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You are listening to the USDN on the DFPN.

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Thanks for watching!

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What is up, everybody?

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And as always,

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it's your chairman of the

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United States Department of Nerds,

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where we are for the people,

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by the people, and of the people.

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And today,

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we have a three-by repeat

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offender to the podcast

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with Bruno Caterino with

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his new Kickstarter, Crimson Bay.

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Bruno, welcome back.

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How's it feel to be a repeat

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offender to the USDN?

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Well,

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it seems like the right kind of

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repeat offender.

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It's the best kind, in my opinion.

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Yeah.

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Thank you so much for having me again.

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I've told you several times

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that you are always welcome

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here with your books.

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I love how your books bring

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something different.

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And you quite possibly write

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some of the best

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cliffhangers I have ever read in my life.

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thank you uh yeah that's

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great to hear uh yeah if

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you think the cliffhanger

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for issue one is good you

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need to read the

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cliffhanger for you already

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teasing us with the issue

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two on this one yeah it's

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it's it's bad it's bad as

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in it's yeah it's so bad

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it's good um it's not for

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me to judge but it leaves

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you wanting to know what

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happens I think hopefully

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You always do.

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You always do.

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So let's jump into this one.

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So this is going to be your

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third Kickstarter with us,

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which I'm very proud to have you back on.

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So

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Let's just jump right into it.

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Tell the people what they

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can expect from Crimson Bay.

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I've read it.

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I love it.

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It's Street Fighter.

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It's Street Fighter with a story,

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basically.

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That's how I felt going into it,

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and I loved it.

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Or a Double Dragon, something like that,

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you know?

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So tell us about Crimson Bay.

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Yeah, I mean,

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you mentioned Street Fighter

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with the story.

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I think we actually had like

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a Street Fighter with the

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story in video games.

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It's just a game that not a

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lot of people know, which is, you know,

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King of Fighters and the whole SNK thing.

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They did like, sorry, let me ask,

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do you hear any music coming from me?

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Okay.

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Oh, yeah.

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So we barely hear the music.

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I'm sorry.

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I had muted myself and didn't realize it.

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Kelvin, welcome to the show, bro.

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Hello.

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Yeah, because there's someone.

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Yeah.

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Sorry about that.

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Really noticeable.

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I lost my train of thought.

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You're telling us about Crimson Bay.

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uh yeah I was saying yeah

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there was a this game that

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for me was like still the

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best was king of fighters I

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absolutely love that

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all the you know games in

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that family like you know

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fatal fury art of fighting

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uh you know all that smk

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kind of property uh was

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awesome and it had a story

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and it was like mcu like in

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the nineties so I really

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like that stuff so

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So while Street Fighter is

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obviously a big inspiration because,

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you know, it's the OG, plus, you know,

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Final Fight, Streets of Rage,

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all of those are classics.

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All classics, man, all classics.

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Yeah, you mentioned Double Dragon also,

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you know, great.

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So, but yeah,

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I think King of Fighters is

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probably like the main sort

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of inspiration because it's that,

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it's that fighting game with the story.

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And that's kind of what I

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was going for is,

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Yeah, it is about the action.

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It is about the fight.

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Again,

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I'm sorry for my phone because... Oh,

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you're good.

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Nothing is going right today.

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Ah, you're good.

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So, yeah,

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it's that intense fighting

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inspired by the games and

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by anime and that sort of thing.

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But with a solid story,

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with characters that you

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can feel for them,

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that you can relate to them

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and that are going through

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problems that are relatable

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even if you know the

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martial arts they practice

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kind of defy physics and

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logic and all of that whole

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point of those video games

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is that no human should be

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able to do what they do but

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they do it anyway and

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that's what I always loved

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about that kind of stuff

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you say that but uh

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researching for the book

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because I kind of started

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very like close and then I

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started wanting to be more

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realistic in future issues

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so I started watching a lot

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of martial arts videos and

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I've seen some people do

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some really really weird

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stuff like I don't know how

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they do it so humans can do

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some really insane stuff

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that you can think of yeah

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yeah so you said you

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watched some martial arts

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movies what did you watch specifically

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not movies like videos like

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uh actual yeah I mean

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videos and stuff yeah

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youtube videos about you

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know different uh different

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things about you know uh

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different styles of uh

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karate new time okay

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all of that, you know,

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the styles that kind of fit

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each of the characters that

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are in issue one or in later issues.

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So yeah,

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so I'm kind of just trying to get

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myself into that world and

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be a little bit more accurate,

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even though everything they

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do is not accurate at all,

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but I still want to have

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some of that realism, but yeah.

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No, I mean, it works, though.

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I mean,

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you do see a little bit of the

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futuristic stuff in there.

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But at the same time,

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it wasn't outside of the

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norm of what you would see

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in Streets of Rage or

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something like that.

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So for me, I like that kind of stuff.

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You know, that's what appeals.

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is it's very relatable the

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characters I really enjoyed

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um the brothers and then

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the antagonist in the story

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was I thought like very

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like especially the way you

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cliffhanged this on this

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one it was very like oh wow

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there's this heartfelt

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moment and then all of a

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sudden it was like boop

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flicking away because his

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greatest enemy is now there

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you know the life he just

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saved is you know this

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I'm not going to go into it, but yeah,

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you know what I'm talking about.

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Yeah.

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I don't want to sell it.

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I don't want to give it away,

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but it was very fascinating

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the way you did that.

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I was like, geez, Bruno.

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I'm like, what are you doing to us, dude?

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Yeah.

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I mean, John Ford,

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like the director is a

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massive inspiration in that

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sense because he has these, I don't know.

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He has this thing.

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I call it like the John Ford

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punch because it's like, yeah,

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it makes you go towards one

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emotion and then it

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suddenly hits you with a

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different emotion.

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It's like, what?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And I love that.

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So, yeah.

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So when I write, I do try to do that.

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Obviously not as effectively

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as John Ford did,

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but I do try to do that.

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I think you nailed it with this one.

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So did you work with people

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you already knew on this

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book or did you go out and

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grab some new people or how did you,

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So I know you write,

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other people do the art.

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So are you working with the

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same people as before on

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some of your other work?

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Or did you want to just like, hey,

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I want to do something different.

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Let's grab some different people.

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uh no it was actually um

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sorry uh it was actually

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with uh uh samuel and geo

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who I worked with for uh

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bereavement uh that may

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have been the first time

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that we kind of talked

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right I think it was

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bereavement yep bereavement

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yeah it was the first one

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yeah so uh yeah I mean I

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work with them they they

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work really great together

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they do amazing work they

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are incredibly fast um so

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yeah I wanted to work with

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them again uh I kind of

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spoke with samuel and asked

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him hey I have these two

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projects I was actually

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thinking of him for another

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project but I kind of

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pitched both and he was

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like I actually prefer that

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one and I'm like okay cool

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let's do that and that was

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crimson bay so uh so yeah um

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I had already worked with

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Samuel Langeo in Bereavement,

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and I had worked with Matias,

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the letterer, in many different projects,

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and I just thought, you know, yeah,

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let's add him to the mix.

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The art was very different, though.

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That's why I was asking the question,

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because in Bereavement,

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you had this very vibrant, like,

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but dark, you know, kind of story to it,

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you know, not necessarily a dark story,

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but a story with the

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unexpected twist involved in it.

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And then in this one,

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the colors are very vibrant.

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They're very lush and very pop.

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You know, it's a city set in, it's,

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it wasn't an outer space.

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Like some of your other stories are dark,

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you know, London street and like parasite,

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I think.

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Yeah.

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So,

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like kind of like what area

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are you basing this story

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out of in like crimson bay

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was that just something you

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made up or did you have an

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inspiration with the name

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oh uh that went through a

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lot of uh different um uh

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iterations it was not the

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original name the original

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name was like something

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like shattered bonds or

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something like that which

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was more about the two

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brothers kind of thing yeah

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but it's not I don't know

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it feels like it's a it's a

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name that tells you what the

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what it is but in a very

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direct way yeah interesting

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and I think crimson bay is

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a lot more it does it it

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has it resonates a little

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bit more when you say it

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it's more evocative and you

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know you can have the uh so

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the crimson bay comes

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basically from the the

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water one of the panels you

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see like the the water is

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reflecting like red like

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blood yeah yeah and it

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comes from the buildings

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that kind of give that vibe

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uh sorry do you do you hear any of this

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Barely, barely, Bruno.

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I don't think it's going to bleed over.

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Okay, it's really annoying.

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I'm sorry about that.

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No, you're good.

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That's part of living in the city, right?

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This is me working like

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every day trying to focus on just this,

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like the works outside.

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I have airplanes, like literal jets.

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Wow.

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Okay.

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Anyway, as I was saying, as I was saying,

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yeah, there's this, yeah,

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Crimson Bay kind of is more

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evocative and it has this, you know,

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it's the name of the town,

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but it's also about all the

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violence and all the blood.

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And so it has like this double meaning.

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And yeah.

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You do set the intro of this

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story very well from like

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how you introduce us to the character and

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like kind of you dive a

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little bit into the

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background just enough you

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know so you know where

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their place is and like

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where they're coming from

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on things and that's

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something that I always

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think you do very well is

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you give us that right

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amount to where you could

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in your head you can like

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okay I see where where

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they're coming from and

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where we're going with this

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a little bit and

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So that was really like,

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I enjoyed that about the

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book itself is how you do that.

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So.

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Thank you.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean,

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I feel like from a craft point of view,

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obviously, you know,

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people will have different opinions,

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but from a craft point of view,

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I think this might be,

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my best book so far because

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of that because of how how

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much is back just in the

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first three pages um but

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yeah I mean obviously you

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know people well tell me

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whether they like it or not

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but that's a different

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story yeah I I I'm going to

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agree with you on that I've

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read three of your books

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now you've been on three

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different times and I've

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read some of your other books as well

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like this one simply out of

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the concept that you're

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deriving it from as well

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because I'm a huge huge fan

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I love the dark horror

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stuff that you do don't get

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me wrong I love that kind

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of stuff but this one is

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more of a a fun throwback

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to your childhood sitting

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at home on your sega super

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nes playstation whatever it

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was and just playing hours

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and hours of you know

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beat-em-up video games,

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or at the arcade wasting

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tons of quarters on these things.

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And as I'm reading it,

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that's how I feel the entire time is,

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is I'm watching and reading

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this video game play out in

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front of me with this very

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unique story with just the

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right amount of fighting in it.

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And I was like, dude,

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we deserve a video game

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that plays like that,

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like a three-D video game,

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like just a three-D beat-em-up,

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like modern-day game like that.

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I'm like, we need that.

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yeah and when you think

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about it I don't know is

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there anything like that at

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the moment in terms of

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there is but not like

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mostly you know we got like

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assassin's creed and stuff

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like that that kind of

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their three d fighting

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games you know but not like

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pure pure fighting games

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like old school arcade

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style that's a three d

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where you can move around

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the entire environment and

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the story is is playing at the same time

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And I'm like, dude,

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that would be kind of cool

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if somebody did that.

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And there may be something

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out there that I'm just not aware of.

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Yeah.

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No, yeah.

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Yeah, I can't think of anything either.

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I think there's a lot of like, you know.

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I can slash kind of action stuff.

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It's just not the same.

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Yeah.

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Like you're fighting, like no weapons,

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just pure fighting in a

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three D environment in a

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story being told to me,

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that would just be like dope as hell.

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But yeah,

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I'm a fan of that era of video games.

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Someone out there who makes games, just,

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you know,

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get on it because you have two

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people that would totally buy it here.

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I'm sure there's more than us.

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Yeah, exactly.

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That's it.

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Just two people.

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With... I'm trying to think

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how I want to phrase this.

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From how you wanted the...

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like,

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the coloring of the book and the

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drawing and the characters, like,

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was your artist and your colors,

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were they, like, pretty spot on with,

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like, how you've seen it happening?

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Or was there a lot of, like,

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back and forth with, hey,

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what about this?

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Or, like, hey, I'm thinking more this.

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Because it's not, like, to be fair,

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I was kind of expecting a little bit more,

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like,

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ninety style almost like

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that eight bit sixteen bit

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style art and I'm really

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happy we didn't get that to

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be fair but I was kind of

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like a little bit a little

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a little piece of me was

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kind of like this would

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have been kind of cool in

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like a sixteen bit you know

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kind of distorted way but

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I'm glad we didn't get that

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but there was there was a

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slight piece of me that

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would have been like that

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would have been kind of

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cool yeah one of the things

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that I wanted to have done

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was uh cover that would be eight bit

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like pixelized and all of that pixel art.

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That would have been really dope, yeah.

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Yeah,

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but because I already had enough covers,

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I thought, you know what,

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I'm going to leave that for issue two.

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But yeah,

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issue two definitely is going to

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have like a pixel art cover because I,

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that's, yeah, that's really dope.

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I don't know if that's what

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you meant or if you

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actually meant like that

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nineties style of comic book art.

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A little bit of both, yeah.

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Okay, okay.

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Yeah, I mean,

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I think Sam has like this more,

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I don't want to call it

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like anime because it's not really anime,

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but it's more of that style.

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It's very water and art.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And I think it works really well for this.

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It really does.

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But again,

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there's that small piece of that

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nineties childhood that was kind of like,

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it'd been kind of cool to see like,

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Even a little throwback

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maybe on a TV screen of

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some kid playing a video game.

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Just that one little thing

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where somebody would...

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That little throwback in

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there or that little Easter

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egg hidden somewhere in there.

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Just that little thing.

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People like me, when we read comic books,

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I study panels.

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I want to see the panels and what's there.

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read it but also I look at

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the pages because you never

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know what you're going to

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find on a page of a comic

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right yeah so it's just one

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of those little fun nods

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and nod like throwbacks to

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what inspired the book

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Yeah,

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I took a note just to say just very

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cheekily because that's a good idea.

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And you have some good ideas.

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Hey,

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let's talk about one of those ideas

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real quick.

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So we were talking before we came live.

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I was like, hey, Bruno, you know,

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in the nest when you have

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to call it round two.

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Yeah.

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Instead of issue two,

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because to me that just

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like it ties that theme, it ties that.

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the book into what you want

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to do with it together,

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like calling it rounds instead of issues.

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So, yeah, I mean, that's,

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that's a brilliant idea.

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I don't know how I did not

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think about that.

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I'm, I'm glad that I haven't launched yet,

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but I'm probably going to be changing the,

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uh, the, the texts in yeah.

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For that, because it's definitely, yeah,

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it's definitely a fantastic idea.

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I'm going to take it.

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It's not the first time that

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I took an idea from you because I still,

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every now and then I'm like,

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I gave him that idea.

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yeah yeah the one little

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moment where I'm feeling

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really good about it like

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yeah I gave him that idea

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yeah I mean thank you for

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that yeah I mean the last

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one was like the the covers

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for um cinematic figments

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which you mentioned this

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would look really cool as a

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virgin cover and it's like

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I have it it's absolutely

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beautiful it does I mean

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it's amazing um yeah I have

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a lot of covers and that's

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one of my favorite covers

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just simply because

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once you strip that

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cinematic figments off of it,

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it's just this, like, it makes you,

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it gives you so many different thoughts.

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Like, what is this book?

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What's this about?

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You know,

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it just plays with your emotions

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and just,

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like it's just beautiful the

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colors the art everything

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just so good together yeah

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yeah yeah I mean it's worth

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talking to you just for

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this to take ideas from you

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because a lot of them are

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amazing I've told you many

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times I'm here man run

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ideas by me it goes for

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anybody coming on here you

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have an idea and you're

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like hey I wonder what he thinks about it

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Yeah, I mean, and just following on that,

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because you mentioned, you know,

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using the round two and all of that,

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I did try to kind of use some of that,

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you know, the concepts and all of that.

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So one of the things that I

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have with one of the

00:21:25.013 --> 00:21:27.914
rewards is putting together like...

00:21:29.320 --> 00:21:31.021
these I call them like isco

00:21:31.241 --> 00:21:34.122
combos as in international

00:21:34.201 --> 00:21:37.663
shipping uh costs uh

00:21:37.722 --> 00:21:39.144
optimized something like

00:21:39.183 --> 00:21:40.564
that which is like a pack

00:21:40.624 --> 00:21:41.825
of like three comics you

00:21:41.845 --> 00:21:42.744
know crimson bay and two

00:21:42.785 --> 00:21:44.724
other comics yeah that

00:21:45.566 --> 00:21:47.306
makes it the shipping cost

00:21:47.425 --> 00:21:48.645
tends to be you know a lot

00:21:48.987 --> 00:21:50.586
expensive but when you get

00:21:50.626 --> 00:21:52.468
like three books there's like

00:21:54.135 --> 00:21:56.217
Yeah, there's like a cap to the cost.

00:21:56.696 --> 00:21:58.357
It makes the cost like better.

00:21:59.077 --> 00:22:00.057
And I kind of just created

00:22:00.077 --> 00:22:01.838
that and I call them combos because,

00:22:01.858 --> 00:22:03.138
you know, I could call it like, you know,

00:22:03.720 --> 00:22:06.540
packs, you know, something like that.

00:22:06.560 --> 00:22:08.141
I like it.

00:22:08.181 --> 00:22:09.001
It's much nicer.

00:22:09.021 --> 00:22:11.502
So yeah, it's so the round one,

00:22:11.563 --> 00:22:12.962
round two fits right in.

00:22:12.982 --> 00:22:13.103
Yeah.

00:22:13.242 --> 00:22:16.324
Three hit combo.

00:22:17.164 --> 00:22:17.505
Yeah.

00:22:17.525 --> 00:22:18.785
I like it.

00:22:19.045 --> 00:22:20.105
I like it.

00:22:23.955 --> 00:22:27.481
Excuse me.

00:22:27.501 --> 00:22:28.163
So give us a little

00:22:28.202 --> 00:22:28.844
background of the

00:22:28.903 --> 00:22:31.008
characters and basically

00:22:31.067 --> 00:22:33.652
like the story for Crimson Bay.

00:22:35.527 --> 00:22:36.067
Yeah, sure.

00:22:36.106 --> 00:22:37.748
This is the part where I'm really bad at,

00:22:37.768 --> 00:22:39.088
which is pitching my own work.

00:22:42.071 --> 00:22:43.232
You should see me at Comic Cons.

00:22:43.252 --> 00:22:45.855
So yeah,

00:22:45.875 --> 00:22:47.336
Crimson Bay is basically about

00:22:47.395 --> 00:22:50.778
these two brothers who have

00:22:50.818 --> 00:22:53.580
made this pledge to avenge

00:22:53.601 --> 00:22:54.701
their father who was killed

00:22:54.761 --> 00:22:58.605
by his supposed best friend.

00:23:00.125 --> 00:23:00.767
And that

00:23:02.130 --> 00:23:03.250
let's call him villain,

00:23:03.371 --> 00:23:05.574
like the final boss,

00:23:05.653 --> 00:23:06.795
whatever you want to call it.

00:23:08.936 --> 00:23:11.259
He's now the mayor of Crimson Bay.

00:23:11.740 --> 00:23:13.201
So he has a lot of power.

00:23:15.002 --> 00:23:16.023
And yeah, of course,

00:23:16.044 --> 00:23:16.904
these two brothers are

00:23:16.924 --> 00:23:19.086
going in after training an

00:23:19.126 --> 00:23:21.549
entire life to defeat him.

00:23:22.403 --> 00:23:23.545
are finally trying to

00:23:23.605 --> 00:23:25.826
accomplish that goal and um

00:23:26.807 --> 00:23:27.989
a lot of things are not

00:23:28.068 --> 00:23:29.871
exactly what they seem to

00:23:29.911 --> 00:23:31.352
be there are some mysteries

00:23:31.412 --> 00:23:34.275
some revelations that make

00:23:34.295 --> 00:23:37.196
things well harder and uh

00:23:38.397 --> 00:23:39.579
yeah some dilemmas that

00:23:39.759 --> 00:23:40.800
will kind of break them

00:23:40.820 --> 00:23:43.482
apart and uh yeah

00:23:43.982 --> 00:23:45.144
potentially put them at

00:23:45.305 --> 00:23:46.546
odds with each other the

00:23:46.566 --> 00:23:47.707
two brothers so that's

00:23:49.126 --> 00:23:50.406
That's terribly explained.

00:23:50.448 --> 00:23:50.988
That's it.

00:23:51.448 --> 00:23:52.147
I think it's... No, dude,

00:23:52.488 --> 00:23:54.068
I think that hit it right

00:23:54.128 --> 00:23:54.949
on the head there.

00:23:55.548 --> 00:23:56.609
Yeah, I think it's very explained,

00:23:56.670 --> 00:23:58.190
actually, in text when I wrote it,

00:23:58.230 --> 00:23:58.971
but yeah.

00:23:59.111 --> 00:24:00.451
No, you nailed that one.

00:24:00.471 --> 00:24:02.991
Yeah, that's... Yeah.

00:24:03.011 --> 00:24:04.333
I will write another public speaker.

00:24:06.209 --> 00:24:07.829
No, that was really good.

00:24:10.451 --> 00:24:11.750
Without giving a whole lot away,

00:24:11.770 --> 00:24:12.931
that's the best way to do it.

00:24:14.372 --> 00:24:16.673
So let's actually talk about

00:24:16.772 --> 00:24:18.353
the Kickstarter campaign

00:24:18.553 --> 00:24:20.193
itself this time around.

00:24:20.894 --> 00:24:22.115
I know you have a really

00:24:22.154 --> 00:24:23.595
great publication out there

00:24:23.694 --> 00:24:25.256
on running a Kickstarter

00:24:25.276 --> 00:24:26.155
that I have actually

00:24:26.296 --> 00:24:27.957
recommended to other people.

00:24:28.977 --> 00:24:30.196
and told them where to find it,

00:24:30.237 --> 00:24:31.357
like sent them the link to

00:24:31.417 --> 00:24:33.097
your site to where they could find that.

00:24:33.778 --> 00:24:34.598
So hopefully that's helped

00:24:34.659 --> 00:24:35.419
out some people.

00:24:36.199 --> 00:24:40.961
And but how are you doing

00:24:40.980 --> 00:24:42.000
things a little differently

00:24:42.141 --> 00:24:43.320
on this Kickstarter

00:24:43.361 --> 00:24:44.301
compared to some of your

00:24:44.422 --> 00:24:45.662
other Kickstarter and just

00:24:46.281 --> 00:24:47.782
like what can we expect off

00:24:47.823 --> 00:24:49.522
of this campaign versus

00:24:49.583 --> 00:24:50.824
previous campaigns?

00:24:50.844 --> 00:24:53.244
And yeah,

00:24:53.305 --> 00:24:54.664
I think the benefit with doing a

00:24:54.724 --> 00:24:55.984
few is that you start

00:24:56.025 --> 00:24:57.506
learning what works and what doesn't.

00:24:58.604 --> 00:24:59.984
So I used to have like a lot of like,

00:25:00.005 --> 00:25:01.707
you know, prints, bookmarks,

00:25:01.747 --> 00:25:02.607
that sort of stuff.

00:25:02.667 --> 00:25:04.189
And I don't know,

00:25:04.229 --> 00:25:05.170
I get a feeling that people

00:25:05.210 --> 00:25:07.010
don't really care that much, you know,

00:25:07.491 --> 00:25:09.272
if it's not known characters.

00:25:10.433 --> 00:25:11.535
If you go to a Comic-Con and

00:25:11.555 --> 00:25:12.957
someone has prints of, I don't know,

00:25:13.017 --> 00:25:13.696
Baldur's Gate,

00:25:13.717 --> 00:25:15.338
people will just be all over it.

00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:17.280
But if it's like a known character,

00:25:17.320 --> 00:25:17.560
you know,

00:25:18.645 --> 00:25:20.949
people are not really that interested.

00:25:21.450 --> 00:25:23.132
So I try to focus more on the books.

00:25:23.353 --> 00:25:24.334
And I'm lucky enough that

00:25:24.394 --> 00:25:28.038
now I have some books, not just the one.

00:25:29.721 --> 00:25:31.845
So yeah, I try to play around with that.

00:25:34.147 --> 00:25:36.391
a lot of the a lot of the

00:25:36.431 --> 00:25:38.053
rewards are around you know

00:25:38.073 --> 00:25:39.095
there's definitely the the

00:25:39.115 --> 00:25:39.935
book there's like three

00:25:39.955 --> 00:25:41.678
variant covers so there's

00:25:41.738 --> 00:25:43.520
the the main cover there's

00:25:43.540 --> 00:25:45.383
a cover that's uh an homage

00:25:45.423 --> 00:25:46.505
to king of fighters two

00:25:46.545 --> 00:25:48.688
thousand to the the poster

00:25:49.817 --> 00:25:51.018
one other cover which is an

00:25:51.057 --> 00:25:54.640
homage to will Eisner cover

00:25:54.779 --> 00:25:56.861
of spirit which has like I

00:25:56.881 --> 00:25:57.540
don't know if you've seen

00:25:57.560 --> 00:25:59.061
that yet I don't think that

00:25:59.582 --> 00:26:00.883
I share that with you yet

00:26:00.923 --> 00:26:02.503
because I got it recently

00:26:02.523 --> 00:26:06.986
yeah yeah it's like the

00:26:07.046 --> 00:26:09.846
title Crimson Bay I can I

00:26:11.780 --> 00:26:12.882
I could potentially send it

00:26:12.902 --> 00:26:13.803
to you if you want.

00:26:14.363 --> 00:26:15.804
Yeah, if you wanted to send it real quick,

00:26:15.864 --> 00:26:16.805
I could possibly share it

00:26:16.845 --> 00:26:17.305
and show people.

00:26:17.465 --> 00:26:19.507
Let me see if I can find it.

00:26:19.626 --> 00:26:21.048
It's still in black and white.

00:26:23.589 --> 00:26:24.830
I always find covers in

00:26:24.871 --> 00:26:25.832
black and white to be

00:26:26.172 --> 00:26:27.353
really nice sometimes.

00:26:28.173 --> 00:26:33.018
Yeah, it's a really nice cover,

00:26:33.077 --> 00:26:36.240
but it's this.

00:26:36.681 --> 00:26:37.881
Oh, I don't want to open it.

00:26:37.922 --> 00:26:38.541
I want to link.

00:26:42.977 --> 00:26:43.777
It's always hard when you

00:26:43.797 --> 00:26:45.198
get put on the spur of the

00:26:45.238 --> 00:26:45.958
moment trying to get

00:26:45.978 --> 00:26:46.878
something done like that.

00:26:46.919 --> 00:26:47.979
It's always difficult

00:26:48.138 --> 00:26:51.180
because you have to cooperate with you.

00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:52.119
Did you get that?

00:26:53.060 --> 00:26:54.760
Let me hit the refresh over here.

00:26:54.840 --> 00:26:57.082
No,

00:26:57.122 --> 00:26:58.742
did you email it or did you send it

00:26:58.782 --> 00:26:59.663
over on Blue Sky?

00:27:00.123 --> 00:27:01.023
Oh, I sent it here.

00:27:01.903 --> 00:27:03.384
Does that send to everyone?

00:27:05.865 --> 00:27:07.506
Did everyone see the link?

00:27:07.685 --> 00:27:08.405
No, no, no.

00:27:08.465 --> 00:27:09.307
It went to private chat.

00:27:09.326 --> 00:27:09.646
Hang on.

00:27:09.787 --> 00:27:10.186
I got you.

00:27:10.999 --> 00:27:12.779
I can send it to the blue.

00:27:12.940 --> 00:27:13.880
No, that's perfect.

00:27:15.361 --> 00:27:17.261
I'm just, um, here we go.

00:27:18.102 --> 00:27:19.823
Then let me move it over to here.

00:27:21.044 --> 00:27:21.903
Oh, that's dude.

00:27:21.923 --> 00:27:22.503
That's sick.

00:27:22.644 --> 00:27:23.045
Actually.

00:27:23.224 --> 00:27:25.945
Uh, let me do a screen share real quick.

00:27:26.026 --> 00:27:30.188
Yeah, it has like these, uh, the, that is,

00:27:30.228 --> 00:27:31.127
yeah, it's amazing.

00:27:32.628 --> 00:27:33.470
Oh, here we go.

00:27:35.711 --> 00:27:38.451
See screen share.

00:27:43.305 --> 00:27:47.407
Got it.

00:27:47.428 --> 00:27:48.327
I don't know if... Oh, here we go.

00:27:48.367 --> 00:27:48.488
There.

00:27:51.109 --> 00:27:53.551
Boom.

00:27:54.432 --> 00:27:55.413
Dude, that is sick.

00:27:56.032 --> 00:27:56.834
Yeah.

00:27:57.374 --> 00:27:58.094
That's freaking awesome.

00:27:58.114 --> 00:27:59.154
I can't wait to see that in color.

00:27:59.174 --> 00:28:00.096
That's going to be amazing.

00:28:00.736 --> 00:28:01.115
Yeah.

00:28:01.175 --> 00:28:03.557
So, yeah, Gabriel, who did Prey,

00:28:03.877 --> 00:28:05.719
and he did a few covers for me.

00:28:05.858 --> 00:28:07.039
Yeah, he did this cover.

00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:08.500
Prey's got some sick covers, too.

00:28:08.661 --> 00:28:10.362
I don't know how many of the

00:28:10.521 --> 00:28:12.304
people out there watching this are...

00:28:13.321 --> 00:28:14.843
will listen to this later if

00:28:15.022 --> 00:28:18.104
you haven't read prey it is

00:28:18.324 --> 00:28:19.904
such an awesome book and

00:28:19.944 --> 00:28:21.125
the cover on it was just

00:28:21.385 --> 00:28:24.166
amazing and this right here

00:28:24.227 --> 00:28:26.627
is like absolutely phenomenal

00:28:27.423 --> 00:28:29.284
yeah same artist the colors

00:28:29.344 --> 00:28:30.263
is going to be the same as

00:28:30.304 --> 00:28:34.505
well uh so yeah he yeah uh

00:28:34.625 --> 00:28:35.345
I can't wait to see the

00:28:35.365 --> 00:28:36.444
colored version but it just

00:28:36.464 --> 00:28:39.046
looks great uh I mean yeah

00:28:39.066 --> 00:28:41.307
it's an homage to the will

00:28:41.366 --> 00:28:42.406
eisner you know of all

00:28:42.446 --> 00:28:45.587
people cover it's yeah it's

00:28:46.008 --> 00:28:46.948
I'm really happy with this

00:28:46.988 --> 00:28:48.167
cover as well so yeah yeah

00:28:48.228 --> 00:28:49.308
that's that's that's

00:28:49.328 --> 00:28:52.250
phenomenal dude yeah so um

00:28:52.269 --> 00:28:53.769
no more teasing of the people

00:28:55.476 --> 00:28:57.297
yeah there's those um

00:28:57.737 --> 00:28:58.857
there's those three covers

00:28:59.077 --> 00:29:01.038
and uh yeah then I have

00:29:01.078 --> 00:29:02.119
like the what I was telling

00:29:02.140 --> 00:29:03.819
you about about the isco

00:29:03.940 --> 00:29:06.301
combos which is like three

00:29:06.321 --> 00:29:08.002
books crimson bay plus you

00:29:08.022 --> 00:29:09.823
know two other books that

00:29:10.003 --> 00:29:11.003
if you get all three you

00:29:11.023 --> 00:29:12.484
get you save on shipping

00:29:12.505 --> 00:29:14.066
costs so I'm trying to

00:29:14.105 --> 00:29:16.487
focus on those uh bundles yeah

00:29:16.960 --> 00:29:20.421
Combos.

00:29:20.441 --> 00:29:21.280
So, yeah,

00:29:21.300 --> 00:29:24.181
that's very much the kind of rewards.

00:29:24.320 --> 00:29:29.241
I also kind of have one to be drawn on,

00:29:29.402 --> 00:29:32.742
you know, a feature comic because,

00:29:32.762 --> 00:29:35.624
you know, I think people do enjoy that.

00:29:35.644 --> 00:29:37.763
That's become really popular

00:29:38.483 --> 00:29:41.244
in Kickstarter over the last, like,

00:29:41.285 --> 00:29:43.904
year or so that I noticed that, you know,

00:29:43.944 --> 00:29:46.526
you go up to a certain dollar level,

00:29:46.625 --> 00:29:46.806
like,

00:29:49.029 --> 00:29:51.310
the writer or artist writer

00:29:51.371 --> 00:29:52.971
will include you in the

00:29:53.010 --> 00:29:55.152
comic book to a certain degree,

00:29:55.392 --> 00:29:58.094
or they'll do a rendering

00:29:58.354 --> 00:29:59.973
image of you as a dead guy

00:30:00.013 --> 00:30:01.234
laying on the side or something,

00:30:01.335 --> 00:30:02.615
which I think that's really

00:30:02.654 --> 00:30:06.576
cool if within reason.

00:30:07.037 --> 00:30:07.998
You know what I'm saying?

00:30:08.157 --> 00:30:09.018
I've seen how much some

00:30:09.057 --> 00:30:10.538
people charge for that, and I'm just like,

00:30:10.719 --> 00:30:12.700
dude, you're way over your head on that.

00:30:13.799 --> 00:30:15.520
This is a Kickstarter campaign.

00:30:16.396 --> 00:30:17.877
I'm like, I mean,

00:30:17.897 --> 00:30:19.499
if somebody really is like

00:30:20.338 --> 00:30:21.680
a big fan and a big

00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:23.921
supporter of that person, yeah, obviously,

00:30:24.101 --> 00:30:25.181
you know, go for it.

00:30:26.862 --> 00:30:28.522
But some of those prices

00:30:28.583 --> 00:30:29.344
I've seen out there for

00:30:29.364 --> 00:30:30.743
some of that stuff, I'm like, dude,

00:30:30.784 --> 00:30:31.825
that kind of money could

00:30:31.884 --> 00:30:33.385
fund like three campaigns

00:30:33.425 --> 00:30:34.006
for some people.

00:30:35.310 --> 00:30:36.612
yeah yeah I mean it's not

00:30:36.652 --> 00:30:37.613
like you know it's not

00:30:37.633 --> 00:30:39.974
going to be totally I don't

00:30:39.994 --> 00:30:41.256
know which values you you

00:30:41.316 --> 00:30:42.356
saw but it's not going to

00:30:42.376 --> 00:30:44.338
be like completely insane

00:30:44.378 --> 00:30:45.799
thing I've seen some that

00:30:45.819 --> 00:30:47.441
were like several grand

00:30:47.780 --> 00:30:49.542
just uh yeah it was

00:30:50.262 --> 00:30:52.825
obscenely it's like grossly

00:30:53.806 --> 00:30:55.867
overpriced no I mean

00:30:56.288 --> 00:30:57.108
especially because it's

00:30:57.128 --> 00:30:57.969
like you say right it's

00:30:57.989 --> 00:31:00.571
like you're going to be some that guy or

00:31:01.549 --> 00:31:03.111
Like, you know, not that that guy,

00:31:03.131 --> 00:31:05.853
but like a goon or, you know,

00:31:05.893 --> 00:31:07.354
some someone who is going

00:31:07.394 --> 00:31:09.236
to appear and be, you know, to me,

00:31:09.296 --> 00:31:10.237
like when I see like a

00:31:10.297 --> 00:31:11.938
price like that attached to something,

00:31:11.958 --> 00:31:12.617
I'm like, oh,

00:31:12.657 --> 00:31:13.759
is Mark Miller doing this

00:31:13.778 --> 00:31:16.060
book or Mark Spears?

00:31:16.080 --> 00:31:18.403
Like who's doing this book?

00:31:19.218 --> 00:31:20.338
yeah you know if I'm seeing

00:31:20.358 --> 00:31:21.239
that kind of price on

00:31:21.298 --> 00:31:22.619
something to be included in

00:31:22.660 --> 00:31:24.780
the book to some degree I'm

00:31:24.800 --> 00:31:26.741
thinking it's somebody huge

00:31:27.041 --> 00:31:28.262
yeah I'm not there yet

00:31:30.144 --> 00:31:31.484
three doors down coloring a

00:31:31.505 --> 00:31:32.644
book with crayons you know

00:31:32.664 --> 00:31:35.026
yeah may never be so you

00:31:35.267 --> 00:31:38.949
know no not yet um yeah

00:31:39.068 --> 00:31:39.909
it's it's basically that

00:31:39.949 --> 00:31:40.970
it's just focusing on

00:31:40.990 --> 00:31:41.910
that's really cool man

00:31:41.930 --> 00:31:43.790
because when it's done

00:31:43.830 --> 00:31:46.873
correctly it's really cool to see

00:31:47.934 --> 00:31:49.316
yeah yeah and it's

00:31:49.355 --> 00:31:50.276
definitely not going to be

00:31:50.316 --> 00:31:54.136
like you know um you know

00:31:54.156 --> 00:31:55.617
like main characters stuff

00:31:55.637 --> 00:31:56.417
like that it's like you

00:31:56.438 --> 00:31:59.778
know um yeah it's just like

00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:02.220
you're going to be like

00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:03.861
some you know extra let's

00:32:03.881 --> 00:32:05.000
put it like that it's like

00:32:05.221 --> 00:32:06.221
yeah that's really cool I

00:32:06.241 --> 00:32:07.442
mean like I mean I mean

00:32:07.481 --> 00:32:08.142
imagine though you're

00:32:08.241 --> 00:32:09.123
flipping through a book

00:32:09.163 --> 00:32:11.923
that you helped fund and on

00:32:11.963 --> 00:32:13.663
page you know twenty six

00:32:13.683 --> 00:32:15.464
there you are standing in the crowd like

00:32:17.112 --> 00:32:18.333
You know, or something like that.

00:32:18.432 --> 00:32:19.373
To me, that's really cool.

00:32:19.814 --> 00:32:22.394
And when done correctly in a

00:32:22.434 --> 00:32:23.695
cost-effective way,

00:32:23.836 --> 00:32:25.355
it's something really cool.

00:32:25.596 --> 00:32:27.616
Because that makes you want to be like, oh,

00:32:27.636 --> 00:32:29.357
yeah, dude, how cool would this be?

00:32:30.098 --> 00:32:35.662
So... But no, I know whatever you do,

00:32:35.682 --> 00:32:36.741
you're going to do it right.

00:32:37.001 --> 00:32:39.923
I've not... Definitely not

00:32:39.963 --> 00:32:43.345
hundreds of... I've seen, like I said,

00:32:43.365 --> 00:32:44.205
I've seen some that were

00:32:44.226 --> 00:32:46.126
just absolutely absurd and...

00:32:47.317 --> 00:32:49.839
like the expectation, you know, when you,

00:32:50.099 --> 00:32:50.299
you know,

00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:52.861
cause as a writer and as a

00:32:52.961 --> 00:32:54.182
person running a campaign,

00:32:54.201 --> 00:32:54.982
you're going to share your

00:32:55.103 --> 00:32:57.203
artwork for the book to

00:32:57.284 --> 00:32:59.204
some degree on the campaign page.

00:33:00.346 --> 00:33:01.425
And like some of the books

00:33:01.445 --> 00:33:02.027
that we're seeing that

00:33:02.067 --> 00:33:03.847
we're offering that as a option,

00:33:04.667 --> 00:33:09.230
it's like, good, thanks.

00:33:10.192 --> 00:33:13.693
You know, it's just like,

00:33:14.554 --> 00:33:15.575
it almost felt like,

00:33:16.765 --> 00:33:18.726
I'm hoping this is like the rough sketches,

00:33:18.865 --> 00:33:20.145
like a storyboard type of

00:33:20.165 --> 00:33:20.807
thing where you're showing

00:33:20.846 --> 00:33:21.686
the storyboard.

00:33:22.467 --> 00:33:23.586
I hope this isn't what's

00:33:23.646 --> 00:33:24.728
actually the pages going

00:33:24.807 --> 00:33:26.627
into this book is.

00:33:27.209 --> 00:33:28.449
Yeah.

00:33:28.568 --> 00:33:29.829
And that's not a knock on

00:33:29.930 --> 00:33:31.789
anybody or just

00:33:32.410 --> 00:33:33.611
observations I've made

00:33:33.651 --> 00:33:34.590
while looking at on

00:33:34.631 --> 00:33:38.152
Kickstarter and just like, you know,

00:33:38.192 --> 00:33:39.393
sometimes you're just sitting around like,

00:33:39.432 --> 00:33:39.633
Hey,

00:33:39.653 --> 00:33:41.472
let me see what's on Kickstarter and just,

00:33:42.294 --> 00:33:43.054
you know, get a feel.

00:33:43.094 --> 00:33:45.634
Cause I think that's a good, um,

00:33:46.925 --> 00:33:49.648
of indicator of like how

00:33:49.689 --> 00:33:52.270
comic art evolves is

00:33:52.310 --> 00:33:53.432
hopping on kickstarter and

00:33:53.451 --> 00:33:54.792
just having to look through

00:33:55.634 --> 00:33:56.515
some of the things that are

00:33:56.555 --> 00:33:57.816
happening on kickstarter

00:33:57.836 --> 00:33:58.856
because I think you know a

00:33:58.876 --> 00:34:01.378
lot of the art styles they

00:34:01.419 --> 00:34:02.339
eventually make their way

00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:04.182
mainstream and stuff like

00:34:04.221 --> 00:34:06.344
that like the anime style yeah

00:34:06.923 --> 00:34:08.164
which I think the anime

00:34:08.204 --> 00:34:09.583
style has been around for a while,

00:34:09.643 --> 00:34:10.585
but the first time you

00:34:10.625 --> 00:34:13.326
really see it mainstream, in my opinion,

00:34:13.365 --> 00:34:15.327
in a comic book form was

00:34:15.387 --> 00:34:17.387
Peach Momoko doing Visions

00:34:18.047 --> 00:34:20.489
and some of the other

00:34:20.548 --> 00:34:21.829
things she's done with Marvel.

00:34:22.949 --> 00:34:23.490
And to me, like...

00:34:24.771 --> 00:34:26.192
I don't think she started

00:34:26.231 --> 00:34:28.432
that but from a mainstream

00:34:28.472 --> 00:34:29.753
comic book perspective

00:34:30.373 --> 00:34:32.034
she's the very first one I

00:34:32.054 --> 00:34:33.135
can think of off the top of

00:34:33.155 --> 00:34:35.456
my head that really put

00:34:35.476 --> 00:34:36.818
that stamp on it and made

00:34:36.858 --> 00:34:38.798
it something that a lot of

00:34:38.898 --> 00:34:40.000
other people are trying to

00:34:40.099 --> 00:34:41.621
now I don't want to say

00:34:41.780 --> 00:34:44.041
imitate but like pick up

00:34:44.061 --> 00:34:45.342
that style and go with it

00:34:45.382 --> 00:34:46.322
which is really cool yeah

00:34:47.063 --> 00:34:49.244
it became more um I don't know um

00:34:49.809 --> 00:34:51.150
I mean, it's mainstream.

00:34:51.391 --> 00:34:51.710
Yeah.

00:34:52.050 --> 00:34:53.791
But I don't want to say like

00:34:53.811 --> 00:34:54.831
somebody stole something or

00:34:54.871 --> 00:34:55.632
copied something,

00:34:55.672 --> 00:34:57.273
but it's definitely an influence.

00:34:58.474 --> 00:34:58.753
Yeah.

00:34:58.813 --> 00:34:59.614
And I think sometimes it's

00:34:59.655 --> 00:35:00.534
not so much that you're

00:35:00.775 --> 00:35:02.115
being influenced by that.

00:35:02.175 --> 00:35:04.277
It's that you have that style.

00:35:04.297 --> 00:35:05.878
It's just that style was not as,

00:35:06.617 --> 00:35:07.998
I don't know, accepted, I guess,

00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:08.679
in comics.

00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:09.760
Yeah.

00:35:10.739 --> 00:35:12.380
I think that's really dope because, I mean,

00:35:12.481 --> 00:35:13.661
Peach Momoko did a whole

00:35:13.702 --> 00:35:15.021
comic book where there's no

00:35:15.061 --> 00:35:16.503
words spoken whatsoever.

00:35:16.523 --> 00:35:16.643
Yeah.

00:35:17.608 --> 00:35:19.068
It's all told through

00:35:19.268 --> 00:35:21.250
actions of the characters in the book.

00:35:21.869 --> 00:35:23.130
And it's probably one of my

00:35:23.190 --> 00:35:24.211
favorite comic books of all

00:35:24.251 --> 00:35:25.331
times with Star Wars

00:35:25.391 --> 00:35:26.452
visions that she did.

00:35:27.954 --> 00:35:31.554
So again, zero words.

00:35:31.574 --> 00:35:32.576
Yeah.

00:35:32.856 --> 00:35:34.117
No writing whatsoever.

00:35:36.092 --> 00:35:36.972
I mean, the writing is there.

00:35:36.992 --> 00:35:37.813
The story was beautiful.

00:35:37.893 --> 00:35:39.094
Yeah, the writing is there,

00:35:39.173 --> 00:35:41.175
just not too many words.

00:35:41.655 --> 00:35:43.737
Exactly, and it was done wonderfully.

00:35:44.498 --> 00:35:45.259
So, I mean,

00:35:45.278 --> 00:35:46.920
I really appreciate the anime style,

00:35:47.021 --> 00:35:48.402
but what I'm getting at is

00:35:49.141 --> 00:35:50.043
I think Kickstarter is a

00:35:50.103 --> 00:35:51.684
great indication of where

00:35:51.945 --> 00:35:53.266
you can kind of see future

00:35:53.365 --> 00:35:54.827
of comic books and the arts

00:35:54.867 --> 00:35:56.447
and stuff like that going

00:35:57.248 --> 00:35:57.789
when you're paying

00:35:57.829 --> 00:35:59.771
attention to what you're looking for.

00:36:01.516 --> 00:36:02.556
And you have a lot of

00:36:02.597 --> 00:36:04.458
amazing artists there as well.

00:36:04.538 --> 00:36:04.778
I mean,

00:36:04.998 --> 00:36:08.061
you can see it's really hard to go

00:36:08.101 --> 00:36:09.262
on Kickstarter and not see

00:36:09.302 --> 00:36:10.362
something that you like

00:36:10.782 --> 00:36:11.804
because there's a lot.

00:36:12.463 --> 00:36:15.686
Yeah.

00:36:15.806 --> 00:36:16.487
It really is.

00:36:16.586 --> 00:36:18.309
And I'm blown away every

00:36:18.349 --> 00:36:20.650
time I'm on Kickstarter by

00:36:20.670 --> 00:36:21.771
some of the books on there

00:36:21.811 --> 00:36:23.112
and some of the art on there.

00:36:24.072 --> 00:36:25.014
Some of the stories being

00:36:25.054 --> 00:36:26.695
told because they're never

00:36:26.735 --> 00:36:27.856
going to see mainstream

00:36:27.916 --> 00:36:30.177
either due to the content of the book

00:36:31.635 --> 00:36:32.797
Are there just no studios

00:36:32.817 --> 00:36:35.460
willing to roll dice on a book like that?

00:36:36.219 --> 00:36:37.081
And that's what I love about

00:36:37.141 --> 00:36:39.603
Kickstarter so much is

00:36:40.684 --> 00:36:41.644
there's people out there

00:36:41.664 --> 00:36:42.786
making some really,

00:36:42.925 --> 00:36:44.146
really good horror books

00:36:44.186 --> 00:36:47.329
that buy what we see horror

00:36:47.349 --> 00:36:48.510
books as sold on the

00:36:48.550 --> 00:36:50.652
mainstream marketplace

00:36:50.873 --> 00:36:52.074
through comic book shops.

00:36:53.536 --> 00:36:54.755
But on Kickstarter,

00:36:54.916 --> 00:36:58.378
there's a reason why that book just moved,

00:36:58.978 --> 00:36:59.378
you know,

00:36:59.557 --> 00:37:01.197
ten thousand or twenty thousand

00:37:01.358 --> 00:37:04.920
units because you can't get

00:37:04.940 --> 00:37:05.920
it anywhere else.

00:37:06.059 --> 00:37:07.260
And Kickstarter is the only

00:37:07.621 --> 00:37:09.081
place where it can be funded.

00:37:09.300 --> 00:37:11.101
And they're beautifully done.

00:37:11.601 --> 00:37:13.101
They're scary as hell.

00:37:13.161 --> 00:37:15.043
It feels like you're the

00:37:15.083 --> 00:37:16.302
next victim on the next

00:37:16.342 --> 00:37:18.284
page because they're so good.

00:37:24.315 --> 00:37:28.077
But so outside,

00:37:28.358 --> 00:37:29.298
like what's the ultimate

00:37:29.338 --> 00:37:31.860
goal for Crimson Bay once

00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:33.943
you're fully funded and

00:37:33.983 --> 00:37:34.804
where do you see this

00:37:34.844 --> 00:37:36.125
project going into future?

00:37:36.144 --> 00:37:37.286
I know you've kind of hinted

00:37:37.306 --> 00:37:39.347
that there's definitely an issue too.

00:37:39.367 --> 00:37:41.389
Oh yeah.

00:37:41.449 --> 00:37:43.090
Which is the first time out

00:37:43.110 --> 00:37:44.351
of your mouth you said

00:37:44.911 --> 00:37:46.333
there will be an issue too.

00:37:47.494 --> 00:37:48.215
Yeah, yeah, no.

00:37:48.255 --> 00:37:50.396
So the projects I've done

00:37:50.416 --> 00:37:51.818
before were made,

00:37:52.759 --> 00:37:55.300
basically like um one shots

00:37:55.500 --> 00:37:57.420
or anthologies because you

00:37:57.460 --> 00:37:58.961
know you're starting out

00:37:58.981 --> 00:37:59.902
you want to start out

00:37:59.922 --> 00:38:01.423
without a big commitment

00:38:01.483 --> 00:38:03.164
that sort of stuff but yeah

00:38:03.244 --> 00:38:04.144
I think I'm at the point

00:38:04.184 --> 00:38:06.445
where you know Crimson Bay

00:38:06.465 --> 00:38:07.907
is a series Flame Vault is

00:38:07.927 --> 00:38:12.489
going to be a series um uh

00:38:12.528 --> 00:38:13.730
the Odyssey that one looks

00:38:13.769 --> 00:38:14.630
really cool too if you

00:38:14.670 --> 00:38:15.971
follow Bruno on Kickstarter

00:38:15.990 --> 00:38:18.231
you've seen the teaser for

00:38:18.251 --> 00:38:19.172
that one it's like a

00:38:21.929 --> 00:38:23.369
I don't want to say mid-century,

00:38:23.449 --> 00:38:25.431
but like a... You're taking

00:38:25.451 --> 00:38:28.211
it back to the golden years of the UK,

00:38:28.271 --> 00:38:28.893
I'm guessing.

00:38:29.552 --> 00:38:30.693
When there's knights and

00:38:30.773 --> 00:38:32.034
damsels in distress,

00:38:32.054 --> 00:38:33.114
it kind of feels like...

00:38:33.875 --> 00:38:35.275
You're talking about Family and Honor.

00:38:35.396 --> 00:38:37.117
Yeah, sorry.

00:38:37.197 --> 00:38:37.456
That's it.

00:38:37.617 --> 00:38:38.378
My bad.

00:38:40.338 --> 00:38:41.480
That one looks really cool too.

00:38:42.309 --> 00:38:43.610
yeah yeah I mean I have

00:38:44.090 --> 00:38:45.331
several projects right now

00:38:45.431 --> 00:38:46.313
on pre-launch on

00:38:46.333 --> 00:38:49.514
kickstarter uh so yeah but

00:38:49.534 --> 00:38:51.496
uh I'm moving more towards

00:38:51.536 --> 00:38:53.717
that uh you know the series

00:38:53.938 --> 00:38:56.018
so crimson bay yeah is

00:38:56.079 --> 00:38:56.920
going to be the first one

00:38:56.940 --> 00:38:58.721
to be released issue one

00:38:59.362 --> 00:39:00.882
it's this kickstarter issue

00:39:00.922 --> 00:39:03.945
two is well into you know

00:39:04.974 --> 00:39:07.896
art art uh so samuel sent me

00:39:07.936 --> 00:39:10.697
today pages nine to twelve

00:39:11.018 --> 00:39:12.338
okay so do you know how

00:39:12.358 --> 00:39:13.460
long this book is gonna be

00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:15.041
like how many rounds are we

00:39:15.061 --> 00:39:16.021
getting out of this book

00:39:16.601 --> 00:39:18.023
not sure I think the first

00:39:18.063 --> 00:39:19.003
start is going to be like

00:39:19.063 --> 00:39:20.983
five six probably six okay

00:39:21.423 --> 00:39:23.266
from what I outlined so far

00:39:24.206 --> 00:39:27.407
um yeah I I have

00:39:28.978 --> 00:39:29.659
I don't have like a

00:39:29.739 --> 00:39:31.579
definitive answer for how

00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:32.420
long it's going to be,

00:39:32.460 --> 00:39:33.782
but it's probably going to be like three,

00:39:33.802 --> 00:39:36.682
four hours at least.

00:39:36.742 --> 00:39:37.463
Okay.

00:39:37.563 --> 00:39:38.684
Each week five books.

00:39:38.764 --> 00:39:40.724
So yeah, just, you know,

00:39:41.244 --> 00:39:42.266
I like those numbers.

00:39:42.346 --> 00:39:45.067
I like when a book goes, you know,

00:39:45.166 --> 00:39:47.389
five or six, you know,

00:39:47.528 --> 00:39:49.530
issues are in this case rounds.

00:39:49.590 --> 00:39:53.072
I think, I think that's a good number.

00:39:54.092 --> 00:39:55.952
And I know recently, um,

00:39:56.072 --> 00:39:57.514
at San Diego comic-con.

00:39:59.532 --> 00:40:01.134
Tiny Onion and James Tinian

00:40:01.153 --> 00:40:02.554
announced that something is

00:40:02.574 --> 00:40:03.514
killing the children is

00:40:03.554 --> 00:40:05.115
probably going to be more like a hundred.

00:40:07.637 --> 00:40:08.097
I'm like, dude,

00:40:08.117 --> 00:40:09.757
we're on issue thirty four.

00:40:11.318 --> 00:40:12.300
Yeah.

00:40:15.061 --> 00:40:17.282
Yeah, but if you look at like other,

00:40:17.362 --> 00:40:20.443
you know, series that did really well,

00:40:20.463 --> 00:40:20.724
you know,

00:40:20.764 --> 00:40:23.706
like Walking Dead and that stuff

00:40:23.726 --> 00:40:24.226
like that.

00:40:24.487 --> 00:40:24.967
Yeah.

00:40:25.007 --> 00:40:26.007
Went to the hundreds.

00:40:26.067 --> 00:40:26.487
So, yeah.

00:40:26.507 --> 00:40:26.588
So

00:40:27.391 --> 00:40:29.652
So that's a conversation I

00:40:29.713 --> 00:40:30.793
actually just had at my

00:40:30.833 --> 00:40:32.072
local comic book shop with

00:40:32.112 --> 00:40:34.233
the owner is like you don't

00:40:34.373 --> 00:40:37.695
see a lot of books do that

00:40:37.795 --> 00:40:39.755
outside of like, you know, Batman,

00:40:39.795 --> 00:40:42.896
Superman, X-Men, your bigger name.

00:40:42.956 --> 00:40:47.197
So for indie publication, Image,

00:40:47.217 --> 00:40:47.978
in my opinion,

00:40:48.018 --> 00:40:49.478
hasn't been a indie

00:40:49.518 --> 00:40:51.798
publication in a long damn time.

00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:54.382
Not since the nineties, basically,

00:40:54.422 --> 00:40:55.103
in my opinion.

00:40:56.864 --> 00:40:58.505
But it's just not something you see.

00:40:58.585 --> 00:41:00.585
I know like Grimm is getting

00:41:00.626 --> 00:41:02.067
ready to end over at Boom

00:41:02.106 --> 00:41:03.708
Studios with twenty five

00:41:03.728 --> 00:41:07.030
volumes and twenty five beautiful issues.

00:41:07.090 --> 00:41:09.753
I must say it is hands down

00:41:09.913 --> 00:41:11.693
one of my top fives, you know,

00:41:11.713 --> 00:41:12.534
from studios.

00:41:14.056 --> 00:41:17.157
And that one kind of hit because, you know,

00:41:17.177 --> 00:41:18.539
we're on issue twenty three right now,

00:41:18.759 --> 00:41:19.760
Grimm, and I'm just like.

00:41:21.510 --> 00:41:22.670
there's only two more of this.

00:41:22.710 --> 00:41:24.771
Like, like I'm happy.

00:41:24.791 --> 00:41:25.951
Yeah.

00:41:25.971 --> 00:41:27.550
But at the same time, I'm like,

00:41:27.952 --> 00:41:28.931
it's ending though.

00:41:29.152 --> 00:41:29.532
You know,

00:41:29.771 --> 00:41:31.311
like you don't know how to feel about it,

00:41:31.871 --> 00:41:34.112
but you know, a lot of things, you know,

00:41:34.432 --> 00:41:35.353
I know Mark Miller is

00:41:35.413 --> 00:41:38.733
really big in like five or six issues,

00:41:38.773 --> 00:41:39.054
you know,

00:41:39.114 --> 00:41:41.715
and sometimes they feel a little

00:41:41.735 --> 00:41:42.295
rushed and,

00:41:43.987 --> 00:41:45.329
but I understand why he did

00:41:45.369 --> 00:41:46.590
it the last time he did it,

00:41:47.449 --> 00:41:48.070
because he was getting

00:41:48.090 --> 00:41:49.331
ready to jump into a bigger

00:41:49.391 --> 00:41:50.652
project and he needed that

00:41:50.692 --> 00:41:52.972
time to work on that, which, cool.

00:41:53.974 --> 00:41:55.275
Completely understand.

00:41:56.934 --> 00:41:59.056
It felt rushed, but at the same time,

00:42:00.117 --> 00:42:02.398
appropriate ending.

00:42:02.438 --> 00:42:05.019
Just a little rush, I think.

00:42:05.780 --> 00:42:08.981
But that five assists range is, I think,

00:42:09.001 --> 00:42:09.583
a good...

00:42:12.409 --> 00:42:13.931
You can get a good story, you know,

00:42:14.192 --> 00:42:15.411
comic books for twenty six,

00:42:15.512 --> 00:42:16.512
thirty two pages,

00:42:17.074 --> 00:42:18.094
somewhere in that range.

00:42:19.255 --> 00:42:20.496
And it's a lot of time and a

00:42:20.516 --> 00:42:21.797
lot of stuff you can cover

00:42:21.817 --> 00:42:24.039
in that time frame with the

00:42:24.099 --> 00:42:25.139
right artists and the right

00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:27.260
letter and stuff like that.

00:42:28.601 --> 00:42:28.961
Yeah,

00:42:29.081 --> 00:42:31.423
it's definitely hard to get to those.

00:42:32.545 --> 00:42:34.525
Yeah, even getting to the thirties,

00:42:34.766 --> 00:42:35.126
you know,

00:42:35.847 --> 00:42:37.608
for most creators is really hard.

00:42:37.648 --> 00:42:39.090
But getting to a hundred, I mean,

00:42:39.570 --> 00:42:40.570
you need to be, you know,

00:42:41.443 --> 00:42:43.244
need to be robert kirkman or

00:42:43.324 --> 00:42:44.726
tinian right you know you

00:42:44.766 --> 00:42:46.686
need to be those guys I

00:42:46.806 --> 00:42:49.909
still don't think I'm

00:42:49.949 --> 00:42:50.811
trying to think well you

00:42:50.831 --> 00:42:52.311
know tinian has finished

00:42:52.351 --> 00:42:54.152
some books he's finished uh

00:42:54.373 --> 00:42:55.554
the deviant which is a

00:42:55.594 --> 00:42:58.516
phenomenal phenomenal series um

00:43:00.434 --> 00:43:02.856
I mean, the house in the lake,

00:43:02.876 --> 00:43:04.016
he technically finished it.

00:43:04.056 --> 00:43:05.036
He just did, you know, a sequel,

00:43:05.056 --> 00:43:07.938
but he technically finished it.

00:43:07.998 --> 00:43:08.398
He did,

00:43:08.438 --> 00:43:09.958
and then he started with the sequel

00:43:09.998 --> 00:43:12.159
to The Nice House on the Lake.

00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:14.481
Or not The Nice House on the Lake.

00:43:15.340 --> 00:43:15.681
The Sea.

00:43:15.740 --> 00:43:16.621
Nice House by the Sea, yeah.

00:43:16.702 --> 00:43:17.061
Thank you.

00:43:18.202 --> 00:43:19.101
Another one.

00:43:19.181 --> 00:43:20.143
Just phenomenal,

00:43:20.262 --> 00:43:22.664
phenomenal work by Tinian.

00:43:24.244 --> 00:43:25.224
can literally have a whole

00:43:25.543 --> 00:43:26.925
episode on just talking

00:43:26.945 --> 00:43:28.545
about tinian's work because

00:43:28.605 --> 00:43:29.905
I'm such a huge fan of his

00:43:29.965 --> 00:43:32.465
yeah and what he does and

00:43:33.545 --> 00:43:34.666
like right now exquisite

00:43:34.686 --> 00:43:36.367
corpses to me is like the

00:43:36.407 --> 00:43:37.567
comic book of I haven't

00:43:37.586 --> 00:43:41.887
read that yet dude it's

00:43:42.708 --> 00:43:45.929
phenomenal phenomenal it's

00:43:45.989 --> 00:43:50.010
like every halloween the rich people

00:43:51.356 --> 00:43:52.818
select their serial killer

00:43:52.898 --> 00:43:54.480
and drop it into a small town.

00:43:54.500 --> 00:43:56.440
Oh.

00:43:56.481 --> 00:44:00.423
And then let chaos and mayhem, you know,

00:44:00.485 --> 00:44:00.804
go.

00:44:01.726 --> 00:44:03.947
And how they did it is they

00:44:03.967 --> 00:44:05.668
created a playing card game.

00:44:07.030 --> 00:44:09.452
And whoever dies in the card

00:44:09.492 --> 00:44:12.693
game is the next murderer

00:44:12.835 --> 00:44:14.516
to die in the comic book.

00:44:18.317 --> 00:44:18.436
Okay.

00:44:18.456 --> 00:44:19.516
So it's a really cool

00:44:19.556 --> 00:44:20.338
concept how they're

00:44:20.378 --> 00:44:23.239
combining this card game

00:44:23.259 --> 00:44:23.998
they're playing with their

00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:26.940
friends into the comic book

00:44:27.161 --> 00:44:31.302
to determine who dies next in the book.

00:44:31.362 --> 00:44:32.344
Yeah, that's a cool concept.

00:44:32.384 --> 00:44:33.224
I need to check that out.

00:44:33.264 --> 00:44:33.643
Yeah.

00:44:33.704 --> 00:44:34.804
What's the name of the book, sorry?

00:44:34.985 --> 00:44:36.465
Exquisite Corpses.

00:44:36.485 --> 00:44:38.746
I mean,

00:44:38.766 --> 00:44:42.188
the characters are absolutely phenomenal.

00:44:42.389 --> 00:44:43.108
Is that Tinian?

00:44:43.949 --> 00:44:44.210
Yes.

00:44:45.010 --> 00:44:45.150
Oh.

00:44:45.269 --> 00:44:45.710
Yeah.

00:44:45.809 --> 00:44:46.831
I need to check this.

00:44:50.570 --> 00:44:53.590
yeah I'm trying to think

00:44:53.610 --> 00:44:54.351
trying to remember when the

00:44:54.371 --> 00:44:55.972
last one came out and if I

00:44:55.992 --> 00:44:57.211
have it sitting here or not

00:45:00.034 --> 00:45:03.934
no but I did get just oh

00:45:03.954 --> 00:45:04.936
that's the new Garth Ennis

00:45:04.976 --> 00:45:10.237
right there war dude that

00:45:10.277 --> 00:45:16.119
book is amazing yeah it's

00:45:16.139 --> 00:45:18.061
Garth Ennis man of course it's amazing

00:45:20.931 --> 00:45:22.333
Garth Dennis is up there, dude.

00:45:22.474 --> 00:45:25.317
He's like, he slaps his name on anything.

00:45:25.356 --> 00:45:26.677
A coloring book, I'm buying it.

00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:29.842
Yeah.

00:45:29.882 --> 00:45:31.423
Just like Tinian.

00:45:31.744 --> 00:45:33.306
There's certain people who

00:45:33.967 --> 00:45:34.746
they could put their name

00:45:34.786 --> 00:45:36.349
on anything and it's like, okay,

00:45:36.369 --> 00:45:36.829
I'll take two.

00:45:37.556 --> 00:45:39.797
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

00:45:39.858 --> 00:45:40.117
Yeah.

00:45:42.179 --> 00:45:44.018
I definitely have some some

00:45:44.980 --> 00:45:47.159
some writers that I'm that

00:45:47.260 --> 00:45:48.061
it's like that for me as

00:45:48.101 --> 00:45:49.300
well that I'm like, yeah,

00:45:49.501 --> 00:45:50.742
I want all of their stuff.

00:45:52.202 --> 00:45:53.663
And Tinian is increasingly

00:45:53.802 --> 00:45:54.742
becoming one of them.

00:45:55.503 --> 00:45:56.684
I just didn't know about this book.

00:45:56.704 --> 00:45:58.983
Now, you got to check it out.

00:45:59.003 --> 00:46:00.125
He's got a few.

00:46:01.644 --> 00:46:03.385
And this he he has his own

00:46:03.425 --> 00:46:05.146
publisher or own publishing

00:46:05.206 --> 00:46:06.427
name now with Tiny Onion.

00:46:07.422 --> 00:46:09.164
like in my eyes,

00:46:09.244 --> 00:46:10.164
I've never thought the dude

00:46:10.184 --> 00:46:11.425
could do any wrong when it

00:46:11.465 --> 00:46:13.005
comes to what he does.

00:46:13.045 --> 00:46:13.186
He,

00:46:13.326 --> 00:46:16.447
and it's unique to him and how he tells

00:46:16.527 --> 00:46:17.188
stories.

00:46:18.088 --> 00:46:21.269
Garth Ennis, very much the same way.

00:46:21.289 --> 00:46:25.090
There's certain writers, like, like I said,

00:46:25.130 --> 00:46:26.331
like they could slap their

00:46:26.351 --> 00:46:29.393
name on anything and be like, yeah,

00:46:29.432 --> 00:46:32.914
Joe Hill, you know, Stephen King, like,

00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:36.224
slap their name on anything, man.

00:46:36.304 --> 00:46:40.331
And Clyde Barker, you know, recipe book.

00:46:40.451 --> 00:46:40.871
Give me.

00:46:41.072 --> 00:46:42.554
Yeah, exactly.

00:46:42.695 --> 00:46:43.237
Exactly.

00:46:43.297 --> 00:46:44.960
I'll take two every time.

00:46:46.101 --> 00:46:46.643
But, um,

00:46:48.128 --> 00:46:48.989
No, I'm sorry.

00:46:49.028 --> 00:46:50.269
We got way off topic there.

00:46:50.869 --> 00:46:51.309
It's fine.

00:46:51.849 --> 00:46:53.391
I'm happy to talk about comics.

00:46:53.411 --> 00:46:55.070
I am too.

00:46:55.090 --> 00:46:57.092
That seems to be how these

00:46:57.211 --> 00:46:58.472
interviews usually go,

00:46:59.152 --> 00:47:00.253
and I don't have any issues

00:47:00.273 --> 00:47:02.012
with that as long as we get

00:47:02.112 --> 00:47:03.914
to your book and

00:47:03.954 --> 00:47:06.175
celebrating you and your new Kickstarter.

00:47:08.034 --> 00:47:08.956
I'm all goods, man.

00:47:10.815 --> 00:47:13.516
But no, I'm really –

00:47:14.690 --> 00:47:15.610
happy that we're going to

00:47:15.690 --> 00:47:18.614
get you know a good series

00:47:19.094 --> 00:47:21.056
you know and this is this

00:47:21.115 --> 00:47:21.876
one is kicking off

00:47:22.697 --> 00:47:24.318
perfectly in my opinion and

00:47:24.378 --> 00:47:26.521
how you're introducing the

00:47:26.561 --> 00:47:28.222
characters and like the

00:47:28.262 --> 00:47:29.342
cliffhanger you left for

00:47:29.423 --> 00:47:32.286
this one fits the story so

00:47:32.326 --> 00:47:33.327
well because you know now

00:47:33.367 --> 00:47:36.869
the main character has this

00:47:36.909 --> 00:47:38.271
huge dilemma he's got a

00:47:38.351 --> 00:47:40.634
face going forward and knowing that

00:47:43.246 --> 00:47:45.907
His end goal of defeating

00:47:45.927 --> 00:47:47.989
the mayor has this huge

00:47:48.110 --> 00:47:49.630
kink in its chain.

00:47:51.413 --> 00:47:53.094
Well, really huge, actually,

00:47:53.114 --> 00:47:55.856
because that bodyguard is a

00:47:56.277 --> 00:47:58.998
fucking giant.

00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:00.039
Pardon my language,

00:48:00.059 --> 00:48:02.302
but that dude was gigantic.

00:48:02.461 --> 00:48:06.465
He looked like that one

00:48:06.505 --> 00:48:07.885
fighter from Street Fighter.

00:48:08.306 --> 00:48:08.666
Blanka?

00:48:10.911 --> 00:48:13.771
no no the big russian dude

00:48:14.032 --> 00:48:16.492
yeah yeah I don't know how

00:48:16.512 --> 00:48:17.552
you pronounce that but yeah

00:48:17.572 --> 00:48:19.813
but zingif zingif however

00:48:19.833 --> 00:48:21.273
you want to say it yeah

00:48:21.313 --> 00:48:22.454
that's that's like as soon

00:48:22.474 --> 00:48:23.293
as I've seen him I'm like

00:48:23.454 --> 00:48:24.875
dude that looks like zingy

00:48:24.914 --> 00:48:26.375
from street fighter I'm

00:48:26.474 --> 00:48:28.096
like I don't know if it was

00:48:28.155 --> 00:48:30.536
intended that way or not no

00:48:30.615 --> 00:48:31.356
it wasn't but that's the

00:48:31.456 --> 00:48:33.157
vibe like the size of him

00:48:33.197 --> 00:48:34.436
because he's just this huge

00:48:34.637 --> 00:48:36.117
massive human being

00:48:37.184 --> 00:48:38.625
And his fighting style was

00:48:38.684 --> 00:48:39.965
very similar to that.

00:48:40.005 --> 00:48:40.925
And I was just like...

00:48:41.646 --> 00:48:42.606
Because he relies on that

00:48:42.806 --> 00:48:47.007
brute power and just

00:48:47.106 --> 00:48:48.748
guessing what the fighter

00:48:48.807 --> 00:48:49.708
he's fighting is going to

00:48:49.748 --> 00:48:51.509
do next and being ahead of it.

00:48:51.528 --> 00:48:54.528
I'm like, dude, this is so fucking good.

00:48:54.648 --> 00:48:56.409
Pardon my language, everybody out there,

00:48:56.469 --> 00:49:01.351
but... The book is just

00:49:01.431 --> 00:49:04.612
like... It's a good blend.

00:49:04.652 --> 00:49:04.911
Like...

00:49:05.853 --> 00:49:07.855
So there's like two really

00:49:07.894 --> 00:49:09.615
good fights in the story.

00:49:10.436 --> 00:49:13.016
So it's not heavily convoluted with that.

00:49:13.077 --> 00:49:15.318
Like you would kind of go

00:49:15.538 --> 00:49:17.358
into it thinking like, oh,

00:49:17.418 --> 00:49:18.478
it's based off of this.

00:49:18.498 --> 00:49:19.960
So you're going to see a lot of fighting.

00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:21.239
And you do.

00:49:23.541 --> 00:49:24.922
But it's like the perfect

00:49:24.981 --> 00:49:26.943
amount of like the first

00:49:26.983 --> 00:49:27.922
fight that's like this.

00:49:28.543 --> 00:49:29.804
He's where he's fighting for money.

00:49:30.822 --> 00:49:31.722
And then in the one where

00:49:31.742 --> 00:49:33.242
he's rescuing these people

00:49:34.023 --> 00:49:35.103
and you get introduced to

00:49:35.123 --> 00:49:35.742
the main character,

00:49:35.822 --> 00:49:37.384
other main characters in the story,

00:49:37.483 --> 00:49:38.983
the antagonists and everything.

00:49:40.164 --> 00:49:44.025
But just it's done so well, you know,

00:49:44.146 --> 00:49:46.885
the blend of it with the action of it.

00:49:48.146 --> 00:49:50.586
And it's not like just a fight, fight,

00:49:50.646 --> 00:49:51.628
fight, fight, fight,

00:49:52.347 --> 00:49:53.887
like in an actual video game.

00:49:53.947 --> 00:49:56.949
It's like you get a story, a fight,

00:49:56.989 --> 00:49:58.949
some story, some story, some fight.

00:49:59.090 --> 00:49:59.809
And then like,

00:50:00.632 --> 00:50:03.114
this great cliffhanger of,

00:50:03.833 --> 00:50:04.574
it's just going to,

00:50:04.795 --> 00:50:07.036
you could tell like your

00:50:07.077 --> 00:50:09.097
main character is so conflicted now,

00:50:10.099 --> 00:50:13.740
even though your antagonist is like, oh,

00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:16.822
we meet again, eh?

00:50:16.862 --> 00:50:19.045
Like he knows why he's there, you know?

00:50:20.525 --> 00:50:22.686
And now he just did what he did.

00:50:22.768 --> 00:50:24.108
So now he,

00:50:24.128 --> 00:50:26.730
the main bad guy knows that our

00:50:26.750 --> 00:50:29.012
main character is now heavily conflicted.

00:50:31.434 --> 00:50:35.914
And I say all that to say this.

00:50:35.994 --> 00:50:38.856
If you back Crimson Bay,

00:50:39.876 --> 00:50:43.597
you are in for a fun read, a great ride,

00:50:44.137 --> 00:50:46.619
with a great storyteller with Bruno,

00:50:47.838 --> 00:50:49.559
and you're not going to be disappointed.

00:50:49.739 --> 00:50:54.681
The colors of the book, the art style,

00:50:54.721 --> 00:50:56.882
which you always find the

00:50:57.422 --> 00:51:00.083
best artist to match what the story is.

00:51:01.246 --> 00:51:04.288
so it's yeah bruno I know

00:51:04.307 --> 00:51:05.188
I'm blowing a lot of hot

00:51:05.268 --> 00:51:06.349
smoke up your rear end

00:51:06.369 --> 00:51:07.528
right now but it's all true

00:51:08.510 --> 00:51:10.070
well thank you so much

00:51:14.293 --> 00:51:16.353
nailed it again dude thank

00:51:16.393 --> 00:51:19.175
you yeah um yeah I mean I I

00:51:20.556 --> 00:51:22.317
I don't take uh praise well

00:51:23.378 --> 00:51:25.579
so I will say that the art

00:51:25.619 --> 00:51:26.940
and the colors are amazing

00:51:27.179 --> 00:51:28.121
because I haven't done

00:51:28.161 --> 00:51:30.461
those so I can say those are amazing

00:51:32.204 --> 00:51:33.331
So yeah, I'll...

00:51:35.239 --> 00:51:36.920
No, I'm telling you,

00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:38.681
shout out to the whole team over there.

00:51:39.101 --> 00:51:40.360
And if your artist or your

00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:41.521
colorist ever wants to come

00:51:41.561 --> 00:51:44.262
on the podcast, pass on the information.

00:51:44.782 --> 00:51:47.664
I just talked to Francisco Nilo,

00:51:48.164 --> 00:51:49.686
who worked on Videlirium,

00:51:50.206 --> 00:51:51.626
the comic book for Videlirium.

00:51:52.686 --> 00:51:53.766
Outstanding comic book

00:51:53.827 --> 00:51:55.108
artist out of Argentina.

00:51:55.728 --> 00:51:56.969
He was on the show to talk

00:51:57.208 --> 00:51:58.570
about his artwork and how I

00:51:58.590 --> 00:51:59.849
got him into comic books.

00:51:59.949 --> 00:52:01.510
I love talking to the artists as well,

00:52:02.110 --> 00:52:03.132
because to me, that kind of...

00:52:04.297 --> 00:52:05.398
it's like this nice,

00:52:05.438 --> 00:52:07.943
like you're getting the

00:52:07.983 --> 00:52:09.264
same perspective from two

00:52:09.304 --> 00:52:10.646
different angles, you know?

00:52:10.686 --> 00:52:12.487
And I think that's really, really cool.

00:52:13.208 --> 00:52:16.612
And now being early announcement,

00:52:17.233 --> 00:52:18.474
but in October,

00:52:20.088 --> 00:52:21.949
Me and Fran, Francisco Nilo,

00:52:22.550 --> 00:52:24.170
will be live talking about

00:52:24.309 --> 00:52:26.871
our favorite horror comic books,

00:52:26.891 --> 00:52:29.090
which is going to be a really dope time.

00:52:29.110 --> 00:52:30.231
Nice.

00:52:31.092 --> 00:52:32.331
Yeah, he was like, dude,

00:52:32.891 --> 00:52:34.353
we got to come back and do this again,

00:52:34.373 --> 00:52:36.713
but just talk about horror comic books.

00:52:36.753 --> 00:52:37.833
I was like, I love it.

00:52:38.034 --> 00:52:38.614
Let's do it.

00:52:38.634 --> 00:52:39.434
When do you want to do it?

00:52:40.153 --> 00:52:42.054
So that's going to be my big

00:52:42.135 --> 00:52:43.434
October show is going to be

00:52:43.474 --> 00:52:44.855
just me and him talking

00:52:44.875 --> 00:52:46.815
about our favorite scary comic books.

00:52:47.574 --> 00:52:48.554
That's really cool, yeah.

00:52:48.655 --> 00:52:48.855
I mean,

00:52:48.894 --> 00:52:50.096
I'm pretty sure there's going to be

00:52:50.115 --> 00:52:50.976
a lot of Tinian there.

00:52:50.996 --> 00:52:54.139
A lot of Tinian, yes, definitely.

00:52:54.699 --> 00:52:56.780
Like Dread the Hall H just came out,

00:52:56.820 --> 00:52:59.402
which is a prequel to The Deviant.

00:52:59.581 --> 00:53:02.023
Mm-hmm.

00:53:02.063 --> 00:53:07.248
Phenomenal.

00:53:07.708 --> 00:53:10.349
So this is much more indie,

00:53:10.389 --> 00:53:14.132
but do you know Afterlight Comics?

00:53:15.547 --> 00:53:17.547
No, I have to look into them.

00:53:17.568 --> 00:53:19.568
Afterlife comics?

00:53:20.208 --> 00:53:22.989
Afterlife comics, so Joseph Oliver.

00:53:23.010 --> 00:53:25.050
Okay, I'll look into them.

00:53:25.150 --> 00:53:29.112
Yeah, because he makes a lot of, do I have,

00:53:30.152 --> 00:53:31.251
I mean, I would need to search.

00:53:31.331 --> 00:53:32.733
I do have a lot of his comics.

00:53:32.753 --> 00:53:34.753
You can shoot it to me later.

00:53:34.773 --> 00:53:38.155
Yeah.

00:53:38.175 --> 00:53:39.735
One of the ones I can find, but yeah,

00:53:39.775 --> 00:53:41.596
like stuff like this.

00:53:42.661 --> 00:53:45.905
He does pretty much exclusively horror.

00:53:46.465 --> 00:53:49.128
That's pretty dope.

00:53:49.527 --> 00:53:51.469
I love the good foil.

00:53:51.510 --> 00:53:52.630
Not overdone foil,

00:53:52.650 --> 00:53:54.512
but just that perfect amount of foil.

00:53:54.833 --> 00:53:56.353
Yeah, just the text.

00:53:56.554 --> 00:53:57.775
Just the title.

00:53:57.875 --> 00:54:00.637
That's really cool.

00:54:00.677 --> 00:54:01.538
Definitely check out his

00:54:01.557 --> 00:54:03.139
stuff because you might like it.

00:54:03.159 --> 00:54:04.521
Shoot it to me in the message later.

00:54:04.561 --> 00:54:05.561
That way I can look him up.

00:54:06.543 --> 00:54:07.844
Is he on Kickstarter or has

00:54:07.864 --> 00:54:10.045
he got his own site where you can buy it?

00:54:10.065 --> 00:54:11.945
He's on Kickstarter like every two weeks.

00:54:13.067 --> 00:54:14.807
He's the most prolific guy I

00:54:14.827 --> 00:54:16.288
know on Kickstarter.

00:54:16.347 --> 00:54:18.009
I'll probably follow him

00:54:18.048 --> 00:54:18.969
then because there's a few

00:54:18.989 --> 00:54:21.550
on there I follow and I'm

00:54:21.570 --> 00:54:23.831
just like... I find them to

00:54:23.871 --> 00:54:25.711
be kind of like... I don't

00:54:25.731 --> 00:54:27.072
want to say pricey, but...

00:54:28.119 --> 00:54:29.521
Like I think I bought maybe

00:54:29.581 --> 00:54:30.701
a book from him once,

00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:32.161
but then it was like, geez,

00:54:32.202 --> 00:54:32.702
why am I getting a

00:54:32.762 --> 00:54:33.902
notification for another

00:54:33.922 --> 00:54:35.284
book or in another book?

00:54:35.923 --> 00:54:36.784
It's like some of them just

00:54:36.824 --> 00:54:40.965
have this huge like vast

00:54:41.106 --> 00:54:42.286
library of stuff they want

00:54:42.306 --> 00:54:43.126
to get published.

00:54:43.688 --> 00:54:44.108
Yeah.

00:54:44.128 --> 00:54:44.568
I'm like, dude,

00:54:44.588 --> 00:54:45.588
you're asking a lot for the

00:54:45.608 --> 00:54:47.309
people who like your work, man.

00:54:48.349 --> 00:54:49.990
Yeah, he's a proper publisher now,

00:54:50.010 --> 00:54:52.851
so he goes directly to –

00:54:53.047 --> 00:54:54.809
publishing company itself to

00:54:54.849 --> 00:54:55.969
stores and stuff like that

00:54:56.010 --> 00:54:58.431
okay so it has like a cycle

00:54:58.492 --> 00:55:01.034
of yeah um I forgot which I

00:55:01.094 --> 00:55:07.179
can't remember if it was

00:55:07.260 --> 00:55:09.541
ben lacy or one of the

00:55:09.661 --> 00:55:10.902
other interviewers I did

00:55:10.922 --> 00:55:12.445
but he's that way he has a

00:55:12.565 --> 00:55:13.925
direct the publisher type

00:55:13.965 --> 00:55:16.487
of thing bobby campbell with um

00:55:18.461 --> 00:55:20.443
What's the name of the book he's doing?

00:55:22.005 --> 00:55:24.306
Tales of the Illuminatis.

00:55:24.987 --> 00:55:26.268
He goes direct to publisher

00:55:26.288 --> 00:55:27.889
with his stuff when he finishes it.

00:55:28.409 --> 00:55:29.110
So the book will get

00:55:29.150 --> 00:55:30.471
produced no matter what.

00:55:31.351 --> 00:55:32.773
It's just then selling it.

00:55:33.713 --> 00:55:34.673
And then he sells it off a

00:55:34.753 --> 00:55:36.835
Kickstarter basically.

00:55:36.856 --> 00:55:37.456
Great book.

00:55:37.496 --> 00:55:38.898
Fun book based off a great

00:55:38.938 --> 00:55:40.998
trilogy of actual books.

00:55:42.059 --> 00:55:43.380
But he's that way.

00:55:43.661 --> 00:55:45.141
He has a publisher that

00:55:45.682 --> 00:55:46.664
produces it for him.

00:55:47.505 --> 00:55:48.186
Which is really cool.

00:55:48.246 --> 00:55:51.307
I wish there were more of those.

00:55:51.347 --> 00:55:52.507
They were more prolific.

00:55:53.168 --> 00:55:54.009
But there's just not a lot

00:55:54.028 --> 00:55:55.068
of publishers anymore.

00:55:55.748 --> 00:55:57.150
Yeah.

00:55:57.190 --> 00:56:04.813
So... And... I hate to see... Like,

00:56:05.432 --> 00:56:06.333
I love print.

00:56:08.454 --> 00:56:09.775
But digital's cool.

00:56:10.135 --> 00:56:10.835
But it's just something

00:56:10.876 --> 00:56:12.295
about the smell of a

00:56:12.436 --> 00:56:14.217
freshly printed comic book.

00:56:15.447 --> 00:56:17.168
just like even a comic book

00:56:17.188 --> 00:56:18.949
that's been in storage for a little bit,

00:56:19.670 --> 00:56:21.050
when you open the seal from

00:56:21.070 --> 00:56:22.032
the bag and board,

00:56:22.351 --> 00:56:24.713
cause I still mine with, with these,

00:56:24.733 --> 00:56:25.713
these are the greatest things ever.

00:56:25.733 --> 00:56:29.376
They're just little resticable dots,

00:56:30.117 --> 00:56:31.639
but they don't stick to your books.

00:56:32.378 --> 00:56:33.579
Like if you get stuck to your book,

00:56:33.639 --> 00:56:34.380
it just comes off.

00:56:34.440 --> 00:56:36.802
It doesn't pill pages and stuff like that.

00:56:37.902 --> 00:56:38.983
But when you pill this off

00:56:39.043 --> 00:56:40.005
and you open it and then

00:56:40.025 --> 00:56:42.126
when that smell of the

00:56:42.146 --> 00:56:44.527
paper and the ink hits you, like,

00:56:46.103 --> 00:56:47.045
that never gets old.

00:56:47.065 --> 00:56:47.144
Yeah.

00:56:47.905 --> 00:56:49.628
Getting high on comic books.

00:56:51.389 --> 00:56:51.849
Yes.

00:56:52.871 --> 00:56:53.893
It just doesn't get old.

00:56:54.032 --> 00:56:58.858
I love that smell, but let's wrap it up,

00:56:59.619 --> 00:57:01.581
Bruno and give us,

00:57:03.023 --> 00:57:05.025
sell us your book real quick.

00:57:06.596 --> 00:57:07.976
mean I can't do it better

00:57:07.998 --> 00:57:09.438
than you already did so

00:57:09.579 --> 00:57:12.081
yeah it's a fun you know

00:57:12.141 --> 00:57:17.487
martial arts um action book

00:57:17.527 --> 00:57:18.867
based on you know your

00:57:18.927 --> 00:57:21.771
favorite animes video games

00:57:21.851 --> 00:57:23.992
and movies growing up so

00:57:25.275 --> 00:57:27.876
if it had martial arts in the nineties,

00:57:28.096 --> 00:57:28.916
it's probably,

00:57:29.077 --> 00:57:30.456
it probably influences this.

00:57:30.916 --> 00:57:31.456
That's it.

00:57:33.257 --> 00:57:34.677
And yeah, there's a lot of fighting,

00:57:34.737 --> 00:57:36.898
but it's also moving story along.

00:57:36.918 --> 00:57:38.117
So it's not just fighting

00:57:39.657 --> 00:57:41.438
and the art is gorgeous.

00:57:43.438 --> 00:57:46.900
And yeah, I mean, it's a, it's a series.

00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:48.719
You're going to get it from the start.

00:57:49.320 --> 00:57:51.119
So you don't have like a backlog of,

00:57:51.139 --> 00:57:51.440
you know,

00:57:51.820 --> 00:57:52.960
ten years of comics that you

00:57:52.981 --> 00:57:53.481
haven't read.

00:57:53.501 --> 00:57:53.541
So.

00:57:53.581 --> 00:57:53.760
Yeah.

00:57:54.969 --> 00:57:56.510
yeah it's you know just

00:57:56.550 --> 00:57:57.170
getting it from the

00:57:57.190 --> 00:58:00.094
beginning and um yeah and

00:58:00.134 --> 00:58:01.155
hopefully it's a fun read

00:58:01.215 --> 00:58:03.217
and um I don't know that

00:58:03.257 --> 00:58:05.518
that's that's it so that

00:58:05.759 --> 00:58:08.101
that yeah that that sums it

00:58:08.141 --> 00:58:10.583
up beautiful beautiful

00:58:10.603 --> 00:58:14.126
colors great story nineties

00:58:14.327 --> 00:58:18.570
action video game drama and action

00:58:20.577 --> 00:58:22.278
It's a great way for Bruno

00:58:22.438 --> 00:58:25.719
to kick off his first series.

00:58:26.480 --> 00:58:29.800
Series, not anthology, not one shot,

00:58:29.900 --> 00:58:31.001
but series.

00:58:31.641 --> 00:58:33.282
And I'm absolutely loving it.

00:58:34.063 --> 00:58:35.943
It has my seal of approval

00:58:36.063 --> 00:58:37.224
as the chairman of the

00:58:37.264 --> 00:58:38.684
United States Department of Nerds.

00:58:39.003 --> 00:58:39.485
Now, Bruno,

00:58:39.525 --> 00:58:42.005
tell everybody where they can

00:58:42.045 --> 00:58:43.425
find you on social media.

00:58:44.501 --> 00:58:44.681
Yeah,

00:58:44.702 --> 00:58:47.027
you'll find me mostly on Blue Sky on

00:58:47.710 --> 00:58:51.217
Bruno Caterino, I think.

00:58:51.478 --> 00:58:53.063
Yes, that's correct.

00:58:53.083 --> 00:58:53.262
Okay.

00:58:56.126 --> 00:58:56.427
Oops.

00:58:56.447 --> 00:58:56.807
Did I?

00:58:57.268 --> 00:58:58.509
Oh, no.

00:58:58.768 --> 00:59:01.152
What did you do?

00:59:03.673 --> 00:59:04.715
I lost the blue sky window.

00:59:05.516 --> 00:59:07.818
No, I lost this window, your window.

00:59:08.137 --> 00:59:09.159
Ah, okay.

00:59:09.239 --> 00:59:09.518
I'm back.

00:59:09.579 --> 00:59:09.860
I'm back.

00:59:09.880 --> 00:59:09.960
Okay.

00:59:10.659 --> 00:59:14.344
It's brunocaterino.bluesky.social.

00:59:14.664 --> 00:59:15.925
But if you just type in Bruno,

00:59:16.425 --> 00:59:17.766
and then when you go to type to see,

00:59:17.786 --> 00:59:18.487
he's probably going to be

00:59:18.507 --> 00:59:19.628
the first person that comes up.

00:59:21.862 --> 00:59:23.543
So yeah, that's that.

00:59:23.623 --> 00:59:24.465
There's Facebook,

00:59:24.525 --> 00:59:27.206
but you can find me by my name as well.

00:59:27.367 --> 00:59:29.909
And yeah, that's pretty much it.

00:59:30.088 --> 00:59:31.170
I'm off pretty much

00:59:31.210 --> 00:59:32.510
everywhere else at the moment.

00:59:33.452 --> 00:59:34.893
We got to get you back on the Instagram,

00:59:34.913 --> 00:59:35.132
buddy.

00:59:36.690 --> 00:59:38.391
it's back on the ground it's

00:59:38.431 --> 00:59:41.193
a lot of work it is trust

00:59:41.213 --> 00:59:43.135
me I know I I I'm gonna

00:59:43.155 --> 00:59:44.157
like buy different

00:59:44.177 --> 00:59:46.298
platforms and yeah it's

00:59:46.318 --> 00:59:48.760
like I have a system of how

00:59:48.860 --> 00:59:50.862
I post on things now and I

00:59:50.882 --> 00:59:52.423
start with hit this one and

00:59:52.443 --> 00:59:53.885
I'll work myself across my

00:59:54.005 --> 00:59:55.487
internet tabs and

00:59:56.086 --> 00:59:57.208
and get stuff posted.

00:59:57.248 --> 00:59:58.268
That's what works for me.

00:59:58.768 --> 01:00:02.030
But yeah, it's absolutely a lot of work.

01:00:02.590 --> 01:00:05.130
But Bruno, as always, man,

01:00:05.311 --> 01:00:07.311
I can't appreciate it enough.

01:00:09.072 --> 01:00:10.413
We being the person you come

01:00:10.432 --> 01:00:12.414
to for your kit starters,

01:00:12.474 --> 01:00:14.494
we always look forward to you coming on.

01:00:14.815 --> 01:00:16.715
Can't wait for the next one

01:00:17.255 --> 01:00:18.597
because you're coming back, right?

01:00:19.588 --> 01:00:20.789
I'm definitely coming back

01:00:20.829 --> 01:00:22.731
if you have me dude you're

01:00:22.831 --> 01:00:24.813
always always welcome back

01:00:25.333 --> 01:00:26.574
so what's coming up next

01:00:26.596 --> 01:00:28.117
for the chairman I will

01:00:28.157 --> 01:00:31.621
tell you uh july's comic

01:00:31.641 --> 01:00:32.842
book wrap up will be coming

01:00:32.981 --> 01:00:35.605
out either tomorrow or

01:00:35.764 --> 01:00:37.407
monday I'm a little late on

01:00:37.467 --> 01:00:39.648
it but that's all good I'm

01:00:39.688 --> 01:00:40.550
always going to be late on

01:00:40.570 --> 01:00:41.871
my new comic book day stuff

01:00:42.914 --> 01:00:43.835
but this will be the first

01:00:44.076 --> 01:00:45.617
one for a whole month.

01:00:46.117 --> 01:00:47.860
So it's going to be a lot,

01:00:48.360 --> 01:00:49.621
but I'm going to do

01:00:49.742 --> 01:00:51.063
everything I can to sum it

01:00:51.103 --> 01:00:51.903
up in a nice way.

01:00:53.626 --> 01:00:54.827
September the

01:00:57.061 --> 01:00:59.184
We will have Ben Lacey on

01:00:59.746 --> 01:01:01.768
with Shark Award issue

01:01:01.829 --> 01:01:03.831
number nine in honor of

01:01:03.891 --> 01:01:05.373
Shark Week that we just had

01:01:05.414 --> 01:01:06.856
last week or two weeks ago.

01:01:07.456 --> 01:01:08.619
He decided to release that

01:01:08.759 --> 01:01:10.460
ninth issue of Shark Award.

01:01:11.222 --> 01:01:13.304
Really fun comic book about a...

01:01:15.137 --> 01:01:17.378
I experimented on Shark that

01:01:17.418 --> 01:01:18.157
Saves the World.

01:01:18.878 --> 01:01:20.518
Really cool, really dope book,

01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:22.099
really fun and just kind of

01:01:22.119 --> 01:01:23.559
like bizarre and out there.

01:01:23.599 --> 01:01:26.860
So very different than what

01:01:26.900 --> 01:01:27.641
I would normally read,

01:01:27.681 --> 01:01:29.842
but it's still it's just a very fun book.

01:01:30.643 --> 01:01:32.742
So and of course, as always,

01:01:32.782 --> 01:01:33.903
you can find the chairman

01:01:34.483 --> 01:01:35.603
on Facebook under the

01:01:35.704 --> 01:01:37.244
United States Department of Nerds.

01:01:38.347 --> 01:01:41.329
on Instagram as USDN Podcast,

01:01:41.608 --> 01:01:44.849
on Blue Sky as USDN Chairman,

01:01:45.469 --> 01:01:48.050
and on YouTube as the USDN Podcast.

01:01:48.110 --> 01:01:49.971
And as always, Bruno,

01:01:50.670 --> 01:01:52.532
thank you very much for

01:01:52.612 --> 01:01:54.172
letting the USDN be a part

01:01:54.211 --> 01:01:55.652
of your Kickstarter kickoff

01:01:55.813 --> 01:01:57.072
campaign as always.

01:01:57.873 --> 01:01:58.833
Can't say how much I

01:01:58.853 --> 01:01:59.954
appreciate that enough

01:01:59.994 --> 01:02:01.496
because it really is always

01:02:01.516 --> 01:02:03.478
an honor to have you on and

01:02:03.498 --> 01:02:04.760
be your go-to source to

01:02:04.820 --> 01:02:05.822
kick off these things.

01:02:06.061 --> 01:02:07.143
I really appreciate you

01:02:07.163 --> 01:02:08.284
putting that trust in us.

01:02:09.144 --> 01:02:10.887
And with that, ladies and gentlemen,

01:02:12.268 --> 01:02:13.150
Crimson Bay,

01:02:13.911 --> 01:02:18.876
Bruto Caterino is USDN approved.