1 00:00:00,049 --> 00:00:02,840 Rod Bland: My guest today is Professor Dean Brinson, who 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,270 had a near death experience, and he's here to talk about 3 00:00:05,270 --> 00:00:06,380 that experience today. 4 00:00:06,799 --> 00:00:08,870 Professor Brinson, welcome and thank you so much 5 00:00:08,870 --> 00:00:09,410 for coming on the show. 6 00:00:09,771 --> 00:00:10,671 Dean Brinson: You're more than welcome. 7 00:00:11,311 --> 00:00:13,531 Rod Bland: All right, so tell us what happened, Professor. 8 00:00:15,011 --> 00:00:15,661 Dean Brinson: Okay. 9 00:00:16,311 --> 00:00:18,361 Let me give you a little background on myself. 10 00:00:18,991 --> 00:00:21,651 Uh, I have taught school. 11 00:00:22,136 --> 00:00:26,296 in the Chicago school system, uh, for about 17 years at 12 00:00:26,376 --> 00:00:30,046 all levels, elementary, high school, and also 13 00:00:30,406 --> 00:00:31,466 taught at the college level. 14 00:00:32,576 --> 00:00:35,406 But I was extremely curious for knowledge. 15 00:00:35,766 --> 00:00:37,306 All my life, I was curious. 16 00:00:38,156 --> 00:00:41,756 So I was never satisfied with the Western understanding 17 00:00:42,086 --> 00:00:42,916 of real knowledge. 18 00:00:42,926 --> 00:00:45,286 I always felt there was some knowledge deeper than 19 00:00:45,596 --> 00:00:46,486 what they talked about. 20 00:00:47,486 --> 00:00:49,786 So I've traveled around the world many times, 21 00:00:50,456 --> 00:00:51,596 and I ended up... 22 00:00:52,281 --> 00:00:55,751 Going through Europe, uh, through different parts of 23 00:00:56,031 --> 00:01:00,581 the Middle East, Japan, and I ended up in India, and 24 00:01:00,581 --> 00:01:03,561 I fell in love with that country because they have so 25 00:01:03,561 --> 00:01:08,281 many spiritual, uh, teachers over there and guides, and 26 00:01:08,281 --> 00:01:10,591 all of the religions of the world, major religion, come 27 00:01:10,591 --> 00:01:11,631 from that part of the world. 28 00:01:12,431 --> 00:01:14,481 We have imported them over here, and we think 29 00:01:14,541 --> 00:01:15,301 we know more than them. 30 00:01:16,141 --> 00:01:19,321 It's considered a third world country, and I was 31 00:01:19,321 --> 00:01:23,041 fortunate to come in contact with a high government 32 00:01:23,051 --> 00:01:25,341 official who befriended me. 33 00:01:27,191 --> 00:01:30,171 He taught me so much about spirituality. 34 00:01:30,771 --> 00:01:34,431 He said he had a teacher at an early age, which taught 35 00:01:34,431 --> 00:01:37,011 him how to consciously get out of the body and come back. 36 00:01:37,571 --> 00:01:38,891 That shocked me to my core. 37 00:01:39,411 --> 00:01:40,021 I said, what? 38 00:01:40,911 --> 00:01:45,731 He said, yes, this body is constructed in such a way that 39 00:01:45,761 --> 00:01:50,071 it has, uh, nine doors on it. 40 00:01:50,491 --> 00:01:51,691 I said, what do you mean by doors? 41 00:01:52,441 --> 00:01:54,001 He said, actually it's ten, but I'll tell 42 00:01:54,001 --> 00:01:54,901 you about the nine. 43 00:01:56,301 --> 00:01:58,371 You got two eyeballs, which are apertures, 44 00:01:58,371 --> 00:01:59,561 which are holes. 45 00:02:00,056 --> 00:02:02,036 Which captures your attention and takes it 46 00:02:02,056 --> 00:02:03,096 into the physical world. 47 00:02:04,236 --> 00:02:06,896 You have two doors at the earlobe level. 48 00:02:07,296 --> 00:02:10,886 These are holes, which you hear sounds in this world. 49 00:02:11,096 --> 00:02:13,346 It captures you and holds you at the physical level. 50 00:02:14,406 --> 00:02:17,706 Then you got two doors at the nostril level, where 51 00:02:17,706 --> 00:02:21,276 you breathe scents into this world, all kinds of odors. 52 00:02:21,956 --> 00:02:24,486 And that holds your attention into the physical world. 53 00:02:25,346 --> 00:02:26,266 And then you have a mouth. 54 00:02:27,516 --> 00:02:31,296 And that mouth does too much talking, so I laughed. 55 00:02:31,356 --> 00:02:34,766 He said, you should listen because you got two ears. 56 00:02:34,926 --> 00:02:35,796 You can learn more. 57 00:02:36,186 --> 00:02:38,896 When you talk, ask questions to someone who 58 00:02:38,966 --> 00:02:40,246 has higher knowledge. 59 00:02:41,066 --> 00:02:42,126 And that person can teach you. 60 00:02:42,406 --> 00:02:44,706 I said, you just told me it's possible to 61 00:02:44,706 --> 00:02:45,826 get out of this body. 62 00:02:46,396 --> 00:02:47,366 I'm still fascinated. 63 00:02:47,376 --> 00:02:48,016 He said, yes. 64 00:02:48,626 --> 00:02:50,326 But these doors are holding your attention. 65 00:02:51,326 --> 00:02:53,466 So far I've described, he said, how many 66 00:02:53,496 --> 00:02:54,496 doors have I described? 67 00:02:55,236 --> 00:02:55,986 I said, seven. 68 00:02:56,651 --> 00:03:00,061 He said, but you got two more, one at the reproductive 69 00:03:00,061 --> 00:03:01,761 organ and one at the buttocks. 70 00:03:02,751 --> 00:03:05,371 Most of the men in this world live at the 71 00:03:05,441 --> 00:03:06,391 reproductive organ. 72 00:03:06,401 --> 00:03:07,811 All their attention is flowing down there. 73 00:03:08,351 --> 00:03:09,601 You ask the women and they'll tell you. 74 00:03:09,611 --> 00:03:10,361 That's what they want. 75 00:03:11,401 --> 00:03:13,661 And then he described, you have to be able to 76 00:03:13,661 --> 00:03:17,641 reverse the flow of your attention from outside 77 00:03:17,641 --> 00:03:18,951 into this world to inside. 78 00:03:19,771 --> 00:03:22,061 And the creator or the universe has designed 79 00:03:22,061 --> 00:03:25,311 this human body in such a way that it is possible. 80 00:03:26,631 --> 00:03:28,721 And so he went into detail and he said his teacher 81 00:03:28,721 --> 00:03:29,641 taught him how to do this. 82 00:03:30,566 --> 00:03:36,256 So, uh, I would practice, uh, and I'll go into that 83 00:03:36,596 --> 00:03:39,986 after I had my immediate experience back in 2019, I'll 84 00:03:39,986 --> 00:03:41,126 come back to that experience. 85 00:03:41,946 --> 00:03:48,236 But when I was, uh, going to the hospital in 2019 86 00:03:48,306 --> 00:03:53,666 in the spring, uh, my wife insisted that I go 87 00:03:53,716 --> 00:03:55,026 and get a colonoscopy. 88 00:03:56,006 --> 00:03:57,716 And we got into a small argument. 89 00:03:58,571 --> 00:04:00,311 Uh, I was supposed to get a hip surgery. 90 00:04:00,311 --> 00:04:03,441 I said, I'll get one later on. 91 00:04:03,481 --> 00:04:06,051 She said, well, at least get your colonoscopy done. 92 00:04:06,941 --> 00:04:09,741 So she made the preparation for me to see a colonoscopist 93 00:04:10,451 --> 00:04:13,901 at Rush Hospital, which is near downtown in Chicago. 94 00:04:15,141 --> 00:04:18,091 So as we proceed, she put me in a wheelchair, 95 00:04:18,831 --> 00:04:21,011 and she was acting very courteous and ladylike. 96 00:04:22,221 --> 00:04:25,601 So as we go up to the fourth floor in that hospital 97 00:04:26,021 --> 00:04:28,741 to see the colonoscopist, who's supposed to do 98 00:04:28,741 --> 00:04:30,181 a colonoscopy on me. 99 00:04:31,196 --> 00:04:32,526 I said, well, I don't need this. 100 00:04:32,566 --> 00:04:34,156 She said, keep your mouth closed. 101 00:04:34,186 --> 00:04:36,026 I said, look, I've been eating plant based food 102 00:04:36,396 --> 00:04:38,146 for almost 50 years. 103 00:04:38,626 --> 00:04:41,336 All of my organs and veins and arteries are 104 00:04:41,406 --> 00:04:45,096 as clean, no cholesterol, and as pure as the snow. 105 00:04:45,636 --> 00:04:47,736 She said, keep your so and so mouth closed. 106 00:04:48,256 --> 00:04:50,296 You know how wives can get after you and argue. 107 00:04:51,236 --> 00:04:52,146 So I was quiet. 108 00:04:52,786 --> 00:04:56,756 So as she wheeled me into the fourth floor of the hospital 109 00:04:56,896 --> 00:05:02,316 room to see the colonoscopist, I quietly and noiselessly 110 00:05:02,656 --> 00:05:04,616 I had a heart attack. 111 00:05:04,626 --> 00:05:05,846 I didn't even feel a heart attack. 112 00:05:06,536 --> 00:05:10,576 I died and the Rush Hospital got all of my records 113 00:05:11,426 --> 00:05:12,916 concerning this experience. 114 00:05:14,196 --> 00:05:17,236 And as I died, I found myself out of the body 115 00:05:17,976 --> 00:05:22,536 looking at the doctors who my wife had got into a panic 116 00:05:22,536 --> 00:05:23,746 state and called everybody. 117 00:05:24,916 --> 00:05:28,356 Strangely enough, the universe had provided a cardiologist 118 00:05:28,366 --> 00:05:29,006 to be on that floor. 119 00:05:29,026 --> 00:05:30,316 He was not supposed to be on that floor. 120 00:05:31,326 --> 00:05:33,836 And so he gathered some nurses and people around 121 00:05:33,836 --> 00:05:36,146 him and they asked for a different instrument to 122 00:05:36,146 --> 00:05:37,176 try to resuscitate me. 123 00:05:37,961 --> 00:05:39,191 And I was watching this process. 124 00:05:40,011 --> 00:05:44,651 They cut off my expensive coat that I had worn and I 125 00:05:44,651 --> 00:05:45,911 tried to grab their hands. 126 00:05:46,551 --> 00:05:48,851 My hands went through their body, just like 127 00:05:48,851 --> 00:05:51,141 in the movie Ghosts with Patrick Swayze, Demi 128 00:05:51,141 --> 00:05:52,931 Moore, and Whoopi Goldberg. 129 00:05:53,571 --> 00:05:55,851 Because when you're in that body, you are a ghost. 130 00:05:56,991 --> 00:05:57,881 They can't see you. 131 00:05:58,331 --> 00:05:59,151 You can hear them. 132 00:06:00,121 --> 00:06:03,011 As a matter of fact, you can actually read their thoughts. 133 00:06:03,726 --> 00:06:05,096 of what is going on in their mind. 134 00:06:05,816 --> 00:06:07,856 We try to do this in this world, but we 135 00:06:07,856 --> 00:06:10,676 block by the inhibiting factor of the grossness 136 00:06:10,886 --> 00:06:11,696 of this physical body. 137 00:06:12,546 --> 00:06:15,056 These senses in this world are restricted. 138 00:06:16,026 --> 00:06:19,306 So as you get out of this body, you discover that the 139 00:06:19,356 --> 00:06:23,706 untetheredness of the soul inside the physical body 140 00:06:24,576 --> 00:06:27,986 gets released and you find yourself in an astral body. 141 00:06:28,876 --> 00:06:30,686 So as I got into that body, I was with my 142 00:06:30,686 --> 00:06:33,006 friend whom I had met. 143 00:06:33,691 --> 00:06:37,681 Over 40 some years ago, had experiences and taught 144 00:06:37,681 --> 00:06:38,841 me earlier how to do this. 145 00:06:39,611 --> 00:06:42,021 But when I had this heart attack, he came, 146 00:06:42,631 --> 00:06:44,641 he met me, and he said, what are you doing? 147 00:06:44,761 --> 00:06:46,321 You know, you can't play with these people. 148 00:06:46,321 --> 00:06:47,041 They can't hear you. 149 00:06:47,401 --> 00:06:48,251 Let's get out of here. 150 00:06:49,221 --> 00:06:51,951 So we, he chaperoned me. 151 00:06:51,971 --> 00:06:54,541 We flew through the roof at tremendous speed. 152 00:06:54,541 --> 00:06:55,651 I said, I want to see the sun. 153 00:06:56,611 --> 00:06:59,871 So we went to the sun and saw all of the nuclear 154 00:06:59,871 --> 00:07:01,011 explosion taking place. 155 00:07:01,021 --> 00:07:01,991 Great heat coming out. 156 00:07:02,031 --> 00:07:02,901 You couldn't feel anything. 157 00:07:03,636 --> 00:07:04,986 He said, why are you wasting your time on 158 00:07:04,986 --> 00:07:05,926 this boring experience? 159 00:07:05,936 --> 00:07:07,506 You experience the sunlight every day. 160 00:07:08,616 --> 00:07:09,406 Let's get out of here. 161 00:07:09,966 --> 00:07:13,346 So we flew beyond the sun, trillions and trillions 162 00:07:13,346 --> 00:07:16,306 of stars and planets and galaxies, and we 163 00:07:16,306 --> 00:07:18,196 entered the astral plane. 164 00:07:18,606 --> 00:07:20,106 But before we entered that plane, we went 165 00:07:20,106 --> 00:07:20,676 through a tunnel. 166 00:07:22,186 --> 00:07:24,766 And in that tunnel, there were human beings that I 167 00:07:24,766 --> 00:07:29,746 had met and known in the 1600s, 1700s, even earlier. 168 00:07:30,686 --> 00:07:33,666 And I didn't know everybody, but some were coming 169 00:07:33,686 --> 00:07:36,116 back through that tunnel and they recognized me. 170 00:07:36,836 --> 00:07:38,986 And they gave me a name, which I had at that time, 171 00:07:38,986 --> 00:07:40,916 and I acted like that was me. 172 00:07:41,276 --> 00:07:44,576 I knew them, and they said, uh, you going this 173 00:07:44,576 --> 00:07:45,516 way, we coming that way. 174 00:07:46,376 --> 00:07:50,406 We understand that, uh, you, I said, I'm in America, Chicago. 175 00:07:50,946 --> 00:07:52,176 Well, that's where we want to go. 176 00:07:53,106 --> 00:07:54,266 And I said, they said, what's your phone 177 00:07:54,266 --> 00:07:54,986 number, where you live? 178 00:07:54,986 --> 00:07:57,726 I gave them that information, knowing that when they become 179 00:07:57,726 --> 00:08:00,956 a baby, they will get into a state of Alzheimer's, 180 00:08:00,996 --> 00:08:01,946 spiritual Alzheimer's. 181 00:08:02,371 --> 00:08:03,531 A state of unforgetfulness. 182 00:08:03,741 --> 00:08:04,141 Okay. 183 00:08:04,791 --> 00:08:07,121 Every human being, I won't say every human being, 184 00:08:07,121 --> 00:08:09,901 but most human beings, when they take birth, they 185 00:08:09,901 --> 00:08:12,381 have a big deja vu memory. 186 00:08:13,911 --> 00:08:16,771 It's, I've seen this, I've done this, but they can't 187 00:08:16,771 --> 00:08:20,331 recall because the memory collapsing is necessary. 188 00:08:20,901 --> 00:08:23,031 That's part of the experience of making 189 00:08:23,031 --> 00:08:24,091 this world look real. 190 00:08:24,811 --> 00:08:25,851 Let me go into detail. 191 00:08:26,251 --> 00:08:27,201 And then I'll come back to it. 192 00:08:29,101 --> 00:08:30,561 All of us go to sleep at night. 193 00:08:31,551 --> 00:08:34,081 We're normally in the wakeful state of consciousness. 194 00:08:34,536 --> 00:08:36,826 Right behind these two eyeballs in the head. 195 00:08:37,896 --> 00:08:44,496 If you were to, uh, take these two fingers and, uh, go back 196 00:08:44,496 --> 00:08:46,936 here in the back of them, it would be like a pyramid. 197 00:08:47,506 --> 00:08:48,906 You know, you cross them, that's the pyramid. 198 00:08:49,506 --> 00:08:52,426 That's where that door, that tent door lies 199 00:08:52,446 --> 00:08:55,176 in the body, but it's very difficult to open. 200 00:08:55,306 --> 00:08:59,766 It is fastened, bolted down tightly, and it takes a lot 201 00:08:59,766 --> 00:09:03,446 of concentration of attention with a teacher or a guide in 202 00:09:03,446 --> 00:09:06,476 the physical world, because we don't learn anything 203 00:09:06,476 --> 00:09:07,356 except from a teacher. 204 00:09:08,021 --> 00:09:09,831 You wouldn't even know how to use the potty if your 205 00:09:09,831 --> 00:09:10,721 mother didn't teach you. 206 00:09:11,271 --> 00:09:12,531 You wouldn't know how to take a bath. 207 00:09:12,731 --> 00:09:15,511 You wouldn't even know how to walk if you just saw 208 00:09:15,511 --> 00:09:16,641 people crawling around. 209 00:09:17,911 --> 00:09:21,281 We learned everything from teachers, elementary school, 210 00:09:21,311 --> 00:09:22,651 high school, colleges. 211 00:09:23,251 --> 00:09:26,711 But when it comes to this type of awareness, beyond 212 00:09:26,711 --> 00:09:28,921 the physical state of awareness, we have to meet 213 00:09:28,921 --> 00:09:30,481 a teacher above that state. 214 00:09:31,421 --> 00:09:36,231 So I got fortunate, you know, I met this teacher and he 215 00:09:36,251 --> 00:09:38,391 taught me everything that I'm sharing with you today. 216 00:09:39,321 --> 00:09:42,746 But when I went through the tunnel, I met these people. 217 00:09:43,066 --> 00:09:44,116 I went beyond the tunnel. 218 00:09:45,126 --> 00:09:47,656 We went into the middle part of the astral plane. 219 00:09:48,646 --> 00:09:51,836 It's a gorgeous, beautiful, fantastically 220 00:09:51,836 --> 00:09:54,686 huge, gargantuan world. 221 00:09:55,656 --> 00:09:58,766 If we were to compare the astral plane with all of 222 00:09:58,766 --> 00:10:01,866 its beauty and, uh, the beings that are there, 223 00:10:02,716 --> 00:10:06,436 it would appear like a, like the Pacific Ocean. 224 00:10:07,216 --> 00:10:10,176 And our physical universe, with its trillions of 225 00:10:10,176 --> 00:10:13,306 stars and galaxies and planets, would appear like 226 00:10:13,306 --> 00:10:16,096 a quarter, the size of a quarter in the Pacific Ocean. 227 00:10:16,716 --> 00:10:18,676 The Pacific Ocean being the astral universe. 228 00:10:19,496 --> 00:10:21,226 Everything in the astral world is lit up. 229 00:10:22,466 --> 00:10:23,436 Your body is lit up. 230 00:10:23,456 --> 00:10:25,386 My body was like a golden color. 231 00:10:25,906 --> 00:10:28,516 Everybody that's in that world is highly intelligent, 232 00:10:28,726 --> 00:10:29,766 highly knowledgeable. 233 00:10:30,956 --> 00:10:32,846 Um, they're beautiful beings. 234 00:10:33,036 --> 00:10:34,556 There's no violence taking place there. 235 00:10:34,756 --> 00:10:36,126 They don't experience any pain. 236 00:10:37,186 --> 00:10:41,616 And if you, as he took me around, I saw some 237 00:10:41,616 --> 00:10:44,126 of the people there, they're scientists working 238 00:10:44,126 --> 00:10:45,086 on different projects. 239 00:10:45,526 --> 00:10:45,896 There. 240 00:10:46,006 --> 00:10:47,986 So when they take birth here, they look like they're 241 00:10:47,986 --> 00:10:49,036 making the discovery. 242 00:10:50,136 --> 00:10:52,386 They've already investigated the knowledge there. 243 00:10:52,636 --> 00:10:54,336 All of the knowledge that exists there is 244 00:10:54,336 --> 00:10:56,636 percolating through individuals in this world. 245 00:10:57,096 --> 00:10:57,626 Everything. 246 00:10:58,746 --> 00:11:03,476 So, uh, you can meet sports figure who are practicing 247 00:11:03,476 --> 00:11:07,146 their craft and they become great people when 248 00:11:07,146 --> 00:11:08,126 they come into this world. 249 00:11:08,896 --> 00:11:09,916 There's so much knowledge. 250 00:11:10,376 --> 00:11:12,796 You don't have to, uh, study books there. 251 00:11:13,966 --> 00:11:15,966 It's a tedious process even in this world. 252 00:11:17,976 --> 00:11:19,596 All you got to do is look at an object. 253 00:11:20,206 --> 00:11:21,126 You can look at a tree. 254 00:11:21,706 --> 00:11:24,316 And you can see how long it's been there. 255 00:11:24,766 --> 00:11:26,556 You can see a little bit into the future, what's 256 00:11:26,556 --> 00:11:27,326 going to happen to it. 257 00:11:28,006 --> 00:11:30,216 You can see the whole history of everybody to some extent, 258 00:11:30,976 --> 00:11:33,726 depending upon how much concentration or skills 259 00:11:33,726 --> 00:11:35,746 you develop in this world. 260 00:11:36,736 --> 00:11:40,596 So, uh, everything is lit up. 261 00:11:40,896 --> 00:11:44,036 Knowledge is easily acquired through infusion. 262 00:11:44,756 --> 00:11:46,306 You just look and it comes inside you. 263 00:11:47,426 --> 00:11:49,456 Time there is different from in the physical world. 264 00:11:50,916 --> 00:11:51,906 Space is huge. 265 00:11:52,376 --> 00:11:56,156 Time is, what do I mean by time being different? 266 00:11:57,306 --> 00:11:58,856 I'm going to go back to the physical world and 267 00:11:58,856 --> 00:11:59,986 give you an example. 268 00:12:00,716 --> 00:12:03,306 When you're in the wakeful state, the state in which I'm 269 00:12:03,306 --> 00:12:07,606 talking to you now, you feel this human body is yourself. 270 00:12:08,546 --> 00:12:11,076 And you wake up every morning, you don't 271 00:12:11,076 --> 00:12:11,936 have to pinch yourself. 272 00:12:12,136 --> 00:12:13,466 You don't even have to open your eyes. 273 00:12:14,096 --> 00:12:15,356 You feel you are awake. 274 00:12:16,446 --> 00:12:18,746 You feel you are awake because memory comes back 275 00:12:18,746 --> 00:12:19,796 into you immediately. 276 00:12:20,486 --> 00:12:22,676 Oh, I've been in this body 30, 40, 50 years. 277 00:12:22,676 --> 00:12:25,156 However old I am, that memory comes back. 278 00:12:25,556 --> 00:12:28,326 Therefore, you can write off the dream world, which lasted 279 00:12:28,526 --> 00:12:29,876 for just a few hours of sleep. 280 00:12:30,991 --> 00:12:35,471 But when we dream, three things happen to us because 281 00:12:35,501 --> 00:12:37,261 the nature of consciousness is made this way. 282 00:12:39,391 --> 00:12:43,461 We immediately create an illusionary body which 283 00:12:43,461 --> 00:12:44,451 we give to ourselves. 284 00:12:44,461 --> 00:12:47,281 We don't look at it, but we're conscious in that world. 285 00:12:48,861 --> 00:12:51,351 And when we move in that world, we also 286 00:12:51,351 --> 00:12:54,161 create space time. 287 00:12:54,721 --> 00:12:56,931 The space looks exactly like it does in this world. 288 00:12:56,931 --> 00:12:59,091 If you look into the sky, it looks just like 289 00:12:59,091 --> 00:12:59,981 the sky in this world. 290 00:13:00,811 --> 00:13:01,701 You can see stars. 291 00:13:01,701 --> 00:13:03,371 You can see airplanes flying around. 292 00:13:04,001 --> 00:13:04,821 You look at people. 293 00:13:04,861 --> 00:13:06,501 If you're walking in the streets, you see people 294 00:13:06,501 --> 00:13:07,341 working on projects. 295 00:13:07,341 --> 00:13:07,481 Thanks for watching! 296 00:13:07,981 --> 00:13:10,981 You can see a lady with a baby in a buggy moving around 297 00:13:10,981 --> 00:13:12,361 with a little newborn baby. 298 00:13:12,911 --> 00:13:15,821 You can see a construction worker on a ladder, older man, 299 00:13:16,141 --> 00:13:18,831 asking for bricks from the younger man to set them up. 300 00:13:19,391 --> 00:13:21,191 So when you see these different forms and 301 00:13:21,191 --> 00:13:24,551 different aging, you start thinking it's time going by. 302 00:13:25,091 --> 00:13:27,001 That's the illusion that is created, that you create. 303 00:13:27,791 --> 00:13:29,901 And when you wake up, you discover that you 304 00:13:29,901 --> 00:13:30,691 created everything. 305 00:13:30,701 --> 00:13:31,831 You can even eat food there. 306 00:13:32,551 --> 00:13:34,601 You can drink different liquids and they taste 307 00:13:34,601 --> 00:13:36,311 exactly like they do in the physical world. 308 00:13:37,011 --> 00:13:38,581 Consciousness has the capacity. 309 00:13:38,986 --> 00:13:42,376 To not only create, but experience at the same time. 310 00:13:43,456 --> 00:13:45,916 Therefore, you can't tell the causal direction. 311 00:13:46,666 --> 00:13:49,406 Consciousness is made with this feature to be creative 312 00:13:49,846 --> 00:13:53,116 because the creator created us and he's doing the same thing. 313 00:13:53,116 --> 00:13:58,406 Or she, excuse me, that creative power is put 314 00:13:58,446 --> 00:14:00,586 his consciousness or her consciousness inside of us, 315 00:14:00,706 --> 00:14:01,786 and it operates the same way. 316 00:14:02,636 --> 00:14:05,416 We create the same way, but we don't know how we do it. 317 00:14:06,516 --> 00:14:09,236 He knows, or she knows exactly how the process 318 00:14:09,236 --> 00:14:09,916 is taking place. 319 00:14:10,476 --> 00:14:11,716 We operate out of ignorance. 320 00:14:12,371 --> 00:14:14,041 That being operates out of knowledge. 321 00:14:14,991 --> 00:14:18,291 And so let me go back to the astral plane. 322 00:14:19,291 --> 00:14:24,261 As you, as I was in that world, suddenly my awareness 323 00:14:24,261 --> 00:14:29,231 came back that I was over 3000 years of age. 324 00:14:30,001 --> 00:14:30,831 I can doubt it. 325 00:14:31,301 --> 00:14:33,731 Nobody doubts his or her age in this world. 326 00:14:34,161 --> 00:14:37,181 Even if the president, the celebrities, the Kings, the 327 00:14:37,181 --> 00:14:40,651 rich people of this world came and told you, uh, Mr. 328 00:14:40,651 --> 00:14:43,271 Bland, that you're not as old as you are, you'll 329 00:14:43,271 --> 00:14:44,041 write them off, right? 330 00:14:45,121 --> 00:14:48,041 They cannot shake your knowledge because it's solid. 331 00:14:48,621 --> 00:14:50,941 You get solid knowledge when you're in that world. 332 00:14:50,951 --> 00:14:52,331 That world is a world of certainty. 333 00:14:52,741 --> 00:14:54,511 This world, you can have doubts. 334 00:14:55,651 --> 00:14:58,641 You can have a lack of certainty in many areas. 335 00:14:59,541 --> 00:15:03,091 Heisenberg said the more you look at smaller forms 336 00:15:03,101 --> 00:15:06,491 of matter, you cannot determine the causal 337 00:15:06,491 --> 00:15:08,221 direction or the time frame. 338 00:15:10,071 --> 00:15:11,381 In other words, he was talking about the 339 00:15:11,411 --> 00:15:14,521 uncertainty principle at the smaller portion of matter. 340 00:15:15,061 --> 00:15:16,261 But that's another subject. 341 00:15:16,571 --> 00:15:20,181 So as I'm in that world and discovering that I'm over 3, 342 00:15:20,181 --> 00:15:24,681 000 years of age, I didn't mind going to sleep there, 343 00:15:24,961 --> 00:15:26,181 which came back to this world. 344 00:15:26,641 --> 00:15:28,841 Or you can say the process of dying there, but 345 00:15:28,841 --> 00:15:29,971 actually you go to sleep. 346 00:15:30,631 --> 00:15:32,331 Just like when you wake up from a sleep, 347 00:15:32,551 --> 00:15:33,401 you wake up here. 348 00:15:33,851 --> 00:15:34,721 You cannot die. 349 00:15:34,731 --> 00:15:35,681 Consciousness is permanent. 350 00:15:36,331 --> 00:15:36,901 You cannot die. 351 00:15:36,981 --> 00:15:37,731 It's like the creator. 352 00:15:38,661 --> 00:15:41,401 And you start seeing, you can go backwards in time. 353 00:15:41,681 --> 00:15:43,031 Time can be suspended. 354 00:15:43,531 --> 00:15:44,831 You can't suspend time here. 355 00:15:45,431 --> 00:15:46,711 You can hold on to an experience. 356 00:15:47,421 --> 00:15:50,221 Just like a remote control and said let me explore it. 357 00:15:50,561 --> 00:15:53,741 Let me go back 2, 000 years ago and see what happened 358 00:15:53,741 --> 00:15:56,821 and you can go back and be in that time frame and 359 00:15:56,821 --> 00:16:00,441 watch the history in this world People write about 360 00:16:00,451 --> 00:16:03,111 history, but they can give their opinion in that world 361 00:16:03,121 --> 00:16:06,991 You can actually see history unfolding as a ghost watching 362 00:16:06,991 --> 00:16:08,171 it take place in that world. 363 00:16:09,741 --> 00:16:12,131 You can watch it You can also go into the future to 364 00:16:12,131 --> 00:16:15,511 some extent and see what's gonna happen, but not too 365 00:16:15,511 --> 00:16:19,601 far So, but anyway, going back to the astral plane. 366 00:16:21,651 --> 00:16:24,851 Teacher said, let's get out of this elementary school. 367 00:16:25,601 --> 00:16:26,531 I said, what are you talking about? 368 00:16:26,651 --> 00:16:28,031 He said, this is the elementary school of 369 00:16:28,031 --> 00:16:28,691 the spiritual world. 370 00:16:28,696 --> 00:16:29,861 It's not a high stage. 371 00:16:30,481 --> 00:16:33,391 Most people who practice with a teacher, they end up 372 00:16:33,391 --> 00:16:34,831 going to the astral plane. 373 00:16:34,831 --> 00:16:37,051 Many of 'em don't go that far into the astral world, but 374 00:16:37,051 --> 00:16:40,891 those who go far, they think that's the highest because 375 00:16:40,891 --> 00:16:44,011 all of the spiritual regions are constructed in such a way 376 00:16:44,191 --> 00:16:45,691 that you feel is the highest. 377 00:16:46,531 --> 00:16:47,491 And they're beings there. 378 00:16:47,491 --> 00:16:49,291 They're spiritual administrators that 379 00:16:49,291 --> 00:16:49,856 control that world. 380 00:16:50,831 --> 00:16:53,261 Just like in this world, in America, you got a president, 381 00:16:53,431 --> 00:16:56,531 he has a lot of power, but you can't go meet him, unless 382 00:16:56,531 --> 00:16:58,951 you know somebody who knows him well, they can take you 383 00:16:58,951 --> 00:16:59,741 and you can go meet him. 384 00:17:00,991 --> 00:17:04,071 In that world, my teacher said, I said, well, can I meet 385 00:17:04,071 --> 00:17:05,561 the president of that world? 386 00:17:06,211 --> 00:17:10,171 In this world, the Greeks used to call those gods, G O D S. 387 00:17:10,866 --> 00:17:12,106 They were spiritual administrators. 388 00:17:12,106 --> 00:17:13,396 I'm modernizing the word now. 389 00:17:13,876 --> 00:17:15,906 They have tremendous power, especially the 390 00:17:15,906 --> 00:17:18,156 super god or the super spiritual administrator. 391 00:17:18,756 --> 00:17:20,856 He controls the destiny of everybody 392 00:17:20,856 --> 00:17:21,686 in the physical world. 393 00:17:22,906 --> 00:17:25,326 How long you will live, how much, how many births you'll 394 00:17:25,396 --> 00:17:28,376 take, how many lives you'll experience, how much money 395 00:17:28,376 --> 00:17:30,946 you'll make, how many divorces or how many children you'll 396 00:17:30,956 --> 00:17:33,596 have, what type of racial composition you'll be born in. 397 00:17:34,116 --> 00:17:37,156 That being is extremely powerful, but he said, 398 00:17:37,156 --> 00:17:39,636 let's leave this because if I see that being, that 399 00:17:39,656 --> 00:17:41,866 being is going to ask me how he can go higher. 400 00:17:42,186 --> 00:17:44,616 Okay, so we left that world and we flew 401 00:17:44,616 --> 00:17:45,556 to the causal plane. 402 00:17:46,326 --> 00:17:48,926 The causal plane, I don't know how to explain it. 403 00:17:48,956 --> 00:17:51,456 I'll try to come up with words because in the 404 00:17:51,466 --> 00:17:54,066 astral plane, you don't need words to communicate. 405 00:17:54,336 --> 00:17:57,926 You can use words, but you communicate through telepathy. 406 00:17:58,766 --> 00:18:02,186 Telepathy is a beautiful process where you set 407 00:18:02,216 --> 00:18:04,791 something in your mind And the other person who's 408 00:18:04,791 --> 00:18:07,251 communicating with you, hear exactly what you're saying 409 00:18:08,491 --> 00:18:09,381 and they understand you. 410 00:18:09,381 --> 00:18:11,901 So there's no room for interpretation, 411 00:18:12,261 --> 00:18:13,131 misinterpretation. 412 00:18:13,911 --> 00:18:16,821 But in the causal world, you feel you are 413 00:18:16,821 --> 00:18:17,801 one with everything. 414 00:18:19,261 --> 00:18:21,021 You can actually become one with everything. 415 00:18:22,091 --> 00:18:24,881 It's a fantastic experience, but there is 416 00:18:25,161 --> 00:18:28,811 an administrator there who controls everything from 417 00:18:28,811 --> 00:18:30,111 that level, everything below. 418 00:18:31,271 --> 00:18:32,911 And all of these administrators are only 419 00:18:32,911 --> 00:18:34,981 in those positions for a certain amount of time. 420 00:18:35,951 --> 00:18:38,541 In the causal world, the administrator is 421 00:18:38,541 --> 00:18:39,551 considered a god too. 422 00:18:40,631 --> 00:18:43,691 The real God has created levels of counterfeit 423 00:18:43,781 --> 00:18:44,921 expressions of himself. 424 00:18:45,771 --> 00:18:48,361 So people who practice and go inside from the physical 425 00:18:48,361 --> 00:18:51,671 world and see a God that says Jesus, Buddha, they've 426 00:18:51,681 --> 00:18:53,721 been influenced by the experience in this world. 427 00:18:54,111 --> 00:18:57,991 They very seldom, if ever, ask that being, who are you? 428 00:18:59,211 --> 00:18:59,801 They don't ask. 429 00:19:00,131 --> 00:19:02,431 That being will tell them the truth, but the being 430 00:19:02,431 --> 00:19:04,651 is looking wonderful and looking spiritual. 431 00:19:04,761 --> 00:19:07,241 In some cases with a beard, they say, Oh, this must 432 00:19:07,241 --> 00:19:10,691 be Jesus or Buddha or, or some other spiritual 433 00:19:11,131 --> 00:19:12,141 Mohammed or somebody. 434 00:19:12,291 --> 00:19:12,661 Okay. 435 00:19:13,281 --> 00:19:16,761 And these spiritual teachers of the past only have gone 436 00:19:16,761 --> 00:19:18,001 so far from their teacher. 437 00:19:18,031 --> 00:19:19,721 You only can go as far as your teacher has gone. 438 00:19:20,841 --> 00:19:25,381 So as you cross the astral world, he chaperoned me. 439 00:19:25,381 --> 00:19:27,471 So I was just enjoying myself. 440 00:19:27,941 --> 00:19:30,921 We go into the causal world and he said, let's 441 00:19:30,921 --> 00:19:31,771 go beyond that place. 442 00:19:33,851 --> 00:19:38,001 And so we went beyond that place and we went into the 443 00:19:38,201 --> 00:19:39,781 world of self realization. 444 00:19:40,761 --> 00:19:42,091 It's a beautiful world where there's 445 00:19:42,091 --> 00:19:42,991 nothing but love there. 446 00:19:43,771 --> 00:19:47,371 You, for the first time, feel you do not have 447 00:19:47,371 --> 00:19:48,221 to take birth again. 448 00:19:49,001 --> 00:19:51,831 You are saved, but you're still not at the highest 449 00:19:51,831 --> 00:19:52,591 level of what God is. 450 00:19:52,681 --> 00:19:54,041 God is much higher. 451 00:19:54,051 --> 00:19:55,641 He says God is two stages higher. 452 00:19:56,461 --> 00:19:57,421 And I said, can we go see him? 453 00:19:57,421 --> 00:20:00,351 He said, no, not now. 454 00:20:01,351 --> 00:20:03,191 Because if you see him, you wouldn't want to come back. 455 00:20:03,251 --> 00:20:04,351 He'd give you so much love. 456 00:20:04,621 --> 00:20:05,851 You want to stay there. 457 00:20:06,361 --> 00:20:07,861 Even in this region, you want to stay. 458 00:20:08,111 --> 00:20:08,761 I said, yes. 459 00:20:09,071 --> 00:20:10,001 He said, but you can't stay. 460 00:20:10,011 --> 00:20:10,681 I said, why not? 461 00:20:11,811 --> 00:20:14,621 He said, you got children, you got cousins, you got 462 00:20:14,621 --> 00:20:16,271 relatives, you got different kinds of peoples, you 463 00:20:16,271 --> 00:20:17,761 got duties to perform. 464 00:20:18,796 --> 00:20:20,926 And now I discover I have to meet you, Mr. 465 00:20:20,926 --> 00:20:21,306 Bland. 466 00:20:22,176 --> 00:20:23,256 That's why I came back. 467 00:20:23,296 --> 00:20:23,696 Okay. 468 00:20:24,526 --> 00:20:25,506 So you brought me back. 469 00:20:25,516 --> 00:20:26,926 You can say all these people brought me back. 470 00:20:27,576 --> 00:20:29,106 So he said, you have to do some service. 471 00:20:29,806 --> 00:20:34,486 So after I had this conversation, the only 472 00:20:34,556 --> 00:20:37,306 explanation I can give for that world, you can say 473 00:20:37,316 --> 00:20:38,386 it's not this, not that. 474 00:20:39,246 --> 00:20:41,746 The Indian word is Nete Nete, not this, not that. 475 00:20:41,756 --> 00:20:42,526 You can't explain it. 476 00:20:42,536 --> 00:20:43,446 There's no language there. 477 00:20:44,146 --> 00:20:44,666 It's only love. 478 00:20:45,411 --> 00:20:46,401 Love and more love. 479 00:20:47,501 --> 00:20:51,321 So now let me go back to the experience I had in the 480 00:20:51,321 --> 00:20:56,281 seventies because my teacher taught me how to concentrate 481 00:20:56,286 --> 00:20:59,001 attention behind the eyes. 482 00:21:00,181 --> 00:21:02,971 The door, like I said, is about two inches behind 483 00:21:02,976 --> 00:21:04,021 these two eyeballs. 484 00:21:04,371 --> 00:21:07,191 Like in a pyramid, like if you got a dollar bill and 485 00:21:07,196 --> 00:21:11,471 you look at the dollar bill, that's a, uh, African or 486 00:21:11,701 --> 00:21:14,871 Greek symbol of the third eye. 487 00:21:16,121 --> 00:21:18,491 real symbol, but most people don't understand it's real. 488 00:21:19,281 --> 00:21:22,841 And if you know how to open up this door, which is extremely 489 00:21:22,841 --> 00:21:25,431 difficult because people are practicing meditation 490 00:21:25,431 --> 00:21:27,911 by reading books, they're practicing by listening 491 00:21:27,911 --> 00:21:31,071 to radio, by listening to programs like this, Oh, 492 00:21:31,111 --> 00:21:32,231 let me try to go inside. 493 00:21:32,281 --> 00:21:34,751 Some of them can be successful, but 494 00:21:35,291 --> 00:21:36,121 it's dangerous. 495 00:21:37,051 --> 00:21:43,191 It's almost like trying to go to, uh, uh, like say, if you 496 00:21:43,191 --> 00:21:45,761 want to go to North Korea, if you have knowledge, you 497 00:21:45,761 --> 00:21:47,321 wouldn't want to go there because they may kidnap you. 498 00:21:47,321 --> 00:21:47,721 Right? 499 00:21:48,901 --> 00:21:53,166 So if you are unaware, there are spiritual Highway 500 00:21:53,166 --> 00:21:59,476 robbers and saboteurs and cutthroats that try to rob 501 00:21:59,486 --> 00:22:00,426 you of your spiritual wealth. 502 00:22:00,456 --> 00:22:03,566 Some of them try to get inside your body and channel. 503 00:22:04,386 --> 00:22:05,636 So therefore you need a guide. 504 00:22:06,526 --> 00:22:10,996 The guide can take you to these different meandering 505 00:22:11,016 --> 00:22:14,226 territories, huge worlds that you don't know anything about 506 00:22:14,826 --> 00:22:17,196 unless your memory comes back of being there before. 507 00:22:17,976 --> 00:22:19,066 So it's dangerous. 508 00:22:19,566 --> 00:22:22,836 So I would suggest find a teacher or get lucky. 509 00:22:23,056 --> 00:22:25,556 You only can find a, any teacher that can teach you. 510 00:22:25,931 --> 00:22:28,901 And he has gone himself, or she has gone, follow that 511 00:22:28,901 --> 00:22:31,411 teacher, because it's hard to meet the highest teacher. 512 00:22:31,971 --> 00:22:35,401 You have to get lucky, just like when a lottery is taking 513 00:22:35,401 --> 00:22:37,971 place in different parts of the world, and if it's a 514 00:22:37,971 --> 00:22:40,251 billion dollars, everybody's trying to win the lottery. 515 00:22:41,011 --> 00:22:42,721 Take five dollars, two dollars, start spending 516 00:22:42,721 --> 00:22:44,101 their money hoping that they'll be a winner, 517 00:22:44,101 --> 00:22:44,941 knowing that they won't. 518 00:22:46,191 --> 00:22:49,471 And if they win, you can win with one dollar and 519 00:22:49,471 --> 00:22:53,431 become a billionaire with one dollar ticket on a multi 520 00:22:53,451 --> 00:22:55,121 billion dollar lottery game. 521 00:22:56,101 --> 00:22:56,991 That's how I won my ticket. 522 00:22:57,946 --> 00:22:59,866 But it was won by seeking. 523 00:23:00,836 --> 00:23:01,916 You have to seek. 524 00:23:02,596 --> 00:23:05,286 And in the human body, that's the only experience 525 00:23:05,586 --> 00:23:06,656 you have of seeking. 526 00:23:07,306 --> 00:23:08,976 In the other bodies, you have no free will. 527 00:23:09,806 --> 00:23:11,676 You discover that free will is unreal when you 528 00:23:11,676 --> 00:23:12,676 get into the astral world. 529 00:23:13,606 --> 00:23:18,386 But in the causal plane, I mean, in the world 530 00:23:18,406 --> 00:23:21,266 where the Lord is, there's only two individuals 531 00:23:21,266 --> 00:23:22,566 that have free will. 532 00:23:23,296 --> 00:23:26,826 The human being, out of ignorance, because the human 533 00:23:26,826 --> 00:23:28,926 being doesn't know what he or she is going to do tomorrow. 534 00:23:29,616 --> 00:23:30,546 Oh, I'm going to go to work. 535 00:23:30,546 --> 00:23:31,246 I'm going to do this. 536 00:23:31,246 --> 00:23:33,426 You can die tomorrow in a car mobile accident. 537 00:23:33,456 --> 00:23:33,866 You don't know. 538 00:23:34,926 --> 00:23:37,526 And the creator has free will out of knowledge. 539 00:23:38,086 --> 00:23:40,066 He knows exactly what's going to happen to everybody. 540 00:23:40,396 --> 00:23:42,536 Millions of years ago, he knew you would be sitting 541 00:23:42,806 --> 00:23:44,066 with a black shirt on. 542 00:23:44,076 --> 00:23:48,286 And he knew I would have a vest that says, I see, I see. 543 00:23:49,156 --> 00:23:49,956 He knew all of this. 544 00:23:50,316 --> 00:23:52,006 He knew I would be born in a black family. 545 00:23:52,446 --> 00:23:54,826 He knew that you would be born in a different racial complex. 546 00:23:55,726 --> 00:24:00,031 So, We're trying to go back to our original home and you're 547 00:24:00,031 --> 00:24:02,781 doing things that will help people get this awareness. 548 00:24:03,591 --> 00:24:06,321 I'm trying to share some of my experiences, which are 549 00:24:06,841 --> 00:24:09,831 exceptionally, extremely, exceptionally rare. 550 00:24:11,721 --> 00:24:14,091 Because the experience most people have is 551 00:24:14,091 --> 00:24:15,021 of the astral plane. 552 00:24:15,781 --> 00:24:16,431 That's the heavens. 553 00:24:16,451 --> 00:24:18,081 That's where all of the heavens and hells exist. 554 00:24:18,391 --> 00:24:19,561 They don't know anything about that. 555 00:24:19,571 --> 00:24:21,141 They get into heaven, they say, oh, I'm in heaven. 556 00:24:21,171 --> 00:24:24,091 They are in heaven, but they go come back 557 00:24:24,091 --> 00:24:25,441 here and seek deeper. 558 00:24:26,041 --> 00:24:27,051 What makes you seek deeper? 559 00:24:27,351 --> 00:24:28,371 Lessons that you learn. 560 00:24:29,166 --> 00:24:32,396 Let me give you a superficial lesson that most people 561 00:24:33,956 --> 00:24:35,826 know, but they don't know until somebody tell them. 562 00:24:37,656 --> 00:24:41,276 Say if you're in your automobile and you're 563 00:24:41,276 --> 00:24:43,696 riding down the road, sir, everybody's had this 564 00:24:43,706 --> 00:24:48,476 experience and suddenly you're surprised and shocked by a 565 00:24:48,476 --> 00:24:51,786 squirrel or a chicken running the path of your automobile. 566 00:24:52,286 --> 00:24:55,666 Without thinking, sir, your first instinct would 567 00:24:55,676 --> 00:24:56,406 be to put on brakes. 568 00:24:57,076 --> 00:24:58,836 Every human being will say it. 569 00:24:59,256 --> 00:25:02,086 Even people who kill people will, because the body has 570 00:25:02,086 --> 00:25:07,896 a DNA instinct, which takes over and automatically reacts 571 00:25:08,076 --> 00:25:09,276 like a non violent species. 572 00:25:09,866 --> 00:25:11,626 We are a non violent species. 573 00:25:12,546 --> 00:25:15,486 You got 8, 400, 000 species has been estimated in the 574 00:25:15,486 --> 00:25:17,206 physical planet of Earth. 575 00:25:18,316 --> 00:25:20,566 And they are all divided into two categories. 576 00:25:20,906 --> 00:25:23,036 Violent species, non violent species. 577 00:25:23,896 --> 00:25:27,136 The non violent species are made like human 578 00:25:27,136 --> 00:25:28,776 beings, anatomically. 579 00:25:29,576 --> 00:25:30,576 Let me give you an example. 580 00:25:31,826 --> 00:25:36,426 We sweat through our skin, all non violent species, 581 00:25:36,426 --> 00:25:38,446 horses, cows, sheep, they sweat through the skin. 582 00:25:39,536 --> 00:25:41,236 On the other hand, the violent species, they 583 00:25:41,236 --> 00:25:42,026 sweat through the tongue. 584 00:25:42,526 --> 00:25:45,966 Wolves, dogs, cats, lions, they sweat through the tongue. 585 00:25:46,706 --> 00:25:49,956 The non violent species got flat teeth, just like 586 00:25:49,956 --> 00:25:53,996 we have flat teeth, and they're, they're meant 587 00:25:54,006 --> 00:25:56,006 to eat plant based food. 588 00:25:56,326 --> 00:25:57,246 Now, that's a big shocker. 589 00:25:57,936 --> 00:25:58,596 I'll explain that. 590 00:25:58,596 --> 00:26:01,136 If you look at the cows, horses, and sheep, 591 00:26:01,576 --> 00:26:02,676 they will eat no meat. 592 00:26:03,376 --> 00:26:04,986 They'll walk by, smell it, and walk away. 593 00:26:04,986 --> 00:26:06,936 No matter how well it's been cooked by a sheep, 594 00:26:07,096 --> 00:26:07,976 how much it smells. 595 00:26:08,441 --> 00:26:11,021 They follow their DNA principle. 596 00:26:11,711 --> 00:26:14,281 We would follow ours, but we follow it when an animal 597 00:26:14,281 --> 00:26:15,031 runs in front of the car. 598 00:26:16,161 --> 00:26:18,751 Our mothers, our parents, they messed us up as a child. 599 00:26:19,161 --> 00:26:21,591 They gave us chicken, fish, ham, all kinds of meat. 600 00:26:21,991 --> 00:26:22,771 And we loved it. 601 00:26:22,791 --> 00:26:27,111 So we became like meat addicts, like a drug addict 602 00:26:27,371 --> 00:26:30,261 is hung up on cocaine and he wants to withdraw. 603 00:26:30,791 --> 00:26:33,421 He goes to see a doctor, the doctor give him some 604 00:26:35,431 --> 00:26:39,031 methadone, but there are foods in this world. 605 00:26:39,431 --> 00:26:41,211 You probably have it in your part of the world. 606 00:26:42,126 --> 00:26:44,816 Where, I don't know if you got a Burger King over there, but 607 00:26:44,816 --> 00:26:48,416 if you do, they have expanded their plant based food. 608 00:26:48,436 --> 00:26:50,996 They have an impossible burger, which you can't 609 00:26:50,996 --> 00:26:52,126 tell the difference when you eat it. 610 00:26:52,136 --> 00:26:53,586 It tastes just like a real hamburger. 611 00:26:53,856 --> 00:26:56,746 Made entirely from plants with no cholesterol. 612 00:26:56,886 --> 00:26:58,116 Plants have no cholesterol. 613 00:26:58,446 --> 00:27:01,086 Meat are saturated and overflowing with cholesterol. 614 00:27:01,476 --> 00:27:03,756 Which can give us heart attacks, strokes, clog up 615 00:27:03,756 --> 00:27:04,896 our veins and arteries. 616 00:27:05,536 --> 00:27:09,926 So, as we make progress in this area of food and 617 00:27:09,926 --> 00:27:12,786 nutrition, that's something that we have to learn. 618 00:27:13,591 --> 00:27:15,941 In the physical world, but you do good action, you still 619 00:27:16,001 --> 00:27:20,261 can go to heaven, but your karma will bring you back 620 00:27:21,081 --> 00:27:24,831 because you created pain either directly or through 621 00:27:24,831 --> 00:27:29,271 the, uh, slaughterhouse being hitmans for you and 622 00:27:29,271 --> 00:27:32,591 wrapping these animals up in cellophane and you enjoy them. 623 00:27:32,671 --> 00:27:33,711 So you got to pay a price. 624 00:27:34,381 --> 00:27:36,981 That's a shared price for the people in the 625 00:27:36,981 --> 00:27:39,231 slaughterhouse and the people who slaughter the animals 626 00:27:39,411 --> 00:27:40,221 and for us who eat them. 627 00:27:41,211 --> 00:27:45,601 So at this point, uh, I'm gonna... 628 00:27:46,741 --> 00:27:48,711 Turn it over to you to ask me questions or 629 00:27:48,721 --> 00:27:49,831 anybody in your audience. 630 00:27:50,491 --> 00:27:53,871 And I hope I share some experiences of mine. 631 00:27:54,961 --> 00:27:57,991 And I had this experience, uh, back in 1970, when 632 00:27:59,561 --> 00:28:01,991 I was meditating, uh, I meditated and as he said, 633 00:28:02,001 --> 00:28:06,591 uh, the thing that comes in the way is our attention. 634 00:28:06,601 --> 00:28:08,821 Our attention is being cluttered by thoughts. 635 00:28:10,001 --> 00:28:14,431 We cannot be physically in a wakeful state without 636 00:28:14,431 --> 00:28:15,391 thinking all the time. 637 00:28:16,086 --> 00:28:18,626 Scientists and psychologists have estimated that 638 00:28:18,626 --> 00:28:22,066 over 60, 000 thoughts go through our mind every day. 639 00:28:22,656 --> 00:28:24,016 So, how to shut down thinking. 640 00:28:24,886 --> 00:28:27,146 When we get sleepy, we get drowsier and fainter. 641 00:28:27,606 --> 00:28:30,166 And the thinking process starts slowing down and we 642 00:28:30,186 --> 00:28:33,256 drop from the sixth floor, which is the wakeful state. 643 00:28:33,256 --> 00:28:34,736 There are many floors in this body, by the way. 644 00:28:35,206 --> 00:28:36,046 We're on the sixth floor. 645 00:28:36,636 --> 00:28:40,306 Most of us live out our entire life on the fifth 646 00:28:40,306 --> 00:28:42,266 floor, which is in this area of the body, the throat. 647 00:28:42,786 --> 00:28:43,486 Or the fifth floor. 648 00:28:44,191 --> 00:28:44,921 I mean, the sixth floor. 649 00:28:45,451 --> 00:28:47,331 We don't know that the seventh floor is the astral plane. 650 00:28:48,051 --> 00:28:49,411 We only go there when we die. 651 00:28:50,021 --> 00:28:52,791 But anyway, in meditation, what makes you die? 652 00:28:54,391 --> 00:28:55,621 There are two ways to die. 653 00:28:56,861 --> 00:28:57,831 Two techniques. 654 00:28:59,061 --> 00:29:02,441 One, accidental death, gunshot wounds, strokes, 655 00:29:02,531 --> 00:29:06,051 heart attack, excessive trauma to the physical body, 656 00:29:06,741 --> 00:29:08,321 excessive pain forces you out. 657 00:29:09,501 --> 00:29:11,621 And nobody really wants to go that route because 658 00:29:11,621 --> 00:29:13,231 they don't know if they're going to come back. 659 00:29:13,231 --> 00:29:14,571 They don't know what's going to happen. 660 00:29:15,381 --> 00:29:16,561 And then there's the conscious way. 661 00:29:18,016 --> 00:29:20,776 But everybody that dies will hear a strange noise. 662 00:29:22,216 --> 00:29:23,976 Your audience, if they want to read about this, 663 00:29:23,976 --> 00:29:25,716 they can get a book by Dr. 664 00:29:25,716 --> 00:29:28,156 Raymond Moody, who's a bestseller. 665 00:29:28,986 --> 00:29:32,046 He was on Oprah Winfrey in Chicago a long time ago. 666 00:29:32,076 --> 00:29:32,726 He's still living. 667 00:29:33,506 --> 00:29:37,166 And he went around to hospital and talked to 668 00:29:37,496 --> 00:29:40,756 thousands of patients who had clinical death experiences. 669 00:29:41,351 --> 00:29:45,061 And all of them who had memory, when they came back 670 00:29:45,061 --> 00:29:48,151 into the physical body, talk about a strange noise, which 671 00:29:48,151 --> 00:29:49,081 he mentions in his book. 672 00:29:49,681 --> 00:29:51,421 That noise is like a humming sound. 673 00:29:51,421 --> 00:29:53,861 It's like electricity going through a wire. 674 00:29:54,251 --> 00:29:56,531 It can like, be like, cricket sounds. 675 00:29:56,841 --> 00:29:57,961 It takes on different sounds. 676 00:29:57,971 --> 00:30:00,291 It can sound like the gushing of the wind, which Christ 677 00:30:00,301 --> 00:30:03,021 talks about in the Bible. 678 00:30:03,511 --> 00:30:08,391 I believe that's in, uh, John, 8th chapter. 679 00:30:09,231 --> 00:30:13,631 Uh, I mean the 3rd chapter, 8th to the 12th verse. 680 00:30:13,781 --> 00:30:16,141 He talks about, you have to be born again. 681 00:30:16,596 --> 00:30:19,286 When he talked about born again, uh, Nicodemus didn't 682 00:30:19,286 --> 00:30:20,126 know what he was saying. 683 00:30:20,436 --> 00:30:21,656 He said, how can I be born again? 684 00:30:21,656 --> 00:30:23,396 Can I enter my mother's womb a second time? 685 00:30:23,616 --> 00:30:24,986 He said, no, look at Nicodemus. 686 00:30:24,996 --> 00:30:28,486 He laughed at him and said, you have to, in essence, 687 00:30:29,056 --> 00:30:32,086 get out of this body and take birth and become a 688 00:30:32,086 --> 00:30:33,346 citizen in the astral plane. 689 00:30:34,216 --> 00:30:36,766 I'm modernizing the language, but Nicodemus didn't 690 00:30:36,766 --> 00:30:37,546 know what he was saying. 691 00:30:38,296 --> 00:30:42,236 Nicodemus eventually became a after being around. 692 00:30:44,376 --> 00:30:44,946 Jesus. 693 00:30:45,406 --> 00:30:49,416 But anyway, going back to, uh, this experience of getting 694 00:30:49,416 --> 00:30:53,566 out of the body when I was meditating in my closet, uh, 695 00:30:53,576 --> 00:30:54,946 I was having great difficulty. 696 00:30:55,436 --> 00:30:57,586 I wrote my teacher a letter because I started 697 00:30:57,586 --> 00:30:58,786 hearing some strange noise. 698 00:30:59,226 --> 00:31:02,786 And one night, I would get up at two, three o'clock 699 00:31:02,786 --> 00:31:04,466 and start meditating for four or five hours. 700 00:31:04,466 --> 00:31:06,666 You only have to do, he said, two hours, two and 701 00:31:06,666 --> 00:31:09,066 a half hours, which is 10 percent of your time. 702 00:31:10,186 --> 00:31:11,866 He said, God doesn't want any of your money. 703 00:31:11,866 --> 00:31:13,576 You can give it away if you want it for charity. 704 00:31:13,956 --> 00:31:15,966 When he said 10 percent tithing, he's talking 705 00:31:15,976 --> 00:31:16,716 about attention. 706 00:31:17,451 --> 00:31:19,551 Attention is the most valuable thing to him. 707 00:31:20,611 --> 00:31:21,371 That is your wealth. 708 00:31:22,051 --> 00:31:23,941 That is your wealth that you can use to go back. 709 00:31:24,461 --> 00:31:27,151 And as you develop concentration, you can take 710 00:31:27,151 --> 00:31:29,311 that wealth or that money to the astral plane and 711 00:31:29,311 --> 00:31:31,551 you can travel into the astral world, depending 712 00:31:31,551 --> 00:31:33,831 on how much concentration or how much money, 713 00:31:33,831 --> 00:31:34,821 spiritual money you have. 714 00:31:34,871 --> 00:31:35,801 You understand what I'm saying? 715 00:31:36,341 --> 00:31:37,661 Just like you can travel in this world. 716 00:31:37,681 --> 00:31:39,131 If you've got millions of dollars, you can go all 717 00:31:39,131 --> 00:31:41,321 around the world several times, live in mansions. 718 00:31:42,451 --> 00:31:44,471 But Oh, one thing I didn't say about the astral 719 00:31:44,471 --> 00:31:48,401 plane, you can create houses by thinking there. 720 00:31:50,336 --> 00:31:51,686 These houses can be in the sky. 721 00:31:51,706 --> 00:31:52,576 There's no gravity. 722 00:31:52,576 --> 00:31:53,656 You can put them on the land. 723 00:31:54,686 --> 00:31:58,126 People go and they see designers in that world 724 00:31:58,126 --> 00:32:00,096 and designers can match, give them a mansion. 725 00:32:00,436 --> 00:32:03,356 They can get in that mansion and they can move around 726 00:32:03,756 --> 00:32:04,806 because you can just fly. 727 00:32:05,326 --> 00:32:06,346 You don't need an airplane. 728 00:32:06,356 --> 00:32:08,786 You can create vehicles for moving around in if you wish, 729 00:32:09,736 --> 00:32:12,986 but you can just fly and move at great speeds and go as 730 00:32:12,986 --> 00:32:15,136 far as your spiritual money will take you in that world. 731 00:32:16,256 --> 00:32:18,726 But anyway, I don't mean to jump around, but. 732 00:32:19,101 --> 00:32:21,021 When I heard this sound, it scared the hell out of me. 733 00:32:22,201 --> 00:32:25,461 Cause I started feeling like I'm getting out of the body. 734 00:32:25,951 --> 00:32:27,711 And I feel like I couldn't breathe. 735 00:32:27,741 --> 00:32:28,391 I was choking. 736 00:32:29,021 --> 00:32:31,131 Then you get to a point where you don't have no control. 737 00:32:31,471 --> 00:32:34,661 Because that noise starts pulling you up like a vacuum 738 00:32:34,661 --> 00:32:35,731 cleaner out of this body. 739 00:32:36,151 --> 00:32:36,891 And it scared me. 740 00:32:36,921 --> 00:32:38,091 So I wrote a letter to my teacher. 741 00:32:38,091 --> 00:32:38,801 He was in India. 742 00:32:39,181 --> 00:32:40,601 Before he came here to visit me. 743 00:32:40,861 --> 00:32:41,801 But that's another story. 744 00:32:42,361 --> 00:32:43,501 And he said, look, don't worry. 745 00:32:43,501 --> 00:32:44,311 I will be there. 746 00:32:44,701 --> 00:32:46,301 I'm going to meet you when you get out. 747 00:32:46,901 --> 00:32:47,781 Why are you fearful? 748 00:32:47,781 --> 00:32:48,581 I understand fear. 749 00:32:49,071 --> 00:32:51,401 But get out one time and you'll lose most of your fear. 750 00:32:52,261 --> 00:32:54,491 So the people who have this experience, 751 00:32:54,491 --> 00:32:55,391 they hear this noise. 752 00:32:55,901 --> 00:32:59,061 And some of them have talked about in that book, it 753 00:32:59,061 --> 00:33:00,951 turns into a bell sound. 754 00:33:01,361 --> 00:33:06,371 The bell sound or a sound like a train going under a bridge. 755 00:33:07,671 --> 00:33:08,421 A loud sound. 756 00:33:08,861 --> 00:33:10,371 It pulls you out of the body and takes you 757 00:33:10,371 --> 00:33:11,291 into the astral world. 758 00:33:12,036 --> 00:33:13,796 But then there's another sound which takes you 759 00:33:13,816 --> 00:33:16,226 out of the astral plane into the causal world. 760 00:33:16,666 --> 00:33:20,476 Every level of consciousness has different tonal, musical, 761 00:33:20,546 --> 00:33:22,136 harmonious vibration. 762 00:33:23,186 --> 00:33:26,686 It's almost like water flowing through some rocks. 763 00:33:26,776 --> 00:33:28,046 It creates another sound, right? 764 00:33:28,506 --> 00:33:29,456 It's flowing on sand. 765 00:33:29,486 --> 00:33:30,676 Sand creates a sound. 766 00:33:30,946 --> 00:33:32,426 Through grass, it creates a sound. 767 00:33:33,576 --> 00:33:36,216 So as it goes through a different region, it's the 768 00:33:36,256 --> 00:33:38,396 same sound in the Bible. 769 00:33:38,436 --> 00:33:40,456 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was God. 770 00:33:40,946 --> 00:33:42,046 They're talking about that sound. 771 00:33:42,046 --> 00:33:43,626 God is like a vibratory energy. 772 00:33:44,471 --> 00:33:46,501 He doesn't speak to us in English or in 773 00:33:46,501 --> 00:33:47,451 Spanish or French. 774 00:33:48,541 --> 00:33:50,611 When he speaks to you, if you hear him, you won't 775 00:33:50,611 --> 00:33:54,501 leave the body because his voice is all powerful. 776 00:33:54,791 --> 00:33:55,551 He takes you up. 777 00:33:56,141 --> 00:33:57,731 You are his child, his children. 778 00:33:58,751 --> 00:34:00,641 You will experience fear because nobody wants 779 00:34:00,641 --> 00:34:04,191 to die, not even an ant, not even a roach. 780 00:34:05,241 --> 00:34:07,791 So you have to learn this lesson while you're on 781 00:34:07,821 --> 00:34:10,001 earth to be non violent. 782 00:34:11,271 --> 00:34:12,261 Don't kill anything. 783 00:34:12,611 --> 00:34:15,041 Only eat that which doesn't run away from you. 784 00:34:15,801 --> 00:34:16,711 What doesn't run away? 785 00:34:17,261 --> 00:34:22,051 Strawberries, apples, oranges, peas, uh, all kinds of plants. 786 00:34:22,741 --> 00:34:23,751 That's what you're meant to eat. 787 00:34:24,191 --> 00:34:25,101 But you've been addicted. 788 00:34:25,101 --> 00:34:27,181 So if you're addicted, and if your audience is addicted, 789 00:34:27,751 --> 00:34:29,881 there's a company in Illinois. 790 00:34:30,791 --> 00:34:32,111 I'm just going to flash this up. 791 00:34:32,121 --> 00:34:36,011 I hope you can see it. 792 00:34:36,651 --> 00:34:40,511 Nonviolent food and its effect on human attention. 793 00:34:42,146 --> 00:34:45,896 And the company that manufactures this food, uh, if 794 00:34:45,926 --> 00:34:47,916 you want to get in touch with him, it's MiracleFoodsGlobal. 795 00:34:49,256 --> 00:34:49,576 com. 796 00:34:50,896 --> 00:34:52,906 MiracleFoods with an S on it, Global. 797 00:34:53,146 --> 00:34:53,436 com. 798 00:34:54,226 --> 00:34:55,616 And you can change your eating habits. 799 00:34:56,196 --> 00:35:02,366 So at this time, when I had that experience, uh, and 800 00:35:02,386 --> 00:35:05,576 I've discovered my teacher has so much power and I was 801 00:35:05,576 --> 00:35:09,126 struggling with meditation in the seventies and he said, 802 00:35:09,126 --> 00:35:13,396 look, as we were walking, when he came to visit me and we 803 00:35:13,396 --> 00:35:16,456 went to a spiritual frontier meeting in Pennsylvania. 804 00:35:17,206 --> 00:35:19,396 And as I was walking, he said, how's your meditation? 805 00:35:19,766 --> 00:35:20,786 I said, it's difficult. 806 00:35:21,356 --> 00:35:24,366 I said, I've been struggling for, for a few years and 807 00:35:24,366 --> 00:35:26,786 I haven't been able to get, but the embryonic 808 00:35:26,796 --> 00:35:27,936 expression of that sound. 809 00:35:28,616 --> 00:35:29,636 And it scared me once. 810 00:35:29,636 --> 00:35:32,226 He said, listen, I'll talk to my teacher. 811 00:35:33,096 --> 00:35:36,286 One thing about these highly developed souls, they act like 812 00:35:36,286 --> 00:35:37,346 they don't have any power. 813 00:35:38,666 --> 00:35:39,616 Jesus talked like that. 814 00:35:39,616 --> 00:35:42,046 I talked to my father when somebody asked 815 00:35:42,046 --> 00:35:44,256 him to do something and he would play games. 816 00:35:44,886 --> 00:35:46,906 But anyway, He said, I'll talk to my teacher. 817 00:35:46,916 --> 00:35:48,986 You sit in meditation and see what happens tonight. 818 00:35:49,746 --> 00:35:52,486 So I went and sat in meditation and I said, I'm not 819 00:35:52,486 --> 00:35:56,236 going to do any repetition of a mantra because the mantra 820 00:35:56,236 --> 00:35:59,226 is to stop that mind from running all over the place. 821 00:35:59,236 --> 00:36:01,476 It's like a wild horse jumping on council parts. 822 00:36:02,106 --> 00:36:02,746 And I just sat. 823 00:36:03,316 --> 00:36:07,056 Then the sound came and it got louder and louder and pulled 824 00:36:07,066 --> 00:36:10,306 me up and I got out of the body and I couldn't go that 825 00:36:10,306 --> 00:36:13,586 far, but I went up to know that this body was not me. 826 00:36:13,586 --> 00:36:16,086 I saw my body sitting in a lotus position. 827 00:36:16,956 --> 00:36:20,516 So At this time, I'd like to turn this 828 00:36:20,736 --> 00:36:21,736 group back over to you. 829 00:36:22,226 --> 00:36:24,426 And if you have any questions or anybody in your audience, 830 00:36:25,186 --> 00:36:27,526 tell them to, they can ask me or you can ask me. 831 00:36:28,116 --> 00:36:30,316 So thank you for all the attention you gave me. 832 00:36:30,316 --> 00:36:32,816 And if they wish to get in touch with me, they can 833 00:36:32,816 --> 00:36:37,606 contact me, uh, Professor Brinson, B R I N S O N, 834 00:36:38,386 --> 00:36:42,036 uh, and I'm on YouTube and, or they can go to 835 00:36:43,026 --> 00:36:48,026 the YouTube channel, i seek, S E E K dot org. 836 00:36:49,236 --> 00:36:51,016 Thank you for your unmerited attention. 837 00:36:51,511 --> 00:36:53,581 Rod Bland: Okay, so I just have, I have one question 838 00:36:53,581 --> 00:36:56,491 for you, Professor, which is, well actually there's two. 839 00:36:56,961 --> 00:36:59,811 Your friend who, your Indian friend who met you 840 00:36:59,811 --> 00:37:01,981 when you had your near death experience, was he 841 00:37:01,981 --> 00:37:05,141 actually still alive or is he already passed on? 842 00:37:05,646 --> 00:37:09,436 Dean Brinson: Oh, he passed away in 2020. 843 00:37:09,641 --> 00:37:10,121 Rod Bland: Okay. 844 00:37:10,376 --> 00:37:11,426 Dean Brinson: He was 94 years of 845 00:37:11,771 --> 00:37:12,161 Rod Bland: Alright. 846 00:37:12,476 --> 00:37:14,386 Dean Brinson: I was with him for almost 40 some years. 847 00:37:15,016 --> 00:37:18,986 I've been on the spiritual path, uh, about almost, 848 00:37:19,246 --> 00:37:20,386 almost 50 years now. 849 00:37:20,551 --> 00:37:20,951 Rod Bland: Alright. 850 00:37:21,531 --> 00:37:24,491 That must have been, uh, you must be surprised to see him. 851 00:37:27,356 --> 00:37:27,966 Dean Brinson: Oh, yes. 852 00:37:28,376 --> 00:37:29,396 He said he'll be there. 853 00:37:29,666 --> 00:37:31,616 That's how these spiritual teachers, if 854 00:37:31,616 --> 00:37:33,146 they highly developed, that's how they operate. 855 00:37:33,671 --> 00:37:36,591 Wouldn't you rather be chaperoned and don't have to 856 00:37:36,591 --> 00:37:40,651 think and just ride like you were when you were a child 857 00:37:40,651 --> 00:37:43,351 and went to Disney World and your parents were there, 858 00:37:43,961 --> 00:37:45,841 but if you lost their hands, you would panic, right? 859 00:37:45,841 --> 00:37:46,381 Where they at? 860 00:37:46,971 --> 00:37:50,021 So as long as your parents are there, you can ride 861 00:37:50,051 --> 00:37:50,941 and enjoy yourself. 862 00:37:51,421 --> 00:37:52,961 That's how we need to enjoy this world. 863 00:37:54,101 --> 00:37:56,631 You can draw all of the worlds like that to have 864 00:37:56,681 --> 00:37:59,671 a chaperone who's highly developed and he goes along 865 00:37:59,671 --> 00:38:02,041 with you as you travel. 866 00:38:02,731 --> 00:38:06,261 And he's at the eye center waiting on me all the time. 867 00:38:07,571 --> 00:38:08,051 Experience. 868 00:38:08,861 --> 00:38:10,581 Rod Bland: so he was like, he was your spiritual 869 00:38:10,581 --> 00:38:11,271 guide, wasn't he? 870 00:38:11,921 --> 00:38:12,801 And I have one other 871 00:38:12,891 --> 00:38:13,611 Dean Brinson: Yes, spiritual guidance. 872 00:38:13,716 --> 00:38:14,136 Rod Bland: for you. 873 00:38:14,766 --> 00:38:16,326 Uh, which is about free will. 874 00:38:16,346 --> 00:38:17,566 So you mentioned free will. 875 00:38:17,836 --> 00:38:19,506 I'm not quite sure if I understood you correctly, 876 00:38:19,506 --> 00:38:22,016 but my impression was that you felt like we don't 877 00:38:22,036 --> 00:38:24,056 have a lot of free will or very little free will. 878 00:38:24,076 --> 00:38:25,656 Could you just talk a little bit more about that? 879 00:38:25,896 --> 00:38:27,336 Particularly our experience here. 880 00:38:29,321 --> 00:38:32,371 Dean Brinson: All the religions say that God 881 00:38:32,401 --> 00:38:33,471 is omniscient, right? 882 00:38:35,061 --> 00:38:36,221 Which means he knows everything. 883 00:38:36,841 --> 00:38:39,121 He's everywhere present, but we can't see him. 884 00:38:39,311 --> 00:38:41,091 He's in that vibrational form, okay? 885 00:38:41,961 --> 00:38:43,791 And he's all knowledgeable, he's all aware, 886 00:38:43,791 --> 00:38:44,551 he's all powerful. 887 00:38:45,731 --> 00:38:48,541 So if he knows everything, then he knows exactly what 888 00:38:48,541 --> 00:38:50,551 you were going to do today. 889 00:38:51,171 --> 00:38:54,211 You know, you're going to have some ear things over 890 00:38:54,211 --> 00:38:55,181 your ear so you can hear. 891 00:38:55,321 --> 00:38:57,501 He knew you're going to be dressed in a black t shirt. 892 00:38:57,511 --> 00:38:59,621 He knew I was going to be black, a white t shirt 893 00:38:59,621 --> 00:39:01,791 with a vest with glasses. 894 00:39:02,661 --> 00:39:03,591 He knew all of this. 895 00:39:04,601 --> 00:39:06,851 So that means we don't have free will, but he 896 00:39:06,851 --> 00:39:08,061 did a wonderful trick. 897 00:39:09,701 --> 00:39:13,071 And it's easy for us to discover it just by realizing 898 00:39:13,071 --> 00:39:13,901 what I'm about to say. 899 00:39:16,391 --> 00:39:19,001 Uh, we don't know. 900 00:39:19,741 --> 00:39:21,461 What's going to happen tomorrow or next year? 901 00:39:22,361 --> 00:39:23,511 We don't know if we're going to be here. 902 00:39:24,151 --> 00:39:25,821 We could get shot by a drive by shooter. 903 00:39:26,491 --> 00:39:27,721 We could get locked up in jail. 904 00:39:27,731 --> 00:39:28,671 We could get divorced. 905 00:39:28,671 --> 00:39:31,501 We could, anything can happen, but we have the feeling we 906 00:39:31,501 --> 00:39:32,871 can do what we want tomorrow. 907 00:39:33,931 --> 00:39:36,721 You feel in your mind, Oh, I can go rob a bank. 908 00:39:37,261 --> 00:39:38,371 I can go kill somebody. 909 00:39:38,421 --> 00:39:39,331 That feeling is there. 910 00:39:39,761 --> 00:39:42,801 And that's the illusionary feeling he gives us, which 911 00:39:42,801 --> 00:39:46,731 means he has made us in his image by creating an illusion. 912 00:39:47,071 --> 00:39:49,726 When they said we made in the image of God, They mean we 913 00:39:49,726 --> 00:39:54,656 made in the image of how we exercise will not in terms 914 00:39:54,656 --> 00:39:56,576 of the body, but in the will. 915 00:39:57,656 --> 00:40:01,166 So any person of any religion will have to admit 916 00:40:01,166 --> 00:40:03,346 that God knows everything and the answers in that. 917 00:40:04,036 --> 00:40:06,816 But the mechanical process, I just explained. 918 00:40:07,116 --> 00:40:09,876 You don't know what's going to happen tomorrow, but you feel 919 00:40:09,886 --> 00:40:11,056 you're going to go to work. 920 00:40:11,306 --> 00:40:12,986 You feel you're going to get up and get in your car. 921 00:40:13,136 --> 00:40:14,876 You feel you're going to say hello to your children. 922 00:40:15,266 --> 00:40:16,996 You feel this way, but you can have a heart attack 923 00:40:16,996 --> 00:40:19,876 and die and be in a casket in a few days, right? 924 00:40:20,176 --> 00:40:20,876 Or get burned. 925 00:40:23,371 --> 00:40:24,791 he created a wonderful thing. 926 00:40:25,551 --> 00:40:28,391 So there are only two beings in creation that has 927 00:40:28,391 --> 00:40:29,551 the feeling of free will. 928 00:40:30,151 --> 00:40:32,191 The ultimate creator and human being. 929 00:40:33,011 --> 00:40:35,891 Human being got this feeling of free will out of ignorance. 930 00:40:36,801 --> 00:40:38,661 He has it out of knowledge, so he admires us. 931 00:40:40,251 --> 00:40:42,201 are jealous of us because they don't have any free will. 932 00:40:42,201 --> 00:40:43,361 They can't even seek God. 933 00:40:45,641 --> 00:40:47,561 They don't have to come back to this world to get 934 00:40:47,561 --> 00:40:49,081 the feeling to seek him. 935 00:40:49,961 --> 00:40:52,001 And many of them don't want to leave this beautiful region 936 00:40:52,001 --> 00:40:53,631 of heaven and come back. 937 00:40:54,661 --> 00:40:57,671 It's almost like you being a millionaire in Hollywood in a 938 00:40:57,671 --> 00:40:59,581 mansion and then you go there. 939 00:41:00,066 --> 00:41:01,846 And that being, they said, look, you say, 940 00:41:01,846 --> 00:41:02,606 I want to go higher. 941 00:41:02,606 --> 00:41:04,626 If you meet such a high being, he said, you got to go 942 00:41:04,636 --> 00:41:08,346 back and live in the ghetto and catch it and suffer. 943 00:41:09,376 --> 00:41:12,496 You said most likely you said no, or you'd be born blind. 944 00:41:12,716 --> 00:41:14,666 But time would look different when you in the astral 945 00:41:14,666 --> 00:41:18,576 plane, you know, 50, 60, 70 years and you 35, 4, 946 00:41:18,776 --> 00:41:20,936 000 years of age, that looked like going to sleep 947 00:41:20,946 --> 00:41:21,786 for a little while there. 948 00:41:22,496 --> 00:41:25,606 That's how you be bribed by those high beings. 949 00:41:25,706 --> 00:41:28,926 If you meet them there, makes sense. 950 00:41:29,486 --> 00:41:29,886 Rod Bland: All right. 951 00:41:29,886 --> 00:41:31,116 I get, I get what you're saying. 952 00:41:31,776 --> 00:41:35,556 Uh, Professor Brinson, I appreciate your time 953 00:41:35,556 --> 00:41:40,296 today and your attention and um, I appreciate you 954 00:41:40,316 --> 00:41:41,356 coming on my show today. 955 00:41:44,246 --> 00:41:46,476 Dean Brinson: Thank you for giving me this opportunity 956 00:41:46,476 --> 00:41:49,146 to share this knowledge with any of your audience. 957 00:41:49,586 --> 00:41:52,486 And if they wish to get in touch with me, uh, they can.