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Welcome to the Soul Touched by Dogs
Podcast, the show for dog lovers who

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see dogs not as toys or tools, but
wise souls worth our respect and care.

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I'm an Herrmann, and I'm your host.

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I talk to poor some humans, people who
do great work for dogs and their people.

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So come and join us for
today's conversation.

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Anke: Hello and welcome, Adam.

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I'm delighted to have you here.

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Adam: Oh, thank you so much Anke.

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Appreciate you having me today.

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Anke: Well, I think we
are in for a treat today.

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I really, really look forward to
this conversation and I, you know,

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I mean, I guess on Zoom you can't
tell, but I've kind of so distracted

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by these cute faces behind you, so,

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so let's just.

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Fill people in.

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Where in this lovely world are you based
and what's your business with dogs?

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Adam: Awesome.

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Well, thank you again
so much for having me.

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It's truly, truly a privilege.

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Um, furlanthropy.

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We are a brand new charity.

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Uh, we began about two years ago,
actually two years ago this month.

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It took two years to get the charity
formed, and then two years ago we

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started our, what we call a soft opening.

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And, uh, and so for the past
two years, we've been helping

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pets across the country.

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Uh, we're based here in, in Virginia,
uh, where I live, but we are a

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hundred percent virtual and we have
our, our team is across the country,

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our boards across the country.

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Um, but it's quite, quite a journey,
quite a, a story how we got here.

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Very unlikely, uh, journey that
I'd love to share with your,

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with your listeners today.

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Anke: I can't wait.

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I can't wait.

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I mean, furlanthropy, that's like so cute.

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Adam: Aw, thank you.

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Thank you.

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Anke: It's like, who can
take credit for that name?

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Like, that is super cute.

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Adam: Aw, well, well, so it, it all
begins with, um, my wife and I, we,

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we met and married about five years
ago and blended our families together.

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And, uh, I had a cat named Kobe, who
sadly, uh, passed away, went onto the

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Rainbow Bridge and, and my wife, she had
a, a dog Poochie who passed away as well.

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And so we have five teenagers, so
plenty of activity in the Spencer

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home, but my wife said those fateful
words, honey, I think we need a dog.

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So I said, you know, the most
reasonable, logical thing that came

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to my mind, which was absolutely not.

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I, I, I don't want a dog.

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And the truth is, and I know your
listeners right now are probably

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not happy with me, but there's
a happy, there's a happy ending.

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The truth is, I had a dog
named Sterling as a child.

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But for whatever reason, over the last 35
years, I, I just became afraid of dogs and

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I had no idea what I was missing out on.

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So this incredible story, incredible
journey, uh, with a lot of arm twisting

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and, you know, being newly wet.

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I wanted to say, yes, of course,
honey, whatever you want.

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She said, well, let's just go just
to looks so sure how, what, what

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harm could be happen there, right?

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So, so we go down the local Humane
Society, and as you can imagine, uh,

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we walk down the hallway of these
rows of cages and there's a lot of.

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Dogs that are excited.

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Um, I wasn't sure, you know, if they
just wanted to hug me or, or, or what,

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or they're just happy to be, to see
someone and wanting to be, be, uh, um,

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adopted, but just kept saying, no, no, no.

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And we get to the final blast.

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Last cage in our tour and back in
the corner, we almost missed her.

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It was this little, little lump of fur.

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And, uh, my wife and daughters
had walked out out of the, out of

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the, the facility hallway there,
and I said, Hey, wait a minute.

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What, what about this one?

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And so just to appease them, of course
I had no interest in adopting a dog.

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So just to appease them.

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So sure enough, we, we arranged
a meet and greet, but there

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was already a waiting list.

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Whew.

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That's all right.

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We'll just look through the
glass and watch as this dog is

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supposedly supposed to be bonding
with the potential pet parent.

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Um, but she kept coming over
to us and my wife says, honey,

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that that's a sign right there.

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I said, ah, no.

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I think she just knows we have treats, you
know, still, again, it's not gonna happen.

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Thankfully, I thought there's a waiting
list, so there's no way I'm gonna

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end up having, having to get a dog.

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So as we head home and, and my
wife says, you know, honey, we

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always pray about everything.

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So you, you need to pray about this.

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Okay, sure.

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I'll say a prayer, you know,
if it's meant to be, and I did.

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I.

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If I'm truthfully honest with you,
over the long weekend, there were

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moments that this precious little
fur baby came to top of mind and

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I would just sort of dismiss it.

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Alright?

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I'll say a little prayer, but
again, it's not gonna happen.

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Well, I get that call
on Monday morning, Mr.

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Spencer, she's all yours.

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There must be some kinda mistake here
that surely, surely you have me confused

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with somebody that, nope, the other pet
parents felt like it wasn't a good fit.

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And so come on down.

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So reluctantly I go down with
my wife to the Humane Society.

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We agreed not to tell the kids because
we didn't want them to get their

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hopes built up just in case, you
know, something happened and we get in

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there and I'm trying to think of Anki.

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I'm trying to think of every excuse
I can think of to not get a dog.

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And the lady says those other magic words.

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She's half price.

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And my wife knowing that I'm OCD
about coupons said, now honey, how

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do you say no to a half price dog?

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Right?

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So moments later, there's this really
awkward picture as they're carrying,

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as I say, this little lump of fur out
and they hand her to me, kinda like you

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hand a baby to, to someone, a newborn
baby who's never held a baby before.

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There's this really awkward picture where
the dog's looking at me and I'm looking

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at it and we're not really sure what's
going on, and she can hear my thoughts.

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I don't want a dog.

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And so I'm kind of awkwardly
carrying her 'cause she's too frail

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and too scared to walk on her own.

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And here's a true story.

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We're walking out the door, across the
parking lot, out of the Humane Society

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heading towards the, the, the vehicle.

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And I'm saying out loud to
the dismay of all the people

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around me, I don't want a dog.

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I don't want a dog.

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And I'm saying it louder and
louder and then it happened.

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I look down, I see her
precious little eyes.

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I get emotional here and I said, I love
you and I'm gonna take care of you.

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And I kissed her head.

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Oh.

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My wife had said, did, did you
just tell the dog you loved it?

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Did you just kiss her?

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Like, like what?

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What just happened?

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Like what in the world?

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It literally felt like an
out of body experience.

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It literally was hazelnut,
as we've affectionately named

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her, literally touched my soul.

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And I, and I, I mean that so
genuinely and anybody who knows me.

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You know, four or five years ago, this
is the furthest that I would be starting

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a charity that helps pets, especially
dogs, is the furthest thing from my mind.

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And yet, in that moment, this
precious, furry blessing literally

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change the heart of this crusty guy.

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And today, not only do I love her,
but I can't walk past a, a pet

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without wanting to talk to it.

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And, and we've since adopted
a second, second dog.

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And then hazelnut inspired
this incredible charity, which

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I'll talk to you more about.

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But that's the true
story of how we got here.

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I

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Anke: love that.

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I love that too.

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That's so funny though.

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And I do actually, especially, I
had a similar experience with, with

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this one, the second dog that came
to me in this like, well, I hadn't

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planned to, to get a second dog.

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I have a dog.

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Like I, I, you know, and I was
literally, I had a moment like

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that, so I kind of totally get
it because he was like tiny and.

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He just looked at me and it was like,
literally, that's, that's why kind of the

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name also, you know, there's, you kind of
like, this isn't a rational kind of thing.

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They just, they touched the
soul just right in there.

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I, you know, and it's, it's beautiful.

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It's just, yeah.

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So, so Hazel not still around like so

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Adam: she is, she is Hazel.

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Anke: Not, so she was
like, how old is she?

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Because when you say like she was
frail, was she just because she was

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like neglected and kind of scared?

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Or was she, is she older?

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Adam: Sure.

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Well, she, we think she was, of
course, you know, with the Humane

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Society, you don't always know the
history of all the dogs and their ages.

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They estimate that she
was about a year old.

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Um, also maybe

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Anke: young dogs still

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Adam: so very young, very frail.

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Uh, she's gained about 40 pounds,
uh, actually about 50 pounds.

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10 of those are a little bit
too much, uh, lots of treats.

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Uh, but she's gone from this very
frail and scared dog to the most happy.

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Loving, I'll say the perfect dog.

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She's just amazing.

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And, and so when I learned about
her, her background, uh, that her

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first family had to forfeit her
because they couldn't afford her

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lifesaving care, thankfully, uh, the
veterinarian proceeded to save her life.

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We know, as you know, two thirds of
pets that are euthanized or euthanized

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just because of a lack of finances.

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So hazelnut truly was a miracle.

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Well, she was one of the lucky few that
actually got the care that she needed, and

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then they donated her to the main society
in hopes that she would get adopted.

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And so, uh, my background is I've been
a, a fundraising executive for 20 some

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years for all kinds of, of worthy causes.

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And so I was just stunned.

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I I didn't know the, the,
um, pet industry very well.

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And truthfully, my cat was
pretty self-sufficient.

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There wasn't a lot of needs there.

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One surgery early on and annual
visits, but that was about it.

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And so I just had no idea the
hardship, uh, and the crisis that's

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out there around access to care
and those financial barriers.

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And so I thought for sure, there's
gotta be a program out there.

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And, uh, we've heard of GoFundMe
and there's 2000, 2000 literally

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crowdfunding platforms out there,
but they're all for profit.

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And so in my mind I'm thinking,
well, if the greatest fundraising

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vehicle in the world is crowdfunding,
shouldn't that be run by?

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By nonprofit, by fundraising executives,
and not just, you know, people

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motivated by check transactions,
but motivat motivated by mission.

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And so it took two years, but we created
the first ever charity owned and operated

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crowdfunding platform where anybody
can come to our website for free.

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They can fundraise for any pet need
as well as any pet related or animal

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related cause that they care about.

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And so I'll just say this, that literally,
truly hazelnut not only saved my heart and

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rescued me, and she truly did rescue me.

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Uh, she's also inspired help for, for pets
all across the country, which is amazing.

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Anke: That's that's fascinating.

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I had no, I mean, I
didn't realize how many.

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Pets were euthanized because of that.

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I literally saw something the other
day where somebody talked like was a

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video on Instagram or something where
somebody was talking about this whole.

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Situation where vet clinics get more and
more bought out, you know, and then all of

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a sudden like prices go through the roof.

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And I think, you know, over there, like
prices are ridiculous to start with.

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And so apparently it's kind of as
like the smaller clinics get bought

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out and taken over by these big
companies, it gets worse and worse.

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And so I think that's.

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It's, it's a problem that
seems to be on the rise that

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people can't afford the care.

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And I've had clients where
they've said, oh, well, you know,

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my dog needed something minor.

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It's like, okay, what's, you
know, like some ridiculous

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amount and yeah, the insurance.

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But no, you have to for it out first and
then you can start fighting to see whether

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we'll pay you something, so, mm-hmm.

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You know, so I think there's
so much of a need for that.

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Adam: There is, there is, you know, in
the past, since 2014, so in the past

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10, 11 years, uh, the cost of pet care
has risen 60%, which is incredible.

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It's really, really unsustainable.

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If, if you look at that, uh, that
those numbers, and we know that

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50 million pets in America today,
uh, lack adequate care, uh, lack.

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Uh, access to how to kick where care.

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So just literally the basic
care for your pet, your annual

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pet visits, food, and so on.

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Uh, annual vaccines, 15
million pets, which is a lot.

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So it's, it's a crisis that we have to
get ahead of and, and I really think

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our, our program being so innovative.

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You mentioned something
really important there.

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You said a lot of folks, when
a, when a crisis happens for

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their pet, they triage it.

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Triage it by, by sending whatever methods
they can, uh, to pay that bill upfront.

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Uh, whether it's a credit card or
scratch pay, and then oftentimes,

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regardless of, of how the pet fares
after that, um, the pet parent is,

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is now curing this heavy burden.

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This heavy debt.

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And even if that pet does well,
what if that pet needs future care?

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If you're a pet parent that's already
maxed out your resources, what do you do?

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And so one of the things that's
unique about furlanthropy is that you

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can fundraise for future expenses,
present expenses, or past expenses.

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And so we, you can raise those
funds and get reimbursed for the

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money that you've already spent.

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Anke: Oh, okay.

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So.

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Like, what's the, what's the model?

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So I mean, who, who goes there?

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Is it people who go, well, I
can't afford, you know, I want to

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give that pet a home, but I can't
afford those ridiculous vet bills.

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And who, who are typically the people
who donate are that like, is, is that

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companies or is that private people
or, or who's doing the donating?

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Adam: Short answer is yes, all the above.

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Um, what we've seen in the past 18, 20,
uh, 24 months, um, about two years now,

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I guess it's been two years, uh, since
we first opened our website, uh, we've

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helped 175 pets and we've distributed.

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Just over today, literally today,
as did the numbers we just reached.

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I wanna see if we could reach that
a hundred thousand dollars mark.

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And we did, which is really exciting to
think that our donors have contributed

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not only for our operating costs,
which is very slim, um, but also

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they've contributed in all these
fundraisers and then direct gifts to

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furlanthropy, um, over a, just, just
over a hundred thousand dollars, uh,

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in preventing the suffering of pets.

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And so it's everybody involved.

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It's the, it's the veterinarian.

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Who's maybe having that
conversation with a pet parent?

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What do we do?

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And, uh, they're, they're
recommending furlanthropy.

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Uh, they can create the fundraising
campaign on their behalf.

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Or it's the pet parent coming to the
veterinarian and saying, Hey, just so you

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know, this is how I plan to pay this bill.

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You're gonna hear from furlanthropy,
they're gonna be calling.

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'cause that's one of the unique things.

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That's why donors love this model.

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There's so much fraud.

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There's so much scams out there.

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Anke: Yeah.

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Adam: And so that was one of the things
that really drove this, this whole

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idea, uh, 'cause as a fundraising, uh,
professional, it, it really bothers

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me when I see, uh, people who give
from the kindness of their heart.

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We know giving is never not
personal, whether it's a

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dollar or a million dollars.

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And so to see that gift not go where
it's supposed to go is, is gut wrenching.

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So we change that, we solved that.

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Uh, so every single fundraiser that's
created, we call a veterinarian

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and we verify this is a real pet.

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This is a real expense and when the
money's raised, we send it directly

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to wherever that need is located.

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Oh.

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So that then encouraged the
veterinarians to say, you know what?

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I think we'll contribute to this.

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'cause they know ultimately those
funds are gonna come to them.

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'cause there's a lot of situations
where, you know, the, the veterinarian

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will, will take an IOU or discount
services, maybe tragically the pet.

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Passes away.

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Um, or for whatever reason, the pet
parent just says, you know what?

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I'm not gonna pay you.

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And then the veterinarian is
stuck holding that burden.

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And sadly, I did not know this
when I, when I began furlanthropy.

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Sadly, veterinary professionals have
one of the highest suicide rates of

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any profession, which is just daunting.

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In fact, we someone who used
our, our platform to raise

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$5,000, uh, for a charity that
helps veterinary professionals

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with mental health issues, so.

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It's, it's such a special, important,
um, niche in here, in this whole, um,

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process of helping not just prevent
the suffering of animals, but to

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reduce that financial burden so that,
that the veterinary professional

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isn't carrying it, but then also the
pet parent doesn't have to carry it.

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Uh, so if they can have that, that,
that veterinary expense paid for,

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they're more likely to proceed
with, with future expenses as well.

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But again, every fundraiser is verified.

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Funds are sent directly to the need.

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What also makes us really unique is that
we are a 5 0 1 C3 registered charity.

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So unlike GoFundMe and the other 2000
for-profit companies, because we're a

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nonprofit, every single donation that
you make is tax deductible eligible.

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And so we know with the new tax laws next
year, every person, every individual.

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Who has to pay taxes can file up
to a thousand dollars in charitable

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giving or 2000 as a house household.

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Um, and so it, it's gonna
benefit everybody, you know,

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financially who, who donates.

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But it's, it's, you ask who gives,
it's the folks who, who just have

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a heart for what we're doing and,
and believe in what we're doing.

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And they value the, those, um, those
unique distinctives, um, that making sure

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that it's secure and it's verifiable.

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Anke: That's, that's fascinating because
I see it a lot and like here in Spain

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where I'm, you know, like, like rescues,
that's usually, you know, was so, you

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know, usually run by a couple of girls
with no jobs and scraping by and they're

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constantly, here's my PayPal link.

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Right?

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And then, and then next thing you
know, it's like other people write

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on the, on the, on the back of that.

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And then they will just kind of
post photos of dogs in misery and

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put their, you know, and then they
fa they finance their holidays

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with it or whatever they do.

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Right.

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But it's like, I think that making sure
that really goes to the right place,

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I think that gives a lot of, that.

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Builds a lot of trust.

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Adam: It does.

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It does.

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Anke: That makes so much sense.

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Adam: And, and I, I was gonna say, in
addition to that, you know, financially,

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what, what makes that really special
and unique for the donor as well?

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If you look at crowdfunding globally in
general, uh, because again, it's housed by

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for-profit companies, you're limited into
the kinds of gifts that you can give to

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a GoFundMe or another platform like that.

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You can only give from your bank account.

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Or I guess you could give from
your credit card, but most people

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don't go into debt for charity, so
it's literally your bank account.

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Well, what makes it unique?

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What furlanthropy affords
individuals is the opportunity

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to give any non-cash asset.

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Towards that campaign.

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So literally our brand new
website that I'm excited to

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announce is coming this month.

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And uh, on there you'll be able to
click on any pets, a fundraiser,

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any individual's fundraiser,
and you can click a button.

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You can give Cash App or Venmo or
Apple Pay, but you can also click

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a button and donate stock gifts.

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Directly to that fundraiser, you
can click a button and donate from

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your donor-advised fund directly
to, to that, uh, fundraiser.

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It's never been done before.

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And so what we're gonna see over the
course of the next couple months and

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years is the average crowdfunding
gift is gonna go from 10 $20.

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It's gonna skyrocket because now people
can give from other buckets of funding

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than just what they have in the bank.

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Anke: Wow.

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That's, that's fascinating.

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I mean, see, I'm like, now that
we've got a professional in the

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room here, I'm really curious.

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Um, 'cause I've seen, you know, like
people on Facebook as, oh, you know, like

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GoFundMe and all of these for various
kind of causes and what I've noticed that

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there's some that do really well, right?

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You come in there and they
tell the story and people seem

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to be donating a lot, right?

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And others don't.

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Right.

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So.

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If you were to give a tip for somebody
creating a campaign like that, you

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know, what should they be taken into
account or what, what should they

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think about when they, how will you
present your case so that people

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feel it's worth, um, donating to?

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Adam: Yeah, that's a
great, great question.

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And I mean this genuinely, not just
because I, I started furlanthropy.

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Um, but truly if you have a need come
to furlanthropy for all the reasons

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I just mentioned, you're gonna have a
greater chance of, of raising greater

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amounts of money because there's
more buckets that we can pull from.

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So that in and of itself, I mean, you
can try those other, and they and those

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other, uh, platforms do do good work.

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Um, but donors will, if you give
donors an option of more ways for

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them to give and more types of
gifts to give, then naturally.

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You are gonna get greater
gifts and for folks who need

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that charitable tax deduction.

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Going through furlanthropy,
you, you provide that for them.

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So you're gonna get
larger size of the gifts.

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And one of the unique things about
our platform is with the AI technology

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and, and the robust features behind
this, the second you click start

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on your fundraiser, not only is it
is it, uh, shared on our website,

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it's immediately shared on Facebook.

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So you have two fundraisers,
uh, simultaneously, they're

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both related to each other.

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But you have really two things pushing
that need and, and with that it's a

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really e uh, user-friendly platform.

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So it only takes a few minutes.

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Uh, but there's an opportunity
there to show videos.

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I can tell you just in the past
two years, um, the individuals who

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have done the most successful in
their fundraising, it's the images.

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Um, 'cause when you grab someone's
heart, you touch someone's soul.

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It, it changes everything.

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And so, um, describing,
uh, where the need is.

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Um, but why is that?

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Why is your pet so special to you?

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Why is that furry family
member so important to you?

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And sharing those many videos?

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And as many pictures as you can.

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And again, the advantage of furlanthropy
is the donor knowing, you know what?

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This is real, I don't
even have to question it.

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It's been verified.

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This person's real.

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This pet is real.

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This expense is real.

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And if I give all these wonderful
ways that actually benefit me as a

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donor, but if I give, it's actually
gonna go directly to the need.

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And so those are all powerful things
that have not traditionally existed.

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So we're really upending that
traditional model of crowdfunding.

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Anke: I mean, I love that you
kind of sent this straight over to

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Facebook because that's also the
other, the next question, right?

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I mean, I see it more mostly like in the
online business kind of space when people.

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Wanna promote something and then,
well, if you don't have an audience,

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like you are kind of stuck, right?

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Because if you don't normally,
or if you're not normally access

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active on social media, right?

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You could post whatever you want.

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Nobody's gonna see it.

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Nobody's gonna care, right?

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So, and most people.

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And say, if you are in, in the,
in the business space, and like,

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well, that's part of your job
to build that audience, right?

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Mm-hmm.

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But if I am having my pet and I'm
just doing my life with my pet,

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and now I have a need, I don't
necessarily have an audience.

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Right.

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So how, how do you suggest, or how
can you help people actually reach,

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um, you know, potential donors?

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Adam: Sure.

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Well, lemme start by saying on that
platform, there's a place where

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you can email your, uh, I was just
talking to someone yesterday who I

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was shocked and she said I only have
three Facebook friends and she's very

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personable and knows a lot of people.

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Um, but she has other connections
in other ways and so she's

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able to take a copy that link.

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And put that in the email.

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She's also able to download, you're able
to download your, your, uh, fundraiser

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and just having those conversations.

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You know, we get this, these
questions all the time, you

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know, can you please help me?

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I'll do anything to help my pet.

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Oh, I can't fundraise though.

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Wait a minute.

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You just said you'd do
anything to help your pet.

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So I think there's that stigma.

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A little bit of fear.

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I don't wanna ask anybody for help,
but here's the secret, what I've

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learned in 20 years of fundraising.

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It's not about the ask, it's
about the donor in their heart.

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And so when people give, the reason why
donors give is to ultimately fulfill

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something that's already in their heart.

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Charities think it's their mission, uh, or
their cause, but it really starts there.

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They're not gonna give if they
don't believe that your pet is

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real and if it's a real need.

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But it starts with fulfilling
the why in their heart.

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And so that individual who says, I'm gonna
give, I don't know you, but I saw your,

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you're a fundraiser on the furlanthropy
website, and, uh, I just lost my dog,

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and I want to give a memory of my dog.

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Or, I'm not allowed to have dogs anymore.

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I can't take care of them, but I love
them enough that I wanna support.

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And so those, what you are providing is an
opportunity for people to be a blessing,

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um, in supporting your fundraiser.

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If I had a dollar for every
time someone said, thank you

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for letting me make this gift.

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Recently someone gave, gave a hundred
thousand dollars to another cause

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that I help and, and they cry.

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They said, thank you for
letting me give this gift.

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And so sure you can do it
tomorrow again if you want.

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No, but, but literally.

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Right.

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But that's the, but that's the
heartbeat behind the donor.

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And so it's not as hard and complicated
and scary as we make it to be.

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You're just connecting your story.

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With donors hearts.

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And so you have a lot of people and, uh,
you can call and, and by the way, they

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can give, they don't have to give online.

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So if you have a conversation
with your neighbor.

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And they say, you know, we'd
like to help, but, but maybe your

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neighbor wants to be anonymous.

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Um, they can still send a check in
the mail, uh, to, to furlanthropy.

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They can send a donor-advised fund gift
or a stock gift to us offline, and then we

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can apply that amount to your fundraiser.

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And so you do know a lot of people, even
if you're someone who's not on Facebook, I

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promise you there are people in your orbit
who would help if you just invited them.

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And then in addition to that, we
as philanthropies, we're still

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young, we're still growing,
um, but we have a following.

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We have folks who just give us
money and say, you know what?

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We don't care what cat you help or
what dog, we just want you to help.

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And so we do contribute to, uh, to
our, our clients, uh, to fundraisers.

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Campaigns.

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We can't contribute to
all of them, obviously.

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Um, but, but we do encourage
And, and the other thing I

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would just say real quickly is.

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Tell your veterinarian what you're doing,
invite them to give and because if you're

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a veterinarian, I mentioned this earlier,
if your veterinarian knows that, number

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one, they're gonna see those funds back,
and number two, they get a charitable

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tax deduction, that's a win-win.

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Right.

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I mean, if your veterinarian gave
to the local Humane Society or

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local charity, they're gonna get
a recognition and a tax receipt.

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But if they give to furlanthropy,
they're gonna go get recognition,

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a tax receipt, and Right.

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That.

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Right.

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So it's a win-win for everybody.

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And so, um, so I think there's a lot
of distinctives that will really help.

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And, and here's one more thing.

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We, we.

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We distribute funds every single
Friday, um, and if it's an

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emergency situation within 48 hours.

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So we don't wait until your, uh, 30
days, or wait until your campaign

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reaches a hundred percent of its goal.

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We wanna get those funds out of our
hands that have been raised directly

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to the need as quick as possible.

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And so pet parents appreciate that,
veterinarians appreciate that.

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Uh, so it's getting those
funds as quick as possible.

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Majority of our fundraisers
to date haven't reached a

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hundred percent of their goal.

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That's gonna change
with this new platform.

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It's gonna double.

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But what I have found is
even the fundraisers that

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raised 75, 80% of their goal.

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Is life changing and it's not
always the $10,000 expense.

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We just had a conversation with a,
with a precious, uh, senior saint

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recently who is battling cancer,
and she said, uh, I, I, I need to

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raise $300 for medicine for my dog.

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My dog is, is battling cancer.

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She says, I just can't imagine
spending the, my remaining days without

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my precious, precious for a baby.

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So in that situation, I said,
don't worry about the fundraiser.

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We're gonna, we're gonna
just gonna pay for it.

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But it's, it's sometimes that barrier.

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It's only a few hundred dollars.

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Now, that might not be a lot to,
to some people, but for a lot

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of people that's a huge barrier.

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And so it doesn't take a lot of dollars to
make a little transformational difference.

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Anke: Wow.

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I mean, that's, I, I think,
sounds like quite emotional.

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Like, you know, you gotta, but we
have your little, you know, like

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hot on your sleeve all day long.

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Right?

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Adam: It really is.

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It really is.

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Anke: Yeah.

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I mean, and so now I'm also curious,
so, so you are basically, okay,

00:26:21.521 --> 00:26:25.751
it's a nonprofit, but you guys, you
guys have expenses as well, so they

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will always be also, I always wonder
like how do nonprofits make money?

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Like they kind of need to
keep the lights on, right?

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So how does that work?

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Adam: We raise money specifically
for our operating costs.

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Um, I can tell you I don't get paid.

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Uh, we have no employees.

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We have a lot of volunteers, a couple
contractual people, uh, just to make

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sure that we're, we're doing things
as professionally as possible, but

00:26:45.716 --> 00:26:47.876
we run a very slim operating budget.

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You know, sometimes you, uh, look up
a charity and you find out their CEO

00:26:51.776 --> 00:26:55.616
is making tons of money, or I got
a phone call the other day someone

00:26:55.616 --> 00:26:58.711
wanted me to donate to a cause that I
thought was wonderful until they said.

00:26:59.236 --> 00:27:04.636
Only 10% of my gift was gonna go to help
that cause always do your homework and,

00:27:04.636 --> 00:27:06.916
and see if it's more than 10, maybe 20.

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My wife and I, we don't give to any
organization that gleans more than

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20%, uh, for operating costs for us.

00:27:13.516 --> 00:27:17.836
Uh, we glean 10% of every donation
to reserve that to not only help

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fund our operations to have a.

00:27:19.731 --> 00:27:23.151
A robust online program and,
and all the legal things that

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come with running a charity and
fundraising across the country.

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Um, but also to be able to be in a
position to help other, other, uh,

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fundraisers that are less, less popular.

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And so, um, we rely on a
lot of unrestricted gifts.

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Uh, I can share with you that
Petmart Charities gave us a $204,000

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grant, uh, which was incredible.

00:27:41.751 --> 00:27:46.791
Um, and that was a huge shot in the
arm, uh, for this young charity a

00:27:46.791 --> 00:27:48.561
year ago that nobody knew about.

00:27:48.561 --> 00:27:49.431
And they said, you know what?

00:27:49.901 --> 00:27:52.781
You guys are doing so such innovative
things, we think you're gonna make

00:27:52.781 --> 00:27:56.201
such a huge impact, uh, that we want
to get behind this from the start.

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And so that was a great, uh, not
just their support, but having their,

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their endorsement, uh, was awesome.

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So, yes, uh, if there are individuals
watching that wanna make a

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donation to help us, it literally
goes towards our mission of, of

00:28:08.381 --> 00:28:10.031
preventing the suffering of, of pets.

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Anke: I love that.

00:28:11.621 --> 00:28:11.651
I love that.

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So you were mentioning vets, so if
somebody goes, well, you know, my dog.

00:28:16.646 --> 00:28:20.276
Has kind of had an accident and
needs to be, needs like, I don't

00:28:20.276 --> 00:28:24.296
know, like massage or chemotherapy or
like, you know, chiropractor section.

00:28:24.476 --> 00:28:27.011
Would that also be included
or is it strictly beds?

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Adam: Any, any animal related
cause and it doesn't have to

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be urgent or emergency related.

00:28:32.516 --> 00:28:33.176
It could be.

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Uh, we had, uh, in, in right here
in, in our, our hometown, we had

00:28:37.316 --> 00:28:39.986
an individual who just needed
arthritis medicine for her pet.

00:28:40.586 --> 00:28:41.846
And it was just a couple hundred dollars.

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So it doesn't have to necessarily
be emergency or life threatening.

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And it's, it's, doesn't have
to be just for, um, for pets.

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Uh, for cats and dogs.

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It can be for any pet.

00:28:52.881 --> 00:28:54.501
It could be for equine needs.

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You see a picture of a horse behind me.

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It could be for boarding fees,
it could be for food, uh, it

00:28:59.721 --> 00:29:01.101
could be for disaster relief.

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We had an individual who lost
everything in a home fire.

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And, uh, a lot, several national
and local charities showed up and

00:29:07.371 --> 00:29:10.911
provide financial assistance for the
family, but nothing for the pets.

00:29:11.151 --> 00:29:11.241
Mm-hmm.

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And which is often the case in those
darkest hours, the pets are often the,

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the least to be the last to be helped.

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And so we raise $500.

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It started a furlanthropy fundraiser.

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We raised $500 and she just cried.

00:29:22.621 --> 00:29:26.191
She said The thought of after losing
everything, the thought of being separated

00:29:26.191 --> 00:29:30.511
from my pets just because I couldn't
afford to feed them, was heartbreaking

00:29:30.511 --> 00:29:34.681
for me and my kids, and having them with
us, our furry family members, keeping

00:29:34.681 --> 00:29:38.606
our families together meant so much
in helping us on our road to recovery.

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So, uh, it was just $500, but,
so it can be used for that.

00:29:43.316 --> 00:29:46.856
It can be used if you wanna raise to a
fundraiser for your favorite charity.

00:29:47.246 --> 00:29:50.756
Uh, it could be a local or
national, any animal related cause.

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Anke: I love that.

00:29:52.976 --> 00:29:53.006
I love that.

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So where can people go and,
uh, you know, check it out and

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go to the brand new website.

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You know, find, find out more about you

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Adam: furlanthropy.org.

00:30:02.786 --> 00:30:06.686
Just like it sounds furlanthropy,
uh, furlanthropy.org.

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Anke: I love that.

00:30:08.741 --> 00:30:10.061
Well, thank you so much.

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This is, was really eye opening and
fascinating and it's such beautiful work

00:30:14.021 --> 00:30:18.011
because I've seen, you know, I have, I
heard cases where it's like, okay, yeah,

00:30:18.071 --> 00:30:21.281
don't have the money to pay for this
and the heart break is, I don't even

00:30:21.281 --> 00:30:24.131
wanna think about, you know, having to.

00:30:24.391 --> 00:30:28.651
Let my dogs like suffer or having
to lose them because I can't,

00:30:28.651 --> 00:30:29.521
you know, because of the money.

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So it's just beautiful.

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Thank you so much for coming on
and sharing that and I really hope,

00:30:35.671 --> 00:30:39.481
and I have no doubts really that
you'll be doing spectacularly well.

00:30:39.481 --> 00:30:40.201
So thank you.

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Adam: Thank you an appreciate you so much.

00:30:42.181 --> 00:30:44.041
Thank you for your kindness
and thank you for what you do.

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Appreciate it.

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Thank you.

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