Don't Say Content

Here’s a bonus episode where our host, Margaret Kelsey, joined Exit Five, hosted by Dave Gerhardt. Layoffs, budget cuts, slower sales cycles, and a lack of urgency to buy your product right now. That's become normal in B2B SaaS over the last two quarters. But what does it mean for marketer? Do nothing? Just play defense? Yeah right. Marketers are being asked to do more with less, and if you're one of those marketers this is a session you don't want to miss. Dave is joined by Margaret Kelsey (Founder of TatCo, Marketing Advisor), Jason Widup (VP Marketing, Metadata), and Shauntle Barley (Director of Marketing, Demandwell) to talk about the state of B2B marketing in Q2 2023 and helpful ideas for driving growth in a down economy. Listen to Exit Five: https://www.exitfive.com/podcastFollow Dave: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davegerhardt/Connect with Devin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/devinbramhall/Connect with Margaret: https://www.linkedin.com/in/margaret-kelsey-104abba/Subscribe to the Don’t Say Content newsletter: https://dontsaycontent.substack.com/Created in partnership with Share Your Genius: https://www.shareyourgenius.com/

Show Notes

Here’s a bonus episode where our host, Margaret Kelsey, joined Exit Five, hosted by Dave Gerhardt. 


Layoffs, budget cuts, slower sales cycles, and a lack of urgency to buy your product right now. That's become normal in B2B SaaS over the last two quarters. But what does it mean for marketer? Do nothing? Just play defense? Yeah right. Marketers are being asked to do more with less, and if you're one of those marketers this is a session you don't want to miss. Dave is joined by Margaret Kelsey (Founder of TatCo, Marketing Advisor), Jason Widup (VP Marketing, Metadata), and Shauntle Barley (Director of Marketing, Demandwell) to talk about the state of B2B marketing in Q2 2023 and helpful ideas for driving growth in a down economy. 


Listen to Exit Five: https://www.exitfive.com/podcast

Follow Dave: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davegerhardt/


Connect with Devin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/devinbramhall/

Connect with Margaret: https://www.linkedin.com/in/margaret-kelsey-104abba/

Subscribe to the Don’t Say Content newsletter: https://dontsaycontent.substack.com/


Created in partnership with Share Your Genius: https://www.shareyourgenius.com/

What is Don't Say Content?

Marketing and business strategy podcast for executives and marketing leaders who want to improve outcomes from marketing.

Marketing veterans Devin Bramhall (Animalz, Help Scout) & Margaret Kelsey (InVision, OpenView) use their combined 20+ years of experience to increase the business impact of marketing by creating shared understanding of its purpose and outcomes among marketing leaders, founders/CEOs & others in the C-suite.


  • Join us for in-depth conversations about B2B marketing behind the scenes:

  • How to run effective marketing teams

  • Hiring best-in-class marketing teams

  • Marketing strategy: Product-led Growth (PLG), Community marketing, Influencer marketing, micro influencers

  • Trends in B2B marketing: AI, TikTok, YouTube, LinkedIn, social platforms, email, and more

Created in partnership with Share Your Genius

An award-winning B2B podcast production company: https://www.shareyourgenius.com/