Kyle Wood: yeah, it was really helpful for me to see why something which
I'd already realized, which is in business, people operate differently.
You know, I work with a lot of people who self employed people and run their
bit in business and had just seen all the different ways people had found success.
And, um, used to really frustrate me seeing You know, products marketed
and things like that and coaches out there who are very much like
this is the one way to success.
And so human design was really reaffirming for me to be like, yeah, okay.
I'm right.
Like that there is not one way.
There is lots of pathways and, and here's a way I can help people
find their individual pathway.
All right, there we go.
I was like warm, I was warm, and now I'm chilly, so I'm going to be
moving around a lot as we record this episode, just so you know.
Brandi Healy: Sounds great.
I have a fan on in here.
It's very warm here.
Kyle Wood: Oh yeah, yeah, uh, yes, I keep seeing, uh, like people from the
Northern Hemisphere, they're, you know, gradually becoming browner and browner as,
as they're, they get their summer tan on.
Um, yeah, it's, it's always a weird thing.
Uh, but it's
Brandi Healy: Now you know how we feel over Christmas.
Kyle Wood: it's not as weird as like, which you probably get, this happens as
well, and apologies to those listening because we're just diving in here, but
you, you probably get as well, like people go to, to Bali or something
like that from Australia during winter time and suddenly they've got this
like full tan in July, which is not typically when people are tanned.
Uh, it does stand out quite a lot.
Brandi Healy: that's what I'm saying.
Like over the holidays, it's like, I see you and your family
and you're all on the beach
Kyle Wood: ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, yeah.
Brandi Healy: this is some bullshit.
Love that for you, but also super jealous.
My beach is gray.
Kyle Wood: Yeah, because it's not like you get a white Christmas
or something novel like that.
You just get grey.
Brandi Healy: Yeah, but I mean, it's, I should not complain.
It's one of the loveliest places to live.
So, you know, there's that.
I don't think I would enjoy a white Christmas.
I'm not built for cold like
Kyle Wood: No.
Need the warmth.
Um, yeah.
Yeah, I like both.
I like, I like the seasons.
I don't, I mean, Granted, our winter is just windy and
cold, not freezing with snow.
Uh, but anyway, I should introduce today's episode.
So welcome those of you listening.
Welcome.
This is the well designed podcast.
My name is Kyle Wood and the other person you've been hearing
talking is my co host Brandy Healy.
And today we thought it'd be interesting to talk about.
How we found human design and why, like we even, why it piqued our
interest, what, what was it about it that, um, that got us excited, um, and
how did it feel and things like that.
So we'll just like walk you through our stories of, of how it came
into our lives and, uh, hopefully, yeah, this is something that you
guys would like listening to.
Brandi Healy: So, you go, how about you go first?
I'm, you know, curious to hear a little bit about how human design
was introduced to you, and what were your first thoughts about it?
Kyle Wood: Okay, so I, I realized there's this thing inside of me where I
can't tell you about something without being that annoying person who has
to like backtrack and tell you the whole story leading up to the story.
Brandi Healy: I want the story.
This is projector to projector here.
I'm here, I'm here to go deep.
I'm not here for surface level, so bring
Kyle Wood: Yeah, it's like just, just give me the thing because context is
so, I feel like so important and maybe it was just like watching, being, you
know, that TV generation and watching a lot of movies, the, um, the hero's
journey just got like locked into me.
Brandi Healy: Let's hear the origin
Kyle Wood: The origin story.
Yes, so, uh, cast your minds back to 2020, um, and The actually as the
pandemic was reaching its fingers across the world and you know, we're sort of
getting these weekends where it's like, okay, you just got to stay in the house.
Now.
Um, I was currently going through a launch in my business and I
was like, ah, do I keep going?
Um, and.
There, uh, another lady I follow, uh, Jenny Blake, who runs a business, uh,
back then she ran a podcast called Pivot, now she runs a podcast called Free Time,
um, she does this sort of cool thing where she starts a new podcast whenever
she writes a book, which is kind of a cool way to build, do her marketing,
she's not big on social media and stuff.
Anyway, I really liked the stuff she was talking about in that she had
a membership area called Momentum.
And I, this is something I've noticed that we'll talk about this through the
lens of human design, that generators, maybe because they're often looking
for efficiency, things that help them be sort of efficient, um, and, and
get things done, that the language appeals to me as a projector as well.
Um, because it's about, usually about like using your time better.
So this, this sort of mastermind group really appealed to me and, uh, I was like,
all right, you know, despite everything else going on, I'm going to sign up to it
because like I need some help and support.
Um, so it was in that group that someone first mentioned human design
in front of me and it was Jenny.
I think, I don't know if she was looking for a podcast guest or what, but she,
she popped in the group chat one day and was like, Hey, has anyone heard about.
Like, does, who do people follow online about human design?
And I was like, human, like, what is this?
Like, human design, what, what's this, this thing?
And anyway, someone, uh, recommended, um, Erin Claire Jones.
It's his website.
Who, you know, we both did our training with.
And I had a look at her website, and I was like, this is really interesting.
This is kind of like, I'd just been...
You know, learning a bit about Enneagram and, you know, previously had
learned heaps about Myers Briggs and Clifton strengths and stuff like that.
So I was like, oh, cool, like a new, a new personality thing.
Um, I looked up my chart, which was, um, on the, like the official,
like that jovian archive.com
Brandi Healy: yep.
Kyle Wood: and, and got my thing and I was a projector and they had like a free book.
So I read a little about, a bit about the projector and I was like,
oh yeah, this, this resonates.
Pretty well, but I at the time I wasn't really interested in like,
you know The next step on that website is kind of like do courses
and and I wasn't really interested in that So I just kind of left it.
I think I signed up to Aaron's email newsletter
Um, and, and then, which I like, I want to learn about this later.
I just sign up to the person's email newsletter and then if I like their
emails, I'll sort of engage more, but otherwise just unsubscribe.
And uh, and yeah, and at that point she was only sending like one email a month.
So um, yeah, so that, that was how I initially got, um,
introduced to human design in, in Kyle, Kyle's long story format.
Uh, Do you, do you want me to continue, cause then obviously that was like, I
sort of forgot about it, or do you want to share now how you first got introduced
and then we come back to my story?
Brandi Healy: Yeah, maybe we do a little flip back and forth because I feel like
our journeys are going to converge, right?
Kyle Wood: Yeah.
Yep.
So, so how,
Brandi Healy: also not only our orange like our individual origin stories
But it's like our origin story of our partnership without even knowing it.
Kyle Wood: Yeah.
Brandi Healy: so
Kyle Wood: Yeah.
Oh.
Brandi Healy: For me it was about I know you're like getting a little
Kyle Wood: Yeah.
Brandi Healy: here.
Um For me, it was about a year after you discovered human design.
So it was spring of 2021.
So, you know, living in the world of COVID now for about a year.
And I had already done my 200 hours certification, um, for,
you know, yoga teacher training.
Yes.
And, you know, very similar to you, you know, part of that training was,
um, you know, learning about enneagrams and I was very intrigued by that.
That was, I spent a lot of time looking into that in early days of
pandemic as I had lots of time on our hands as most of us did, um.
And prior to that in different companies that I had worked for, CliftonStrengths
was actually something that I had used in a few different companies
that I worked for as well as different systems like the DISC and the OAD.
And now, you know, knowing more about my type.
I'm also a projector.
We love a system.
So it's like if you tell me like, this is the system that we like
to use, especially if it helps me learn about myself or other people.
I'm like, I'm here for it.
So, you know, I was very much, um, you know, listening to
a lot of wellness podcasts.
And one of the podcasts that I listened to very regularly was, um, be well.
by Kelly with Kelly Lovac who is a holistic nutritionist,
Kyle Wood: Okay.
Oh.
Brandi Healy: one of her guests on her podcast was Who became
my teacher Erin Claire Jones?
So, you know, she was on Kelly's podcast and did kind of like a little
level overview of like this is what human design is and spoke to You
know, Kelly's design and kind of how that shows up in her business.
And so it was like, wow, this is super intriguing.
I wonder, you know, what my chart is.
So I did the same thing, went on to Jovian archive, you know, populated my chart.
And re listened to the episode because I was like, Oh, she talked
about some of this stuff already.
So, I retain really, I retain information best like through listening.
I love an audio book.
I love a podcast.
So, went back and listened and kind of like looked on my chart like, Okay, cool.
This is my type.
This is kind of how I create opportunities.
All right, like this really aligns for me and at that point, I didn't really take it
any further and about three months later, I started a program and I was working
with a trauma informed coach in a group coaching container and they used both
your astrological birth chart and your human design chart in the work that they
Kyle Wood: Huh.
Brandi Healy: Um, with each of their clients.
So it was reintroduced to me, um, probably about three months later.
And when they really took the time to, you know, expand on what it
meant to be a projector, and kind of took me through, like, my open and
defined centers, I was like, Wow.
This is so cool.
And I had been following Erin, you know, on Instagram, and I think I had also
subscribed to her newsletter as well.
But that having somebody, you know, explain my individual
chart to me a little bit more in depth, like, was very intriguing.
So, spent the time to, you know, really try to understand
my chart more from there.
So...
Um, I think by the time I finished my work with her or with them, excuse me, um, we
were, you know, coming up onto spring of 2022 and I remember telling my husband,
I was like, I feel very similar about the system as I do about my yoga practice.
It was like for a long time, like my yoga practice was something just for me.
Until it was something I felt very compelled to share with others, like,
this is too good to keep to myself.
And, you know, human design felt the same way.
Like, what little I know at this point has served me so deeply, like,
I feel really drawn to learn more.
And I think at that point is when Aaron started teasing that.
Um, she was going to be doing a training, you know, in the coming months.
And so I was like, this is a person that introduced me to it and I feel
very drawn to study with this person specifically because the way that
they present the information is just very clear and very practical.
Um, so that's kind of, you know, what, what that looked like for me.
Kyle Wood: Cool.
Cool.
I, uh, Yeah, I didn't realize you had done that.
So, the, the beauty of email.
So, I was getting these emails now.
Going back to my story, I was getting these emails from Erin.
And, uh, yeah, about once a month.
And she would, she would usually share, like, a bit about, you know, the types.
Maybe, like, through the context of something.
Or she would share, um, a little story.
And yeah, so the stuff she was then sharing about projectors, it was
like, Oh, this is really resonating.
And, uh, she ran like a discount, you know, on, on getting a, one of her
blueprint books, you know, lots of people have these, but it's just, it's
a book that explains your human design.
It's a PDF that goes through all the different bits.
And I got that and read that and it was just like, Oh my God, like there
was just so many things in there.
That.
That really resonated, um, and, and, you know, it was like so much information as
well as like integrating it was difficult, but I did some, some journaling around
it and started to connect the dots, you know, to see where I've been invited into
opportunities and, um, you know, like how my profile had already like showed up in
my life and, and also how like over the last couple of years, and especially cause
it's all happening during COVID, Pandemic and everything's changing anyway, that
I was not following some of these things that had come quite naturally to me and
I had issued them in favor of trying to do things like, you know, especially
running an online business, trying to do things like I see other people.
So that got me curious to learn some more.
So I signed up, I did a workshop with her on the other centers
and that was then really helpful.
Like sharing that with my wife and looking at our centers and it's like, Oh, wow.
He's like, wow.
We have these like some communication issues, um, and how we can fix that
or how we can communicate better.
Uh, and then my mom gave me some money for like Christmas
or my birthday or something.
And I, I, yeah, at this point as well, I was getting this feeling
like, I just feel like I just keep getting called back to human design.
It would like I'd do something with it and then it would be a few months.
Go back to my business.
And then again, like, this sort of like, calling would come, and I was
like, Okay, I want to do a one on one reading with Erin, so I used this
money that Mum had given me, and...
And you signed up and, and did a reading and at the end of the
reading she did say, Oh yeah, I'm like, I'm working on a training.
Cause, cause I could feel it's like, I, I want to teach this.
I don't know whether it's like, uh, just be a straight up human design reader
or if, um, uh, you know, I just want to take this and like apply it in my own
business or if I want to take this and.
You know, give it to my existing audience of like fitness trainers, uh,
for my business, but I, I, yeah, it could feel like that, that he Spleenic
Authority was like going off saying this is something to learn more about.
So yeah, so I asked her about it and she's like, yeah, um, I am interested.
I am thinking about doing a course.
Um, which, but like, that was like September 20, 21, I want to say.
So it was then a whole year.
It was like radio silence.
But yeah, I guess, yeah, I pretty much, uh, decided then, like,
yeah, just kept that calling.
And that was very, like, I'll speak to that, that was very uncomfortable.
Because, becoming a parent, um, I had stopped listening to that,
like, instinct and that intuition as much, and traded that for, you know,
doing things more, like, rational.
Not that I'm, like, a terribly irresponsible person, but had,
I guess, felt like I needed to justify my decisions.
So, um, it was very uncomfortable, but like you found, it
was similar to when you...
When I did your yoga teacher training, this was very similar to me when
I had been studying engineering at university and did my, got my
personal trainer qualification and was like, this is what I want to do.
And like, I don't want to do, you know, yes, I've spent over three
years studying engineering, but I still like, this is what I want to do.
I want to do personal training.
So yeah, it was very similar thing again.
And, um.
And I was like, yeah, I should listen to that.
And I shouldn't try and rationalize it, but I should just listen to this
and let's just see like where it goes.
And luckily I have an amazing wife.
He's like very supportive and that's all she wants for me.
So, um, that sort of got me to that stage.
Brandi Healy: Mm hmm.
Yes.
It's interesting because we, I kind of did it backwards from you.
So I did the workshop with Aaron, the flow workshop.
Kyle Wood: Okay.
Brandi Healy: And after the flow workshop, I went and for my husband
and my anniversary, I bought us both our blueprint books.
Kyle Wood: Uh huh.
Brandi Healy: And so then from there, we kind of like I would go back to that flow
workshop and I was like, we were having conversations similar to you and Zoe
around like, you know, let's look at our charts and like, how are they different?
And it's like, first we're reading our own and then we're reading each
other's and then for Father's Day, I bought him our two children's so
I had them all printed and bound and And you know, I like have them on my
nightstand and I've been myself like picking someone's up like almost daily.
And even now after studying, um, I just find that such a useful tool and have
found, you know, in that time from the time I took the workshop and got those
blueprints, I think similar to you.
It's like, as I started to tinker with it a little bit and saw how impactful
it was, not just for myself, but for my relationship with my partner and as
well as like, you know, how we've looked at parenting our children because their
designs are very different from one another, like for as many similarities
as we have in our family, there are also like, you know, some pretty substantial
differences and having that awareness, like, you know, Felt really good to
say like, Oh, I feel kind of like more confident about, you know, how I'm
going to choose to, you know, support my child so that they are growing up in
a way that feels really natural to them instead of trying to mold them in a way
that maybe societally they should be.
Kyle Wood: yeah, with the kid stuff, it's huge, so what, what, and what
was your husband, like, what was Dave's reaction to this, to you, like,
getting into this stuff with, mm,
Brandi Healy: He's like super open to it.
And again, like having a supportive partner was like huge in this, you
know, to say like, we're going to talk about human design in our partnership.
And also we're going to look at like how we raise our kids.
And now I want to invest in this training and sure.
And then it's like, and mind you, this is like within a two year period
that I do yoga teacher training.
And then I do, you know, this human design, this human
design training as well.
And I think at that point, like, you know, he is a sacral manifesting
generator and he was just like, no, I think that you should do this.
Like, I see how.
It's impacted you.
I see how it's impacted me by you sharing it with me.
I see how it's impacted our family and if this is what you feel drawn to do.
And I think that when I really sat with it, it wasn't different than
what I had already been doing.
It just gave me another tool to do it.
Mm
Kyle Wood: yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like a framework to.
Speak to what you, yeah, you're already trying to do.
Um, yeah, it was really helpful for me to see why something which
I'd already realized, which is in business, people operate differently.
You know, I work with a lot of people who self employed people and run their
bit in business and had just seen all the different ways people had found success.
And, um, used to really frustrate me seeing You know, products marketed
and things like that and coaches out there who are very much like
this is the one way to success.
And so human design was really reaffirming for me to be like, yeah, okay.
I'm right.
Like that there is not one way.
There is lots of pathways and, and here's a way I can help people
find their individual pathway.
So, so yeah, it's that, that got us to this, like this.
Well, what was it?
Was it, was it, did you see something on social media or
Brandi Healy: a year ago.
Kyle Wood: or...
Brandi Healy: I got it.
I think that I got an email and I saw a, you know, Instagram story or posts,
like there were teasers leading up to it.
And I knew that I had been tinkering with my authority
and I have weight for clarity.
So it's like, I know I'm not meant to make decisions in the moment.
So knowing this was on the horizon, and this is the same thing I did when I
hired a business coach, like knowing that the time to make a decision was coming
on the horizon, I'm like, okay, like.
Think about it as if you were to, this was presented to you.
If you had to make this decision today,
Kyle Wood: Hmm.
Brandi Healy: like what, how do you feel?
And it's like, I feel really excited.
I feel very compelled by this.
So then the day that it's like we're launching, I had that time to find that
clarity and like, you know, tell my husband like today's the day, like I'm
signing up and he's like, okay, great.
Kyle Wood: Ha ha ha, yeah.
Ha
Brandi Healy: I support that, you know, and, you know, it was again,
similar to my business coach.
My business coach was like, when I told her about I, you know, um, sheer
human design, she was like, amazing.
And then.
When we got to the part where we're discussing like are you you know
ready to move forward and I was like, oh, yeah I already decided
because I used my authority.
I already decided I just needed to like have this call to do like a vibe check
to make sure that we like mesh but like, you know, I'm in so you know that's kind
of how it got to the point to like You know, how I used my authority to enter
into this and it was like the day that it launched, I like signed up immediately.
Kyle Wood: Yeah, same.
Ha ha ha.
Yeah, I got that intuitive hit.
And then I went and talked to Zoe and I said...
You know, like I feel like I really want to sign up for this, but you
know, I don't know if it makes financial sense at this point.
Um, and she's like, no, you should do it.
So I was like, all right.
Um,
Brandi Healy: We had the same conversation in our house.
Kyle Wood: and like all the financial stuff worked out, like it was crazy.
So yeah, it was, it was really a nice, uh, experience and exciting
to, To think about putting some time into, into this, the other thing
that really like worked out well for me was like doing stuff with the U.
S.
is typically very frustrating for me because the calls in my time
zone are often at like anywhere sort of like between 2 and 5 a.
m.
So, because a lot of people run the calls in the morning in US time and
maybe it's that's the beauty of having a projector that she ran the calls
at like four o'clock in the afternoon her time, which was 6am my time.
Like that's not unreasonable.
Uh, and I, yeah, I just loved that whole process.
I loved the, like getting up early and I'd have done my call pretty much
before like the family even woke up and just get that little hit on it on
a, it was a Wednesday morning for me.
And, um, yeah, it was, yeah, it was, it was just awesome.
Um, and it was so awesome as well to see, like, to, to do this with a projector,
which Erin is and see, you know, how does a, how does a projector run this?
And she was very open about the behind the scenes, the process as well.
So that was really cool too.
Cause like I said, I often was like.
Joining courses with like generators, which were great, like fantastic people,
but you know, they were running like 16 calls a week and then doing this
Brandi Healy: Yeah.
I'm like, I can't work like that.
Kyle Wood: Yeah.
Yeah.
And, um, it's like, yeah, especially, yeah.
It's like, I just don't have that capacity these days, um,
to do that every single week.
So, yeah, that was, that was really cool.
What was, um, what was the experience like for you of doing the course?
Brandi Healy: You know, I think because we've gone through the course twice
and I think the first time it was really about going through the course
with the lens of looking at, looking at and understanding my own design I
think also looking at like my family, my partner and my two kids charts
Kyle Wood: yeah,
Brandi Healy: a lot during that first
Kyle Wood: yeah, same,
Brandi Healy: And then, um, The second round, I feel like I focused more
on like, okay, how do I feel about how do I want to share this with
others in a way that feels authentic to who I am and to my own design.
And, you know, the, again, I think the.
The first experience I feel like was very like an introspective time.
And then the second go was more under the lens of like, how do
I get this message out there?
And I think during both, you know, they were these group settings and I felt So
fortunate to hear from other people in both groups that had different designs
than my own or the ones that I was exposed to on a daily basis within my family unit
or people that I work with, um, which is like, there's nothing like hearing
what it's like to be a manifester than from a manifester or, you know, somebody
that has a certain authority, then that person that has that Uh, authority.
It's one thing to read about it.
It's a whole other thing to have someone share their lived experience of it.
And I think that that was the most powerful piece of that training.
And you know, I was just, you know, this connection came from that.
So it's like so grateful that like I chose to make that decision because now here we
are almost exactly a year later from the time that we had the first call, the call.
And, you know, now we have a human design podcast, which like, if you would have
told me a year ago that this is what I would be doing, I'd be like, no way.
Kyle Wood: Um, yeah, um, it's been a fun journey and it's been really fun
to really explore my design in the business as well and like really honor
it and really think about is this like staying in alignment, uh, as I do it.
So yeah, I'm excited to see, see where this continues to go and where this
Human design journey continues to go and, um, yeah, yeah, I'm glad, uh,
Brandi Healy: I'm glad we both said
Kyle Wood: yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, I think you said yes.
I was like, you know, are there any other wellness health professionals?
Like we had, you know, a group portal where we could talk during
the course and you said yes.
And then.
I win all hermity, so I don't think I even responded and then
I like circled back to you.
I think it was a while.
Was it a while later?
Do you remember?
Brandi Healy: I think so.
But in fairness, it was over the holidays.
Kyle Wood: Yeah, yeah, that sounds right.
Yeah, because we finished up.
Yeah, and so I sort of circled back around and found other people, a couple
other people and uh Yeah, just got that like intuitive hit about you again.
I was like, yeah, I think this is this is the person um so
just trusting that and Uh, yeah.
It's been good.
Brandi Healy: I think that what'll be fun, we'll share in another episode about
what happens in, when you layer charts on top of each other because that was,
you know, how you work in partnership with one another and I think that
that was a fun experience for us to go through of like well, let's check it out
and see what it would be like to work together and, you know, kind of some of
the discoveries that came from there.
But this was super fun to kind of have.
A trip down memory lane.
Kyle Wood: Yeah!
And I think with the overlaying it'd be maybe also cool to look at like
where one of us has a defined...
Center and the other person's open or undefined, well mine, I don't have any
open centers, they're all undefined.
So, so where we have that and how that shows up different, and then
how we, how we've intentionally honored that in the other person in
the way that we operate different.
That could be a really fun, uh, episode to go
Brandi Healy: And how we, how we lovingly remind each other
Kyle Wood: yeah.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Yep.
Ha
Brandi Healy: when we see the other go off course.
Kyle Wood: Yeah.
Ha ha ha ha.
Yep.
Brandi Healy: And by we, I mean Kyle.
Kyle Wood: Me?
You mean I go, of course, or I...
Brandi Healy: me, no, you, I go off course, and you're always like, we, I'm
thinking about doing this, and I'm like, yes, and you're like, think about it.
Kyle Wood: Ah, yes, yes.
Use your authority.
Brandi Healy: You're like, think about it, and I'm like, okay,
but tomorrow I'm telling you yes.
Kyle Wood: Yeah.
Brandi Healy: This was fun.
Kyle Wood: It was fun.
Alright, thank you so much for listening.
And, uh, we look forward to, uh, sharing more with you in the next episode.