1 00:00:00,367 --> 00:00:02,936 Oh, man, I am fired up. 2 00:00:02,936 --> 00:00:04,938 Yeah, yeah, I'm just excited. 3 00:00:04,938 --> 00:00:08,041 You know, I love hanging out with you and love, you know, hanging out with you. 4 00:00:08,041 --> 00:00:12,846 And welcome to another edition of What's Good with John and Joyce. 5 00:00:14,114 --> 00:00:15,348 It's our 30 minutes. 6 00:00:15,348 --> 00:00:18,685 Each and every week we can get away from all the bias 7 00:00:18,685 --> 00:00:21,688 and all the negativity out there in the world and just kind of 8 00:00:22,122 --> 00:00:25,125 okay, there's a place I can go to for a little respite, a little escape. 9 00:00:25,792 --> 00:00:26,092 Yeah. 10 00:00:26,092 --> 00:00:29,095 Are you I like, 11 00:00:29,129 --> 00:00:33,199 I know, mellow, I do, I am yeah. 12 00:00:33,199 --> 00:00:37,037 I mean I probably, probably cuz I worked out got the endorphins going. 13 00:00:43,143 --> 00:00:45,378 But you like to work out at night, don't you? 14 00:00:45,378 --> 00:00:48,014 And I work out first thing in the morning and just. 15 00:00:50,316 --> 00:00:51,551 I'm brain dead all the time. 16 00:00:51,551 --> 00:00:52,886 Don't you agree with that? No. 17 00:00:52,886 --> 00:00:53,987 My wife's going. Oh, yeah? 18 00:00:53,987 --> 00:00:56,990 Oh, yeah. 19 00:00:58,758 --> 00:01:00,360 Yeah, yeah, 20 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,829 I wake up, you know, my hair is all sticking up. 21 00:01:02,829 --> 00:01:06,132 All right, I don't know, we're, You're still adorable, Joyce. 22 00:01:06,132 --> 00:01:06,800 Come on now. 23 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:07,267 Come on. 24 00:01:07,267 --> 00:01:09,002 Nighttime. I'm all fired up. 25 00:01:09,002 --> 00:01:11,304 You guys are going to bed, right? 26 00:01:11,304 --> 00:01:14,074 I remember the days, you know, when I would rock and roll all night. 27 00:01:14,074 --> 00:01:16,910 Like the song by kiss rock and party every day. 28 00:01:16,910 --> 00:01:20,547 You'd be out till one, two in the morning and then wake up a few hours later, 29 00:01:20,547 --> 00:01:23,750 go to work and actually still perform your duties and do well. 30 00:01:24,184 --> 00:01:26,052 It doesn't work so much nowadays. 31 00:01:26,052 --> 00:01:28,221 I think it's because we get smarter. 32 00:01:28,221 --> 00:01:29,389 Yeah, we do something. 33 00:01:29,389 --> 00:01:32,358 I never like going to clubs ever. 34 00:01:32,358 --> 00:01:35,228 Because you have to scream to hear, oh yes, 35 00:01:36,362 --> 00:01:36,930 right. 36 00:01:36,930 --> 00:01:39,399 I've learned to speak with people who like. 37 00:01:39,399 --> 00:01:41,367 So hey, Joyce, you know what's going on today? 38 00:01:41,367 --> 00:01:42,535 Oh, sorry about that, Stephanie. 39 00:01:42,535 --> 00:01:45,238 In the back in the directors room back there. 40 00:01:45,238 --> 00:01:46,806 I never enjoyed that. 41 00:01:46,806 --> 00:01:49,008 I guess I'm just always the chatter, right? 42 00:01:49,008 --> 00:01:51,544 Yeah. I like to talk to people. 43 00:01:51,544 --> 00:01:55,148 I've being in the radio biz and performing with the DJ biz. 44 00:01:55,715 --> 00:01:57,517 I was always back in the early days. 45 00:01:57,517 --> 00:01:59,119 I was in clubs all the time. 46 00:01:59,119 --> 00:02:01,221 And you're right, I had to be in clubs. 47 00:02:01,221 --> 00:02:04,724 But I didn't really enjoy going to a club as much 48 00:02:05,024 --> 00:02:08,027 because like you, I like to be able to have a conversation. 49 00:02:08,128 --> 00:02:09,829 Costas, I like going to like a 50 00:02:09,829 --> 00:02:12,398 like a hall, like some of the theaters around here I like, 51 00:02:12,398 --> 00:02:14,901 but the club ambiance is a little bit different. But 52 00:02:16,102 --> 00:02:17,637 you're here with it. 53 00:02:17,637 --> 00:02:20,640 Just so you say that my hearing is actually it. 54 00:02:20,740 --> 00:02:23,143 I don't know how this happens, but it seems to have gotten better. 55 00:02:23,143 --> 00:02:23,877 Okay. 56 00:02:23,877 --> 00:02:27,413 I mean, I could be doing a DJ gig, Joyce, and people could be talking on the floor, 57 00:02:27,647 --> 00:02:29,449 and I hear everything they're saying, 58 00:02:29,449 --> 00:02:31,518 and I get on the microphone and said, I heard that. 59 00:02:31,518 --> 00:02:33,386 How did you hear that? 60 00:02:33,386 --> 00:02:33,920 Right. 61 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:37,323 It's for SB that's right, that's right. 62 00:02:37,323 --> 00:02:39,826 I got my shoe, phone and everything. 63 00:02:39,826 --> 00:02:42,829 Maxwell Smart, though 64 00:02:43,196 --> 00:02:45,798 it does. 65 00:02:45,798 --> 00:02:47,033 Juice. 66 00:02:47,033 --> 00:02:48,067 Oh, man. 67 00:02:48,067 --> 00:02:50,370 So what are we what are we talking about today, Joyce? 68 00:02:50,370 --> 00:02:52,939 I think about starting your fears, Yeah. 69 00:02:52,939 --> 00:02:53,573 We we? 70 00:02:53,573 --> 00:02:57,510 Yes, we are going to talk about that today because based on your book, 71 00:02:57,510 --> 00:02:59,512 I mean, why don't you hold up that book so people can see it? 72 00:02:59,512 --> 00:03:01,814 You need to get this book if you don't have it already. 73 00:03:01,814 --> 00:03:04,217 I wrote this book for all of us. 74 00:03:04,217 --> 00:03:08,588 You know, a few years ago, just before Covid. 75 00:03:09,289 --> 00:03:13,092 But, the reason why I wanted to write that book 76 00:03:13,092 --> 00:03:16,262 is because there's a lot of books that's been written about, 77 00:03:17,197 --> 00:03:19,832 anxiety and stress, 78 00:03:19,832 --> 00:03:22,835 and some of it gets very technical, 79 00:03:22,835 --> 00:03:26,206 you know, like how the brain works and all that which is which is fine. 80 00:03:26,839 --> 00:03:30,176 But I thought, I was coming from a different place 81 00:03:30,176 --> 00:03:33,179 because I lived this. 82 00:03:33,479 --> 00:03:36,182 And first of all, I lived it with my mom, 83 00:03:36,182 --> 00:03:39,752 and I didn't know that she had phobia. 84 00:03:40,186 --> 00:03:43,156 And I don't even know that they use that word. 85 00:03:43,156 --> 00:03:44,023 What does that mean? 86 00:03:44,023 --> 00:03:45,225 The definition for those 87 00:03:45,225 --> 00:03:49,762 who really comes from the Greek word meaning fear of the market place. 88 00:03:51,464 --> 00:03:53,900 But it's not really 89 00:03:53,900 --> 00:03:57,237 the fear of going out or the fear of socializing. 90 00:03:57,503 --> 00:04:00,607 It could be that you're having panic attacks while you're sitting at home. 91 00:04:00,607 --> 00:04:04,844 Yeah, it's really a misfiring of, 92 00:04:06,145 --> 00:04:09,148 your, you know, like, what makes you anxious? 93 00:04:09,315 --> 00:04:12,619 It's the, you know, cortisol, baby. 94 00:04:13,219 --> 00:04:15,154 Adrenaline. Yeah. 95 00:04:15,154 --> 00:04:18,157 And sometimes with some people, they're just. 96 00:04:18,891 --> 00:04:20,059 Here's the good news about it. 97 00:04:20,059 --> 00:04:22,595 The good news is highly creative. 98 00:04:22,595 --> 00:04:26,366 People get this right, and your brain sometimes 99 00:04:26,366 --> 00:04:30,970 is working on overload, and you're very fast to do things. 100 00:04:30,970 --> 00:04:34,040 You know, I was always like, a fast walker or fast 101 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,043 talker or whatever, but, 102 00:04:37,910 --> 00:04:39,245 you know, everyone's different. 103 00:04:39,245 --> 00:04:41,114 It's sort of like the thumbprint. 104 00:04:41,114 --> 00:04:44,117 Everyone can experience it differently. 105 00:04:44,183 --> 00:04:46,853 As an example, my 106 00:04:46,853 --> 00:04:49,789 so my mother always had this, did not know she had it. 107 00:04:50,823 --> 00:04:53,526 She was a great mom because she was home. 108 00:04:53,526 --> 00:04:58,097 Mom didn't drive because she was afraid to drive and she baked. 109 00:04:58,231 --> 00:05:00,500 So she taught me how to bake. 110 00:05:00,500 --> 00:05:02,568 This woman is, like, the best baker on the planet. 111 00:05:02,568 --> 00:05:05,571 No, no, I think I have, 112 00:05:07,974 --> 00:05:09,409 I just love to do it. 113 00:05:09,409 --> 00:05:12,612 So my mother was very nurturing that way. 114 00:05:13,379 --> 00:05:16,049 But, there were times as a teenager especially, 115 00:05:16,049 --> 00:05:19,552 is very upset with her that she was doing certain things. 116 00:05:19,552 --> 00:05:22,555 And I didn't know that it was because of that. 117 00:05:23,156 --> 00:05:27,660 Then in my early 20s, I was walking into 118 00:05:27,660 --> 00:05:30,663 what is now a big, wide Branchburg, 119 00:05:31,431 --> 00:05:34,834 and suddenly it just looked like the floor was tilting 120 00:05:35,501 --> 00:05:39,005 and I felt like my heart began to race, like I was going to faint. 121 00:05:40,239 --> 00:05:42,742 I didn't know what was happening to me. 122 00:05:42,742 --> 00:05:46,379 And to make a long story short, I began having panic attacks 123 00:05:47,714 --> 00:05:51,351 and I didn't know how to really deal with this. 124 00:05:52,618 --> 00:05:55,488 My mother sought help for herself, 125 00:05:55,488 --> 00:05:58,891 but her doctor at the time said, quote, 126 00:05:59,826 --> 00:06:04,464 what you need is a kick in the ass, okay? 127 00:06:04,697 --> 00:06:06,799 And you need to go out and get a job. 128 00:06:06,799 --> 00:06:09,769 Well, she could barely leave her house. 129 00:06:09,769 --> 00:06:11,871 So many people would just poo poo it back in the day. 130 00:06:11,871 --> 00:06:13,773 Like, you know, suck it up type thing. 131 00:06:13,773 --> 00:06:17,510 But this is a real, real serious situation. 132 00:06:18,177 --> 00:06:21,080 This is a very serious situation 133 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,984 when you don't know how to deal with it, when you realize what it is 134 00:06:26,519 --> 00:06:28,988 and you accept, it becomes easier. 135 00:06:28,988 --> 00:06:32,291 So I packed a bag 136 00:06:33,393 --> 00:06:36,396 and I'm in an appointment to see a psychiatrist, 137 00:06:36,529 --> 00:06:40,867 and my sister drove me to the psychiatrist in New Haven, Connecticut, 138 00:06:41,601 --> 00:06:44,837 and I thought, he's going to put me in a in a mental ward 139 00:06:45,538 --> 00:06:47,907 because I can't work. 140 00:06:47,907 --> 00:06:50,376 I can barely go out and get my mail. 141 00:06:50,376 --> 00:06:52,278 I feel like I'm going to die. 142 00:06:52,278 --> 00:06:53,946 But my heart's okay. 143 00:06:53,946 --> 00:06:56,048 I've been checked out. 144 00:06:56,048 --> 00:06:59,051 And I told him my whole story and he said, 145 00:07:00,253 --> 00:07:01,888 you are suffering 146 00:07:01,888 --> 00:07:04,891 with a generalized anxiety disorder. 147 00:07:05,057 --> 00:07:07,627 And he said, you have one of the best therapists 148 00:07:07,627 --> 00:07:11,597 for this in your own backyard at the Brantford Counseling Center. 149 00:07:12,665 --> 00:07:17,170 And even though it was a weight off of my shoulders 150 00:07:17,170 --> 00:07:20,540 and this, I didn't have to be institutionalized, 151 00:07:21,574 --> 00:07:23,676 I was still dealing with it. 152 00:07:23,676 --> 00:07:28,181 Certain people, when they hear that, they think they're better. 153 00:07:28,214 --> 00:07:30,149 Oh, I can deal with this now. 154 00:07:30,149 --> 00:07:32,351 But it wasn't going away. 155 00:07:32,351 --> 00:07:38,024 So I worked with this counselor for for many years, and she would say to me, 156 00:07:39,425 --> 00:07:41,494 acceptance, acceptance. 157 00:07:41,494 --> 00:07:44,564 And it wasn't really seeping in that 158 00:07:44,964 --> 00:07:47,633 this may never go away 159 00:07:47,633 --> 00:07:50,636 until you stop feeding it. 160 00:07:51,237 --> 00:07:52,972 Fear of it. 161 00:07:52,972 --> 00:07:56,375 The moment you start to feel that feeling again, if anyone out there 162 00:07:57,276 --> 00:08:00,279 has an anxiety disorder, 163 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,715 you understand that 164 00:08:02,715 --> 00:08:05,651 you would rather have a broken leg or a broken arm 165 00:08:05,651 --> 00:08:08,654 because people could see it and sympathize with it, 166 00:08:08,654 --> 00:08:11,958 but when they can't see it and you look normal, right? 167 00:08:12,191 --> 00:08:15,094 And you're always polite and you leave like a meeting 168 00:08:15,094 --> 00:08:18,097 and say, excuse me, I have to leave. 169 00:08:18,130 --> 00:08:19,932 They don't know what you're really going 170 00:08:19,932 --> 00:08:22,935 through inside, and it's difficult to explain it. 171 00:08:23,269 --> 00:08:26,239 I think it's a little easier now to to talk about it, 172 00:08:26,539 --> 00:08:30,009 but it's different from just saying I'm stressful. 173 00:08:30,409 --> 00:08:34,514 This is a panicky feeling that makes you feel like you're dying. 174 00:08:34,647 --> 00:08:37,116 And this is a lot more common than people think, isn't it? 175 00:08:37,116 --> 00:08:39,151 Yeah, especially in this day and age. Yes. 176 00:08:39,151 --> 00:08:43,756 Millions of people really, really silently suffering. 177 00:08:44,323 --> 00:08:45,258 Absolutely. 178 00:08:46,459 --> 00:08:48,995 So I went through all kinds 179 00:08:48,995 --> 00:08:53,065 of therapy and it said in this book, starving your fears. 180 00:08:53,065 --> 00:08:55,701 Like you said, don't feed the fear, starve the fear. 181 00:08:55,701 --> 00:08:57,370 That was a great piece of advice. 182 00:08:57,370 --> 00:08:59,105 You starved the fear. 183 00:08:59,105 --> 00:09:02,341 But first I went on my road of, I'm 184 00:09:02,341 --> 00:09:06,679 going to and I'm not putting down crystals and things like that. 185 00:09:06,879 --> 00:09:08,714 Everything has their place. 186 00:09:08,714 --> 00:09:10,850 But I was looking for a magic cure. 187 00:09:10,850 --> 00:09:13,686 And a lot of people told me that magic cure 188 00:09:13,686 --> 00:09:18,758 and whether it was a chiropractor that was going to adjust my neck to, 189 00:09:19,525 --> 00:09:22,528 to like either lying on crystal bends 190 00:09:22,528 --> 00:09:27,567 or whatever, I was waiting for the miracle because I wasn't understanding 191 00:09:28,100 --> 00:09:31,103 what my therapist had told me. 192 00:09:31,103 --> 00:09:36,809 Except, yes, I just wanted it to go away and 193 00:09:37,843 --> 00:09:40,313 so one day 194 00:09:40,313 --> 00:09:44,250 I, I said to my husband, 195 00:09:45,484 --> 00:09:47,587 I really want to drive. 196 00:09:47,587 --> 00:09:50,590 I want to get out there and and drive, but 197 00:09:51,190 --> 00:09:54,193 follow me because I'll feel comfortable 198 00:09:54,327 --> 00:09:57,330 and I was, I was I was going through a really bad time. 199 00:09:58,197 --> 00:10:00,199 And so he did. 200 00:10:00,199 --> 00:10:02,134 And I thought, oh, this is good. I'm comfortable. 201 00:10:02,134 --> 00:10:04,103 This follow me. 202 00:10:04,103 --> 00:10:05,271 And guess what? 203 00:10:05,271 --> 00:10:10,242 And the biggest panic attack of all, oh wow. 204 00:10:10,509 --> 00:10:14,313 My hands were so my hands were more on the way. 205 00:10:14,347 --> 00:10:15,648 I could feel them. 206 00:10:15,648 --> 00:10:17,783 You were like, now you were on a side road. 207 00:10:17,783 --> 00:10:19,952 I hope not a highway. Highway. 208 00:10:19,952 --> 00:10:21,887 Somewhere you could pull over. Yes. Okay. 209 00:10:21,887 --> 00:10:23,089 Good, good. 210 00:10:23,089 --> 00:10:26,058 You know that, was on the side that I could pull over. 211 00:10:26,726 --> 00:10:29,328 But this is where the magic happened. 212 00:10:29,328 --> 00:10:34,100 And this is where it was the beginning of the end. 213 00:10:34,100 --> 00:10:35,801 And for me, fully understanding, 214 00:10:37,403 --> 00:10:39,238 I heard her say, am. 215 00:10:39,238 --> 00:10:40,873 I had. 216 00:10:40,873 --> 00:10:43,175 You have to accept this. 217 00:10:43,175 --> 00:10:46,345 So while I'm driving now, super slow, 218 00:10:47,179 --> 00:10:49,849 I began to say to myself, 219 00:10:49,849 --> 00:10:52,418 instead of saying, oh my God, this is happening again! 220 00:10:52,418 --> 00:10:54,353 I can't believe this. He's behind me. 221 00:10:54,353 --> 00:10:58,958 Let no, I shut that down and said this. 222 00:10:58,991 --> 00:11:01,994 Interesting what my body can do 223 00:11:02,662 --> 00:11:05,598 is interesting and I watch. 224 00:11:05,598 --> 00:11:07,700 My hands were like shaking on the wheel. 225 00:11:07,700 --> 00:11:10,202 So yeah. 226 00:11:10,202 --> 00:11:13,205 And I began to watch my body calm down. 227 00:11:13,572 --> 00:11:16,709 And I did the breathing techniques that I was taught 228 00:11:17,576 --> 00:11:21,681 and I saw, oh, I can control this. 229 00:11:22,415 --> 00:11:25,418 I don't have to feel this fear. 230 00:11:26,118 --> 00:11:30,122 And it was in that moment that everything changed for me. 231 00:11:30,756 --> 00:11:33,759 But I also remember my mother saying 232 00:11:34,727 --> 00:11:36,128 my mother had speared, 233 00:11:37,530 --> 00:11:38,030 suddenly 234 00:11:38,030 --> 00:11:41,033 dying and leaving her kids and my father not being home. 235 00:11:41,033 --> 00:11:43,335 She had a lot of feels like that. 236 00:11:43,335 --> 00:11:46,405 So one day, the things she feared the most happened. 237 00:11:46,405 --> 00:11:49,408 At 52 years old, she had a heart attack. 238 00:11:49,608 --> 00:11:52,611 And I remember visiting her in the hospital, 239 00:11:52,978 --> 00:11:55,981 and she said to me, 240 00:11:56,215 --> 00:12:00,419 if I lived through this, when I come out, I'm going to live. 241 00:12:00,853 --> 00:12:03,856 I'm going to really live. 242 00:12:03,856 --> 00:12:06,292 And then when she got out of that hospital, 243 00:12:06,292 --> 00:12:09,061 she was the shape of her life. 244 00:12:09,061 --> 00:12:11,530 She never walked alone, 245 00:12:11,530 --> 00:12:14,266 but she began walking for her heart. 246 00:12:14,266 --> 00:12:16,268 She began eating differently. 247 00:12:16,268 --> 00:12:19,538 She began thinking a whole new lease on life. 248 00:12:20,106 --> 00:12:24,944 Wow. Pictured my mom and dad getting on a plane. 249 00:12:25,010 --> 00:12:28,013 Yeah, and she never flew, right? 250 00:12:28,581 --> 00:12:30,983 No, she couldn't even look at an air. 251 00:12:30,983 --> 00:12:32,818 And she looked like. 252 00:12:32,818 --> 00:12:35,821 I remember seeing that picture, that big smile on her face. 253 00:12:35,988 --> 00:12:37,823 She was ecstatic. 254 00:12:37,823 --> 00:12:41,060 So later on, when I would call home, 255 00:12:41,761 --> 00:12:44,363 my, my mom always answered the phone. 256 00:12:44,363 --> 00:12:47,700 I remember my dad answering the phone and they said, Where's mom? 257 00:12:47,933 --> 00:12:48,868 He said, oh, she's not, 258 00:12:51,437 --> 00:12:53,405 And then I thought, wow, 259 00:12:53,405 --> 00:12:59,411 this is a woman who couldn't drive unless she was with other people 260 00:12:59,445 --> 00:13:02,348 and she couldn't do it. There's so many things that she couldn't do. 261 00:13:02,348 --> 00:13:05,351 You know, she was in this prison because she really didn't have the help. 262 00:13:05,751 --> 00:13:08,087 But she began reading a lot of books. 263 00:13:08,087 --> 00:13:11,257 I remember one of her first books was a Norman Vincent Peale. 264 00:13:11,257 --> 00:13:12,258 Oh, sure. 265 00:13:12,258 --> 00:13:15,127 So she would pass down 266 00:13:15,127 --> 00:13:18,397 these books to me, the power of positive thinking and all these great books. 267 00:13:18,397 --> 00:13:21,400 That and she shared with me 268 00:13:21,767 --> 00:13:25,905 that she couldn't go into a store, because if you're waiting in line 269 00:13:26,806 --> 00:13:29,375 and you're paying or you're next up 270 00:13:29,375 --> 00:13:33,312 for the at the bank teller, you have this claustrophobic 271 00:13:33,312 --> 00:13:37,516 feeling like, oh my gosh, what if I can't stand here and pay? 272 00:13:37,550 --> 00:13:38,884 What if I have to leave? 273 00:13:38,884 --> 00:13:41,620 And then there's people in front of me, people behind me. 274 00:13:41,620 --> 00:13:43,923 Where do I go going to be looking at me? 275 00:13:43,923 --> 00:13:45,157 What am I going to do? 276 00:13:45,157 --> 00:13:47,893 She had this racing thoughts and that happened to her. 277 00:13:47,893 --> 00:13:49,295 She was in a little store 278 00:13:50,362 --> 00:13:53,766 and she, she left whatever she was going to buy on the counter. 279 00:13:54,099 --> 00:13:57,102 And she went out of the store and she fell. 280 00:13:58,337 --> 00:14:01,340 And then she said to herself, wait a minute, 281 00:14:01,540 --> 00:14:05,778 this must be my mind, because I'm the same person 282 00:14:05,778 --> 00:14:10,082 standing outside the store that I was standing at that counter. 283 00:14:10,549 --> 00:14:13,552 So nothing really changed. 284 00:14:13,786 --> 00:14:15,354 So my thoughts have changed. 285 00:14:15,354 --> 00:14:18,123 I learned everything that's really good deductive thinking. 286 00:14:18,123 --> 00:14:19,325 Yeah. Yes. 287 00:14:19,325 --> 00:14:21,927 And she was a very wise, wise woman. 288 00:14:21,927 --> 00:14:24,930 So she passed a lot of that on to me. 289 00:14:25,197 --> 00:14:28,200 And in this book I pass, 290 00:14:28,300 --> 00:14:31,303 I feel like I've been your guinea pig. 291 00:14:32,905 --> 00:14:34,840 So you don't have to. Yes. 292 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,843 I don't want anyone to write. You don't. 293 00:14:38,077 --> 00:14:41,013 And someone in the family, 294 00:14:41,013 --> 00:14:44,016 had called me not too long ago 295 00:14:44,149 --> 00:14:47,653 and said that they were going through this, 296 00:14:48,220 --> 00:14:52,124 and they apologized because they never understood 297 00:14:52,124 --> 00:14:55,327 what my mother went through and what I went through 298 00:14:55,628 --> 00:14:58,631 until they went through, I said, you know, 299 00:14:58,631 --> 00:15:01,667 people really don't get it. 300 00:15:01,667 --> 00:15:04,870 It's a story, you know, unless you walk a mile in your shoes, 301 00:15:05,471 --> 00:15:07,907 you don't really know, but you don't want to be walking a mile in 302 00:15:07,907 --> 00:15:10,009 everybody shoes and feel. 303 00:15:10,009 --> 00:15:12,978 Yes. You just know that you're not alone. 304 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:16,048 You're not alone when you feel anxiety 305 00:15:16,048 --> 00:15:19,551 and you feel stress and you have worrisome thoughts, 306 00:15:20,519 --> 00:15:21,887 you get out of control. 307 00:15:21,887 --> 00:15:24,156 Like you feel like you can't stop them. 308 00:15:24,156 --> 00:15:27,159 So in this book 309 00:15:27,526 --> 00:15:30,529 is to tell you that you have way more control 310 00:15:30,796 --> 00:15:34,700 than we do have dominion over our body and what we think. 311 00:15:35,301 --> 00:15:37,636 But but sometimes you just need a little push. 312 00:15:37,636 --> 00:15:41,440 Sometimes you need to walk through the wave coming at you 313 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,010 and know it's going to pass right. 314 00:15:45,377 --> 00:15:50,215 And everything's going to be calm on the other side when you lose the fear. 315 00:15:50,215 --> 00:15:52,418 And that's why I call this starving your fears. 316 00:15:52,418 --> 00:15:56,755 If you don't feed a plant, it's going to die, right? 317 00:15:57,022 --> 00:15:59,258 And we're the same way. 318 00:15:59,258 --> 00:16:02,328 Don't keep feeding what you fear. 319 00:16:02,895 --> 00:16:07,099 So if the news bothers you, you don't watch the news, right? 320 00:16:07,333 --> 00:16:09,935 You don't need change the channel. 321 00:16:09,935 --> 00:16:13,138 People will tell you something bad is happening in your neighborhood that, 322 00:16:13,639 --> 00:16:15,074 people love to gossip. 323 00:16:15,074 --> 00:16:16,241 They'll they'll tell you, let you know. 324 00:16:16,241 --> 00:16:19,044 Did you hear that, so-and-so? People love that. Don't they? 325 00:16:19,044 --> 00:16:21,113 Yeah. Yeah. 326 00:16:21,113 --> 00:16:22,448 Well, we want to change the world. 327 00:16:22,448 --> 00:16:26,051 So people talk about what's good, and that's right. 328 00:16:26,151 --> 00:16:29,254 And when you start to talk about it, you start to think about 329 00:16:30,122 --> 00:16:32,858 what are the good things that happen in your life. 330 00:16:32,858 --> 00:16:34,059 Don't focus on that. 331 00:16:34,059 --> 00:16:37,396 A terrible childhood for this or that. 332 00:16:37,396 --> 00:16:41,633 No, you are where you are right now, right and right now. 333 00:16:41,834 --> 00:16:45,170 You could start a fabulous life just like your mom did. 334 00:16:46,038 --> 00:16:47,639 That was a mindset. 335 00:16:47,639 --> 00:16:50,042 This woman, I'm telling you, couldn't do anything. 336 00:16:50,042 --> 00:16:53,912 She left that hospital and that was in her first plane, right? 337 00:16:54,079 --> 00:16:56,949 She went on many planes and with the anxiety 338 00:16:56,949 --> 00:16:59,251 before thinking about, you know, passing away. 339 00:16:59,251 --> 00:17:01,720 And then she had that heart attack at 52. 340 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,723 She got a new lease and she started thinking differently. 341 00:17:04,790 --> 00:17:08,527 And her life changed to fear in the face. 342 00:17:08,527 --> 00:17:10,562 Right. She said, I'm not afraid. 343 00:17:10,562 --> 00:17:13,165 Don't be to that wave. Like you said, walk into the wave. 344 00:17:14,433 --> 00:17:16,001 And some people, because I've 345 00:17:16,001 --> 00:17:19,104 dealt with hundreds and hundreds of people with this, 346 00:17:20,139 --> 00:17:23,142 they will be so disappointed 347 00:17:23,609 --> 00:17:28,313 when they get a panic attack after they've tried things. 348 00:17:28,313 --> 00:17:30,816 I said, no, that's a good thing. 349 00:17:30,816 --> 00:17:32,718 This is your time to practice. 350 00:17:32,718 --> 00:17:36,255 Because that feeling may never go away. 351 00:17:36,522 --> 00:17:41,894 Your body may always be like you know geared to sending out more adrenaline. 352 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,328 Yeah. 353 00:17:43,328 --> 00:17:46,999 You just have to look at it like I'm just going to practice through this 354 00:17:47,299 --> 00:17:48,100 and look at it. 355 00:17:48,100 --> 00:17:50,335 See, you know I've been here before. 356 00:17:50,335 --> 00:17:52,104 You go away. Right. 357 00:17:52,104 --> 00:17:53,472 If it does go away. 358 00:17:53,472 --> 00:17:56,475 But don't give it credibility. 359 00:17:56,575 --> 00:17:58,977 And here's a good, good trick. 360 00:17:58,977 --> 00:18:02,581 And I know we've talked about this before, but I think you can never hear 361 00:18:02,614 --> 00:18:05,451 enough, I'm sure. Yep. Your breath. 362 00:18:05,451 --> 00:18:10,089 It's all in your breath the moment you start breathing like this. 363 00:18:11,890 --> 00:18:13,892 I guess you just said. 364 00:18:13,892 --> 00:18:17,463 And I just sent a message to my brain that I'm in trouble. 365 00:18:18,163 --> 00:18:21,500 So we automatically go into the fight or flight. 366 00:18:21,500 --> 00:18:24,536 Yes, but back in the caveman days, 367 00:18:25,070 --> 00:18:28,774 when you had that adrenaline rush, you had a for a reason. 368 00:18:28,774 --> 00:18:31,977 Because you were supposed to run right for, 369 00:18:34,413 --> 00:18:36,081 We're not doing that today. 370 00:18:36,081 --> 00:18:39,084 You're there going to get food or be food back then. 371 00:18:39,451 --> 00:18:43,355 So while you're sitting at your computer or you're in bed, even watch a movie, 372 00:18:43,355 --> 00:18:48,727 whatever, and you get that panic feeling your brain is thinking, do something. 373 00:18:48,727 --> 00:18:50,596 It's telling you to do something. 374 00:18:50,596 --> 00:18:54,199 And when you don't do anything but like say, oh my God, what's happening? 375 00:18:54,500 --> 00:18:56,635 It pumps out more. 376 00:18:56,635 --> 00:18:58,036 Why isn't Joyce running. 377 00:18:58,036 --> 00:19:00,439 Why isn't Joyce right. 378 00:19:00,439 --> 00:19:04,943 So it just exacerbates what's, what's happening within you. 379 00:19:05,477 --> 00:19:08,480 But the mom that I'm talking nanosecond 380 00:19:09,014 --> 00:19:11,717 you get breath down into your belly 381 00:19:11,717 --> 00:19:14,720 and you do diaphragmatic breathing. 382 00:19:15,020 --> 00:19:18,357 You send a message to your brain that you're okay 383 00:19:18,857 --> 00:19:22,394 and you can't have an anxiety attack. 384 00:19:22,728 --> 00:19:25,430 It's impossible because your brain has shut 385 00:19:25,430 --> 00:19:28,433 all those valves off for you. 386 00:19:28,567 --> 00:19:32,004 Now you can get right back into the panic mode again 387 00:19:32,604 --> 00:19:35,607 but learn to breathe diaphragmatic like. 388 00:19:35,908 --> 00:19:38,911 And I always like to give people the vision of, 389 00:19:39,178 --> 00:19:43,115 thinking of a toddler standing there, 390 00:19:43,315 --> 00:19:46,618 you know, a little diaper on, and they got that rounded. Yes. 391 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,655 And they're breathing. 392 00:19:52,758 --> 00:19:55,761 The moment they get stressed they're all here. 393 00:19:55,861 --> 00:19:56,328 Right. 394 00:19:56,328 --> 00:20:00,132 Yeah a dog, a cat is the same way 395 00:20:00,599 --> 00:20:04,169 when they're, they're just stretched out, they're belly breathing. 396 00:20:04,469 --> 00:20:08,140 But if there's stress they're barking right here. 397 00:20:09,074 --> 00:20:11,743 We're meant to be breathing 398 00:20:11,743 --> 00:20:14,213 through the belly area. 399 00:20:14,213 --> 00:20:17,316 And only when we're speaking, even when you're speaking of 400 00:20:17,349 --> 00:20:20,352 you can train yourself to because I do that 401 00:20:21,053 --> 00:20:23,655 as a singer, as a singer. 402 00:20:23,655 --> 00:20:25,457 And when you're out there doing public speaking or whatever, 403 00:20:25,457 --> 00:20:28,627 using that diaphragm, good posture, shoulders back 404 00:20:30,128 --> 00:20:33,131 and and the biggest trick I learned, 405 00:20:33,565 --> 00:20:36,568 it was through a wonderful book about breathwork. 406 00:20:36,602 --> 00:20:39,605 I wish I could remember like that, 407 00:20:39,738 --> 00:20:43,842 but they said that your nose is designed 408 00:20:45,043 --> 00:20:48,080 to breathe, you know, because of the hairs 409 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,749 in our nose and everything, it captures the, you know, the follicles. 410 00:20:52,150 --> 00:20:53,952 And, and so 411 00:20:53,952 --> 00:20:56,955 when you close off one nostril, 412 00:20:57,189 --> 00:21:00,859 taking a deep breath, even if you're in your car, you could do this. 413 00:21:00,859 --> 00:21:02,928 I do this in traffic. 414 00:21:02,928 --> 00:21:05,931 It automatically makes you breathe diagrammatically 415 00:21:06,498 --> 00:21:09,134 and then exhale through the nostril. 416 00:21:09,134 --> 00:21:13,438 Also some people like to take the breath in and go 417 00:21:14,706 --> 00:21:16,775 oh yeah, that's fine too. 418 00:21:16,775 --> 00:21:20,445 But if you can do it just, you know, you just lean like this and 419 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,448 you take the breath in, breath out 420 00:21:23,448 --> 00:21:26,451 like alternating three times, 421 00:21:27,052 --> 00:21:29,288 you will calm your body. 422 00:21:29,288 --> 00:21:33,659 And it's it's like a miracle because you are a miracle witness. 423 00:21:34,259 --> 00:21:37,429 And I do the same thing every morning along with my workout in the morning, 424 00:21:37,429 --> 00:21:40,432 like a little core Pilates, yoga exercises in the morning. 425 00:21:40,532 --> 00:21:42,534 And I spend time breathing, 426 00:21:42,534 --> 00:21:45,504 you know, just breathing in through my nose, like you were saying, 427 00:21:45,504 --> 00:21:49,007 alternate this and that, and then then maybe after every 30 times, I'll. 428 00:21:49,841 --> 00:21:52,110 I breathe in real deep and hold it 429 00:21:52,110 --> 00:21:56,214 for as long as I can, and I go out slowly, and I. 430 00:21:56,214 --> 00:21:59,217 Any kind of stress is gone. 431 00:21:59,251 --> 00:22:02,621 You can't help but feel good, because the more oxygen 432 00:22:02,621 --> 00:22:05,624 you have in your body, the less chance of disease. 433 00:22:05,924 --> 00:22:07,326 Yes, because there's more ease. 434 00:22:07,326 --> 00:22:09,127 Disease means lack of ease. 435 00:22:09,127 --> 00:22:11,029 The more ease you have in the body. 436 00:22:11,029 --> 00:22:13,832 Oxygen, you know, the more oxygen you have in 437 00:22:13,832 --> 00:22:16,835 your body, the less apt you're going to have disease. 438 00:22:16,902 --> 00:22:21,540 So breathing is extraordinarily important, and people forget to breathe. 439 00:22:21,673 --> 00:22:23,041 They do, they do. 440 00:22:23,041 --> 00:22:25,344 You don't realize at times that you're holding your breath 441 00:22:25,344 --> 00:22:26,912 or breathing very shallow. 442 00:22:26,912 --> 00:22:30,048 Most people you're so right there as people that are over 30, 443 00:22:30,048 --> 00:22:31,616 35 years old too. 444 00:22:31,616 --> 00:22:33,719 They get less and less oxygen in their body 445 00:22:33,719 --> 00:22:35,187 because they're not sprinting. 446 00:22:35,187 --> 00:22:37,022 They're not running as much anymore. 447 00:22:37,022 --> 00:22:39,091 They're not exercising as much. 448 00:22:39,091 --> 00:22:41,093 They're becoming more lethargic. 449 00:22:41,093 --> 00:22:43,628 And, that's that's a dangerous situation. 450 00:22:43,628 --> 00:22:47,265 You want to continually expand those lungs to get air in your body. 451 00:22:47,866 --> 00:22:49,000 And exercise. 452 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,303 It's a it's really, really important. 453 00:22:51,303 --> 00:22:53,772 And breathing in and getting that air in the body, 454 00:22:53,772 --> 00:22:56,908 if you could just walk a little slowly, 455 00:22:56,908 --> 00:22:59,911 you know, there's a saying that let's see 456 00:23:00,278 --> 00:23:04,449 if you're lying down, but you can stand up, stand up. 457 00:23:05,150 --> 00:23:06,752 If you're sitting, 458 00:23:07,986 --> 00:23:09,221 stand up 459 00:23:09,221 --> 00:23:14,493 if you can walk, walk if you can, then put it in a faster walk. 460 00:23:14,726 --> 00:23:15,761 Do that. 461 00:23:15,761 --> 00:23:19,364 Because what happens when you exercise in any form? 462 00:23:19,831 --> 00:23:24,169 You're actually telling your brain, your body that you're alive? Yes. 463 00:23:24,903 --> 00:23:27,205 And your body responds to that. 464 00:23:27,205 --> 00:23:30,909 Almost like saying, oh, John wants to live. Yes. 465 00:23:30,942 --> 00:23:33,845 You know, let's let's help him live. 466 00:23:33,845 --> 00:23:34,646 Right? 467 00:23:34,646 --> 00:23:39,885 But when you just let go and you think I'm too old or I'm too sick, 468 00:23:39,918 --> 00:23:43,688 whatever your body response is, oh, 469 00:23:43,688 --> 00:23:46,925 they're too old and and you're prophesize in your future with that too. 470 00:23:47,592 --> 00:23:49,428 And the thing is, we really are. 471 00:23:49,428 --> 00:23:52,397 It sounds cliche, but we really are ageless. 472 00:23:52,397 --> 00:23:55,267 Yes, because, I mean, I know people that are 20 who are old, by the way. 473 00:23:55,267 --> 00:23:57,436 They think, oh, I'm so old now. 474 00:23:57,436 --> 00:24:00,138 I was a guy at the gym the other day. Can't do what I used to do. 475 00:24:00,138 --> 00:24:02,507 I'm 30 years old now and I'm thinking to myself, what do you do? 476 00:24:02,507 --> 00:24:04,009 You know who you're talking to? 477 00:24:04,009 --> 00:24:06,978 I mean, come on, come on, you know, but we do. 478 00:24:06,978 --> 00:24:10,215 We do kind of, like, manifest what we say and what we think. 479 00:24:10,649 --> 00:24:14,486 I've watched people prophesize that and like, from years of go 480 00:24:15,086 --> 00:24:17,823 now I'm not going to be able to do this right. 481 00:24:17,823 --> 00:24:18,990 I can't do this. 482 00:24:18,990 --> 00:24:23,762 And then I look at them today and I think, yeah, 483 00:24:23,762 --> 00:24:28,633 I may be aging, but I right now, you know what? 484 00:24:28,967 --> 00:24:29,901 We are not aging. 485 00:24:29,901 --> 00:24:33,238 We are using for we are using we're not used. 486 00:24:33,238 --> 00:24:35,540 No no no no no, I don't know. 487 00:24:35,540 --> 00:24:37,075 That's a whole different show. 488 00:24:37,075 --> 00:24:39,678 But we are youth not aging. 489 00:24:39,678 --> 00:24:41,213 Yes, we are. 490 00:24:43,215 --> 00:24:45,817 Think that's right. 491 00:24:45,817 --> 00:24:47,619 Actually it has. Right. Yes. Right. 492 00:24:47,619 --> 00:24:48,286 Mindset. 493 00:24:48,286 --> 00:24:51,556 It, it right that saying you're as young as you feel 494 00:24:51,790 --> 00:24:54,559 we're going to go out kicking and screaming no matter what. 495 00:24:54,559 --> 00:24:56,127 We're kicking and screaming. So are you. 496 00:24:56,127 --> 00:24:57,696 We believe in you. 497 00:24:57,696 --> 00:25:01,066 So just know that you have more power than you know. 498 00:25:01,066 --> 00:25:02,234 It's in your breath. 499 00:25:02,234 --> 00:25:05,504 It's in the way you think. And life is good. 500 00:25:05,704 --> 00:25:06,404 It is good. 501 00:25:06,404 --> 00:25:09,407 Listening to us right now, you have ears to hear. 502 00:25:09,407 --> 00:25:11,209 Maybe you have eyes to see. 503 00:25:11,209 --> 00:25:13,745 Maybe you can walk. Or you could talk. 504 00:25:13,745 --> 00:25:18,049 Focus on what's good in your body, what's going on in your life, 505 00:25:18,683 --> 00:25:22,554 and know that nothing bad is going to last forever. 506 00:25:22,554 --> 00:25:25,490 And unless you make it, what do they say? 507 00:25:25,490 --> 00:25:29,327 What 9,596% of what you worry about never comes to fruition anyway, 508 00:25:29,761 --> 00:25:33,064 we let fear take over and my my whole motto is faith over fear 509 00:25:33,798 --> 00:25:35,567 has always been my motto of faith over fear. 510 00:25:35,567 --> 00:25:41,339 So again, starving those fears and just feeding our faith, feeding positive. 511 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,976 A lot of us have things in our life that we'd like to change, but 512 00:25:44,976 --> 00:25:47,979 I want to focus on the things that I like that are good in my life. 513 00:25:48,113 --> 00:25:49,214 It's too easy to go down the road. 514 00:25:49,214 --> 00:25:51,816 I wish I had this, I wish I had that, no, no, no. 515 00:25:51,816 --> 00:25:54,452 You know, just, you know, it's okay to want to want things. 516 00:25:54,452 --> 00:25:57,956 But as I get older too, I think more and more about experiences 517 00:25:58,423 --> 00:26:01,726 and friendships more than things, you know, 518 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,630 the more you appreciate what you have right now, you may see those things. 519 00:26:06,131 --> 00:26:06,731 You may. 520 00:26:06,731 --> 00:26:09,167 And the more you're more grateful you're about things, 521 00:26:09,167 --> 00:26:10,502 the more goods is going to come into your life. 522 00:26:12,137 --> 00:26:13,638 So we wish that for you. 523 00:26:13,638 --> 00:26:14,839 Breathe. 524 00:26:14,839 --> 00:26:16,775 Breathe. Smile. 525 00:26:16,775 --> 00:26:18,443 Smile, everybody. 526 00:26:18,443 --> 00:26:21,179 Like a Raggedy Ann or Andy doll. 527 00:26:21,179 --> 00:26:24,182 Just sitting there limp like this. 528 00:26:24,416 --> 00:26:27,185 You can't have a panic attack 529 00:26:27,185 --> 00:26:30,589 because you're diaphragmatic breathing when you do that, right? 530 00:26:30,822 --> 00:26:33,558 So think of yourself as 531 00:26:33,558 --> 00:26:35,460 and happy and. 532 00:26:35,460 --> 00:26:37,395 Yeah, life will be better. 533 00:26:37,395 --> 00:26:40,398 So if somebody calls you Raggedy Ann, it's a compliment. 534 00:26:41,766 --> 00:26:43,401 Your ankle 535 00:26:43,401 --> 00:26:45,770 starving your fears, you can get it on 536 00:26:45,770 --> 00:26:49,274 and you can do whatever for literally pennies. So, 537 00:26:50,442 --> 00:26:51,242 where else can they get? 538 00:26:51,242 --> 00:26:53,612 Can they get on Amazon? 539 00:26:53,612 --> 00:26:54,012 I don't want to. 540 00:26:54,012 --> 00:26:57,015 First came out it was number one on Amazon for like 13 straight weeks. 541 00:26:57,749 --> 00:26:58,316 Thank you. 542 00:26:58,316 --> 00:27:01,786 I see how I'm manifesting that you have. 543 00:27:01,820 --> 00:27:05,590 Oh I just want you to know I have stories worth of people that I've worked with 544 00:27:06,191 --> 00:27:09,194 and how they came out of their fears. 545 00:27:09,728 --> 00:27:11,930 It's I think it's a great read. 546 00:27:11,930 --> 00:27:13,965 It's a it's an easy read. 547 00:27:13,965 --> 00:27:16,968 And every page there's going to be something on here. 548 00:27:17,002 --> 00:27:18,637 I like all the pictures in there too. 549 00:27:18,637 --> 00:27:22,073 You know, which which my husband took these pictures means a lot. 550 00:27:22,073 --> 00:27:23,742 That meant a lot. 551 00:27:23,742 --> 00:27:26,277 And plus, at the outset of the show, you were saying there have been, 552 00:27:26,277 --> 00:27:30,015 you know, books written about this, but they've been so, you know, technical 553 00:27:30,815 --> 00:27:33,618 the way that the way you. 554 00:27:33,618 --> 00:27:34,219 Yeah. 555 00:27:34,219 --> 00:27:38,223 And I like that because the average everyday person can understand this 556 00:27:38,223 --> 00:27:40,458 and doesn't have to be a rocket scientist about it. 557 00:27:40,458 --> 00:27:42,961 I'm not talking about someone who. 558 00:27:42,961 --> 00:27:43,161 Yeah. 559 00:27:43,161 --> 00:27:46,164 I mean, let me just say also this that the, 560 00:27:46,598 --> 00:27:49,968 the therapist that I saw said she could understand 561 00:27:49,968 --> 00:27:53,605 what I was going through because she once had a panic attack. 562 00:27:53,605 --> 00:27:54,906 And then something happened. 563 00:27:54,906 --> 00:27:57,909 She said, well, it's my first time flying solo. 564 00:27:58,209 --> 00:28:02,781 And I looked like I was running on a gas and it's like, get out of here. 565 00:28:02,781 --> 00:28:05,417 I said anyone would have a panic, right. 566 00:28:05,417 --> 00:28:08,286 You're crying solo I said no is it. 567 00:28:08,286 --> 00:28:09,387 You don't understand. 568 00:28:09,387 --> 00:28:12,390 These are panic attacks while you're sitting home watching TV. 569 00:28:12,390 --> 00:28:14,526 Yeah. 570 00:28:14,526 --> 00:28:19,698 And that's what made me want to write this book, from someone who's lived it. 571 00:28:19,998 --> 00:28:21,366 Anyway. That's enough. 572 00:28:21,366 --> 00:28:22,100 Yeah. 573 00:28:22,100 --> 00:28:25,603 No no no no, I, I think that's great, I really do, but there 574 00:28:25,904 --> 00:28:27,706 there is, there is hope for for you. 575 00:28:27,706 --> 00:28:30,508 I mean, people like we talk about all the time don't want to feel like 576 00:28:30,508 --> 00:28:34,345 they're alone and feel like, is this really just happening to me? No. 577 00:28:34,579 --> 00:28:38,316 There's a lot of people that, that, that deal with this 578 00:28:38,450 --> 00:28:39,718 don't know how to express it. 579 00:28:39,718 --> 00:28:41,886 Like I said, you get sympathy with a broken arm 580 00:28:41,886 --> 00:28:44,889 because people can see it, but if they can't see, right, 581 00:28:45,323 --> 00:28:47,792 just the amount of angst 582 00:28:47,792 --> 00:28:50,795 over the stress that you're living, right? 583 00:28:50,895 --> 00:28:52,330 They don't understand it. 584 00:28:52,330 --> 00:28:55,333 Like the doctor said to my mother, just go get a job. 585 00:28:55,500 --> 00:28:58,036 I went out to coffee recently with a gentleman who was a dear 586 00:28:58,036 --> 00:29:02,240 friend of mine, who's really suffering from major anxiety and so many levels. 587 00:29:02,540 --> 00:29:04,642 He just wanted to be. He wanted to be heard. 588 00:29:04,642 --> 00:29:07,378 I just sat down with him, listen to and let him talk. 589 00:29:07,378 --> 00:29:09,581 Didn't Pooh Pooh anything he was saying. 590 00:29:09,581 --> 00:29:11,182 See? Listen, man, this is a free place. 591 00:29:11,182 --> 00:29:13,351 This is a judgment free zone. 592 00:29:13,351 --> 00:29:15,019 Kind of like Planet Fitness, right? 593 00:29:15,019 --> 00:29:17,355 And you could talk to me and say anything to me, and, 594 00:29:17,355 --> 00:29:19,691 you know, it's not going to go anywhere, right? 595 00:29:19,691 --> 00:29:20,558 Because I always tell people, 596 00:29:20,558 --> 00:29:23,561 if you tell me something, you say, I want this to be in confidence. 597 00:29:23,762 --> 00:29:26,765 I will always say, this is only between me and my wife, 598 00:29:27,031 --> 00:29:31,369 because my wife and I are one, and they oh, we expect that, you know. 599 00:29:31,369 --> 00:29:33,471 And so that's that's what that's where it goes. 600 00:29:33,471 --> 00:29:34,806 But that's as far as it goes. 601 00:29:34,806 --> 00:29:37,709 And they know that they're not being judged. Right. 602 00:29:37,709 --> 00:29:39,544 Because we all have issues. 603 00:29:39,544 --> 00:29:40,979 Every one of us has issues. 604 00:29:40,979 --> 00:29:43,748 We all have that in common. We love you very much. 605 00:29:44,749 --> 00:29:46,184 Thank you so much for tuning in. 606 00:29:46,184 --> 00:29:47,452 The what's good with John enjoys. 607 00:29:47,452 --> 00:29:50,221 So we'll catch you again next time. We pray for you and your family. 608 00:29:50,221 --> 00:29:51,656 And please subscribe, 609 00:29:51,656 --> 00:29:54,959 and on all the major platforms, but especially go to YouTube if you can. 610 00:29:54,959 --> 00:29:57,962 Subscribe is for free and share it with everybody. 611 00:29:58,396 --> 00:29:58,897 Bye for now.