WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:00.789 --> 00:00:06.320 Welcome to the Soul Touched by Dogs Podcast, the show for dog lovers who 00:00:06.340 --> 00:00:12.000 see dogs not as toys or tools, but wise souls worth our respect and care. 00:00:12.580 --> 00:00:14.559 I'm an Herrmann, and I'm your host. 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:20.560 I talk to poor some humans, people who do great work for dogs and their people. 00:00:21.099 --> 00:00:23.360 So come and join us for today's conversation. 00:00:25.101 --> 00:00:26.331 Anke: Hello, welcome Tania. 00:00:26.381 --> 00:00:28.111 I'm excited to have you 00:00:28.111 --> 00:00:28.541 Tanja: here. 00:00:29.531 --> 00:00:30.811 Hi, good morning. 00:00:30.951 --> 00:00:31.861 Nice to be here. 00:00:31.861 --> 00:00:32.921 Thank you for having me. 00:00:33.931 --> 00:00:34.721 Anke: It's awesome. 00:00:35.051 --> 00:00:36.401 And I love your background. 00:00:36.451 --> 00:00:37.241 I love your background. 00:00:37.251 --> 00:00:40.511 Anybody who's just listening, do yourself a favor, watch the video. 00:00:42.041 --> 00:00:47.186 So Let's start out, give people an overview where you're from, originally 00:00:47.186 --> 00:00:49.256 where you're based, and what's the 00:00:49.256 --> 00:00:49.446 day 00:00:49.446 --> 00:00:49.806 Tanja: job. 00:00:50.606 --> 00:00:50.916 Sure. 00:00:51.356 --> 00:00:56.946 So, um, welcome to my rainbow cloud, if you're watching the episode, and, um, 00:00:56.996 --> 00:00:58.726 it's really great to be here with you. 00:00:59.186 --> 00:01:01.226 I am originally from Germany. 00:01:01.616 --> 00:01:03.836 Um, but I am based in the UK. 00:01:03.836 --> 00:01:08.796 I've been here 19 years now, so, um, pretty much half my 00:01:08.796 --> 00:01:10.166 life I've been in the UK. 00:01:10.726 --> 00:01:15.406 Um, and my day job is painting, so I am a full time artist. 00:01:15.686 --> 00:01:22.431 I create these very Very colorful, vibrant, um, happy paintings. 00:01:22.431 --> 00:01:28.701 I call them my happiness anchors to sort of make people smile, sort of give them 00:01:28.701 --> 00:01:32.921 a break from their day if they come home and they see this art and I just want 00:01:32.921 --> 00:01:37.761 them to, you know, breathe and feel happy. 00:01:37.841 --> 00:01:41.301 And, um, so, so yeah, that's what they do. 00:01:42.121 --> 00:01:46.051 They anchor happiness in homes and offices, um, all around the world. 00:01:46.061 --> 00:01:48.181 So that's what I do. 00:01:48.181 --> 00:01:48.581 I love 00:01:48.581 --> 00:01:48.781 Anke: it. 00:01:48.861 --> 00:01:49.231 I love it. 00:01:49.231 --> 00:01:53.411 I, I mean, first of all, I think a lot of people go like, wait, wait, wait, 00:01:53.411 --> 00:01:58.661 what, how do you, you know, so many people try and turn a passion, especially 00:01:58.661 --> 00:02:03.091 try and turn their art into a business and into a full time, um, career. 00:02:03.121 --> 00:02:07.261 And so I think that's, there's, there's material for another episode 00:02:07.261 --> 00:02:11.876 for a different show, but, um, Yeah, the happiness, Anke, and I think it's 00:02:11.876 --> 00:02:13.436 almost like, it's just like dogs, right? 00:02:13.436 --> 00:02:15.406 Like, you come home and they just brighten up your day. 00:02:16.596 --> 00:02:17.696 Tanja: It is, actually, yes. 00:02:17.736 --> 00:02:20.366 When you say that, it's like, I mean, obviously the dog, it comes 00:02:20.686 --> 00:02:23.476 at you, it's so happy to see you, it sort of wags its tail. 00:02:23.986 --> 00:02:28.401 And, um, so the paintings are, I guess, They sort of hang on 00:02:28.401 --> 00:02:32.181 your wall and wag their tails, you know, like jump out of it. 00:02:32.191 --> 00:02:33.541 They're very, they're so bright. 00:02:33.541 --> 00:02:36.331 They really are, you know, they, they stand out. 00:02:36.561 --> 00:02:40.431 Um, they, um, you know, you will notice. 00:02:41.081 --> 00:02:44.171 And when you, you know, you, so you walk in a room and there's this sort 00:02:44.171 --> 00:02:51.971 of splash of color and, um, those people who, my collectors, they, they 00:02:51.971 --> 00:02:53.491 collect my art because they love it. 00:02:53.511 --> 00:02:58.731 So even, you know, 10 years later, they still get that same effect of 00:02:59.241 --> 00:03:02.071 just smiling when they see the work. 00:03:02.091 --> 00:03:04.801 And, um, that's, that's my aim. 00:03:04.831 --> 00:03:06.221 I think there's so much. 00:03:06.701 --> 00:03:12.651 Um, out there in the world that kind of bombards us and, and, and, and 00:03:12.651 --> 00:03:14.631 brings up loads of different emotions. 00:03:14.631 --> 00:03:20.451 And I just want to go with peaceful happiness and, you know, 00:03:20.891 --> 00:03:23.771 yeah, that's kind of my, my goal. 00:03:23.771 --> 00:03:24.281 I love that. 00:03:25.661 --> 00:03:30.211 Anke: It's almost, you know, I remember like the first time we spoke, my reaction 00:03:30.241 --> 00:03:31.411 was, Oh my God, I love you, baby. 00:03:31.711 --> 00:03:34.071 You know, and I had the same reaction again this morning. 00:03:34.401 --> 00:03:35.421 It's like, you cannot. 00:03:36.031 --> 00:03:41.221 It's almost impossible to feel kind of sad and, you know, looking at so 00:03:41.221 --> 00:03:44.371 much, there's so much life in there, it's so vibrant and it's just like 00:03:44.371 --> 00:03:46.111 you can't come home to a dog and feel 00:03:46.111 --> 00:03:46.631 Tanja: miserable. 00:03:47.261 --> 00:03:49.011 Exactly, exactly. 00:03:49.111 --> 00:03:55.931 Um, it's, it's, it's like, um, you know, The moment you're with your dog, the 00:03:55.941 --> 00:04:02.011 day just kind of, at least for a moment, you know, the day just washes away and 00:04:02.401 --> 00:04:05.101 you don't think about it that much. 00:04:05.131 --> 00:04:08.261 And that's kind of what I go for with my art as well. 00:04:08.361 --> 00:04:13.641 I want that, that effect, you know, that it's almost like a break in your nervous 00:04:13.651 --> 00:04:17.481 system or something, you know, like a little, like this anchor that it's like, 00:04:17.501 --> 00:04:21.311 Brett, you're home now, you know, you're in a good space, you're safe, you're, 00:04:21.641 --> 00:04:26.971 you know, you can take a breather and, you know, just sort of come down from 00:04:27.231 --> 00:04:33.416 whatever day you've And, um, actually, even though, um, so I guess people who 00:04:33.416 --> 00:04:35.966 are not that much into my art, they kind of look at it and it's like, oh, 00:04:35.966 --> 00:04:38.006 that's quite nice for children and stuff. 00:04:38.336 --> 00:04:45.576 But actually, um, so 90 percent of my art is owned and displayed by adults. 00:04:45.676 --> 00:04:50.506 So it's actually a very small percentage of people who buy the, the 00:04:50.506 --> 00:04:52.696 art or actually, um, the cushions. 00:04:52.696 --> 00:04:56.026 I, I have, um, for a while I was doing cushions and they're 00:04:56.031 --> 00:04:57.106 just sort of coming back. 00:04:57.106 --> 00:05:00.646 So for example, this is one of them. 00:05:00.651 --> 00:05:03.766 And, um, I have a whole, you can sort of see them in the background. 00:05:04.186 --> 00:05:07.786 Um, I have loads of them, , but, um, so. 00:05:08.071 --> 00:05:12.131 Very, very few of them, of all the questions that were then 00:05:12.131 --> 00:05:15.531 went out, very few of them are sort of in children's rooms. 00:05:15.671 --> 00:05:19.261 I mean, yes, I have, I know people who send me photos and, you know, 00:05:19.701 --> 00:05:24.371 like with their little ones in the crib or in the, in the nursery, but 00:05:24.421 --> 00:05:27.021 most of them are in living rooms. 00:05:27.251 --> 00:05:28.631 you know, on couches. 00:05:28.721 --> 00:05:32.301 I had, I had one person, he bought one for every room in his house, 00:05:32.551 --> 00:05:36.961 so he just has one in every, every guest room, every, every room in his 00:05:36.981 --> 00:05:38.731 house has a, has one of my cushions. 00:05:39.321 --> 00:05:46.176 And, um, So yeah, it's, it's um, it's mostly adults who, who really respond 00:05:46.226 --> 00:05:50.226 to my art and who, um, who love it 00:05:50.446 --> 00:05:51.166 Anke: in their home. 00:05:51.776 --> 00:05:53.966 And it's, I think it's not surprising, right? 00:05:53.966 --> 00:05:59.026 Because I think, you know, everything from kids toys and clothes, everything 00:05:59.026 --> 00:06:02.486 is always colourful, but as adults we don't really get that that much. 00:06:02.776 --> 00:06:07.836 You know, most of our clothes are sort of a little more, you know, and, and that 00:06:07.906 --> 00:06:10.196 splash of colour, I think it always works. 00:06:10.196 --> 00:06:11.116 And I'm like, I'm 00:06:11.116 --> 00:06:11.416 Tanja: just like... 00:06:11.706 --> 00:06:14.220 Oh my god, there's a cushion with dogs on it! 00:06:14.220 --> 00:06:17.286 You know, with Ryan Gannis and dogs, it's like, oh! 00:06:18.096 --> 00:06:21.636 I had a cushion, I had a cushion with this one on it. 00:06:22.026 --> 00:06:27.156 Um, but that's just left the studio, so um, that's not here 00:06:27.156 --> 00:06:28.806 right now, so I can't show it. 00:06:29.306 --> 00:06:29.606 Oh! 00:06:30.756 --> 00:06:32.516 Yeah, it's very cute, yeah. 00:06:33.351 --> 00:06:38.551 And, um, I think that's also when I started doing the, the greeting cards, um, 00:06:38.611 --> 00:06:44.641 so I have, I have this one as a greeting card, you know, they came out so nice. 00:06:45.141 --> 00:06:50.501 Um, and I just, I was so excited and I took them everywhere with me and I 00:06:50.501 --> 00:06:55.541 ended up selling hundreds of cards just sort of in person and it's, it's all. 00:06:55.881 --> 00:06:57.131 You know, it's all adults. 00:06:57.131 --> 00:06:59.951 And again, it's a very small percentage of people said, Oh, I 00:06:59.971 --> 00:07:02.921 can get this for my grandchild, you know, grandchild or something. 00:07:02.931 --> 00:07:06.211 But most of them are like, I can't wait to send this to my friends. 00:07:06.301 --> 00:07:10.131 And, you know, like send out these sort of happy, happy greetings. 00:07:10.191 --> 00:07:16.671 And, um, that just makes me really happy to, you know, I just recently sold a print 00:07:16.971 --> 00:07:21.411 where, where a collector they had bought, um, they'd actually bought two paintings. 00:07:21.996 --> 00:07:24.616 Two prints and a card at the exhibition, and then they 00:07:24.616 --> 00:07:27.676 commissioned, um, their dog portrait. 00:07:27.696 --> 00:07:31.836 So this is actually the Snelly, she's an actual portrait. 00:07:32.226 --> 00:07:38.476 And, um, and then they're just messaging, like, hey, can we have another print of 00:07:38.476 --> 00:07:40.976 one of the prints that, hey, they had bought, but they're like, we're not giving 00:07:40.976 --> 00:07:45.086 away our print, but we want to give a print to our friend for their birthday. 00:07:45.496 --> 00:07:46.586 Can we have another one? 00:07:46.606 --> 00:07:47.106 And I just. 00:07:47.371 --> 00:07:49.251 So, you know, they just bought it and we send it off. 00:07:49.781 --> 00:07:52.631 And, um, but yes, this, I love this one. 00:07:52.671 --> 00:07:55.191 So this is just a print, um, of the original. 00:07:55.221 --> 00:07:58.571 See, they already have the original, but, uh, so this is Nelly. 00:07:58.931 --> 00:08:01.981 And, um, I, it was so much fun. 00:08:02.281 --> 00:08:06.451 Um, the original is a little bit wider, but for this format, it worked out. 00:08:06.911 --> 00:08:07.841 And, um. 00:08:08.216 --> 00:08:12.666 It was sort of, I'd never met her before, so I'd done the portrait 00:08:13.106 --> 00:08:16.476 from photographs, he sent me loads and loads and loads of photographs. 00:08:16.716 --> 00:08:19.056 Anke: I was just about to ask you, how does that work? 00:08:20.376 --> 00:08:27.426 Tanja: So, um, so he sent me a ton of photographs and then, um, and then I kind 00:08:27.426 --> 00:08:30.226 of went in and I did the first design. 00:08:30.256 --> 00:08:32.806 So I, I go in digitally. 00:08:33.421 --> 00:08:36.861 I recently learned how to do it, and that's such a game changer. 00:08:37.211 --> 00:08:43.081 But, so, um, this was sort of the first draft I did on, 00:08:43.121 --> 00:08:44.711 uh, on the tablet digitally. 00:08:45.051 --> 00:08:50.151 And, um, I didn't have the colors for the dog in my digital file 00:08:50.151 --> 00:08:51.576 because I don't work with... 00:08:52.056 --> 00:08:55.206 Um, I don't really have black in my art, and so the dog is, is, 00:08:55.206 --> 00:08:58.926 is black, and I was like, okay, I need to, I need to do that by hand. 00:08:58.926 --> 00:09:00.896 I need to mix the colors by hand. 00:09:00.896 --> 00:09:02.086 I cannot do that digitally. 00:09:02.086 --> 00:09:06.346 I need to see the actual, I need to see the, the, the, the paint. 00:09:06.346 --> 00:09:07.876 I need to feel it with my brush. 00:09:07.876 --> 00:09:08.766 I need to know. 00:09:09.181 --> 00:09:10.451 What the paint is like. 00:09:10.451 --> 00:09:12.151 So I send it like this. 00:09:12.151 --> 00:09:15.761 I send it just sort of like an impression of the dog with the background, just 00:09:15.931 --> 00:09:19.381 as a general approval to sort of say like, does this, does this kind of work? 00:09:19.731 --> 00:09:21.341 And he's like, Oh my God, that's Nelly. 00:09:21.391 --> 00:09:22.841 You know, it cannot be any other dog. 00:09:22.851 --> 00:09:23.951 It must be my Nelly. 00:09:24.351 --> 00:09:26.061 And, um, so that was great. 00:09:26.071 --> 00:09:31.071 And then, um, when I had, so then I had painted the dog and done the 00:09:31.071 --> 00:09:34.401 painting and I took a photograph of her. 00:09:34.776 --> 00:09:39.706 Um, to, to sort of play around, and I went back in digitally to sort of design 00:09:39.706 --> 00:09:46.006 the face, design the colors, uh, plan out the shadows, and, um, so basically, 00:09:46.016 --> 00:09:50.106 I don't know if you can see from, so the face was different from the photograph, 00:09:50.646 --> 00:09:54.066 and then I went in with all the different photographs and found, and tried to kind 00:09:54.066 --> 00:10:01.286 of make her face more, More smiley and more, um, you know, see, like, counted. 00:10:01.286 --> 00:10:01.366 She 00:10:01.596 --> 00:10:03.106 Anke: looks at you, like, it's really like... 00:10:03.866 --> 00:10:04.766 Tanja: Yeah, yeah. 00:10:05.076 --> 00:10:07.996 And, you know, I thought of, like, how many teeth does she have? 00:10:08.016 --> 00:10:10.416 Like, you know, I, like, this is really important. 00:10:10.416 --> 00:10:12.716 Like, on all her pictures, how many teeth can you see? 00:10:12.716 --> 00:10:14.196 Like, what, what does her tongue do? 00:10:14.216 --> 00:10:14.926 Like, with these... 00:10:15.066 --> 00:10:19.456 With these two, you know, it was, this is a sort of work in progress, so it's not, 00:10:19.816 --> 00:10:23.346 it's not finished, it's just not finished yet, but it was sort of really important, 00:10:23.356 --> 00:10:25.046 like, where do their tongues go, you know? 00:10:25.046 --> 00:10:25.696 It's different with every dog, because like, my puppy, 00:10:25.696 --> 00:10:26.130 like puppy, she's a year now, 00:10:26.130 --> 00:10:29.916 Anke: but she has this really long tongue and always hangs out to the side. 00:10:33.611 --> 00:10:36.671 You know, and the other dog, she just has a little bit of the tip 00:10:36.671 --> 00:10:39.751 of the tongue in the front, like, very different from dog to dog. 00:10:40.031 --> 00:10:42.751 Tanja: Yeah, so it was really good to have loads of pictures. 00:10:42.751 --> 00:10:43.771 He really did send me loads. 00:10:44.201 --> 00:10:49.981 And then this is, so obviously, so this is then how the face came out painted. 00:10:50.261 --> 00:10:53.431 So, um, I did make a few more changes from there. 00:10:53.891 --> 00:11:02.066 And it was actually funny, is, um, just before I was Like I had, because every, 00:11:02.076 --> 00:11:06.326 with the paintings, they get more loads of layers to make the colors super vibrant. 00:11:06.906 --> 00:11:11.936 And just before I was kind of finishing off the last layer, 00:11:12.116 --> 00:11:15.666 I kind of, suddenly I was like, what if the dog is not blue black? 00:11:15.896 --> 00:11:18.766 Like, you know, like, what if, what if she's not a cool black? 00:11:18.766 --> 00:11:20.046 What if she's a brown black? 00:11:20.576 --> 00:11:22.126 And, or like a warm black? 00:11:22.126 --> 00:11:25.406 And I just, for me on my, on the pictures, it looked different. 00:11:25.406 --> 00:11:28.346 I was like, what if it's like, you know, that would be terrible. 00:11:28.346 --> 00:11:29.961 So I messaged like, look. 00:11:30.311 --> 00:11:33.731 Just, just to check in, you know, is she cool or is she warm? 00:11:33.791 --> 00:11:38.111 And you know, when I was putting the brown in the brown hair in the face, I was 00:11:38.111 --> 00:11:40.941 like, it suddenly the rest looked so cold. 00:11:41.381 --> 00:11:44.381 And then he's like, no, no, she is, you know, and, and he was like, oh no, 00:11:44.381 --> 00:11:47.411 we comment, you know, we always talk about how, how she's like sort of a bit 00:11:47.411 --> 00:11:49.361 bluish and, you know, more cool black. 00:11:50.531 --> 00:11:50.771 Okay. 00:11:51.211 --> 00:11:56.221 So then, um, I, then they came to the studio to pick up the painting 00:11:56.281 --> 00:11:58.021 and it was a surprise for the wife. 00:11:58.826 --> 00:12:03.216 And she had no idea, none whatsoever, and she didn't even know where they were 00:12:03.216 --> 00:12:06.336 going that day, and so she insisted, well, no, she didn't insist, but 00:12:06.336 --> 00:12:07.796 she said, oh, can we bring the dog? 00:12:08.026 --> 00:12:11.776 And he was like, I don't know, and so I said, yeah, please do bring the dog. 00:12:12.236 --> 00:12:19.326 And so, they came here, and, um, it was so fun to, to meet, uh, Nelif in, you 00:12:19.326 --> 00:12:23.706 know, for the first time, and as they came into the studio, and, um, I had, 00:12:24.221 --> 00:12:28.671 sort of hidden the painting a little bit, and then as they walked around and 00:12:28.701 --> 00:12:33.041 looked and then she went back in this part of the studio and had a look around 00:12:33.041 --> 00:12:37.771 and then I brought the painting out, put it on the desk, uh, to display it, and 00:12:37.771 --> 00:12:42.711 when she came back she immediately was like, why is my dog there in a painting? 00:12:43.051 --> 00:12:45.651 And then she started crying and she was I 00:12:46.311 --> 00:12:47.661 Anke: saw her just thinking about it! 00:12:47.661 --> 00:12:50.691 Tanja: Oh, it was like, that was the best moment because I was like, 00:12:50.691 --> 00:12:52.431 what if she doesn't recognize it? 00:12:52.771 --> 00:12:55.641 You know, because she didn't have any idea, right? 00:12:55.681 --> 00:13:01.071 So what if she's like, oh, that is a nice dog, but the moment she saw it, she's 00:13:01.151 --> 00:13:03.991 like, why is my dog on this painting? 00:13:04.051 --> 00:13:05.781 And she was so happy. 00:13:05.841 --> 00:13:07.571 And, um, yeah, it 00:13:07.571 --> 00:13:12.821 Anke: was, I think that's just the most adorable, like, you know, I don't know. 00:13:12.831 --> 00:13:15.641 It's just like to see your dog and, you know, and especially 00:13:15.641 --> 00:13:17.081 then if you can have twins of it. 00:13:17.231 --> 00:13:19.361 You know, it's like, oh, you can have it everywhere. 00:13:19.361 --> 00:13:22.151 You can have a cushion and you can have the cards. 00:13:23.611 --> 00:13:26.551 Tanja: Yeah, I mean, technically, you know, if they wanted to, they could, 00:13:26.641 --> 00:13:32.551 um, have, I could make cards for them, um, and then they could use it to send 00:13:32.581 --> 00:13:34.141 out to their friends or something. 00:13:34.451 --> 00:13:41.021 Um, I didn't, I, I haven't talked to them about, like, open prints 00:13:41.061 --> 00:13:46.041 or, you know, making cards just in general, because it still feels. 00:13:46.661 --> 00:13:51.351 You know, when I paint a dog for myself, like the, like the, the little Frenchie 00:13:51.501 --> 00:13:56.581 here, it's different, you know, it's, it's for me, and it's, it's, um, of, of 00:13:56.581 --> 00:14:00.941 someone who has shared their reference picture, and it's great, and I will show 00:14:00.941 --> 00:14:05.161 the person who, who made the picture available, but it is, it's for me, 00:14:05.161 --> 00:14:08.731 it's, it's, you know, because I want to paint that happy, cute little faces, 00:14:09.551 --> 00:14:12.981 and, you know, I want to imagine them, like, wagging their tails while they're 00:14:13.541 --> 00:14:16.031 excited to be painted, and then I. 00:14:16.326 --> 00:14:19.716 I can make prints and cushions and, and cards and, you 00:14:19.716 --> 00:14:22.686 know, because it feels open. 00:14:22.696 --> 00:14:27.566 But with the commission, even though anyone who sees this They 00:14:27.566 --> 00:14:28.456 wouldn't know the difference. 00:14:28.466 --> 00:14:32.746 They wouldn't know that this is someone's dog, you know, but I feel 00:14:32.756 --> 00:14:39.996 like this is, it's so special that, um, I wouldn't by default just 00:14:39.996 --> 00:14:41.456 make prints or cards or anything. 00:14:41.456 --> 00:14:42.206 No, no, 00:14:42.206 --> 00:14:42.966 Anke: I don't think so. 00:14:42.966 --> 00:14:46.466 No, I think I was thinking of like prints for these people. 00:14:46.596 --> 00:14:50.756 I'd say if you were to do, if you were to do something like this for, 00:14:50.806 --> 00:14:54.776 for my dogs, you know, I would, yeah, I would want like that. 00:14:55.436 --> 00:14:59.876 My cards and my cushions, because they're my dogs, they mean something to me. 00:14:59.876 --> 00:15:01.266 They don't mean that much 00:15:01.266 --> 00:15:02.086 Tanja: to anybody else. 00:15:02.156 --> 00:15:02.996 So that's just... 00:15:03.016 --> 00:15:07.806 And you may want to give, you know, give a cushion of your dog to someone who knows 00:15:07.806 --> 00:15:09.276 your dog very well, you know, like... 00:15:09.286 --> 00:15:10.086 They can order that. 00:15:11.496 --> 00:15:15.946 But, um, but yeah, so obviously even with a commission, the copyright stays with me. 00:15:15.946 --> 00:15:21.506 So if they wanted to do that, they, you know, then they just 00:15:21.506 --> 00:15:23.066 get in touch and I can talk. 00:15:23.426 --> 00:15:27.816 to them about how it works and like how we can make that happen for them. 00:15:28.296 --> 00:15:34.296 Um, but, but yeah, I don't, it doesn't feel, it feels a bit yucky 00:15:34.296 --> 00:15:36.246 for me to do it, so I wouldn't do it. 00:15:36.596 --> 00:15:36.756 It 00:15:39.536 --> 00:15:42.276 Anke: beats the whole purpose of it, you know, that you have this, 00:15:42.316 --> 00:15:45.656 because it's about the connection you have with the dog and the art, 00:15:45.816 --> 00:15:47.246 you know, so it's not a public. 00:15:47.831 --> 00:15:48.451 Yeah, I don't know. 00:15:48.921 --> 00:15:49.981 Totally, totally agree. 00:15:50.451 --> 00:15:55.251 So if, if somebody gets as excited as I am, you know, so where should we, 00:15:55.291 --> 00:16:00.471 where should they go to find out to get, you know, more eye candy and, and 00:16:00.471 --> 00:16:01.521 Tanja: can get in touch with you? 00:16:01.701 --> 00:16:02.031 Yeah. 00:16:02.441 --> 00:16:07.081 So I do have an Instagram, um, which is I guess it will be displayed, right? 00:16:07.081 --> 00:16:07.621 It's my little... 00:16:07.621 --> 00:16:08.361 Yeah, no, I will, 00:16:08.401 --> 00:16:08.621 Anke: yeah. 00:16:08.621 --> 00:16:11.021 If you want to say it out, because this is going to be a podcast 00:16:11.081 --> 00:16:13.751 too, if you want to sort of say it out loud, but it's going to be... 00:16:13.751 --> 00:16:13.841 Of course, yeah, 00:16:14.131 --> 00:16:14.471 Tanja: yeah. 00:16:14.911 --> 00:16:20.711 So, um, my Instagram is, um, at Tanya Hassel underscore 00:16:20.761 --> 00:16:23.881 art, and it's Tanya with a J. 00:16:24.521 --> 00:16:32.381 Um, and so usually if you start typing in like T A N J A It sort of comes up, 00:16:32.451 --> 00:16:37.661 at least for me, and it's, it's just a really bright icon, like, you know, like a 00:16:38.011 --> 00:16:43.891 rainbow, like a rainbow little round icon, um, with, I think it's, it's the face. 00:16:44.626 --> 00:16:46.106 I think my face is on there. 00:16:46.106 --> 00:16:48.226 But anyway, you would know what my face looks like because you're 00:16:48.226 --> 00:16:49.626 on a podcast if you're listening. 00:16:50.216 --> 00:16:52.966 Anke: Yeah, but I think if you, you know, it's bright colors. 00:16:52.986 --> 00:16:57.626 I see, I don't like, I'm, I followed you and I kind of, I don't remember what 00:16:57.626 --> 00:17:00.266 the icon is, but it's clearly colorful. 00:17:00.476 --> 00:17:05.316 And so I knew it was you, so there was no, there's no, there's no mistaking. 00:17:05.386 --> 00:17:10.066 So if you like arts, if you love, if you love art, if you love dogs, like. 00:17:10.601 --> 00:17:14.721 Get in touch with Tanya and do yourself a favor, you know, get you, give yourself 00:17:14.721 --> 00:17:17.181 a gift, give a gift to somebody else. 00:17:17.691 --> 00:17:19.571 Uh, I promise you, you'll love it. 00:17:19.651 --> 00:17:21.351 So thank you so much, Tanya. 00:17:21.411 --> 00:17:22.551 That was just wonderful. 00:17:22.561 --> 00:17:25.711 A real bright spark in anyone's day. 00:17:26.491 --> 00:17:27.021 And thanks for 00:17:27.021 --> 00:17:27.401 Tanja: coming. 00:17:28.071 --> 00:17:29.201 Thank you for having me. 00:17:29.918 --> 00:17:31.148 Thanks so much for listening. 00:17:31.668 --> 00:17:35.968 If you 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