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I don’t have time to exercise.” Sound familiar? In this episode, Katy Bowman talks with clinical psychologist and author Dr. Diana Hill about one of the most common barriers to movement—and why it’s really an issue of energy management and prioritization, not time. Drawing from her books Wise Effort and I Know I Should Exercise, But... Dr. Hill shares how recognizing “choice points” throughout your day can help you move past procrastination and toward the exercise you truly want to do.
Through practical psychology and real-life examples, Katy and Diana explore how to recognize your stalling loops, reduce transition friction, and align your daily movement habits with your values and genius energy. You’ll learn compassionate, doable strategies for getting unstuck—whether it’s setting your sport shoes out the night before, reframing movement as energy renewal, or aligning movement with your relationships. This episode offers fresh insight and motivation for anyone who wants to move more and make exercise feel possible again.
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EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:
07:40 – Wise Effort: Using your energy in alignment with your values
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS:
07:40 – Wise Effort: Using your energy in alignment with your values
08:10 – Genius Energy: Recognizing your unique strengths
12:44 – Overcoming “I Don’t Have Time to Exercise” with wise effort
15:40 – Stalling Behavior: How to recognize and manage it
20:03 – Productive Procrastination: Turning stalling energy into productive movement
27:12 – Choice Point Tool: Decision moments to redirect energy toward exercise
32:47 – Supporting Your Future Self: Setting up routines and contexts that help you stay active
36:10 – Relationship Map: Aligning movement goals, energy, and relationships
45:38 – Movement, Community, and Celebrations: Engaging others in activity
49:58 – Energy Audit for Decision Making: Four questions to guide your choices
57:02 – Listener Question: Floor sleeping and neck tension
BOOKS & RESEARCH MENTIONED
I Know I Should Exercise But... 44 Reasons We Don’t Move and How to Get Over Them by Diana Hill & Katy Bowman
Wise Effort: How to Focus Your Genius Energy on What Matters Most by Diana Hill
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About Dr Diana Hill
MADE POSSIBLE BY OUR WONDERFUL SPONSORS:
Ikaria Design, creators of the Soul Seat®, a height adjustable chair that allows you to sit in diverse shapes including cross-legged, take 10% of new inventory with code DNA10
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Sweet Skins, organic hemp and cotton clothing that is stylish, flexible and designed to move with you, take 20% off with code Movement20
Smart Playrooms, design and products to keep you and your kids engaged and active at home, take 10% off monkey bars, rock wall panels and holds with code DNA10
Venn Design, beautiful floor cushions and ball seats that keep you moving at home or at the office
Peluva, Five-toe minimalist sports shoes ideal for walking and higher impact activities. Take 15% off with code NUTRITIOUSMOVEMENT
Thoughts/questions email us at podcast@nutritiousmovement.com
Your Voice on the Podcast: Read The Credits
12:44 – Overcoming “I Don’t Have Time to Exercise” with wise effort
15:40 – Stalling Behavior: How to recognize and manage it
20:03 – Productive Procrastination: Turning stalling energy into productive movement
27:12 – Choice Point Tool: Decision moments to redirect energy toward exercise
32:47 – Supporting Your Future Self: Setting up routines and contexts that help you stay active
36:10 – Relationship Map: Aligning movement goals, energy, and relationships
45:38 – Movement, Community, and Celebrations: Engaging others in activity
49:58 – Energy Audit for Decision Making: Four questions to guide your choices
57:02 – Listener Question: Floor sleeping and neck tension
BOOKS & RESEARCH MENTIONED
I Know I Should Exercise But... 44 Reasons We Don’t Move and How to Get Over Them by Diana Hill & Katy Bowman
Wise Effort: How to Focus Your Genius Energy on What Matters Most by Diana Hill
CONNECT, MOVE & LEARN
Join Our Newsletter: Movement Colored Glasses
Try Katy's Virtual Studio Free for 7 days!
About Dr Diana Hill
MADE POSSIBLE BY OUR WONDERFUL SPONSORS:
Ikaria Design, creators of the Soul Seat®, a height adjustable chair that allows you to sit in diverse shapes including cross-legged, take 10% of new inventory with code DNA10
Earth Runners, minimalist sandals that mimic being truly barefoot through their grounding technology, take 10% off with code DNA10
Sweet Skins, organic hemp and cotton clothing that is stylish, flexible and designed to move with you, take 20% off with code Movement20
Smart Playrooms, design and products to keep you and your kids engaged and active at home, take 10% off monkey bars, rock wall panels and holds with code DNA10
Venn Design, beautiful floor cushions and ball seats that keep you moving at home or at the office
Peluva, Five-toe minimalist sports shoes ideal for walking and higher impact activities. Take 15% off with code NUTRITIOUSMOVEMENT
Thoughts/questions email us at podcast@nutritiousmovement.com
Your Voice on the Podcast: Read The Credits
Creators and Guests
What is Move Your DNA with Katy Bowman?
Although the world is becoming mostly sedentary, our bodies still require a wide variety of daily movements in order to work well. Many of us struggle to get regular exercise, but even that can fall short of nourishing the body from head to toe. How can we move more—a lot more—when we have sore, stiff parts and overly busy lifestyles?
Join Katy Bowman M.S., biomechanist, author, and movement educator as she combines big-picture lessons on biomechanics, kinesiology, physiology, and natural human movement with simple and practical solutions and exercises to get all your body parts moving better. Katy’s lighthearted and funny approach helps us all put the movement back in our lives, and the joy back in our movement!