Rod Bland: My guest today is Professor Dean Brinson, who
had a near death experience, and he's here to talk about
that experience today.
Professor Brinson, welcome and thank you so much
for coming on the show.
Dean Brinson: You're more than welcome.
Rod Bland: All right, so tell us what happened, Professor.
Dean Brinson: Okay.
Let me give you a little background on myself.
Uh, I have taught school.
in the Chicago school system, uh, for about 17 years at
all levels, elementary, high school, and also
taught at the college level.
But I was extremely curious for knowledge.
All my life, I was curious.
So I was never satisfied with the Western understanding
of real knowledge.
I always felt there was some knowledge deeper than
what they talked about.
So I've traveled around the world many times,
and I ended up...
Going through Europe, uh, through different parts of
the Middle East, Japan, and I ended up in India, and
I fell in love with that country because they have so
many spiritual, uh, teachers over there and guides, and
all of the religions of the world, major religion, come
from that part of the world.
We have imported them over here, and we think
we know more than them.
It's considered a third world country, and I was
fortunate to come in contact with a high government
official who befriended me.
He taught me so much about spirituality.
He said he had a teacher at an early age, which taught
him how to consciously get out of the body and come back.
That shocked me to my core.
I said, what?
He said, yes, this body is constructed in such a way that
it has, uh, nine doors on it.
I said, what do you mean by doors?
He said, actually it's ten, but I'll tell
you about the nine.
You got two eyeballs, which are apertures,
which are holes.
Which captures your attention and takes it
into the physical world.
You have two doors at the earlobe level.
These are holes, which you hear sounds in this world.
It captures you and holds you at the physical level.
Then you got two doors at the nostril level, where
you breathe scents into this world, all kinds of odors.
And that holds your attention into the physical world.
And then you have a mouth.
And that mouth does too much talking, so I laughed.
He said, you should listen because you got two ears.
You can learn more.
When you talk, ask questions to someone who
has higher knowledge.
And that person can teach you.
I said, you just told me it's possible to
get out of this body.
I'm still fascinated.
He said, yes.
But these doors are holding your attention.
So far I've described, he said, how many
doors have I described?
I said, seven.
He said, but you got two more, one at the reproductive
organ and one at the buttocks.
Most of the men in this world live at the
reproductive organ.
All their attention is flowing down there.
You ask the women and they'll tell you.
That's what they want.
And then he described, you have to be able to
reverse the flow of your attention from outside
into this world to inside.
And the creator or the universe has designed
this human body in such a way that it is possible.
And so he went into detail and he said his teacher
taught him how to do this.
So, uh, I would practice, uh, and I'll go into that
after I had my immediate experience back in 2019, I'll
come back to that experience.
But when I was, uh, going to the hospital in 2019
in the spring, uh, my wife insisted that I go
and get a colonoscopy.
And we got into a small argument.
Uh, I was supposed to get a hip surgery.
I said, I'll get one later on.
She said, well, at least get your colonoscopy done.
So she made the preparation for me to see a colonoscopist
at Rush Hospital, which is near downtown in Chicago.
So as we proceed, she put me in a wheelchair,
and she was acting very courteous and ladylike.
So as we go up to the fourth floor in that hospital
to see the colonoscopist, who's supposed to do
a colonoscopy on me.
I said, well, I don't need this.
She said, keep your mouth closed.
I said, look, I've been eating plant based food
for almost 50 years.
All of my organs and veins and arteries are
as clean, no cholesterol, and as pure as the snow.
She said, keep your so and so mouth closed.
You know how wives can get after you and argue.
So I was quiet.
So as she wheeled me into the fourth floor of the hospital
room to see the colonoscopist, I quietly and noiselessly
I had a heart attack.
I didn't even feel a heart attack.
I died and the Rush Hospital got all of my records
concerning this experience.
And as I died, I found myself out of the body
looking at the doctors who my wife had got into a panic
state and called everybody.
Strangely enough, the universe had provided a cardiologist
to be on that floor.
He was not supposed to be on that floor.
And so he gathered some nurses and people around
him and they asked for a different instrument to
try to resuscitate me.
And I was watching this process.
They cut off my expensive coat that I had worn and I
tried to grab their hands.
My hands went through their body, just like
in the movie Ghosts with Patrick Swayze, Demi
Moore, and Whoopi Goldberg.
Because when you're in that body, you are a ghost.
They can't see you.
You can hear them.
As a matter of fact, you can actually read their thoughts.
of what is going on in their mind.
We try to do this in this world, but we
block by the inhibiting factor of the grossness
of this physical body.
These senses in this world are restricted.
So as you get out of this body, you discover that the
untetheredness of the soul inside the physical body
gets released and you find yourself in an astral body.
So as I got into that body, I was with my
friend whom I had met.
Over 40 some years ago, had experiences and taught
me earlier how to do this.
But when I had this heart attack, he came,
he met me, and he said, what are you doing?
You know, you can't play with these people.
They can't hear you.
Let's get out of here.
So we, he chaperoned me.
We flew through the roof at tremendous speed.
I said, I want to see the sun.
So we went to the sun and saw all of the nuclear
explosion taking place.
Great heat coming out.
You couldn't feel anything.
He said, why are you wasting your time on
this boring experience?
You experience the sunlight every day.
Let's get out of here.
So we flew beyond the sun, trillions and trillions
of stars and planets and galaxies, and we
entered the astral plane.
But before we entered that plane, we went
through a tunnel.
And in that tunnel, there were human beings that I
had met and known in the 1600s, 1700s, even earlier.
And I didn't know everybody, but some were coming
back through that tunnel and they recognized me.
And they gave me a name, which I had at that time,
and I acted like that was me.
I knew them, and they said, uh, you going this
way, we coming that way.
We understand that, uh, you, I said, I'm in America, Chicago.
Well, that's where we want to go.
And I said, they said, what's your phone
number, where you live?
I gave them that information, knowing that when they become
a baby, they will get into a state of Alzheimer's,
spiritual Alzheimer's.
A state of unforgetfulness.
Okay.
Every human being, I won't say every human being,
but most human beings, when they take birth, they
have a big deja vu memory.
It's, I've seen this, I've done this, but they can't
recall because the memory collapsing is necessary.
That's part of the experience of making
this world look real.
Let me go into detail.
And then I'll come back to it.
All of us go to sleep at night.
We're normally in the wakeful state of consciousness.
Right behind these two eyeballs in the head.
If you were to, uh, take these two fingers and, uh, go back
here in the back of them, it would be like a pyramid.
You know, you cross them, that's the pyramid.
That's where that door, that tent door lies
in the body, but it's very difficult to open.
It is fastened, bolted down tightly, and it takes a lot
of concentration of attention with a teacher or a guide in
the physical world, because we don't learn anything
except from a teacher.
You wouldn't even know how to use the potty if your
mother didn't teach you.
You wouldn't know how to take a bath.
You wouldn't even know how to walk if you just saw
people crawling around.
We learned everything from teachers, elementary school,
high school, colleges.
But when it comes to this type of awareness, beyond
the physical state of awareness, we have to meet
a teacher above that state.
So I got fortunate, you know, I met this teacher and he
taught me everything that I'm sharing with you today.
But when I went through the tunnel, I met these people.
I went beyond the tunnel.
We went into the middle part of the astral plane.
It's a gorgeous, beautiful, fantastically
huge, gargantuan world.
If we were to compare the astral plane with all of
its beauty and, uh, the beings that are there,
it would appear like a, like the Pacific Ocean.
And our physical universe, with its trillions of
stars and galaxies and planets, would appear like
a quarter, the size of a quarter in the Pacific Ocean.
The Pacific Ocean being the astral universe.
Everything in the astral world is lit up.
Your body is lit up.
My body was like a golden color.
Everybody that's in that world is highly intelligent,
highly knowledgeable.
Um, they're beautiful beings.
There's no violence taking place there.
They don't experience any pain.
And if you, as he took me around, I saw some
of the people there, they're scientists working
on different projects.
There.
So when they take birth here, they look like they're
making the discovery.
They've already investigated the knowledge there.
All of the knowledge that exists there is
percolating through individuals in this world.
Everything.
So, uh, you can meet sports figure who are practicing
their craft and they become great people when
they come into this world.
There's so much knowledge.
You don't have to, uh, study books there.
It's a tedious process even in this world.
All you got to do is look at an object.
You can look at a tree.
And you can see how long it's been there.
You can see a little bit into the future, what's
going to happen to it.
You can see the whole history of everybody to some extent,
depending upon how much concentration or skills
you develop in this world.
So, uh, everything is lit up.
Knowledge is easily acquired through infusion.
You just look and it comes inside you.
Time there is different from in the physical world.
Space is huge.
Time is, what do I mean by time being different?
I'm going to go back to the physical world and
give you an example.
When you're in the wakeful state, the state in which I'm
talking to you now, you feel this human body is yourself.
And you wake up every morning, you don't
have to pinch yourself.
You don't even have to open your eyes.
You feel you are awake.
You feel you are awake because memory comes back
into you immediately.
Oh, I've been in this body 30, 40, 50 years.
However old I am, that memory comes back.
Therefore, you can write off the dream world, which lasted
for just a few hours of sleep.
But when we dream, three things happen to us because
the nature of consciousness is made this way.
We immediately create an illusionary body which
we give to ourselves.
We don't look at it, but we're conscious in that world.
And when we move in that world, we also
create space time.
The space looks exactly like it does in this world.
If you look into the sky, it looks just like
the sky in this world.
You can see stars.
You can see airplanes flying around.
You look at people.
If you're walking in the streets, you see people
working on projects.
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You can see a lady with a baby in a buggy moving around
with a little newborn baby.
You can see a construction worker on a ladder, older man,
asking for bricks from the younger man to set them up.
So when you see these different forms and
different aging, you start thinking it's time going by.
That's the illusion that is created, that you create.
And when you wake up, you discover that you
created everything.
You can even eat food there.
You can drink different liquids and they taste
exactly like they do in the physical world.
Consciousness has the capacity.
To not only create, but experience at the same time.
Therefore, you can't tell the causal direction.
Consciousness is made with this feature to be creative
because the creator created us and he's doing the same thing.
Or she, excuse me, that creative power is put
his consciousness or her consciousness inside of us,
and it operates the same way.
We create the same way, but we don't know how we do it.
He knows, or she knows exactly how the process
is taking place.
We operate out of ignorance.
That being operates out of knowledge.
And so let me go back to the astral plane.
As you, as I was in that world, suddenly my awareness
came back that I was over 3000 years of age.
I can doubt it.
Nobody doubts his or her age in this world.
Even if the president, the celebrities, the Kings, the
rich people of this world came and told you, uh, Mr.
Bland, that you're not as old as you are, you'll
write them off, right?
They cannot shake your knowledge because it's solid.
You get solid knowledge when you're in that world.
That world is a world of certainty.
This world, you can have doubts.
You can have a lack of certainty in many areas.
Heisenberg said the more you look at smaller forms
of matter, you cannot determine the causal
direction or the time frame.
In other words, he was talking about the
uncertainty principle at the smaller portion of matter.
But that's another subject.
So as I'm in that world and discovering that I'm over 3,
000 years of age, I didn't mind going to sleep there,
which came back to this world.
Or you can say the process of dying there, but
actually you go to sleep.
Just like when you wake up from a sleep,
you wake up here.
You cannot die.
Consciousness is permanent.
You cannot die.
It's like the creator.
And you start seeing, you can go backwards in time.
Time can be suspended.
You can't suspend time here.
You can hold on to an experience.
Just like a remote control and said let me explore it.
Let me go back 2, 000 years ago and see what happened
and you can go back and be in that time frame and
watch the history in this world People write about
history, but they can give their opinion in that world
You can actually see history unfolding as a ghost watching
it take place in that world.
You can watch it You can also go into the future to
some extent and see what's gonna happen, but not too
far So, but anyway, going back to the astral plane.
Teacher said, let's get out of this elementary school.
I said, what are you talking about?
He said, this is the elementary school of
the spiritual world.
It's not a high stage.
Most people who practice with a teacher, they end up
going to the astral plane.
Many of 'em don't go that far into the astral world, but
those who go far, they think that's the highest because
all of the spiritual regions are constructed in such a way
that you feel is the highest.
And they're beings there.
They're spiritual administrators that
control that world.
Just like in this world, in America, you got a president,
he has a lot of power, but you can't go meet him, unless
you know somebody who knows him well, they can take you
and you can go meet him.
In that world, my teacher said, I said, well, can I meet
the president of that world?
In this world, the Greeks used to call those gods, G O D S.
They were spiritual administrators.
I'm modernizing the word now.
They have tremendous power, especially the
super god or the super spiritual administrator.
He controls the destiny of everybody
in the physical world.
How long you will live, how much, how many births you'll
take, how many lives you'll experience, how much money
you'll make, how many divorces or how many children you'll
have, what type of racial composition you'll be born in.
That being is extremely powerful, but he said,
let's leave this because if I see that being, that
being is going to ask me how he can go higher.
Okay, so we left that world and we flew
to the causal plane.
The causal plane, I don't know how to explain it.
I'll try to come up with words because in the
astral plane, you don't need words to communicate.
You can use words, but you communicate through telepathy.
Telepathy is a beautiful process where you set
something in your mind And the other person who's
communicating with you, hear exactly what you're saying
and they understand you.
So there's no room for interpretation,
misinterpretation.
But in the causal world, you feel you are
one with everything.
You can actually become one with everything.
It's a fantastic experience, but there is
an administrator there who controls everything from
that level, everything below.
And all of these administrators are only
in those positions for a certain amount of time.
In the causal world, the administrator is
considered a god too.
The real God has created levels of counterfeit
expressions of himself.
So people who practice and go inside from the physical
world and see a God that says Jesus, Buddha, they've
been influenced by the experience in this world.
They very seldom, if ever, ask that being, who are you?
They don't ask.
That being will tell them the truth, but the being
is looking wonderful and looking spiritual.
In some cases with a beard, they say, Oh, this must
be Jesus or Buddha or, or some other spiritual
Mohammed or somebody.
Okay.
And these spiritual teachers of the past only have gone
so far from their teacher.
You only can go as far as your teacher has gone.
So as you cross the astral world, he chaperoned me.
So I was just enjoying myself.
We go into the causal world and he said, let's
go beyond that place.
And so we went beyond that place and we went into the
world of self realization.
It's a beautiful world where there's
nothing but love there.
You, for the first time, feel you do not have
to take birth again.
You are saved, but you're still not at the highest
level of what God is.
God is much higher.
He says God is two stages higher.
And I said, can we go see him?
He said, no, not now.
Because if you see him, you wouldn't want to come back.
He'd give you so much love.
You want to stay there.
Even in this region, you want to stay.
I said, yes.
He said, but you can't stay.
I said, why not?
He said, you got children, you got cousins, you got
relatives, you got different kinds of peoples, you
got duties to perform.
And now I discover I have to meet you, Mr.
Bland.
That's why I came back.
Okay.
So you brought me back.
You can say all these people brought me back.
So he said, you have to do some service.
So after I had this conversation, the only
explanation I can give for that world, you can say
it's not this, not that.
The Indian word is Nete Nete, not this, not that.
You can't explain it.
There's no language there.
It's only love.
Love and more love.
So now let me go back to the experience I had in the
seventies because my teacher taught me how to concentrate
attention behind the eyes.
The door, like I said, is about two inches behind
these two eyeballs.
Like in a pyramid, like if you got a dollar bill and
you look at the dollar bill, that's a, uh, African or
Greek symbol of the third eye.
real symbol, but most people don't understand it's real.
And if you know how to open up this door, which is extremely
difficult because people are practicing meditation
by reading books, they're practicing by listening
to radio, by listening to programs like this, Oh,
let me try to go inside.
Some of them can be successful, but
it's dangerous.
It's almost like trying to go to, uh, uh, like say, if you
want to go to North Korea, if you have knowledge, you
wouldn't want to go there because they may kidnap you.
Right?
So if you are unaware, there are spiritual Highway
robbers and saboteurs and cutthroats that try to rob
you of your spiritual wealth.
Some of them try to get inside your body and channel.
So therefore you need a guide.
The guide can take you to these different meandering
territories, huge worlds that you don't know anything about
unless your memory comes back of being there before.
So it's dangerous.
So I would suggest find a teacher or get lucky.
You only can find a, any teacher that can teach you.
And he has gone himself, or she has gone, follow that
teacher, because it's hard to meet the highest teacher.
You have to get lucky, just like when a lottery is taking
place in different parts of the world, and if it's a
billion dollars, everybody's trying to win the lottery.
Take five dollars, two dollars, start spending
their money hoping that they'll be a winner,
knowing that they won't.
And if they win, you can win with one dollar and
become a billionaire with one dollar ticket on a multi
billion dollar lottery game.
That's how I won my ticket.
But it was won by seeking.
You have to seek.
And in the human body, that's the only experience
you have of seeking.
In the other bodies, you have no free will.
You discover that free will is unreal when you
get into the astral world.
But in the causal plane, I mean, in the world
where the Lord is, there's only two individuals
that have free will.
The human being, out of ignorance, because the human
being doesn't know what he or she is going to do tomorrow.
Oh, I'm going to go to work.
I'm going to do this.
You can die tomorrow in a car mobile accident.
You don't know.
And the creator has free will out of knowledge.
He knows exactly what's going to happen to everybody.
Millions of years ago, he knew you would be sitting
with a black shirt on.
And he knew I would have a vest that says, I see, I see.
He knew all of this.
He knew I would be born in a black family.
He knew that you would be born in a different racial complex.
So, We're trying to go back to our original home and you're
doing things that will help people get this awareness.
I'm trying to share some of my experiences, which are
exceptionally, extremely, exceptionally rare.
Because the experience most people have is
of the astral plane.
That's the heavens.
That's where all of the heavens and hells exist.
They don't know anything about that.
They get into heaven, they say, oh, I'm in heaven.
They are in heaven, but they go come back
here and seek deeper.
What makes you seek deeper?
Lessons that you learn.
Let me give you a superficial lesson that most people
know, but they don't know until somebody tell them.
Say if you're in your automobile and you're
riding down the road, sir, everybody's had this
experience and suddenly you're surprised and shocked by a
squirrel or a chicken running the path of your automobile.
Without thinking, sir, your first instinct would
be to put on brakes.
Every human being will say it.
Even people who kill people will, because the body has
a DNA instinct, which takes over and automatically reacts
like a non violent species.
We are a non violent species.
You got 8, 400, 000 species has been estimated in the
physical planet of Earth.
And they are all divided into two categories.
Violent species, non violent species.
The non violent species are made like human
beings, anatomically.
Let me give you an example.
We sweat through our skin, all non violent species,
horses, cows, sheep, they sweat through the skin.
On the other hand, the violent species, they
sweat through the tongue.
Wolves, dogs, cats, lions, they sweat through the tongue.
The non violent species got flat teeth, just like
we have flat teeth, and they're, they're meant
to eat plant based food.
Now, that's a big shocker.
I'll explain that.
If you look at the cows, horses, and sheep,
they will eat no meat.
They'll walk by, smell it, and walk away.
No matter how well it's been cooked by a sheep,
how much it smells.
They follow their DNA principle.
We would follow ours, but we follow it when an animal
runs in front of the car.
Our mothers, our parents, they messed us up as a child.
They gave us chicken, fish, ham, all kinds of meat.
And we loved it.
So we became like meat addicts, like a drug addict
is hung up on cocaine and he wants to withdraw.
He goes to see a doctor, the doctor give him some
methadone, but there are foods in this world.
You probably have it in your part of the world.
Where, I don't know if you got a Burger King over there, but
if you do, they have expanded their plant based food.
They have an impossible burger, which you can't
tell the difference when you eat it.
It tastes just like a real hamburger.
Made entirely from plants with no cholesterol.
Plants have no cholesterol.
Meat are saturated and overflowing with cholesterol.
Which can give us heart attacks, strokes, clog up
our veins and arteries.
So, as we make progress in this area of food and
nutrition, that's something that we have to learn.
In the physical world, but you do good action, you still
can go to heaven, but your karma will bring you back
because you created pain either directly or through
the, uh, slaughterhouse being hitmans for you and
wrapping these animals up in cellophane and you enjoy them.
So you got to pay a price.
That's a shared price for the people in the
slaughterhouse and the people who slaughter the animals
and for us who eat them.
So at this point, uh, I'm gonna...
Turn it over to you to ask me questions or
anybody in your audience.
And I hope I share some experiences of mine.
And I had this experience, uh, back in 1970, when
I was meditating, uh, I meditated and as he said,
uh, the thing that comes in the way is our attention.
Our attention is being cluttered by thoughts.
We cannot be physically in a wakeful state without
thinking all the time.
Scientists and psychologists have estimated that
over 60, 000 thoughts go through our mind every day.
So, how to shut down thinking.
When we get sleepy, we get drowsier and fainter.
And the thinking process starts slowing down and we
drop from the sixth floor, which is the wakeful state.
There are many floors in this body, by the way.
We're on the sixth floor.
Most of us live out our entire life on the fifth
floor, which is in this area of the body, the throat.
Or the fifth floor.
I mean, the sixth floor.
We don't know that the seventh floor is the astral plane.
We only go there when we die.
But anyway, in meditation, what makes you die?
There are two ways to die.
Two techniques.
One, accidental death, gunshot wounds, strokes,
heart attack, excessive trauma to the physical body,
excessive pain forces you out.
And nobody really wants to go that route because
they don't know if they're going to come back.
They don't know what's going to happen.
And then there's the conscious way.
But everybody that dies will hear a strange noise.
Your audience, if they want to read about this,
they can get a book by Dr.
Raymond Moody, who's a bestseller.
He was on Oprah Winfrey in Chicago a long time ago.
He's still living.
And he went around to hospital and talked to
thousands of patients who had clinical death experiences.
And all of them who had memory, when they came back
into the physical body, talk about a strange noise, which
he mentions in his book.
That noise is like a humming sound.
It's like electricity going through a wire.
It can like, be like, cricket sounds.
It takes on different sounds.
It can sound like the gushing of the wind, which Christ
talks about in the Bible.
I believe that's in, uh, John, 8th chapter.
Uh, I mean the 3rd chapter, 8th to the 12th verse.
He talks about, you have to be born again.
When he talked about born again, uh, Nicodemus didn't
know what he was saying.
He said, how can I be born again?
Can I enter my mother's womb a second time?
He said, no, look at Nicodemus.
He laughed at him and said, you have to, in essence,
get out of this body and take birth and become a
citizen in the astral plane.
I'm modernizing the language, but Nicodemus didn't
know what he was saying.
Nicodemus eventually became a after being around.
Jesus.
But anyway, going back to, uh, this experience of getting
out of the body when I was meditating in my closet, uh,
I was having great difficulty.
I wrote my teacher a letter because I started
hearing some strange noise.
And one night, I would get up at two, three o'clock
and start meditating for four or five hours.
You only have to do, he said, two hours, two and
a half hours, which is 10 percent of your time.
He said, God doesn't want any of your money.
You can give it away if you want it for charity.
When he said 10 percent tithing, he's talking
about attention.
Attention is the most valuable thing to him.
That is your wealth.
That is your wealth that you can use to go back.
And as you develop concentration, you can take
that wealth or that money to the astral plane and
you can travel into the astral world, depending
on how much concentration or how much money,
spiritual money you have.
You understand what I'm saying?
Just like you can travel in this world.
If you've got millions of dollars, you can go all
around the world several times, live in mansions.
But Oh, one thing I didn't say about the astral
plane, you can create houses by thinking there.
These houses can be in the sky.
There's no gravity.
You can put them on the land.
People go and they see designers in that world
and designers can match, give them a mansion.
They can get in that mansion and they can move around
because you can just fly.
You don't need an airplane.
You can create vehicles for moving around in if you wish,
but you can just fly and move at great speeds and go as
far as your spiritual money will take you in that world.
But anyway, I don't mean to jump around, but.
When I heard this sound, it scared the hell out of me.
Cause I started feeling like I'm getting out of the body.
And I feel like I couldn't breathe.
I was choking.
Then you get to a point where you don't have no control.
Because that noise starts pulling you up like a vacuum
cleaner out of this body.
And it scared me.
So I wrote a letter to my teacher.
He was in India.
Before he came here to visit me.
But that's another story.
And he said, look, don't worry.
I will be there.
I'm going to meet you when you get out.
Why are you fearful?
I understand fear.
But get out one time and you'll lose most of your fear.
So the people who have this experience,
they hear this noise.
And some of them have talked about in that book, it
turns into a bell sound.
The bell sound or a sound like a train going under a bridge.
A loud sound.
It pulls you out of the body and takes you
into the astral world.
But then there's another sound which takes you
out of the astral plane into the causal world.
Every level of consciousness has different tonal, musical,
harmonious vibration.
It's almost like water flowing through some rocks.
It creates another sound, right?
It's flowing on sand.
Sand creates a sound.
Through grass, it creates a sound.
So as it goes through a different region, it's the
same sound in the Bible.
In the beginning was the Word and the Word was God.
They're talking about that sound.
God is like a vibratory energy.
He doesn't speak to us in English or in
Spanish or French.
When he speaks to you, if you hear him, you won't
leave the body because his voice is all powerful.
He takes you up.
You are his child, his children.
You will experience fear because nobody wants
to die, not even an ant, not even a roach.
So you have to learn this lesson while you're on
earth to be non violent.
Don't kill anything.
Only eat that which doesn't run away from you.
What doesn't run away?
Strawberries, apples, oranges, peas, uh, all kinds of plants.
That's what you're meant to eat.
But you've been addicted.
So if you're addicted, and if your audience is addicted,
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So at this time, when I had that experience, uh, and
I've discovered my teacher has so much power and I was
struggling with meditation in the seventies and he said,
look, as we were walking, when he came to visit me and we
went to a spiritual frontier meeting in Pennsylvania.
And as I was walking, he said, how's your meditation?
I said, it's difficult.
I said, I've been struggling for, for a few years and
I haven't been able to get, but the embryonic
expression of that sound.
And it scared me once.
He said, listen, I'll talk to my teacher.
One thing about these highly developed souls, they act like
they don't have any power.
Jesus talked like that.
I talked to my father when somebody asked
him to do something and he would play games.
But anyway, He said, I'll talk to my teacher.
You sit in meditation and see what happens tonight.
So I went and sat in meditation and I said, I'm not
going to do any repetition of a mantra because the mantra
is to stop that mind from running all over the place.
It's like a wild horse jumping on council parts.
And I just sat.
Then the sound came and it got louder and louder and pulled
me up and I got out of the body and I couldn't go that
far, but I went up to know that this body was not me.
I saw my body sitting in a lotus position.
So At this time, I'd like to turn this
group back over to you.
And if you have any questions or anybody in your audience,
tell them to, they can ask me or you can ask me.
So thank you for all the attention you gave me.
And if they wish to get in touch with me, they can
contact me, uh, Professor Brinson, B R I N S O N,
uh, and I'm on YouTube and, or they can go to
the YouTube channel, i seek, S E E K dot org.
Thank you for your unmerited attention.
Rod Bland: Okay, so I just have, I have one question
for you, Professor, which is, well actually there's two.
Your friend who, your Indian friend who met you
when you had your near death experience, was he
actually still alive or is he already passed on?
Dean Brinson: Oh, he passed away in 2020.
Rod Bland: Okay.
Dean Brinson: He was 94 years of
Rod Bland: Alright.
Dean Brinson: I was with him for almost 40 some years.
I've been on the spiritual path, uh, about almost,
almost 50 years now.
Rod Bland: Alright.
That must have been, uh, you must be surprised to see him.
Dean Brinson: Oh, yes.
He said he'll be there.
That's how these spiritual teachers, if
they highly developed, that's how they operate.
Wouldn't you rather be chaperoned and don't have to
think and just ride like you were when you were a child
and went to Disney World and your parents were there,
but if you lost their hands, you would panic, right?
Where they at?
So as long as your parents are there, you can ride
and enjoy yourself.
That's how we need to enjoy this world.
You can draw all of the worlds like that to have
a chaperone who's highly developed and he goes along
with you as you travel.
And he's at the eye center waiting on me all the time.
Experience.
Rod Bland: so he was like, he was your spiritual
guide, wasn't he?
And I have one other
Dean Brinson: Yes, spiritual guidance.
Rod Bland: for you.
Uh, which is about free will.
So you mentioned free will.
I'm not quite sure if I understood you correctly,
but my impression was that you felt like we don't
have a lot of free will or very little free will.
Could you just talk a little bit more about that?
Particularly our experience here.
Dean Brinson: All the religions say that God
is omniscient, right?
Which means he knows everything.
He's everywhere present, but we can't see him.
He's in that vibrational form, okay?
And he's all knowledgeable, he's all aware,
he's all powerful.
So if he knows everything, then he knows exactly what
you were going to do today.
You know, you're going to have some ear things over
your ear so you can hear.
He knew you're going to be dressed in a black t shirt.
He knew I was going to be black, a white t shirt
with a vest with glasses.
He knew all of this.
So that means we don't have free will, but he
did a wonderful trick.
And it's easy for us to discover it just by realizing
what I'm about to say.
Uh, we don't know.
What's going to happen tomorrow or next year?
We don't know if we're going to be here.
We could get shot by a drive by shooter.
We could get locked up in jail.
We could get divorced.
We could, anything can happen, but we have the feeling we
can do what we want tomorrow.
You feel in your mind, Oh, I can go rob a bank.
I can go kill somebody.
That feeling is there.
And that's the illusionary feeling he gives us, which
means he has made us in his image by creating an illusion.
When they said we made in the image of God, They mean we
made in the image of how we exercise will not in terms
of the body, but in the will.
So any person of any religion will have to admit
that God knows everything and the answers in that.
But the mechanical process, I just explained.
You don't know what's going to happen tomorrow, but you feel
you're going to go to work.
You feel you're going to get up and get in your car.
You feel you're going to say hello to your children.
You feel this way, but you can have a heart attack
and die and be in a casket in a few days, right?
Or get burned.
he created a wonderful thing.
So there are only two beings in creation that has
the feeling of free will.
The ultimate creator and human being.
Human being got this feeling of free will out of ignorance.
He has it out of knowledge, so he admires us.
are jealous of us because they don't have any free will.
They can't even seek God.
They don't have to come back to this world to get
the feeling to seek him.
And many of them don't want to leave this beautiful region
of heaven and come back.
It's almost like you being a millionaire in Hollywood in a
mansion and then you go there.
And that being, they said, look, you say,
I want to go higher.
If you meet such a high being, he said, you got to go
back and live in the ghetto and catch it and suffer.
You said most likely you said no, or you'd be born blind.
But time would look different when you in the astral
plane, you know, 50, 60, 70 years and you 35, 4,
000 years of age, that looked like going to sleep
for a little while there.
That's how you be bribed by those high beings.
If you meet them there, makes sense.
Rod Bland: All right.
I get, I get what you're saying.
Uh, Professor Brinson, I appreciate your time
today and your attention and um, I appreciate you
coming on my show today.
Dean Brinson: Thank you for giving me this opportunity
to share this knowledge with any of your audience.
And if they wish to get in touch with me, uh, they can.