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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Hey, everyone, thank you and for tuning in

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to the Bible Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Well well, well, Chris, it's another Bible Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast, and it's just another manic Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>What a manic Monday? Wow? Is that what you have?

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<v Speaker 2>Is manic Monday?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know it was Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Funday?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Okay, you know what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>It is the song Sunday's Fundays.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you don't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just another manic Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that.

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<v Speaker 1>Wish it was Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it's in the eighties.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, welcome to the Bible Guys. It is Monday, and

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<v Speaker 1>we are Jeff and Chris and we are here to

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<v Speaker 1>bring you the finest uh Biblical.

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<v Speaker 2>Discussion, artisanally crafted.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get into that, we have a segment called

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<v Speaker 1>Guess the word.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess the word? Now, fun is We have done this

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<v Speaker 2>in a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a taboo type thing, I know. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you're watching on video Hopefully we're gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 1>put the words on the screen that I cannot say.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's my goal to go well.

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<v Speaker 2>That you may not say, you can say them. Oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you may, I.

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<v Speaker 1>May not say them. Sorry, May I have a napkin? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can have a napkin if you get it yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>So and so I'm gonna go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh give me one of those days it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go ahead and uh invite the audience to

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<v Speaker 1>try to beat you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so they're racing against Okay, it's a race then, Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>here you go.

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<v Speaker 1>The first word, Here we go. Ready, the spirit descended

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<v Speaker 1>like a dove. Dove, I don't think. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I blew it here. Yeah. I wasn't allowed to say

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<v Speaker 1>bird symbol, white olive brand or peace. Oh I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's say all a branch.

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<v Speaker 2>No brand Olive? The brand?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh the brand?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, the brand? Okay, excellent, Okay, good, we got it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't looked at these at also, I haven't thought

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<v Speaker 1>through them. And this is hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay, here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Ready, Yes, uh, this is brutal.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, here we go, ready, Okay, love and power.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, oh no, I got all to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Power, okay, love and power to the people? Man. Who

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<v Speaker 2>am I the type of person like a surfer dude?

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<v Speaker 2>Like it, like a like a in this hippies? Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and in the sixties okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Because actually it says seventies because they were sixties and seventies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wasn't a lot of the best hippies were

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<v Speaker 2>in the sixties.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes they were. And it says love TI die peace,

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<v Speaker 1>which I didn't say, peace and flower.

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<v Speaker 2>What did you say? You said I said power?

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<v Speaker 1>I said no, I said, uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Peace and power. No, you said what did you say?

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<v Speaker 2>Did I say something in power? Man to the people? Man?

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<v Speaker 1>Did I say one day?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know. I wasn't paying attention.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't either.

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<v Speaker 2>I was picking up on the attitude. Oh no, I

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<v Speaker 2>was picking up on thettude. Well, we'll find out.

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing the voice.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll find out I was trying to do the voice. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like cars, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember, Well, I feel like I feel like I should

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<v Speaker 2>get points regardless, yes, and then if you blew it,

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<v Speaker 2>then you should get points deducted from your total.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. A thousand, a thousand?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure? How many are we giving the fans for getting

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<v Speaker 2>it right before me?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh? Six?

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<v Speaker 2>Six? See the people know now you just exposed yourself

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<v Speaker 2>because on this one. Because I always give them like

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<v Speaker 2>ten thousand points or fifty thousand points, and you're giving

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<v Speaker 2>them six points.

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<v Speaker 1>You know why? My points mean way more points are meaningless.

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<v Speaker 2>You're more substantial.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know value my point platinum. You've got platinum quality points.

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<v Speaker 2>I see. Okay, yeah, here we go, we go?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready? Uh ge whiz? Okay? Are you ready?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>This? No? This?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>This note? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Those together make make accord a triad.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh together they it's a beautiful harmony. Yes, harmony.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I was allowed to say music, balance, blend or peaceful. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was. I was trying my best.

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<v Speaker 2>To do harmony. Yeah, very nice. Okay, Okay, fans beat

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<v Speaker 2>me on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh oh wow, Okay, here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Herbie was what kind of brand of Volkswagen?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, yes, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't allowed to say bus, hippie travel, road or van.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but we got a lot of hippie stuff today, right, Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>What the heck is that?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, we had hippie we had harmony, which is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a hippie thing than a volkswagon. Okay, doves

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<v Speaker 1>peace too. And then oh wait a minute, we're in

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<v Speaker 1>this series called God's Peace. This is what she's doing.

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<v Speaker 2>We're so clever. It only took us five minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, okay, and then finally here's the last one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, gee whiz.

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<v Speaker 1>When you decide to hold your ground, you could say

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<v Speaker 1>I am not going to budge, yes, move, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to also give in surrender it's another word

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<v Speaker 1>for that treaty agreements.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to surrender. I'm not going to concede.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to something your values. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to lower my values. I'm not going to.

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<v Speaker 1>When when something when something, when the integrity of something is.

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<v Speaker 2>Invaded, Boy, I don't know. This is a tough one.

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<v Speaker 2>The integrity is something is invaded.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to yeah, wow, okay, all right, when

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<v Speaker 3>when two people have been so hard, when two people

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<v Speaker 3>have different side I was allowed to say that, I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't say it.

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<v Speaker 1>And two people have different views opinions, sometimes they'll meet

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<v Speaker 1>in half way and that's called a yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh there you go. Man. That was hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was really hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would definitely say everybody got that before you do?

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<v Speaker 2>You think so everybody? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>It was it was I couldn't say agree or middle

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<v Speaker 1>or deal, negotiate or sides. Okay, that was hard and

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<v Speaker 1>you know it was probably a.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it's easier for compromisers than it is for somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who stands on principle.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I said, I said, stand your ground.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that's what I'm saying. So stand my ground

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<v Speaker 2>made total sense. I got that one. I'm just not

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<v Speaker 2>a compromiser. So yeah, yeah, I'm joking.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what you're saying. You're saying it's not in your purview.

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<v Speaker 2>It's difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>It is so far away for my thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I believe in win win solutions. Uh huh I do.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, well that was rough and that was super

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<v Speaker 1>what I got.

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<v Speaker 2>I got. I got four out of five. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and well I got the fifth one too. But it

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<v Speaker 2>took a while. Well, sure the fans got that one

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<v Speaker 2>before me.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that it took me so long.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they're incredible, Our fans are incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me describe something to you please. During that fifth one,

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<v Speaker 1>when I couldn't come up with the words, I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like my mind was going to million miles a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had no peace.

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<v Speaker 2>You had no peace. No, do you know what Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>said about peace? What he said that he would send

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<v Speaker 2>a comforter who will give you peace, what he will

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<v Speaker 2>guide you into.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that in the scripture today, Jeff, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is as a matter of fact, let's look at John

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<v Speaker 2>chapter fourteen. John chapter fourteen is one of your favorite chapters.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think we gave that a little bit of effort.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you. I think you intended to reference John fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I did at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, I couldn't say it. I go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>say it.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, I'm setting you up. I'm offering this. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So last week or actually, depending on when this airs,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be two weeks ago, you had mentioned a

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<v Speaker 1>scripture and you said, you know how Jesus says, in

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<v Speaker 1>my father's house, there's many mansaers, we're talking about heaven.

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<v Speaker 1>It was stuff the pasture week. Yes, And I said,

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<v Speaker 1>off the coff I said, yeah, John fifteen, but it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't Yes, John fourteen, that's correct, And so I heard myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard myself say, yeah, John fifteen. I thought to myself,

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<v Speaker 1>John fifteen, is vine in the branch, vine in the branch.

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<v Speaker 1>Not I go to prepare place for you, and then

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<v Speaker 1>i'm the way, and then peace I give to you all.

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<v Speaker 1>That's John fourteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well we're in. We're in John fourteen today. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Had I just said, it's somewhere around.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what I'm saying. I agreed with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you missed it too.

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<v Speaker 2>I missed it too. Actually I knew it was in

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<v Speaker 2>the general zone.

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<v Speaker 1>To be fair, I said, John fifteen, and you were

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<v Speaker 1>just going on.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't listen. I wasn't. I was. I listened to everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I interrupted.

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<v Speaker 2>I am always riveted by what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I interrupted you by John fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>And so, so you were in the general area, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>in the general area. And I appreciate the effort. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I appreciate how close you got.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty twenty one whatever it takes. Yeah, nope, it's mister mom.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Keaton, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was kind of like on horseshoes instead of

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<v Speaker 2>going instead of getting ring or you.

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<v Speaker 1>Went to think yeah, only date.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's okay, It's okay. So we're going to start

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<v Speaker 2>and doesn't recognize him. But you know him because he

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<v Speaker 2>lives with you now and later will be in you. Now. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I will not abandon you as orphans. I will come

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<v Speaker 2>to you soon. The world will no longer see me,

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<v Speaker 2>but you will see me. Since I live, you also

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<v Speaker 2>who accept my commandments and obey them are the ones

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<v Speaker 2>who love me. And because they love me, my Father

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<v Speaker 2>myself to each of them. And Judas not Judas is Scariot,

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<v Speaker 2>now while I am still with you. But when the

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<v Speaker 2>Father sends the Advocate as my representative, that is the

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<v Speaker 2>Holy Spirit, he will teach you everything and will remind

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<v Speaker 2>you of everything I've told you. I am leaving you

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<v Speaker 2>with a gift peace of mind and heart. And the

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<v Speaker 2>So do not be troubled or afraid. Remember what I

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<v Speaker 2>to you again. If you really loved me, you would

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<v Speaker 2>be happy that I'm going to the Father who is

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<v Speaker 2>greater than I am. I've told you these things before

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<v Speaker 2>they happen, so that when they do happen, you'll believe.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have much more time to talk to you

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<v Speaker 2>power over me. But I will do what the Father

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<v Speaker 2>I love the Father. Come, let's be going. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's there's a lot in there.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>So, so he says the Father is greater than I am,

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<v Speaker 1>is that because he's in his human state currently.

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<v Speaker 2>I think partly, yeah, I think so, yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's partly it. I also think, as you do, as

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<v Speaker 2>you've highlighted before, the will comes from the Father, and

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus does the will of the Father. Right, So there's

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<v Speaker 2>a submission from Jesus towards the Father.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. That's really good. That's really good. Yeah. The nature,

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<v Speaker 1>the nature of the Trinity of God, it's it's so

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<v Speaker 1>hard to understand their relational dynamic and their roles together.

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<v Speaker 1>The concept even of three and one the triune God

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<v Speaker 1>is is just a mind blowing concept. And yet it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty clear in the scriptures that that's exactly who

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus believed in the Trinity clearly, clearly, right. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>I read that whole passage there was because of that,

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<v Speaker 2>was to highlight that part of it. But it's interesting

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<v Speaker 2>because the real love requires submission, right, And so what

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<v Speaker 2>you see is you see Jesus submitting to the Father here.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's other places where the Father says, I will

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<v Speaker 2>lift his name above every name, and that the name

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<v Speaker 2>of Jesus. Every knee will bow right right.

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<v Speaker 1>Capital elve Lord.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and will declare him Lord, and in heaven and

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<v Speaker 2>on earth right everywhere, So the Father elevates Jesus. Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>is elevating the Father. The Holy Spirit's job is to

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<v Speaker 2>promote the will of the Father and to seal the

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<v Speaker 2>people until the day of rejemption because of the sacrifice

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<v Speaker 2>of Jesus. And then he's replacing Jesus in our life

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<v Speaker 2>with regard to every day interaction. Right when I go away,

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<v Speaker 2>the Holy Spirit will come to.

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<v Speaker 1>You and be in you and be in you, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>be in me?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, right, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean, I mean think about that concept, right right. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I told you this, But who was it? What

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<v Speaker 1>speaker was it? Was it Francis Chan? But I've mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>where people of the Old Testament will get to heaven

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll say, hey, what was it like to see

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<v Speaker 1>the burning bush? That must have been amazing, and Roses says, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was great, But what was it like to have

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<v Speaker 1>God in your right? And it's like and it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't think about that, but the idea that like

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<v Speaker 1>an Old Testament character in heaven will be like, are

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<v Speaker 1>you kidding me? You got the privilege of the Holy

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<v Speaker 1>Spirit of God, the power of living in you all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. What the heck?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because the Bible says like with Samson, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Spirit of God would come upon him and he would

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<v Speaker 2>do a thing right. But what we have is we

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<v Speaker 2>have the Holy Spirit in us all the time. For

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<v Speaker 2>those of us who've trusted Christ. Now, that doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>there's a little spark of divinity in you and that

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<v Speaker 2>you're a little God right. What it does mean is

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<v Speaker 2>that God has chosen to indwell you and to empower

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<v Speaker 2>you and to teach you through the power of His

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<v Speaker 2>Holy Spirit. The issue is not how much of the

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<v Speaker 2>Holy Spirit do you have, but how much of you

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<v Speaker 2>does the Holy Spirit have? Are you surrendering to him?

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<v Speaker 2>Because so many people have access to the power never

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<v Speaker 2>flip the switch, they never actually step into it. And

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<v Speaker 2>another reason why I read this passage is because Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>connects these things to obedience, right, love of God and obedience.

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<v Speaker 2>And then this is when when you surrender and decide

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to do Jesus will. The Holy Spirit's the

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<v Speaker 2>one that's going to teach you Jesus will. Jesus said,

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<v Speaker 2>my will only comes from the Father. Right, So the

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<v Speaker 2>only way you really activate the power of the Holy

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<v Speaker 2>Spirit is if you truly love God, you choose to

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<v Speaker 2>obey him. When you begin obeying him is when you

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<v Speaker 2>begin to release the power of the Holy Spirit in you. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, before I continue with my thought,

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<v Speaker 1>a movie. Usually in a movie, really yeah, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>and he goes, she goes, you think you're God. And

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<v Speaker 1>as he's stuffing his face, he goes, well, I'm a God,

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<v Speaker 1>because he has those powers. Anyway, what I was going

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<v Speaker 1>is one of those things I think that we, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of pray wrong, you know, technically, because we say,

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<v Speaker 1>like God, you know, send your Holy Spirit down, or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, God, have your spirit, you know, cover this place.

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<v Speaker 1>And I understand what they're saying. They're saying, God, we

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<v Speaker 1>want your Holy Spirit's power to be known, to be

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<v Speaker 1>seen to work mightily.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>But but isn't it true that we already have all

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<v Speaker 1>the Holy Spirit that we are ever going to have? Yeh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's never a time where we say, man, I was,

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<v Speaker 1>should have seen it, man I was, I was on

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<v Speaker 1>fire that day. And it's because the Holy Spirit came

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<v Speaker 1>down and as implying that that you don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>enough of the Holy Spirit, you had to have more

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<v Speaker 1>of the Holy Spirit in order. Right, But you already

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<v Speaker 1>said it. You said it's the Holy you said, it's

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's a semantical argument a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you. Technically. I think that my intent

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<v Speaker 2>as a worship leader, as a preacher, if I pray

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<v Speaker 2>those things, I think what I'm really asking for is God,

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<v Speaker 2>help me to experience the presence of the Holy Spirit

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<v Speaker 2>more right, help me to experience the flow of the

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<v Speaker 2>Spirit through this place. Help me to experience the closeness

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<v Speaker 2>of the Spirit in a way that I'm not accustomed to,

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. Right now, which is that's more of a

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<v Speaker 2>surrender kind of a statement as opposed to just just

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<v Speaker 2>let your hand.

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<v Speaker 1>And that just happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry about that everybody, to the whole world.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that would have been even better. But hey, so

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<v Speaker 2>we're sitting here talking about all the spirit.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually it's it's probably just one of those voice recording things. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I must have made a list because lately it's brutal.

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<v Speaker 2>It's getting you.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh, it's brutal. Okay, so hey, that's that's a great question.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it is. It is a very different prayer.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that sometimes when we hear people say

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, they're so dumb or whatever. I don't look

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<v Speaker 1>at it as a negative thing. I just try to

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the good news is this last week we talked

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, takes it to the Father and engroanings we

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<v Speaker 2>can't comprehend. So the good news is you can pray

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<v Speaker 2>any way you want to and you're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>screw it up, right. So what we don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>do is send the message that maybe there's a right

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<v Speaker 2>way to pray in the wrong way to pray. I

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<v Speaker 2>and the wrong way to pray is not talk to God.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually that's it, doesn't that make sense?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I definitely don't want to scare people off by

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<v Speaker 2>Certain words or there's there's there's a semantical argument. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to do that. Just pray because if you don't,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're not precise the Holy Spirit. What the passage

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<v Speaker 2>we read last week was that the Holy Spirit knows

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<v Speaker 2>our heart, discerns our heart, and takes the prayers to

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<v Speaker 2>God in groanings. We can't comprehend meaning he's communicating God

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<v Speaker 2>because it is a little silly. There's a point where

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<v Speaker 2>God says, your ways aren't my ways, My thoughts aren't

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<v Speaker 2>your thoughts. So if my thoughts are not his thoughts,

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<v Speaker 2>how could I possibly even communicate you ever? Talk to

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<v Speaker 2>your wife and just not have any idea what she's

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<v Speaker 2>really getting at.

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, it's it's right. What do people

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<v Speaker 1>say only on days that end with.

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<v Speaker 2>Wife exactly right? Or have you ever had I can't

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<v Speaker 2>remember when when Jenna was learning to talk. She's my daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>She's twenty one right now, But when she was little,

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<v Speaker 2>she just had this drive to communicate. She still will

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<v Speaker 2>just take up an entire evening talking Hi Jenna. But

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<v Speaker 2>she when she was little, she wanted to talk and

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<v Speaker 2>she would just say things to me, but none of

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<v Speaker 2>it made sense. Sometimes, when she was really like like

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<v Speaker 2>three years old, she'd have a few of the words

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<v Speaker 2>she could say and then the rest of it was

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<v Speaker 2>just babble. I couldn't understand. She's clearly communicating something.

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<v Speaker 1>He's meaning something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, my granddaughter just recently has started doing this. So

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<v Speaker 2>she's little, she's she's almost two, and she's the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>So she's like, begod bit bah blah bah, and she's

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<v Speaker 2>clearly saying something. Walking away, she's pointing the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>She's trying to tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>We just had we just had a moment. I just

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what the moment was about. So it's why

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<v Speaker 2>would we think that we could even truly communicate with

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<v Speaker 2>the creator of the universe when we are so unbelievably limited,

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<v Speaker 2>and He is so unbelievably expansive. Right, So that's why

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<v Speaker 2>the Holy Spirit takes our intent translates it to the Father.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet God tells us over and over, pray to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Bring your requests, not consistently right, ask big right, and

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<v Speaker 1>it changes things, it matters. And so yeah, both of

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<v Speaker 1>those things are true.

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<v Speaker 2>So just pray, just pray, just talk to God and

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<v Speaker 2>don't worry about messing it up. But I think you're

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<v Speaker 2>right that that theologically for the theologians among us. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>there's this nuance to it. Yeah, I mean, but God's

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<v Speaker 2>not going to be mad. I've never told my granddaughter

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<v Speaker 2>if you can't articulate clearly, stop talking to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct correct. I'm like, oh yeah, but the goal on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast is to learn, right, so they're talking it out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's important. But yeah, the concern is, yeah, don't don't

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<v Speaker 1>don't make anybody afraid to pray wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>But here is the promise that we're talking about this week,

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<v Speaker 2>because this whole week is about promises. And so he's

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<v Speaker 2>literally saying, I'm leaving you a gift peace of mind

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<v Speaker 2>and heart, and the peace I give is a gift

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<v Speaker 2>the world cannot give, so don't be troubled or afraid.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think people, this is one of the great

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<v Speaker 2>searches in this generation. Is just peace. Everything is. It's

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<v Speaker 2>all upheaval all the time, right. Everybody's protesting, people burning stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>people flipping over cop cars, people fighting, people just typing,

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<v Speaker 2>so angry and mean, people doom scrolling laid into the night,

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<v Speaker 2>people upset about something. Somebody said, it's just tension all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. And Jesus says, the world can't give you

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<v Speaker 2>the peace you're looking for. It's not possible. You think

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<v Speaker 2>you can create a utopia by protesting and burning stuff down,

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<v Speaker 2>You can't the world. There's not a government in the

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<v Speaker 2>world that can truly give you the peace you're looking for. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>There's not a system, there's not a decision, there's not

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<v Speaker 2>a solution. He says. The only real peace you can

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<v Speaker 2>get is when you learn to love me. You begin

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<v Speaker 2>to experience My love for you, and the Holy Spirit

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<v Speaker 2>begins to remind you of what I've taught you and

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<v Speaker 2>remind you that there's a God in heaven that's already

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<v Speaker 2>resolved all the things. Because the world you're living in

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<v Speaker 2>is broken. But the hope that comes through Jesus Christ,

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<v Speaker 2>and his sacrifice brings all the peace you'll ever need.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what he's trying to say. And the Holy

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<v Speaker 2>Spirit the one who brings that gift.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right. And uh and the peace is miraculous too.

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<v Speaker 1>And I got to tell you, I'm I'm a I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm good with faith like I I Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're a high faith person.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a high faith person, but a peace person. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm okay with it. But but I'm not exceptional.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, and I don't know what it is. But

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<v Speaker 1>like I I I used to think that I was

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'm Maybe I'm I used to be better, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but I experience more anxiety. Maybe maybe it's just through

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<v Speaker 1>the bumps and bruises of life. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>it is, but here's my point. My point is is

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<v Speaker 1>that I see people that I admire that have peace. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think to myself, Gosh, I wish I hope,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that would be me in that situation. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, something tragic happens. I mean, I've been to funerals,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been to I've seen tragedies. I've seen things take place.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've been near people and I experience people who

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<v Speaker 1>have absolute peace when it doesn't make sense, and i

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<v Speaker 1>think to myself, Wow, this is amazing. And you know it.

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<v Speaker 1>The only way that they have that is through the

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<v Speaker 1>power of the Holy Spirit. You just know, and it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't make any sense. It transcends everything, and and and

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<v Speaker 1>it's because of the promises of God. It's because of

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<v Speaker 1>God's comfort of who of who he is, and and

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<v Speaker 1>they trust him, they give it all to him, and

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<v Speaker 1>none of that. But it's the hope of heaven. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the hope of it's the hope of all the future

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<v Speaker 1>and and all that rests in him. And and there

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<v Speaker 1>are just some people who are overcome with peace, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just blown away by it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's that's why we're doing this whole series on

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<v Speaker 2>the promises of God, right right, So look, great, before

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<v Speaker 2>I'm giving you this gift peace of mind and heart,

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<v Speaker 2>the one before that is the Father sends an advocate

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<v Speaker 2>as my representative, as the Holy Spirit. He will teach

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<v Speaker 2>you everything and remind you of everything I've told you.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he says, my peace comes. Right. So this is

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<v Speaker 2>why you need to know the promises of God, because

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<v Speaker 2>the Holy Spirit is always going to use what Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>has already said to comfort you. And so when you

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<v Speaker 2>have that moment, that's the moment you find out how

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<v Speaker 2>much time have I spent spending a God's word and

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<v Speaker 2>do I really believe it? And then the Holy Spirit

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<v Speaker 2>just gives you this overwhelming peace when you know the

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<v Speaker 2>promises of God. You know, God's bigger than your problems.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, it's so funny is that was activated

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<v Speaker 1>almost immediately because well, I guess it wasn't the Holy Spirit.

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<v Speaker 1>But remember the angels reminded them. Do you remember he

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<v Speaker 1>said he was going to rise again? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>And then don't forget? Yeah, do you remember?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? And then it says then they remembered what Jesus said, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, that the Holy Spirit had not yet come

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<v Speaker 1>on them yet at that point. But yeah, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>God does, right, He reminds, Oh, yeah, that's right. That

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<v Speaker 1>is true.

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<v Speaker 2>So our listeners and anybody else who's spending time in

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<v Speaker 2>God's word every day. There's so much wisdom in that

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<v Speaker 2>because you're building up a reservoir of peace you don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know you're gonna need until the moment of that

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<v Speaker 2>Uh oh yeah, right, well

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<v Speaker 1>That is definitely our time, so good talk and we

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<v Speaker 1>will see you hopefully tomorrow on the Bible guys,