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What is going on guys and welcome back to
the process of becoming my name is Dino.

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This is Josh and we have a very, special
episode today.

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Josh, why do we have a special episode
today?

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Guys, we've been talking for a long time
about creating a podcast.

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We finally started a podcast and we kicked
back and forth around to the idea of doing

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some guests.

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And today we actually have not only our
first guest, but also our first and second

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guest, two guests on today's show.

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It's going to be pretty amazing.

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Two people that are very near and dear to
my heart.

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and that have been with me on their
journey of mindset for a very long time.

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So we have none other than Jenna Garitas
and Liz Hochsteller with us today.

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They actually have their own podcast as
well, which we will fully allow them to

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plug because it is an amazing podcast, but
we're going to pick their brains today and

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give you a little bit of the inside scoop
on where they've come through this entire

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process of the things that we teach you
guys all the time.

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So Jenna and Liz, welcome.

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Thank you.

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Hello.

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It's if we're excited because we're
actually together right now.

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We live across the country from each
other.

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I'm in Indiana and she's in Colorado.

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And last week I just kind of like last
minute booked a trip out to see her and

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we're like, here we go.

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So it's pretty cool.

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Yeah.

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So we're here.

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It is well, it's 7 a .m.

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our time now.

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So it's not bad.

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It's not too bad.

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But we got up early for you

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the accomplishment that you just did over
the weekend with Liz out there.

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Which is pretty badass by the way.

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Yeah.

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So I live in Flatland, Indiana.

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So I told Liz, Hey, we should hike a
mountain.

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I was like, we should hike a mountain when
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She's like, okay.

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So we just looked one up yesterday.

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We started at what six in the morning.

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We started like six.

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Um, we hiked to the top of gray's peak,
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I don't know.

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Um, but it was, it

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It was hard, I'm not gonna lie.

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But it was really, really cool to not only
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that, but do it with your best friend.

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Like that was pretty special.

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It was cool.

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It was very cool.

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And I've lived out here for 16 years.

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And this was only the second time that
I've hiked a 14er.

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And so I needed that push.

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But the first one I did, I was obviously
16 years younger.

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And I was like, this is gonna be a breeze.

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Like I remember it being so much easier.

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And so we went into it with

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the idea that it was going to be just like
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Well, we were laughing on the way back
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were so ignorant to the fact that of like
how hard it was actually going to be

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because like the first probably 75 % of
it, we're like, oh, this isn't bad at all.

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Like the views are beautiful.

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I mean, I'm out of breath a little bit,
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And then the last like 25 % of the way was
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So yeah, very challenging.

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But like you said, it was very special to
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together and very rewarding at the top.

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was gorgeous.

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How long was it as hard going back down?

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Cause I know walking downhill sucked.

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downhill was way easier.

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We got up in about three, three and a half
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So it was way easier to come back down.

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My knees don't love going up, going up and
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knees.

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Yeah.

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I have some pretty good sized blisters on
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Which is what I heard about the whole way.

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She said it's fine.

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is like no worries.

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How many snack breaks did you guys have to
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my gosh.

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It's like I literally planned this hike
around the food.

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I'm like, okay, first break I'm going to
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Second break, we did like three.

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She's like, I'll make you a sandwich.

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I'm like, Liz, I'm going to need two
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I need two.

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And I one sandwich on the way to the
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Yeah, I was like nervous.

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I was nervous I wasn't gonna have enough
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survived.

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We made it.

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We did great.

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So.

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That's I'm proud of you guys.

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That's a big deal.

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Yeah, that's huge.

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And like when it comes like physical
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something I aspire to do.

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I'm like, I don't like everybody hears all
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I'm like, no, I'm good.

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I've had bad experiences at altitude.

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So I'm pretty good.

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I'm set.

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I was worried.

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Honestly, I was worried about the altitude
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whenever I come out here, but I did really
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But that last 25%, like I was saying, I
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We had to take quite a few breaks going up
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I struggled too, and I'm out here.

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I live out here.

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Yeah.

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So it's not just you.

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It wasn't.

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I was not being a baby.

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It's really bizarre to me like how that
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particles and like I study all that kind
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oxygen the higher you go.

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It's really crazy.

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And the other thing I saw you guys had
like varying outfits on through your trip.

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So it gets way colder.

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So I noticed.

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hot, then the wind would blow, it would
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cold.

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So I'd just be like wearing gloves and
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It was cold at the top.

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40s.

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Maybe like in the 30s at the top.

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Yeah, it was really cold at the top.

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Snow, mountain goats.

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Mountain goats.

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it's cool to see you guys together and
it's cool to see you guys doing hard

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things together.

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apologize to make you wake up so early on
a Saturday to do the show.

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Been through there already, but.

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gonna put it on a recording that you owe
me a coffee because I woke my ass up super

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early because

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now.

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is official.

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It is official.

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It's all good.

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I'll send you one right now.

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Starbucks delivery.

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Get on.

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Well, it's in the middle of the country so
they don't even actually have it.

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I've tried to do a Dasher stuff before.

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Hey, I'm good over here.

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I know I'm a class in the middle of
nowhere.

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She's like, I don't want to run all the
way home.

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I'm like, Liz, you live seven minutes from
fucking everything.

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So like, you have no idea how good you
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Try to live a day in my life.

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It's so funny.

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But guys, I love it.

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One of the guys listening out there, like
one of the big reasons why I wanted to

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have these two on the show.

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I've been planning it for a while and
really the truth is is Dino and I are just

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working through getting foundation laid
but also figuring out all the

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technological things to be able to do this
and make sure that it hits the way we want

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it to.

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But I've personally known Jenna Liz, what
is it now three years give or take?

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I don't even know anymore.

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about three years that I've been working
with them hand in hand as a mentor for

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them as they develop their businesses and
brands.

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And you guys already know one of my big
things is mindset.

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So that's, I've been pouring that a lot
into them and I won't take sole credit for

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it, but it's been, it's been cool to be
able to pass it to them and then watch

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them flourish and do the things that they
do.

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They've changed hundreds and hundreds of
lives together, you know, separately, but

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also thousands of lives together through
fitness and health and these things.

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But their, their brand has now become
mindset and teaching other people how

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to think because it's such a foundational
thing for success in life in any regard.

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And I'm very, proud of seeing them become
who they have become and continue on that

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process of becoming.

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So today we're going to dive into their
stories a little bit.

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like, want you, I want it to be as real
and raw as you guys want it to be.

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You know, this journey that we're all on,
I think you're going to find a lot of

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relatability with these two because they
are both moms.

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both live similar lives, but also
different lives.

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They struggle with certain things that are
in common and other things that are not.

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And their journeys have been certainly

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not standard by any stretch.

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we're gonna dive into it and Dino is the
great question asker.

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So he's gonna be pegging you guys with
some good questions and we'll just kind of

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rock and roll.

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So from here on out, it's gonna be mostly
you guys talking, you good with that?

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Yeah, let's go.

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I got excited because you already know all
the background, but Dino doesn't really so

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like, yeah, ask all the questions.

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pumped.

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Gonna be good.

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So, first thing that I want to kind of
dive into is the identity piece, right?

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So we've been talking a lot about identity
and like, just to kind of give you a

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little background is like this.

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Most people that live their life, they
wrap their identity around all this shit

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that keeps them complacent.

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They keep, they keep some where they're
at.

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and they absorb that and they, they start
thinking that, this is just who I am.

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I'm never going to change that limited
mindset.

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Do you guys talk about it your podcast a
lot?

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so start at the beginning of like your
journey, like where your identity was and

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really what you like foundational things
that you did to switch that identity.

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Or, and if there's a specific moment when
you knew that it shifted, kind of talk

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about that a little bit as well.

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Yeah, you can go first.

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have, mean, similar, but like you said,

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going to be solved of all kinds of
questions if you haven't picked that up,

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you're going to have to think a little

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but very different stories like where we
started you go ahead.

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Yeah.

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So I was like super into fitness for
years.

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I coached CrossFit for 10 plus years.

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I've got three kids and after my third
baby.

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He was a COVID baby.

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So I found myself like, I wasn't coaching
anymore.

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had gained like, through that pregnancy, I
gained like 5560 pounds.

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I don't even know.

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I wasn't coaching.

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I wasn't working anymore.

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I used to work for an oral surgeon.

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My whole life was just completely turned
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After I had him, I fell really, really
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I was this new stay at home mom when I
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time.

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I was just really, really struggling.

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It's funny because ironically, that super
low point in my life was when I met Josh.

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Josh comes in and he's like,

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I know.

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I'm at this low spot where I have this
very, very fixed mindset of like, this is

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just how life is supposed to be.

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Like I'm not meant to be one of those
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like I really truly had it in my head that
like certain people were just born to be

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successful and they got dealt certain
hands, like certain cards in life.

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And I just didn't get that.

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Like I truly believed it.

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And then here comes this dude and he's
like, why?

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Like, why do you believe that?

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You know, and he was probably the first
person to ever challenge my thinking on

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And I was kind of like, wait, hold on this
per like somebody actually believes that I

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can do more than what I'm currently doing.

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You know?

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And so like, honestly, just that little
spark of belief opened my mind to be like,

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wait, what if it is possible?

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Like, what if I truly can become a better
version of myself?

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Like what, you know?

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And so little by little, I started from
there and just like that little teeny tiny

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spark of belief was just enough to keep me
going to continue to be

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okay, I can do this.

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Okay, I'm starting to do better things.

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I'm starting to feel better about myself.

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Like I'm starting to grow like bigger
things are happening and like slowly

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throughout that process.

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I it's not definitely not overnight.

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It's like slowly but surely you just start
to grow into this person because you start

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to have a little bit more self belief
every day as you continue to.

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I don't know, again, believe that you can
become a better version of yourself.

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So I don't, I don't

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And now you get to pour that into and now
I get to pour that into other people.

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So it's like, mean, it's been a long three
years that's been battling through.

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mean, I was battling through postpartum
depression that first year pretty heavy.

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a lot, I mean, it wasn't perfect by any
means.

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Like I had a lot of still self doubt that
I worked through, but it was literally one

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person pouring a tiny bit of belief into
me for me to challenge my thinking, to

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open my mind, to be like, wait, wait, hold

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You think it's possible for me to do
better than this life that I am living?

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know, like I could actually be successful.

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and so that, mean, I can honestly remember
that turning point in my life of just how

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important belief is in pouring that into
other people.

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think, mean, that's like for me, that's
health and fitness has changed my life so

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much.

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And that's why, like you were saying,
like, now you get to pour that into other

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people and,

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That's why I love what I get to do.

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I'll back like backing up.

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I started as an elementary school teacher,
so I graduated college, became an

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elementary school teacher.

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That just kind of came easy to me, but
I've always loved being active.

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I've always loved fitness.

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I was a yoga instructor, started to get
really passionate with fitness through

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that and helping people, you know, just be
more active.

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So that's never been an issue.

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But

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I think for me, it has always been that
like that self -limiting belief.

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So teaching just came easy.

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Had my two babies and then decided to stay
home with them full time.

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And one year postpartum got back into
teaching classes, fitness classes, and

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then started my journey.

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Like I would say that's when I finally
started my health and fitness journey and

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like started.

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lifting weights and like just doing harder
things.

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And like, that's when it started.

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I was like, okay, wow, I can actually do
things like this.

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Had people asking me what I was doing.

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I was able to start helping them, you
know, with their journey.

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I've always had this like, like teaching
just came easy to me.

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So it was never, you know, I was never
doing things that actually were hard or

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challenging.

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But then I think it honestly, it was
starting to get into lifting weights and

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doing hard things and challenging myself
and realizing that like, wow, okay, I can

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do, I can do hard shit.

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And that helped me grow as a person
mentally.

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And then like I said, people were asking
what I was doing.

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I was able to start helping them.

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And that was just the coolest thing ever.

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So being able to pour what I've learned on
my journey into other people has just been

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incredible.

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But yeah, I mean, same with Jenna.

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Josh has helped a ton with that mindset
because that's always been

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Okay, I'm, you know, at first I'm a stay
at home mom.

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This is just, this is, this is just what
I'm going to do.

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This is just what I meant to do is just be
mom.

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And then through fitness and you know,
prioritizing my health that like lit a

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spark.

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And that was like something else that I
had that was so much more than just, you

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know, I'm just mom prior to starting my
health and fitness journey was not in a

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great place with, you know, mentally, but
also like physically drinking a lot of

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alcohol,

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feeding myself crap all the time.

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And you you just, you set that standard
for yourself and it's like, okay, this is

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just where I'm at.

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But then have slowly grown into the person
that I am today through literally through

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just health and fitness.

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And it's been, it's been a great journey.

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So that's where I'm at

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Dude, that's incredible.

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The one thing that I kind of just like
listening to both you guys talk about

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this.

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Did you guys both kind of have this idea
that you're always meant for something

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more that there was something more, but it
almost just took someone to kind of

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validate that for you guys in a way.

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And then it became Josh, right?

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Like, he almost kind of gave you that
like, hey, yeah, you can go do this.

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You're like, wait, what the fuck?

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Someone just confirmed the thing that I've
been thinking about this whole fucking

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time.

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You guys think that played a big role in

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absolutely.

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Like I always felt, I've always felt like
something was missing.

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Like I've always felt like out of place,
like something's not right.

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Like I don't feel like I'm in alignment
with what I'm supposed to be doing.

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There's just always been like an off vibe,
I guess.

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But I never knew what it was.

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I never had a freaking clue what it was.

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I knew that I loved helping people.

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Like I said, I used to coach CrossFit.

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That brought me so much joy.

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And so when like I got out of doing that
just because of like the whole COVID

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thing, and then I ended up, obviously I
was a mom of three young kids.

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Like I just couldn't get to coaching
classes anymore.

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So I was feeling really down, which is how
I ended up joining, and getting involved

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with first form.

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Cause I'm like, man, if I could help
people online, this would be cool.

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But even at the time I was like, this
would be a cool side job.

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Like maybe I wouldn't ever have to go back
to work, whatever.

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And then Josh comes in and he's like,
dude, do you have any idea of what you're

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actually capable of?

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you know, and he's like, start pulling
this belief into me and he totally changes

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my perspective on like, holy crap.

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Like I could actually help people change
their lives.

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Like that is probably the greatest thing
that you could ever accomplish in this

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lifetime is helping somebody else change
their life and live a better life.

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so once I, poured that belief and I
started kind of going down that path and

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actually believing that for myself and
seeing that, okay, doing

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fulfills me.

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This fills that void that I've been
feeling for years and years and years.

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It's like I'd finally found it and it just
took somebody kind of pouring belief into

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me and maybe I was like a lost puppy dog
really at first.

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And it's like, I didn't know which way to
go.

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didn't know anything.

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So it's almost like somebody helping me
kind of shift which direction I needed to

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head.

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It's like, okay, let's go this way now.

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I'm like, okay, we found it.

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And so then once I found it, locked it in,
now I just

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grown.

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The amount that I've grown personally over
the last three years is astronomical.

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I think about who I am three years ago, or
who I was three years ago.

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If you'd asked me what I was doing three
years ago today, it would not be on a

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podcast talking about mindset.

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That's for damn sure.

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Or climbing a mountain.

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Or climbing a mountain for that Or I'm out
on a plane and randomly coming to visit

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your friend.

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We were at the pool yesterday and we were
looking at each other we're like, this is

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so cool that

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Like we're literally like we're working,
but we're able to just help people from

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anywhere be able to take time and go do
like climb a mountain, come back down and

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get back to helping people, you know, from
our computers.

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Yeah.

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But like, I in a nutshell, to answer your
question, yes, I absolutely always

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believed like there was something more for
me.

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I just didn't know what it was.

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I didn't know how to find it and I didn't
know how to get it.

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You know what I mean?

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I think for me, I used to, I used to
always look

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other people's lives or like, you know,
where they were at in their fitness or

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their life, their success in life.

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And I would be like, that's just, that's
not meant for me.

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You know, I'd look at them and like, I
could never do that.

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And that is something that Josh has helped
me realize is like, they're no different

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than you, you know, like those people have
done it, that's proof that you can do it.

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And so that is something that I try to
help my people understand, because that's

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been huge, a huge shift for me is

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that person has done it, there's no reason
why you cannot be in that place or you

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cannot get to that point in your life or
in your fitness journey that you want to

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be.

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And so that has been a huge shift.

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like, Jenna, it's always, I've loved, I
mean, I was a teacher, I've loved helping

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people, I've loved teaching people things.

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And so that's kind of what I brought into
my coaching is just being able to, I mean,

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obviously help and teach different things
when it comes to their health and fitness

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journeys.

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but it's always been a passion and fitness
has always been a passion.

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So to be able to bring those two things
together, I mean, like I said, was like

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this thing that was missing where I just
thought, just mom.

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And there's nothing wrong with being mom,
but it was like, I'm just mom, this is all

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I have.

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And so to be able to have this where I can
help people change their lives, like

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health and fitness has changed mine, it's
just amazing.

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Yes, there was always something.

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I knew there was always something.

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And to be able to have found it is, I
don't know, it's just very surreal.

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So that belief through action that you
guys found turned into, I mean, honestly,

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we'll call it what it is.

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00:19:31,812 --> 00:19:36,085
Leading by example, other people saw that
like, holy crap, this person has like an

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energy I need to be attached to and learn
from.

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So you guys poured into other people,
which created your identity and led to

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more belief, right?

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So my question is, and I know this answer,
but.

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Do you just have an astronomical amount of
belief all the time now that you've poured

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belief in others and that you're kicking
butt and taking names in life?

436
00:19:55,197 --> 00:20:00,371
And because the answer is no, what do you
do to reset yourself back on that belief

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train?

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00:20:01,883 --> 00:20:04,845
Like give us some practical stuff like,
when like shit hits fan, cause you guys

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00:20:04,845 --> 00:20:05,215
are human.

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00:20:05,215 --> 00:20:08,728
Like you guys still struggle all the time,
but like when you're struggling through

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those things, like what do you do to
recenter yourself and get back to like,

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all right, this is who I am.

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This is my identity, not that old person,
because we all go back to that.

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I mean, for me, it's pushing myself like
we did yesterday.

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It's pushing myself to get uncomfortable
doing hard stuff because then, like

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yesterday, like halfway up the mountain,
I'm sitting here like, I can't do it.

447
00:20:28,973 --> 00:20:32,895
Like I was literally holding myself back
and if Jenna was not there, I probably

448
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would have turned back around.

449
00:20:33,915 --> 00:20:38,397
You know, it was like, I need to do hard
things and consistently get uncomfortable

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and remind myself that, okay, you can do
this.

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You can do hard shit.

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Cause that is a hundred percent what has
helped build belief in me.

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in myself.

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mean, self -development books, really
finding good ones and committing to that,

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reading and pouring into myself every
single day.

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Podcasts, listening to different podcasts.

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I think for me, I mean, because I am a
freaking roller coaster when it comes to

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No.

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00:21:04,729 --> 00:21:05,319
Not me.

460
00:21:05,319 --> 00:21:06,510
Not you.

461
00:21:07,788 --> 00:21:09,869
Never would've heard you say that.

462
00:21:09,869 --> 00:21:13,511
I'm just gonna take a guess that you kind
of are a roach.

463
00:21:14,291 --> 00:21:16,002
You see that gray patch over there?

464
00:21:16,002 --> 00:21:17,853
That gray patch is from Jenna.

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00:21:17,863 --> 00:21:18,444
okay, got it.

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00:21:18,444 --> 00:21:18,884
Because of that.

467
00:21:18,884 --> 00:21:21,255
There's a lot of great patches, Jenna,
just so you know.

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00:21:21,512 --> 00:21:22,213
here's the deal.

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00:21:22,213 --> 00:21:24,395
I am probably one of the most emotional
people on the planet.

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However, I have done a very good job at
not acting on my emotions all the time.

471
00:21:30,081 --> 00:21:33,784
But I do well at making decisions from
like a sound mind versus emotions.

472
00:21:33,784 --> 00:21:36,557
Like, it's just a whole journey that I've
been on.

473
00:21:36,557 --> 00:21:41,291
But anyway, I find that like when I start
getting in my head really bad with my

474
00:21:41,291 --> 00:21:44,704
emotions, because they creep up and they
like,

475
00:21:44,704 --> 00:21:45,815
attack you from behind.

476
00:21:45,815 --> 00:21:47,326
I'll be on the top of my game.

477
00:21:47,326 --> 00:21:50,779
And then all of a sudden, I find myself at
the very bottom again overnight.

478
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:57,764
I find that it helps for me personally to
take some time to really detach from

479
00:21:57,865 --> 00:22:00,786
what's going on and almost like take a
step back.

480
00:22:00,786 --> 00:22:04,671
Like I have to take a step back and look
at everything in an overview.

481
00:22:04,671 --> 00:22:07,483
Like, you know, and I have to just think
about the big picture.

482
00:22:07,483 --> 00:22:10,145
And I'm like, okay, I have all this self
doubt that's creeping in.

483
00:22:10,145 --> 00:22:11,846
But what have I accomplished?

484
00:22:11,846 --> 00:22:13,417
What have I done to

485
00:22:13,912 --> 00:22:19,244
for me to think that I'm not good enough
to do this or that it that's making me

486
00:22:19,244 --> 00:22:23,685
doubt that I'm not capable of doing more
of helping people or accomplishing all

487
00:22:23,685 --> 00:22:24,185
these things.

488
00:22:24,185 --> 00:22:27,547
Like I have to think about how far I've
actually come and all the things that I

489
00:22:27,547 --> 00:22:31,998
have accomplished and to kind of shut up
that voice in my head and be like, you

490
00:22:31,998 --> 00:22:35,799
know, because that's, it's just your ego
trying to like, trying to tear you down.

491
00:22:35,799 --> 00:22:38,190
So I think if you can literally take a
step

492
00:22:38,438 --> 00:22:42,990
and detach from your ego and truly see
that that's what's trying to pull you back

493
00:22:42,990 --> 00:22:47,053
versus who you truly are and recognize
those like two voices.

494
00:22:47,053 --> 00:22:52,786
And then I even had a conversation after
you guys's, which episode was that?

495
00:22:52,786 --> 00:22:55,327
The one about the subconscious mind.

496
00:22:55,327 --> 00:22:59,529
I talked to Josh about that quite a bit
because I'm super, super into that.

497
00:22:59,529 --> 00:23:04,442
And I think that like, you know, the ego
and the subconscious mind and you're like

498
00:23:04,442 --> 00:23:06,333
your true self, it's all very separate.

499
00:23:06,333 --> 00:23:08,150
And I think once you can kind

500
00:23:08,150 --> 00:23:13,452
identify who your true self is from your
actual ego and recognize where that

501
00:23:13,452 --> 00:23:16,672
subconscious mind tends to point you.

502
00:23:18,253 --> 00:23:21,794
Once you're able to identify that, you can
detach from it you can make better

503
00:23:21,794 --> 00:23:22,555
decisions.

504
00:23:22,555 --> 00:23:26,226
So that's, and you can get yourself kind
of back on track.

505
00:23:26,226 --> 00:23:29,137
So that's what's really helped me is being
able to just kind of step back and

506
00:23:29,137 --> 00:23:33,975
identify things that pull me back, if that
kind of makes

507
00:23:33,975 --> 00:23:34,576
that.

508
00:23:34,576 --> 00:23:38,458
I because I think a lot of people whenever
you're dealing with like emotions,

509
00:23:38,458 --> 00:23:43,402
especially people hit this thing where
it's like, No, I shouldn't have these.

510
00:23:43,402 --> 00:23:44,613
I gotta stop this.

511
00:23:44,613 --> 00:23:47,725
I gotta like no bad, bad, bad negative
negative thoughts.

512
00:23:47,725 --> 00:23:51,537
And I think that could be very much more
harmful than it can be beneficial, right?

513
00:23:51,537 --> 00:23:54,509
Because Jenna, some of you said is you
took a step back.

514
00:23:54,549 --> 00:23:59,413
And I think that's a big piece because
sometimes that subconscious not sometimes

515
00:23:59,413 --> 00:24:02,554
most of the time, it knows a lot more
things that we assume.

516
00:24:02,695 --> 00:24:03,431
And

517
00:24:03,431 --> 00:24:07,134
a lot of those emotions that we feel there
could be a reason for it, right?

518
00:24:07,134 --> 00:24:12,167
But here's where humans I think mess up
often is we, we interpret emotions how we

519
00:24:12,167 --> 00:24:14,198
want to interpret them, right?

520
00:24:14,198 --> 00:24:16,980
But when you're able to take a step back,
you can kind of look at it from like a

521
00:24:16,980 --> 00:24:18,481
third person point of view.

522
00:24:18,481 --> 00:24:22,424
And it comes with a better decision making
process, right?

523
00:24:22,424 --> 00:24:25,426
Where a lot of people when you kind of
kick it out, you don't really listen to

524
00:24:25,426 --> 00:24:25,546
it.

525
00:24:25,546 --> 00:24:29,318
And in my mind, I think you kind of have
to right now I'm not saying sit in the

526
00:24:29,318 --> 00:24:31,150
negativity or anything of that nature.

527
00:24:31,150 --> 00:24:33,531
But when you hear it, it's like, hey, why
is it there?

528
00:24:33,587 --> 00:24:35,598
Because hey, could be the alignment piece,
right?

529
00:24:35,598 --> 00:24:40,070
Both of you guys have that feeling of
like, something is off, right?

530
00:24:40,070 --> 00:24:42,091
And if you didn't listen to that emotion,
what happens?

531
00:24:42,091 --> 00:24:44,332
You're like, nope, it's, this is just
life.

532
00:24:44,332 --> 00:24:45,912
This is what I gotta do.

533
00:24:45,912 --> 00:24:47,723
Both of you would not be here today.

534
00:24:47,723 --> 00:24:49,273
Like that is just the truth.

535
00:24:49,454 --> 00:24:52,755
So like when I hear those emotions and a
lot of the people that are listening to

536
00:24:52,755 --> 00:24:56,167
this, I think this is so important because
that feeling that you have where it's

537
00:24:56,167 --> 00:24:58,918
like, I meant for something more, listen
to that, right?

538
00:24:58,918 --> 00:25:02,175
Like take a step out, listen to it,
understand where it's coming from.

539
00:25:02,175 --> 00:25:05,075
But understand that it's trying to tell
you something bigger and it's not trying

540
00:25:05,075 --> 00:25:05,895
to harm you.

541
00:25:05,895 --> 00:25:08,615
And I think that's where a lot of people
lose sight of things where both of you

542
00:25:08,615 --> 00:25:12,515
guys have found the balance of that I
would say and now balance doesn't mean

543
00:25:12,515 --> 00:25:17,335
5050 right but it's you guys are able to
detach from that and look at it from

544
00:25:17,335 --> 00:25:20,235
essentially a third person point of view
without removing demotion.

545
00:25:20,235 --> 00:25:21,494
I hope that makes sense.

546
00:25:21,494 --> 00:25:27,340
Yeah, and I think that as you're saying
that,

547
00:25:27,340 --> 00:25:29,190
No, I like that.

548
00:25:29,331 --> 00:25:30,131
I like that.

549
00:25:30,131 --> 00:25:30,751
Go ahead.

550
00:25:30,751 --> 00:25:33,962
No, because when you're saying like, when
I had that feeling of like, I'm truly

551
00:25:33,962 --> 00:25:40,304
meant for more, whatever that at the time,
which I didn't realize back then, that was

552
00:25:40,304 --> 00:25:41,014
my true self.

553
00:25:41,014 --> 00:25:44,095
That was my spirit saying like, no, you
are meant for more.

554
00:25:44,095 --> 00:25:44,935
But here we are.

555
00:25:44,935 --> 00:25:48,716
Like my ego is getting in the way of
making me stay comfortable, making me stay

556
00:25:48,716 --> 00:25:52,238
complacent, making me say like, no, this
is just the hand that I'm dealt in life.

557
00:25:52,238 --> 00:25:53,996
This is what you're supposed to be doing.

558
00:25:53,996 --> 00:25:55,307
but you always have that pull.

559
00:25:55,307 --> 00:25:58,268
Like that is your true self trying to
speak to you.

560
00:25:58,268 --> 00:26:02,721
So when you can literally step back and
differentiate that and be like, okay, why

561
00:26:02,721 --> 00:26:03,641
am I having that feeling?

562
00:26:03,641 --> 00:26:04,582
Where's that coming from?

563
00:26:04,582 --> 00:26:04,902
Whatever.

564
00:26:04,902 --> 00:26:08,934
And then when you have emotions in the
mix, you are able to identify, okay, I'm

565
00:26:08,934 --> 00:26:10,194
feeling resentment.

566
00:26:10,194 --> 00:26:10,995
I'm feeling jealousy.

567
00:26:10,995 --> 00:26:12,436
I'm feeling all these other things.

568
00:26:12,436 --> 00:26:13,997
You're feeling them for a reason.

569
00:26:13,997 --> 00:26:15,678
So what's the reason you're feeling them?

570
00:26:15,678 --> 00:26:20,370
You can trace that back to identify what's
actually, what actually needs to be fixed,

571
00:26:20,370 --> 00:26:23,212
what needs to be addressed versus just

572
00:26:23,212 --> 00:26:26,494
rolling along with the emotions and acting
on them.

573
00:26:26,494 --> 00:26:29,375
Because I literally read this this morning
in the book that I'm reading.

574
00:26:29,375 --> 00:26:32,267
says, emotions, they are flowing.

575
00:26:32,267 --> 00:26:33,878
They come and they go.

576
00:26:33,878 --> 00:26:35,909
They never stay consistent day to day.

577
00:26:35,909 --> 00:26:38,861
That's why they're called emotions,
because they stay in motion.

578
00:26:38,861 --> 00:26:40,771
They constantly flow through you.

579
00:26:40,992 --> 00:26:46,055
Yes, I read that and I was like, I'm the
most emotional person ever.

580
00:26:46,055 --> 00:26:52,398
So like this just like, so it's just a
roller coaster.

581
00:26:52,620 --> 00:26:56,213
Like I said, I've been able to acknowledge
that.

582
00:26:56,213 --> 00:26:57,794
I know that I'm an emotional person.

583
00:26:57,794 --> 00:27:03,027
I know that I feel things much deeper than
other people do, but I'm able to recognize

584
00:27:03,027 --> 00:27:07,470
it and I'm able to like not act on that
because I know it's an emotion and I know

585
00:27:07,470 --> 00:27:09,762
that there is a reason for me feeling the
emotion.

586
00:27:09,762 --> 00:27:10,843
Then I have to trace it back.

587
00:27:10,843 --> 00:27:12,724
Why am I feeling the emotion?

588
00:27:13,505 --> 00:27:17,547
You know, it's that's been something
that's been huge that I've developed over

589
00:27:17,547 --> 00:27:21,510
the last probably year, six months to a
year.

590
00:27:21,758 --> 00:27:26,071
that I've been really diving hard into
because I have recognized that I am just a

591
00:27:26,071 --> 00:27:27,542
highly sensitive person.

592
00:27:27,542 --> 00:27:31,244
And so it's been something I've had to
really work on, but be able to detach that

593
00:27:31,244 --> 00:27:37,268
emotion from what I truly want, listen to
my true self and make decisions based off

594
00:27:37,268 --> 00:27:39,149
of that, not my emotions.

595
00:27:39,869 --> 00:27:40,500
I like that.

596
00:27:40,500 --> 00:27:40,840
Why?

597
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:41,600
I like that.

598
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:41,921
Okay.

599
00:27:41,921 --> 00:27:43,452
Why am I feeling this way?

600
00:27:43,452 --> 00:27:45,113
Why am I having this emotion?

601
00:27:45,113 --> 00:27:47,454
Because I think that is

602
00:27:47,534 --> 00:27:49,895
Okay, why am I feeling anxious?

603
00:27:49,895 --> 00:27:54,847
It's probably because to be honest with
myself, it's because I'm not taking action

604
00:27:54,847 --> 00:27:56,738
on the thing that I know I need to be
doing, right?

605
00:27:56,738 --> 00:27:59,939
I'm sitting here, but figuring out what is
it that I need to be doing?

606
00:28:00,099 --> 00:28:02,480
Why am I feeling jealousy?

607
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,721
it's because that person is doing the
thing that I know I should be doing or

608
00:28:05,721 --> 00:28:08,383
that person actually went and took action.

609
00:28:08,383 --> 00:28:14,245
And I'm looking at them thinking, you
know, poor me, they have this life that I

610
00:28:14,245 --> 00:28:15,065
wish I could have.

611
00:28:15,065 --> 00:28:16,986
Well, they went and took action.

612
00:28:17,410 --> 00:28:20,573
take a step back, like you said, why am I
feeling this way?

613
00:28:20,573 --> 00:28:24,856
It's a tough pill to swallow, but it's
because we're not doing the thing or for

614
00:28:24,856 --> 00:28:27,568
me, it's because I'm not doing the thing
that I know I should be doing.

615
00:28:27,568 --> 00:28:28,619
mean, that's the thing.

616
00:28:28,619 --> 00:28:30,980
Nothing exists outside of yourself.

617
00:28:31,161 --> 00:28:36,194
So when you can literally take full
responsibility, full ownership of

618
00:28:36,194 --> 00:28:39,747
literally everything, every emotion that
you feel has to do with yourself, not

619
00:28:39,747 --> 00:28:43,810
other people and not other situations,
not, you

620
00:28:43,918 --> 00:28:47,138
other people casting their limiting
beliefs on you, all of those things, all

621
00:28:47,138 --> 00:28:51,198
has to do with yourself and you are in 100
% control of all of it.

622
00:28:51,198 --> 00:28:56,758
I think that was also a huge turning point
in my growth was realizing that because I

623
00:28:56,758 --> 00:28:59,698
used to play the victim hard, like hard.

624
00:28:59,698 --> 00:29:03,218
I mean, up until about three years ago,
once I realized what I was actually doing,

625
00:29:03,218 --> 00:29:06,378
because I didn't realize I was doing it
until somebody pointed it out, probably

626
00:29:06,378 --> 00:29:07,498
you, Josh.

627
00:29:07,578 --> 00:29:09,858
And I was like, wait, hold on.

628
00:29:09,858 --> 00:29:13,138
And then I recognized that I was playing
the victim all the

629
00:29:13,300 --> 00:29:15,130
and that nothing exists outside of me.

630
00:29:15,130 --> 00:29:18,892
Nothing can, I am in control of everything
in my life.

631
00:29:18,892 --> 00:29:22,182
How I, and if I'm not in control of an
actual situation, I'm in control of how I

632
00:29:22,182 --> 00:29:26,644
react to situations and how I interpret
situations and how they affect me

633
00:29:26,644 --> 00:29:31,775
emotionally and how they affect me, you
know, in my mindset on things, on my

634
00:29:31,775 --> 00:29:33,075
perspective, all of it.

635
00:29:33,075 --> 00:29:35,456
And I'm in control of that.

636
00:29:35,696 --> 00:29:40,507
So that was a huge turning point for me
was accepting that and realizing it.

637
00:29:40,507 --> 00:29:43,394
And then once you accept it and realize
it, then you can,

638
00:29:43,394 --> 00:29:47,033
take control and start taking action
towards the life that you actually want to

639
00:29:47,699 --> 00:29:50,332
I want to kick in here because I know
there's probably people listening there.

640
00:29:50,332 --> 00:29:53,385
Like they don't quite understand the depth
of what you just said there.

641
00:29:53,385 --> 00:29:56,648
And just to kind of tie it to the things
that Dino and I've discussed is number one

642
00:29:56,648 --> 00:29:57,790
is being intentional.

643
00:29:57,790 --> 00:30:01,964
So you have to stop down, you have to
detach and understand like, okay, I do get

644
00:30:01,964 --> 00:30:04,086
to decide how I feel, what I think, all
these things.

645
00:30:04,086 --> 00:30:04,996
Okay.

646
00:30:04,997 --> 00:30:09,572
The, the idea that we talk about all the
time is you get to reattach whatever

647
00:30:09,572 --> 00:30:11,271
meaning you want to something.

648
00:30:11,271 --> 00:30:13,354
or attach a new meaning to something,
right?

649
00:30:13,354 --> 00:30:18,282
So somebody listening to the podcast right
now might be thinking, well, you know, I

650
00:30:18,282 --> 00:30:20,245
am how I am because of the way I was
raised.

651
00:30:20,245 --> 00:30:20,585
Cool.

652
00:30:20,585 --> 00:30:24,781
Well, you get to attach whatever meaning
you want to how that has affected you, not

653
00:30:24,781 --> 00:30:27,395
only then, but also moving forward from
here on

654
00:30:27,517 --> 00:30:30,688
So it's like, because you were raised the
way that you were, does not mean that you

655
00:30:30,688 --> 00:30:32,129
have to continue being that person.

656
00:30:32,129 --> 00:30:36,060
It's an intentional decision and
understanding to your point, Jenna, is

657
00:30:36,060 --> 00:30:38,311
that there are two places thoughts come
from.

658
00:30:38,311 --> 00:30:41,552
It's either your thought or it's another
thought that somebody gave you that you've

659
00:30:41,552 --> 00:30:43,953
interpreted the wrong way are now running
with.

660
00:30:43,953 --> 00:30:47,264
That's what Jenna means when like there is
no such thing as anything outside

661
00:30:47,264 --> 00:30:47,684
yourself.

662
00:30:47,684 --> 00:30:49,835
Like you are in control of all of this.

663
00:30:50,104 --> 00:30:54,500
It's understanding that okay, just because
my dad told me that I wasn't gonna achieve

664
00:30:54,500 --> 00:30:58,115
this or that or the other thing cool Well,
he did he said those things I get to

665
00:30:58,115 --> 00:31:01,580
interpret what that means for me and a lot
of people internalize that and play the

666
00:31:01,580 --> 00:31:05,235
victim card to your point and will use
that to keep themselves complacent or from

667
00:31:05,235 --> 00:31:06,727
ever achieving something

668
00:31:06,727 --> 00:31:09,089
So it's like, if you're listening to this
right now and you're thinking those

669
00:31:09,089 --> 00:31:12,502
thoughts, it's like you're sitting here
listening to two people, four people,

670
00:31:12,502 --> 00:31:16,165
quite honestly, that have all been in that
boat, but have just decided to reattach a

671
00:31:16,165 --> 00:31:19,407
different meaning to it and take control
and ownership of no, like that doesn't

672
00:31:19,407 --> 00:31:21,619
affect who I am now or moving forward.

673
00:31:21,619 --> 00:31:25,112
I can attach whatever meaning I want to
those things, the emotions, all that

674
00:31:25,112 --> 00:31:25,312
stuff.

675
00:31:25,312 --> 00:31:26,833
I'm in complete control of

676
00:31:26,833 --> 00:31:30,018
Some days you're in more control, some
days you're not in as much control, but

677
00:31:30,018 --> 00:31:33,613
it's about re -centering and detaching to
the point of the question I asked you guys

678
00:31:33,613 --> 00:31:36,477
earlier is like, what do you do and what
do you actually, how do you re -center

679
00:31:36,477 --> 00:31:38,111
those things moving forward?

680
00:31:38,111 --> 00:31:40,011
And everybody has their own way of doing
it.

681
00:31:40,011 --> 00:31:41,911
But it's understanding, number one, that
you're in control of it.

682
00:31:41,911 --> 00:31:43,391
No one else is in control of it.

683
00:31:43,391 --> 00:31:46,651
You might get a thought from somebody else
because they've told you something about

684
00:31:46,651 --> 00:31:49,431
you, but you get to interpret what that
thought means to you and how it affects

685
00:31:49,431 --> 00:31:50,271
you.

686
00:31:50,271 --> 00:31:52,091
Point blank, like 100 % ownership.

687
00:31:52,091 --> 00:31:53,291
There is no excuses for it.

688
00:31:53,291 --> 00:31:54,251
It's like, cool.

689
00:31:54,251 --> 00:31:58,111
And if you're hearing this for the first
time, you're hearing it and take control,

690
00:31:58,111 --> 00:32:01,871
take ownership and understand that five
books that you've read last, this is funny

691
00:32:01,871 --> 00:32:04,351
part about what you guys said is like, I
have reading self development books.

692
00:32:04,351 --> 00:32:07,571
That's how I recenter or I get around my
friends that push me to be a little bit

693
00:32:07,571 --> 00:32:08,225
better.

694
00:32:08,225 --> 00:32:11,039
Your life is going to always be the sum of
the last five books you read and the

695
00:32:11,039 --> 00:32:13,393
people you spend the most time with,
period.

696
00:32:13,393 --> 00:32:13,723
Right?

697
00:32:13,723 --> 00:32:14,514
Because guess what?

698
00:32:14,514 --> 00:32:18,320
If other people do influence your emotion
and your thought, why would you not be

699
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,050
around people that influence that in a
positive way?

700
00:32:22,050 --> 00:32:22,610
For sure.

701
00:32:22,610 --> 00:32:26,192
think too, what's really cool is like,
once you finally realize how much you

702
00:32:26,192 --> 00:32:30,092
truly are in control of, there is this
moment, I'm not going to lie, there was a

703
00:32:30,092 --> 00:32:35,436
moment of panic and I'm like, holy shit, I
am in control of my life and the outcome.

704
00:32:35,436 --> 00:32:37,467
I don't, I don't get to blame anybody
else.

705
00:32:37,467 --> 00:32:40,028
So once you make that realization, it's
like, you can't go back.

706
00:32:40,028 --> 00:32:43,599
So you realize that everything is in your
hands.

707
00:32:43,599 --> 00:32:49,062
But at the same time, once I got over that
fear of it, I was like, holy shit, this is

708
00:32:49,062 --> 00:32:50,242
powerful.

709
00:32:50,242 --> 00:32:55,355
How freaking powerful that you have
absolute control over your entire life and

710
00:32:55,355 --> 00:32:57,086
how you interpret everything.

711
00:32:57,086 --> 00:33:01,678
Like the power that you have in your hands
and the power that I wish people

712
00:33:01,678 --> 00:33:06,761
understood that they actually had is
astronomical.

713
00:33:06,761 --> 00:33:10,643
I, that's what I want more than anything
is to help people actually realize how

714
00:33:10,643 --> 00:33:13,315
much power they actually have over their
lives.

715
00:33:13,315 --> 00:33:18,337
Because again, like you can, I have truly
believed that I, cause I used to play that

716
00:33:18,337 --> 00:33:19,638
victim card, like, I,

717
00:33:20,078 --> 00:33:21,358
was raised X, Y, and Z.

718
00:33:21,358 --> 00:33:23,918
All this stuff happened to me, whatever,
like poor me.

719
00:33:23,918 --> 00:33:25,878
I'm not going to do great things.

720
00:33:25,878 --> 00:33:30,878
Now I'm like, okay, all of those things,
everything that I have ever been through

721
00:33:30,878 --> 00:33:37,498
has been placed in my life for me to learn
through so that I can continue to grow and

722
00:33:37,498 --> 00:33:41,478
turn around and help somebody else in that
situation, 110%.

723
00:33:41,478 --> 00:33:47,118
So any kind of like storm that I'm going
through in life, any tough time, whatever,

724
00:33:47,118 --> 00:33:48,854
I'm like, bring it

725
00:33:48,854 --> 00:33:51,955
I mean, a little bit because I'm like,
kind of sucks.

726
00:33:51,955 --> 00:33:56,116
But at the same time, I'm like, I know why
I'm going through it.

727
00:33:56,116 --> 00:34:00,147
So it helps me get through it with a
better mindset, with a more positive

728
00:34:00,147 --> 00:34:06,359
mindset and with more of a urgency to
learn through it so that I can help

729
00:34:06,359 --> 00:34:08,130
somebody else because I know that there's
meaning to it.

730
00:34:08,130 --> 00:34:09,970
And I know that there's a reason why I'm
going through it.

731
00:34:09,970 --> 00:34:14,792
I know you guys talk about energy a lot
and that goes with it too.

732
00:34:14,792 --> 00:34:16,302
It's like if you're playing

733
00:34:17,154 --> 00:34:22,166
victim card and you're saying, poor me,
and you're focusing on harping on all of

734
00:34:22,166 --> 00:34:26,448
that negative energy or the negativity
that's going on in your life, you're going

735
00:34:26,448 --> 00:34:27,468
to continue to draw that.

736
00:34:27,468 --> 00:34:30,019
You're going to continue to draw those
people into your life.

737
00:34:30,019 --> 00:34:35,272
And that's been a big shift for me too, is
like just constantly focusing on the

738
00:34:35,272 --> 00:34:39,763
positive things that are around me and
surrounding myself with positive people.

739
00:34:39,763 --> 00:34:46,146
And that's been huge, is it's continued to
bring more positivity into my life.

740
00:34:46,328 --> 00:34:50,419
for anyone listening to this that like,
like I said earlier, it's a tough pill to

741
00:34:50,419 --> 00:34:56,321
swallow when you stop and realize like,
okay, I have control, but also like you

742
00:34:56,321 --> 00:35:00,742
are in the situation that you're in
because of the energy that you continue to

743
00:35:00,742 --> 00:35:01,303
put out.

744
00:35:01,303 --> 00:35:07,054
So shift that, know, start focusing on all
the good that you have in your life.

745
00:35:07,054 --> 00:35:11,566
And if you don't have good people in your
life, start surrounding yourself with more

746
00:35:11,566 --> 00:35:12,666
positive.

747
00:35:12,696 --> 00:35:13,626
Well, that's the thing though.

748
00:35:13,626 --> 00:35:17,338
Once you start shifting your energy to
being more positive and start raising your

749
00:35:17,338 --> 00:35:23,681
standards and you raise your frequency to
match other people in your life, which is

750
00:35:23,681 --> 00:35:25,992
how this happened right here.

751
00:35:25,992 --> 00:35:29,473
Liz and I literally have only known each
other for like a year and a half.

752
00:35:29,473 --> 00:35:33,605
And we literally laugh because I'm like, I
feel like I've known you my whole life.

753
00:35:33,605 --> 00:35:37,437
You would never know that it's not even
been two years since we literally met on a

754
00:35:37,437 --> 00:35:39,498
Zoom call and we were like,

755
00:35:40,332 --> 00:35:43,783
You've got kids, you're into fitness, we
should be friends.

756
00:35:43,783 --> 00:35:44,484
Okay.

757
00:35:44,484 --> 00:35:45,454
And then we're best friends.

758
00:35:45,454 --> 00:35:47,045
Like that's literally how it happened.

759
00:35:47,045 --> 00:35:52,807
So, I mean, but we wouldn't have like
manifested each other into our lives had

760
00:35:52,807 --> 00:35:56,909
we not been on that same energy frequency
of sure living better, being on that same

761
00:35:56,909 --> 00:35:57,969
vibration.

762
00:35:57,969 --> 00:36:01,831
And so I, get, mean, especially since
we've been out here this weekend, like

763
00:36:01,831 --> 00:36:04,912
everything we've been posting on social
media, I can't tell you the amount of

764
00:36:04,912 --> 00:36:07,093
messages people just say, I love your
friendship.

765
00:36:07,093 --> 00:36:08,173
I wish I had that.

766
00:36:08,173 --> 00:36:10,074
I wish I had that kind of friendship.

767
00:36:10,114 --> 00:36:15,978
I'm like, I don't take a second of it for
granted, but at the same time, feel like

768
00:36:16,258 --> 00:36:17,479
I've earned it.

769
00:36:17,699 --> 00:36:18,420
Yeah.

770
00:36:18,420 --> 00:36:23,503
By growing into this version of myself,
I've earned God placing this amazing human

771
00:36:23,503 --> 00:36:25,484
being in my life.

772
00:36:25,785 --> 00:36:28,007
And now we just build each other up
constantly.

773
00:36:28,007 --> 00:36:32,810
We're very, very similar, but we're also
kind of opposite.

774
00:36:32,810 --> 00:36:34,871
We challenge each other in great ways.

775
00:36:34,972 --> 00:36:36,532
I don't know how to explain it.

776
00:36:37,314 --> 00:36:39,745
One of you likes to talk a lot and the
other one doesn't.

777
00:36:39,830 --> 00:36:43,017
Yeah

778
00:36:43,017 --> 00:36:44,842
What else did you guys expect from John?

779
00:36:44,842 --> 00:36:46,448
and she has a lot of emotion though.

780
00:36:46,448 --> 00:36:47,101
Yeah, true.

781
00:36:47,101 --> 00:36:48,073
It's

782
00:36:48,265 --> 00:36:49,916
That's a good balance though.

783
00:36:50,778 --> 00:36:53,140
There's a question I want to ask you guys.

784
00:36:53,341 --> 00:36:54,281
Huh?

785
00:36:55,042 --> 00:36:55,598
my God.

786
00:36:55,598 --> 00:36:55,879
hairs.

787
00:36:55,879 --> 00:36:56,651
Josh not be okay.

788
00:36:56,651 --> 00:36:58,304
Even more gray hairs.

789
00:36:58,383 --> 00:37:01,474
my God, I think you might have to quit at
that point.

790
00:37:01,474 --> 00:37:05,026
I don't know.

791
00:37:05,026 --> 00:37:08,648
There's a question I want to ask you guys
because, know, obviously with your guys'

792
00:37:08,648 --> 00:37:12,549
friendship and just how it all happened
and how it all started, there's so much

793
00:37:12,549 --> 00:37:14,230
beauty to it, right?

794
00:37:14,690 --> 00:37:18,192
But before you guys got to that beauty, I
assume there's also people in your life

795
00:37:18,192 --> 00:37:21,533
that you kind of let go or separated or
things fell off.

796
00:37:21,533 --> 00:37:25,755
And I want to touch on that point because
when you raise your frequency,

797
00:37:25,755 --> 00:37:28,677
it's not just all smooth sailing from
there.

798
00:37:28,758 --> 00:37:31,520
Or at least it doesn't seem that way at
first.

799
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,462
But there's there's reasons things happen,
right.

800
00:37:34,643 --> 00:37:38,667
And I kind of want to ask you guys, like,
whenever you were shifting your frequency

801
00:37:38,667 --> 00:37:43,591
and energy, the people in your life that
weren't feeding you, was that starting to

802
00:37:43,591 --> 00:37:44,312
kind of separate?

803
00:37:44,312 --> 00:37:45,493
Did you kind of see more of that?

804
00:37:45,493 --> 00:37:48,455
Did you see people just kind of step away
from your life?

805
00:37:48,676 --> 00:37:50,727
That you're like, Damn, I thought we were
really good friends.

806
00:37:50,727 --> 00:37:52,859
But it's like, holy shit, what happened?

807
00:37:52,875 --> 00:37:56,980
I hope that kind of makes sense, you know,
but like with you guys going towards your,

808
00:37:56,980 --> 00:38:01,384
know, raising your own frequency, having
that positive mindset, did you see to lose

809
00:38:01,384 --> 00:38:05,609
certain things that maybe at the time
seemed like, damn, but then obviously now

810
00:38:05,609 --> 00:38:07,731
it's like, holy shit, this all happened
for a

811
00:38:08,642 --> 00:38:11,954
Yeah, there's, this is actually something
that my, I feel like my clients struggle a

812
00:38:11,954 --> 00:38:15,747
lot with because once they start working
to become a better version of themselves,

813
00:38:15,747 --> 00:38:19,209
they struggle because they're like, you I
don't, I don't connect with the people

814
00:38:19,209 --> 00:38:20,260
that I used to anymore.

815
00:38:20,260 --> 00:38:24,103
And I will say that like, you start to
create the separation and you can almost

816
00:38:24,103 --> 00:38:28,726
feel like you're doing something wrong
because there is this very awkward stage

817
00:38:28,726 --> 00:38:33,319
in the middle where you're separating from
people that you used to connect with, but

818
00:38:33,319 --> 00:38:35,851
now you're not vibrationally energy wise.

819
00:38:35,851 --> 00:38:37,486
You're not with them anymore.

820
00:38:37,486 --> 00:38:41,688
So now you're in the middle in this kind
of like very, very lonely spot where you

821
00:38:41,688 --> 00:38:43,079
almost feel like you don't have any
friends.

822
00:38:43,079 --> 00:38:46,661
You don't feel like you have anybody that
connects with you and or understands you

823
00:38:46,661 --> 00:38:50,493
or like knows why you are wanting to
become better.

824
00:38:50,493 --> 00:38:51,974
Like they don't get it.

825
00:38:52,054 --> 00:38:55,096
So there definitely was a period of
loneliness.

826
00:38:55,096 --> 00:38:58,518
And then, and I tell my people that too,
I'm like, that's normal.

827
00:38:58,518 --> 00:39:00,819
And it doesn't mean that you're doing
anything wrong.

828
00:39:00,899 --> 00:39:05,682
But as you continue to grow, you will
attract more people into your life who

829
00:39:05,682 --> 00:39:06,682
match

830
00:39:06,818 --> 00:39:11,340
who get you, who want to be, or who you
want to be around, who make you better,

831
00:39:11,340 --> 00:39:12,020
all of the things.

832
00:39:12,020 --> 00:39:13,861
So like, yes, absolutely.

833
00:39:13,861 --> 00:39:18,082
There is that point where again, you
second guess yourself because you're like,

834
00:39:18,783 --> 00:39:23,395
they're living this way and they're making
me feel like I shouldn't be living this

835
00:39:23,395 --> 00:39:23,515
way.

836
00:39:23,515 --> 00:39:25,266
They making me feel like I'm an outsider.

837
00:39:25,266 --> 00:39:28,647
They making me feel like I'm acting like
I'm too good to be around them.

838
00:39:28,647 --> 00:39:33,669
And so again, it makes you question your
self belief and like you doubt yourself.

839
00:39:33,669 --> 00:39:35,130
You doubt the journey that you're on.

840
00:39:35,130 --> 00:39:36,130
always.

841
00:39:36,918 --> 00:39:42,114
I mean, I could give examples of like, and
it's just like your health and fitness

842
00:39:42,114 --> 00:39:42,385
journey.

843
00:39:42,385 --> 00:39:43,659
There's going to be so many.

844
00:39:43,659 --> 00:39:44,320
Call them out.

845
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:45,531
Say their names.

846
00:39:45,620 --> 00:39:46,831
I know.

847
00:39:46,831 --> 00:39:51,455
mean, like, yeah, I think we did on a
podcast.

848
00:39:52,076 --> 00:39:55,269
My husband's like, dude, are you not
worried that these people are going to

849
00:39:55,269 --> 00:39:58,641
listen to this and hear everything you
just shared?

850
00:39:59,502 --> 00:40:02,175
No, but it's like a It's going to ebb and
flow.

851
00:40:02,175 --> 00:40:04,687
You're going to be in different
relationships and you're going to lose

852
00:40:04,687 --> 00:40:06,268
some and gain some.

853
00:40:06,268 --> 00:40:08,120
And and that's what it was.

854
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:12,634
It was like I was in a point where I
thought I was in a great, a great place.

855
00:40:13,024 --> 00:40:16,697
you know, mindset wise, and really, I
wasn't because I was attracting so many

856
00:40:16,697 --> 00:40:17,238
negative people.

857
00:40:17,238 --> 00:40:20,740
And this was literally two years ago,
before I met Jenna.

858
00:40:21,001 --> 00:40:23,653
And I just, I mean, I just made that
decision.

859
00:40:23,653 --> 00:40:26,946
I'm like, I can't, I cannot surround
myself with these people anymore.

860
00:40:26,946 --> 00:40:31,390
And literally, a few months later, I saw
her, I saw Jenna on a call, she was with a

861
00:40:31,390 --> 00:40:32,871
call with Josh.

862
00:40:32,952 --> 00:40:37,446
And I was like, I need that energy in my
life.

863
00:40:37,446 --> 00:40:40,192
And like it did, I reached out to Josh, I
was

864
00:40:40,192 --> 00:40:41,434
send her this message.

865
00:40:41,434 --> 00:40:42,355
like, tell Jenna.

866
00:40:42,355 --> 00:40:46,220
Well, we have to address this because Josh
gets salty when we don't include him in

867
00:40:46,220 --> 00:40:47,951
the birth of our friendship.

868
00:40:48,588 --> 00:40:51,947
Just because you're on my podcast does not
mean you need to give me credit because

869
00:40:51,947 --> 00:40:53,921
you haven't until this point.

870
00:40:54,493 --> 00:40:57,874
to give you for it all because Liz didn't
have my number.

871
00:40:57,874 --> 00:40:58,874
I wasn't on Zoom call.

872
00:40:58,874 --> 00:41:03,205
I was at HQ with Josh and she was like,
hey, tell Jenna that that was a great

873
00:41:03,205 --> 00:41:04,306
call, blah, blah.

874
00:41:04,306 --> 00:41:06,086
And he showed me the video, gave me her
number.

875
00:41:06,086 --> 00:41:11,078
So I reached out and then it was like, I
mean, from there, we were texting like we

876
00:41:11,078 --> 00:41:12,428
were best friends immediately.

877
00:41:12,428 --> 00:41:13,509
It was crazy.

878
00:41:13,509 --> 00:41:14,849
It was crazy.

879
00:41:15,469 --> 00:41:16,070
Yeah.

880
00:41:16,070 --> 00:41:16,950
So

881
00:41:17,654 --> 00:41:20,706
It's just kind of funny, but like that's
the thing is you start to feel that

882
00:41:20,706 --> 00:41:21,197
loneliness.

883
00:41:21,197 --> 00:41:24,089
You start to feel like you're doing
something wrong, but I can promise you

884
00:41:24,089 --> 00:41:31,093
that like it's, it's what you gain from it
at the end is so much sweeter than

885
00:41:31,093 --> 00:41:33,024
anything that you're leaving behind.

886
00:41:33,505 --> 00:41:34,617
It's, you just have to

887
00:41:34,617 --> 00:41:37,178
is an element of faith there, right?

888
00:41:37,178 --> 00:41:40,989
Because you guys, I'm just gonna call it
what it is.

889
00:41:40,989 --> 00:41:45,461
You guys have a blessing of being in an
ecosystem where there are good and better

890
00:41:45,461 --> 00:41:47,421
people to be interacting with, right?

891
00:41:47,421 --> 00:41:50,192
You're kind of forced into that just by
nature of your relationship with First

892
00:41:50,192 --> 00:41:52,533
Form and how we operate.

893
00:41:52,533 --> 00:41:55,954
But there's people out there that, like to
Jenna's point, like that lonely part of

894
00:41:55,954 --> 00:42:00,415
the journey, it's like, know, and you feel
you're being pulled in this direction.

895
00:42:00,435 --> 00:42:04,338
But every single day you're interacting
with people or you're around people.

896
00:42:04,361 --> 00:42:07,923
But at the same time, you don't really
even know what's possible in terms of how

897
00:42:07,923 --> 00:42:09,073
good things can be.

898
00:42:09,073 --> 00:42:12,545
And something that we oftentimes say here
at First Form is like, you have to be

899
00:42:12,545 --> 00:42:15,576
really comfortable with leaving good in
order to achieve great.

900
00:42:15,576 --> 00:42:18,288
And the problem is, is that most people,
they just look at their life and they're

901
00:42:18,288 --> 00:42:19,088
like, it's good enough.

902
00:42:19,088 --> 00:42:20,158
Like I'm good.

903
00:42:20,158 --> 00:42:25,121
Like I'm the most positive person in my
workplace or, you know, I do, I don't

904
00:42:25,121 --> 00:42:26,701
engage in those cooler conversations.

905
00:42:26,701 --> 00:42:27,422
So I'm doing good.

906
00:42:27,422 --> 00:42:28,082
No, you're not.

907
00:42:28,082 --> 00:42:31,664
Like you have the ability to be so much
more.

908
00:42:31,664 --> 00:42:34,537
And the cool thing is to the point that
these ladies are making,

909
00:42:34,537 --> 00:42:38,318
is when you do that, like you are going to
be attracted to the people.

910
00:42:38,318 --> 00:42:40,959
And yeah, there is that lonely period
where you're like, I'm not really sure if

911
00:42:40,959 --> 00:42:42,260
what I'm doing is right.

912
00:42:42,260 --> 00:42:45,661
Have that faith that when you get to where
you're going and continue progressing

913
00:42:45,661 --> 00:42:48,042
yourself, the right people will present
themselves.

914
00:42:48,042 --> 00:42:52,033
So there was a, there was actually a
reason and you guys hit like the reason I

915
00:42:52,033 --> 00:42:55,375
asked that question, you guys answered
exactly in my mind what I thought you

916
00:42:55,375 --> 00:42:55,865
would answer.

917
00:42:55,865 --> 00:42:58,806
Like both of you, different answers,
exactly what I needed.

918
00:42:58,806 --> 00:43:02,387
And the reason I say this is because first
off

919
00:43:02,655 --> 00:43:06,935
When you're going through that period, you
are going to feel like you are doing

920
00:43:06,935 --> 00:43:07,895
something wrong.

921
00:43:07,895 --> 00:43:09,155
Like you are right?

922
00:43:09,155 --> 00:43:13,735
Because the people that have been with you
10, 15, 20 years, whatever now are the

923
00:43:13,735 --> 00:43:15,195
people that you're like, dude, I'm
different.

924
00:43:15,195 --> 00:43:17,035
Like they're not hanging out with me.

925
00:43:17,035 --> 00:43:18,955
They're it's, it's something's off.

926
00:43:18,955 --> 00:43:19,875
Is it me?

927
00:43:19,875 --> 00:43:21,095
Am I doing things wrong?

928
00:43:21,095 --> 00:43:21,975
Am I crazy?

929
00:43:21,975 --> 00:43:25,215
Like all every, all my other people are in
this bubble.

930
00:43:25,215 --> 00:43:25,975
They're hanging out.

931
00:43:25,975 --> 00:43:27,375
They're going like it's me.

932
00:43:27,375 --> 00:43:28,055
Right.

933
00:43:28,055 --> 00:43:30,315
And I think you have to break that piece.

934
00:43:30,315 --> 00:43:32,615
And it's so hard because it's almost

935
00:43:32,925 --> 00:43:36,838
the part of you the memories all this
other shit it's you got to cut that out.

936
00:43:36,838 --> 00:43:39,559
So it almost feels like you're losing part
of yourself.

937
00:43:39,720 --> 00:43:44,483
But it's like I, I don't know if I've ever
used this example on the podcast before

938
00:43:44,483 --> 00:43:48,756
but and a lot of people might not know
this but for a seed to sprout into a

939
00:43:48,756 --> 00:43:51,988
plant, the seed has to break its shell
completely.

940
00:43:51,988 --> 00:43:52,258
Right.

941
00:43:52,258 --> 00:43:53,699
So it's got to reinvent itself.

942
00:43:53,699 --> 00:43:55,070
It's got to break.

943
00:43:55,070 --> 00:43:58,382
And I think that's a huge piece to this
journey is when you're cutting those

944
00:43:58,382 --> 00:44:02,105
people or when you're moving into a
different direction in life, you're going

945
00:44:02,105 --> 00:44:02,505
to lose

946
00:44:02,505 --> 00:44:04,777
part of yourself, so to say, or it's gonna
feel that way.

947
00:44:04,777 --> 00:44:08,249
But in reality, all you're doing is
opening up space for more, right?

948
00:44:08,249 --> 00:44:13,002
And that's a big, big piece of that, you
know, into what Liz said is how a great

949
00:44:13,002 --> 00:44:15,754
way to reflect on this is, hey, look at
where you're at, right?

950
00:44:15,754 --> 00:44:18,596
You think you're positive, you think
you're doing this stuff, but then look at

951
00:44:18,596 --> 00:44:20,027
the people you're around, right?

952
00:44:20,027 --> 00:44:24,670
Because like Liz says, she was like, wait,
I thought I was but then I still got the

953
00:44:24,670 --> 00:44:26,011
same people like what the fuck?

954
00:44:26,011 --> 00:44:27,632
I don't know if that's true.

955
00:44:27,632 --> 00:44:30,914
And there's those two points right there
where it's one, you got to reflect on

956
00:44:30,914 --> 00:44:31,315
that, right?

957
00:44:31,315 --> 00:44:32,035
Like,

958
00:44:32,261 --> 00:44:34,522
Or am I actually as positive as I think I
am?

959
00:44:34,522 --> 00:44:37,064
Hey, am I moving in the direction that I
think I am?

960
00:44:37,064 --> 00:44:40,856
Because if not, those people in my life
that I'm around more the time, are they

961
00:44:40,856 --> 00:44:41,326
positive?

962
00:44:41,326 --> 00:44:42,697
No, okay, that's me, right?

963
00:44:42,697 --> 00:44:43,957
I got to switch.

964
00:44:43,998 --> 00:44:47,660
Then also knowing when you make that
switch, you got to cut off half of your

965
00:44:47,660 --> 00:44:52,062
memory, your, you know, your fun times,
your friends, and it's, it's, it's, it's a

966
00:44:52,062 --> 00:44:53,193
tough journey, right?

967
00:44:53,193 --> 00:44:56,044
So, again, I didn't even talk to you guys
about this.

968
00:44:56,044 --> 00:45:00,667
But those two things, I think are so big
of pieces in

969
00:45:00,979 --> 00:45:04,452
process of becoming something different or
becoming the version of yourself that you

970
00:45:04,452 --> 00:45:06,584
want to be is both of those.

971
00:45:07,085 --> 00:45:10,068
So yeah, I just want to it just I just
think it's cool.

972
00:45:10,068 --> 00:45:12,710
I had goosebumps as you guys were talking
because I was like, dude, that's crazy

973
00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:17,104
that it aligned exactly to what I thought
you guys would say, because I think that's

974
00:45:17,104 --> 00:45:19,015
such a common thing that happens.

975
00:45:19,076 --> 00:45:22,477
And you know, another thing I want to
Yeah, go ahead, Jenna.

976
00:45:22,477 --> 00:45:25,662
Okay, no, sorry, I don't mean to interrupt
you, but okay.

977
00:45:25,662 --> 00:45:28,680
Stop laughing at me.

978
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,859
that they're like I don't mean to
interrupt but I'm going to interrupt

979
00:45:33,846 --> 00:45:34,376
talking.

980
00:45:34,376 --> 00:45:36,949
Okay.

981
00:45:36,949 --> 00:45:38,651
Liz and I both just read the same book.

982
00:45:38,651 --> 00:45:38,931
Okay.

983
00:45:38,931 --> 00:45:41,073
It's called Worthy by Jamie Kern Lima.

984
00:45:41,073 --> 00:45:42,684
I know what you're going to say.

985
00:45:42,684 --> 00:45:47,399
Anyway, there's this part in the book
where it talks about how obviously a

986
00:45:47,399 --> 00:45:48,970
caterpillar turns into a butterfly.

987
00:45:48,970 --> 00:45:50,662
And she's like, everybody knows the story.

988
00:45:50,662 --> 00:45:52,293
Caterpillar turns into a butterfly.

989
00:45:52,293 --> 00:45:53,384
Life is good, whatever.

990
00:45:53,384 --> 00:45:56,667
But she's like, people don't know like
actually what happens.

991
00:45:56,667 --> 00:45:59,662
So when a caterpillar, I'm about to blow
your mind.

992
00:45:59,662 --> 00:46:03,282
When a caterpillar turns into a butterfly,
when it goes into its cocoon, it actually

993
00:46:03,282 --> 00:46:04,922
completely liquefies.

994
00:46:04,922 --> 00:46:06,362
So it's not anything.

995
00:46:06,362 --> 00:46:07,662
It's completely liquid.

996
00:46:07,662 --> 00:46:10,982
So in that process, it's not a
caterpillar, it's not a butterfly, it's

997
00:46:10,982 --> 00:46:11,702
just straight up liquid.

998
00:46:11,702 --> 00:46:15,542
So when it comes out of the cocoon, it
starts to emerge from the cocoon, but its

999
00:46:15,542 --> 00:46:16,182
wings are wet.

1000
00:46:16,182 --> 00:46:18,962
So it still can't even fly when it comes
out of the cocoon.

1001
00:46:18,962 --> 00:46:21,002
And then, what was it, 2 %?

1002
00:46:21,002 --> 00:46:25,742
Only 2 % of butterflies actually emerge
from the cocoon and are like successful

1003
00:46:25,742 --> 00:46:26,842
butterflies.

1004
00:46:26,967 --> 00:46:30,338
And so that fall down because a lot of
them will try to fly when their wings are

1005
00:46:30,338 --> 00:46:30,738
still wet.

1006
00:46:30,738 --> 00:46:33,368
They think that their failures, all the
things, right?

1007
00:46:33,869 --> 00:46:38,700
So she made this analogy of like,
obviously caterpillars are not going to

1008
00:46:38,700 --> 00:46:42,511
understand the butterfly because they
don't know that they can be that great.

1009
00:46:42,511 --> 00:46:45,852
They don't know what they're capable of,
but in order to become the butterfly, they

1010
00:46:45,852 --> 00:46:49,873
have to go through this period of unknown
where they're completely liquid.

1011
00:46:49,873 --> 00:46:52,533
And even coming out of that, they're
doubting themselves because their wings

1012
00:46:52,533 --> 00:46:55,814
are wet and whatever before they can
actually truly

1013
00:46:56,236 --> 00:47:00,599
And that hit hard because I was like, my
gosh, that's just that in between spot

1014
00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:02,410
where people think that they're doing
something wrong.

1015
00:47:02,410 --> 00:47:05,712
They think that, you know, they're not on
the right path or doubting themselves,

1016
00:47:05,712 --> 00:47:08,494
whatever, but they don't know how truly
great that they can be.

1017
00:47:08,494 --> 00:47:11,346
And they can't relate with the caterpillar
anymore because the caterpillar doesn't

1018
00:47:11,346 --> 00:47:12,676
understand the butterfly.

1019
00:47:12,797 --> 00:47:15,228
So I thought that tied in very well.

1020
00:47:15,228 --> 00:47:18,240
were just talking about that.

1021
00:47:19,101 --> 00:47:20,241
Yes.

1022
00:47:20,282 --> 00:47:20,703
Yes.

1023
00:47:20,703 --> 00:47:21,143
take it.

1024
00:47:21,143 --> 00:47:22,343
I might take it deep here.

1025
00:47:22,343 --> 00:47:23,763
All right, we're going deep.

1026
00:47:23,763 --> 00:47:24,703
Let's go.

1027
00:47:24,703 --> 00:47:27,843
So guys, want one thing I want you to
understand this is probably gonna be too

1028
00:47:27,843 --> 00:47:28,883
deep for some of you to understand.

1029
00:47:28,883 --> 00:47:30,303
So I'm gonna try to dumb it down a little
bit.

1030
00:47:30,303 --> 00:47:33,603
Not to say that you you just haven't
progressed along this journey from an

1031
00:47:33,603 --> 00:47:38,643
energy and study standpoint to truly get
this for this is class level 100 is what

1032
00:47:38,643 --> 00:47:39,623
he's trying to say.

1033
00:47:39,623 --> 00:47:42,623
What I want to dive into here and we don't
need to go down this path, but it's

1034
00:47:42,623 --> 00:47:46,303
important to notice important to mention
because that is an amazing example.

1035
00:47:46,303 --> 00:47:48,183
The same exact order.

1036
00:47:48,263 --> 00:47:48,513
right?

1037
00:47:48,513 --> 00:47:52,945
The same exact energy, the same exact call
it divine intervention, or the same exact

1038
00:47:52,945 --> 00:47:57,566
intentionality of the universe that
creates that caterpillar liquefies that

1039
00:47:57,566 --> 00:48:01,207
turns it into a butterfly and then gives
that butterfly the chance and the free

1040
00:48:01,207 --> 00:48:04,389
will to understand like, Hey, if I just
give it a couple of days, I'll be able to

1041
00:48:04,389 --> 00:48:07,750
fly and live my life as a beautiful
butterfly versus the ones that try to

1042
00:48:07,750 --> 00:48:12,051
force it is the exact same power of
intention that we are created

1043
00:48:12,105 --> 00:48:15,717
that we literally have the ability to tap
into on a day to day basis is why we talk

1044
00:48:15,717 --> 00:48:18,679
about visualization, manifestation,
positive affirmations.

1045
00:48:18,679 --> 00:48:21,841
Like to Janet's point earlier, you have no
idea how powerful you are.

1046
00:48:21,841 --> 00:48:26,153
The same intention that freaking creates
gravity, whatever, all these different

1047
00:48:26,153 --> 00:48:29,755
things that the universal laws operate off
of is the same exact power that we have

1048
00:48:29,755 --> 00:48:32,276
the ability to tap into every freaking
day, right?

1049
00:48:32,276 --> 00:48:37,039
Literally, like we have no idea what we
are capable of from a standpoint of if we

1050
00:48:37,039 --> 00:48:40,785
can tap into that, truly understand it and
get the hell out of our own way.

1051
00:48:40,785 --> 00:48:44,536
and just let these laws go into effect and
just tap into it like a river and just

1052
00:48:44,536 --> 00:48:46,036
jump in and ride it.

1053
00:48:46,036 --> 00:48:49,937
Your life can be so much better than it
than it ever could have imagined.

1054
00:48:49,937 --> 00:48:50,618
Right.

1055
00:48:50,618 --> 00:48:53,959
Even for us, like the journey that we're
all on, we're so different than where we

1056
00:48:53,959 --> 00:48:57,750
were a couple of years ago, but we still
have any, we're like at a half of a

1057
00:48:57,750 --> 00:48:59,820
percent of what we're even capable of.

1058
00:48:59,820 --> 00:49:00,110
Right.

1059
00:49:00,110 --> 00:49:02,911
So the whole idea there, I know I went
deep on that, but to give you some

1060
00:49:02,911 --> 00:49:07,402
actionable stuff is this get out of your
own way and understand that visualization

1061
00:49:07,402 --> 00:49:10,685
and manifesting you're already doing

1062
00:49:10,685 --> 00:49:10,945
Right?

1063
00:49:10,945 --> 00:49:13,736
So many people that I meet are like, I
struggle with manifesting visualizing.

1064
00:49:13,736 --> 00:49:14,237
No, you don't.

1065
00:49:14,237 --> 00:49:15,617
You're already visualizing.

1066
00:49:15,617 --> 00:49:16,828
You do it every freaking day.

1067
00:49:16,828 --> 00:49:19,179
It's just that you're not doing it by
intent.

1068
00:49:19,179 --> 00:49:22,560
You're literally just living your life and
letting life, the river, so to speak,

1069
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:23,661
direct you where you're going.

1070
00:49:23,661 --> 00:49:24,981
And it's the wrong river.

1071
00:49:24,981 --> 00:49:27,222
Get on the river of like, no, I'm in
control of this.

1072
00:49:27,222 --> 00:49:31,614
I'm no longer going to let my past
decisions or my emotions or experiences

1073
00:49:31,614 --> 00:49:32,575
dictate where I'm going.

1074
00:49:32,575 --> 00:49:33,395
I'm going to jump in.

1075
00:49:33,395 --> 00:49:36,167
I'm going to tap into the universal power
that exists.

1076
00:49:36,167 --> 00:49:37,469
And I'm going to just

1077
00:49:37,469 --> 00:49:41,062
be the guy that controls that and moves my
life forward intentionally.

1078
00:49:41,062 --> 00:49:44,664
I want to I want to hit on something you
said here's a here's an example.

1079
00:49:44,664 --> 00:49:46,335
And actually, it's so funny.

1080
00:49:46,335 --> 00:49:47,746
I heard this last night.

1081
00:49:47,746 --> 00:49:51,008
I'm not gonna most likely butcher the
exact way this guy put it because he

1082
00:49:51,008 --> 00:49:52,019
talked for like two minutes.

1083
00:49:52,019 --> 00:49:53,730
I'm not gonna like you know what mean?

1084
00:49:53,730 --> 00:49:54,591
That's two minutes long.

1085
00:49:54,591 --> 00:49:55,591
I'm not gonna do that.

1086
00:49:55,591 --> 00:49:55,892
All right.

1087
00:49:55,892 --> 00:49:56,872
But here's the example.

1088
00:49:56,872 --> 00:50:00,545
And he goes through and he talks about
like, if you have ants, right, you look at

1089
00:50:00,545 --> 00:50:00,825
an ant.

1090
00:50:00,825 --> 00:50:05,078
And then let's say you grab a piece of
food or a cookie, whatever you drop it,

1091
00:50:05,078 --> 00:50:07,229
you know, five feet away from

1092
00:50:07,475 --> 00:50:12,277
To that ant, it smells the cookie, but
that cookie to the ant is in the future,

1093
00:50:12,277 --> 00:50:12,597
right?

1094
00:50:12,597 --> 00:50:14,819
To us, when we look at it, it's in the
present.

1095
00:50:14,819 --> 00:50:16,078
We see both.

1096
00:50:16,499 --> 00:50:20,861
And what he talked about is if you look at
God in the same logic, okay?

1097
00:50:20,861 --> 00:50:23,402
So let's look at the universe, God,
whatever.

1098
00:50:23,402 --> 00:50:25,464
For us, we smell the future, right?

1099
00:50:25,464 --> 00:50:29,716
We think about the future, but God has
this view where he can see it, and to him,

1100
00:50:29,716 --> 00:50:30,456
it's still the present.

1101
00:50:30,456 --> 00:50:31,437
He's like, dude, it's right there.

1102
00:50:31,437 --> 00:50:32,697
You just gotta keep going.

1103
00:50:32,819 --> 00:50:35,330
But to us, we're like, my God, we gotta
wait for this moment.

1104
00:50:35,330 --> 00:50:38,001
We gotta wait for it until we get this,
until we get this.

1105
00:50:38,001 --> 00:50:39,852
Dude, it's actually happening right now.

1106
00:50:39,852 --> 00:50:42,003
We just think it's in the future.

1107
00:50:42,063 --> 00:50:45,685
And to what Josh is saying is, oftentimes
we think that we don't have the thing now.

1108
00:50:45,685 --> 00:50:46,925
Like we gotta go out and get it.

1109
00:50:46,925 --> 00:50:48,386
And when we get it now, it's moving.

1110
00:50:48,386 --> 00:50:52,918
It's like, no, dude, it's moving now, but
it's what you think and what you do that

1111
00:50:52,918 --> 00:50:54,088
gets you there closer.

1112
00:50:54,088 --> 00:50:55,129
It's already there.

1113
00:50:55,129 --> 00:50:58,330
And like to that perspective, it's like
God sees the plan.

1114
00:50:58,330 --> 00:50:59,170
It's there for us.

1115
00:50:59,170 --> 00:51:00,733
We don't see it yet.

1116
00:51:00,733 --> 00:51:03,314
And we just got to trust that we got to
believe and we got to have that positive

1117
00:51:03,314 --> 00:51:03,905
mindset.

1118
00:51:03,905 --> 00:51:07,387
So just something I heard yesterday, I was
like, Holy fuck, this is awesome.

1119
00:51:07,387 --> 00:51:09,027
You guys stop fighting.

1120
00:51:09,848 --> 00:51:13,190
So to add on to that, something I just
thought about, and this, wanted to say

1121
00:51:13,190 --> 00:51:16,092
this a little bit earlier, when you guys
were talking about like your journey, and

1122
00:51:16,092 --> 00:51:18,803
we talked about it all the time is like, I
think a big thing that holds a lot of

1123
00:51:18,803 --> 00:51:22,165
people back from achieving the life or
detaching from the old life and the

1124
00:51:22,165 --> 00:51:26,067
friends and all these things is that you
don't know where you're going, right?

1125
00:51:26,067 --> 00:51:29,605
You don't you don't have like a point that
you're aiming for like a North Star.

1126
00:51:29,605 --> 00:51:34,048
And when you don't, when you fail to
influence your own decisions and

1127
00:51:34,048 --> 00:51:37,010
directions, you're going to be influenced
by other people, right?

1128
00:51:37,010 --> 00:51:40,141
So by not knowing what you want and where
you're going, you're always going to be

1129
00:51:40,141 --> 00:51:42,463
influenced by what other people want and
what they're doing.

1130
00:51:42,463 --> 00:51:42,733
Right?

1131
00:51:42,733 --> 00:51:45,635
A simple example of that is like, if you
go to a restaurant, like you get there and

1132
00:51:45,635 --> 00:51:48,447
now you're super indecisive because you're
like, I don't know, the menu looks great.

1133
00:51:48,447 --> 00:51:50,628
I love all these photos or this sounds
really good.

1134
00:51:50,628 --> 00:51:51,518
You don't know what you want.

1135
00:51:51,518 --> 00:51:54,840
So you're in that moment of indecision and
complacency in that moment, right?

1136
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:55,943
Versus if

1137
00:51:55,943 --> 00:51:59,276
know exactly what you're going to get when
you get there and then the waitress starts

1138
00:51:59,276 --> 00:52:00,297
reading off the menu to you.

1139
00:52:00,297 --> 00:52:00,938
You're like, nah, I'm good.

1140
00:52:00,938 --> 00:52:02,089
I already know what I want.

1141
00:52:02,089 --> 00:52:03,560
I know exactly what I'm getting, right?

1142
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,213
It's just that decision of this is what
I'm doing.

1143
00:52:06,213 --> 00:52:07,764
This is where I'm going, right?

1144
00:52:07,764 --> 00:52:10,927
So an example that I want to tell a little
story is like, all right, you're in a

1145
00:52:10,927 --> 00:52:11,367
hallway.

1146
00:52:11,367 --> 00:52:11,728
Okay.

1147
00:52:11,728 --> 00:52:13,379
There's a very long hallway.

1148
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,732
Your goal is to get to the other end of
the hallway.

1149
00:52:15,732 --> 00:52:16,342
Okay.

1150
00:52:16,342 --> 00:52:21,627
Now if there's a chair in the middle of
that hallway, it's a chair, right?

1151
00:52:21,679 --> 00:52:24,553
In one example, if you know exactly what
you're doing and you want to get to the

1152
00:52:24,553 --> 00:52:27,525
end of that hallway, all that chair
becomes is an obstacle for you.

1153
00:52:27,786 --> 00:52:31,090
But in reality, what that chair actually
is, is a place to stop and rest.

1154
00:52:31,090 --> 00:52:33,853
It's the purpose of a chair is to sit and
relax.

1155
00:52:33,934 --> 00:52:36,327
And if you don't know where you're going,
you're going to see that chair and you're

1156
00:52:36,327 --> 00:52:37,278
like, cool, a place to sit.

1157
00:52:37,278 --> 00:52:38,119
And you're going to sit there.

1158
00:52:38,119 --> 00:52:41,272
And that's what most people do with their
life because they simply don't know where

1159
00:52:41,272 --> 00:52:42,233
they're aiming.

1160
00:52:42,269 --> 00:52:42,469
Right?

1161
00:52:42,469 --> 00:52:43,881
You tie in what you guys have talked
about.

1162
00:52:43,881 --> 00:52:47,787
If you don't let go of those people behind
you or the past experiences, the emotions,

1163
00:52:47,787 --> 00:52:50,872
all these things that are holding you
back, that chair becomes a place to stop

1164
00:52:50,872 --> 00:52:51,353
and sit.

1165
00:52:51,353 --> 00:52:52,845
And it might be at the beginning of that
hallway.

1166
00:52:52,845 --> 00:52:54,026
It might be a third of the way down.

1167
00:52:54,026 --> 00:52:55,599
It might be halfway or three quarters.

1168
00:52:55,599 --> 00:52:58,702
You're never going to reach the end of the
hallway because you weren't aiming for it.

1169
00:52:58,707 --> 00:52:58,927
Right?

1170
00:52:58,927 --> 00:53:00,948
So it's just the intentionality and
understanding this.

1171
00:53:00,948 --> 00:53:04,530
And again, getting out of your own way and
being pulled to your point earlier of

1172
00:53:04,530 --> 00:53:06,440
like, Hey, I felt like I was pulled in
that direction.

1173
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:07,671
Listen to it.

1174
00:53:07,671 --> 00:53:07,961
Right.

1175
00:53:07,961 --> 00:53:10,943
And then take the actionable things that
we've talked about on our podcast, the

1176
00:53:10,943 --> 00:53:14,714
things you guys talk about your podcast
and allow that to pull you knowing through

1177
00:53:14,714 --> 00:53:16,965
faith that, Hey, all I gotta do is keep
going.

1178
00:53:16,965 --> 00:53:17,976
That chair is an obstacle.

1179
00:53:17,976 --> 00:53:19,536
There's going to be more of them.

1180
00:53:19,576 --> 00:53:20,637
It's not a place to stop.

1181
00:53:20,637 --> 00:53:23,438
not a place to sit because you have a
direction of where you're going and you're

1182
00:53:23,438 --> 00:53:26,382
not going to stop until you get there.

1183
00:53:26,382 --> 00:53:27,305
love it.

1184
00:53:27,305 --> 00:53:29,800
Question for you, spinning this a little
bit.

1185
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,807
We talk a lot about visualization and
manifestation on this podcast.

1186
00:53:32,807 --> 00:53:35,893
So have you guys always visualized?

1187
00:53:35,893 --> 00:53:39,032
What has your experience been with that?

1188
00:53:39,032 --> 00:53:39,733
No.

1189
00:53:39,733 --> 00:53:40,464
for this.

1190
00:53:40,464 --> 00:53:42,214
Dive into your experience with
visualization.

1191
00:53:42,214 --> 00:53:44,535
That's one of the things that probably the
biggest feedback that I get on the show,

1192
00:53:44,535 --> 00:53:47,307
because we talked about it, people really
truly want to step into it.

1193
00:53:47,307 --> 00:53:48,787
And I know it's not a perfect journey.

1194
00:53:48,787 --> 00:53:51,688
So just tell your true experience with it
and how you guys do it.

1195
00:53:51,809 --> 00:53:55,750
But like what's been your experience with
visualization and the shutting everything

1196
00:53:55,750 --> 00:53:57,671
down and just finding that piece?

1197
00:53:58,011 --> 00:53:59,332
And what do you struggle with still?

1198
00:53:59,332 --> 00:54:02,994
then one thing that I would like to know
is also what's one of the scenarios you

1199
00:54:02,994 --> 00:54:04,214
guys visualize?

1200
00:54:04,214 --> 00:54:06,715
Like your favorite one or your one that
you do often?

1201
00:54:07,915 --> 00:54:08,846
okay.

1202
00:54:08,846 --> 00:54:16,263
So visualization for me has helped because
like I said, I always have struggled with

1203
00:54:16,263 --> 00:54:19,276
that self belief, that self limiting
belief.

1204
00:54:19,276 --> 00:54:24,791
And so when I am able to take some time
and actually visualize my best self, my

1205
00:54:24,791 --> 00:54:30,847
best version, like what I picture as my
best self, that helps me actually believe

1206
00:54:30,847 --> 00:54:32,088
that is possible.

1207
00:54:32,088 --> 00:54:33,439
So that's been huge.

1208
00:54:33,439 --> 00:54:40,031
I know I never, probably, didn't visualize
until, I mean, probably a year and a half,

1209
00:54:40,031 --> 00:54:45,544
two years ago, Josh introduced like a
guided visualization to me that was on

1210
00:54:45,544 --> 00:54:45,974
YouTube.

1211
00:54:45,974 --> 00:54:46,855
And I needed that.

1212
00:54:46,855 --> 00:54:50,696
Like it was, talked me through like what
you should be doing, closing down your

1213
00:54:50,696 --> 00:54:55,168
eyes and literally the things that you
should be kind of thinking through.

1214
00:54:55,168 --> 00:54:56,789
And I needed that to start.

1215
00:54:56,789 --> 00:54:58,950
So that was a really helpful tool.

1216
00:54:59,660 --> 00:55:05,362
And then that like led me to actually see
my best version of myself because like you

1217
00:55:05,362 --> 00:55:07,192
said, like, we're good.

1218
00:55:07,192 --> 00:55:11,794
Like we get to a point where we feel like
we're good, but we can be so much greater.

1219
00:55:11,794 --> 00:55:15,995
Like that has helped me believe in where I
see myself.

1220
00:55:15,995 --> 00:55:19,336
So I don't know.

1221
00:55:19,956 --> 00:55:23,877
Was that that was that was your question,
like how we started, how we started

1222
00:55:23,877 --> 00:55:25,078
visualizing.

1223
00:55:25,181 --> 00:55:25,422
Yeah.

1224
00:55:25,422 --> 00:55:26,537
And what do you visualize now?

1225
00:55:26,537 --> 00:55:29,685
Like what's your go -to visualization?

1226
00:55:29,685 --> 00:55:35,506
I visual I mean I visualize like some
material things where I see myself where

1227
00:55:35,506 --> 00:55:41,366
we're living I mean like in detail the
house I have it on my vision board the

1228
00:55:41,366 --> 00:55:44,746
house The area the land around it.

1229
00:55:44,746 --> 00:55:48,746
I visualize my kids riding four -wheelers
around I have two boys I have an eight

1230
00:55:48,746 --> 00:55:55,766
-year -old 11 year old like to the detail
myself my gym at the at the house like it

1231
00:55:55,766 --> 00:55:56,556
is

1232
00:55:56,556 --> 00:56:01,406
I always visualize myself parking my car
in the garage, going through like the door

1233
00:56:01,406 --> 00:56:04,661
I go in, the sounds.

1234
00:56:04,943 --> 00:56:08,589
It's, it's, that's what I constantly go

1235
00:56:08,947 --> 00:56:11,922
What color is the door handle from the
garage to the house?

1236
00:56:12,784 --> 00:56:13,845
hey, that's a good one.

1237
00:56:13,845 --> 00:56:19,457
It is black.

1238
00:56:19,538 --> 00:56:22,349
It's the long handle, so it's not a knob.

1239
00:56:22,349 --> 00:56:25,040
A white door.

1240
00:56:25,381 --> 00:56:28,833
Like, I can even hear the echo when I walk
into the house.

1241
00:56:28,833 --> 00:56:30,974
The TV's on above the fireplace.

1242
00:56:30,974 --> 00:56:32,034
Like, I can hear the echo.

1243
00:56:32,034 --> 00:56:38,562
I'm coming into the kitchen, putting
groceries down.

1244
00:56:38,562 --> 00:56:40,723
So mine's a little different.

1245
00:56:44,345 --> 00:56:46,907
I have struggled with visualization from
day one.

1246
00:56:46,907 --> 00:56:51,489
Like Josh has been trying to help me with
this for three years now.

1247
00:56:52,169 --> 00:56:56,192
I wouldn't say that I visualize very well.

1248
00:56:56,192 --> 00:57:02,315
However, I think I get into my head that I
should be visualizing material things.

1249
00:57:02,315 --> 00:57:06,217
I ever since I started doing this from day
one, I've never ever been able to

1250
00:57:06,217 --> 00:57:08,396
visualize a single

1251
00:57:08,396 --> 00:57:13,330
material item ever because I, it doesn't
drive me.

1252
00:57:13,330 --> 00:57:18,534
don't, I don't have anything in my head
material wise that I don't know.

1253
00:57:18,534 --> 00:57:20,094
I can't connect with that.

1254
00:57:20,315 --> 00:57:26,420
However, I visualize my best self and I
visualize experiences and opportunities is

1255
00:57:26,420 --> 00:57:28,521
what I experienced or is what I visualize.

1256
00:57:28,521 --> 00:57:32,945
So that's been huge for me.

1257
00:57:32,945 --> 00:57:34,826
Just visualizing who I

1258
00:57:35,338 --> 00:57:38,720
And I'm not even going to say who I want
to be because that's the act of

1259
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,782
visualization is you become that.

1260
00:57:41,782 --> 00:57:44,484
Like that's what you are is like, that's
why you visualize.

1261
00:57:44,484 --> 00:57:46,445
So you can visualize yourself as that.

1262
00:57:46,445 --> 00:57:49,447
And you can show up as that person.

1263
00:57:49,447 --> 00:57:51,708
Like that day, like you don't have to
wait.

1264
00:57:51,708 --> 00:57:53,859
You don't have to wait for it to manifest
in your life.

1265
00:57:53,859 --> 00:57:57,011
You don't have to wait for it to come to
you because you are that person.

1266
00:57:57,011 --> 00:58:01,174
So that's really where I spend my time
visualizing

1267
00:58:01,538 --> 00:58:04,890
my best self, how, what's my energy, how
do I act, what kind of decisions do I

1268
00:58:04,890 --> 00:58:08,182
make, like what kind of person am I, what
kind of a friend am I, like all of those

1269
00:58:08,182 --> 00:58:11,043
things.

1270
00:58:11,243 --> 00:58:12,224
That's what I do.

1271
00:58:12,224 --> 00:58:18,287
I visualize also opportunities, a lot of
things with my business and my people, my

1272
00:58:18,287 --> 00:58:19,408
people succeeding.

1273
00:58:19,408 --> 00:58:21,088
That's what I visualize.

1274
00:58:22,750 --> 00:58:28,413
I see everybody that I work with, I see
their potential and I visualize that

1275
00:58:28,413 --> 00:58:29,413
success for them.

1276
00:58:29,413 --> 00:58:31,340
So that's kind of my experience.

1277
00:58:31,340 --> 00:58:32,091
with it.

1278
00:58:32,091 --> 00:58:33,031
I don't know.

1279
00:58:33,031 --> 00:58:37,334
I want to talk about that because you said
visualizing the things that you do to

1280
00:58:37,334 --> 00:58:41,737
become that, like becoming that best self,
that best version of yourself and like

1281
00:58:41,737 --> 00:58:43,068
what does that person do?

1282
00:58:43,068 --> 00:58:47,681
I think that's really helpful too when
visualizing is like, okay, this is where I

1283
00:58:47,681 --> 00:58:51,124
see myself, but what are the things that I
need to do to get there?

1284
00:58:51,124 --> 00:58:55,167
Like what acting as if, like what are the
things that that person does?

1285
00:58:55,167 --> 00:58:58,979
So like back when I was starting my health
and fitness journey and I saw, you know,

1286
00:58:58,979 --> 00:59:00,066
that person

1287
00:59:00,066 --> 00:59:02,947
that my visualization has changed, you
know, over the years.

1288
00:59:02,947 --> 00:59:06,528
And so I saw that I was looking more at
like a physical standpoint of like what

1289
00:59:06,528 --> 00:59:08,087
that person looks like.

1290
00:59:08,087 --> 00:59:09,469
And what does that person do?

1291
00:59:09,469 --> 00:59:12,750
Well, that person goes to the gym when
they don't feel like going, you know, like

1292
00:59:12,750 --> 00:59:15,790
they show up and they go and they get
their workout in when they don't feel like

1293
00:59:15,790 --> 00:59:16,280
doing it.

1294
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:20,752
What is that, you know, visualizing my
best self as a mom?

1295
00:59:20,752 --> 00:59:22,392
What does that mom do?

1296
00:59:22,392 --> 00:59:25,353
What you know, what does she do with her
kids?

1297
00:59:26,393 --> 00:59:28,620
So that's been part of the visualization.

1298
00:59:28,620 --> 00:59:29,871
visualization process.

1299
00:59:29,871 --> 00:59:33,214
And you made me think of that when you
were talking about how you visualize is

1300
00:59:33,214 --> 00:59:38,489
what does that person do and acting as if
and showing up as if you are already that

1301
00:59:38,489 --> 00:59:39,039
person.

1302
00:59:39,039 --> 00:59:39,810
Well, that's the thing though.

1303
00:59:39,810 --> 00:59:44,324
It's, that's the whole acting as if like
you are that person.

1304
00:59:44,384 --> 00:59:44,945
That's the thing.

1305
00:59:44,945 --> 00:59:48,288
That person already exists and all you
have to do is show up as that person.

1306
00:59:48,288 --> 00:59:52,361
Like that's been the probably my biggest
takeaway from it all is it's like you kind

1307
00:59:52,361 --> 00:59:55,054
of like what you were talking about, like
the future doesn't exist.

1308
00:59:55,054 --> 00:59:55,700
Like

1309
00:59:55,700 --> 00:59:58,902
it's there's no space between now and then
there's nothing you have to wait for.

1310
00:59:58,902 --> 01:00:03,055
There's nothing that's going to happen
between now and the future because because

1311
01:00:03,496 --> 01:00:04,957
time flows through us.

1312
01:00:04,957 --> 01:00:08,309
Like it's just, you already are that
person.

1313
01:00:08,309 --> 01:00:14,264
So visualizing that like connects your
energy with the person that you want to

1314
01:00:14,264 --> 01:00:14,584
be.

1315
01:00:14,584 --> 01:00:16,235
So you literally show up as that person.

1316
01:00:16,235 --> 01:00:17,656
You are vibrating as that person.

1317
01:00:17,656 --> 01:00:19,508
Like I don't, I don't know how to talk
about it.

1318
01:00:19,508 --> 01:00:21,519
I don't know how to, it makes sense in my
head.

1319
01:00:21,519 --> 01:00:22,429
So yeah.

1320
01:00:22,429 --> 01:00:23,830
No, we totally get it.

1321
01:00:23,830 --> 01:00:25,501
There's a question.

1322
01:00:25,501 --> 01:00:26,943
Yeah.

1323
01:00:26,943 --> 01:00:31,006
Well, here's a, here's the next question I
want to ask that hopefully helps the

1324
01:00:31,006 --> 01:00:31,826
audience.

1325
01:00:31,826 --> 01:00:34,769
But how did you guys come up with who that
better version of yourself is?

1326
01:00:34,769 --> 01:00:35,889
Like, how'd you guys find that?

1327
01:00:35,889 --> 01:00:38,291
Like, how did you get to that

1328
01:00:38,658 --> 01:00:43,351
mean, from a spiritual standpoint, you
were saying like, God can see that that is

1329
01:00:43,351 --> 01:00:44,012
your path.

1330
01:00:44,012 --> 01:00:46,624
And like, you were asking us in the
beginning, like you always had that

1331
01:00:46,624 --> 01:00:50,496
feeling of where you, of you were missing
something.

1332
01:00:50,496 --> 01:00:55,370
Like to me, that was God reminding me that
I was meant for more.

1333
01:00:56,371 --> 01:01:00,814
And so I think it's just been that, I
don't know.

1334
01:01:00,814 --> 01:01:03,856
It's just been that feeling inside.

1335
01:01:03,976 --> 01:01:06,718
I think it has been a transfer

1336
01:01:07,138 --> 01:01:09,249
God reminding me of what I'm meant to be.

1337
01:01:09,249 --> 01:01:10,589
I don't know.

1338
01:01:10,589 --> 01:01:12,920
It's hard to say because I don't feel like
I choose.

1339
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:17,031
It's not like I choose these qualities
that like, here this and this Nat like

1340
01:01:17,031 --> 01:01:18,621
that's going to be the perfect version of
myself.

1341
01:01:18,621 --> 01:01:20,082
It's what aligns with me.

1342
01:01:20,082 --> 01:01:21,922
Like what is in your alignment?

1343
01:01:21,922 --> 01:01:25,863
What brings what when you picture it like
your mind just goes there.

1344
01:01:25,863 --> 01:01:26,654
It's peaceful.

1345
01:01:26,654 --> 01:01:27,444
It's joyful.

1346
01:01:27,444 --> 01:01:28,564
It's it.

1347
01:01:28,564 --> 01:01:31,185
It connects with you like you feel like
it.

1348
01:01:31,185 --> 01:01:32,765
It's it fits.

1349
01:01:33,326 --> 01:01:35,266
So you almost you have to.

1350
01:01:35,672 --> 01:01:40,688
Get yourself to a point where you are in
like straight up meditation, where you're

1351
01:01:40,688 --> 01:01:42,150
not thinking about anything.

1352
01:01:42,150 --> 01:01:44,973
You know, when you are not active with
your thoughts, like where do they go?

1353
01:01:44,973 --> 01:01:46,795
Like what do you, you know what I mean?

1354
01:01:46,795 --> 01:01:50,139
What comes to mind when you are not
actively thinking?

1355
01:01:50,180 --> 01:01:52,652
I guess if that makes sense.

1356
01:01:52,695 --> 01:01:56,417
it's a great example that you guys gave
with the caterpillar because it's it's

1357
01:01:56,417 --> 01:01:57,537
that right?

1358
01:01:57,537 --> 01:02:01,999
Your point was hey, when that there's that
liquid process and it becomes a butterfly.

1359
01:02:01,999 --> 01:02:05,331
Well, the butterfly doesn't even recognize
that the caterpillar was ever even a thing

1360
01:02:05,331 --> 01:02:05,731
anymore.

1361
01:02:05,731 --> 01:02:10,943
Like it was just spawned out of nothing to
become the butterfly, so to speak.

1362
01:02:10,943 --> 01:02:11,303
Right?

1363
01:02:11,303 --> 01:02:13,534
Obviously, there's divine things happening
there.

1364
01:02:13,534 --> 01:02:17,176
But it doesn't have like the past
recollection of the caterpillar to be

1365
01:02:17,176 --> 01:02:19,096
like, man, you know, I used to crawl on
the ground.

1366
01:02:19,096 --> 01:02:20,667
I remember those days like

1367
01:02:20,667 --> 01:02:21,207
It's gone.

1368
01:02:21,207 --> 01:02:25,359
And that's such a powerful thing of like
truly becoming and manifesting and

1369
01:02:25,359 --> 01:02:28,501
visualizing is like you can't like the
past doesn't exist.

1370
01:02:28,501 --> 01:02:29,731
Like that person.

1371
01:02:29,731 --> 01:02:33,483
And that was for me to answer your
question is like, I had to recognize like,

1372
01:02:33,483 --> 01:02:37,405
right, like these are the situations that
for me, it was a situational experience.

1373
01:02:37,405 --> 01:02:40,636
It was like, all right, well, in these
situations in the past, these are the

1374
01:02:40,636 --> 01:02:43,318
things that I used to do and it didn't
produce the outcome that I wanted.

1375
01:02:43,318 --> 01:02:44,738
So I can't repeat that.

1376
01:02:44,738 --> 01:02:47,900
Like if I'm going to repeat that, it's
going to lead to more of those same

1377
01:02:47,900 --> 01:02:48,500
things.

1378
01:02:48,500 --> 01:02:50,563
So for me, I started visualizing like, all
right,

1379
01:02:50,563 --> 01:02:53,926
what would what would have done in that
situation if I wanted a future outcome

1380
01:02:53,926 --> 01:02:55,117
that was better, right?

1381
01:02:55,117 --> 01:02:56,378
Quote unquote future.

1382
01:02:56,378 --> 01:03:00,761
So I started realizing in the moment, it's
like, all right, well, if I need to not be

1383
01:03:00,761 --> 01:03:02,282
that, then what's the opposite of that?

1384
01:03:02,282 --> 01:03:04,544
It's the whole contrast list that we talk
about.

1385
01:03:04,544 --> 01:03:07,477
And again, if you don't know what you want
or where you're going, sometimes you got

1386
01:03:07,477 --> 01:03:10,609
to understand what you don't want or don't
where you don't want to go.

1387
01:03:10,609 --> 01:03:11,940
And then the opposite of that is true.

1388
01:03:11,940 --> 01:03:16,114
OK, everything in nature operates off of
opposites, North Pole, South Pole,

1389
01:03:16,114 --> 01:03:17,184
positive, negative.

1390
01:03:17,184 --> 01:03:17,795
Right.

1391
01:03:17,795 --> 01:03:20,437
It's you know, we have positive electrons
and

1392
01:03:20,437 --> 01:03:22,659
of things going on in the body and from a
proton standpoint.

1393
01:03:22,659 --> 01:03:27,332
So everything from a standpoint of nature
and order operates off of opposites and

1394
01:03:27,332 --> 01:03:28,523
it's no different for us.

1395
01:03:28,523 --> 01:03:31,265
So if you're somebody that's stuck in this
rut of like, I don't really know where I

1396
01:03:31,265 --> 01:03:31,635
want to go.

1397
01:03:31,635 --> 01:03:32,005
Okay.

1398
01:03:32,005 --> 01:03:33,186
What don't you want?

1399
01:03:33,186 --> 01:03:34,086
Right.

1400
01:03:34,447 --> 01:03:38,100
Do the opposite and then manifest it and
create that reality just by simply

1401
01:03:38,100 --> 01:03:41,752
quieting your mind and realizing, Hey,
none of those old things are me anymore.

1402
01:03:41,752 --> 01:03:43,914
Like I get to decide right now who I am.

1403
01:03:43,914 --> 01:03:45,814
And then you move forward doing that.

1404
01:03:45,814 --> 01:03:49,576
And then you move forward and you get that
opportunity to look back and be like, I

1405
01:03:49,576 --> 01:03:53,508
that for me, that's a driver is I look
back at the old version of myself and I'm

1406
01:03:53,508 --> 01:03:59,271
like, I never, I wasn't a bad person, but
I was very unfulfilled and very unhappy.

1407
01:03:59,271 --> 01:04:01,943
And I, I never want to go back to that.

1408
01:04:01,943 --> 01:04:07,376
So you need to get to that point where you
can be able to, mean, not look back, but

1409
01:04:07,376 --> 01:04:10,768
look back enough to say, I never, I never
want to go back to that.

1410
01:04:10,768 --> 01:04:13,019
I only want to move forward and only
become better.

1411
01:04:13,019 --> 01:04:13,519
Yeah.

1412
01:04:13,519 --> 01:04:14,710
I think that was

1413
01:04:14,882 --> 01:04:17,923
That reminds me like that was a huge
driver of me in the very beginning because

1414
01:04:17,923 --> 01:04:21,174
it's like when I like I was saying I was
like a lost puppy dog.

1415
01:04:21,174 --> 01:04:26,375
Like I didn't know which direction I was
going, but I knew that whatever I did, I

1416
01:04:26,375 --> 01:04:29,666
needed to get as far away from that
version of myself as I possibly could.

1417
01:04:29,666 --> 01:04:32,907
Like I was at complete rock bottom at that
point.

1418
01:04:32,907 --> 01:04:37,069
And so I was like, I don't know where I'm
headed, but I, as long as I take a step

1419
01:04:37,069 --> 01:04:40,690
forward, it's going to move me farther
away from that person.

1420
01:04:40,690 --> 01:04:41,644
So it's

1421
01:04:41,644 --> 01:04:44,926
That was my driver probably the whole
entire first year because everything was

1422
01:04:44,926 --> 01:04:45,706
still very foggy.

1423
01:04:45,706 --> 01:04:46,907
I didn't know where I was going.

1424
01:04:46,907 --> 01:04:51,109
was like, yeah, I was getting self belief
enough to make it to the next day to keep

1425
01:04:51,109 --> 01:04:52,320
moving forward.

1426
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:56,452
But like it wasn't until, I mean, I'd made
some decent progress and I'd started

1427
01:04:56,452 --> 01:05:00,425
making more changes was when I figured out
the path and the direction where I truly

1428
01:05:00,425 --> 01:05:01,255
did want to go.

1429
01:05:01,255 --> 01:05:02,546
I mean, it took some time.

1430
01:05:02,546 --> 01:05:04,487
So it's not like I knew overnight.

1431
01:05:04,487 --> 01:05:06,108
It's not like it came to me immediately.

1432
01:05:06,108 --> 01:05:07,819
I just knew I didn't want to be that
person anymore.

1433
01:05:07,819 --> 01:05:11,071
So.

1434
01:05:11,071 --> 01:05:12,151
I love that.

1435
01:05:12,151 --> 01:05:13,351
That was beautiful.

1436
01:05:13,351 --> 01:05:17,411
Um, question that we actually really
didn't hit on too much.

1437
01:05:17,411 --> 01:05:22,071
But with the big life changes you guys
have made and what you guys have done for

1438
01:05:22,071 --> 01:05:24,431
yourselves, right, like becoming the
better version.

1439
01:05:24,431 --> 01:05:27,450
I mean, you guys literally just did a 14
or like fucking yesterday.

1440
01:05:27,450 --> 01:05:29,051
Like that's huge, right.

1441
01:05:29,111 --> 01:05:32,231
But what I really want to hit on is how do
you guys do that?

1442
01:05:32,231 --> 01:05:35,131
And how did you find the strength to do
that as parents, right?

1443
01:05:35,131 --> 01:05:36,771
Like, as moms

1444
01:05:37,043 --> 01:05:41,184
you know, where you have little, literally
other life forms that are dependent on you

1445
01:05:41,184 --> 01:05:42,244
and what you do.

1446
01:05:42,244 --> 01:05:45,535
And then on top of the fact of like, okay,
now I got to change myself for me, but

1447
01:05:45,535 --> 01:05:46,706
also for my kids.

1448
01:05:46,706 --> 01:05:48,116
And there's such a big pressure.

1449
01:05:48,116 --> 01:05:52,267
And there's so much that really, you know,
like, for example, like I'm, I don't have

1450
01:05:52,267 --> 01:05:53,047
kids, right?

1451
01:05:53,047 --> 01:05:54,918
So I can go and be like, okay, I want to
change my life.

1452
01:05:54,918 --> 01:05:57,208
I want to go do this and I have more time.

1453
01:05:57,268 --> 01:06:00,089
But how do you do that for someone who
does have kids, right?

1454
01:06:00,089 --> 01:06:03,700
For someone who's maybe in the thick of
it, but then they also have kids that

1455
01:06:03,700 --> 01:06:07,091
depend on like, how do you get through
that, but still manage that piece of

1456
01:06:07,426 --> 01:06:08,658
This is something huge.

1457
01:06:08,658 --> 01:06:12,906
talk about a lot on our podcast just
because - Mamas Rise Up is name of the

1458
01:06:12,906 --> 01:06:14,598
podcast, by the way.

1459
01:06:15,081 --> 01:06:16,141
Apple and

1460
01:06:16,277 --> 01:06:18,030
it.

1461
01:06:18,030 --> 01:06:20,130
hoping to get a YouTube channel.

1462
01:06:24,790 --> 01:06:28,750
So this is huge because I think there was
a huge turning point.

1463
01:06:28,750 --> 01:06:29,990
I remember feeling that at beginning.

1464
01:06:29,990 --> 01:06:32,250
It's like, man, there's so much on my
shoulders.

1465
01:06:32,250 --> 01:06:36,810
This is so heavy of trying to change
myself and raise these little people.

1466
01:06:36,810 --> 01:06:42,830
But once I finally realized that by
changing myself, was become ...

1467
01:06:42,830 --> 01:06:45,516
My kids deserve the best of everything.

1468
01:06:45,516 --> 01:06:48,468
Like I will, they deserve the absolute
best.

1469
01:06:48,468 --> 01:06:51,811
So why would that not include the best
version of myself?

1470
01:06:51,811 --> 01:06:58,515
Why would I give them a watered version of
myself just because I feel like it's

1471
01:06:58,515 --> 01:07:00,317
selfish to pour into me?

1472
01:07:00,317 --> 01:07:05,160
When in reality you have to be selfish to
become the best version of yourself so

1473
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:11,214
that you can be selfless in raising them
because you will be, they deserve the best

1474
01:07:11,214 --> 01:07:13,676
mom they could possibly ever get.

1475
01:07:13,740 --> 01:07:20,455
Again, so like by me being, I'm being
selfish and not becoming that because I'm

1476
01:07:20,556 --> 01:07:25,400
like, once I made that connection, it made
it so much easier and it made it all be

1477
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,621
like, okay, this is all, this is for all
of us.

1478
01:07:27,621 --> 01:07:29,893
This is for everybody that I'm working on
myself.

1479
01:07:29,893 --> 01:07:31,345
Everybody is benefiting.

1480
01:07:31,345 --> 01:07:35,278
Even if I take an hour in the morning and
it's okay if they sit on their screens

1481
01:07:35,278 --> 01:07:38,911
while I get a workout in, that's going to
be a lot better than me showing up as this

1482
01:07:38,911 --> 01:07:42,073
watered down version of myself with no
patience the rest of the day yelling at

1483
01:07:42,073 --> 01:07:43,254
everybody and

1484
01:07:43,296 --> 01:07:44,868
not being happy.

1485
01:07:44,868 --> 01:07:46,649
You know, like, what are they getting out
of that?

1486
01:07:46,649 --> 01:07:50,123
They're seeing, they literally grow up
with the examples that they see.

1487
01:07:50,123 --> 01:07:56,018
So if they're seeing a poor example from
me, like they catch more than what you

1488
01:07:56,018 --> 01:07:58,490
say, like they catch what you do, not what
you say.

1489
01:07:58,490 --> 01:08:01,083
So you have to be that example.

1490
01:08:01,083 --> 01:08:05,027
So by realizing that it made it a lot
easier for me.

1491
01:08:05,027 --> 01:08:06,408
It wasn't so heavy.

1492
01:08:06,408 --> 01:08:08,684
You know, it wasn't so heavy to feel like
everything.

1493
01:08:08,684 --> 01:08:12,107
was on my shoulders and it was like I had
to do all of these things to change myself

1494
01:08:12,107 --> 01:08:12,808
to be a better mom.

1495
01:08:12,808 --> 01:08:17,282
It was like it all started flowing, I
guess, if that made sense.

1496
01:08:17,282 --> 01:08:21,526
That's a huge mindset shift is that like,
and I know a lot of parents struggle with

1497
01:08:21,526 --> 01:08:26,620
this, whatever you're doing to become
better, what's holding you back is the

1498
01:08:26,620 --> 01:08:27,241
excuse.

1499
01:08:27,241 --> 01:08:29,393
Your kids are your excuse.

1500
01:08:29,393 --> 01:08:34,267
And instead you need to shift and let them
be your reason for why you need to be

1501
01:08:34,267 --> 01:08:35,558
doing these things.

1502
01:08:35,922 --> 01:08:36,913
I'm guilty of it.

1503
01:08:36,913 --> 01:08:41,525
I've used them as my excuse of why I can't
pour into this or why I can't do this.

1504
01:08:41,525 --> 01:08:44,897
And instead, and I know a lot of parents
struggle with this and instead it's gotta

1505
01:08:44,897 --> 01:08:47,309
be no, they are my reason.

1506
01:08:47,309 --> 01:08:51,421
They have to be your reason why you are
going to do this, whatever it is that

1507
01:08:51,421 --> 01:08:53,112
you're doing to become better.

1508
01:08:53,472 --> 01:08:56,634
So I think that's been my shift.

1509
01:08:57,383 --> 01:09:02,955
I love that because I think and obviously
I'm not a parent, but what I have seen in

1510
01:09:02,955 --> 01:09:06,857
the past just from and you know, I knew
you guys listened to the podcast here and

1511
01:09:06,857 --> 01:09:12,449
there but you know, growing up like I was
almost like I was trained to be aware very

1512
01:09:12,449 --> 01:09:15,891
early on just because through all the
things that we went through and not by

1513
01:09:15,891 --> 01:09:16,281
choice.

1514
01:09:16,281 --> 01:09:19,712
It's not like I had this magical power but
I was just able to really see things and

1515
01:09:19,712 --> 01:09:22,964
try to interpret them as a young kid where
normally you would kind of just like,

1516
01:09:22,964 --> 01:09:24,494
okay, whatever this is it.

1517
01:09:24,614 --> 01:09:26,335
But I remember just seeing a lot

1518
01:09:26,335 --> 01:09:29,257
parents use their kid as their like
crutch.

1519
01:09:29,537 --> 01:09:34,060
And it's so tough because when I put
myself in that kid's shoes, I'm like,

1520
01:09:34,060 --> 01:09:38,633
dude, you're putting all that like on this
kid who hasn't even doesn't know life is

1521
01:09:38,633 --> 01:09:40,445
trying to go live his own dream.

1522
01:09:40,445 --> 01:09:44,878
And it's almost like you set this kid up
for failure by using them as a crutch to

1523
01:09:44,878 --> 01:09:46,529
why you can't do what you do.

1524
01:09:46,529 --> 01:09:50,101
And then they become your you know, the
thing that you hate because they're like,

1525
01:09:50,101 --> 01:09:53,314
my god, you're the reason I can't do this,
can't do this, I can't do this.

1526
01:09:53,314 --> 01:09:55,805
Or they just become super dependent on the
kid as

1527
01:09:55,805 --> 01:09:58,977
that's their only dream and goal, which I
understand as a parent, right?

1528
01:09:58,977 --> 01:10:00,618
Like that's yours.

1529
01:10:00,618 --> 01:10:04,180
But when you do that, you take away
something special from yourself, but also

1530
01:10:04,180 --> 01:10:06,982
from that kid, you know, the potential
that they have.

1531
01:10:06,982 --> 01:10:08,102
And I think it's so important.

1532
01:10:08,102 --> 01:10:11,624
And I know it's something, Jenna, I see
you're ready to say something.

1533
01:10:13,025 --> 01:10:14,316
Dennis fired up.

1534
01:10:14,316 --> 01:10:14,716
She's ready.

1535
01:10:14,716 --> 01:10:16,139
She's like, I know exactly where you're
going.

1536
01:10:16,139 --> 01:10:16,639
see us.

1537
01:10:16,639 --> 01:10:19,532
They need to see us doing these things.

1538
01:10:19,532 --> 01:10:21,073
That's another reason.

1539
01:10:21,073 --> 01:10:29,310
They need to see you persevering and doing
hard stuff and taking care of yourself.

1540
01:10:29,310 --> 01:10:30,701
They need to learn these things.

1541
01:10:30,701 --> 01:10:32,893
Well, maybe because how can we pour belief
into them?

1542
01:10:32,893 --> 01:10:37,056
They can grow up to be whatever they want
and do whatever they want and be strong

1543
01:10:37,056 --> 01:10:37,586
and all these things.

1544
01:10:37,586 --> 01:10:40,218
And they can turn around and be like, then
why didn't you?

1545
01:10:40,679 --> 01:10:43,171
That's the biggest You never want your kid
to say that.

1546
01:10:43,171 --> 01:10:44,588
Well, then why didn't you?

1547
01:10:44,588 --> 01:10:44,998
Yeah.

1548
01:10:44,998 --> 01:10:46,069
Why aren't you doing that?

1549
01:10:46,069 --> 01:10:52,883
you being so dependent on your kid, by
you, like that's so selfish in my opinion.

1550
01:10:52,883 --> 01:10:58,477
You know, like it's so selfless to be able
to let them grow, grow up, see you living

1551
01:10:58,477 --> 01:11:03,140
and becoming the best version of yourself,
guiding them again, because they follow

1552
01:11:03,140 --> 01:11:05,531
the things that you do, not what you say.

1553
01:11:05,531 --> 01:11:08,223
So that is the most selfless way that you
can raise your kid.

1554
01:11:08,223 --> 01:11:10,444
It's not selfish by any means.

1555
01:11:11,017 --> 01:11:16,949
So something that I was told by a mentor a
very long time ago, and this gentleman,

1556
01:11:17,090 --> 01:11:19,631
was a mentor in regards to how he parented
his kids.

1557
01:11:19,631 --> 01:11:21,132
was before he even had kids.

1558
01:11:21,132 --> 01:11:24,994
He me one time, he's like, you're not
raising kids, you're raising adults.

1559
01:11:24,994 --> 01:11:28,395
Like you are raising them to be the adults
that you want them to be.

1560
01:11:28,495 --> 01:11:32,977
And to the point I want to make is like,
guys, the calling and the energy and the

1561
01:11:32,977 --> 01:11:37,830
pool that we have, children have it at
such a higher degree, right?

1562
01:11:37,830 --> 01:11:40,961
Like there's been studies done where they
test

1563
01:11:40,961 --> 01:11:44,501
from the age of like one to six years old.

1564
01:11:44,501 --> 01:11:49,761
And up until six, six and a half, like
almost like a ridiculous, like 98, 99 % of

1565
01:11:49,761 --> 01:11:53,001
children test on a genius scale, right?

1566
01:11:53,001 --> 01:11:55,241
So like they're just ridiculously
creative.

1567
01:11:55,241 --> 01:11:56,661
They're tapped into that energy field.

1568
01:11:56,661 --> 01:12:01,501
Like they're very much more energetically
aware because that is innately who we are

1569
01:12:01,501 --> 01:12:03,581
and how we were created, right?

1570
01:12:03,581 --> 01:12:08,801
Well, after seven to 13, like that starts
dipping down to like less than 1%.

1571
01:12:09,099 --> 01:12:10,060
And you wonder why.

1572
01:12:10,060 --> 01:12:13,802
And a lot of the studies done were like,
hey, like it's pointing to the education

1573
01:12:13,802 --> 01:12:18,275
systems or being told to sit still in a
classroom and, hey, don't think this is

1574
01:12:18,275 --> 01:12:21,557
what you need to remember to pass this
test and the quiz and the pressure of that

1575
01:12:21,557 --> 01:12:22,727
and all these things.

1576
01:12:22,759 --> 01:12:29,065
So the idea is as parents, like it is our
responsibility and obligation to help them

1577
01:12:29,065 --> 01:12:32,569
learn to tap into these things and not to
teach your kids manifestation on all these

1578
01:12:32,569 --> 01:12:34,972
things, but to show them what is possible.

1579
01:12:34,972 --> 01:12:35,572
Right.

1580
01:12:35,572 --> 01:12:38,724
You go back to Dino and my story and your
guys' story as well.

1581
01:12:38,724 --> 01:12:42,749
It's like we had that person in life that
we saw that broke us out of that at

1582
01:12:42,749 --> 01:12:46,335
whatever age it was of like, holy shit,
that's actually possible.

1583
01:12:46,335 --> 01:12:46,575
Right.

1584
01:12:46,575 --> 01:12:50,635
And how much more powerful is that for us
as adults and parents and friends?

1585
01:12:50,635 --> 01:12:53,215
Because if you don't have kids, it's the
same exact thing with your friend groups

1586
01:12:53,215 --> 01:12:57,695
and your circles, but to show them what's
possible and to help them tap into it so

1587
01:12:57,695 --> 01:13:01,075
that they have a head start and they don't
have to wait till they're 35 years old.

1588
01:13:01,075 --> 01:13:02,935
Like I did to start learning this stuff.

1589
01:13:02,935 --> 01:13:03,495
Right.

1590
01:13:03,495 --> 01:13:04,875
Like you think about that.

1591
01:13:04,875 --> 01:13:09,015
And then if you listen to the Terrence
Howard podcast on Joe Rogan, he talks

1592
01:13:09,015 --> 01:13:12,055
about it with, he started doing this stuff
with his baby when he was in his womb,

1593
01:13:12,055 --> 01:13:13,335
when he was in the womb.

1594
01:13:13,375 --> 01:13:17,157
Because he understood like, this is my
responsibility to like lead this kid to

1595
01:13:17,157 --> 01:13:19,738
this field of energy and possibility.

1596
01:13:19,779 --> 01:13:22,280
I'd be doing the world of disservice if I
didn't do that.

1597
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:22,630
Right.

1598
01:13:22,630 --> 01:13:26,342
So, and you don't have to go as deep and
crazy into it, but to Jenna's point, they

1599
01:13:26,342 --> 01:13:28,764
will catch way more than you ever teach.

1600
01:13:28,764 --> 01:13:29,844
What are they catching?

1601
01:13:29,844 --> 01:13:30,144
Right.

1602
01:13:30,144 --> 01:13:33,426
And it is your personal responsibility to
live an intentional life.

1603
01:13:33,426 --> 01:13:37,098
You might have to be selfish before you
can be selfless in this to be like, all

1604
01:13:37,098 --> 01:13:39,910
right, I got to get my shit right before I
can start teaching to my kid and leading

1605
01:13:39,910 --> 01:13:40,610
that way.

1606
01:13:40,610 --> 01:13:41,061
Cool.

1607
01:13:41,061 --> 01:13:41,971
Do it.

1608
01:13:42,067 --> 01:13:45,711
Cut that time in half and just freaking
get on a war path of being that for the

1609
01:13:45,711 --> 01:13:48,033
people around you because the world
depends on it.

1610
01:13:48,033 --> 01:13:51,216
And to Andy's point, personal excellence
is the ultimate rebellion.

1611
01:13:51,216 --> 01:13:53,979
Everything that's going on in the world
right now, the only way to beat it is to

1612
01:13:53,979 --> 01:13:56,912
be the absolute best version of yourself
and to help the people around you do the

1613
01:13:56,912 --> 01:13:57,682
same.

1614
01:13:57,868 --> 01:14:02,271
Well, I think that's too, I mean, it's a
huge driver also for, mean, I like I've

1615
01:14:02,271 --> 01:14:06,344
said, I'm highly emotional, highly
sensitive person.

1616
01:14:06,475 --> 01:14:10,708
and I've had to kind of figure that out,
like just through my life, I've dealt with

1617
01:14:10,708 --> 01:14:14,069
that, learned about it, whatever, like it,
especially this last year, I really dove

1618
01:14:14,069 --> 01:14:18,113
into how to manage life with it, I guess
you could say.

1619
01:14:18,354 --> 01:14:24,214
but my daughter is a carbon copy of me and
she's nine.

1620
01:14:24,214 --> 01:14:26,355
And so she is very emotional.

1621
01:14:26,355 --> 01:14:29,856
She is, and I can tell like already she's
struggling with a lot of the things that I

1622
01:14:29,856 --> 01:14:31,176
used to struggle with growing up.

1623
01:14:31,176 --> 01:14:35,958
And so like a huge piece of why I am
working on fixing myself is so that I can

1624
01:14:35,958 --> 01:14:40,259
learn and be able to teach her and help
guide her through these things and work

1625
01:14:40,259 --> 01:14:42,239
with her through that.

1626
01:14:42,460 --> 01:14:45,841
because it's been years and years and
years and years and years of me trying to

1627
01:14:45,841 --> 01:14:46,311
figure it out.

1628
01:14:46,311 --> 01:14:50,162
And it's like, if I can cut that in half
for her, you know, and help guide her and

1629
01:14:50,990 --> 01:14:54,170
teach her how to take care of herself and
manage the emotions and all the things,

1630
01:14:54,170 --> 01:14:57,510
you know, like, again, I believe that I go
through all of the stuff so that I can

1631
01:14:57,510 --> 01:14:59,290
turn around and help other people with it.

1632
01:14:59,290 --> 01:15:03,710
Like, so that's, it's 100 % true with your
kids as well.

1633
01:15:03,763 --> 01:15:07,165
Jenna, I want to give you a different view
because you've said you're emotional a

1634
01:15:07,165 --> 01:15:08,305
couple of times.

1635
01:15:09,026 --> 01:15:12,608
I think there's a superpower with that,
right?

1636
01:15:12,608 --> 01:15:16,990
I don't think that's a bad thing, you
know, because how I look at it, I think

1637
01:15:16,990 --> 01:15:21,213
being fully void of emotion is also a bad
and then also obviously like too much

1638
01:15:21,213 --> 01:15:22,764
emotion, you know, we can go back and
forth.

1639
01:15:22,764 --> 01:15:24,534
There's an economy to everything.

1640
01:15:24,655 --> 01:15:27,006
But there's there's a good thing there
too, right?

1641
01:15:27,006 --> 01:15:31,318
Because as emotions are, there's something
guiding us there, you know, so even for

1642
01:15:31,318 --> 01:15:32,539
your daughter, it's

1643
01:15:32,701 --> 01:15:34,602
Maybe she's just hyper aware of
everything.

1644
01:15:34,602 --> 01:15:37,854
And because of that, she's able to
understand how people think.

1645
01:15:37,854 --> 01:15:41,126
And she maybe has a higher emotional
intelligence, just like you that maybe you

1646
01:15:41,126 --> 01:15:44,768
just haven't fully like, solidified it,
right?

1647
01:15:44,768 --> 01:15:46,609
Or like came up with this like, all right,
cool.

1648
01:15:46,609 --> 01:15:48,259
I got it under control.

1649
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,872
But I just want to switch that because I
don't think that's a negative thing when

1650
01:15:51,872 --> 01:15:52,562
you say that.

1651
01:15:52,562 --> 01:15:54,263
And I don't think you think so

1652
01:15:54,279 --> 01:15:55,119
I agree.

1653
01:15:55,119 --> 01:15:59,551
Well, and honestly, I, that is something
too, that I've really come to terms with

1654
01:15:59,551 --> 01:16:01,771
over the last couple of months, really.

1655
01:16:02,002 --> 01:16:04,983
it's just because for the longest time, I
thought there was something wrong with me.

1656
01:16:04,983 --> 01:16:06,584
Like I thought that I was just not right.

1657
01:16:06,584 --> 01:16:11,866
Like I thought that there was mentally, I
was like, wacko, whatever.

1658
01:16:12,166 --> 01:16:16,428
and I have finally just come to the, come
to peace with the fact that like, that's

1659
01:16:16,428 --> 01:16:18,879
just who I am as a person and it's not a
bad thing.

1660
01:16:18,879 --> 01:16:22,030
It's not, it's, I don't need to change

1661
01:16:22,210 --> 01:16:26,065
But I also need to learn how to not
obviously make decisions based off of all

1662
01:16:26,065 --> 01:16:30,311
of these emotions and like learn how to
navigate life and all the things.

1663
01:16:30,311 --> 01:16:34,807
But no, I appreciate you saying that
because that's been big for me over the

1664
01:16:34,807 --> 01:16:38,533
last couple of months is I don't need to
change who I am, but.

1665
01:16:38,533 --> 01:16:39,104
percent.

1666
01:16:39,104 --> 01:16:41,456
Because it's also like when you think
about emotions, right?

1667
01:16:41,456 --> 01:16:46,530
Like, let's say like for even for example,
I think I am very emotional, right?

1668
01:16:46,530 --> 01:16:49,722
But not in the sense of like, sad, angry
or negative.

1669
01:16:49,722 --> 01:16:54,627
I'm actually very just I'm way happier
than I'm just usually like full of joy,

1670
01:16:54,627 --> 01:16:54,807
right?

1671
01:16:54,807 --> 01:16:56,038
But that's an emotion, right?

1672
01:16:56,038 --> 01:16:57,559
Happiness is an emotion.

1673
01:16:57,559 --> 01:17:01,592
And so it's like, that's why I say that
because, you know, someone who has strong

1674
01:17:01,592 --> 01:17:06,446
emotions or is emotional, it just means
they can tap into those higher levels more

1675
01:17:06,446 --> 01:17:07,357
than other people.

1676
01:17:07,357 --> 01:17:07,567
right?

1677
01:17:07,567 --> 01:17:10,269
So it's just choosing what level you want
to tap into.

1678
01:17:10,310 --> 01:17:14,944
Then I also think that like, being able to
remove emotion is so powerful if you're

1679
01:17:14,944 --> 01:17:19,207
able to still be able to like plug it in
what needed to write like, Liz, I know

1680
01:17:19,207 --> 01:17:21,879
you're like the, the like, hey, you can
step out, right?

1681
01:17:21,879 --> 01:17:25,022
But it looks like and what from what I see
is you know, when to plug in the emotion

1682
01:17:25,022 --> 01:17:26,313
when it's needed, right?

1683
01:17:26,313 --> 01:17:30,737
So it's, it's cool, because I just I say
this, because there's never a right size

1684
01:17:30,737 --> 01:17:34,430
fits all or, you know, sometimes I think
we look at things and we're like, this is

1685
01:17:34,430 --> 01:17:35,583
not something I like.

1686
01:17:35,583 --> 01:17:36,894
It's like, no, this is a superpower.

1687
01:17:36,894 --> 01:17:37,925
How can I use it?

1688
01:17:37,925 --> 01:17:41,037
You know, because even if you look at
like, I don't know if you guys seen the

1689
01:17:41,037 --> 01:17:45,350
boys or you know, some of those superhero
movies or stuff like that.

1690
01:17:45,350 --> 01:17:48,963
But I relate to that a lot because I look
at those guys and I'm like, they don't

1691
01:17:48,963 --> 01:17:50,384
just harness that power, right?

1692
01:17:50,384 --> 01:17:51,104
There's a power there.

1693
01:17:51,104 --> 01:17:53,176
And if they don't control it, it can go
bad.

1694
01:17:53,176 --> 01:17:56,198
Well, we all have that power, just it's
different for everyone.

1695
01:17:56,198 --> 01:17:59,720
It's like how you harness it, again, could
be your superpower and the way you use it,

1696
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:00,040
right?

1697
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:01,692
So I hope that all made sense.

1698
01:18:01,692 --> 01:18:04,023
But just something just throw out

1699
01:18:04,546 --> 01:18:08,847
that like, I just, I feel things very,
very, very deeply.

1700
01:18:08,847 --> 01:18:13,219
Like it's just, and I again, but it is
your super, it's your superpower for what

1701
01:18:13,219 --> 01:18:15,830
you do with helping people.

1702
01:18:15,830 --> 01:18:20,051
connect with my, I have connect with my
clients deeper than, mean, it's, it's

1703
01:18:20,051 --> 01:18:20,630
incredible.

1704
01:18:20,630 --> 01:18:23,452
The bit like relationships I'm able to
build with the people that I work with.

1705
01:18:23,452 --> 01:18:30,067
And I, I've learned that like, it's all
for good reason, you know?

1706
01:18:30,067 --> 01:18:33,809
Yeah, I think like the gift you think
about this with like the gifts that you

1707
01:18:33,809 --> 01:18:35,129
are given, right?

1708
01:18:35,129 --> 01:18:38,941
They're always going to be reflective of
who you are as a human being, right?

1709
01:18:38,941 --> 01:18:43,533
So example is like, if you just fall into
a bunch of money, if you're an evil

1710
01:18:43,533 --> 01:18:46,074
person, you're going to use that and just
do stupid shit with it.

1711
01:18:46,074 --> 01:18:50,036
If you're a great person to the DDoS
points, like one of his biggest dreams in

1712
01:18:50,036 --> 01:18:50,967
life is philanthropy.

1713
01:18:50,967 --> 01:18:53,078
It's like, man, just want to be able to
give, right?

1714
01:18:53,078 --> 01:18:54,969
So it's always going to be bounced off of
who you are.

1715
01:18:54,969 --> 01:18:56,209
And that's no different with emotions.

1716
01:18:56,209 --> 01:18:59,963
And it's understanding that if you are a
very emotional person, well,

1717
01:18:59,963 --> 01:19:04,146
God bless you because one of the keys to
manifesting the life you want is to tap

1718
01:19:04,146 --> 01:19:05,577
into that emotion.

1719
01:19:05,577 --> 01:19:09,280
So you just got to bounce it off of your
point, Jen, earlier, your true self of

1720
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:14,624
like, who am I actually, and not let those
emotions turn into an anxiety situation

1721
01:19:14,624 --> 01:19:16,285
from an outside source.

1722
01:19:16,286 --> 01:19:16,586
Right?

1723
01:19:16,586 --> 01:19:17,136
And it's wild.

1724
01:19:17,136 --> 01:19:19,128
This is something that I I heard recently.

1725
01:19:19,128 --> 01:19:22,130
And I actually man, it really kind of
rocked me a little bit.

1726
01:19:22,590 --> 01:19:26,553
But when you pray, there's two people
listening to that prayer.

1727
01:19:27,454 --> 01:19:28,893
One of them is going to answer.

1728
01:19:28,893 --> 01:19:29,183
Right?

1729
01:19:29,183 --> 01:19:33,927
So the idea there is when you pray, God's
listening and the devil's listening.

1730
01:19:33,927 --> 01:19:35,778
And one of them is always going to respond
to it.

1731
01:19:35,778 --> 01:19:40,651
And I truly believe knowing what I know is
that it comes down to where your energy is

1732
01:19:40,651 --> 01:19:41,732
when you say that prayer.

1733
01:19:41,732 --> 01:19:42,072
Right?

1734
01:19:42,072 --> 01:19:45,945
Like, are you praying because of a self
-fulfilled prophecy or something along

1735
01:19:45,945 --> 01:19:46,795
those lines?

1736
01:19:46,795 --> 01:19:50,517
Or is it a prayer of like, no, like this
is, this is a good thing, you know?

1737
01:19:50,818 --> 01:19:52,699
and that's like whatever.

1738
01:19:52,875 --> 01:19:56,447
And my personal belief is that there's
both of those energies are floating out

1739
01:19:56,447 --> 01:19:59,519
there when you say that prayer, and it's
whatever one you kind of tap into.

1740
01:19:59,519 --> 01:20:03,702
And as human beings, we are nothing more
than a basic transducer, right?

1741
01:20:03,702 --> 01:20:05,893
We could get into the pineal gland and how
all that works.

1742
01:20:05,893 --> 01:20:08,204
A lot of crazy science with that.

1743
01:20:08,204 --> 01:20:11,896
But the idea is, is you're always going to
pick up whichever radio frequency you are

1744
01:20:11,896 --> 01:20:12,989
closest to.

1745
01:20:12,989 --> 01:20:14,680
which is the idea of Jenna, your emotion.

1746
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:16,551
It's like, yes, it's a very positive
thing.

1747
01:20:16,551 --> 01:20:19,982
You just got to be more in check than most
human beings of like, all right, which

1748
01:20:19,982 --> 01:20:21,133
frequency am I on right now?

1749
01:20:21,133 --> 01:20:22,714
Is it a good frequency or a bad frequency?

1750
01:20:22,714 --> 01:20:23,794
Where is that thought coming from?

1751
01:20:23,794 --> 01:20:26,165
Is it my daughter is an external thought.

1752
01:20:26,685 --> 01:20:28,436
and it's just as simple as that.

1753
01:20:28,436 --> 01:20:32,768
And most people don't even understand
that, like I'm in control of what

1754
01:20:32,768 --> 01:20:34,279
frequency and bandwidth I get on.

1755
01:20:34,279 --> 01:20:37,851
And they don't put it in the work to
actually understand it and do it, which is

1756
01:20:37,851 --> 01:20:40,072
the whole idea of the visualization loop.

1757
01:20:40,072 --> 01:20:42,143
It's like, you create that a reality.

1758
01:20:42,143 --> 01:20:42,543
Okay.

1759
01:20:42,543 --> 01:20:42,953
I'm

1760
01:20:42,953 --> 01:20:44,995
into the whole way to the end of that
hallway.

1761
01:20:44,995 --> 01:20:47,016
My emotion is now in my control, right?

1762
01:20:47,016 --> 01:20:50,520
I'm going to tap into that frequency of
the positive emotion, not the bad stuff.

1763
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:53,683
It's going to lead to action, either
positive or negative action, which leads

1764
01:20:53,683 --> 01:20:55,105
to habits.

1765
01:20:55,105 --> 01:20:56,466
You just go around the whole loop.

1766
01:20:56,466 --> 01:20:59,709
So you get to choose what frequency you're
on is what I'm saying.

1767
01:20:59,709 --> 01:21:01,891
And a lot of people listen to the podcast.

1768
01:21:01,891 --> 01:21:03,433
You may be hearing this for the first
time.

1769
01:21:03,433 --> 01:21:03,823
Cool.

1770
01:21:03,823 --> 01:21:04,564
Take control of it.

1771
01:21:04,564 --> 01:21:05,934
Start that process.

1772
01:21:06,072 --> 01:21:08,663
Well, I'm definitely, definitely not
perfect.

1773
01:21:08,663 --> 01:21:12,795
I mean, it's been even this week, I both
probably Josh, you and Liz know more than

1774
01:21:12,795 --> 01:21:13,775
anybody.

1775
01:21:13,775 --> 01:21:17,607
both of you have like, if my energy's not
right, are very quick to check it.

1776
01:21:17,607 --> 01:21:21,789
Like Liz, I can't even tell you how many
times she's been like, do you want me to

1777
01:21:21,789 --> 01:21:22,830
truly tell you what I think?

1778
01:21:22,830 --> 01:21:24,030
And I'm like, yeah.

1779
01:21:24,030 --> 01:21:25,371
And then she'll put me in my place.

1780
01:21:25,371 --> 01:21:29,313
And then even two days ago, Josh just sent
me a message because I was venting about

1781
01:21:29,313 --> 01:21:30,613
something and he's like, check your
energy.

1782
01:21:30,613 --> 01:21:31,761
I'm like, damn it.

1783
01:21:31,761 --> 01:21:35,539
I left the exhibit about, I deleted it,
but there was an F word in there.

1784
01:21:35,539 --> 01:21:36,732
Check your fucking energy.

1785
01:21:36,732 --> 01:21:40,738
That's what I wanted to my God, I that.

1786
01:21:40,738 --> 01:21:43,119
again, it's like, I'm not perfect.

1787
01:21:43,619 --> 01:21:47,921
Sometimes it takes somebody to be like,
hey, but it doesn't take much now.

1788
01:21:47,961 --> 01:21:50,782
before, it's come a long way.

1789
01:21:50,782 --> 01:21:53,673
Because before, would be defensive.

1790
01:21:53,673 --> 01:21:54,544
would be dwelling on it.

1791
01:21:54,544 --> 01:21:57,175
It would take me a long time to come back
to that realization.

1792
01:21:57,175 --> 01:21:59,985
Now it's just like, no.

1793
01:22:00,391 --> 01:22:03,082
Well, I want to say something here and I
want this to stick because I know I've

1794
01:22:03,082 --> 01:22:04,113
told you this a bunch of times.

1795
01:22:04,113 --> 01:22:05,653
I want it to stick today.

1796
01:22:05,754 --> 01:22:09,955
Guys, fear and excitement are the exact
same thing.

1797
01:22:10,095 --> 01:22:11,476
Exact same thing.

1798
01:22:11,716 --> 01:22:16,728
So fear is is a negative emotion of
something that is unknown, right?

1799
01:22:16,728 --> 01:22:18,489
So it's easy to be fearful.

1800
01:22:18,489 --> 01:22:19,830
OK, that is not coming from God.

1801
01:22:19,830 --> 01:22:21,501
That is coming from the other radio
frequency.

1802
01:22:21,501 --> 01:22:23,081
We don't want to be on that bandwidth.

1803
01:22:23,081 --> 01:22:25,402
OK, excitement and hope.

1804
01:22:25,683 --> 01:22:26,951
Is that same thing?

1805
01:22:26,951 --> 01:22:27,281
Right?

1806
01:22:27,281 --> 01:22:30,837
It's the same exact energy, but it is a
positive scenario.

1807
01:22:30,837 --> 01:22:32,317
You still don't know.

1808
01:22:32,317 --> 01:22:32,768
Right?

1809
01:22:32,768 --> 01:22:35,270
So like, hey, faith and fear, they're the
exact same thing.

1810
01:22:35,270 --> 01:22:37,432
You have faith for something positive to
happen.

1811
01:22:37,432 --> 01:22:38,673
That energy happens.

1812
01:22:38,673 --> 01:22:41,095
You can be fearful, but it's the same
exact energy.

1813
01:22:41,095 --> 01:22:42,877
You're just on a different bandwidth.

1814
01:22:42,877 --> 01:22:46,009
So it's understanding again, and
detaching, getting out of that and saying,

1815
01:22:46,009 --> 01:22:48,151
okay, which bandwidth am I on right now?

1816
01:22:48,151 --> 01:22:49,372
I don't want to be on that bandwidth.

1817
01:22:49,372 --> 01:22:50,794
Okay, I'm going to table that.

1818
01:22:50,794 --> 01:22:52,806
I'm going to get on the positive
bandwidth.

1819
01:22:52,806 --> 01:22:54,297
What is the opportunity here?

1820
01:22:54,297 --> 01:22:58,621
What could potentially go well versus
looking at fear of loss of what could go

1821
01:22:58,621 --> 01:22:59,357
bad?

1822
01:22:59,357 --> 01:22:59,617
Right.

1823
01:22:59,617 --> 01:23:01,049
And we all live in that every day.

1824
01:23:01,049 --> 01:23:04,944
And the crazy thing is, is that those
decisions add up and the bandwidth

1825
01:23:04,944 --> 01:23:05,735
multiply.

1826
01:23:05,735 --> 01:23:07,968
it's like whatever bandwidth you're on,
just get on the other one.

1827
01:23:07,968 --> 01:23:09,499
It's a simple decision.

1828
01:23:09,941 --> 01:23:10,982
So a lot of what we do.

1829
01:23:10,982 --> 01:23:11,563
Yeah.

1830
01:23:11,563 --> 01:23:14,242
Go

1831
01:23:14,242 --> 01:23:17,556
Good Dino and Jenna don't do a podcast
together.

1832
01:23:17,737 --> 01:23:18,899
Yeah.

1833
01:23:19,562 --> 01:23:20,824
Yeah, we got this circle back.

1834
01:23:20,824 --> 01:23:23,573
think that's like a one on one discussion
with you.

1835
01:23:23,573 --> 01:23:27,546
literally read last week, I posted it my
stories, I can't remember the exact quote,

1836
01:23:27,546 --> 01:23:31,840
but it was like, self -belief and self
-doubt take the exact same amount of

1837
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:33,761
energy into the unknown.

1838
01:23:33,822 --> 01:23:37,065
And so it's like, it's just a matter of
which one are you going to choose?

1839
01:23:37,065 --> 01:23:39,546
Because they both have to deal with the
unknown.

1840
01:23:39,707 --> 01:23:42,179
So yeah, that just goes along.

1841
01:23:42,179 --> 01:23:42,707
Go ahead, T.

1842
01:23:42,707 --> 01:23:44,147
get your fucking energy, right?

1843
01:23:44,147 --> 01:23:47,307
That's exactly what I'm talking about.

1844
01:23:47,307 --> 01:23:49,807
As we were talking, two things.

1845
01:23:49,807 --> 01:23:54,607
So one thing, a lot of when it comes to
the emotional side, I highly recommend for

1846
01:23:54,607 --> 01:23:57,847
everyone, this book called Emotional
Intelligence 2 .0.

1847
01:23:57,847 --> 01:23:59,307
It's phenomenal.

1848
01:23:59,387 --> 01:24:03,327
The reason I say this is because when you
guys when a lot of us think about like,

1849
01:24:03,327 --> 01:24:06,147
intelligence, people think school smarts,
right?

1850
01:24:06,147 --> 01:24:06,907
IQ.

1851
01:24:06,907 --> 01:24:10,526
Well, there's also something called EQ,
which is emotional intelligence.

1852
01:24:10,526 --> 01:24:14,526
So just a lot of the stuff we've been
talking about, I think is a very good book

1853
01:24:14,526 --> 01:24:16,206
to dive into for anybody.

1854
01:24:16,266 --> 01:24:18,826
But another piece to exactly what we're
talking about now.

1855
01:24:18,826 --> 01:24:22,366
And it's an example from the magic of
thinking big, I think you guys have read

1856
01:24:22,366 --> 01:24:23,926
it, I'm sure you guys have read it.

1857
01:24:23,926 --> 01:24:24,686
Okay.

1858
01:24:24,826 --> 01:24:29,106
But the author, talks about he I guess he
was a professor or something of that

1859
01:24:29,106 --> 01:24:29,786
nature.

1860
01:24:29,786 --> 01:24:35,326
But he goes into the class and he's like,
Alright, guys, in 30 years, how can we,

1861
01:24:35,326 --> 01:24:39,646
you know, in 30 years, if we can get rid
of all prisons, how can we do

1862
01:24:39,807 --> 01:24:41,647
And then people are like, get rid of all
prisons.

1863
01:24:41,647 --> 01:24:42,727
Are you fucking normal?

1864
01:24:42,727 --> 01:24:43,367
Like, are you crazy?

1865
01:24:43,367 --> 01:24:45,647
There's no way there's no way you can't do
this.

1866
01:24:45,647 --> 01:24:48,727
And they gave him like 100 different
reasons as to why.

1867
01:24:48,727 --> 01:24:52,467
And he goes, Hey, guys, this is this is
exactly why I asked he's like, me he's

1868
01:24:52,467 --> 01:24:55,886
like, I understand that it's it's probably
not a the thing you can do.

1869
01:24:55,886 --> 01:24:57,927
But let's take 20 minutes.

1870
01:24:57,927 --> 01:24:59,047
And let's believe it.

1871
01:24:59,047 --> 01:25:00,527
Let's believe we can't.

1872
01:25:00,527 --> 01:25:02,287
Like, let's just believe it's possible.

1873
01:25:02,287 --> 01:25:03,607
Now, how do do it?

1874
01:25:03,607 --> 01:25:05,087
And then all of a sudden,

1875
01:25:05,087 --> 01:25:08,807
It was like, well, maybe we can start, you
know, educating more of the inner city

1876
01:25:08,807 --> 01:25:09,067
youth.

1877
01:25:09,067 --> 01:25:10,187
Maybe we can start doing it.

1878
01:25:10,187 --> 01:25:13,887
All of a sudden, these ideas came about
where before it was like, there's no

1879
01:25:13,887 --> 01:25:14,867
chance.

1880
01:25:14,987 --> 01:25:19,727
And I bring this example up because if you
can just take time to just, hey, let's say

1881
01:25:19,727 --> 01:25:22,867
it is possible, like 100 % it is possible.

1882
01:25:22,867 --> 01:25:24,467
What if, how do we do it?

1883
01:25:24,467 --> 01:25:28,627
And when you can kind of have that
creative, intelligent mindset where it's

1884
01:25:28,627 --> 01:25:30,327
just like, how do I free flow this?

1885
01:25:30,327 --> 01:25:31,467
Like, let's say it is possible.

1886
01:25:31,467 --> 01:25:32,567
How is it possible?

1887
01:25:32,567 --> 01:25:34,807
And kind of going back to the kids stages

1888
01:25:35,551 --> 01:25:39,373
You know, just being able to think
whatever right being creative being able

1889
01:25:39,373 --> 01:25:42,505
to think that anything is possible How do
we go back to that and then come up with

1890
01:25:42,505 --> 01:25:43,516
those pieces?

1891
01:25:43,516 --> 01:25:47,468
Right and the reason I say that because
our mind goes to work for us So it's like

1892
01:25:47,468 --> 01:25:52,691
whatever you believe your mind will go to
work on confirming that so Just something

1893
01:25:52,691 --> 01:25:56,233
to what we're talking about because to
Josh's point too It's like if you believe

1894
01:25:56,233 --> 01:25:59,835
you can't or if you believe there's you
know, there's no way well your mind will

1895
01:25:59,835 --> 01:26:03,827
go to work as to why there's zero possible
way you can achieve that but if you say

1896
01:26:03,827 --> 01:26:04,507
you

1897
01:26:04,765 --> 01:26:07,096
all of a sudden there's these different
ideas that just pop out.

1898
01:26:07,096 --> 01:26:10,557
seems like it's like the universe is just
dropping little things like, here you go,

1899
01:26:10,557 --> 01:26:11,617
here you go, here you go.

1900
01:26:11,617 --> 01:26:13,858
But all it takes is just that mindset
shift.

1901
01:26:13,858 --> 01:26:15,818
some of the some to throw out there.

1902
01:26:15,818 --> 01:26:21,220
It's attaching a new meaning to an
experience, and then stepping into the

1903
01:26:21,220 --> 01:26:24,121
possibility of what could potentially be
the what if, right?

1904
01:26:24,121 --> 01:26:24,621
That's it.

1905
01:26:24,621 --> 01:26:27,742
Because so many people listen, they say
like, I'm stuck in this place in life

1906
01:26:27,742 --> 01:26:31,863
because this, this, this, this, and this
happened when I tried it before, similar

1907
01:26:31,863 --> 01:26:33,245
to a weight loss journey.

1908
01:26:33,245 --> 01:26:33,465
Right.

1909
01:26:33,465 --> 01:26:34,595
It's like, I've tried everything.

1910
01:26:34,595 --> 01:26:34,936
Okay.

1911
01:26:34,936 --> 01:26:38,767
Well, if you were to give it a go again,
what things would you do differently?

1912
01:26:38,767 --> 01:26:39,657
I'll do this, this and this.

1913
01:26:39,657 --> 01:26:40,037
Cool.

1914
01:26:40,037 --> 01:26:42,818
You've just created the pathway of how
you're going to achieve this.

1915
01:26:42,818 --> 01:26:43,088
Right.

1916
01:26:43,088 --> 01:26:46,049
And all it takes is attaching a new
meaning and that little bit of belief to

1917
01:26:46,049 --> 01:26:47,380
spark that fire.

1918
01:26:47,380 --> 01:26:50,761
Again, belief is an emotion and we can go
through the visualization loop and the

1919
01:26:50,761 --> 01:26:51,741
whole process.

1920
01:26:51,741 --> 01:26:54,822
It all starts with a thought, which is an
energy frequency.

1921
01:26:55,142 --> 01:26:57,213
It always comes back to that.

1922
01:26:57,213 --> 01:26:58,343
are, not what you want.

1923
01:26:58,343 --> 01:26:59,554
attract, I mean, that's the thing.

1924
01:26:59,554 --> 01:27:04,196
So if you are giving out like self doubt,
like you're going to attract that again,

1925
01:27:04,196 --> 01:27:09,269
like to your point, like you just, your
mind goes to work for you to find reasons

1926
01:27:09,269 --> 01:27:10,609
to doubt yourself.

1927
01:27:12,064 --> 01:27:12,944
All right, let's do this.

1928
01:27:12,944 --> 01:27:13,484
Are you good?

1929
01:27:13,484 --> 01:27:15,845
Yeah, yeah, actually, I am a quick thing.

1930
01:27:15,845 --> 01:27:19,617
I want to ask you guys, you guys have
people in your life that and I feel like

1931
01:27:19,617 --> 01:27:22,818
all of us have that one person that's
like, my god, here we go again.

1932
01:27:22,818 --> 01:27:23,648
This happened to me.

1933
01:27:23,648 --> 01:27:27,190
It's always like there's always something
bad that happens to those people.

1934
01:27:27,190 --> 01:27:27,490
Right?

1935
01:27:27,490 --> 01:27:29,390
Like you guys have those people in your
lives?

1936
01:27:30,351 --> 01:27:34,343
used to how often are they actually right
in their thinking?

1937
01:27:34,343 --> 01:27:35,893
Or is it actually them?

1938
01:27:36,053 --> 01:27:40,255
Like how often is it the person and it's
not just like, the world's giving me

1939
01:27:40,755 --> 01:27:41,996
I hope that makes sense.

1940
01:27:41,996 --> 01:27:44,968
You know, like you can tell based on their
mindset, what's going to happen if that

1941
01:27:44,968 --> 01:27:45,938
makes sense.

1942
01:27:46,078 --> 01:27:51,531
Like I have, like, for example, I have a
friend who, you know, constantly something

1943
01:27:51,531 --> 01:27:53,403
comes up like, my God, this happened.

1944
01:27:53,403 --> 01:27:54,363
I got this stolen.

1945
01:27:54,363 --> 01:27:56,184
I got this, I got this.

1946
01:27:56,204 --> 01:27:59,456
And then when you kind of look at them and
their mindset, it's like, bro, all you

1947
01:27:59,456 --> 01:28:00,917
think about is negativity.

1948
01:28:00,917 --> 01:28:01,858
All you do is complain.

1949
01:28:01,858 --> 01:28:02,408
All you do this.

1950
01:28:02,408 --> 01:28:04,059
And it's like, that's not a surprise.

1951
01:28:04,059 --> 01:28:07,791
Do you guys have those people or have you
guys witnessed those people

1952
01:28:08,428 --> 01:28:08,758
Yeah.

1953
01:28:08,758 --> 01:28:09,088
Yeah.

1954
01:28:09,088 --> 01:28:14,640
I mean, but then again, I would also say
like, when they have that energy, yes,

1955
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:16,381
they're attracting more of that into their
lives.

1956
01:28:16,381 --> 01:28:19,002
But I also think that if they were to have
different energy and that shit were to

1957
01:28:19,002 --> 01:28:24,624
happen, it wouldn't be given the same
amount of attention or energy.

1958
01:28:24,624 --> 01:28:25,194
You know I mean?

1959
01:28:25,194 --> 01:28:26,575
Like it wouldn't be treated the same way.

1960
01:28:26,575 --> 01:28:27,545
If that kind of makes sense.

1961
01:28:27,545 --> 01:28:30,346
Like, I broke my phone

1962
01:28:30,346 --> 01:28:30,856
Okay, cool.

1963
01:28:30,856 --> 01:28:32,197
We'll get a new one or shit.

1964
01:28:32,197 --> 01:28:33,238
I cracked my phone.

1965
01:28:33,238 --> 01:28:33,608
my God.

1966
01:28:33,608 --> 01:28:34,328
The world is ending.

1967
01:28:34,328 --> 01:28:35,119
Like what am going to do?

1968
01:28:35,119 --> 01:28:35,800
How am I going to work?

1969
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:36,670
How am I going to do that?

1970
01:28:36,670 --> 01:28:40,223
Like all the things like it's you attach
the meaning of it that you want.

1971
01:28:40,223 --> 01:28:44,606
So some two people could live the exact
same life and one person could just like

1972
01:28:44,606 --> 01:28:45,967
keep dwelling all the bad shit.

1973
01:28:45,967 --> 01:28:48,999
And then the next person could be looking
at all the blessings that they have and

1974
01:28:48,999 --> 01:28:50,340
have gratitude for everything.

1975
01:28:50,340 --> 01:28:54,243
So it's like, I think yes, those people
create that for themselves.

1976
01:28:54,243 --> 01:28:57,805
They, I mean, yeah, there's probably an
element of attracting more of it, but it's

1977
01:28:57,805 --> 01:28:59,586
also the attention that they give

1978
01:29:00,179 --> 01:29:02,481
the perspective of to me or for me.

1979
01:29:02,481 --> 01:29:04,292
Because I mean, I could use my own example
for that.

1980
01:29:04,292 --> 01:29:08,446
When my mom died, my sister went
completely off the rails and literally,

1981
01:29:08,446 --> 01:29:13,370
like, intentionally tried to recreate the
life that my mom lived so that she would

1982
01:29:13,370 --> 01:29:16,233
have the same outcome, like literally went
down that same path.

1983
01:29:16,233 --> 01:29:16,512
Right.

1984
01:29:16,512 --> 01:29:20,346
For me, I looked at it as like, okay, how
am I going to help other people through it

1985
01:29:20,346 --> 01:29:21,327
when they lose their mom?

1986
01:29:21,327 --> 01:29:24,990
What emotions and experiences should I
take through this to understand like how

1987
01:29:24,990 --> 01:29:27,842
this plays out so that I can give that
experience to other people in their

1988
01:29:27,842 --> 01:29:28,637
journey?

1989
01:29:28,637 --> 01:29:31,878
And this happened before I even understood
manifestation, all these things, right?

1990
01:29:31,878 --> 01:29:34,809
So it's a, is this happening to me or is
it happening for me?

1991
01:29:34,809 --> 01:29:36,910
It's a really simple energy shift.

1992
01:29:37,210 --> 01:29:38,180
Find that silver lining.

1993
01:29:38,180 --> 01:29:40,071
Cause there's a silver lining in
everything.

1994
01:29:40,071 --> 01:29:41,051
Always.

1995
01:29:42,372 --> 01:29:43,762
What would be the number one thing?

1996
01:29:43,762 --> 01:29:46,103
Cause I know Dino's look, you have to get
out of your work.

1997
01:29:46,103 --> 01:29:46,944
Yeah.

1998
01:29:46,944 --> 01:29:48,364
So I want to talk.

1999
01:29:48,364 --> 01:29:51,335
I want you guys to dive into like, all

2000
01:29:51,527 --> 01:29:54,330
You guys have been through a lot on your
experience and your journey.

2001
01:29:54,330 --> 01:29:57,293
Like what is one tip or piece of advice?

2002
01:29:57,293 --> 01:30:00,927
And if it spawns into like a couple little
things here and there, like somebody just

2003
01:30:00,927 --> 01:30:03,600
starting this journey out of like, man,
I'm just trying to be better, but the

2004
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:05,542
world's pulling me in this direction.

2005
01:30:05,542 --> 01:30:08,655
I'm trying to be better, but this keeps
happening every time I get a couple of

2006
01:30:08,655 --> 01:30:09,336
steps ahead.

2007
01:30:09,336 --> 01:30:10,948
Like I get knocked down one.

2008
01:30:10,948 --> 01:30:16,362
What is your number one piece of advice or
tips for people like that?

2009
01:30:16,362 --> 01:30:17,602
Can I go?

2010
01:30:18,163 --> 01:30:22,274
I mean, I like, this is what I this is I
have a lot of people that I'm coaching

2011
01:30:22,274 --> 01:30:23,515
that are just starting their journey.

2012
01:30:23,515 --> 01:30:27,717
And so yesterday, we were literally almost
to the top of the mountain, I pulled out

2013
01:30:27,717 --> 01:30:34,600
my phone and recorded a video of this
message because this this helped me going

2014
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:35,210
up the mountain.

2015
01:30:35,210 --> 01:30:39,802
It was literally like, stop looking
because I think maybe someone that's brand

2016
01:30:39,802 --> 01:30:42,383
new to their journey could listen to this
episode and be like, Holy shit.

2017
01:30:42,383 --> 01:30:45,294
Okay, there's so much that I have to focus
on right

2018
01:30:45,480 --> 01:30:48,351
or there's so many things that I need to
be doing.

2019
01:30:48,351 --> 01:30:51,422
It's like, stop looking at how far you
have to go.

2020
01:30:51,422 --> 01:30:52,582
Cause that was my problem.

2021
01:30:52,582 --> 01:30:55,753
When I was climbing that mountain, I kept
looking up and I was like, my God, those

2022
01:30:55,753 --> 01:30:56,753
people look like ants.

2023
01:30:56,753 --> 01:30:57,753
I'm never going to get there.

2024
01:30:57,753 --> 01:31:03,335
Like I started to like talk myself out of
it and stop looking at how far you have to

2025
01:31:03,335 --> 01:31:03,875
go.

2026
01:31:03,875 --> 01:31:08,817
Just put your head down, keep your eyes
forward and take it one step at a time.

2027
01:31:08,817 --> 01:31:13,038
Like I, I literally had to keep reminding
myself of that.

2028
01:31:13,038 --> 01:31:14,274
And I think that's

2029
01:31:14,274 --> 01:31:16,095
That's my biggest piece of advice today.

2030
01:31:16,095 --> 01:31:20,977
And no matter what you are working
towards, because I still am guilty of I

2031
01:31:20,977 --> 01:31:23,329
have goals and they're big and they're
scary.

2032
01:31:23,329 --> 01:31:27,641
And I look at that and I think of how far
I have to go until I get there.

2033
01:31:27,641 --> 01:31:31,773
And I start to talk myself out of it or
you know, that negative self talk comes

2034
01:31:31,773 --> 01:31:32,563
in.

2035
01:31:32,844 --> 01:31:33,884
Stop doing that.

2036
01:31:33,884 --> 01:31:35,985
So that is my biggest piece of advice.

2037
01:31:35,985 --> 01:31:37,942
Don't look at how far you have to go.

2038
01:31:37,942 --> 01:31:42,514
Yes, Josh talks about the North Star and
you should have a goal in mind that you're

2039
01:31:42,514 --> 01:31:43,324
working towards.

2040
01:31:43,324 --> 01:31:48,217
But instead of like when that thought like
starts creeping in of, my gosh, I have so

2041
01:31:48,217 --> 01:31:49,447
far to go.

2042
01:31:50,408 --> 01:31:55,250
Take a step back and put your head down,
keep your eyes forward and one step at a

2043
01:31:55,250 --> 01:31:55,590
time.

2044
01:31:55,590 --> 01:31:57,971
Just make one good choice at a time.

2045
01:31:57,971 --> 01:32:00,432
One thing at a time that's gonna move you
in the right direction.

2046
01:32:00,432 --> 01:32:03,713
And then it feels a lot less overwhelming.

2047
01:32:04,243 --> 01:32:09,307
And that point, like when you stop down
and you get complacent because of how far

2048
01:32:09,307 --> 01:32:12,810
you have to go, you're literally operating
in the future.

2049
01:32:12,810 --> 01:32:13,851
Like there is no future.

2050
01:32:13,851 --> 01:32:14,902
We've already decided this.

2051
01:32:14,902 --> 01:32:15,472
Right.

2052
01:32:15,472 --> 01:32:19,425
So it's, it's easy to look so far ahead
and be like, my God, that's so far away.

2053
01:32:19,425 --> 01:32:19,746
Cool.

2054
01:32:19,746 --> 01:32:21,357
Just be that right now.

2055
01:32:21,457 --> 01:32:21,827
Right.

2056
01:32:21,827 --> 01:32:24,860
Like you knew that in order to get to the
top of the mountain, all you had to do was

2057
01:32:24,860 --> 01:32:25,741
walk up it.

2058
01:32:25,741 --> 01:32:26,151
Right.

2059
01:32:26,151 --> 01:32:28,402
So in the moment, I'm just going to walk.

2060
01:32:28,797 --> 01:32:30,668
Eventually I'll get there, right?

2061
01:32:30,668 --> 01:32:33,921
And my second thought with this, and this
is something I wanna share, but it's a

2062
01:32:33,921 --> 01:32:37,473
good time to throw it in, is what if you
don't?

2063
01:32:38,234 --> 01:32:38,605
Right?

2064
01:32:38,605 --> 01:32:41,757
So you have like all this way to go in
your journey or to become the person you

2065
01:32:41,757 --> 01:32:42,488
ultimately wanna become.

2066
01:32:42,488 --> 01:32:44,459
Well, what happens if you don't?

2067
01:32:45,405 --> 01:32:49,239
You know, and as human beings, we need to
start operating out of that fear.

2068
01:32:49,239 --> 01:32:53,663
Because I think as humans, we have a
misplaced fear of like, look at it from a

2069
01:32:53,663 --> 01:32:54,704
fitness journey standpoint.

2070
01:32:54,704 --> 01:32:57,596
Well, I'm afraid to give this up and this
up and this up.

2071
01:32:57,596 --> 01:33:01,230
And I'm also afraid that once I start
this, I'm going to have to keep doing it.

2072
01:33:01,230 --> 01:33:05,354
Okay, well, what if you don't, you should
be more afraid of that than you should be

2073
01:33:05,354 --> 01:33:06,935
of the things that are here.

2074
01:33:06,995 --> 01:33:07,356
Right.

2075
01:33:07,356 --> 01:33:10,838
So and if you can do that, to that point,
it's like, what if I don't?

2076
01:33:11,079 --> 01:33:13,320
If I don't, then I don't reach the top of
the mountain.

2077
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:16,642
The mission that I set out on failed and I
let my friend down because she came out

2078
01:33:16,642 --> 01:33:18,083
here to do this mountain with me.

2079
01:33:18,083 --> 01:33:21,475
And I don't get the benefit of actually
climbing up there and seeing the beautiful

2080
01:33:21,475 --> 01:33:22,786
view from the top.

2081
01:33:22,866 --> 01:33:24,247
That's what happens if you don't.

2082
01:33:24,247 --> 01:33:27,669
So instead of looking at the future self
of like, man, it's like another hour to

2083
01:33:27,669 --> 01:33:31,162
get to the top, the fall summit, that
whole thing throws people off on huge

2084
01:33:31,162 --> 01:33:31,712
mountains.

2085
01:33:31,712 --> 01:33:34,914
So you know, like I'm just gonna keep my
feet moving, right?

2086
01:33:34,914 --> 01:33:36,615
Because that's all I have.

2087
01:33:37,326 --> 01:33:42,166
Like I said earlier, reminding yourself
that those ants at the top, they're proof

2088
01:33:42,166 --> 01:33:43,426
that they did it.

2089
01:33:43,826 --> 01:33:45,606
People have climbed this mountain.

2090
01:33:45,606 --> 01:33:46,906
Remember that.

2091
01:33:47,226 --> 01:33:51,006
Just because it feels impossible to you,
it's possible.

2092
01:33:51,006 --> 01:33:53,766
Someone else has done it, and that's
another thing.

2093
01:33:53,766 --> 01:33:58,146
We see 50 -year -olds passing this up, and
I'm like, okay, they've done it.

2094
01:33:58,146 --> 01:33:59,406
They have gotten to the top.

2095
01:33:59,406 --> 01:34:01,066
I 100 % can do this.

2096
01:34:01,066 --> 01:34:04,006
Somebody passed us who was wearing
sandals.

2097
01:34:04,226 --> 01:34:04,932
Sandals.

2098
01:34:04,932 --> 01:34:06,133
Yeah, you could do anything.

2099
01:34:06,133 --> 01:34:08,495
You could do anything at that point.

2100
01:34:08,596 --> 01:34:13,660
And to the point, the point, you know,
made on a couple of different podcasts

2101
01:34:13,660 --> 01:34:14,901
about the pathway.

2102
01:34:14,901 --> 01:34:19,154
It's like, and that's proof right there is
that you guys had a walkway to walk up

2103
01:34:19,154 --> 01:34:23,108
this mountain, maybe not a set of steps,
but it wasn't just overgrown with trees

2104
01:34:23,108 --> 01:34:25,170
and huge rocks that were never camped
down.

2105
01:34:25,170 --> 01:34:27,862
It's like thousands of people have gone
this way.

2106
01:34:27,862 --> 01:34:29,924
So it's like the path has been created for
you.

2107
01:34:29,924 --> 01:34:32,871
All you got to do is keep moving.

2108
01:34:32,871 --> 01:34:33,813
Love that.

2109
01:34:35,421 --> 01:34:38,094
so I think that mine kind of ties into
that a little bit.

2110
01:34:38,094 --> 01:34:40,516
mean, because, I mean, we were hiking for
a long time.

2111
01:34:40,516 --> 01:34:44,100
I had a lot of time in my mind going
through things and thinking about things

2112
01:34:44,100 --> 01:34:48,175
relating it to, because we couldn't talk
to each other.

2113
01:34:48,175 --> 01:34:49,146
was really sad.

2114
01:34:49,146 --> 01:34:50,216
couldn't physically

2115
01:34:50,216 --> 01:34:50,807
talking today.

2116
01:34:50,807 --> 01:34:52,884
You're like, I didn't talk all day
yesterday.

2117
01:34:52,884 --> 01:34:53,265
We're getting out.

2118
01:34:53,265 --> 01:34:54,315
All of it's gone now.

2119
01:34:54,315 --> 01:34:55,117
so out of breath.

2120
01:34:55,117 --> 01:34:58,275
There was one point we got to where we
were starting to talk about something that

2121
01:34:58,275 --> 01:35:02,234
happened over Summer Smash and we were
laughing so hard and we were like, stop

2122
01:35:02,234 --> 01:35:02,585
laughing.

2123
01:35:02,585 --> 01:35:03,897
I'm getting dizzy.

2124
01:35:05,184 --> 01:35:05,986
that's

2125
01:35:06,476 --> 01:35:09,287
Okay, carry on.

2126
01:35:09,287 --> 01:35:11,448
Anyway, this is kind what I was thinking.

2127
01:35:12,128 --> 01:35:16,430
It's just part of the freaking journey
because the reason that it's hard is

2128
01:35:16,430 --> 01:35:19,111
because you don't want it to be easy.

2129
01:35:19,111 --> 01:35:20,812
Easy accomplishes nothing.

2130
01:35:20,812 --> 01:35:23,273
If it were easy, then you would have done
it before.

2131
01:35:23,273 --> 01:35:27,345
And it's like, again, I was kind of tying
this into process over outcome as we were

2132
01:35:27,345 --> 01:35:33,318
climbing this mountain because I was like,
as we're going through the trail to do it,

2133
01:35:33,318 --> 01:35:34,648
there were points where we were

2134
01:35:34,648 --> 01:35:38,449
We were going even downhill at one point,
then we'd go up real hard and then we'd

2135
01:35:38,449 --> 01:35:39,039
flatten out.

2136
01:35:39,039 --> 01:35:41,510
And it's like, there's all these different
points of the journey where you can kind

2137
01:35:41,510 --> 01:35:43,270
of, okay, I can catch my breath at this
point.

2138
01:35:43,270 --> 01:35:43,480
Okay.

2139
01:35:43,480 --> 01:35:47,331
This part's a little bit harder, but you
embrace all of it you learn through it and

2140
01:35:47,331 --> 01:35:52,663
you get better through all of it to make
it to the top, to the peak of the mountain

2141
01:35:52,663 --> 01:35:58,034
where you are so freaking accomplished,
like, and you have so much pride and you

2142
01:35:58,034 --> 01:35:59,385
freaking did that.

2143
01:35:59,385 --> 01:36:04,332
And so I was thinking in my head, like
what I'm gaining from the actual climb.

2144
01:36:04,332 --> 01:36:06,593
is so much better than even being at the
peak.

2145
01:36:06,593 --> 01:36:10,335
Because if I were to hop on a helicopter
and somebody were to just take me up to

2146
01:36:10,335 --> 01:36:13,406
the top just to see the views, like,
that's cool.

2147
01:36:13,406 --> 01:36:13,876
Okay.

2148
01:36:13,876 --> 01:36:15,326
Let's go back down.

2149
01:36:16,007 --> 01:36:19,048
different experience from me climbing it
myself.

2150
01:36:19,048 --> 01:36:24,261
So I think when people are on whatever
journey that they're on and they come

2151
01:36:24,261 --> 01:36:26,272
through hardships, like it's just part of
it.

2152
01:36:26,272 --> 01:36:27,572
That's where you become better.

2153
01:36:27,572 --> 01:36:32,214
That's where you become the person that
you are trying to

2154
01:36:32,614 --> 01:36:33,775
That's where you grow.

2155
01:36:33,775 --> 01:36:35,636
You're not going to grow if you're not
challenged.

2156
01:36:35,636 --> 01:36:39,718
If that was a freaking five, that wouldn't
be a five mile hike if it was just flat

2157
01:36:39,718 --> 01:36:40,219
land.

2158
01:36:40,219 --> 01:36:42,610
I would have no sense of accomplishment.

2159
01:36:42,610 --> 01:36:45,762
I would have no pride, no self -confidence
after that.

2160
01:36:45,762 --> 01:36:49,984
It's the hard shit that you will continue
to do, you continue to overcome throughout

2161
01:36:49,984 --> 01:36:54,066
the process that creates the person that
you're meant to be.

2162
01:36:54,427 --> 01:36:59,978
I would say, it's just something that I
have grown to embrace.

2163
01:36:59,978 --> 01:37:03,210
over the last couple of years throughout
my own journey is just like hard shit

2164
01:37:03,210 --> 01:37:05,011
comes and it's, have to embrace it.

2165
01:37:05,011 --> 01:37:06,081
You have to charge it.

2166
01:37:06,081 --> 01:37:08,973
You have to grow through it because
there's a reason that you're going through

2167
01:37:08,973 --> 01:37:13,065
the harder parts and it's to get you to
further ahead.

2168
01:37:13,065 --> 01:37:16,356
You know, it's like you don't climb the
hard shit on the mountain only to end up

2169
01:37:16,356 --> 01:37:16,997
at the bottom.

2170
01:37:16,997 --> 01:37:19,448
Like you climb it to move further ahead.

2171
01:37:19,448 --> 01:37:21,388
You know, you climb it to move up.

2172
01:37:21,389 --> 01:37:24,170
So if I were to hit that hard climb and
been

2173
01:37:25,090 --> 01:37:27,512
I'm just going to turn around and go
back." Like, no, I didn't come this far to

2174
01:37:27,512 --> 01:37:28,323
only come this far.

2175
01:37:28,323 --> 01:37:30,545
I came this far to freaking get to the
top.

2176
01:37:30,545 --> 01:37:31,736
Like, I'm going to keep going.

2177
01:37:31,736 --> 01:37:33,498
Like, this is part of it, you know?

2178
01:37:33,498 --> 01:37:37,491
So that was what I was reflecting on
yesterday as we were climbing and I was

2179
01:37:37,491 --> 01:37:41,545
just in my head for three straight hours,
which is scary, And we had quitting off

2180
01:37:41,545 --> 01:37:44,567
the table, which we talk about all the
time, but quitting was not an option.

2181
01:37:44,567 --> 01:37:45,467
Yeah.

2182
01:37:45,528 --> 01:37:47,725
So… Quitting was not an option and it
shouldn't be.

2183
01:37:47,725 --> 01:37:50,777
are quitting off the table, there was no
other way but to finish it.

2184
01:37:50,777 --> 01:37:52,878
So it's like, you guys are gonna figure it
out.

2185
01:37:53,059 --> 01:37:56,651
I think it's exactly what Jenna you're
saying is, is if you make comfortable

2186
01:37:56,651 --> 01:38:00,183
decisions, comfortable decisions, you're
gonna have a hard time.

2187
01:38:00,183 --> 01:38:03,585
If you make uncomfortable decisions,
you're gonna have an easier time.

2188
01:38:03,585 --> 01:38:06,447
It's, you know, at the end of the day,
you're gonna choose your hard.

2189
01:38:06,447 --> 01:38:08,768
And it's like, it's gonna be hard
regardless.

2190
01:38:08,768 --> 01:38:12,550
It's like, but if you can control that
hard and you choose it yourself, the other

2191
01:38:12,550 --> 01:38:14,271
end is a lot easier than it

2192
01:38:14,483 --> 01:38:17,655
to choose easy now and then have hard for
the rest of your life.

2193
01:38:17,836 --> 01:38:22,111
Yeah, there is actually a episode called
Choosing Your Heart on When Mamas Rise Up

2194
01:38:22,111 --> 01:38:24,534
available on Spotify and Apple Podcast.

2195
01:38:24,534 --> 01:38:25,755
Check it out.

2196
01:38:26,304 --> 01:38:26,975
Let's go.

2197
01:38:26,975 --> 01:38:30,877
The correlation I want to make to the
mountain, right?

2198
01:38:30,877 --> 01:38:33,059
Life is exactly the same way, right?

2199
01:38:33,059 --> 01:38:36,841
Because every single day, God willing,
we're going to wake up, we're going to go

2200
01:38:36,841 --> 01:38:38,493
through life, we're going to do all these
things.

2201
01:38:38,493 --> 01:38:42,655
And before you know it, we've lived a
lifetime worth of days, right?

2202
01:38:42,776 --> 01:38:47,579
You guys walking five miles versus
climbing a mountain for five miles, the

2203
01:38:47,579 --> 01:38:49,520
process was exactly the same.

2204
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:52,973
All you did was if you're walking five
miles on flat land, you're taking one step

2205
01:38:52,973 --> 01:38:53,951
after the other.

2206
01:38:53,951 --> 01:38:56,482
You're looking around, you're enjoying the
views, you're looking over your shoulder,

2207
01:38:56,482 --> 01:38:57,832
make sure your car is not coming.

2208
01:38:57,832 --> 01:39:00,643
The process is literally no different if
you climb a mountain.

2209
01:39:00,643 --> 01:39:02,193
You're taking one step at a time.

2210
01:39:02,193 --> 01:39:04,554
You're looking around, looking at the
surroundings.

2211
01:39:04,554 --> 01:39:06,295
Life is the exact same way.

2212
01:39:06,295 --> 01:39:08,115
The only difference goes back to what I
talked about.

2213
01:39:08,115 --> 01:39:10,916
Hey, we're gonna choose to do this because
it's gonna be worth it.

2214
01:39:10,916 --> 01:39:12,526
There's something at the end of this.

2215
01:39:12,526 --> 01:39:13,897
We don't even know what that is.

2216
01:39:13,897 --> 01:39:17,178
We don't know if we're gonna make it, but
we're gonna just go and just give it our

2217
01:39:17,178 --> 01:39:19,778
best because all it is is that it's one
step at a time.

2218
01:39:19,778 --> 01:39:22,143
Hey, life, guys, is exact same way.

2219
01:39:22,143 --> 01:39:25,923
Don't live your life for the next 30, 40
years unintentionally without aiming for

2220
01:39:25,923 --> 01:39:29,143
something, because you're going to live
that life one way the other.

2221
01:39:29,143 --> 01:39:32,483
Why not make it so that you get to that
point and you're never gonna get to the

2222
01:39:32,483 --> 01:39:36,663
end point, but get the absolute best views
you possibly can along the way and

2223
01:39:36,663 --> 01:39:38,223
understand audit is a simple

2224
01:39:39,214 --> 01:39:39,854
100%.

2225
01:39:39,854 --> 01:39:42,854
We had no idea how beautiful that view was
going to be at the end.

2226
01:39:42,854 --> 01:39:43,694
exactly.

2227
01:39:43,694 --> 01:39:45,514
And it was worth it.

2228
01:39:45,514 --> 01:39:46,234
It was beautiful.

2229
01:39:46,234 --> 01:39:46,954
It was amazing.

2230
01:39:46,954 --> 01:39:47,754
Yeah.

2231
01:39:47,754 --> 01:39:49,222
Just like you just said.

2232
01:39:49,222 --> 01:39:51,316
I made a joke, but I do need to know for
real.

2233
01:39:51,316 --> 01:39:55,483
Like, did you guys see any Sasquatch
sightings or markings or anything?

2234
01:39:55,500 --> 01:39:55,700
No.

2235
01:39:55,700 --> 01:39:56,590
Markings maybe.

2236
01:39:56,590 --> 01:39:57,021
Yeah.

2237
01:39:57,021 --> 01:39:59,152
We saw a lot of mountain goats, actually.

2238
01:39:59,152 --> 01:40:01,302
were a lot of mountain goats.

2239
01:40:01,302 --> 01:40:02,923
Like, in front of Two feet away from us.

2240
01:40:02,923 --> 01:40:03,833
They had no fear.

2241
01:40:03,833 --> 01:40:04,864
They gave zero fucks.

2242
01:40:04,864 --> 01:40:06,084
They were like sharing the path with us.

2243
01:40:06,084 --> 01:40:06,415
Yeah.

2244
01:40:06,415 --> 01:40:07,295
Like, they didn't care.

2245
01:40:07,295 --> 01:40:07,955
Yeah.

2246
01:40:07,955 --> 01:40:12,127
But that's, well, they're just called,
Pika's.

2247
01:40:12,127 --> 01:40:12,267
Pika's.

2248
01:40:12,267 --> 01:40:12,747
Pika's.

2249
01:40:12,747 --> 01:40:15,948
We talked to some people and they taught
us what… They were like mountain rats.

2250
01:40:15,948 --> 01:40:16,599
Mountain rats.

2251
01:40:16,599 --> 01:40:19,500
They were like just screwing around, but
no.

2252
01:40:19,500 --> 01:40:21,080
No Sasquatch sightings.

2253
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:22,941
It's too high up for him.

2254
01:40:22,941 --> 01:40:23,407
Yeah.

2255
01:40:23,407 --> 01:40:24,207
think it is.

2256
01:40:24,207 --> 01:40:27,227
think that that's probably where he wants
to be.

2257
01:40:27,367 --> 01:40:28,047
Bullshit.

2258
01:40:28,047 --> 01:40:28,327
All right.

2259
01:40:28,327 --> 01:40:31,607
Well, as we've been at this for about an
hour and 40 minutes, and I think this is

2260
01:40:31,607 --> 01:40:35,587
chalk to the value, we could continue
adding value, but this is clearly going to

2261
01:40:35,587 --> 01:40:38,547
be a second episode because there's a lot
we didn't get into that I wanted to.

2262
01:40:38,547 --> 01:40:42,727
Oh But as we kind of wrap this up, and I
want you guys to tell people how they can

2263
01:40:42,727 --> 01:40:46,647
connect with you as well, but we're very
big on books on the podcast.

2264
01:40:46,647 --> 01:40:49,527
So I know we've referenced a couple here,
but

2265
01:40:49,828 --> 01:40:54,009
not currently where you're at books, but
books that made a really big impact on you

2266
01:40:54,009 --> 01:40:57,968
earlier in this process of you guys
becoming where you're at now.

2267
01:40:58,090 --> 01:41:00,322
What do

2268
01:41:00,322 --> 01:41:04,304
I would say probably one of my all time
favorites is The Breakthrough Code.

2269
01:41:04,304 --> 01:41:07,106
I think you've probably talked about it on
here before.

2270
01:41:07,106 --> 01:41:10,418
Especially if you're just starting out,
because I remember starting to read self

2271
01:41:10,418 --> 01:41:15,370
-development books, was like, because I
was very a fictional reader for a long

2272
01:41:15,370 --> 01:41:15,911
time.

2273
01:41:15,911 --> 01:41:20,003
So that was a very good transition book
that was self -development, but also kind

2274
01:41:20,003 --> 01:41:22,334
of told a story so it was very easy to
read.

2275
01:41:22,334 --> 01:41:26,056
And the message that it gets across in
that book is incredible.

2276
01:41:26,056 --> 01:41:28,318
So that's probably one that I recommend.

2277
01:41:28,318 --> 01:41:29,069
I think a really

2278
01:41:29,069 --> 01:41:33,122
the things guys with Jenna, I'll pay her a
compliment here in real time.

2279
01:41:33,522 --> 01:41:37,165
She keeps me on my toes with reading
because like a lot of the people around me

2280
01:41:37,165 --> 01:41:40,587
that I mentor, they'll only read the books
that I recommend to them.

2281
01:41:41,008 --> 01:41:44,951
And like I recommend a lot of books, so I
understand, but she does a really good job

2282
01:41:44,951 --> 01:41:48,365
of getting outside and finding other books
that are very valuable and then passing

2283
01:41:48,365 --> 01:41:49,356
those along.

2284
01:41:49,356 --> 01:41:51,258
However, with the Breakthrough Code, she
didn't do that.

2285
01:41:51,258 --> 01:41:54,811
She read that book and was changed by it,
but she never actually told me about it

2286
01:41:54,811 --> 01:41:56,423
until I was like, hey, have you read it?

2287
01:41:56,423 --> 01:41:58,435
And you were like, yeah, that book was
amazing.

2288
01:41:58,435 --> 01:42:00,625
And I'm like, wait a minute, you didn't
tell me about this book.

2289
01:42:00,625 --> 01:42:01,355
no, no.

2290
01:42:01,355 --> 01:42:03,576
that is the biggest bullshit lie ever.

2291
01:42:03,576 --> 01:42:07,398
I told you about that book and it took
forever to know.

2292
01:42:07,398 --> 01:42:11,401
I told you about it and you didn't read it
for a long time after I told you.

2293
01:42:11,401 --> 01:42:13,332
And then you were like, wow, this is
great.

2294
01:42:13,332 --> 01:42:18,004
And then you started recommending it to
everybody acting like it was your idea.

2295
01:42:18,004 --> 01:42:20,485
And I'm like, no, I read that first.

2296
01:42:24,770 --> 01:42:27,315
You are such a liar.

2297
01:42:27,999 --> 01:42:30,564
We did agree to not fight on this podcast,

2298
01:42:36,024 --> 01:42:36,656
I

2299
01:42:38,882 --> 01:42:40,888
We won't fight, we won't interrupt each
other.

2300
01:42:40,888 --> 01:42:42,552
It'll be great, Dina.

2301
01:42:42,614 --> 01:42:43,796
You and me.

2302
01:42:48,150 --> 01:42:53,032
Well, so I think about like, I always go
back to atomic habits.

2303
01:42:53,032 --> 01:42:58,215
But like, I think about when I was first
getting back to reading, like honestly,

2304
01:42:58,215 --> 01:43:01,926
when I started reading self development, I
probably had not read until college when I

2305
01:43:01,926 --> 01:43:05,358
or since college when I was forced to
read, which is really sad.

2306
01:43:05,398 --> 01:43:13,061
And but Chappwood, Carrie water is a
really, it's a really good mindset book,

2307
01:43:13,061 --> 01:43:14,840
but very like easy read.

2308
01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:17,141
So think that would have been a really
good starter for me.

2309
01:43:17,141 --> 01:43:21,003
I will also say just because Liz and I
both just finished the same book, that

2310
01:43:21,003 --> 01:43:24,615
book Worthy that I was just talking about
earlier by Jamie Kern Lima, that's a

2311
01:43:24,615 --> 01:43:25,236
really good one.

2312
01:43:25,236 --> 01:43:30,959
It's more female targeted, but that's a
really good one because it just talks

2313
01:43:30,959 --> 01:43:34,220
about the difference between self -worth
and self -confidence and how they're very

2314
01:43:34,220 --> 01:43:38,383
different and how to, I mean, there's very
simple steps to building self -confidence,

2315
01:43:38,383 --> 01:43:40,924
but it's not very common to talk about
self -worth.

2316
01:43:40,924 --> 01:43:43,825
Self -worth is the foundation for self
-confidence.

2317
01:43:44,834 --> 01:43:46,107
That's a really, really good book too.

2318
01:43:46,107 --> 01:43:49,651
So I would recommend that as well.

2319
01:43:49,651 --> 01:43:50,737
Love both of those.

2320
01:43:50,737 --> 01:43:52,113
Well, all three.

2321
01:43:52,113 --> 01:43:53,025
Solid.

2322
01:43:53,249 --> 01:43:54,552
Guys, I love it.

2323
01:43:54,983 --> 01:43:56,764
I appreciate you guys a lot.

2324
01:43:57,164 --> 01:44:01,436
to say it again, it's really, really cool
from my perspective to like see the

2325
01:44:01,436 --> 01:44:02,517
journey that you guys have been on.

2326
01:44:02,517 --> 01:44:04,928
And we didn't even really touch on any of
it today, which is fine.

2327
01:44:04,928 --> 01:44:06,408
We'll get into it eventually.

2328
01:44:06,408 --> 01:44:09,560
to see where you guys have come of like
taking that ownership and being

2329
01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:12,371
intentional of like, no, like this is on
me, right?

2330
01:44:12,371 --> 01:44:16,213
I got to do this myself to pass it on to
my kids, pass it on to clients.

2331
01:44:16,213 --> 01:44:20,225
And to see you guys spin that into a
podcast, it's a very successful podcast

2332
01:44:20,225 --> 01:44:22,896
where now you're impacting people out
there in the world.

2333
01:44:22,896 --> 01:44:24,367
It's only the beginning for you guys.

2334
01:44:24,367 --> 01:44:24,917
Like

2335
01:44:24,917 --> 01:44:28,499
guys have a very, very, big mark to make
on this world.

2336
01:44:28,619 --> 01:44:31,441
and it's really freaking cool to be a part
of that journey in even a small way.

2337
01:44:31,441 --> 01:44:31,772
Right.

2338
01:44:31,772 --> 01:44:36,064
Like I literally, I know we joke a lot,
but I don't take credit for it because,

2339
01:44:36,345 --> 01:44:40,367
like for real, like I don't, like I take
credit for making you guys come together

2340
01:44:40,367 --> 01:44:41,048
for sure.

2341
01:44:41,048 --> 01:44:44,430
But like, I don't take credit for that
journey because it's up to you guys to

2342
01:44:44,430 --> 01:44:48,253
take what I've taught you and to
internalize it and to use it.

2343
01:44:48,253 --> 01:44:48,543
Right.

2344
01:44:48,543 --> 01:44:52,035
Very similarly, like my journey, like I
was getting a lot of mindset and quite

2345
01:44:52,035 --> 01:44:54,769
honestly, a lot of the books that I've
ended up reading, I was

2346
01:44:54,769 --> 01:44:58,509
that stuff 15, 17 years ago, right by
different mentors that are my life at that

2347
01:44:58,509 --> 01:44:59,929
time, I just never latched onto it.

2348
01:44:59,929 --> 01:45:01,869
I'm like, I don't really see a purpose in
this.

2349
01:45:01,869 --> 01:45:05,529
So my journey came to be when I like made
that decision for myself of like, okay,

2350
01:45:05,529 --> 01:45:07,209
cool, this is what I need to go do.

2351
01:45:07,209 --> 01:45:10,349
And you guys have done the same thing, you
know, and it's a continuation process.

2352
01:45:10,349 --> 01:45:11,789
I'm really proud of you guys.

2353
01:45:11,789 --> 01:45:16,009
For anybody listening, male or female,
it's called when my when mama's rise up

2354
01:45:16,009 --> 01:45:18,189
podcast, there is so much value in there.

2355
01:45:18,189 --> 01:45:20,349
And it's really cool for me to personally
listen to that.

2356
01:45:20,349 --> 01:45:23,049
Because I have my perspective, one of the
things that I've taught you, but to hear

2357
01:45:23,049 --> 01:45:24,723
it from your perspective, and your

2358
01:45:24,723 --> 01:45:27,776
and how you've applied it, actually I
learn a lot from it.

2359
01:45:27,776 --> 01:45:30,188
So I appreciate you guys, who you are and
what you're doing in the world.

2360
01:45:30,188 --> 01:45:31,074
amazing.

2361
01:45:31,074 --> 01:45:32,515
Thank you.

2362
01:45:32,515 --> 01:45:35,937
We really didn't talk about that process
all that much, but that was really a huge

2363
01:45:35,937 --> 01:45:39,989
part of both of our just journeys over the
last year.

2364
01:45:39,989 --> 01:45:42,390
We just hit a year with When Mamas Rise
Up.

2365
01:45:42,390 --> 01:45:44,171
We just had our year anniversary episode.

2366
01:45:44,171 --> 01:45:50,425
But that whole thing was literally like,
we would talk on the phone for hours,

2367
01:45:50,425 --> 01:45:54,617
literally just about stuff, how people
struggle with certain things, what we

2368
01:45:54,617 --> 01:45:57,869
would recommend, how we would make them
better, da -da -da -da, all these things.

2369
01:45:57,869 --> 01:45:59,246
And we one day were just

2370
01:45:59,246 --> 01:46:01,306
we should have a podcast about this stuff.

2371
01:46:01,306 --> 01:46:03,886
It just like literally record our
conversations.

2372
01:46:03,966 --> 01:46:07,285
And so we both put it on our vision board,
but it didn't stay there for long.

2373
01:46:07,285 --> 01:46:11,186
It was maybe a month before we were like,
let's just freaking do it.

2374
01:46:11,186 --> 01:46:12,946
You know, we didn't wait till we were
ready.

2375
01:46:12,946 --> 01:46:14,026
Like we just did it.

2376
01:46:14,026 --> 01:46:18,366
And I would like, while I do love our
episodes, our very first episode is kind

2377
01:46:18,366 --> 01:46:19,706
of painful to listen to.

2378
01:46:19,706 --> 01:46:20,206
don't.

2379
01:46:20,206 --> 01:46:22,726
Don't listen to the first like 10.

2380
01:46:23,966 --> 01:46:27,128
We've come a long way, but it's been
really cool because that's

2381
01:46:27,128 --> 01:46:30,370
That's our whole thing is it's like, you
know, we're both coaches and we both want

2382
01:46:30,370 --> 01:46:35,623
to make an impact, but we can still only
help so many people doing that.

2383
01:46:35,623 --> 01:46:40,336
Like we wanted to be able to help people
in a broader audience in a bigger way.

2384
01:46:41,007 --> 01:46:42,317
so that's why we started the podcast.

2385
01:46:42,317 --> 01:46:44,749
And that's what it's all about is just
being able to reach more people and just

2386
01:46:44,749 --> 01:46:49,892
help them believe in themselves, help them
believe that they're capable of more.

2387
01:46:49,892 --> 01:46:53,804
Like that's kind of the whole, I mean,
idea behind.

2388
01:46:54,050 --> 01:46:56,809
That's like our whole mission really is
just helping people believe that they're

2389
01:46:56,809 --> 01:46:58,342
capable of more in life.

2390
01:46:59,123 --> 01:47:00,893
taking that baton and running with

2391
01:47:00,893 --> 01:47:04,145
Yeah, that's really all I ever did for you
guys was just like, Hey, like, this is the

2392
01:47:04,145 --> 01:47:05,646
path of what you could be.

2393
01:47:05,646 --> 01:47:09,649
What happens if you don't, you know, to
talk about the reference back what we

2394
01:47:09,649 --> 01:47:10,249
talked to earlier.

2395
01:47:10,249 --> 01:47:14,542
So I know we're getting along here, but
guys, if you gain value from the show, and

2396
01:47:14,542 --> 01:47:16,804
I know you did, this is one of those shows
you're going to want to let's do a couple

2397
01:47:16,804 --> 01:47:17,934
of different times.

2398
01:47:18,635 --> 01:47:20,366
And over time, right?

2399
01:47:20,366 --> 01:47:23,038
They come back to this a month or two from
now, the first time you listen to it,

2400
01:47:23,038 --> 01:47:25,890
because you're going to find different
things as you're going through your

2401
01:47:25,890 --> 01:47:28,962
journey and down your path that you're
like, man, I didn't catch that the first

2402
01:47:28,962 --> 01:47:29,152
time.

2403
01:47:29,152 --> 01:47:30,751
It's very much like reading a book.

2404
01:47:30,751 --> 01:47:33,222
It's like you didn't catch it the first
time, but you're at a different spot in

2405
01:47:33,222 --> 01:47:34,932
your life and it's going to make that it's
going to hit.

2406
01:47:34,932 --> 01:47:40,394
And I think we covered a wide enough topic
range that like it will hit you at

2407
01:47:40,394 --> 01:47:42,625
different parts of your journey if you
continue listening to this.

2408
01:47:42,625 --> 01:47:43,325
So share it.

2409
01:47:43,325 --> 01:47:46,915
If you did find value, if there's
something that you picked up that you want

2410
01:47:46,915 --> 01:47:48,436
somebody else to have, give it to them.

2411
01:47:48,436 --> 01:47:50,557
And the second thing is start listening to
their podcast.

2412
01:47:50,557 --> 01:47:53,768
It's a really, really good podcast to
listen to, to just pivot.

2413
01:47:53,768 --> 01:47:56,879
And it's a different perspective on a lot
of the things that Dino and I talk about

2414
01:47:56,879 --> 01:47:57,719
as well.

2415
01:47:57,984 --> 01:47:59,405
Yeah, it's not just for moms.

2416
01:47:59,405 --> 01:48:00,005
It's not.

2417
01:48:00,005 --> 01:48:00,806
It's not just for moms.

2418
01:48:00,806 --> 01:48:04,659
Like we do talk about mom stuff in there,
obviously, because we are, that's our

2419
01:48:04,659 --> 01:48:05,519
life.

2420
01:48:05,740 --> 01:48:08,821
But the messages that we get out are for
everybody.

2421
01:48:09,651 --> 01:48:12,730
Final question I ask is what was your most
listened to episode?

2422
01:48:16,303 --> 01:48:23,085
He's asking that because Because he knows
that, because, okay, well, was a guest.

2423
01:48:23,085 --> 01:48:27,096
Josh was our very first guest on our
podcast and it - We had two episodes, but

2424
01:48:27,096 --> 01:48:28,396
it was the second one that hit.

2425
01:48:28,396 --> 01:48:28,666
Yeah.

2426
01:48:28,666 --> 01:48:30,377
The one about emotional sabotage.

2427
01:48:30,377 --> 01:48:33,048
Actually, that one has the most plays for
us.

2428
01:48:33,048 --> 01:48:36,719
And actually, I send that one out to a lot
of my clients still because I mean, people

2429
01:48:36,719 --> 01:48:37,589
struggle with that always.

2430
01:48:37,589 --> 01:48:41,610
So I always send, have people go back and
listen to that episode.

2431
01:48:42,006 --> 01:48:44,990
You know, in a couple of weeks, I'm going
to ask you the same thing.

2432
01:48:44,990 --> 01:48:47,814
Which one is your most played episode?

2433
01:48:47,871 --> 01:48:49,833
I guarantee it will be this one.

2434
01:48:49,833 --> 01:48:51,614
I already can already see it too.

2435
01:48:51,614 --> 01:48:53,175
I already know that it will be.

2436
01:48:53,175 --> 01:48:55,977
I love how Josh set up that question
knowing.

2437
01:48:55,977 --> 01:48:56,737
mean.

2438
01:48:56,737 --> 01:48:58,378
It's innocent question.

2439
01:48:58,378 --> 01:49:01,180
Yeah, yeah, sure, sure, sure.

2440
01:49:02,001 --> 01:49:03,311
Yeah, yeah, no credit.

2441
01:49:03,311 --> 01:49:03,802
Zero.

2442
01:49:03,802 --> 01:49:07,264
But every all the credit for everything
you guys did, but no credit, you know.

2443
01:49:08,065 --> 01:49:10,166
Nah, it's always a conversation.

2444
01:49:10,816 --> 01:49:11,442
yeah, this is

2445
01:49:11,442 --> 01:49:15,053
guests on another podcast before, so this
was exciting for us.

2446
01:49:15,094 --> 01:49:19,576
We really appreciate you guys letting us
speak on all the things.

2447
01:49:19,576 --> 01:49:21,356
Share a message.

2448
01:49:22,377 --> 01:49:23,167
We like to talk.

2449
01:49:23,167 --> 01:49:24,077
cover it.

2450
01:49:24,499 --> 01:49:25,389
We appreciate you guys.

2451
01:49:25,389 --> 01:49:26,670
Thank you guys again.

2452
01:49:26,670 --> 01:49:27,240
One more time.

2453
01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:31,252
If you find value in this year, it, both
with, our podcast and with Jenna's

2454
01:49:31,252 --> 01:49:33,483
podcast, that's all we had in Liz's
podcast.

2455
01:49:33,483 --> 01:49:35,914
Like that's all we ever ask is just give
it to other people.

2456
01:49:35,914 --> 01:49:36,755
It's a gift, right?

2457
01:49:36,755 --> 01:49:41,287
It's why we do what we do is like, we have
been passed the baton from other people

2458
01:49:41,287 --> 01:49:44,899
and we just want to pay that forward to do
the same, but even more so as apply this

2459
01:49:44,899 --> 01:49:46,009
stuff, put it into practice.

2460
01:49:46,009 --> 01:49:52,382
If you have questions, I'll tag, Jenna and
Liz's Instagram on, our bio here for this

2461
01:49:52,382 --> 01:49:54,433
episode, but reach out, ask them
questions.

2462
01:49:54,433 --> 01:49:56,054
if you wanna know more about stuff they
talked about.

2463
01:49:56,054 --> 01:49:58,514
We're all in open book to be able to help
you.

2464
01:49:58,815 --> 01:50:02,066
without further ado, you guys have an
amazing rest of your day together.

2465
01:50:02,066 --> 01:50:04,377
Thank you for waking up super early for
us.

2466
01:50:04,677 --> 01:50:06,618
But yeah, guys, until next time.

2467
01:50:07,138 --> 01:50:09,210
Peace.