WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:03.680 You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a 2 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.440 couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in 3 00:00:06.559 --> 00:00:14.560 practical ways. Hey, welcome to the Bible Guys. Everybody. 4 00:00:14.800 --> 00:00:16.640 Are you excited as I am. We're in a good 5 00:00:16.679 --> 00:00:17.679 We're in a good new location. 6 00:00:17.879 --> 00:00:19.879 We are in a new location. For those of you 7 00:00:19.920 --> 00:00:22.199 watching on video, you can tell that because we have 8 00:00:22.320 --> 00:00:24.920 wood behind us. We're actually in the Green Room of Heritage, 9 00:00:25.399 --> 00:00:28.199 which is really cool. And we have Kyle today because 10 00:00:28.280 --> 00:00:31.440 Jeff is off doing great things around the world with 11 00:00:31.480 --> 00:00:33.719 the Timothy Initiative. Yes, and if you don't know what 12 00:00:33.719 --> 00:00:36.600 the Timothy Initiative is, go to t TI dot com. 13 00:00:36.759 --> 00:00:39.320 I think that's the website dot com. 14 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:40.840 We're just Google of the Timothy Initiative. 15 00:00:40.920 --> 00:00:41.960 Yeah, probably just got dot com. 16 00:00:42.079 --> 00:00:44.119 Seems like too simple. 17 00:00:43.880 --> 00:00:45.719 Okay, all right, that's what it is, all right, Well, 18 00:00:45.759 --> 00:00:48.399 and you know anyway, Yeah, so go ahead and do that. 19 00:00:48.520 --> 00:00:51.679 And it's actually a great organization around the world that 20 00:00:51.759 --> 00:00:55.240 actually plants churches and areas that don't know about Jesus. 21 00:00:55.359 --> 00:00:57.159 Yes, it is something to look into. I mean, I 22 00:00:57.159 --> 00:00:59.039 know you said t t idek or whatever it is. 23 00:00:59.600 --> 00:01:01.520 I know you on a few TTI Vision trips I 24 00:01:01.600 --> 00:01:04.439 have as well. It's an amazing organization and just spreading 25 00:01:04.439 --> 00:01:05.719 the name of Jesus around the world. 26 00:01:05.760 --> 00:01:08.280 So well, hey, Kyle, before we get into the second 27 00:01:08.280 --> 00:01:11.359 week of our Dangerous Prayers series, And by the way, 28 00:01:11.439 --> 00:01:14.680 this week is the prayers of Surrender. Oh, we are 29 00:01:14.719 --> 00:01:17.680 going to have a brand new segment called topic Drop. 30 00:01:18.359 --> 00:01:19.719 How about that topic drop? 31 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:21.400 It says as we jump into the second week of 32 00:01:21.439 --> 00:01:23.400 our new series, Dangerous Prayers. This week we're talking about 33 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:25.959 prayers of surrender. So we asked chat gpt some funny 34 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:28.879 questions about surrender. So here they are, all right, you 35 00:01:28.920 --> 00:01:29.799 want to pose the first? 36 00:01:29.840 --> 00:01:32.040 Sure, all right, so let's hear the first one about surrender. 37 00:01:32.719 --> 00:01:35.280 Chat GBG asked, I'll ask you, Chris, what's harder to 38 00:01:35.319 --> 00:01:40.640 surrender control caffeine or the ox cord during a road trip? 39 00:01:41.280 --> 00:01:43.879 Is a harder to surrender control caffeine or the ox 40 00:01:43.959 --> 00:01:45.000 cord during a road trip? 41 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:47.680 Well, anybody thirty and under would have a hard time 42 00:01:47.719 --> 00:01:50.640 serning the ox cord, yes, But for me that's no 43 00:01:50.680 --> 00:01:53.599 problem at all. So I just I've learned, you know, 44 00:01:53.799 --> 00:01:55.400 over my life, like just give it to the kids, 45 00:01:55.920 --> 00:02:00.159 So that's not a problem. But uh, controllers caffe mean, 46 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:04.959 so I would say, my initial reaction is to say caffeine, 47 00:02:05.719 --> 00:02:08.199 but I just don't want to acknowledge the fact that 48 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:10.680 it's actually control. Yes, so control within. 49 00:02:10.759 --> 00:02:13.400 There you go, trying to control the narrative by saying 50 00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:17.080 it's not caffeine. It's actually Yeah, for me, it'd be caffeine. 51 00:02:17.080 --> 00:02:19.759 I would say the oxcord does not I'm in agree 52 00:02:19.759 --> 00:02:21.199 with you. That does not bother me a ton. But 53 00:02:21.240 --> 00:02:24.400 I do have three girls. Remember we do a road trip. 54 00:02:24.439 --> 00:02:26.960 It ends up being I mean the girliest music everage 55 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:28.280 where I can only do it for like an hour. 56 00:02:28.319 --> 00:02:29.840 I'm like, all right, like what Disney. 57 00:02:29.639 --> 00:02:34.039 Show, No Taylor Swift, It's I mean, it's like, okay, 58 00:02:34.159 --> 00:02:36.639 enough is enough, So I'll let it. I'll let it 59 00:02:36.680 --> 00:02:38.400 go for a little bit. But eventually I'm like I 60 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:40.159 or They'll be falling asleep in the back seat with 61 00:02:40.199 --> 00:02:41.919 a car with the music going, and I'm like, all right, 62 00:02:41.919 --> 00:02:42.960 it's time to wrap this up. 63 00:02:43.039 --> 00:02:46.879 Right, that's so funny? All right? Number two? If Surrender 64 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:50.759 had a theme song, would it be I Surrender All, 65 00:02:51.080 --> 00:02:51.960 which is an old hymn. 66 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:53.000 By the way, I let you know that? 67 00:02:53.039 --> 00:02:53.400 Do you know that? 68 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:53.879 Yeah? 69 00:02:53.919 --> 00:02:57.159 Yeah, okay, or let it go. That's a Disney song, 70 00:02:57.240 --> 00:03:01.639 by the way, And be honest, which one slaps one 71 00:03:01.719 --> 00:03:02.400 slaps harder? 72 00:03:03.680 --> 00:03:06.479 I let that GPD asked that which one slaps harder? 73 00:03:06.800 --> 00:03:09.719 Uh, yeah, I guess that's that would be chu GPT. 74 00:03:09.919 --> 00:03:10.719 She said it was chetchy. 75 00:03:11.039 --> 00:03:13.439 I mean, the Christian answer is I surrender all. But 76 00:03:13.719 --> 00:03:15.039 let's be real, let it go. 77 00:03:15.400 --> 00:03:19.360 There's no way any human can say that I surrender 78 00:03:19.400 --> 00:03:21.319 All slaps harder than let it go. 79 00:03:22.639 --> 00:03:27.759 Ah, come on, here we go, come on go. No way, dude, Trey, 80 00:03:28.120 --> 00:03:29.960 this is not gonna happenring this guy on stage for 81 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:31.159 I Surrender All remix. 82 00:03:31.319 --> 00:03:34.159 Yeah, it's it's just let it go to Oh what 83 00:03:34.280 --> 00:03:39.000 is it all to? Jesus? H dude, what the heck? 84 00:03:39.919 --> 00:03:42.439 It doesn't slap but let it go of course, you know, 85 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:46.639 like took over the world. Now, we didn't answer the question, though, 86 00:03:47.039 --> 00:03:49.240 which which If Surrender had a theme song, what would 87 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:49.439 it be? 88 00:03:49.919 --> 00:03:52.159 I would say, I mean, it has to be let 89 00:03:52.159 --> 00:03:53.960 it go, just because it does slap harder. 90 00:03:54.479 --> 00:03:59.400 I think so too, although the obviously spiritually the lyrics 91 00:03:59.400 --> 00:04:03.039 of ICE Render All are the heart of every dissection. 92 00:04:04.280 --> 00:04:06.159 So it's hard to say let it go over that, 93 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:08.360 so I said, the Christian answer is I surrender all. 94 00:04:08.439 --> 00:04:09.919 But it's so funny. 95 00:04:09.960 --> 00:04:11.719 It's like it's like, if you think about the words 96 00:04:11.719 --> 00:04:14.840 of I Surrender all, it's literally the best ever. It's 97 00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:17.000 like it's like, oh my gosh, it's the heart of 98 00:04:17.040 --> 00:04:20.639 it where every Christian should strive to arrive, right, and 99 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:22.759 we're saying that it goes Disney. 100 00:04:22.879 --> 00:04:23.879 Yeah, let's go Disney. 101 00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:27.120 All right, we're gonna go Disney. No, you know what, 102 00:04:27.240 --> 00:04:29.360 Jeff would be disappointed in me. I'm gonna I'm gonna 103 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:31.879 represent Jeff here. I'm gonna say I surrender all has. 104 00:04:31.759 --> 00:04:34.360 To win, Okay, I agree? All right, all right, sounds good, Jeff? 105 00:04:34.399 --> 00:04:36.800 All right? Third one, last one? We got uh from 106 00:04:36.839 --> 00:04:40.160 chat GBD. If surrender were a camp activity, would it 107 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:44.079 involved trust falls, glitter or crying in a canoe? 108 00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:44.600 What? 109 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:49.120 That's ridiculous? If surrender camp activity, would it involve trust falls, 110 00:04:49.160 --> 00:04:51.040 glitter or crying in a canoe? And I gotta be honest, 111 00:04:51.079 --> 00:04:54.240 I don't understand where glitter comes from. Why glitter? Oh 112 00:04:54.439 --> 00:04:56.120 you're just you're trusting it. 113 00:04:56.199 --> 00:04:58.560 I have a theory about glitter. Yeah, I believe glitter 114 00:04:58.839 --> 00:05:00.360 is one of the worst things for in the pits 115 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:00.560 of hell. 116 00:05:01.319 --> 00:05:02.040 That is a theory. 117 00:05:02.439 --> 00:05:05.160 Yeah, so I mean like if you give me, Oh, 118 00:05:05.199 --> 00:05:07.160 I shouldn't even say this out loud, but if you 119 00:05:07.199 --> 00:05:09.759 give me anything with glitter on it. And by the way, 120 00:05:09.759 --> 00:05:12.079 this is not a joke. So if nobody come up 121 00:05:12.120 --> 00:05:13.439 to me and give me something with glitter on it, 122 00:05:13.439 --> 00:05:15.439 because you don't understand, I would go from a one 123 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:18.240 to a ten. You want to talk about make this Chris, glitter, 124 00:05:18.439 --> 00:05:21.959 it's glitter, It's funny. Glitter anywhere is the worst invention 125 00:05:22.040 --> 00:05:26.360 in the entire world. It doesn't it doesn't help anything, right, 126 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:28.600 It just gets everywhere and it's irritating and it just 127 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:32.279 doesn't go away. So uh so I don't know what 128 00:05:32.319 --> 00:05:33.279 they have to do with trust. 129 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:34.920 Yeah, I'm trying to figure that out one now too, 130 00:05:34.959 --> 00:05:37.600 But I would say trust falls. That seems fitting. 131 00:05:37.839 --> 00:05:39.120 Crying in a canoe exactly. 132 00:05:39.439 --> 00:05:42.480 Maybe just like just I'm just imaginings wanting a canoe, 133 00:05:42.519 --> 00:05:45.519 crying and surrendering over They're like they're just like having 134 00:05:45.519 --> 00:05:47.240 a moment out there with God. Maybe I don't know. 135 00:05:47.720 --> 00:05:51.360 I was thinking of like taking somebody's oars and taking 136 00:05:51.360 --> 00:05:53.759 them in a canoe and they're crying because they have 137 00:05:53.800 --> 00:05:55.959 nothing because it's like, hey, trust me to come back. 138 00:05:56.199 --> 00:05:58.279 Oh okay, because it kind of which is sort of 139 00:05:58.319 --> 00:06:00.600 a trust fall, yeah right, like put yourself arms way 140 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:01.160 and trust me. 141 00:06:01.240 --> 00:06:03.560 Yeah, and the glitter makes no sense, so I'm gonna 142 00:06:03.600 --> 00:06:04.680 go with the trust falls. 143 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:06.959 Well yeah, because it seems to be the only one 144 00:06:07.000 --> 00:06:09.720 that is makes any sense at all. Thanks chat GPT 145 00:06:09.920 --> 00:06:14.759 for trying to be funny with with weirdness. So yeah, 146 00:06:14.759 --> 00:06:19.839 so there it is. I think that surrender is a 147 00:06:19.879 --> 00:06:24.079 topic to it's hard to make surrender fun and that tried. 148 00:06:24.680 --> 00:06:27.120 Yes, do you agree it's hard to make surrender fun, 149 00:06:27.240 --> 00:06:27.920 isn't it? 150 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:30.279 It depends what kind of surrender you're talking about, because 151 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:33.040 you know, if we want to slap the hymns, there 152 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:35.800 you go from the eighteen hundreds, there you go from. Anyway, 153 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:37.360 it's probably the sixteen hundreds. 154 00:06:37.560 --> 00:06:40.800 I Surrender All. Don't know, Jeff was here. 155 00:06:41.160 --> 00:06:45.720 That's twice we're calling on, Jeff. What year was the 156 00:06:45.800 --> 00:06:47.639 hymn I Surrender All released? 157 00:06:50.160 --> 00:06:52.879 I Surrender All was published in eighteen ninety six? 158 00:06:53.319 --> 00:06:56.360 Well, I did say eighteen hundreds. It's almost nine hundreds. Yeah, 159 00:06:56.360 --> 00:07:01.439 but yeah, four years into that. Uh yeah, so how 160 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:05.920 about that, all right, Kyle, Well, listen, that was a 161 00:07:07.120 --> 00:07:11.040 that was a difficult segments in some ways, wasn't it. 162 00:07:11.079 --> 00:07:13.920 And uh, And it's fitting because today we're talking about 163 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:17.680 a difficult topic, difficult topic surrender. 164 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:18.720 Okay. 165 00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:21.360 In fact, I believe it's all weak. You could have 166 00:07:21.399 --> 00:07:23.600 a chance to be like a heavy week a little bit, right, 167 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:26.720 because surrender is like one of the hardest things to do, 168 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:30.000 you know. And yet that's kind of what we're talking about. 169 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:33.360 We're talking about prayers in the Bible that have to 170 00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:36.279 do with surrender in some sort of way, right, because 171 00:07:36.319 --> 00:07:40.160 when it comes down to it's surrendering says okay, God, 172 00:07:40.279 --> 00:07:42.399 i'm us. A matter of fact, we're sort of talking 173 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:45.920 about this week, aren't we trust? We're talking about trust, control, surrender, 174 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:48.560 and they kind of all sit fit the same vein. 175 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:52.279 But it's the idea of like releasing things from ourselves 176 00:07:52.879 --> 00:07:55.319 and then saying, Okay, I give it to you whoever 177 00:07:55.319 --> 00:07:59.040 it is. So anyway, Yeah, So today we're in Isaiah 178 00:07:59.160 --> 00:08:02.399 chapter number there's only eight verses today. 179 00:08:02.279 --> 00:08:05.519 Yep, starting in verse one, So Isaiah six one through eight. 180 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:08.199 And I know you guys mentioned this a lotful reading 181 00:08:08.199 --> 00:08:11.399 out of the NLT. This is the Chronological Life Application 182 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:14.240 Study Bible, but says this. It was in the year 183 00:08:14.399 --> 00:08:17.240 King Uziah died, and I saw the Lord. He was 184 00:08:17.240 --> 00:08:19.560 sitting in a lofty throne, and the train of his 185 00:08:19.680 --> 00:08:24.279 robe filled the temple. Attending him were mighty seraphim, each 186 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:27.360 having six wings. With two wings, they covered their faces. 187 00:08:27.800 --> 00:08:30.800 With two they covered their feet, and with two they flew. 188 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:33.840 They were calling out to each other, Holy, Holy, Holy, 189 00:08:34.000 --> 00:08:37.440 is the Lord of Heaven's armies. The whole earth is 190 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:40.159 filled with his glory. Their voices shook the temple to 191 00:08:40.200 --> 00:08:44.600 its foundations. An entire building was filled with smoke. Then 192 00:08:44.639 --> 00:08:47.039 I said, it's all over. I am doomed, for I 193 00:08:47.039 --> 00:08:49.559 am a sinful man. I have filthy lips, and I 194 00:08:49.559 --> 00:08:52.639 live among people with filthy lips. Yet I've seen the King, 195 00:08:53.039 --> 00:08:55.840 the Lord of Heaven's armies. Then one of the seraphim 196 00:08:55.919 --> 00:08:58.159 flew to me with a burning hole he had taken 197 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:00.759 from the altar with a pair of tongs. He touched 198 00:09:00.799 --> 00:09:03.799 my lips with it and said, see this call has 199 00:09:03.879 --> 00:09:06.519 touched your lips. Now your guilt is removed and your 200 00:09:06.519 --> 00:09:09.960 sins are forgiven. Then I heard the Lord asking whom 201 00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:12.960 should I send as a messenger to this people who 202 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:16.440 will go for us? I said, here, am I send 203 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:19.039 me that? That that's verse eight right there. 204 00:09:19.159 --> 00:09:27.639 Yeah, so yeah, what a crazy, crazy passage. Yes, I 205 00:09:27.679 --> 00:09:31.159 was looking at the notes, you know, in my application 206 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:36.879 study album, and it's interesting. Here it says, only only 207 00:09:36.879 --> 00:09:39.879 here are the seraphim mentioned in the scripture. Isn't that crazy? 208 00:09:40.639 --> 00:09:43.080 I don't think I knew that. Uh. The Hebrew word 209 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:46.960 seraphim means to burn and relates these creatures to the 210 00:09:47.000 --> 00:09:50.279 holiness of God. This is why they repeat Holy, Holy, Holy, 211 00:09:50.600 --> 00:09:53.200 before the throne of God. Some students think that the 212 00:09:53.240 --> 00:09:57.159 seraphim are the living beings described in Revelation chapter four, 213 00:09:57.840 --> 00:10:02.200 verses six through nine. But it's interesting, isn't Yeah. 214 00:10:02.320 --> 00:10:04.200 Yeah, I did not. I did not realize it as well. Yeah, 215 00:10:04.200 --> 00:10:05.120 that's the only reference. 216 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:09.480 So whenever I think of this passage, I am, I 217 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:14.279 can't help but think about in heaven. So this is 218 00:10:14.320 --> 00:10:15.679 in heaven before God. Right. 219 00:10:15.879 --> 00:10:16.080 Yeah. 220 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:19.759 So here we have you know, cherif Seraphim and Cherifim 221 00:10:20.519 --> 00:10:24.440 floating around the throne of God, you know, continually crying 222 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:28.039 out holy, holy, Holy, you know, his glory and everything else. 223 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:32.840 And then they fly over and they give Isaiah, they 224 00:10:32.840 --> 00:10:34.360 touch his lips with a burning coal, And I think 225 00:10:34.399 --> 00:10:37.360 to myself, like did that hurt? Do you think that 226 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:40.080 at all? Or do you think like, okay, was it 227 00:10:40.200 --> 00:10:44.200 more like symbolic? It did say hot, right, It said 228 00:10:44.679 --> 00:10:46.879 the angel picked it up with tongues, So the angel 229 00:10:46.919 --> 00:10:48.799 didn't pick it up with his you know, wings or 230 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:51.639 with his hands, picked up with tongs and it said 231 00:10:51.679 --> 00:10:54.120 he touched his lips with it. So if the Bible 232 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:56.759 describes it as hot and the angel had to use 233 00:10:56.840 --> 00:11:01.679 tongues or chose to use tongues, then then was it 234 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:04.840 was it? I mean, it couldn't have been white hot 235 00:11:04.879 --> 00:11:07.399 coals that actually burn human flesh like it could be 236 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:10.960 on this earth because he did say here, am I 237 00:11:11.039 --> 00:11:11.360 sin me? 238 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:14.360 Yes, he spoke after he spoke, if you. 239 00:11:14.320 --> 00:11:17.600 Touch me with hot, burning white coals, I would be 240 00:11:17.639 --> 00:11:23.039 screaming and I probably wouldn't be able to speak, right. 241 00:11:23.720 --> 00:11:25.559 But I know, I know it's a goofy way to 242 00:11:25.600 --> 00:11:30.480 introduce this that this topic, right, But honestly, honestly, goodness, 243 00:11:30.480 --> 00:11:33.399 that's all I think of. I honestly think of like, okay, 244 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:37.200 we obviously know the symbolism, right, so if his sins 245 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:41.360 have been purified. If they've been cleansed, then then that 246 00:11:41.480 --> 00:11:45.720 symbolism is it's a foreshadowing of Jesus, right, It's it's 247 00:11:45.879 --> 00:11:47.759 washing away our sins in other words, in this case, 248 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:51.519 you know, burning away or sins or purifying in the 249 00:11:51.559 --> 00:11:54.679 same way that like when you hate gold, right, all 250 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:57.120 all the impurities rise to the top of gold and 251 00:11:57.120 --> 00:11:59.600 then it gets skimmed away and then the gold becomes 252 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:03.519 pure after that. So there is a way to refine things. 253 00:12:03.799 --> 00:12:05.519 And remember in the Old Testament, they would have known 254 00:12:05.559 --> 00:12:06.879 about that, they would have they would have been they 255 00:12:06.879 --> 00:12:09.600 would have refined metals that way, right, So it's a 256 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:12.480 it's an appropriate it's some you know symbolism back you know, 257 00:12:12.480 --> 00:12:15.120 whether this was seven hundred and what fifty years or 258 00:12:15.159 --> 00:12:18.519 so before Christ, So it would be a very appropriate, 259 00:12:19.639 --> 00:12:24.120 you know word picture. But I just can't help it 260 00:12:24.159 --> 00:12:26.919 to think whether or not it was just symbolic or 261 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:29.480 actually it hurt. Yeah, yeah, I. 262 00:12:29.480 --> 00:12:32.200 Think I think it's even there. It says that he 263 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:34.960 had touched my lips with it. Now your cold touch 264 00:12:34.960 --> 00:12:37.440 your lips. Now your guilt is removed, your sins are forgiven. 265 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:39.360 So I would hope that I wonder if there was 266 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:41.600 that pain, that initial pain, but then a healing that 267 00:12:41.639 --> 00:12:44.440 came with it, and we knew that the forgiveness was 268 00:12:44.480 --> 00:12:46.240 not found in the coals. It wasn't the coals that 269 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:48.840 forgave him. It was it was God obviously who actually 270 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:51.600 gave him the forgiveness. But I know, for me, one 271 00:12:51.600 --> 00:12:53.000 of the things that comes to mind, because I would 272 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:54.960 mentioned this to you earlier, A lot of people reference, 273 00:12:55.120 --> 00:12:57.720 which I love the verse eight where he says he 274 00:12:57.759 --> 00:12:59.919 steps up and says yes, go and say to his 275 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:01.879 oh yeah, no, no, sorry for said he said, here am 276 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:04.600 I send me? That's part so many people reference. And 277 00:13:04.600 --> 00:13:06.200 then when you backtrack and you look at all the 278 00:13:06.240 --> 00:13:08.240 events let up to this, this is this is kind 279 00:13:08.279 --> 00:13:11.159 of a great story, but it's definitely a little bit 280 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:13.840 obscure and odd. But the thing is is this progression 281 00:13:13.879 --> 00:13:18.120 he goes through where he sees how unclean he is 282 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:20.440 and the people he comes from, how unclean. There's this 283 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:23.799 like brokenness he has. I don't know about you, but 284 00:13:23.840 --> 00:13:25.240 I guess for me, the reason why I love this 285 00:13:25.320 --> 00:13:27.159 is so many people reference this as a moment of 286 00:13:27.200 --> 00:13:29.320 like stepping up, stepping up to what God called you 287 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:31.360 to do. And I don't know if you experienced this 288 00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:33.240 as well, Chris, I'm sure you have. But I feel 289 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:36.399 like anybody who I've ever met who's really stepped out 290 00:13:36.399 --> 00:13:39.759 in faith, whether that's like a pastor, a speaker, a 291 00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:44.120 small group leader, a kids worker, a podcast, or whatever 292 00:13:44.159 --> 00:13:45.399 it may be, I feel like this is kind of 293 00:13:45.399 --> 00:13:48.200 the progression of somebody who's truly following Jesus. They go 294 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:52.279 from that moment of realizing how broken they are and 295 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:55.679 in need of forgiveness, then there's this cleansing that they 296 00:13:55.720 --> 00:13:57.679 have to have, and then God forgives them, and then 297 00:13:57.759 --> 00:14:00.480 they almost speak out of their like humility to say 298 00:14:00.480 --> 00:14:02.360 like hear my send me, and I love that. I 299 00:14:02.399 --> 00:14:05.279 think it's an encouragement for anybody who is maybe listening 300 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:07.360 to this right now who doesn't feel adequate, they don't 301 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:09.480 feel like they're enough. I think the closer you get 302 00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:11.200 to God, the closer you get to Jesus, you actually 303 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:14.759 realize your brokenness, your humility, you realize how low you 304 00:14:14.799 --> 00:14:16.720 actually are. And it's in that moment that you can 305 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:19.559 realize like, all right, God, thank you for saving me. 306 00:14:19.600 --> 00:14:21.559 I know it's not because of me, and therefore, like 307 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:24.320 use me wherever you may have. So anyways, I just 308 00:14:24.360 --> 00:14:26.360 love this because I think it's just a reminder that 309 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:29.399 he wasn't somebody who Isaiah wasn't somebody who necessarily believed 310 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:32.480 in himself, thinking with himself. He's like, I am unclean, 311 00:14:32.600 --> 00:14:35.200 I am like he didn't believe in himself, but instead 312 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:36.759 he had the picture of God, and he believed in 313 00:14:36.799 --> 00:14:38.600 what God had for him. I love that. 314 00:14:39.240 --> 00:14:42.399 Yeah, well, I mean it's an acknowledgment of I remember 315 00:14:42.440 --> 00:14:45.799 one time. It reminds it reminds me of the message 316 00:14:45.840 --> 00:14:48.639 that I heard long time ago by lou Gigmiel where 317 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:51.080 he says God is the great. I am, and so 318 00:14:51.159 --> 00:14:52.600 of God as I am, you know what it makes 319 00:14:52.639 --> 00:14:56.200 you I am not I'm not yet right. And so 320 00:14:56.320 --> 00:14:59.080 that's really what Isaiah's saying here. And so you know, 321 00:14:59.320 --> 00:15:01.320 you have no choice when you stand in front of 322 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:05.480 your creator to realize you know, you are not worthy, 323 00:15:05.879 --> 00:15:08.480 you are not holy, you are a sinful man, that 324 00:15:08.559 --> 00:15:11.159 you are undone, you are imperfect when you stand in 325 00:15:11.159 --> 00:15:13.679 the presence of God. And so it is a it 326 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:17.279 is a I just remember hearing by the way side 327 00:15:17.279 --> 00:15:21.360 note his message was so great because he talked about 328 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:24.799 the stars in the sky in that message, and he said, 329 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:26.679 you know, it's so interesting. Have you ever seen the 330 00:15:26.679 --> 00:15:30.519 movie Contact with Jody Foster. So one of the tags, 331 00:15:30.519 --> 00:15:33.039 you know, Matthew McConaughey, one of the taglines in that 332 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:37.360 movie was if there isn't life out on other planets, 333 00:15:37.399 --> 00:15:41.639 then that sure is an awful lot of wasted space. Right, 334 00:15:41.799 --> 00:15:43.799 And they kept on saying it over and over again. Right, 335 00:15:44.039 --> 00:15:47.559 if there's not life another planet planets, and that's an all, 336 00:15:47.639 --> 00:15:51.480 that's a that's an awfully big waste of space. And 337 00:15:51.480 --> 00:15:53.639 and so I remember in this message where he talked 338 00:15:53.639 --> 00:15:55.840 about the great I am and I am not, lou 339 00:15:55.879 --> 00:15:59.960 Giglio said, think about all the stars, the galaxies, the universe, 340 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:02.639 which he's fascinated with, by the way, and you know 341 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:04.919 he's like, you know, subscribe to the Hubble telescope, all 342 00:16:04.960 --> 00:16:07.600 that kind of stuff, and and and he studies the 343 00:16:07.720 --> 00:16:11.720 universe and he says, what if God's creation of the 344 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:16.720 universe was one giant billboard to let him know, let 345 00:16:16.799 --> 00:16:19.000 us know how big he is and how small we are. 346 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:22.200 Think about that, yeah, right, because if that's the purpose 347 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:25.519 of it, then it's still not big enough. Right. But so, 348 00:16:25.919 --> 00:16:28.759 no matter how vast the universe is, if we're the 349 00:16:28.759 --> 00:16:31.639 only life, you know, on the in the in the universe, 350 00:16:32.480 --> 00:16:35.799 you know, and in the galaxy, universe whatever. Then you know, 351 00:16:35.960 --> 00:16:39.080 how is that possible? Well, it depends if God is 352 00:16:39.120 --> 00:16:42.480 displaying his majesty, then it's not even big enough. And 353 00:16:42.519 --> 00:16:44.759 so I just remember thinking to myself, man, that is 354 00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:49.000 a phenomenal point, because God could have demonstrate his greatness 355 00:16:49.039 --> 00:16:52.759 and his creation, you know, surrounding us and then uh, 356 00:16:52.960 --> 00:16:55.519 and of course then it reminds us that how small 357 00:16:55.519 --> 00:16:55.879 we are. 358 00:16:56.759 --> 00:16:58.360 And so it's like when you go, i mean go 359 00:16:58.440 --> 00:16:59.919 up to the up or up north, you look in 360 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:02.200 the stars and you can actually see this guy clearly. 361 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:04.319 It actually is this really weird thing where you see 362 00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:07.640 that and actually makes you feel you realize how small 363 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:09.160 you are. Yeah, And the same way you can go 364 00:17:09.200 --> 00:17:12.119 to a big city the exact opposite. We surrounded by 365 00:17:12.160 --> 00:17:14.759 people in New York City and realize how small you are. 366 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:16.720 It's weird how that can be surrounded by people or 367 00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:19.519 surround about nothing but the stars in the sky and realized, wow, 368 00:17:19.559 --> 00:17:20.839 this is a this is a big God. There's a 369 00:17:20.839 --> 00:17:23.480 big creation. But I love that he yeah, just his 370 00:17:23.480 --> 00:17:27.759 his whole mindset there. Actually Dave Wilson, remember earlier this year. 371 00:17:27.799 --> 00:17:30.119 One of the statements he told me that somebody told 372 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:32.960 him years ago, and he remembers this, this statement where 373 00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:35.160 he says that, uh, I was just talking about the 374 00:17:35.200 --> 00:17:38.000 ideas of like, you know, leading things and the challenges 375 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:39.359 that come with that. He goes, so, yeah, somebody told 376 00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:43.079 me years ago this statement says pressure is privilege. And 377 00:17:43.440 --> 00:17:45.079 it made me. It made me think, like I thought 378 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:47.200 about that. I've said that to myself many times since. 379 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:49.599 That's just this idea that sometimes the life we live, 380 00:17:50.039 --> 00:17:52.839 if we are feeling pressure, that this is a privilege. 381 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:55.079 And here we have Isaiah who is not like somebody 382 00:17:55.079 --> 00:17:58.240 again who felt super qualified. He was somebody who was 383 00:17:58.279 --> 00:18:01.680 like realizing his knee need for God, his need for 384 00:18:01.960 --> 00:18:04.759 God's holiness in his life. And here he was stepping 385 00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:06.839 up and saying, here, my send me. And I think 386 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:09.440 sometimes people they probably look at someone like you, Chris 387 00:18:09.799 --> 00:18:11.440 or me, and they think, oh, man, you must be 388 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:14.440 so confident all the time, you must totally know God's play, 389 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:16.559 you must always feel ready to give an ant like 390 00:18:16.680 --> 00:18:19.039 all that, But they probably don't realize that so often 391 00:18:19.319 --> 00:18:21.359 there's a lot of like, man, this pressure is a lot, 392 00:18:21.680 --> 00:18:24.640 this is challenging I think our mindset sometimes looks a 393 00:18:24.720 --> 00:18:27.599 lot more like where Isaiah came from and what he's 394 00:18:27.640 --> 00:18:30.200 going through versus what people maybe see on a stage 395 00:18:30.240 --> 00:18:31.000 or on a podcast. 396 00:18:31.079 --> 00:18:33.559 Yeah, yeah, for sure it is. Hey, So I was 397 00:18:33.559 --> 00:18:37.440 looking at these notes and here's the thing. We don't 398 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:41.039 have adequate light above me because it's a new studio. 399 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:42.960 So I want you to read it because you have 400 00:18:43.039 --> 00:18:44.759 better eyes than me. I actually believe or not, I 401 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:47.039