.582 It started with the Pokémon recomps and decomps, right? 00:02:49.922 --> 00:02:53.922 Yep. We've been observing this scene, 00:02:54.182 --> 00:02:59.742 these changes in this area of video game emulation and 00:02:59.742 --> 00:03:01.682 not even emulation anymore, 00:03:01.682 --> 00:03:06.082 but like even the idea of like putting games that were not supposed to be on a 00:03:06.082 --> 00:03:10.822 certain platform to play them on that platform, like Super Smash Bros. 00:03:11.042 --> 00:03:12.382 Melee on Apple TV. 00:03:12.662 --> 00:03:15.802 Or putting Mario in a Final Fantasy game, 00:03:15.902 --> 00:03:18.409 for instance. Pac-Man in Elden Ring, like those kinds of things. 00:03:18.408 --> 00:03:19.242 Yeah. 00:03:19.242 --> 00:03:25.142 This entire scene, while obviously there are differences between these projects, 00:03:25.482 --> 00:03:29.342 the common denominator is that, like it or not, 00:03:29.582 --> 00:03:35.222 there's a community of developers, tinkerers, enthusiasts, 00:03:35.722 --> 00:03:39.962 with a subscription to Claude or ChatGPT, 00:03:40.222 --> 00:03:42.202 tokens and money to burn, 00:03:42.202 --> 00:03:47.222 and a question that basically revolves around, 00:03:47.462 --> 00:03:50.982 what if I put this on that? Right. 00:03:50.982 --> 00:03:56.042 This is happening every week, every other day, everywhere. 00:03:56.282 --> 00:04:00.722 Yeah. I just saw a Mario game on the Apple TV. I forget which Mario game. 00:04:00.842 --> 00:04:04.529 Yeah. Look, I'm not surprised. Wind Waker on your phone. 00:04:04.528 --> 00:04:05.362 Yeah. 00:04:05.362 --> 00:04:10.582 Yeah. Dreamcast on a GameCube. I've seen all kinds of things. 00:04:10.842 --> 00:04:11.676 Yeah. 00:04:12.202 --> 00:04:14.162 Latest is interesting. So this project, 00:04:14.282 --> 00:04:18.242 which launched as FX Steam Launcher. 00:04:18.642 --> 00:04:21.362 I think the GitHub repo, it's obviously open source. 00:04:22.042 --> 00:04:25.522 And Claude is listed in the contributors, obviously. 00:04:25.762 --> 00:04:29.602 It's been replaced to Steam Mac. It's not clear. 00:04:29.762 --> 00:04:32.462 Like, is it called FX Steam Launcher or Steam Mac? 00:04:32.602 --> 00:04:34.662 The GitHub repo is called Steam Mac. 00:04:35.782 --> 00:04:39.162 Anyway, the idea is that this is official SteamOS. 00:04:39.162 --> 00:04:42.222 I believe it's the Steam Frame image. 00:04:42.382 --> 00:04:47.182 So the Steam Frame operating system running in a VM 00:04:47.182 --> 00:04:53.082 on Apple silicon with GPU acceleration and 00:04:53.082 --> 00:04:55.342 crazy performance. And by crazy performance, 00:04:55.402 --> 00:04:57.562 I mean 200 frames in Left 4 00:04:57.562 --> 00:05:01.422 Dead 2 on an M4 Max MacBook. 00:05:01.422 --> 00:05:04.282 Wow. Wow. That's amazing. So what's 00:05:04.282 --> 00:05:08.202 interesting here is this is not just any VM. 00:05:08.202 --> 00:05:12.382 They're using the Apple native hypervisor framework, 00:05:12.702 --> 00:05:18.422 which is the Apple made API and framework for creating 00:05:18.422 --> 00:05:23.242 virtual machines on macOS and emulating other operating systems. 00:05:23.402 --> 00:05:26.069 Right. It's used for emulating Windows on the Mac, right? 00:05:26.068 --> 00:05:26.902 Right. 00:05:26.902 --> 00:05:30.882 What's interesting to me, too, is you might think to yourself initially, well, 00:05:30.982 --> 00:05:34.182 wait, I thought that there was already like a Steam app on the Mac. 00:05:34.182 --> 00:05:38.202 Well, this is obvious. This is obviously to play the Windows games that aren't 00:05:38.202 --> 00:05:41.662 available on the Mac version of Steam on macOS. 00:05:42.162 --> 00:05:47.662 Right, right. Because now get this. So if this is the Steam Frame build. 00:05:48.162 --> 00:05:52.522 Yeah. Right. So it's for Android, right? 00:05:52.522 --> 00:05:56.662 And it's compiled initially for ARM64 architecture. 00:05:57.182 --> 00:06:01.069 So think about for a second the nesting doll situation that we have going on here. 00:06:01.068 --> 00:06:01.902 Yeah. 00:06:01.902 --> 00:06:07.702 We have, and I just needed to memorize this paragraph by video cards. 00:06:08.982 --> 00:06:11.782 So if you want to play Windows games on a Mac, 00:06:11.922 --> 00:06:14.742 this is a very roundabout way to do it, but it actually works. 00:06:14.742 --> 00:06:17.742 Because what you're doing is you have Proton 00:06:17.742 --> 00:06:23.002 for the ARM64 compatibility. 00:06:23.562 --> 00:06:24.396 Right. 00:06:24.702 --> 00:06:29.529 Then you have FEX, which is a Valve-made open source project. 00:06:29.528 --> 00:06:30.362 For Android. 00:06:30.362 --> 00:06:36.022 translate those x86, so Intel, instructions to ARM64. 00:06:36.022 --> 00:06:41.182 You have DirectX 9, 10, 11, 00:06:41.462 --> 00:06:44.982 and 11 going through DXVK. 00:06:45.482 --> 00:06:51.242 DirectX 12 games going through VKD3D 00:06:51.242 --> 00:06:57.062 Proton. You have the graphics instructions, right? 00:06:57.122 --> 00:07:01.312 Because you've got to go through the Android ARM64 graphics pipeline. 00:07:01.312 --> 00:07:05.602 So you have MoltenVK that is... 00:07:06.332 --> 00:07:09.672 This is so ridiculous. You have Molten... Stay with me. 00:07:09.812 --> 00:07:15.692 So the Mesa graphics instructions need to go through 00:07:15.692 --> 00:07:20.132 MoltenVK that is then bridged to Metal 00:07:20.132 --> 00:07:22.512 on macOS. 00:07:22.752 --> 00:07:26.779 Right. So you're going from Windows to Android to Mac. 00:07:26.778 --> 00:07:27.612 Yes. 00:07:27.612 --> 00:07:32.072 Through those different layers of compatibility and... 00:07:32.072 --> 00:07:37.612 Yes. Yes. And incredibly, this all works. It's 00:07:37.612 --> 00:07:38.812 amazing to me it works. 00:07:38.832 --> 00:07:40.912 I guess it's a testament to Apple silicon and 00:07:40.912 --> 00:07:43.092 the power of it because this is just brute 00:07:43.092 --> 00:07:44.152 force. Exactly. 00:07:44.292 --> 00:07:48.512 You can just brute force your way into multiple layers of emulation. 00:07:48.512 --> 00:07:50.892 I'm amazed that that can do 200 frames. 00:07:51.132 --> 00:07:56.772 I'm going to give you some numbers. Skyrim 1080p high 60 frames. 00:07:57.252 --> 00:08:01.012 The Witcher 3 1080p high 70 plus FPS. 00:08:01.892 --> 00:08:06.372 Left 4 Dead 2 1080p high 200 plus frames. 00:08:07.552 --> 00:08:11.112 Red Dead Redemption 1080p medium 70 FPS. 00:08:11.592 --> 00:08:13.632 Okay. That's pretty good. Do they have any like 00:08:13.632 --> 00:08:17.112 really recent games like maybe Cyberpunk or... 00:08:17.592 --> 00:08:20.712 I don't see this. ETA Prime obviously tested this on YouTube. 00:08:20.712 --> 00:08:22.912 Go check out the ETA Prime video 00:08:22.912 --> 00:08:24.512 on YouTube. Is this... 00:08:24.512 --> 00:08:26.732 I assume that this is still early days for 00:08:26.732 --> 00:08:28.952 this and it's probably not super easy to set 00:08:28.952 --> 00:08:34.892 this up. Yeah. It looks kind of... Let me see the instructions. Looks kind of... 00:08:34.892 --> 00:08:37.952 I don't want to say janky. They actually have a pretty nice website. 00:08:37.952 --> 00:08:40.002 You got to know what you're doing. Right? 00:08:41.172 --> 00:08:43.912 They have a growing list of compatible games. 00:08:44.232 --> 00:08:45.652 Okay. It's very early. 00:08:45.652 --> 00:08:51.392 This is reminiscent of another project that I've seen mentioned lately which is 00:08:51.392 --> 00:08:52.352 Droid Deck. 00:08:52.772 --> 00:08:58.232 Droid Deck is this new project for Xbox and 00:08:58.232 --> 00:09:02.772 PC Game Pass games on Android. Similar idea. 00:09:03.312 --> 00:09:06.552 Yeah. Yeah. Xbox. I was just reading about this the other day that there was this 00:09:06.552 --> 00:09:11.152 expectation that it was going to take a lot longer for Xbox and PS3 emulation to 00:09:11.152 --> 00:09:15.532 really get there but that it's accelerated quite a bit and it's again the same kind 00:09:15.532 --> 00:09:17.872 of AI story I assume that people 00:09:17.872 --> 00:09:23.852 are throwing. I saw this post a few days ago and it's kind of scary as 00:09:23.852 --> 00:09:29.452 a thought and the post was watch as what's happening to software 00:09:29.452 --> 00:09:34.192 where anybody can just reverse engineer anything and emulate anything. 00:09:34.912 --> 00:09:39.352 Watch as the software industry increasingly locks everything down, 00:09:39.772 --> 00:09:43.392 moves everything to the cloud and nothing runs locally anymore. 00:09:43.632 --> 00:09:45.992 Yep. Which is a scary prospect. 00:09:45.992 --> 00:09:46.872 Yeah. No. 00:09:47.032 --> 00:09:51.452 I think that that is I mean that would be how I would react to it if I was a 00:09:51.452 --> 00:09:55.752 software manufacturer at this point because how else can you can control it? 00:09:55.832 --> 00:09:59.412 I mean one of the other stories we have this week that's worth noting is that 00:09:59.412 --> 00:10:05.392 Anthropic has added instructions to Claude to try to prevent people from 00:10:05.392 --> 00:10:07.052 remaking games. 00:10:07.652 --> 00:10:12.772 Now you know it remains to be seen how effective that is and there are only one 00:10:12.772 --> 00:10:18.752 frontier lab that's going And the other thing is is like 00:10:18.752 --> 00:10:24.692 is that going to prevent somebody who is trying to make a game inspired by 00:10:24.692 --> 00:10:29.192 another game? You know something that wouldn't constitute copyright infringement 00:10:29.192 --> 00:10:33.432 that would be just like a souls like or whatever another you know game that has a 00:10:33.432 --> 00:10:34.692 particular genre. 00:10:34.692 --> 00:10:39.052 Will it prevent those games being from being made or is it really only going to 00:10:39.052 --> 00:10:44.992 keep you from putting Mario in Final Fantasy or moving Smash Brothers to the 00:10:44.992 --> 00:10:46.072 Apple TV? know? 00:10:46.252 --> 00:10:51.332 Right. Right. I saw that also before that Anthropic putting some guardrails to 00:10:51.332 --> 00:10:54.572 prevent people from hacking their televisions. 00:10:54.872 --> 00:10:57.692 You know the whole like oh I created a custom OS. 00:10:57.832 --> 00:10:59.552 Oh really? I didn't know that they had done that. 00:10:59.552 --> 00:11:01.932 I think they put in some guardrails for that. 00:11:02.472 --> 00:11:07.592 The story in Ars Technica that I that I've linked in our show notes it'll be in the 00:11:07.592 --> 00:11:11.772 show notes. It's a good one because it also talks about how the whole decomp 00:11:11.772 --> 00:11:16.692 scene has been around forever and that one of the stalwart websites that was 00:11:16.692 --> 00:11:21.332 dedicated to it and by doing and dedicated doing these things by hand is shutting 00:11:21.332 --> 00:11:26.552 down because they feel like there's just no community left to the process that it's 00:11:26.552 --> 00:11:29.032 just people throwing compute at these problems. 00:11:29.552 --> 00:11:34.732 Right. Right. That's also an interesting angle because like you don't need a 00:11:34.732 --> 00:11:39.952 community aspect which is sad but you don't need it because you can just plug in 00:11:39.952 --> 00:11:45.692 your you know you can just open your computer sign up for a $20 Claude plan and 00:11:45.692 --> 00:11:50.692 just say hey I have this Wind Waker ROM can you make it run on my 00:11:50.692 --> 00:11:56.672 I don't know Lenovo tablet or like whatever like you can just you 00:11:56.672 --> 00:12:02.232 can you port it as a native iOS game that uses metal and sure like maybe now Claude 00:12:02.232 --> 00:12:06.952 will have some guardrails but like I'm sure you can find some other model that 00:12:06.952 --> 00:12:10.052 will happily do it for you without those guardrails. 00:12:10.572 --> 00:12:13.832 including the open weights models I think. So 00:12:13.832 --> 00:12:19.352 like look I think it'll probably get messy very soon. 00:12:19.572 --> 00:12:25.112 Right now as they say as handheld people and tinkerers we are eating 00:12:25.112 --> 00:12:31.072 good very good at the moment because like this is this is paradise we have these 00:12:31.072 --> 00:12:36.312 projects every other week and they actually work and they're they are also 00:12:36.312 --> 00:12:41.092 actually maintained because it's so trivial to just say you know look at the 00:12:41.092 --> 00:12:45.912 issues that people are reporting in the projects repo and fix them. 00:12:46.712 --> 00:12:52.512 Like so it even goes beyond the the assumption that like oh people are just 00:12:52.512 --> 00:12:55.272 making these things and they're never going to update them again. 00:12:55.272 --> 00:12:56.392 No that's not the case. 00:12:56.392 --> 00:13:00.172 Well and that's been a false assumption in kind of the iOS world too that we cover at 00:13:00.172 --> 00:13:04.572 MacStories is I think that a lot of people worry about vibe coded apps because 00:13:04.572 --> 00:13:10.192 they'll never be maintained but there is a path a pretty good path actually now to 00:13:10.192 --> 00:13:14.332 maintain apps and I have actually talked to a couple of developers who are seeing 00:13:14.332 --> 00:13:18.972 vibe coders copied their apps which is I feel like we're at the cutting edge seeing 00:13:18.972 --> 00:13:21.992 this in gaming and it's just going to spread to all software. 00:13:22.172 --> 00:13:27.932 This is absolutely a preview of what's going to happen elsewhere soon. 00:13:28.792 --> 00:13:33.172 I also think there's an interesting angle here if you are a handheld manufacturer. 00:13:34.632 --> 00:13:40.272 If you're an AYANEO you must be so happy that this 00:13:40.272 --> 00:13:45.332 sort of like enthusiasts and people who like to live at the bleeding edge are 00:13:45.332 --> 00:13:51.132 pushing their handhelds further and further in terms of emulation because all of 00:13:51.132 --> 00:13:54.212 this stuff now finally justifies the 00:13:54.212 --> 00:13:58.492 high end of those devices. Right. That's true. 00:13:58.492 --> 00:14:04.052 And it finally gives something like you know an AYN Odin 3 Ultra which they don't make 00:14:04.052 --> 00:14:06.312 anymore. They make the portal now. 00:14:06.932 --> 00:14:12.672 But like it justifies having a lot of RAM and a powerful CPU and a powerful 00:14:12.672 --> 00:14:17.752 GPU and tons of storage because you can say well you know what I am just going to 00:14:17.752 --> 00:14:23.432 put PC games and Steam games on my handheld and they're just going to run. 00:14:23.592 --> 00:14:29.292 Do you think this leads to a company like Anbernic not boosting the 00:14:29.292 --> 00:14:34.852 existing ROMs of existing games but starting to pull 00:14:34.852 --> 00:14:40.072 games off of these projects from GitHub and pack those in with their devices? 00:14:40.352 --> 00:14:41.792 Oh that is... 00:14:41.792 --> 00:14:43.112 Do you see where I'm going? 00:14:43.112 --> 00:14:46.992 Oh you're the devil. Yeah. Yeah. 00:14:47.232 --> 00:14:52.192 Instead of ripping off Nintendo isn't it easier to rip off a bunch of people who 00:14:52.192 --> 00:14:56.242 are on GitHub who don't probably have the wherewithal to fight back to begin with? 00:14:56.912 --> 00:14:58.672 I wish you hadn't said this. 00:14:58.832 --> 00:15:00.282 I'm sorry it just came to me. 00:15:01.012 --> 00:15:06.492 Yeah I mean I obviously we do not 00:15:06.492 --> 00:15:11.712 advise for that but that is another scary thought. 00:15:11.712 --> 00:15:15.592 There's just like and that's just the thing that we've unleashed a genie out of 00:15:15.592 --> 00:15:20.232 a bottle and the implications of where this goes can spin off in all sorts of 00:15:20.232 --> 00:15:22.432 directions and that's really what I'm getting at. 00:15:22.432 --> 00:15:26.612 And we haven't even talked about any feel so I think it's funny because it kind of 00:15:26.612 --> 00:15:30.052 feels like we're having our psychosis moment. Right? 00:15:31.072 --> 00:15:34.252 But like this is actually happening in the video game scene. 00:15:34.252 --> 00:15:37.672 Like just take a look at the links that we put in the show notes. 00:15:37.872 --> 00:15:39.972 There's articles every other day. 00:15:40.472 --> 00:15:45.592 We haven't even mentioned on this topic and I feel like I know that it kind of 00:15:45.592 --> 00:15:49.052 sounds like we're losing our minds. I promise you we're not. 00:15:49.632 --> 00:15:52.272 We haven't even mentioned what's happening to jailbreaks. 00:15:52.272 --> 00:15:56.032 Yeah. Like this the same AI. 00:15:56.572 --> 00:16:02.212 So you may be wondering right how are these people finding software exploits for 00:16:02.212 --> 00:16:04.592 the Nintendo Switch 2 or the PlayStation 5? 00:16:04.892 --> 00:16:08.632 Both of them have been kind of jailbroken the PS5 more so than the Switch 2. 00:16:08.632 --> 00:16:10.912 iPhone 18 Pro just got jailbroken I think. 00:16:10.952 --> 00:16:13.392 The iPhone Duo was jailbroken on launch day. 00:16:13.392 --> 00:16:19.052 Like how are these people finding these exploits if the big 00:16:19.052 --> 00:16:21.512 models, ChatGPT and Claude, 00:16:22.052 --> 00:16:25.752 prevent you from doing this kind of like cybersecurity stuff? 00:16:26.012 --> 00:16:26.846 Right. 00:16:27.352 --> 00:16:31.072 Have you ever heard of ablated models? Yes. 00:16:31.072 --> 00:16:34.892 So these are open source models that you can run on your computer. 00:16:34.892 --> 00:16:39.792 If you have a modern MacBook Pro you can run a pretty powerful open source model on 00:16:39.792 --> 00:16:44.992 your laptop. And it means that those open weights models, usually from China, 00:16:45.212 --> 00:16:47.412 they have been taken by somebody. 00:16:47.792 --> 00:16:49.192 All of the weights, 00:16:49.352 --> 00:16:51.952 so all of the parameters inside the model that deal 00:16:51.952 --> 00:16:55.632 with blocking certain requests or cybersecurity. 00:16:55.912 --> 00:16:58.512 safeguards. All the safeguards have been removed. 00:16:58.712 --> 00:17:03.852 And so you can use the pure model without safeguards. Don't ever do it. 00:17:04.472 --> 00:17:07.492 It's scary. I have tried one. 00:17:07.732 --> 00:17:11.692 This is where the hacking comes from. Websites are getting hacked. 00:17:12.052 --> 00:17:16.852 Yep. So if you wonder how do these people figure out these exploits? 00:17:16.852 --> 00:17:19.012 Right. How do they find these things for PHP, 00:17:19.012 --> 00:17:22.432 these weaknesses in PHP or Railway or all these other services? 00:17:22.712 --> 00:17:28.412 And especially like, because like for those proper cybersecurity like jobs, 00:17:28.712 --> 00:17:30.252 there's an argument to be made. 00:17:30.252 --> 00:17:35.272 Like, oh, maybe they're using one of the actual cybersecurity programs by OpenAI, 00:17:35.472 --> 00:17:36.822 like Daybreak, for example. 00:17:36.932 --> 00:17:38.112 Right. Or using Mythos. 00:17:38.972 --> 00:17:43.232 Or using Mythos by Anthropic. sign up. You say, I'm a security researcher. 00:17:43.232 --> 00:17:44.712 I want to do security research. 00:17:44.712 --> 00:17:46.712 And they give you access to the model without safeguards. 00:17:46.712 --> 00:17:49.262 prove who you are. You have credentials. Financials. 00:17:49.632 --> 00:17:52.912 These people who are hacking the Nintendo Switch 00:17:52.912 --> 00:17:56.559 2 are not part of a cybersecurity program. 00:17:56.558 --> 00:17:57.392 No. 00:17:57.392 --> 00:18:02.652 So I 90% guarantee you that they're using some of these 00:18:02.652 --> 00:18:05.432 large language models on their laptops, 00:18:05.572 --> 00:18:07.752 on their computers with the safeguards removed. 00:18:07.752 --> 00:18:11.272 They plug in their Nintendo Switch 2 and they're like, go have fun. 00:18:11.392 --> 00:18:13.892 Find me an exploit. And 00:18:13.892 --> 00:18:17.532 look, that's how the PHP exploits were found. 00:18:17.732 --> 00:18:21.792 Someone actually literally said, find a bad vulnerability in PHP. 00:18:21.792 --> 00:18:25.212 That was the prompt. That's all that someone has to really do. 00:18:25.612 --> 00:18:27.392 And from personal experience, 00:18:27.412 --> 00:18:31.952 I can tell you that running these Chinese models without safeguards, it is scary. 00:18:31.952 --> 00:18:37.692 Imagine having a little super intelligence on your computer that has absolutely 00:18:37.692 --> 00:18:40.942 no concern of what you're going to ask. And I'll leave it at that. 00:18:41.312 --> 00:18:46.012 I deleted it within like 10 minutes. It's a scary thing to run. 00:18:46.512 --> 00:18:48.552 because it could just wipe out your whole computer. 00:18:48.552 --> 00:18:52.012 It doesn't care. It has absolutely no safeguards in place. 00:18:52.452 --> 00:18:57.712 Anyway, so this will continue to happen in good ways and bad ways. 00:18:57.712 --> 00:19:01.952 The good ways are fun because like we get to run, you know, 00:19:02.112 --> 00:19:04.272 Steam on our Macs and Xbox on Android. 00:19:05.592 --> 00:19:10.012 It's now, it's quickly reaching the point where 00:19:10.012 --> 00:19:14.392 it, what is the term, John, 00:19:14.552 --> 00:19:17.352 when you get like overexposed to something? 00:19:17.532 --> 00:19:19.652 Like you get desensitized, right? 00:19:19.652 --> 00:19:22.652 Because like you see these projects now and you see, oh yeah, 00:19:22.912 --> 00:19:27.932 they put the Dreamcast on, I don't know, 00:19:28.312 --> 00:19:32.152 an arcade cabinet from the 2000s. Sure. 00:19:32.492 --> 00:19:33.326 Yeah. Okay. 00:19:33.892 --> 00:19:36.132 Yeah. No, I mean, there's a continuum here. 00:19:36.392 --> 00:19:37.692 I mean, I think there are, 00:19:37.812 --> 00:19:41.512 there's like historical preservation maybe on one end of the spectrum. 00:19:41.512 --> 00:19:44.872 And there's just pure slop where people are, you know, 00:19:44.952 --> 00:19:46.932 on the other end of the spectrum or just 00:19:46.932 --> 00:19:49.912 straight up piracy, you know, even beyond that. 00:19:50.072 --> 00:19:51.522 Yeah. I think more than ever, 00:19:52.052 --> 00:19:57.712 at least my hope is that we will be able to tell the projects that are actually 00:19:57.712 --> 00:20:03.472 developed with AI, sure, but with care and with taste and with a sense of direction. 00:20:04.052 --> 00:20:06.372 Rather than, you know, a person who's like, ah, 00:20:06.452 --> 00:20:10.452 I put 20 games on GitHub and you can run them on your phone. 00:20:10.598 --> 00:20:11.432 That's it. 00:20:11.432 --> 00:20:14.432 So like there are pros and cons, of course. 00:20:15.272 --> 00:20:19.992 I'm actually interested in, in trying out the Droid deck. 00:20:21.712 --> 00:20:23.262 Yeah, that's interesting to me. 00:20:23.372 --> 00:20:26.122 I mean, I've got a laptop that could run that, I'm sure. 00:20:26.332 --> 00:20:31.692 Yeah. Anyway, before we jump to NPC XL, where, by the way, 00:20:31.792 --> 00:20:35.652 I totally forgot. I have an update on my gaming PC to share. 00:20:35.812 --> 00:20:37.632 Oh, have a story to tell. 00:20:37.892 --> 00:20:41.192 Oh, tell me, tell me. I, I, you and I haven't talked about this. 00:20:41.292 --> 00:20:43.672 I, I saw something somewhere that you're working on. 00:20:43.672 --> 00:20:45.592 fixed my gaming PC. Okay. 00:20:45.592 --> 00:20:48.912 With the help of Silvia and another friend of mine. 00:20:49.132 --> 00:20:52.032 Oh, yeah. What, how did, how did Silvia come into it? 00:20:52.052 --> 00:20:53.952 you the story on NPC XL. 00:20:54.212 --> 00:20:55.372 All right, all right. All 00:20:55.372 --> 00:20:56.206 all right. 00:20:56.472 --> 00:20:59.272 I, yeah, I meant, I heard you mentioned that you were working on it, 00:20:59.272 --> 00:21:00.332 but I didn't know what happened. 00:21:00.332 --> 00:21:02.532 happy. I'm streaming games from downstairs. 00:21:02.892 --> 00:21:06.732 Right. Right. No, that's the part that I knew about, that you were doing it. 00:21:06.812 --> 00:21:09.712 So I knew you had fixed it, but I didn't know how you fixed it. 00:21:09.712 --> 00:21:13.212 Before we go to XL, though, we should mention that the Odin 3, 00:21:13.372 --> 00:21:15.672 this is yet another little tidbit of information. 00:21:15.672 --> 00:21:19.312 The Odin 3 is charging at 45 watts, not 60. 00:21:19.532 --> 00:21:24.752 That was something that was like wrong in some part spec or something and found its 00:21:24.752 --> 00:21:29.192 way out of 45 watts is a, is pretty good charging speed. 00:21:29.812 --> 00:21:34.252 You know, so I don't think this is a huge deal of difference between 45 and 60 on 00:21:34.252 --> 00:21:36.602 an, I think it's a 9,000 milliamp hour battery. 00:21:36.792 --> 00:21:38.992 It'll still be quick, but that, you know, 00:21:39.132 --> 00:21:43.872 it's worth noting that that has actually been changed and that's the case. 00:21:44.112 --> 00:21:45.032 What else, Federico? 00:21:45.032 --> 00:21:50.912 The Red Magic 12 Pro exists now and it's 00:21:50.912 --> 00:21:52.412 got more RGB lights. 00:21:53.492 --> 00:21:54.872 It's got 12 probably, 00:21:55.012 --> 00:21:57.492 I just wanted to tell you this. It's more expensive than before. 00:21:57.492 --> 00:22:00.792 So they got a $200 increase from the 11 Pro. 00:22:01.012 --> 00:22:04.172 So it now starts at $949. 00:22:05.112 --> 00:22:07.072 Still looks very, very nice. 00:22:07.212 --> 00:22:10.952 But I mean, at this point you are approaching iPhone territory and or any 00:22:10.952 --> 00:22:13.452 other Android flagship territory. Right. 00:22:13.452 --> 00:22:18.252 12 or 16 gigs of RAM. The 24 gigs variant is gone. 00:22:18.472 --> 00:22:20.532 This is the one that I had on my 11 Pro. 00:22:20.792 --> 00:22:24.112 You can choose between 256, 512 or 1 terabyte of storage. 00:22:24.772 --> 00:22:30.512 Big chunky battery, 8,400 milliamp hour with 80 watt fast charging. 00:22:32.392 --> 00:22:35.752 So looks like a pretty good, oh, and obviously it comes with a, 00:22:35.752 --> 00:22:40.872 with a brand new Snapdragon 8 Elite Extreme Gen 6. 00:22:41.212 --> 00:22:42.292 Yes. It's the new 00:22:42.292 --> 00:22:43.126 one. 00:22:43.372 --> 00:22:46.372 It's the, it's like the most bleeding edge, 00:22:46.532 --> 00:22:52.432 bleeding edge Android gaming phone you can get now with more RGB lights with less 00:22:52.432 --> 00:22:57.012 RAM because nobody can get their hands on a 24 gig stick and well, not a stick, 00:22:57.132 --> 00:23:01.332 but like a component anymore. Right. And it's more expensive than before still. So. 00:23:01.912 --> 00:23:05.752 And there's probably not the drivers that you need for it to do much. 00:23:06.172 --> 00:23:11.232 My advice, if you can find a good price on a 10 Pro or an 11 Pro, get those. 00:23:11.472 --> 00:23:12.872 Yeah, I agree. I agree. Yeah. 00:23:12.872 --> 00:23:16.819 Hey, we should mention AYANEO too. We can't let an episode go by without them. 00:23:16.818 --> 00:23:17.652 Obviously. 00:23:17.652 --> 00:23:22.652 AYANEO has this new, I guess it's called AYASpace? AYASpace. 00:23:22.932 --> 00:23:24.032 AYASpace 2. 00:23:24.032 --> 00:23:27.732 And I think this is actually a really neat angle and something that we've talked 00:23:27.732 --> 00:23:30.932 about, think, especially last year about where these companies are going to go in 00:23:30.932 --> 00:23:34.772 terms of their software and how they package things for consumers, which is, 00:23:34.912 --> 00:23:36.912 this is a front end, 00:23:37.112 --> 00:23:41.552 it's their operating system essentially for their Android devices that allows them 00:23:41.552 --> 00:23:44.512 to autumn, you know, you, you, 00:23:44.572 --> 00:23:48.292 you put a game on there and it automatically will detect the game. 00:23:48.492 --> 00:23:51.092 You don't have to do like the scraping of the artwork. 00:23:51.092 --> 00:23:53.872 Um, it does all that kind of stuff for you. 00:23:54.012 --> 00:23:58.472 just takes a lot of that friction out of the process of adding your games to these 00:23:58.472 --> 00:24:02.172 devices. And I thought that's kind of a, kind of a neat way to approach it. 00:24:02.212 --> 00:24:06.452 They, they kind of theme it as a, as a, an arcade museum. 00:24:06.472 --> 00:24:09.532 It's, you know, you know, whether you like the design or not, 00:24:09.532 --> 00:24:15.392 I think the idea of trying to reduce the friction and not require people to like 00:24:15.392 --> 00:24:18.572