WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:02.986 --> 00:00:03.616 Kara Cutruzzula: hi everyone. 00:00:03.616 --> 00:00:04.846 Welcome to Do It Today. 00:00:04.846 --> 00:00:07.366 I'm Kara Cula, and today I'm talking with Dr. 00:00:07.366 --> 00:00:10.906 Aegean Chan, who is a board certified dermatologist in 00:00:10.906 --> 00:00:12.406 Santa Barbara, California. 00:00:12.565 --> 00:00:16.352 She recently opened her own practice, has done extensive lab research, has 00:00:16.352 --> 00:00:19.761 published in medical journals, and also happens to run one of my favorite 00:00:19.791 --> 00:00:21.921 Instagram accounts with skincare advice. 00:00:22.029 --> 00:00:24.846 And she balances about a million things during her day, 00:00:24.851 --> 00:00:26.217 I'm guessing, and does it all. 00:00:26.249 --> 00:00:29.920 Really well, and I know has a lot of advice, for how to get through the day. 00:00:29.920 --> 00:00:32.410 So Aegean, it's so nice to catch up with you. 00:00:32.441 --> 00:00:33.341 It's been a while. 00:00:33.341 --> 00:00:35.711 And what are you doing today of all days? 00:00:35.917 --> 00:00:36.727 Aegean Chan Burnett: Hi Kara. 00:00:36.906 --> 00:00:42.366 Um, so today is my admin day, which I purposely built into my weekly schedule. 00:00:42.539 --> 00:00:47.546 So right now I am sitting in my car talking to you and waiting 00:00:47.546 --> 00:00:49.196 to go into my daughter's school. 00:00:49.376 --> 00:00:51.699 They have, a little window where the parents can come 00:00:51.699 --> 00:00:53.169 observe them in their work. 00:00:53.393 --> 00:00:55.433 And then I have a staff meeting later. 00:00:55.433 --> 00:00:59.854 So today is kind of like my smorgasbord, kind of do all the random things that I'm 00:00:59.854 --> 00:01:02.254 not able to do when I'm seeing patients. 00:01:02.338 --> 00:01:05.518 Kara Cutruzzula: And is that every Monday or do you, does it change week to week? 00:01:05.730 --> 00:01:07.410 Aegean Chan Burnett: It's either Monday or Wednesday, 00:01:07.410 --> 00:01:09.210 depending on my clinic schedule. 00:01:09.339 --> 00:01:10.307 I make sure I have. 00:01:10.307 --> 00:01:15.813 This stay every week, because otherwise, I think trying to fit meetings, in my 00:01:15.843 --> 00:01:21.723 45 minute lunch while pumping between seeing patients, it's just, it's too much. 00:01:21.728 --> 00:01:25.231 So, I'm happy that I can have the flexibility to have sort of an admin 00:01:25.231 --> 00:01:28.861 day to, to do all of these things and, and be there for my kids and 00:01:28.861 --> 00:01:30.511 have that flexibility of time. 00:01:31.099 --> 00:01:33.696 Kara Cutruzzula: you also Have a new baby too. 00:01:33.756 --> 00:01:38.249 So, how has that sort of changed your schedule to have an infant 00:01:38.249 --> 00:01:40.169 and a toddler at the same time? 00:01:40.169 --> 00:01:44.424 Has that really shifted the way your work week is structured and, 00:01:44.429 --> 00:01:47.737 and the hours that you spend at home versus in the, in clinic? 00:01:48.188 --> 00:01:48.848 Aegean Chan Burnett: Oh boy. 00:01:48.853 --> 00:01:55.241 So, um, she turned six months this past weekend, so, the time has flown and 00:01:55.246 --> 00:01:57.131 it definitely has been an adjustment. 00:01:57.131 --> 00:02:00.386 So going from one to two kids, you realize. 00:02:00.746 --> 00:02:04.651 You actually had a lot of free time when you had one kid unbeknownst to me. 00:02:05.065 --> 00:02:09.745 so with two, it's definitely been more of a juggle and I've had to be a lot more 00:02:09.745 --> 00:02:14.503 intentional with trying to find time to do things that aren't childcare related. 00:02:14.749 --> 00:02:19.777 I've actually just started coming back to work, on my full-time schedule. 00:02:20.061 --> 00:02:23.492 At four months I started seeing patients two half days and I was still 00:02:23.492 --> 00:02:28.453 home with the baby the other times and just squeezing in meetings and I. 00:02:28.453 --> 00:02:31.136 Making content, during naps essentially. 00:02:31.136 --> 00:02:32.786 So that felt a little bit hectic. 00:02:32.932 --> 00:02:37.010 Um, and also doing housework and all of the things that need to 00:02:37.010 --> 00:02:41.300 happen for a household to run and for people to stay fed and clean. 00:02:41.567 --> 00:02:45.683 um, and so now, at six months, I'm kind of ramping up into my, 00:02:45.898 --> 00:02:48.445 long-term kind of full-time schedule. 00:02:48.445 --> 00:02:50.139 So I see patients part-time. 00:02:50.290 --> 00:02:51.606 about two and a half days a week. 00:02:51.662 --> 00:02:54.290 And then I'm also reading pathology. 00:02:54.355 --> 00:02:57.014 so I do that, uh, two half days a week. 00:02:57.238 --> 00:03:01.753 And then, the, I have an admin day and then I actually am, uh, with 00:03:01.753 --> 00:03:03.542 my daughter at home one day a week. 00:03:03.542 --> 00:03:08.279 Um, because I've just found with the chaos of two kids, a toddler just sucks my time. 00:03:08.279 --> 00:03:12.240 So I really wanted to still preserve a little dedicated pocket of time for 00:03:12.240 --> 00:03:16.346 the new baby because, a lot of the time and a lot of two kid parents probably 00:03:16.346 --> 00:03:20.311 understand this, your, your second kid kind of hangs out by themselves 00:03:20.311 --> 00:03:25.081 in the corner in a safe spot while there's chaos kind of going around them. 00:03:25.086 --> 00:03:26.700 So that's kind of, what I. 00:03:26.857 --> 00:03:31.094 Wanted to do to keep myself sane, to just essentially create these 00:03:31.094 --> 00:03:36.246 little pockets of time and create dedicated time to do these things. 00:03:36.246 --> 00:03:38.868 Because I think before things could be free flowing. 00:03:38.868 --> 00:03:43.154 You could find pockets of time, but I think once you have a second kid, your 00:03:43.154 --> 00:03:47.144 free time shrinks up significantly and you really have to be intentional. 00:03:47.645 --> 00:03:47.869 Kara Cutruzzula: Yeah. 00:03:47.989 --> 00:03:49.756 What I'm hearing too is. 00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:54.135 You clearly have so much that you're doing and so many priorities in your life, but 00:03:54.178 --> 00:03:59.657 you sound very calm or like you actually know what each week is going to hold. 00:03:59.657 --> 00:04:04.026 is that true or is that just what I'm reading into, Like you, you know, the 00:04:04.026 --> 00:04:08.191 expectations of the weeks and you feel like you're putting your time towards 00:04:08.196 --> 00:04:09.841 the things that are important to you. 00:04:10.494 --> 00:04:11.925 Aegean Chan Burnett: Yeah, so I. 00:04:12.465 --> 00:04:14.483 Definitely have my ups and downs. 00:04:14.483 --> 00:04:18.599 I think today is a kind of an easy start to the week. 00:04:18.599 --> 00:04:20.455 Having my admin day on a we on a Monday. 00:04:20.499 --> 00:04:25.368 so I'm able to regroup after the weekend but I do think that having that slow ramp 00:04:25.368 --> 00:04:30.252 up period, I was able to think about and see, okay, this is what my life is like. 00:04:30.364 --> 00:04:34.534 Let me focus in and, and decide what I wanna spend my time doing. 00:04:34.677 --> 00:04:36.363 And how do I make that happen? 00:04:36.393 --> 00:04:38.253 How do I carve out time for that? 00:04:38.381 --> 00:04:43.008 So going into my more full-time schedule, I do feel really good because I have 00:04:43.008 --> 00:04:45.547 those set boundaries around my time. 00:04:45.797 --> 00:04:48.437 you know, like I said, I'm home with my daughter on Fridays. 00:04:48.558 --> 00:04:51.618 I realize how important it is to actually create time to be 00:04:51.618 --> 00:04:53.712 present with your kids because. 00:04:53.803 --> 00:04:55.123 It can feel really stressful. 00:04:55.123 --> 00:04:58.183 There's a lot of stuff to do, lots of cleanup, lots of 00:04:58.203 --> 00:05:00.273 sort of toddler maintenance. 00:05:00.449 --> 00:05:02.759 What have you during the time that you spend with them. 00:05:02.759 --> 00:05:06.507 And I was, when we went on vacation in Hawaii, we had a nanny with us 00:05:06.507 --> 00:05:10.538 and I was able to have dedicated time with my toddler, and I 00:05:10.538 --> 00:05:11.948 realized, oh, this is really nice. 00:05:11.953 --> 00:05:15.301 I wasn't thinking about housework, I wasn't thinking about what came next. 00:05:15.306 --> 00:05:17.581 I just was able to be present with her and I was like, oh, I 00:05:17.581 --> 00:05:19.111 actually like hanging out with you. 00:05:21.148 --> 00:05:25.218 And so I realized, that needs to be part of my life on a regular basis. 00:05:25.341 --> 00:05:29.541 So that started the wheels of motion of like, well, how is my week gonna work? 00:05:29.541 --> 00:05:33.616 How can I structure things so that I can really move things off my 00:05:33.616 --> 00:05:37.590 plate so that when I'm with my kids, I can actually be with my kids and 00:05:37.590 --> 00:05:42.201 be present and also have separate time away from my kids so that I can 00:05:42.201 --> 00:05:44.871 actually enjoy the work that I'm doing. 00:05:45.490 --> 00:05:47.345 Kara Cutruzzula: you know, we've known each other a long time 00:05:47.345 --> 00:05:48.981 and you really love your work. 00:05:49.004 --> 00:05:51.494 it's just a really important part of your life. 00:05:51.494 --> 00:05:55.583 And I can't help but think, 10 years ago, five years ago, how different. 00:05:56.123 --> 00:05:57.683 Your day was structured. 00:05:57.764 --> 00:06:01.944 and what sort of lessons that you maybe learned, you know, either going 00:06:01.949 --> 00:06:06.112 through med school or residency in how to manage your time, how to structure a 00:06:06.117 --> 00:06:10.931 day, did any of that help, during this also extremely busy part of your life? 00:06:11.454 --> 00:06:12.713 Aegean Chan Burnett: I do think so. 00:06:12.713 --> 00:06:17.148 I mean, I think before, you know, five, 10 years ago, I had the 00:06:17.148 --> 00:06:22.546 energy to really multitask a lot. 00:06:22.786 --> 00:06:27.229 So if I was making content, you know, I would be able to carve out 30 minutes 00:06:27.229 --> 00:06:31.677 in a day to do that, or you know, kind of answer emails between patients. 00:06:31.813 --> 00:06:36.888 But I've lately started realizing that that takes away from, I. 00:06:37.046 --> 00:06:41.156 My experience and my attention in a way that I don't like. 00:06:41.252 --> 00:06:46.005 So for example, even just a couple years ago, I would just make content in between 00:06:46.010 --> 00:06:50.643 seeing patients during my clinic day or kind of late at night before going to bed. 00:06:50.699 --> 00:06:53.579 And I realized that that was really burning me out. 00:06:53.579 --> 00:06:55.919 That made me not enjoy creating content. 00:06:56.182 --> 00:06:58.258 I was just doing it for the sake of doing it. 00:06:58.306 --> 00:06:59.986 And it also took away from. 00:07:00.064 --> 00:07:04.335 Being present for my patients, being present in the clinic with my 00:07:04.335 --> 00:07:07.875 staff and being able to manage all the things that are going on there. 00:07:08.002 --> 00:07:13.312 once I was visualizing this schedule for once I'm back from maternity leave, 00:07:13.317 --> 00:07:17.161 I was like, I need to have dedicated time for social media things so that I. 00:07:17.235 --> 00:07:21.016 When I'm in clinic, I'm in clinic, I'm with my patients and I can be fully 00:07:21.016 --> 00:07:25.738 present there, and I've found myself enjoying the time that I spend doing 00:07:25.743 --> 00:07:27.268 the irrespective things that I do. 00:07:27.329 --> 00:07:31.450 I enjoy that time so much more because I'm able to focus, and I think when 00:07:31.455 --> 00:07:32.950 you have kids, you're sleep deprived. 00:07:32.950 --> 00:07:36.210 It's just harder to do, you know, five things at once and 00:07:36.210 --> 00:07:37.747 still feel good about them. 00:07:37.968 --> 00:07:40.260 Kara Cutruzzula: And you know, you do have, you know, 00:07:40.260 --> 00:07:42.840 36,000 followers on Instagram. 00:07:42.840 --> 00:07:44.760 You have, you give such great advice. 00:07:44.765 --> 00:07:47.221 You have fun videos, you have fun infographics. 00:07:47.221 --> 00:07:50.506 And I look at this and I'm like, how does she make all of this? 00:07:50.716 --> 00:07:53.032 And so I guess I'm wondering how. 00:07:53.447 --> 00:07:57.689 Has it added to your life and your work and career in a way that has made you 00:07:57.739 --> 00:07:59.689 see that it's worth it to take that time? 00:08:00.093 --> 00:08:04.305 Aegean Chan Burnett: So it kind of came out of this enjoyment that I 00:08:04.305 --> 00:08:09.002 got from educating people about a lot of the misinformation out there, 00:08:09.002 --> 00:08:12.667 the popular, news, media coverage of skincare and what you should 00:08:12.667 --> 00:08:14.167 be doing and should not be doing. 00:08:14.247 --> 00:08:17.697 It was really satisfying for me to be like, actually that's not the case. 00:08:18.262 --> 00:08:21.279 Be able to provide evidence and, and help people in a very 00:08:21.279 --> 00:08:23.439 practical way, their skincare. 00:08:24.141 --> 00:08:29.144 And I really enjoyed interfacing with the community of people that 00:08:29.144 --> 00:08:30.824 started following my content. 00:08:30.824 --> 00:08:31.904 It's been really wonderful. 00:08:31.904 --> 00:08:35.386 I've met a lot of wonderful people, as well as, you know, colleagues, other 00:08:35.391 --> 00:08:37.246 dermatologists, cosmetic chemists. 00:08:37.576 --> 00:08:41.356 So that part is really, really fulfilling to me and that's why I keep 00:08:41.356 --> 00:08:45.285 doing it because I do feel like the information I'm putting out there has 00:08:45.285 --> 00:08:47.265 been really useful to a lot of people. 00:08:47.361 --> 00:08:48.831 and it's interesting because. 00:08:48.906 --> 00:08:53.256 What I talk about on social media is not what I do during my clinic day. 00:08:53.429 --> 00:08:56.891 When I'm seeing patients in person, I'm dealing with a lot of more medical 00:08:56.896 --> 00:09:01.389 issues, more personalized skin issues for people, and I don't necessarily 00:09:01.389 --> 00:09:06.613 have the time to delve into questions about why parabens are actually not bad. 00:09:07.213 --> 00:09:12.334 You know, why clean beauty is, you know, just full of informa misinformation and. 00:09:12.414 --> 00:09:15.822 More of a marketing trend and, and all of those things I think are really 00:09:15.822 --> 00:09:19.723 important and are things that people are exposed to a lot in popular culture. 00:09:19.880 --> 00:09:24.843 So it's kind of a way to, to use both parts of my dermatology brain, And 00:09:24.843 --> 00:09:30.156 it's, and especially sharing my motherhood journey and interweaving 00:09:30.156 --> 00:09:33.543 the experience I've had, you know, and all the misinformation I've 00:09:33.543 --> 00:09:37.350 encountered in that aspect also has gotten a lot of great response. 00:09:37.380 --> 00:09:40.421 'cause I think a lot of women are feeling that there's a void in 00:09:40.421 --> 00:09:41.951 terms of that information out there. 00:09:41.956 --> 00:09:46.177 So it's been nice to be somebody that can provide accurate information 00:09:46.177 --> 00:09:47.660 for people with that regard. 00:09:48.170 --> 00:09:51.181 Kara Cutruzzula: so when you post something, you could be up until 00:09:51.241 --> 00:09:55.303 midnight, you know, answering people and even creating more content As 00:09:55.303 --> 00:09:58.813 much time as you wanna put into it is as much time as it will take up. 00:09:58.851 --> 00:10:04.144 So do you have boundaries set around like, okay, I am going to respond to people 00:10:04.144 --> 00:10:08.778 during this set period of time, because I have these other important things to do. 00:10:08.953 --> 00:10:10.363 Aegean Chan Burnett: Oh my goodness, yes. 00:10:10.493 --> 00:10:14.531 I, I actually, I don't spend that much time on the platform. 00:10:14.711 --> 00:10:16.661 I essentially spend a couple hours a week. 00:10:16.686 --> 00:10:18.114 Doing content, some weeks. 00:10:18.114 --> 00:10:21.474 I can only get out one post, but my goal is to do two posts 00:10:21.474 --> 00:10:23.364 a week, which I think in. 00:10:23.512 --> 00:10:27.729 The world of people that are really trying to optimize their feeds. 00:10:27.729 --> 00:10:30.009 I think that's really counterintuitive. 00:10:30.429 --> 00:10:33.069 What I've heard is that you really should be posting multiple times 00:10:33.069 --> 00:10:35.229 a day, which seems wild to me. 00:10:35.709 --> 00:10:40.576 Um, but I only go for two posts but I try to make them relatively high quality. 00:10:40.791 --> 00:10:44.561 know, I wanna make sure that, that it has at least one piece of useful information, 00:10:44.577 --> 00:10:47.803 for people, but also not too complex. 00:10:47.839 --> 00:10:49.301 That it'll get lost. 00:10:49.440 --> 00:10:52.560 it's kind of a balance of this is useful, but it's also bite-sized 00:10:52.560 --> 00:10:57.082 enough that, you know, somebody swiping and has 10 seconds of attention can 00:10:57.082 --> 00:10:58.582 gain something useful out of it. 00:10:58.609 --> 00:11:02.389 And then in terms of, you know, not letting it take over my, my life, 00:11:02.623 --> 00:11:07.033 I think last year I decided to not even open the app after 8:00 PM. 00:11:07.386 --> 00:11:09.126 Kara Cutruzzula: Ooh, I love this boundary, 00:11:09.364 --> 00:11:13.804 Aegean Chan Burnett: I mean, I'm too tired and so my, my evenings, you know, 00:11:13.804 --> 00:11:17.300 sometimes I, I'll do some admin, you know, I'll be like, I'm gonna reply to 00:11:17.300 --> 00:11:21.496 these four emails and I'm gonna, make the schedule for my staff and do that kind 00:11:21.496 --> 00:11:23.626 of computer work where I have set tasks. 00:11:23.879 --> 00:11:28.352 But I won't just open my computer or open up Instagram after I put 00:11:28.352 --> 00:11:30.452 the girls to bed and cruise around. 00:11:30.626 --> 00:11:32.486 I have to have a reason to do it. 00:11:32.621 --> 00:11:35.602 um, that's really helped me because I think the pull of the 00:11:35.602 --> 00:11:37.855 vortex at night is very strong. 00:11:38.006 --> 00:11:39.551 It's hard to get out of it. 00:11:39.956 --> 00:11:40.466 Kara Cutruzzula: Yes. 00:11:40.466 --> 00:11:45.596 It's suddenly just like I'm exhausted and yet I can't stop scrolling. 00:11:45.834 --> 00:11:49.666 Aegean Chan Burnett: for me at least late at night, I'm less kind of in 00:11:49.671 --> 00:11:52.348 tune with regulating my emotions. 00:11:52.578 --> 00:11:57.268 So that was why I, I picked the 8:00 PM is that I found myself at night, I would be 00:11:57.268 --> 00:11:59.938 much more prone to those feelings of fomo. 00:12:00.167 --> 00:12:02.087 And sort of spiral a little bit. 00:12:02.087 --> 00:12:04.187 And I've heard this from a lot of people too. 00:12:04.457 --> 00:12:07.247 And I think it's just easier for me during the day to regulate 00:12:07.247 --> 00:12:09.475 that stuff and keep it moving. 00:12:09.633 --> 00:12:12.633 Whereas at night, you know, you can kind of get into a thought spiral 00:12:12.753 --> 00:12:14.643 that might not be the healthiest place 00:12:14.800 --> 00:12:17.238 Kara Cutruzzula: well, it sounds like a really clear boundary, 00:12:17.238 --> 00:12:19.456 that you have around social media. 00:12:19.456 --> 00:12:23.400 And looking at the rest of, you know, the rest of your admin day today, do you 00:12:23.400 --> 00:12:28.086 have any other tools that will help you move through, the emails, the meetings, 00:12:28.151 --> 00:12:32.515 You know, bouncing between commitments, like are there any digital tools, physical 00:12:32.515 --> 00:12:36.003 tools or emotional ones that you'll sort of lean on, throughout the day? 00:12:36.685 --> 00:12:38.810 Aegean Chan Burnett: honestly, the to-do list. 00:12:38.846 --> 00:12:40.016 is my best friend. 00:12:40.106 --> 00:12:44.456 And the calendar, if something's not on the calendar, it doesn't exist. 00:12:44.566 --> 00:12:50.102 So especially since I've had my second kid, I've really had to be diligent 00:12:50.162 --> 00:12:52.343 about putting things on the calendar. 00:12:52.343 --> 00:12:55.976 And I actually have to confess, I rescheduled a dentist appointment 00:12:55.981 --> 00:12:59.306 for my daughter because last week was my first week back. 00:12:59.306 --> 00:13:00.656 I was like, oh, it's gonna be too crazy. 00:13:00.656 --> 00:13:01.646 I have to reschedule it. 00:13:02.171 --> 00:13:06.418 I forgot that I rescheduled it and I never took off the old 00:13:06.418 --> 00:13:10.079 appointment on the calendar, so I, I showed up with both kids in toe 00:13:10.709 --> 00:13:15.617 at the dentist's office, and so it just showed me, I was like, oh my goodness. 00:13:15.617 --> 00:13:20.537 Like I literally have no more brain capacity to remember things on my own, 00:13:20.728 --> 00:13:22.682 I live and die by the calendar. 00:13:22.832 --> 00:13:24.572 Kara Cutruzzula: did they get you in or did you have to come 00:13:24.572 --> 00:13:25.982 back for the other appointment? 00:13:26.327 --> 00:13:28.877 Aegean Chan Burnett: No, I mean, she was busy, so I just 00:13:28.882 --> 00:13:30.527 kind of backed out of the door. 00:13:30.527 --> 00:13:31.727 I was like, my bad. 00:13:31.987 --> 00:13:33.392 I walked around the block with Sophia. 00:13:33.392 --> 00:13:36.542 I was like, sorry, dude, while we're coming back in a couple weeks. 00:13:36.751 --> 00:13:42.241 you know, but it just made me realize how much I rely on the calendar. 00:13:42.691 --> 00:13:46.111 And then the other tool that I've really found useful is the Apple Watch. 00:13:46.501 --> 00:13:52.927 I didn't have one before I had kits because I was never a watch person and 00:13:52.927 --> 00:13:56.561 I never, I was one of those people that would leave my phone at the house for 00:13:56.566 --> 00:14:00.731 hours, you know, if I went on a walk to go get a coffee, my like luxury 00:14:00.736 --> 00:14:04.121 would be to leave my phone at the house and just be completely unplugged. 00:14:04.388 --> 00:14:05.608 with kids, you can't do that. 00:14:06.101 --> 00:14:09.541 And you know, if Mark, my, my husband wants to reach me, needs to 00:14:09.541 --> 00:14:13.022 reach me for something, you know, so having the watch actually freed 00:14:13.022 --> 00:14:15.803 me from being tied to my phone. 00:14:15.808 --> 00:14:18.023 So before I got the watch, I would have this anxiety of 00:14:18.023 --> 00:14:19.283 like, oh, where's my phone? 00:14:19.556 --> 00:14:22.496 And with the watch, now I can run after my kids. 00:14:22.703 --> 00:14:27.175 I know that if somebody needs to reach me, I'll get it on my, on my wrist. 00:14:27.175 --> 00:14:30.505 And so I have it limited, so I'm not getting a ton of notifications. 00:14:30.575 --> 00:14:33.635 So it's really just for text messaging and getting phone calls, 00:14:33.716 --> 00:14:37.766 and setting timers because toddlers need timers to move through the day. 00:14:37.886 --> 00:14:43.163 So I, I think that's really the tool that I utilize the most, during the day. 00:14:43.163 --> 00:14:45.593 And it actually, yeah, gives me a lot of freedom and makes me 00:14:45.593 --> 00:14:47.093 feel like I can be more present. 00:14:47.928 --> 00:14:48.503 Kara Cutruzzula: I love that. 00:14:48.508 --> 00:14:52.253 I feel like that's the best advertisement I've heard for the Apple Watch. 00:14:52.343 --> 00:14:52.793 Um, 00:14:52.913 --> 00:14:53.813 Aegean Chan Burnett: paying me anything. 00:14:54.653 --> 00:14:55.389 Kara Cutruzzula: maybe soon. 00:14:55.551 --> 00:14:59.506 so this is your admin day, and I was just wondering like, what will feel 00:14:59.506 --> 00:15:03.935 like a successful day, like when you're sort of winding down is it 00:15:03.941 --> 00:15:05.771 crossing everything off the to-do list? 00:15:05.776 --> 00:15:09.726 Is it sort of moving through things without, Overly being stressed out. 00:15:09.726 --> 00:15:15.058 Like what does, what does like a really positive, full day feel like in your life. 00:15:15.297 --> 00:15:15.864 Aegean Chan Burnett: I think. 00:15:16.023 --> 00:15:20.373 When, when those happen, when I can get most of the things done off of my to-do 00:15:20.373 --> 00:15:24.720 list, while not being hurried, while not being stressed, and being able to be 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:30.075 present for each task, that definitely does make for a day that feels like 00:15:30.075 --> 00:15:34.335 I've accomplished something and um, you know, I'm able to rest at night. 00:15:34.365 --> 00:15:37.316 I think that's, for me, the reward is when. 00:15:37.364 --> 00:15:40.454 I feel like I've done enough that, you know, from eight to 10:00 PM 00:15:40.454 --> 00:15:44.778 I can sit and watch a show or read a book and not do anything at all. 00:15:45.421 --> 00:15:48.905 but I think an important thing to keep in mind is when you're making your 00:15:48.905 --> 00:15:51.155 to-do list, to do it in a realistic way. 00:15:51.583 --> 00:15:54.493 so when people make to-do lists, you know, I do this too. 00:15:55.033 --> 00:15:56.473 I put on too many things. 00:15:56.473 --> 00:16:00.073 I found that I was putting on too many things, so I never had that feeling 00:16:00.073 --> 00:16:01.633 because I never felt like I did enough. 00:16:01.744 --> 00:16:05.284 And then once I started making more realistic to-do lists that really only 00:16:05.284 --> 00:16:07.084 had three things on them for the day. 00:16:07.563 --> 00:16:11.535 Then that's when I was able to have that feeling at night that felt 00:16:11.535 --> 00:16:13.455 like I had accomplished something. 00:16:13.546 --> 00:16:17.446 and then also the concept, this kind of ties into the concept, especially 00:16:17.446 --> 00:16:20.746 once your responsibilities grow and you're taking care of tiny humans. 00:16:21.797 --> 00:16:25.040 and I cannot remember why I heard this quote, but you know, all of your 00:16:25.040 --> 00:16:29.750 responsibilities are either glass balls or plastic balls that are up 00:16:29.750 --> 00:16:34.457 in the air and you just have to be okay with the plastic balls falling. 00:16:34.657 --> 00:16:34.687 Kara Cutruzzula: Mm. 00:16:34.980 --> 00:16:38.400 Aegean Chan Burnett: So once I took that mentality, I'm like, okay, my job 00:16:38.400 --> 00:16:43.215 is to keep the glass balls up in the air and if the other non-essential, 00:16:43.215 --> 00:16:47.055 non-critical things fall to the wayside and somebody has to send 00:16:47.055 --> 00:16:49.725 me a reminder email, that's okay. 00:16:50.115 --> 00:16:53.745 It doesn't mean I'm a failure as a person, doesn't mean I did a bad job. 00:16:54.225 --> 00:16:55.605 It just is. 00:16:56.048 --> 00:17:01.328 Um, and that really has helped a lot of that negative self-talk that I think. 00:17:01.421 --> 00:17:05.441 can consume you when you're a really busy person because it's just impossible 00:17:05.568 --> 00:17:07.971 to do everything in a timely fashion. 00:17:08.491 --> 00:17:12.396 Kara Cutruzzula: What an amazing, clear metaphor I think for everyone. 00:17:12.485 --> 00:17:15.886 Just that acceptance it's okay if some will fall. 00:17:15.886 --> 00:17:17.830 I think that that will be really helpful. 00:17:17.882 --> 00:17:20.778 and like you said, finding yourself at the end of the day, like 00:17:20.778 --> 00:17:23.298 you've accomplished the things that you've wanted to accomplish. 00:17:23.303 --> 00:17:26.328 You didn't overextend but you didn't feel like you were disappointing 00:17:26.328 --> 00:17:27.407 yourself or anyone else. 00:17:27.498 --> 00:17:30.815 how do you unwind and prepare for the next day? 00:17:31.698 --> 00:17:34.698 Aegean Chan Burnett: it's hard because depending on how long it takes me 00:17:34.698 --> 00:17:39.172 to get my kids down, and I'm also currently breastfeeding and pumping, 00:17:39.345 --> 00:17:42.015 so that's also basically a second. 00:17:42.015 --> 00:17:43.505 Part to full-time job. 00:17:43.612 --> 00:17:49.275 it really, I think I maybe have about an hour to myself at night, and honestly, 00:17:49.275 --> 00:17:51.705 right now is the golden age of television. 00:17:51.975 --> 00:17:54.748 We have succession, we have yellow jackets. 00:17:54.778 --> 00:17:55.858 Love is blind. 00:17:55.858 --> 00:17:57.688 I mean, we got the full gamut. 00:17:57.989 --> 00:18:00.599 the more mindless reality tv, it is. 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:05.585 That's my true kind of guilty pleasure where I can just turn off my brain. 00:18:05.659 --> 00:18:09.022 just watch and enjoy the dynamics that are going on on 00:18:09.022 --> 00:18:11.452 the TV is no consequence to me. 00:18:11.509 --> 00:18:13.759 That's probably my biggest guilty pleasure. 00:18:14.017 --> 00:18:16.997 And it's funny 'cause my husband, he's always like, you're such a smart person. 00:18:17.297 --> 00:18:19.007 Why, why are you watching all this? 00:18:19.007 --> 00:18:22.217 But I've heard from a lot of people that really enjoy, 00:18:22.217 --> 00:18:24.857 particularly trashy reality tv. 00:18:25.027 --> 00:18:26.977 They're very high functioning people. 00:18:27.057 --> 00:18:29.877 and that seems to be an escape for a lot of people. 00:18:29.877 --> 00:18:30.327 So 00:18:30.356 --> 00:18:31.654 I'm gonna go on record. 00:18:32.629 --> 00:18:34.639 Kara Cutruzzula: go on record as Love is Blind. 00:18:34.699 --> 00:18:36.379 Uh, fan girl. 00:18:36.739 --> 00:18:37.399 Uh, yeah. 00:18:37.404 --> 00:18:40.039 Well, you know, you don't have to follow complex storylines. 00:18:40.039 --> 00:18:41.599 You don't have to think too deeply. 00:18:41.599 --> 00:18:44.137 You know, there's a time and place well, I feel like. 00:18:44.137 --> 00:18:48.736 I'm going to get angry emails if I don't ask you, what your skincare 00:18:48.736 --> 00:18:50.956 routine looks like during the day. 00:18:50.992 --> 00:18:54.636 because you are the only person who's ever convinced me to wear sunscreen, 00:18:54.641 --> 00:18:58.136 so I, I have to thank you for that a hundred times over two finger 00:18:58.196 --> 00:18:59.816 lengths full of sunscreen, right? 00:18:59.816 --> 00:19:00.326 Every day. 00:19:00.656 --> 00:19:05.551 Um, I, I listen, I listen to you, and so, what does your skincare 00:19:05.551 --> 00:19:07.651 routine look like during the day? 00:19:07.851 --> 00:19:08.571 Aegean Chan Burnett: Oh boy. 00:19:08.601 --> 00:19:12.998 Well, it is not complex at all and you know me. 00:19:13.058 --> 00:19:14.108 Less is more. 00:19:14.166 --> 00:19:15.509 the more simple. 00:19:15.521 --> 00:19:16.871 It can be the better. 00:19:16.931 --> 00:19:20.471 And again, when there's, I have no privacy either. 00:19:20.741 --> 00:19:24.391 My two and a half year old is usually in the bathroom with me. 00:19:24.391 --> 00:19:27.571 Maybe there's also a baby sitting in a bouncer at the floor. 00:19:28.201 --> 00:19:30.781 So my morning skin routine is pretty quick. 00:19:30.781 --> 00:19:35.378 I basically just wash, um, I have been testing out some vitamin C serum, 00:19:35.638 --> 00:19:39.685 so I'll slap that on and then I'll put moisturizer and sunscreen on. 00:19:39.685 --> 00:19:41.684 So that probably takes me about, I. 00:19:42.678 --> 00:19:47.123 In total, And then at night it's pretty much the same, but instead of a vitamin 00:19:47.123 --> 00:19:52.220 C serum, I'll either use a retinoid or I've been using lactic acid lately, 00:19:52.220 --> 00:19:54.230 so I'll alternate between those two. 00:19:54.386 --> 00:19:56.996 I'll use sometimes a hyaluronic acid serum. 00:19:56.996 --> 00:19:58.766 I've been feeling really dry lately. 00:19:58.946 --> 00:20:02.186 so I'll do that and then I'll use a thicker moisturizer on top. 00:20:02.186 --> 00:20:04.016 So usually either Cetaphil cream. 00:20:04.025 --> 00:20:08.286 Or I've been really liking the Laroche Poe Saplat balm. 00:20:08.629 --> 00:20:12.489 it really seals and everything, so when I wake up, my face feels really 00:20:12.489 --> 00:20:14.699 hydrated, and ready to go for the day. 00:20:14.699 --> 00:20:18.372 So it actually took me longer to describe it to you that it 00:20:18.372 --> 00:20:19.859 actually takes me to do it. 00:20:20.009 --> 00:20:22.319 So it's pretty, pretty straightforward. 00:20:23.072 --> 00:20:24.572 Kara Cutruzzula: No, I, I, I just love you. 00:20:24.572 --> 00:20:27.819 You talk about this a lot, on Instagram and your website and, 00:20:27.819 --> 00:20:31.202 and wonderful newsletter that, it doesn't have to be complex. 00:20:31.207 --> 00:20:34.946 Like often we make things more complicated, than they need to be. 00:20:34.951 --> 00:20:38.809 And for something that is, easily replicated day to day and 00:20:38.809 --> 00:20:42.002 that feels like something you can maintain, Simple is better. 00:20:42.062 --> 00:20:45.672 So, uh, I just really love that piece of advice, both for your skin and 00:20:45.672 --> 00:20:47.592 also how we move through the days. 00:20:47.592 --> 00:20:47.952 Right. 00:20:47.996 --> 00:20:52.179 it sounds like you have a really smart system that works for you Involving 00:20:52.179 --> 00:20:56.049 lots of boundaries and things that I'm totally gonna steal for my own life. 00:20:56.109 --> 00:21:00.465 Uh, so thank you for bringing us into, your day and I hope we 00:21:00.465 --> 00:21:02.771 can actually hang out, uh, soon 00:21:03.053 --> 00:21:04.273 Aegean Chan Burnett: I would love that. 00:21:04.279 --> 00:21:06.131 Kara Cutruzzula: thank you so much for, taking the time. 00:21:06.173 --> 00:21:07.043 Aegean Chan Burnett: Thank you.