Indexed Podcast

Today we’re joined by Luca Donnoh, Head of Research at L2BEAT, to dive deep into interoperability, bridging risk, and the hidden trust assumptions behind cross-chain assets.

In this episode we’re discussing:
- Luca’s background and path into crypto
- The L2 roadmap debate and Ethereum’s direction
- The new L2BEAT interoperability dataset
- Research goals behind the interop dashboard
- Lock & mint vs burn & mint bridges
- Intent-based bridging and counterparty risk
- Liquidity providers and bridge execution risk
- Canonical vs non-canonical tokens
- Wrapped asset systemic risk
- Multi-chain token configurations (LayerZero-style)
- Bridge exploits and historical failures
- The future of rollups, shared stacks & competition

And much more—enjoy!
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(01:05) Luca’s crypto background
(04:36) Latest L2BEAT project
(13:20) Rollup value proposition
(16:08) L2 roadmap hot takes
(20:22) Interop dataset overview
(23:19) Research goals explained
(29:45) Non-mint bridging model
(35:24) Lock & mint mechanics
(38:47) Non-issuer token bridging
(44:31) Bridge aggregator UX
(52:12) Risky token examples
(57:03) Multi-chain failure risks
(1:01:12) Closing thoughts
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 Content links:
 https://l2beat.com/interop/summary
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