1 00:00:00,266 --> 00:00:02,969 Oh, I see the lights on the camera here, Joyce. 2 00:00:02,969 --> 00:00:03,970 That must be ready. 3 00:00:03,970 --> 00:00:06,873 To go, Well, welcome, welcome. 4 00:00:06,873 --> 00:00:09,175 Welcome to your show. 5 00:00:09,175 --> 00:00:10,543 Oh, yo. 6 00:00:10,543 --> 00:00:12,946 To our show, joy. This is what's good. 7 00:00:12,946 --> 00:00:14,447 Yeah, definitely subscribe on YouTube. 8 00:00:14,447 --> 00:00:15,515 If you can't, it's free. 9 00:00:15,515 --> 00:00:18,451 And, we've been having a whole bunch of fun doing this and. 10 00:00:18,451 --> 00:00:19,519 And leading great people. 11 00:00:19,519 --> 00:00:20,520 Really great people. 12 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:21,488 I mean, every now and then, we 13 00:00:21,488 --> 00:00:24,257 we typically have our, our half hour broadcast each and every week. 14 00:00:24,257 --> 00:00:27,027 And then we bring in a guest and a gentleman I've known for a long time. 15 00:00:27,027 --> 00:00:29,963 Joyce, I know you have to. This guy is so talented. 16 00:00:29,963 --> 00:00:31,831 He can do it all. 17 00:00:31,831 --> 00:00:35,435 And he has a show coming to the Legacy Theater in Branford, which I love. 18 00:00:35,702 --> 00:00:37,871 Stony Creek is beautiful. Oh, no. 19 00:00:37,871 --> 00:00:40,373 I used to be the. Puppet theater. 20 00:00:40,373 --> 00:00:41,408 Now, but, 21 00:00:41,408 --> 00:00:44,611 he he just going to be doing a show, like, featuring a lot of the 60s vocalist. 22 00:00:44,711 --> 00:00:46,346 Who is this guy? 23 00:00:46,346 --> 00:00:47,447 What is that? 24 00:00:47,447 --> 00:00:48,448 I think it's over there. 25 00:00:48,448 --> 00:00:49,249 What's his name? 26 00:00:49,249 --> 00:00:51,751 To the sea or. Is back or. 27 00:00:51,751 --> 00:00:54,020 No, it's Chaz Esposito. 28 00:00:54,020 --> 00:00:56,189 Chaz. Good to have you, man. John. Hi, Joyce. 29 00:00:56,189 --> 00:00:57,123 This is great. 30 00:00:57,123 --> 00:00:57,791 This is great. 31 00:00:57,791 --> 00:01:00,226 It's so great to have you on. Long time no. See. 32 00:01:00,226 --> 00:01:02,262 I know she. Looks exactly. The same. 33 00:01:02,262 --> 00:01:03,396 Oh, she had a great show. 34 00:01:03,396 --> 00:01:06,399 I love you, okay? And no Botox. 35 00:01:06,633 --> 00:01:07,901 That Joyce talks. That's, 36 00:01:10,070 --> 00:01:11,471 Yeah, sure. 37 00:01:11,471 --> 00:01:13,239 Come and get some Joyce talks. 38 00:01:13,239 --> 00:01:16,643 Yes, Joyce wants it, but. This is great. 39 00:01:16,743 --> 00:01:17,577 This is great. What you have. 40 00:01:17,577 --> 00:01:19,946 What's good with John and Joyce, I love it. Oh, we're really. 41 00:01:19,946 --> 00:01:21,081 And thanks for inviting me. 42 00:01:21,081 --> 00:01:22,582 We got some great people here. 43 00:01:22,582 --> 00:01:25,185 We got David and Steph in the background. We're only as good as they are. 44 00:01:25,185 --> 00:01:26,319 Yeah, they do their part to help us. 45 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:27,487 Great people sound good? 46 00:01:27,487 --> 00:01:30,423 Yeah. He did great makeup. I have no shine. 47 00:01:30,423 --> 00:01:32,125 So I know she's the first person. 48 00:01:32,125 --> 00:01:33,059 Who's ever done makeup on. 49 00:01:33,059 --> 00:01:36,062 I don't know if that's positive or negative. 50 00:01:37,330 --> 00:01:37,964 But George has. 51 00:01:37,964 --> 00:01:40,233 Let's get into this. You know right away about your story. 52 00:01:40,233 --> 00:01:43,203 I mean, you're well known around these parts and also nationally. 53 00:01:43,236 --> 00:01:44,237 You played Broadway. 54 00:01:44,237 --> 00:01:47,140 And tell us about some of the audition processes you've gone through. 55 00:01:47,140 --> 00:01:47,941 And crazy. 56 00:01:47,941 --> 00:01:48,641 Not easy. 57 00:01:48,641 --> 00:01:51,311 I mean, you have to develop a lot of Teflon in the business. 58 00:01:51,311 --> 00:01:53,646 You're in the entertainment business and go there 59 00:01:53,646 --> 00:01:55,982 and realize that people could not be so nice. 60 00:01:55,982 --> 00:01:59,018 Sometimes when they reject. Yeah, business. 61 00:01:59,018 --> 00:02:00,987 There's there's a lot of that, especially coming up. 62 00:02:00,987 --> 00:02:01,621 Right. 63 00:02:01,621 --> 00:02:02,288 Absolutely. 64 00:02:02,288 --> 00:02:05,058 There's there's more rejection than, you know, gain. 65 00:02:05,058 --> 00:02:07,894 But you, you fit the gain into the rejection. 66 00:02:07,894 --> 00:02:09,095 You learn, you learn to live with it. 67 00:02:09,095 --> 00:02:12,799 And part of my business I went into was as a casting director. 68 00:02:12,799 --> 00:02:14,701 I've been casting for 25, 30 years. 69 00:02:14,701 --> 00:02:17,670 Commercials, and industrials. 70 00:02:17,937 --> 00:02:18,505 Films. 71 00:02:18,505 --> 00:02:21,574 And I think I've learned to give it back to people 72 00:02:21,574 --> 00:02:24,711 like to be nice to people because it's tough. 73 00:02:24,844 --> 00:02:27,013 I know what it's like to be on both sides of the camera 74 00:02:27,013 --> 00:02:28,148 and the both sides of the stage. 75 00:02:28,148 --> 00:02:31,351 So, you know, treat people like human beings and be nice. 76 00:02:31,351 --> 00:02:34,754 And it comes back to, you know, more than you give it. 77 00:02:34,754 --> 00:02:37,590 So, you know, I know what it's like to be there. 78 00:02:37,590 --> 00:02:40,460 So when I audition, people, I'm gracious. 79 00:02:40,460 --> 00:02:42,228 They're there, and I thank them. 80 00:02:42,228 --> 00:02:45,632 And it could be a lot nicer business, let's put it that way. 81 00:02:45,665 --> 00:02:46,833 May I enjoy some? 82 00:02:46,833 --> 00:02:49,435 She'll tell you her story a little bit, but she's worked with so many great people 83 00:02:49,435 --> 00:02:52,505 like Michael Bolton and John Mellencamp and Carly Simon, Mariah Carey, 84 00:02:52,505 --> 00:02:53,606 and you seen them. 85 00:02:53,606 --> 00:02:54,607 And, you know, 86 00:02:54,607 --> 00:02:55,275 sometimes people 87 00:02:55,275 --> 00:02:58,278 can not be so nice to them on the way up or even when they made it. 88 00:02:58,344 --> 00:02:59,212 Yeah, absolutely. 89 00:02:59,212 --> 00:03:00,980 But there's a way to communicate with people. 90 00:03:00,980 --> 00:03:02,515 You can say something 91 00:03:02,515 --> 00:03:05,685 and a critical way, but do it, like you said, in a very nice way. 92 00:03:06,085 --> 00:03:07,320 Treat people, treat people. 93 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,623 With respect, and they'll come back to you no more than you, 94 00:03:10,690 --> 00:03:11,724 more than you can expect. 95 00:03:11,724 --> 00:03:13,026 So I knew Joyce 96 00:03:13,026 --> 00:03:16,029 back in the Michael Bolton days while Michael was still with her, but. 97 00:03:16,262 --> 00:03:17,263 Michael Lotan, right. 98 00:03:17,263 --> 00:03:19,666 Is below typical. Peloton bike tracks. 99 00:03:19,666 --> 00:03:21,100 Yeah yeah yeah oh yeah. 100 00:03:21,100 --> 00:03:24,871 She was, his right hand person and Yeah. 101 00:03:24,904 --> 00:03:28,107 Then Oakdale Theater, Oakdale Theater, when he, 102 00:03:28,374 --> 00:03:31,311 it was 1988 before he really, really hit. 103 00:03:31,311 --> 00:03:33,646 Right. You know, with a Grammy win and all of that. 104 00:03:33,646 --> 00:03:35,915 And you were down at the palace for some years. 105 00:03:35,915 --> 00:03:38,651 See Palace Theater. Don't forget memory. 106 00:03:38,651 --> 00:03:39,786 You might need makeup. 107 00:03:39,786 --> 00:03:41,387 My brain is still there. You know. 108 00:03:41,387 --> 00:03:42,555 I have a little shine. 109 00:03:42,555 --> 00:03:44,591 But other than that, that neuroplasticity. 110 00:03:44,591 --> 00:03:47,093 So we're. Still going. I have to remember. A lot of lyrics. 111 00:03:48,528 --> 00:03:49,329 That surprise you. 112 00:03:49,329 --> 00:03:50,296 Remember that? 113 00:03:50,296 --> 00:03:53,199 Oh, no, I totally over that. Remember your office? 114 00:03:53,199 --> 00:03:55,268 But she was a good girl. Theater. 115 00:03:55,268 --> 00:03:56,703 We work together. 116 00:03:56,703 --> 00:03:59,038 Back in the days you used to promote. 117 00:03:59,038 --> 00:04:02,041 The original guys Bo and, Ben. 118 00:04:02,141 --> 00:04:02,942 Yeah. 119 00:04:02,942 --> 00:04:05,078 Yeah. Boy, do I love them. 120 00:04:05,078 --> 00:04:07,046 I learned so much from Ben Siegel. 121 00:04:07,046 --> 00:04:08,214 That was the Oakdale. 122 00:04:08,214 --> 00:04:09,349 Great part. 123 00:04:09,349 --> 00:04:10,617 In the round. Oh, yeah. 124 00:04:10,617 --> 00:04:12,986 Yeah, yeah, yeah, you get. Better than that. 125 00:04:12,986 --> 00:04:14,754 Did you ever. Play those shows there? 126 00:04:14,754 --> 00:04:17,323 I did not know. I did not. 127 00:04:17,323 --> 00:04:20,260 Did you introduce some acts there or anything? 128 00:04:20,260 --> 00:04:21,861 You know, I did, you know, I. 129 00:04:21,861 --> 00:04:24,697 Knew there was an association with you with the old. 130 00:04:24,697 --> 00:04:28,768 Saint Ray fields used to do, a benefit, and I did perform there. 131 00:04:30,036 --> 00:04:31,604 What the heck was it called? 132 00:04:32,672 --> 00:04:34,274 It was a it was some sort of benefit, 133 00:04:34,274 --> 00:04:38,244 but I performed there a couple of times with that, but, lot more here. 134 00:04:38,244 --> 00:04:39,212 Less make up. 135 00:04:39,212 --> 00:04:41,014 You know, 136 00:04:41,014 --> 00:04:43,082 that's funny, Joyce. 137 00:04:43,082 --> 00:04:45,852 But I'll tell you, Chaz, I mean, you really you really know how to play a 138 00:04:45,852 --> 00:04:46,286 crowd. 139 00:04:46,286 --> 00:04:50,056 I mean, you're Bobby Darin is spot on, but not just Bobby Darin, right? Yes. 140 00:04:50,056 --> 00:04:54,260 I mean, you channel a lot of great artists like Frank Sinatra and Frankie Valli 141 00:04:54,260 --> 00:04:55,361 and Elvis, of course. 142 00:04:55,361 --> 00:04:57,630 And, I had a passion for the Darin thing. 143 00:04:57,630 --> 00:04:59,666 And, you know, 144 00:04:59,666 --> 00:05:02,168 I perform in a couple of touring shows now. 145 00:05:02,168 --> 00:05:05,738 One is Mac Is Back, which is my story of Bobby Darin. 146 00:05:05,738 --> 00:05:06,472 And the new show 147 00:05:06,472 --> 00:05:09,842 that we're doing at the Legacy Theater is like, Legends of the 60s. 148 00:05:09,976 --> 00:05:10,710 Is that going to be again? 149 00:05:10,710 --> 00:05:14,480 That's going to be May 1st to May through May 18th, 15 performances. 150 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,316 Legacy theater is beautiful. 151 00:05:16,316 --> 00:05:21,187 This is my third time, coming in there performing I can't wait. 152 00:05:21,187 --> 00:05:22,088 It's intimate. 153 00:05:22,088 --> 00:05:24,357 It's it's it's really a place to be. 154 00:05:24,357 --> 00:05:26,526 We're bringing the whole band in 12 pieces. 155 00:05:26,526 --> 00:05:30,596 So we really, you know, sometimes when I go to small venues, people who follow me, 156 00:05:30,797 --> 00:05:34,367 they'll say, oh, you shorten the band up, and now the band is the band. 157 00:05:34,367 --> 00:05:39,172 If it's 100 seat or 1000 seater, because we recreate that sound, whether, 158 00:05:39,172 --> 00:05:43,242 you know it's Tommy James or the Shondells or it's Sinatra, Strangers in the night, 159 00:05:43,543 --> 00:05:47,880 and you have to really produce that again to make it sound well. 160 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:52,952 So, you know, we don't cut cost for band it hat the band is the show. 161 00:05:52,952 --> 00:05:54,187 People are there on stage. 162 00:05:54,187 --> 00:05:55,822 You remember the record, they want. To hear the record. 163 00:05:55,822 --> 00:05:57,557 That's that's that's exactly. 164 00:05:57,557 --> 00:05:58,458 And especially when it's 165 00:05:58,458 --> 00:06:02,195 not the artists doing the record, but it started off doing it off Broadway 166 00:06:02,195 --> 00:06:07,066 show called Mack the Knife, which, I did for about 3 or 4 months off Broadway. 167 00:06:07,066 --> 00:06:09,635 And then we toured it for about 6 or 7 years. 168 00:06:09,635 --> 00:06:14,607 It had the, endorsement of the Bobby Darin estate, which was very, very difficult. 169 00:06:14,607 --> 00:06:15,842 Yeah, it was very big. 170 00:06:15,842 --> 00:06:19,011 And, Steve Loughner was the, trustee 171 00:06:19,011 --> 00:06:22,014 for the state, who's Bobby's former manager. 172 00:06:22,048 --> 00:06:24,050 That great career he had. 173 00:06:24,050 --> 00:06:25,017 And a great guy to know. 174 00:06:25,017 --> 00:06:29,389 I mean, he produced Easy Rider, the monkeys, because he had it. 175 00:06:29,389 --> 00:06:32,392 Screen Gems Entertainment managed Bobby. So. 176 00:06:32,392 --> 00:06:35,161 So that's how it ends? Yes. 177 00:06:35,161 --> 00:06:37,663 That's right. And Steve ran that. 178 00:06:37,663 --> 00:06:40,533 So just just getting him 179 00:06:40,533 --> 00:06:43,836 to say yes was a very difficult hill to climb. 180 00:06:43,836 --> 00:06:46,639 But, you know, I discovered Bobby as a kid. 181 00:06:46,639 --> 00:06:48,040 My mother sang a little bit. 182 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:53,212 And I remember watching the NBC special and, you know, the chart at the end. 183 00:06:53,212 --> 00:06:56,315 He would always sing Mack the Knife, and I didn't know who he was a kid. 184 00:06:56,315 --> 00:06:58,885 And my mother said, I love Bobby and I. And. 185 00:06:58,885 --> 00:07:01,120 And it just stuck in us. 186 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:02,922 My mother love Bobby Darin. 187 00:07:02,922 --> 00:07:04,490 I want to ask you about this. Sure. 188 00:07:04,490 --> 00:07:06,692 Because you said you do. The story of him. 189 00:07:06,692 --> 00:07:11,664 But I remember my mom feeling sorry for him because he had a heart condition. 190 00:07:12,031 --> 00:07:12,799 Very young. 191 00:07:12,799 --> 00:07:13,099 Yeah. 192 00:07:13,099 --> 00:07:16,502 Rheumatic heart fever from like 13, 12, 13. 193 00:07:16,502 --> 00:07:19,138 He wasn't supposed to make it to 17, 18 years old. 194 00:07:19,138 --> 00:07:21,674 So, you know, that's a great story to go off of. 195 00:07:21,674 --> 00:07:23,176 So when people listen to downer, 196 00:07:23,176 --> 00:07:26,813 when we did the original show and even when I did, the Mac is back, 197 00:07:26,813 --> 00:07:31,284 which is my stories of doing his show and his stories and, 198 00:07:31,417 --> 00:07:35,822 and meeting Wayne Newton and Dick Clark and Frank Gorshin and so. 199 00:07:35,822 --> 00:07:37,890 Gorshin, the. Riddler, the Riddler. 200 00:07:37,890 --> 00:07:41,260 I have a story for that telling in the show, but I'll tell you, 201 00:07:43,362 --> 00:07:45,965 you know, so the biggest problem Steve 202 00:07:45,965 --> 00:07:49,569 Blinder would have with Bobby is his fluctuation of mood music. 203 00:07:49,802 --> 00:07:51,904 You know, from country. 204 00:07:51,904 --> 00:07:55,741 You're the reason I'm living to big band beyond the sea to Mac to Splish splash. 205 00:07:55,741 --> 00:07:59,312 And, you know, he would finally say, you know, you have a lifetime. 206 00:07:59,912 --> 00:08:01,147 I don't have time. 207 00:08:01,147 --> 00:08:02,682 So I. Knew that. 208 00:08:02,682 --> 00:08:04,217 Oh, he knew it was coming. Sure. 209 00:08:04,217 --> 00:08:07,220 He knew he he knew he was going to live to 80 years old. 210 00:08:07,353 --> 00:08:11,057 So when he had the urge to change music, he did it. 211 00:08:11,357 --> 00:08:14,360 He didn't say, well, my audience went out. 212 00:08:14,694 --> 00:08:18,297 Some of the stories I've heard when he played the Copa in the late 60s, 213 00:08:18,631 --> 00:08:21,801 he was doing his, you know, protest songs. 214 00:08:21,801 --> 00:08:22,869 He was getting booed. 215 00:08:22,869 --> 00:08:24,337 He four piece band didn't care. 216 00:08:24,337 --> 00:08:26,572 So this is what I'm singing now. That's it. 217 00:08:26,572 --> 00:08:27,340 Take it or leave it. 218 00:08:27,340 --> 00:08:28,407 I mean, he was that 219 00:08:28,407 --> 00:08:32,311 strong of a willed guy, and he knew what his life was all about. 220 00:08:32,311 --> 00:08:34,847 And this is what I'm doing now. And sorry. 221 00:08:34,847 --> 00:08:37,817 I remember when he was younger, he said, he was going to be a millionaire 222 00:08:37,817 --> 00:08:40,419 before he was going to be 25 years old, legend. 223 00:08:40,419 --> 00:08:41,988 Before 25. 224 00:08:41,988 --> 00:08:43,322 And he became Sinatra. 225 00:08:43,322 --> 00:08:44,757 And he, 226 00:08:44,757 --> 00:08:47,827 he accomplished a lot of me because, like you said, he started out as a rock 227 00:08:47,827 --> 00:08:52,031 and roller, then became a little bit more of a lounge singer, like, like Sinatra. 228 00:08:52,198 --> 00:08:54,534 And then he would do if I Were a Carpenter, which. 229 00:08:54,534 --> 00:08:55,301 Many people don't even know. 230 00:08:55,301 --> 00:08:57,570 That was Bobby Darin. 1966. 231 00:08:57,570 --> 00:08:59,372 It was written by Tim. Hart, Tim Hardin. 232 00:08:59,372 --> 00:09:01,007 And also Johnny Cash and June Carter. 233 00:09:01,007 --> 00:09:03,142 Cash had a number one country hit with that. Correct. 234 00:09:03,142 --> 00:09:04,744 But but Bobby Darin, when he. 235 00:09:04,744 --> 00:09:07,513 I love that song. I love his interpretation of that. 236 00:09:07,513 --> 00:09:08,180 Totally great. 237 00:09:08,180 --> 00:09:12,518 And his last top ten hit went to number eight in like 68, 66, 67. 238 00:09:12,518 --> 00:09:16,956 And when I did it Off-Broadway or toured it, people say, 239 00:09:18,090 --> 00:09:19,158 I didn't know he sang. 240 00:09:19,158 --> 00:09:20,259 That Was Him was a great. 241 00:09:20,259 --> 00:09:22,094 Song that that he could be a chameleon. 242 00:09:22,094 --> 00:09:23,462 He could just change. 243 00:09:23,462 --> 00:09:27,266 And and he didn't read music, wrote 180 songs. 244 00:09:27,266 --> 00:09:28,167 He was one of 245 00:09:28,167 --> 00:09:31,537 I think he and George Harrison were one of the first to had synthesizers. 246 00:09:32,204 --> 00:09:34,273 Yeah. Synthesizer fiddles. 247 00:09:34,273 --> 00:09:37,443 We, actually do, Beatles song in the show, 248 00:09:37,443 --> 00:09:39,278 and it might be a George Harrison Beatles song. 249 00:09:39,278 --> 00:09:41,047 So, Joyce, you might be. Yeah. 250 00:09:41,047 --> 00:09:44,383 Hopefully my chops will impress with, my George Harrison. 251 00:09:44,417 --> 00:09:46,419 Just as much as you said that he didn't write. 252 00:09:46,419 --> 00:09:47,520 He didn't read music, 253 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,690 but neither did, you know, the Beatles didn't know how to read music. 254 00:09:50,856 --> 00:09:52,224 Elvis didn't know how to read music. 255 00:09:52,224 --> 00:09:53,726 Correct. And Elvis thing. 256 00:09:53,726 --> 00:09:54,193 Right? 257 00:09:54,193 --> 00:09:56,862 No, no, Bobby wrote the Beatles wrote a lot. 258 00:09:56,862 --> 00:09:59,899 And Phil Collins, it still to this day, doesn't know how to read music. 259 00:09:59,899 --> 00:10:02,602 Amazing. Yes. His own syncopation system that came up with him. 260 00:10:02,602 --> 00:10:04,103 I read and, I don't know, 261 00:10:04,103 --> 00:10:07,106 I was just with, rehearsing with my guitarist the other day. 262 00:10:07,273 --> 00:10:10,209 And I was like, how do you play? 263 00:10:10,209 --> 00:10:12,945 Not him, but like, Darren and some of the people were talking 264 00:10:12,945 --> 00:10:14,814 and you don't know where you're going next. 265 00:10:14,814 --> 00:10:17,817 It's like driving blind, but you're going to get there. 266 00:10:18,451 --> 00:10:20,720 You know, I can't understand because I read music. 267 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,323 I don't know if it's a positive or negative, but, you know. 268 00:10:24,790 --> 00:10:27,393 They feel. Like they hear it. 269 00:10:27,393 --> 00:10:29,996 Like here it is like a Keith Richards is out there. 270 00:10:29,996 --> 00:10:33,165 Does he is he reading music you think or just feeling. 271 00:10:33,165 --> 00:10:35,635 Yeah. I don't know if he reads. I mean, at that point it's in their head. 272 00:10:35,635 --> 00:10:38,537 They know where they're going. You know, Especially at this. Stage. 273 00:10:38,537 --> 00:10:40,406 They're at this stage satisfaction. 274 00:10:40,406 --> 00:10:41,741 They played a few times. 275 00:10:41,741 --> 00:10:42,375 I think, oh. 276 00:10:42,375 --> 00:10:44,276 I don't maybe a thousand. Or two. 277 00:10:44,276 --> 00:10:45,244 Yeah. 278 00:10:45,244 --> 00:10:46,812 Let's let's go back to your roots there. 279 00:10:46,812 --> 00:10:49,815 Jazz. Well, what did you do before. 280 00:10:50,082 --> 00:10:52,585 And then all of a sudden you decide you not want to sing. 281 00:10:52,585 --> 00:10:52,885 Yeah. 282 00:10:52,885 --> 00:10:55,321 I was singing something you always wanted to do. 283 00:10:55,321 --> 00:10:56,956 Or was that like a later decision. 284 00:10:56,956 --> 00:10:57,890 You know, 285 00:10:57,890 --> 00:11:01,560 you know as a kid I remember liking it and I said my mother studied voice. 286 00:11:01,560 --> 00:11:03,062 She was a trained opera singer. 287 00:11:03,062 --> 00:11:05,765 And you were talking about your voice. But she had polyps. 288 00:11:05,765 --> 00:11:09,301 They did throat surgery, annihilated her voice, could never sing again, 289 00:11:09,301 --> 00:11:11,037 barely could speak. But, 290 00:11:12,104 --> 00:11:12,972 I guess I heard it. 291 00:11:12,972 --> 00:11:15,975 There was music in the house, and, 292 00:11:16,075 --> 00:11:17,276 I played sports for years. 293 00:11:17,276 --> 00:11:20,913 I got cut from a team, and I said I needed something to do. 294 00:11:21,447 --> 00:11:22,715 And I remember going home. 295 00:11:22,715 --> 00:11:24,517 I said my, you know, I was like a junior. 296 00:11:24,517 --> 00:11:25,217 Senior in high school. 297 00:11:25,217 --> 00:11:27,687 I said, they're doing a musical. 298 00:11:27,687 --> 00:11:31,290 And I went to an all guys, prep school, Catholic school. 299 00:11:31,290 --> 00:11:33,492 And she said, oh, you know, always encouraging. That's good. 300 00:11:33,492 --> 00:11:36,362 You should get involved. You meet girls and blah, blah, blah, blah. 301 00:11:36,362 --> 00:11:40,299 And I did, and I tried out and I had no idea what I was doing. 302 00:11:40,299 --> 00:11:42,635 I obviously and I sang, they said, you got to dance. 303 00:11:42,635 --> 00:11:44,203 And sometimes 304 00:11:44,203 --> 00:11:47,707 sometimes being stupid is good because I was totally stupid and I did it 305 00:11:47,973 --> 00:11:48,541 and I went home. 306 00:11:48,541 --> 00:11:50,876 I said, man, you know, I think I got one of the leads. 307 00:11:50,876 --> 00:11:52,645 And my mother said, oh, that's great. 308 00:11:52,645 --> 00:11:54,580 She said, when I went opening night, I was shaking. 309 00:11:54,580 --> 00:11:57,016 Said, this kid never sang, never dance. 310 00:11:57,016 --> 00:11:58,517 And it was the boyfriend. 311 00:11:58,517 --> 00:11:59,351 The play. 312 00:11:59,351 --> 00:12:02,955 And I played Bobby Van Use and I had a tango and I had to do 313 00:12:02,955 --> 00:12:05,391 all these dances and singing, and it just bit me. 314 00:12:05,391 --> 00:12:07,493 And I fell in love with it. 315 00:12:07,493 --> 00:12:10,429 And, I didn't stop from there. 316 00:12:10,429 --> 00:12:15,601 I just said, somehow I'm going to work in this business casting, producing, on 317 00:12:15,601 --> 00:12:18,671 stage, music, directing churches, wherever music 318 00:12:18,671 --> 00:12:21,707 is and actors and performing is. 319 00:12:21,907 --> 00:12:23,209 That's where I want to be. 320 00:12:23,209 --> 00:12:26,212 And I had to find a way to do it, and I did it. 321 00:12:26,212 --> 00:12:29,582 And there's a lot of rejection and the business, as. 322 00:12:29,582 --> 00:12:33,586 We said, we were talking off camera more, more than not more, you know, how. 323 00:12:33,619 --> 00:12:34,286 Do you handle that? 324 00:12:34,286 --> 00:12:36,155 Because so many people watching right now 325 00:12:36,155 --> 00:12:38,324 or always curious to hear the success stories, 326 00:12:38,324 --> 00:12:41,260 but they want to know how you overcame adversity. 327 00:12:41,260 --> 00:12:44,430 You just, you know, you have to just take it very lightly. 328 00:12:44,430 --> 00:12:47,466 Some people, as a casting director and working with actors, 329 00:12:47,666 --> 00:12:50,669 you know, you have to say, this is a minute in your life 330 00:12:50,703 --> 00:12:53,305 and this isn't any. 331 00:12:53,305 --> 00:12:55,441 Do an audition, do it as best as you can and move on. 332 00:12:55,441 --> 00:12:57,877 Go to the next one, go to the it's a numbers game. 333 00:12:57,877 --> 00:13:00,946 You know if you're going to if you're going to audition 334 00:13:00,946 --> 00:13:04,083 once a month and hoping for a job, that's tough. 335 00:13:04,083 --> 00:13:05,551 You got to rehearse 100. 336 00:13:05,551 --> 00:13:07,486 You have to audition 100 times a month. 337 00:13:07,486 --> 00:13:10,089 And if you work off a 10% now, you get ten jobs. 338 00:13:10,089 --> 00:13:12,691 If you audition once a month, you know, those numbers don't work. 339 00:13:12,691 --> 00:13:13,559 So it's a numbers game. 340 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,395 You just so with me, I get rejected, go to the next call, 341 00:13:16,395 --> 00:13:17,596 go to the next theater, go to the next. 342 00:13:17,596 --> 00:13:19,532 Because you just you can't 343 00:13:19,532 --> 00:13:22,968 you can't say, oh boy, John hurt my feelings of Joyce said this to me. 344 00:13:22,968 --> 00:13:27,273 You know, you got to get Khaleesi and not rude, but move on. 345 00:13:27,339 --> 00:13:27,640 Yeah. 346 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,210 Hey, for some reason, I'm not supposed to be there in the in this world right now. 347 00:13:32,378 --> 00:13:33,179 That's not supposed. To. 348 00:13:33,179 --> 00:13:34,146 Joyce. That's a great point. 349 00:13:34,146 --> 00:13:36,248 Because if it was meant for you, I'd be there. 350 00:13:36,248 --> 00:13:38,050 It wasn't meant for you, was meant for someone else. 351 00:13:38,050 --> 00:13:40,586 So it blessed them. And that guy, you better come your way. 352 00:13:40,586 --> 00:13:42,054 And that's how I think of it now. 353 00:13:42,054 --> 00:13:44,723 It wasn't meant for me to be at that place at that time. 354 00:13:44,723 --> 00:13:46,358 So something else will come along. 355 00:13:46,358 --> 00:13:51,230 And you also have the positivity and the tenacity to keep to keep doing. 356 00:13:51,230 --> 00:13:52,398 Tenacity is the word. 357 00:13:52,398 --> 00:13:53,833 Yeah, I could use another word, but. 358 00:13:53,833 --> 00:13:55,901 Once I got past then I just. 359 00:13:55,901 --> 00:13:57,436 We've got to try to keep it clean here. A you. 360 00:13:57,436 --> 00:13:58,437 Know that when you see. 361 00:13:58,437 --> 00:14:01,440 Me May 1st, May 18th, I might use that word. 362 00:14:02,274 --> 00:14:03,108 I can't wait, but yes. 363 00:14:03,108 --> 00:14:05,411 No, you have to have a little bit of that. You do? 364 00:14:05,411 --> 00:14:06,412 Yes you. Do. 365 00:14:06,412 --> 00:14:09,982 And it just, you know, you have to know you're doing your best work. 366 00:14:10,115 --> 00:14:11,684 You know, whether you're on stage, 367 00:14:11,684 --> 00:14:15,421 you're you're you're a mechanic, you're an electrician, you're a truck driver. 368 00:14:15,621 --> 00:14:16,388 Do your best. 369 00:14:16,388 --> 00:14:20,526 And what's going to come back to you in the world, it'll come back to you, 370 00:14:20,526 --> 00:14:20,993 you know? 371 00:14:20,993 --> 00:14:25,531 And I'm, you know, my joy is what I do get is, 372 00:14:26,632 --> 00:14:27,633 making people happy. 373 00:14:27,633 --> 00:14:31,604 I mean, when you see, as a performer, the faces of people, 374 00:14:31,971 --> 00:14:34,106 Pavarotti said, it's oxygen for us. 375 00:14:34,106 --> 00:14:38,010 And it is totally, you know, when you just see those smiles or someone 376 00:14:38,310 --> 00:14:42,014 meet you backstage or at a restaurant after, say, you sang or you did 377 00:14:42,014 --> 00:14:44,516 or you told that story. And I remember my mother. 378 00:14:44,516 --> 00:14:46,952 I got a great story. I'm playing Long Wharf Theater. 379 00:14:46,952 --> 00:14:50,990 This is the original Off-Broadway show, and we're playing there for a week. And, 380 00:14:52,157 --> 00:14:54,126 I had advertisements 381 00:14:54,126 --> 00:14:57,129 from when Derek, Bobby, Darren played the arena, 382 00:14:57,897 --> 00:14:59,231 New Haven Arena, New Haven Arena. 383 00:14:59,231 --> 00:15:02,234 Oh, and the tickets were $3. 384 00:15:02,701 --> 00:15:06,405 But get this, Joyce, if you didn't have enough money, 385 00:15:06,438 --> 00:15:09,008 you could go to the rehearsal for a dollar. Really? 386 00:15:09,008 --> 00:15:10,910 I didn't know they did that. They did that? Yes. 387 00:15:11,911 --> 00:15:14,747 If you give me a dollar, you can come to my rehearsal next week. 388 00:15:14,747 --> 00:15:16,282 Joyce, 389 00:15:16,282 --> 00:15:18,684 You know what's my first dress? 390 00:15:18,684 --> 00:15:18,984 Just my. 391 00:15:18,984 --> 00:15:21,987 You know, all of that $0.50 each. 392 00:15:22,922 --> 00:15:24,723 And so you won't believe this. 393 00:15:24,723 --> 00:15:25,658 It's after the show. 394 00:15:25,658 --> 00:15:28,494 Two women come backstage 395 00:15:28,494 --> 00:15:31,463 crying, and they said 396 00:15:31,463 --> 00:15:32,564 we couldn't. 397 00:15:32,564 --> 00:15:34,433 My parents couldn't afford to see him. 398 00:15:34,433 --> 00:15:38,070 And we they gave us a dollar to see the show, to see his rehearsal. 399 00:15:39,038 --> 00:15:42,675 And you just you brought us back to 1960. 400 00:15:42,675 --> 00:15:44,176 And that it was worth. 401 00:15:44,176 --> 00:15:48,647 Oh, yeah, everything you could imagine to see their eyes and light up. 402 00:15:48,647 --> 00:15:52,051 And you made somebody's day or night or week or whatever. 403 00:15:52,051 --> 00:15:56,755 And from the performers point of view there, there is nothing better than that. 404 00:15:56,755 --> 00:15:58,657 I know you could have gone home at that point, 405 00:15:58,657 --> 00:16:00,559 was that you could have gone home at that point. 406 00:16:00,559 --> 00:16:01,760 It was the end of the show. I did. 407 00:16:04,496 --> 00:16:05,764 But thanks, Joy, thanks. 408 00:16:05,764 --> 00:16:07,967 But for sure. But you're out there on the stage 409 00:16:07,967 --> 00:16:10,102 and you're singing Can't Take My Eyes Off of You. 410 00:16:10,102 --> 00:16:13,138 All of a sudden people are out there and they're going back to 1967. 411 00:16:13,138 --> 00:16:15,140 Yeah. What they were doing at that time, who. 412 00:16:15,140 --> 00:16:16,141 You were with, who you were. 413 00:16:16,141 --> 00:16:16,976 With. Yeah. 414 00:16:16,976 --> 00:16:19,745 And you're hearing and plus the music you're doing, quite frankly. 415 00:16:19,745 --> 00:16:22,381 Now some people might think, oh, it's older music, 416 00:16:22,381 --> 00:16:25,150 but everything oldies do again do a whole new generation. 417 00:16:25,150 --> 00:16:28,721 So these 18, 19, 20 year olds are loving a lot of these classics 418 00:16:28,721 --> 00:16:30,889 as much as their parents and grandparents did. Right. 419 00:16:30,889 --> 00:16:31,557 It's timeless. 420 00:16:31,557 --> 00:16:34,360 A classic is a classic for a reason, right? 421 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,096 Can't take my eyes off you now. Jersey boys coming in and the film. 422 00:16:37,096 --> 00:16:39,932 So a younger generation knows that song. 423 00:16:39,932 --> 00:16:40,599 And, you know, 424 00:16:41,667 --> 00:16:43,002 we do a lot of Neil Diamond stuff. 425 00:16:43,002 --> 00:16:46,005 I was talking to you a little bit about the monkeys. 426 00:16:46,238 --> 00:16:47,973 He wrote one of the songs. 427 00:16:47,973 --> 00:16:49,842 I'm a believer. I'm. 428 00:16:49,842 --> 00:16:51,677 I'm glad I was trying to keep that a secret. Just. 429 00:16:51,677 --> 00:16:53,645 No, John. No, no, they know what I'm saying. 430 00:16:53,645 --> 00:16:55,280 Bobby Darin wrote. 431 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,750 Are you saying Bobby Darin wrote, I'm a. 432 00:16:57,750 --> 00:16:59,918 Diamond, Neil. Diamond, I'm a. Believer for the. Money. 433 00:16:59,918 --> 00:17:01,687 We actually do a couple of more of his songs, 434 00:17:01,687 --> 00:17:03,389 but we do some of his writing because we talk a lot. 435 00:17:03,389 --> 00:17:04,723 In The Legend of the 60s. 436 00:17:04,723 --> 00:17:07,526 We talk a lot about the Brill Building. Yes, the Brill Building. 437 00:17:07,526 --> 00:17:08,360 Carole King. 438 00:17:08,360 --> 00:17:08,861 Yeah, that's right, 439 00:17:08,861 --> 00:17:12,664 Carole King, Neil Diamond, Neil Sedaka, Bobby Darin, Sonny Bono. 440 00:17:12,965 --> 00:17:15,901 So we this is where they went into a cubicle. 441 00:17:15,901 --> 00:17:17,069 They had a small piano. 442 00:17:17,069 --> 00:17:20,072 They maybe had a vocalist come in and they would say, 443 00:17:20,239 --> 00:17:23,242 we could hear the person playing a song next door and all what? 444 00:17:23,242 --> 00:17:26,412 You're taking their chords and you're you're trying to write your own songs. 445 00:17:26,412 --> 00:17:29,948 So we talk a lot about the Brill Building because we focus a lot 446 00:17:29,982 --> 00:17:33,419 on those artists of the 60s that wrote there. 447 00:17:33,419 --> 00:17:35,287 So it's it's. Just so interesting. 448 00:17:35,287 --> 00:17:37,322 Building. It's the Burrell Building. 449 00:17:37,322 --> 00:17:38,424 B right. 450 00:17:38,424 --> 00:17:40,325 PLL have the Brill Building building. 451 00:17:40,325 --> 00:17:42,094 Are you a joy to think about that area? 452 00:17:42,094 --> 00:17:45,097 There were more hit songs from that area, high school 453 00:17:45,264 --> 00:17:48,267 people that went to that high school like Carole King and Paul Simon. 454 00:17:48,333 --> 00:17:48,467 Right. 455 00:17:48,467 --> 00:17:51,970 They went to the same school than any other area in the USA. 456 00:17:51,970 --> 00:17:54,173 That I think it started from Tin Pan Alley. 457 00:17:54,173 --> 00:17:58,844 Yes, but the 60s, it was huge because in that building 458 00:17:58,877 --> 00:18:02,281 we're not only songwriters were publishers, record label. 459 00:18:02,281 --> 00:18:03,916 So they said you never had to leave the building. 460 00:18:03,916 --> 00:18:06,518 You could write a song, find a publisher, move it to a record. 461 00:18:06,518 --> 00:18:08,387 There's a one stop, right? Do a demo. 462 00:18:08,387 --> 00:18:10,155 And it was it was amazing. 463 00:18:10,155 --> 00:18:14,126 So, I mean, that doesn't exist anymore, but I love that, 464 00:18:14,693 --> 00:18:17,930 like talking about playing legacy and playing nightclubs, 465 00:18:17,930 --> 00:18:18,997 which we could talk about 466 00:18:18,997 --> 00:18:22,601 where I started the intimate C of being this close to people. 467 00:18:23,135 --> 00:18:24,837 And I look right in their eyes. 468 00:18:24,837 --> 00:18:27,940 And I mean, we do old school jokes. 469 00:18:27,940 --> 00:18:28,974 I mean, I bring them. 470 00:18:28,974 --> 00:18:29,575 There you are. 471 00:18:29,575 --> 00:18:33,112 Now, as I said, the band is on stage, the audience is on stage. 472 00:18:33,112 --> 00:18:36,115 They are part you have to get dragged into it. 473 00:18:36,215 --> 00:18:40,552 And my beginnings, which I talk about, started as nightclub. 474 00:18:40,552 --> 00:18:43,222 I was young and there were still a few left. 475 00:18:43,222 --> 00:18:46,525 So I would go every Saturday night and sing with the house band. 476 00:18:46,525 --> 00:18:48,927 It was a scene out of Goodfellas. Yes, yes. 477 00:18:48,927 --> 00:18:50,896 It was a scene because it was. It was. 478 00:18:50,896 --> 00:18:54,032 They'd come at 7:00 and they start with their cocktails 479 00:18:54,032 --> 00:18:56,034 and they go to dinner, and there was a house band. 480 00:18:56,034 --> 00:18:58,770 And the first, the first, first time I did it, 481 00:18:59,705 --> 00:19:02,508 I won't mention the club, but, I was there. 482 00:19:02,508 --> 00:19:06,778 I had my three songs ready, and, the owner said, well, the band's 483 00:19:06,778 --> 00:19:09,848 over there on break, and I went up and the three guys are very friendly. 484 00:19:09,848 --> 00:19:12,417 I they said, I still remember I was singing on a Clear Day. 485 00:19:12,417 --> 00:19:14,253 Oh, you could see forever. 486 00:19:14,253 --> 00:19:16,321 You could see forever. I was doing Delilah. 487 00:19:16,321 --> 00:19:18,690 Yeah. And, Marla ephemera. 488 00:19:18,690 --> 00:19:20,592 Jimmy speaking at Jimmy Roselli, right? 489 00:19:20,592 --> 00:19:22,561 Yeah. And I and they looked and I said, great. 490 00:19:22,561 --> 00:19:25,063 What key? And these keys and what it. 491 00:19:25,063 --> 00:19:25,831 And they're eating. 492 00:19:25,831 --> 00:19:28,800 They're very, you know, they're looking they're very intent. 493 00:19:29,034 --> 00:19:30,302 I said, so when do we rehearse? 494 00:19:30,302 --> 00:19:32,571 He said, I don't know. We'll just call you on. 495 00:19:32,571 --> 00:19:34,473 I thought Joe Frazier punched me in the jaws. 496 00:19:34,473 --> 00:19:36,742 Like you're just going to call me on. 497 00:19:36,742 --> 00:19:38,677 I never did that and that. 498 00:19:38,677 --> 00:19:42,915 And then there's 400 people, here's jazz coming in, and I. 499 00:19:43,382 --> 00:19:47,719 My whole body was convulsed, saying like, oh, my God, I can't find a way. 500 00:19:47,719 --> 00:19:48,820 To get it done, don't. You? 501 00:19:48,820 --> 00:19:52,658 You know, and so people look at you now and say, why are so calm out there so, 502 00:19:52,658 --> 00:19:56,929 well, you do that for years and not knowing what the band's going to play, 503 00:19:57,162 --> 00:20:00,699 what the people are going to react to, you get very good at it quick 504 00:20:00,699 --> 00:20:02,234 or at least comfortable. I should say good. 505 00:20:02,234 --> 00:20:04,770 I don't wanna be pompous, but you get comfortable, you. 506 00:20:04,770 --> 00:20:05,871 Learn to pivot. 507 00:20:05,871 --> 00:20:07,005 You learn. 508 00:20:07,005 --> 00:20:08,340 Great training. 509 00:20:08,340 --> 00:20:10,342 It was my college. I say that on the show. 510 00:20:10,342 --> 00:20:14,846 It was my performing that I'm singing on a clear day. 511 00:20:14,846 --> 00:20:16,081 Joyce and a woman's. 512 00:20:16,081 --> 00:20:17,316 This close to you? 513 00:20:17,316 --> 00:20:18,884 Probably a few context, because I can't. 514 00:20:18,884 --> 00:20:20,285 Hear you and I like. 515 00:20:20,285 --> 00:20:22,221 I can't hear me, right? Right. 516 00:20:22,221 --> 00:20:25,224 The number of the vocal, the mic was going down, my couldn't. 517 00:20:25,557 --> 00:20:26,558 Be further down my throat. 518 00:20:26,558 --> 00:20:28,126 I was like, I gotta get out of here. 519 00:20:28,126 --> 00:20:30,329 Wow. And I kept going back. It was like a drug. 520 00:20:30,329 --> 00:20:31,263 I kept going back. 521 00:20:31,263 --> 00:20:32,064 But I'll do it more. 522 00:20:32,064 --> 00:20:34,733 I'll do it more until I, you know, just loved it. 523 00:20:34,733 --> 00:20:36,001 Now that's how I started. 524 00:20:36,001 --> 00:20:37,703 And your performances, especially in the early days. 525 00:20:37,703 --> 00:20:39,972 Did you ever have people that were heckling? 526 00:20:39,972 --> 00:20:41,006 Oh, they do that. 527 00:20:41,006 --> 00:20:41,640 They just did it. 528 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:42,574 The last show I did. 529 00:20:42,574 --> 00:20:44,343 Oh no, oh no. 530 00:20:44,343 --> 00:20:45,143 Real love it. 531 00:20:45,143 --> 00:20:46,945 You you feed off that? 532 00:20:46,945 --> 00:20:48,347 Oh I encourage. It. 533 00:20:48,347 --> 00:20:51,350 Oh you response not from U2. No. 534 00:20:51,516 --> 00:20:53,018 Yeah. Something like oh. 535 00:20:54,753 --> 00:20:56,121 That Joyce was so nice. 536 00:20:56,121 --> 00:20:59,124 You know, that's her. Throw her out. 537 00:20:59,358 --> 00:21:01,426 Know you stop and address it. Oh, yeah. 538 00:21:01,426 --> 00:21:02,294 Yeah. We had. 539 00:21:02,294 --> 00:21:03,762 What do you what do you say? 540 00:21:03,762 --> 00:21:06,431 Just, you. Know, razzing back, you know? Okay, just. 541 00:21:06,431 --> 00:21:08,467 I could go into my Don Rickles routine. 542 00:21:08,467 --> 00:21:12,337 Oh, like, oh, you're doing this 30, 40, you know, 35 years. 543 00:21:12,337 --> 00:21:15,040 You know, you get to learn and they think you're going to catch you sick. 544 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,843 You're not you're not going to catch me with a line or whatever. 545 00:21:17,843 --> 00:21:19,578 You know. So it's fun. 546 00:21:19,578 --> 00:21:21,413 And then the audience gets into it. 547 00:21:21,413 --> 00:21:24,416 Especially if I had a woman 548 00:21:24,650 --> 00:21:27,019 that's I. So but go 549 00:21:27,019 --> 00:21:30,022 shows like the title of a song. 550 00:21:30,389 --> 00:21:30,789 I had this. 551 00:21:30,789 --> 00:21:33,959 Woman in the front row and, last show we did, 552 00:21:33,959 --> 00:21:36,962 and she was people 553 00:21:36,995 --> 00:21:40,465 five people contacted me, said she she was shill. 554 00:21:40,465 --> 00:21:40,799 Right? 555 00:21:40,799 --> 00:21:45,337 You set her up there, she threw more lines and we did more back and back. 556 00:21:45,337 --> 00:21:48,340 Audience was hysterical. 557 00:21:48,707 --> 00:21:50,208 I should pay her to be there. 558 00:21:50,208 --> 00:21:52,210 She was that funny and good. Yeah. 559 00:21:52,210 --> 00:21:54,880 And then everybody tells. Everybody said, well, she's joining in. 560 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,915 Let me say another woman popped in. 561 00:21:56,915 --> 00:22:00,252 I was drinking my little, Tito's on stage to relax, too. 562 00:22:00,252 --> 00:22:01,787 How about the lemon cello? 563 00:22:01,787 --> 00:22:03,655 So I said, all right, next time. I bring, let me chill. 564 00:22:03,655 --> 00:22:04,556 So it just. 565 00:22:04,556 --> 00:22:06,725 Yeah, I love it, I love it, and then. Yeah. 566 00:22:06,725 --> 00:22:07,859 What's that? It's like a big party. 567 00:22:07,859 --> 00:22:11,663 It's got to be, you know, it's got to be, you know, and they just, 568 00:22:12,731 --> 00:22:14,066 you know, 569 00:22:14,066 --> 00:22:17,169 I, I did, I did we were talking about my casting work 570 00:22:17,169 --> 00:22:20,172 and I did something for Robin Leach years ago and 571 00:22:20,639 --> 00:22:23,508 one of his shows, I'm in New York and I'm 60th. 572 00:22:23,508 --> 00:22:25,277 So Goodfellas had come up. 573 00:22:25,277 --> 00:22:25,844 I walk up, 574 00:22:25,844 --> 00:22:29,481 he's 60, then I'm standing on East and I'm looking at the buildings and I'm like, 575 00:22:29,815 --> 00:22:30,682 where was the cop? 576 00:22:30,682 --> 00:22:33,018 I know I'm close. So there's a doorman to the left of me. 577 00:22:33,018 --> 00:22:35,754 I said, excuse me, you know, you tell me where the cop is. 578 00:22:35,754 --> 00:22:36,955 He goes, you're staring at it. 579 00:22:36,955 --> 00:22:39,958 And I'm like, this is where Ray Liotta parked his car. 580 00:22:40,058 --> 00:22:40,492 Goodfellas. 581 00:22:40,492 --> 00:22:42,461 I was there, and I'm Stan. 582 00:22:42,461 --> 00:22:45,197 I'm looking at, you know, the Copa. 583 00:22:45,197 --> 00:22:46,998 And I would talk so much about it 584 00:22:46,998 --> 00:22:51,203 with Steve Blount or regarding Bobby Darin and and everybody who played there. 585 00:22:51,203 --> 00:22:53,071 And it was only 700 seats. 586 00:22:53,071 --> 00:22:55,640 It was two levels, 303, 50 and 350. 587 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,010 And and you know, they had a staging. 588 00:22:59,010 --> 00:23:00,812 But as people kept coming in in Goodfellas 589 00:23:00,812 --> 00:23:03,582 and they brought the table, the staging went further, less and less. 590 00:23:03,582 --> 00:23:07,219 And when you were working on a four by eight, there was nothing to work. 591 00:23:07,352 --> 00:23:10,422 You know, it was just and just the intensity 592 00:23:10,422 --> 00:23:13,425 and how close and that's that's what I feed off of that. 593 00:23:13,558 --> 00:23:16,561 And that's where legacy is just just great. 594 00:23:16,561 --> 00:23:18,964 It's just great. It's perf. It is. Yeah. Perfect. 595 00:23:18,964 --> 00:23:20,465 One of the greatest places to see a show. 596 00:23:20,465 --> 00:23:23,168 Because again, you feel like it's one big living room. That's correct. 597 00:23:23,168 --> 00:23:24,302 And I love that approach. 598 00:23:24,302 --> 00:23:26,004 Even being in the entertainment business 599 00:23:26,004 --> 00:23:27,973 myself, you know, with the deejay business, I love 600 00:23:27,973 --> 00:23:30,509 when people are right there with you and you can interact with them. 601 00:23:30,509 --> 00:23:32,277 Absolutely. I think this you absolutely. 602 00:23:32,277 --> 00:23:35,580 Similar to that would have been a Long Wharf theater, which I. Yes. 603 00:23:35,580 --> 00:23:36,181 Oh yeah. 604 00:23:36,181 --> 00:23:37,849 And the old Oakdale with the. 605 00:23:37,849 --> 00:23:39,751 With the in. The round. Yeah. 606 00:23:39,751 --> 00:23:42,454 That was the Oakdale was and that was for 3000 seats. 607 00:23:42,454 --> 00:23:43,722 It was still intimate. 608 00:23:43,722 --> 00:23:44,122 Yeah. 609 00:23:44,122 --> 00:23:45,891 That that was what we were talking about 610 00:23:45,891 --> 00:23:49,561 show I might be doing with in Connecticut with Roselli, Jimmy Roselli. 611 00:23:49,561 --> 00:23:53,365 And I remember I must have seen him three, three times there and Sergio 612 00:23:53,365 --> 00:23:57,836 Franchi and Pat Cooper and just and that such great style. 613 00:23:57,869 --> 00:23:59,905 Yes. Entertainment that, you know, 614 00:24:00,906 --> 00:24:01,840 I talk about this 615 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,343 in legends, but you look at like a Sinatra, 616 00:24:05,977 --> 00:24:09,448 a Jerry Lewis or a Dean Martin, and there's celebrities out there today 617 00:24:09,448 --> 00:24:10,382 and they're wonderful. 618 00:24:10,382 --> 00:24:15,120 But they were masters of recording concerts, TV, film. 619 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:19,891 When you think back, they were most people don't do it in those genres today. 620 00:24:19,891 --> 00:24:20,959 They might be a recording artist 621 00:24:20,959 --> 00:24:23,428 or maybe a film artist, but they're not cutting across. 622 00:24:23,428 --> 00:24:29,367 I mean, Dean Martin had the biggest ratings show on TV for 12 or 14 years. 623 00:24:29,468 --> 00:24:31,236 Sinatra had Reprise records. 624 00:24:31,236 --> 00:24:33,638 He had consummate concerts, never stopped for. 625 00:24:33,638 --> 00:24:34,473 Like, a Bing Crosby. 626 00:24:34,473 --> 00:24:36,374 All the stuff he did. Oh, he was good, you know? 627 00:24:36,374 --> 00:24:37,709 And, was you. 628 00:24:37,709 --> 00:24:39,511 Owned a bunch of baseball. Teams. Tina. Yeah. 629 00:24:39,511 --> 00:24:41,213 And he owned part. You didn't know Tropicana? 630 00:24:41,213 --> 00:24:43,048 Yeah, he was an owner in orange juice. 631 00:24:43,048 --> 00:24:45,584 He was extraordinarily. I really impressed you, Joyce. 632 00:24:45,584 --> 00:24:47,285 Yeah. You know. 633 00:24:47,285 --> 00:24:49,120 You were talking about the Tropicana choice. 634 00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:50,922 It's quick. Right? Yes. 635 00:24:51,990 --> 00:24:53,792 Isn't there a club cover Tropicana. 636 00:24:53,792 --> 00:24:55,527 For that quarterly? 637 00:24:55,527 --> 00:24:58,096 What did that coffee 638 00:24:58,096 --> 00:24:59,698 Bailey shot, I didn't know. 639 00:24:59,698 --> 00:25:01,766 Yeah, right. 640 00:25:01,766 --> 00:25:03,134 Oh, yeah. That's me. 641 00:25:03,134 --> 00:25:06,538 I get some brandy and, Oh, man. 642 00:25:06,538 --> 00:25:09,040 Yeah. But that's, you know, that's. 643 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,477 You know, I'm probably too young for my age of the music I love. 644 00:25:12,477 --> 00:25:14,479 They should probably be 110, but. 645 00:25:14,479 --> 00:25:17,015 I think, God, you're bringing that music back. 646 00:25:17,015 --> 00:25:18,550 Yeah, you know that. Keep it alive. 647 00:25:18,550 --> 00:25:22,888 And I think there are a lot of people out there that enjoy it to hear this. 648 00:25:23,121 --> 00:25:23,655 Especially. 649 00:25:23,655 --> 00:25:26,858 Legends of the 60s, where there's a variety of of artists, 650 00:25:26,858 --> 00:25:30,762 as I said, Neil Diamond, Neil Sedaka, Bobby Darin, 651 00:25:30,762 --> 00:25:34,866 Sinatra, Dean Martin, I mean, the list is the monkeys on and on. 652 00:25:34,866 --> 00:25:37,335 Oh, we do love and spoonful for Wayne Newton. 653 00:25:37,335 --> 00:25:40,539 So it's just there's something for everyone. 654 00:25:40,672 --> 00:25:45,176 And I and I will say, if I do connect the stories, I bring it 655 00:25:45,710 --> 00:25:49,781 to, to full, you know, a full resolve of beginning to end. 656 00:25:50,148 --> 00:25:51,182 And I think people like. 657 00:25:51,182 --> 00:25:53,018 This kind of the glue that keeps it all together. Correct. 658 00:25:53,018 --> 00:25:56,187 I think the artists of today, the new artists, appreciate that. 659 00:25:56,187 --> 00:25:58,857 Also, I think they're going back. 660 00:25:58,857 --> 00:26:00,825 To do some of that. And checking it out. 661 00:26:00,825 --> 00:26:02,394 Now, I must say, these chairs are comfortable, 662 00:26:02,394 --> 00:26:04,930 but I feel like I'm on the dating game. Like I said, number two, 663 00:26:06,197 --> 00:26:07,265 I gotta tell you two, 664 00:26:07,265 --> 00:26:11,703 I think Joyce had given up here. Wow. 665 00:26:12,037 --> 00:26:13,438 I stuck with me. 666 00:26:13,438 --> 00:26:14,940 I don't know, I got gotta like the gentleman. 667 00:26:14,940 --> 00:26:17,809 I'm just trying. 668 00:26:17,809 --> 00:26:19,411 Bachelor number one. Yeah. 669 00:26:19,411 --> 00:26:21,146 Give me a question. I get to do not. 670 00:26:21,146 --> 00:26:22,981 Like talking too much. I'm probably telling you too much. 671 00:26:22,981 --> 00:26:25,550 I know, I think I think your audience is really enjoying it. 672 00:26:25,550 --> 00:26:28,920 Yes, he encompasses he like I'm talking to third person. 673 00:26:29,321 --> 00:26:30,956 But this is what's good, right? 674 00:26:30,956 --> 00:26:32,257 You do? I mean, thank you. 675 00:26:32,257 --> 00:26:32,991 That's what's good. 676 00:26:32,991 --> 00:26:35,994 You have infectious, beautiful energy. 677 00:26:36,027 --> 00:26:36,461 Thank you. 678 00:26:36,461 --> 00:26:39,431 And hopefully this comes out during our shows. 679 00:26:39,431 --> 00:26:40,332 So yes. 680 00:26:40,332 --> 00:26:42,634 I just love the whole idea of the storytelling, like you said, 681 00:26:42,634 --> 00:26:45,770 because I learned a long time ago that facts tell, stories sell. 682 00:26:46,404 --> 00:26:48,873 You know, people learn by stories, right? 683 00:26:48,873 --> 00:26:51,876 Yes, 100%. And as we wrap up here. Sure. 684 00:26:52,077 --> 00:26:53,645 Tell us about the show again. 685 00:26:53,645 --> 00:26:54,679 And when it's happening. 686 00:26:54,679 --> 00:26:58,650 We, we open up at Legacy Theater in Branford, Connecticut 687 00:26:58,650 --> 00:27:01,086 on, Thursday, May 1st. 688 00:27:01,086 --> 00:27:04,422 We run to May 18th, 15 performances. 689 00:27:04,422 --> 00:27:08,326 So it's Thursday through Sunday for three weeks. 690 00:27:08,860 --> 00:27:11,830 12 piece band, two backup singers. 691 00:27:11,830 --> 00:27:14,366 We are so thrilled. 692 00:27:14,366 --> 00:27:15,700 I'm historic. 693 00:27:15,700 --> 00:27:20,839 Just to go back there for my third time and just knock their socks off. 694 00:27:21,406 --> 00:27:22,440 But audiences are going to. 695 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,043 Enjoy just your energy level alone has sold this year. 696 00:27:25,043 --> 00:27:27,912 My gosh. You're. Watching it right now and you love that music. 697 00:27:27,912 --> 00:27:31,116 This is just an added bonus with, you know, Chaz up on the stage. 698 00:27:31,116 --> 00:27:33,184 Just thank you and to see you guys again. 699 00:27:33,184 --> 00:27:35,487 This is like so great to see you. 700 00:27:35,487 --> 00:27:38,223 Thank you. It's so great. Thank you for being on our show. 701 00:27:38,223 --> 00:27:40,825 This was totally a pleasure. I hope you invite me back. 702 00:27:40,825 --> 00:27:43,762 Oh we're going to go. Come back any time, any time. 703 00:27:44,729 --> 00:27:47,732 But thanks so much for stopping by. 704 00:27:48,299 --> 00:27:51,002 Thank you so much for tuning in to What's Good You to check us out. 705 00:27:51,002 --> 00:27:54,072 Each and every week we have new episodes, 30 minute episodes each and every week. 706 00:27:54,072 --> 00:27:55,040 Tell a friend about us. 707 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,143 And by the way, subscribe for free on YouTube. 708 00:27:58,143 --> 00:28:00,578 Just go to YouTube and type in What's good with Johnny Joyce. 709 00:28:00,578 --> 00:28:03,348 Tell a friend about us who needs something positive and upbeat. 710 00:28:03,348 --> 00:28:05,850 I think people are thirsting and hungry for good. Absolutely. 711 00:28:05,850 --> 00:28:06,351 And remember 712 00:28:06,351 --> 00:28:09,354 to find the what's good in your life, because there's always something good 713 00:28:09,354 --> 00:28:10,121 in each day. 714 00:28:10,121 --> 00:28:10,522 That's right. 715 00:28:10,522 --> 00:28:12,991 And the more you look for that, the more you're going to see it. 716 00:28:12,991 --> 00:28:15,226 Gratitude. Thanks. Till next time. 717 00:28:15,226 --> 00:28:15,894 Bye for now.