means, move at a glacial pace.
You know how that thrills me. Welcome to Primary Technology,
the show about the tech news that matters.
It's our pre-WWDC show. So we're going go through all the rumors,
what we actually expect to see announced next week at WWDC and our hopes and dreams.
I actually have some feature lists from last year that came true
in retrospect and some that I'm still waiting on.
Jason has some thoughts as an app developer,
And we have a bunch of listener and viewer hopes and dreams for Dub Dub as well.
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I'm one of your host Stephen Robles,
joined by journalist Jason Aten.
How's it going, Jason? I'm still doing we got a lot of it today.
We're still doing that, huh? We're still doing I just want to be clear
that yeah, you really have to become a member and go listen to last week's bonus
episode because or not bonus episode,
That's the unedited feed, yeah,
pre-show. Yeah, because otherwise it doesn't none of that makes any sense.
yeah, exactly. I know it doesn't make sense.
Because I just want to be clear,
I'm not asking Steven to call me a journalist.
Not at all. Not at all. But you're also not a leaker.
So true.
So do you know where do you know where that quote comes from?
By all means, move it a glacial base.
I do
Yes.
it's from the Devil's Wears Prada.
Yes, that's right.
But the only reason I know that is because they just made a sequel and
That's right.
I was talking about the sequel and no one in my family had an idea that this
was even a movie and so we had to watch it.
The first one. They just like,
The first one? They didn't know the first one was a movie?
What is it? Well, I mean, like,
how would my kids know? And my wife is not really a Devil Wears Prada kind
That's true.
of kind of gal, so I was like,
I see. She's more Louis Vuitton.
we should watch this. She's like,
Why is Cruella de Villa in it?
I'm like, exactly. That's exactly the case.
She's a
very good query development. Also,
so we have five star reviews, and I just want everybody to know that Jason
did not know this reference. Podcast seven two eight from the
USA basically quoted Pinky and the Brain in their review.
And ~ Jason didn't know what Pinky in the Brain was.
I had no idea. I'd never heard of it.
Which blew my mind. So please leave us a five-star rating review.
Do you know what Pinky in the Brain is?
Because I was I was well acquainted.
And if you do, have you watched the West Wing?
Don't ask me why, just I want to know those two things.
~ They somehow are related. And
~ Luke Ireland said that featuring journalist Jason Ayton and some other guys
is a great show. I had to ~ skip the first word because I'm not saying that.
So I I said we'll see if I get the rest of the show.
Thank you for those five-star reviews.
And I made a a terrible mistake last week.
I said Uruguay, and I mentioned it was sin in Central America.
I don't know why I did that. That was a geographical ~ brain fart.
Faux pa.
Faux pas. So it's South America.
South America will be represented by our polar bear and medieval night
pin by being an Uruguay. And so I'm I'm waiting for a picture on that.
But I have some exciting pictures from the pin traveling the world right now.
Because Theo from the UK got his pin.
And that pin, ~ you got a picture right here in front of the UK flag.
There it is. So the medieval night traveling around.
And Andrew made the pin all the way,
got it all the way to Japan. Here's our pin at Shibuya Crossing in Japan,
and then also our pin in Nintendo,
Tokyo. We're there. We're in Asia.
We're in Europe. Soon to be Africa,
South America. We just need Antarctica.
Antarctica.
Everybody, somebody. We we need your help.
We need your help. We're in all seven to eight continents.
Very fun. All right, so we're gonna do a big dub dub ~ show today.
Our hopes and dreams, what we think we're really gonna see,
and then we'll see who's right next week.
But I did wanna sh a couple news bits.
Did you see this shift robots thing?
Did you see this video?
No.
So this was announced this was Friday last week,
and Shift basically says we're going to clean your house for free.
This is in New York City right now.
They're like, Listen, we'll come to your house,
we will clean it for free. What is the trade?
What you think the trade off is,
Jason, since you hadn't heard about this?
Well,
I did just look at a tweet about it and they're they're hold on.
Okay. Yes, that's right.
Okay. They want in exchange we record the cleaning.
So what they want is for you to send a robot into the dirtiest corners
That's right.
of your life and capture it for perpetuity?
No, thank you.
Right. So well to be c
to be clear, what this service is,
it's actual human beings wearing a camera that will go to your apartment
or home in New York City and clean for clean your house for free.
In exchange, they are recording the entire time to send this as training data
so that one day robots can do these same jobs.
This is worse. This is not robots
that are going into the worst,
dirtiest corners of your life.
These are actual people with cameras.
Actual people. They and
they say any personal information is anonymized and anything they come across,
you know, you can you don't have to worry about that.
But it's still in the human's brain.
It might be anonymized on the server,
Well
but it's still there's a person.
That is true. But the the purpose is because we need a lot of data for
how to wash dishes and load different dishwashers.
And I imagine some of those dishwashers in New York City are probably
It's
two dishes wide. And so, you know,
you gotta you gotta get all. You gotta train it all.
So yeah, shift. All you need you can get your house cleaned for free
in New York City if you're willing to just have a random person wear a camera
and do it.
I don't think that's
I don't know. We'll see. There are a bunch of people asking questions
and like you know, asking for more information that wants to do it.
So I don't know. I wouldn't I would not do it.
I mean I would sooner have the Neo X1 robot come in my house and do some stuff with
just a real person in VR, but then say don't only go to this room.
You know what I mean? Like don't don't don't don't don't go to the bedrooms.
Mm.
Stay in the kitchen, stay in the living room.
Don't go over there. Just stay here.
If you cross this threshold, I'm gonna kick you.
Like let's just just let's just be real.
Self destruct. Yeah, I'm gonna kick you.
I'm gonna kick you.
yeah,
no, I don't hard no.
So anyway, there was that. There was that.
And then one other quick news bits.
So NVIDIA they actually had a big event ~ t or this morning or early this morning.
We're we're recording on Monday in case you've realized.
This is kind of an episode ahead of time.
But they recorded and they one announced a super chip.
So there's a super chip now where I forget what they call it.
I just had the Mac Rumers article up.
But this might be coming to Windows PCs.
I was hoping to read this Axios article,
but it's of course behind a paywall.
If
you put it in the reader mode,
you can see the whole thing. That's so weird that that's a thing.
That it's 'cause you're using Safari.
No, I can't. Look at this. This this is what reader mode shows me.
If you were using a real browser,
it you'd be able to see it 'cause I can.
I'm about to I'm
gonna flip a table. Listen to me.
This d this is this is Axios. This is the I l I we don't have time
to talk about monetization and modern journalism.
But the fact that I can't read a single medium article or any Axios article at all,
that it just feels like it's not sustainable,
you know what mean? But anyway.
Yeah, I agree.
I'm not gonna put that Axios link in the in the show notes because nobody
can read it. But okay, so this is the new chip.
This is trying to take on Apple Silicon,
the RTX
Spark. And I saw the video, they basically showed it like fusing two chips together,
kinda like Apple talks about the ultra versions of the chips.
But it was announced by Jensen Huang and it's gonna be made for AI agents.
Made for AI agents. It's gonna be a super chip.
And we might see Windows laptops powered by NVIDIA chips soon.
So there you go.
'cause
you know, Windows laptops powered by ARM chips is going so well for them.
No, it's not at all. Windows on ARM I th as far as I know is not like great.
Is it? I have no idea. I just have no idea.
Okay, I have no idea how that's going.
~ yeah. Okay. Well we'll see. I mean in video in video chips though,
people like them. People a lot of people buying People like them.
People like them.
All right, let's talk about WWDC.
First of all, journalist Mark German tweeted this and I thought was interesting.
Kelsey Peterson, who was the announcer of Apple Intelligence two years
ago at WW WDC, she just started at OpenAI.
So she will not be making an appearance during the keynote on Monday talking about
Apple Intelligence. Never gonna get to like redeem the
All the things she announced didn't come true,
but maybe they will now. So yeah,
Right.
I thought that was kind of funny.
Kelsey Peterson now at OpenAI.
She was the one that announced all the Apple Intelligence stuff that didn't come
two years ago. So there's that.
But I want to go through some of the rumors that have come out.
So rumor roundup and we're gonna s kind of give our is this actually gonna happen
or not? Because, you know, there's a lot of things and there's a lot
of rumors that come out that actually don't come true.
Spoiler.
a lot of things from journalist Mark German that may or may not come right now.
So, number one,
the better personalized Siri, which will be and the personalized Siri like
the semantic index that Apple talked about two years ago,
where you can ask it, you know,
what time do I need to leave to pick up my mom from the airport?
And Siri's gonna reach in and Apple Intelligence reach into your text messages,
get what information there, reach into your email,
look at your contacts, and we'll be able to,
you know, pull all that information together.
and just tell you the number, tell you what time you need to leave because
it just knows all the things. And in addition to you know being
a personalized series, well let's let's rate this.
Number one, the personalized series,
are we gonna see that this year?
Actually coming.
So this is complicated, Steven,
'cause I think the answer is yes,
but I don't think it's going to be what we saw in twenty twenty four.
How do you think it's gonna be different?
I think it will be the minimum viable product version of that.
Because essentially what they were promising back then was what Claude
can do for you if you give it access to enough information.
Right? Like if Claude can access your messages,
Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
it could a hundred percent do this for you.
Right. So but I don't I think that there is this inherent tension between
That is true.
privacy and making products that work in this space,
right? Like I don't know that you can have both of them because
I think that the guardrails that Apple is going to put on it is going
to make it limited. Because for example,
like the goal here, like sandboxing sort of defeats this.
I know that there are ways to lull out apps to share information and stuff,
Right.
but I'm just not sure 'cause really they have to have the app intense work.
Well, but they could also do personalized series stuff.
I mean, there could be caveats like if you use Spark and not mail
Yeah, that's not gonna work. We can't do that.
That is that is gonna you know,
I didn't even think about that challenge over these last two years.
Yeah, no, because nobody
here's the thing, the people who care the most about this as early adopters
They're power users.
are the people who are least likely to be using the mail app and whatever,
right? They're right. Link down in the description.
Apple notes or whatever.
Yeah.
You should adopt whatever API comes out.
Yeah, the app intense
though. Well, so better personal last year.
You're saying yes with caveats.
I
think they will talk about a personalized version of Siri.
They may not use those exact words.
I think they will talk about the new version of Siri and how
it uses personalized intelligence,
which is the thing Craig Federigi said was a thing that wasn't a thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think they're gonna talk about all of that.
But I don't know that it's gonna be the whole you could have a conversation with
it and it's like, Hey, what time is the flight landing?
And will we have enough time to get to our reservation?
Like the number of things that have to be able to work for it to do and
it has to just not hallucinate.
And like, yeah, you're having dinner over there.
Like, so I don't I think there will be a thing.
That is important.
I'm not convinced it will be the promise that they made in 2020.
Interesting. I am inclined to
So I'm like
a four on the they're gonna talk about a personalized intelligence in some version.
Like four out of five.
Yeah. I'm like a one and a half that it'll be
Okay, well, I'm actually gonna agree with you because I feel I I like your take
on this and I feel like that's probably what we're gonna see.
~ the other rumor that journalist Mark German talked about
was shortcuts that you'd be able to open the app and just ask shortcuts
to make you something. That it's just gonna say,
what kind of shortcut would you like to build?
And that Apple Intelligence will just build it for you.
I'm going to say that's not gonna happen.
I think that there will be Apple Intelligence.
maybe built into shortcuts that helps you suggest actions or maybe guides you.
But the full prompting from scratch,
I played with the shortcut studio app,
which is a great effort at ~ help making a having AI make shortcuts for you,
and even Federico Fetici's shortcuts playground,
which he spent six months, you know,
trying to make AI make these shortcuts.
I don't think Apple, because it is unreliable,
like
Both of those methods, the shortcut studio and Federico's shortcuts playground,
they're very good, but they still fail in the last ten percent.
They don't connect some variables.
If there's ever like a repeat with each action,
it doesn't pick the right information usually.
And so you always have to do that last ten percent.
And I don't like maybe Apple will have a better chance at the
AI making them and connect everything accurate,
but they're still beholden to the AI.
And I don't think they're gonna be using
their personal one, even if they're using Gemini,
I mean Claude and OpenAI right now can't do it.
And those AIs are pretty good.
And they still can't build a shortcut.
Sure.
So I think we are not going to see like an open prompt.
And maybe I could be wrong. We'll see,
you know, in less than a week,
if I'm actually but I think it it might there might be some guidance,
but you won't have like a a make from scratch.
What shortcut do you want? And it just do it.
That's my prediction.
Hmm. W so you said a z what are you saying,
a zero?
I'm gonna say a zero on like prompt shortcut creation.
Okay, I'm gonna say a three, just because otherwise it's not as interesting
if we agree on everything. But also,
again, I think they're gonna say something.
It may not be the thing that you're s that you just described,
They'll say something.
but I think that Apple does this.
It's like, see, we we made the thing and it's like that's it No,
you made a thing you can say is the thing,
but it's not the thing, and I think that that's gonna happen here.
But I also what you what you were talking about is like the hard problem.
It's like there's no way to just
create an algorithm that just does this,
you have to literally test for every possible edge case.
And the problem is the edge cases are infinity.
And so it's almost impossible in the and then the thing is they can
Yeah. Right.
get you ninety percent of the way and someone like you can figure out
the last ten percent. And that's great.
It saved you some time. You just have to tweak it or whatever.
The whole point of in theory, the whole point of shortcuts is I don't have
to know anything. It's no code,
right? Like no code software building is what this is supposed to be.
And I think that that's gonna be a problem.
However
I don't think matters. I don't think that this is gonna expose shortcuts
to more people.
No, that's my job. And that will still be my job.
Sure.
And that's I'm safe. All good.
~ let's do something. I think we'll agree on this,
but we'll see. Last week, I'll put the gift link once again,
but it's you're running out of time if you want to read the gifted article.
yeah, that's right. We're at the d well,
thankfully we're recording early.
~ but they're not gonna hear this early though,
That's correct. Yeah, they still hear it on Thursday,
right? Okay. You got fifteen minutes,
so you might not be able to it.
go.
Exactly. German said that the there's gonna be the standalone Siri app.
I think this is accurate. I'm gonna be a five out of five.
I think we're gonna see a standalone Siri app where you can interact
and chat with it and I'll have your conversation here.
You have ~ history. I think this is accurate.
What do you think?
I thought we were gonna agree on this.
So you just think five? I think we're supposed to be rating these,
Yeah, I'm saying five. Yeah, yeah,
right? Okay.
yeah. I'll say five. Zero to five,
how sure.
Hm.
I don't know if you're gonna give a five to anything to be honest.
But maybe we'll see.
I I mean the rumors make it seem like this is probably pretty likely I just hate it,
so
Alright, we'll say we'll say you agree.
I'll put you down for a five. Five out of five.
That's fine. That's
The pick your AI. This one I'm I'm unsure about.
So a lot of the rumors were right now there's the ChatGPT integration
in Apple Intelligence. So if you want to choose that,
you can, you know, ask Siri to ask ChatGPT or use ChatGPT in like image playgrounds.
And then in iOS twenty seven, you'll be able to choose between Gemini,
Claude, and OpenAI, like the behind the scenes.
And so maybe that'll play into shortcuts.
That can play into image generation or just general queries.
So when you ask the voice assistant something,
you can tell it to go to Claude.
This I'm I'm not I'm not down.
Like I don't think I'm not very sure about this.
I'm gonna give this a three, personally.
Why why don't you think this is gonna I you already have the ability
to log into your ch open AI account.
Well, one, I think the Gemini integration is not going to be surface to the user.
I think the deal that they made with Google,
Gemini's going power ~ more of the Apple intelligence features,
but I don't think that means they're gonna put a Gemini login screen
in settings to do that.
Yeah, but I think that this is this is different from that.
I think that there is a model that that they're using from Gem that's
a Gemini model to power the underlying foundation model.
But that is different, right? Right now Siri has one,
right? It sucks, but it has they have one.
I think that this is more like I love Claude.
I just wanna save all my requests in Claude to y when it when this on device
is not capable of doing that.
And so I think it's more likely than not that this I think this is possibly a thing.
I just think that they should be building a system that d the only reason
to do this is you're like I just love Claude or I just love Gemini and what
I want is when I also then go to the Gemini app,
all the conversations I had are just there.
Right now that doesn't even work with Chat GPT.
Like your conversation you know,
I understand. But if they're gonna
they don't say
build a ch Siri app for the same purpose,
like it makes no sense that that's if you're logged into one of those accounts that
that information wouldn't just be saved there,
so
So what do you so you're saying like four?
It's so hard 'cause I think some of this stuff is so dumb.
But pick your AI. I think this is a four.
Why do you think it's dumb?
Why do you think it's dumb though?
I think that I think the only reason this makes sense is if you can do what
I just described. If they're not going to do that,
then the system should just decide what is the best model for this problem
and not surface any of that to the users.
Yeah, but
It makes no sense.
I I think the people who want to use these features probably also have
a particular bent towards Claude or Gemini.
It's still just
gonna be wrapped up in theory.
Yeah, I don't know. We'll see.
All right, what about grammarly style Siri?
One of the rumors is that right now writing tools exist and you can like,
you know, highlight, proofread,
rewrite to be more professional or friendly,
but that this is gonna go even further and do like full grammar checking
and stuff like that when you're writing like in mail.
Like it's just gonna do it automatically,
like grammarly, basically, like in a web browser and stuff like that,
and and everywhere you type. This feels like
I could see this in a keynote them being like,
Yeah, now's Apple Intelligence is gonna take care of all your grammar.
You're never gonna misspell anything again.
Yeah.
Sure.
I'm gonna give it a three. How you?
All right. All right, we agree on three.
Sure.
The next so generated wallpapers,
A, you can 100% do this right now with shortcuts and Apple Intelligence.
I l I've made, I almost did it.
I almost said that. I've made shortcuts that you can prompt
and have built-in prompts and you can have the image playgrounds action build
a wall, like create a wallpaper that's in the right format and just set
it as your wallpaper. Like you can totally do that.
So I feel like them making it a feature that's built into like the lock screen,
home screen customizer, be able to generate wallpapers with Apple Intelligence.
I'm a f I'm a five out of five.
I think we're gonna see this. What do you think?
Yeah, it's hard for me to be thinking of these as how likely they are 'cause
I just want to talk about how how much I how I okay.
You can't talk about how that dumb everything is,
Jason. People
like this kind of stuff. What wallpaper do you use?
Do you use the same wallpaper all day,
every day, never change it? What is it?
Pretty much. I have like two I cycle through.
Is it a black? Just a black screen?
Well, are you talking about on my home screen or are you talking about 'cause like
my home screen is the surface of the Steve Jobs theater.
I'm sorry, the lock screen is just the surface of the Steve Jobs theater.
Okay.
So like and then my home screen is just like brushed aluminum black.
Okay.
And it's been that way forever.
Yeah, and I would literally never change it.
And I said it and I mean it.
Black like your soul. Okay, let's keep going.
No, it's because it makes it super
easy to identify all the things on it.
Why would I want to put a picture of my kids and then cover them up with
Okay, yeah.
No, see I do the pictures on my Apple Watch.
I do pictures of my kids on my Apple Watch.
Okay, so then this is perfectly fine.
But I also like I like color on my home screen.
I hate that so much.
I I vary my home screen wallpaper a lot.
And I use a lot of basic Apple Guy's wallpaper.
I never do.
Someone on social media thought I was the same as basic Apple Guy.
And I have no I don't know if I have any way to prove this,
but I'm not. I I have an entire text thread and if he doesn't exist,
That would be the story of the century.
it's just me talking to myself and it'll be very troubling.
I don't think it's
Very fight
club.
Yeah. So I I won't reveal anymore.
But also he had a great quote.
he well, he texted me. If you believe that he exists and that I am not him,
he texted me this he's he's working on some stuff and he wanted to talk about vibe
coding and I want to know if you ~ relate to this quote as a vibe coder yourself.
He said being a vibe coder is like being a three year old trying
to instruct an adult over the phone how to build furniture.
I actually think it is more like being an adult trying to instruct a three year
old to build furniture.
But the but the three year old,
namely the AI, on the other end of the phone line,
knows how to build an app more than us,
like me and you. We don't know how code.
So you can't say the three year old is on the other end.
Hmm.
Yeah, I think it's you know what I'm saying?
Mm.
I thought I thought that was a pretty good analogy.
Maybe not that we're not the three year old,
maybe we're eight or nine.
I I think I I I can go with it.
I just don't think three year olds care about building furniture,
so there's a little bit of a disconnect for me there.
Well,
I'd I just like the picture of like us talking on the phone to an AI be like,
Listen, put the button over here.
You can do that. You can call ChatGPT on the phone.
Put more yeah,
I
you can.
actually did that at like Christmas Thanksgiving party.
Didn't they shut that d they
shut that down though. They don't let let you talk to it with WhatsApp or whatever.
Is
it I don't know. But I thought there's still like one eight hundred call chat
GPT or whatever.
No Okay. That sounds right. All right.
So for generated wallpapers I put J Stephen five,
Jason Mayh. Visual intelligence improvements.
This was interesting. So visual intelligence,
you know, right now, do you ever use it?
You probably never use it. Visual intelligence?
Visual intelligence.
I have maybe used it once or twice,
but I actually think it's way better to just take a photo of something
and then ask your photos what it is.
There's that. I've used well, I use visual intelligence basically
in the screenshot area. Like if I want if there's a date on screen and I want
to add it to my calendar, and this will go into our request.
I do it that way. Like I'll take a screenshot,
the date automatically populates at the bottom.
I'll can add it to my calendar and then X out so it doesn't save the screenshot.
That I find like the one of the most useful visual intelligence features,
but I very rarely hold the camera control button to go into
the visual intelligence mode.
and like look at a puppy breed.
I don't do that. I d just 'cause I think more of the information that's useful
~
to to work with is what's on the phone screen rather than
I
think what you were saying is to look at a breed of puppy,
but what you s what you said is to look at a puppy breed,
What did I say?
but I just feel like that's a that's a that's you it sounded like you're using
the that's weird, yeah. That's that's fine.
it as a verb and not a noun.
Well anyway, some of the visual intelligence improvements coming might
be like health interpretation style things where you can point visual intelligence
maybe at a lab report or results and it'll give you some data on that.
It'll of course tell you it's not a doctor.
But business cards, this is something I've created a thousand shortcuts
for because people have always wanted it.
Like looking at a business card,
taking a picture, and then parsing the information into context.
Which shortcuts can kind of do.
Like if you just say pull text from image,
get phone number, get address,
get ~ URLs from the image,
you can then parse that into a contact and make it.
So yeah, visual intelligence just doing that right out of the gate seems pretty
easy. Not easy, but it seems like very ha very possible.
Mm-hmm.
And that feels like a feature that like Craig Federic is gonna show off at dub dub.
Like, look, you could take a picture of business card and just add
Right. Yeah.
it to your contacts. I I'm a five out of five for that.
I think the health stuff too.
Probably coming too.
Sure. Yeah. Sure.
Okay, great. Steven and Jason,
five out of five.
Great. New cam this was interesting.
New camera stuff. So I was 27.
The camera app might get more customizable controls,
which it kind of has this now,
to be honest, like where you can move controls in and out of like that
top bar or whatever, but that there'll be even more customizable controls,
an advanced mode, giving power or pro users be able to switch on
the fly between certain things.
Like you can already switch between Pro Raw.
But maybe manual focus, things like that.
Maybe this is a Sherelocking of some apps like Halide.
Of course, Hallide has a bunch of other features that will not be Sherlocked,
I'm sure. But yeah, updated camera app,
I feel like they're always updating that anyway.
Yeah, I'm
sure they're gonna update the camera app,
but I'm sure it will have some of the things that we've seen.
I don't think that it's gonna have any impact on Halide because they
s they still have to make the camera app absolutely dummy proof because it's
the single most important feature on the on the iPhone.
It's the single most important feature on any piece of technology made.
Yes. So it was
I again I we talked about in the pre-show.
I was at my kids' dance recital.
I saw so many phones of peop people taking photos and videos with their phone.
Number one, nobody touches the zoom numbers to change camera lenses.
So do I. No, but no one does it.
So much.
Everyone just pinches and zooms to frame the shot and then does it.
And I I wanted to just stand up in the dark.
I said, Everybody stop doing that.
Stopped.
All of the angels are getting hit by buses.
Stop.
Stopped. Every time. Like you have like these are people with pro iPhones.
Like I see they got the three X,
they got or not three X. They got two X,
four X. I'm like, hit one of those.
Anyway. That was
We do not
deserve this technology, Steven.
No, we no, we deserve it. I w I use those lenses all the time.
I hit four X and then I hit I started the video and it was pretty amazing.
I post on social media like the difference between like my seat versus
the eight even the eight X zoom,
it's very good now. It's very good.
Yeah. Especially with enough light.
That's the thing. And but I was in a low light condition and it was
it was still very good. yeah, yeah,
Yeah, but there was lights on the stage.
There's plenty, plenty light, plenty of light.
yeah, for sure. Yeah, of course.
Yeah. I'm not taking a picture of like pure pure darkness.
Yeah. So camera thing. This is like whose line is anyway.
Your darkness.
The points don't matter. I'll say ~ you and I are a four for updated camera.
No, that's a five. They're gonna it's a new camera app.
that's a five. Okay, okay, very good.
a hundred absolutely.
We'll
go with that. Now this part I'm a little I have mixed feelings about because
in addition to an updated camera app,
they're going to put more Apple intelligence or AI features in photos,
like photo editing, which we already have like cleanup and the subject removal,
but we might see yeah, you know.
Extend, enhance, and reframe.
Extend, enhance, and reframe, which enhance and re
It'll
allow you to generate additional content beyond the original frame.
It'll make enhance just makes your photos pop a little more.
That that
That's whatever, fine. And then reframe is meant to let you shift
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
the perspective of a spatial photo after the picture is taken,
which is never going to be used because no one actually takes spatial photos.
You just go in the vision pro and say make it a spatial scene.
But no one who's not used a vision pro is ever gonna take a spatial photo.
Yeah, that's true.
Well, I don't I take spatial video sometimes.
Very rarely, but I will do that sometimes.
even think I knew that was a thing.
Spatial video? ~ but isn't that like the weird creepy thing that's just like
Yes.
in a little box in their mo yeah,
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did it when ~
that's weird. Yeah, don't do that.
my I was at the skate park and we wanted to see what it would look like when
my kids my sons were like jumping off a ramp.
And so we did it then and I did it a couple of times and like at Christmas when
we were like opening gifts because or excuse me,
GIFs because you could kind of I don't know,
it's it's kind of a cool feeling or a cool cool s anyway.
I think they are gonna add more of these photo features.
I don't like the whole expanding the frame because then we're talking about
generating content. Anyway.
Yeah, but they're definitely
gonna do it. It's five out of five.
Yeah, they're definitely gonna do it.
They're five out of five. The AI AI Health Coach.
So, you know, Google Health and the Fitbit Air came out recently.
And Apple already has the workout buddy,
which is kind of ish, this not really a coach per se.
It's more like a motivational speaker.
Saying like, great job. ~ which I don't think I've used workout buddy once.
I mean, I've gone on walks, but it it's never talked to me.
So it's it's like you're still walking.
Great job.
Right.
Usually it's like do you want to pause your workout?
I'm like, No, I'm still walking.
What am I not going fast enough?
Right, exactly. Like Right, exactly.
It's like you seem to be taking a break.
Don't like just stop hassling me,
workout buddy. But
I'm like, No, I'm not. Yeah.
I'm just walking slow.
but yeah, the AI this feels again like the AI powered health coach.
This could play into like AirPods feature.
I could see them talking about this during the AirPods feature where they
may talk you know, they're you already got the health heart rate
in AirPods Pro three, AI powered health coach maybe giving you insights
and trends saying like, Hey, maybe,
you know, don't get that frosted lemonade today.
No, it's not gonna say that stuff like that,
but you know.
I think that this is a I think this is more like a three.
I think it's fifty fifty whether this is gonna 'cause we've heard stories that
they've scaled back. Well, it's I mean that's what the headline of this is.
~ some of their AI powered plans for health.
And that's because it's tricky because you don't want to make a promise.
Right? They don't want to be like,
Right.
Okay, you seem to be walking slower and your heartbeat's going faster,
maybe you should go to the doctor.
Right? It's one thing when it's like AFib detection,
Right.
which is like objective. It's like
Right.
You have
AFib, you should definitely go to the doctor.
But I think I don't know. I think that there's a lot and Apple
is super cautious about this kind of thing.
That is yeah, that is true. I'm gonna agree with you on the three.
It's iffy, it's iffy. More home screen tools,
like the ability to undo and redo widget stuff.
That feels long needed because you sometimes you place a widget on that home screen
and just blows up everything. And so yeah,
maybe an undo redo. I think there'll be more home screen tools in general.
There's all that's they always put more home screen tools because it's what ninety
There always does.
percent of people that's like that's what WWDC is.
It's like, cool, they made a new way for me to customize and ruin my home screen.
I don't know. So we'll say five out five.
Also create wallet passes. There's been a lot of third party apps that allow
you to make a quasi pass in the wallet app,
whether it was like a gym membership or a loyalty program.
And if you have a QR code or a picture of it,
then you can kind of make this like weird generic pass for it.
And rumors are this is Mark Erman at Bloomberg saying they're it's gonna
be an official thing. Like you can make wallet passes now from your stuff.
This feels like yeah, five out of five.
I think this is coming.
Sure.
This is like feels like the super low hanging fruit that they like
to talk about because it's like,
Yes.
see we did a thing and you're like,
I don't actually know what you did,
but thanks so much.
That's
it. That's I think yeah.
And then there's some Mac features and more Apple Intelligence stuff like organizing
Safari tabs and naming tab groups automatically.
That feels like an easy Apple Intelligence.
Sure, they'll probably do something like that.
You agree?
Sure,
I don't even know what this means,
but y 'cause I don't use Safari,
but sure.
I can't I still can't believe that.
revamped AirPod settings. So rather than the like people I guess have complained
that the AirPod settings are a little convoluted in settings app,
so they're gonna like rework all that.
Sure. Settings change pretty often.
Yeah, but they don't usually get better.
Let's just be honest. Okay.
Well that's what I'm saying. Just changing.
Not necessarily better. Yeah,
we'll do that. Enhanced autocorrect.
My wife still complains about and I I just experienced it too.
Auto correct on the iPhone is still struggling.
Does it still
If they only
do one thing, they have to do this,
Steven.
They have to fix fix the keyboard.
Do you still have like do you experience issues like that?
Sometimes, but th the number of posts I see on threads about it,
~ yeah, yeah.
and I don't know if people are just rage baiting,
which is it's threads, so probably.
But like this seems to be a widespread epidemic.
Be like, man, the number of people who like are having this problem
is pretty outrageous. I'd be embarrassed if I worked for Apple.
I see a lot of TikToks not a lot,
but I've seen some TikToks too where people just complaining about
how they don't like their iPhone anymore,
but it's because they have an iPhone thirteen.
And I'm like, Yeah. Hey there's
I mean Apple
doesn't like that one either. You should get a new one.
But they don't want to do that.
Like people are saying they don't want to buy a new phone.
They just want to keep the phone that they have.
And it's like, okay, but it you do realize like it's well,
how many years has it been? Fourteen,
fifteen, sixteen, seven I it's been five years since that phone came out.
That's pretty long time.
yeah, I mean and it probably still works just fine.
My son is rocking an eleven pro and it's great.
The only thing I hate about it is I constantly forget that you can't
Right.
do the touch the two things together the E T phone home thing to airdrop with
a with a eleven pro. Where you bring the two phones together and
~ yeah, yeah, yeah. The top yeah.
it does airdrop because I don't think it has NFC no,
it must have it 'cause it has Apple Pay,
but so I've just Is that what it is?
Yeah, but it doesn't have the name drop it probably doesn't have the
it doesn't have the ultra wideband chip.
That's what that's what allows for the name drop,
I don't know, but I mean like I constantly forget that.
yeah.
But
It still works fine. I mean the battery's at like sixty two percent,
Yeah. Yeah,
but whatever.
well you know, that happens. That happens.
Okay, and last couple things, then we'll go into more of our personal hopes
and dreams. iPad OS twenty seven maybe having window refinement,
which they changed the windowing last dub dub.
I initially bemoaned the loss of slide over and split view,
and then they added that back in I in future iPad OS twenty six updates.
Well they might do even more, more window stuff,
refining it even more.
That probably feels like the three minute iPad segment is probably just gonna
be that like here's some other window features and probably nothing else,
which I'm gonna be upset about because I'm wanting a lot of things on the iPad,
Sure.
which we're gonna talk about in a second.
But yeah, sure.
I
I don't know what they're gonna do,
but this is definitely a five out of five because they do some kind
of new iPad window thing every year.
A hundred percent of the time they're gonna just it's it's just gonna change
That's the one thing they consistently change.
Yeah.
it because that way they can change it.
I will say it'd be nice if they streamlined stage manager versus windowing versus
not. Because I f sometimes I wonder like is this stage manager?
Is this just windowing? I feel like it's confusing,
but maybe that's just
It does not have to
be confusing. Just never turn on stage manager.
Yeah, but but the windowing, I want the windowing and like that's when
I tap the control in the control center,
it just goes to stage manager.
I think you have to tap and hold and then you can choose like windowing
specifically.
I use the windowing and I don't go anywhere near Stage Manager.
But do you ever go into full screen app mode?
Sure, you just hit the little red I mean green button.
Yeah, but there's a difference between that and actual full screen mode.
Right, so leave it turned off.
Here's the pr here's the one problem.
You don't have to worry about it.
Here's one bug, and I don't know if it's the app or iPad OS twenty six.
I use universal control a lot from my Mac to my iPad for moving chapter artwork over
for this show and moving audio files into Ferrite on the iPad.
I do that every day for like primary tech daily.
And for some reason, Ferrite,
if I'm in windowing mode,
And I try to drag a file using universal control from my Mac to my iPad.
Something weird happens and the Ferrite app like pops into some weird shape
and I can't drag a file. So I have to go into full screen app mode just
to drag a file into Ferrite. And then I will exit it.
And so I basically have a shortcut automation where when Ferrite opens,
go into full screen mode, and when Ferrite closes,
go into stage manager. But I dun like it's anyway.
Why don't you just import it from iCloud?
Like it's already isn't it already in iCloud?
Way
slower. I do this every day. Universal control dragging it over into ferrite
way faster than
Doesn't sound
like you just described fifteen minutes of rigor marole you have to do
It's just a shortcut automation right now.
in order to make it work.
I just would love to not have to have that automation
so I can keep it in windowing mode.
But it is it is way faster. Trust me.
Trust me. And I don't know what they're gonna change.
So last thing, I don't know what they're gonna change about macOS,
but just do something. D do something design wise,
some design tweaks. That's what the rumors are that there's gonna
be some design tweaks or whatever.
Do something. That's all I'm saying.
Yeah, I mean I'm I would prefer they don't do anything,
not because I think it's great,
but because the history has not moved in a positive direction.
Listen, we're not gonna have Alan Dyde talking about liquid glass this year,
so do you think we'll see Steven LeMay?
Right, but we're s but we're still gonna have liquid glass.
Yeah, no, we we're s we're still gonna have liquid glass.
That's not going away a year later.
Do you think we'll see we'll see Stephen LeMay during the keynote at all?
The new head of the You think so?
Sure. Psh,
no, because they're not introducing a new interface design.
A new face.
But they gotta talk about yeah,
that's true.
I mean, we
really only see Ellen die when they do the dynamic island and they do liquid glass.
Like I can't think of another time.
Unless
unless okay, last ~ prediction rating before we get to our wishes,
do you think they will announce a new app for one of the platforms?
Periodically we get something like the journal app and that gets a big,
you know, moment. ~
Well the Siri app. If they
do the Siri app, then yes.
Okay, and when they do an app,
they usually have someone announce it and talk about the design.
That could be a place where they kind of stick Stephen LeMay,
not in like a main featured a part,
but they're like, You can talk about the design in relation to this
app kind of thing. Maybe?
it's gonna be whoever's in charge of Siri.
All right, I'm gonna say we're gonna see Stephen LeMay.
I'm I'm gonna say yes, and you say no,
we're not gonna see him. Okay,
Sure.
we'll see who's right. We'll see his right.
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All right. So our hopes and dreams for Dubdub.
Now there is a couple let me let me go down to my notion there.
You wrote an entire article, because you're an app developer now,
about what you would hope for at Dubdub.
I'll share the Apple News article so everybody can read it.
Tell us about your hopes and dreams.
Well I just wanted
Here's the tough thing. There's this ba like there's this
Mm-hmm.
balance. I mean, arguably WWDC,
it's a developer conference. But all of the none of the things that
Yes.
we just mentioned are developer features.
All of these rumors are consumer facing features,
right? Do we get a new camera app?
Do we see a redesigned thing? Do we get a new Siri app?
Do we whatever? All that stuff's fine,
but that's not really the point of WWDC.
point of WWDC should be, well,
is argu like at least nominally to explain all of the things that are coming
to the thing to the new operating system so developers can either build apps
or tailor their apps for those things.
So there are two things I would like to see.
One, I would like them to finally figure out this stupid app intense thing,
right? Because that is the core promise that they made in twenty twenty four
was that there would be a framework
And we've already seen whatever MCP,
all those different like this is this is a problem that can be solved.
The question is, will Apple solve it in a way,
well, will they solve it at all?
Will their desire to do it in a very particular way defeat them or will they
be able to figure it out? Or will they just adopt something else?
Right? Any of those things are possible.
But that is what will allow you to s to say to Dingus,
hey Dingus, I know that I had a note in Bayer from whatever.
Can you just remind me what the name I wrote down was or something like that?
Like that's what you want to be able to do.
Yeah. Yeah.
That is the killer feature. You can do this in Claude.
You can do it in cloud right now.
You can do, you can do all these other things.
Yeah.
Like, whatever. It's just, you know,
I so that's I really want to see them figure that out.
I know that there's an argument that like developers may not want
to adopt this because they don't want you to just be able to shout out and be like,
replace my DoorDash order, right?
Like I get it. They want you to open the DoorDash app or whatever.
That's fine. I make an app, I'm happy for this to work.
Why? Because it makes my app super useful and it makes it more likely that
you would store all of your information in it if you could get information
out just by like who was at that meeting as a at yesterday,
right? Either it can find it on the calendar or it can find it in like my app.
Okay, what were the three things that I said I was going to do from that meeting?
Like I just want you to be able to talk to Siri and get all that information
out of the app. That to me is the promise.
So that's one. I want to see them figure that out.
And then the second one.
is I want them to make the private cloud compute version of foundation models,
so the good version available via API to developers.
Sure.
Cause right now, the only Apple Intelligence thing that developers can
use is on device. And it ain't great.
I mean, for my app, I've been able to tailor it in a way that it what it is doing,
it's mostly capable of doing summarizing,
pulling out to dos, except the context window on the on-device
Apple intelligence model is like 4,000 tokens,
right? whatever. It's like a very,
very small window. Yeah. So I have to build into the pro plan version,
allow open AI. So it was really important to me to be able to have a privacy story,
which was all this stuff happens on device.
I don't even own any servers. I don't have anything to do with any of this.
I'm not storing your data. It's all in CloudKit.
I'm not processing anything. I'm not doing any of that stuff.
But
The Apple Intelligence model is too small.
So I am gonna make it possible for you to just y it's just one one option,
allow open AI. Which all that means is if the model if it's if your note
is too big for Apple Intelligence to handle it,
it'll just you don't have to sign into OpenAI,
it just does it in the background.
It doesn't remember any information,
it's just doing that processing for you.
There's no reason that that shouldn't just be Gemini on a private cloud compute
ser compute server somewhere and make that available to a developer.
That will change the
Th that will change what we can see in small d apps in
a way that we have not seen on the iPhone in a long time.
Because right now you have to figure like I had to build a a Cloudflare
co worker worker and I had to get secret keys and I had to build
Yes.
all these things and I had to do it all.
Yes.
That's fine. I figured it all out.
But man, it would be so much easier if I could just be like,
if small, do on device, if not,
send a private cloud compute. So
Yes. And I think
we had several people reach out and developers wanting something like that,
you know, the similar building that into to I was twenty seven.
So we'll see. yeah, yeah.
And charge for it. This is a totally reasonable
thing to charge for. Did you hear that there's a rumor that they may charge
for the Siri app intense thing to expose your app to Siri?
You may have to pay over time.
They have not come I guess the report is they have not committed to not charging.
But listen, this is Apple. Apple is literally literally never going to commit
to not charging you for something.
Eve even if they're never gonna charge you for something,
Right.
they're not going to commit to not doing it.
They're keeping their options open,
people.
Right. I mean that's that sounds strange,
but anyway. You remember y Apple used to charge for software updates?
You used to have to buy OS ten upgrades in a hundred and twenty little plat
Yeah, a hundred and twenty dollars for a lion or whatever.
in a little box from the Apple store.
I think I still have my snow leopard
Comp
USA. I've been to Comp USA and bought several updates.
There you go. All right, so those are those are great suggestions.
So you can I now have a a rather lengthy list of my desires,
and you can agree or poo-poo any of these.
But for iPad OS and also iOS,
usually these kinds of features go to both.
But I'm hoping for some kind of API for clipboard managers
and text expander expansion type apps,
but using the built-in keyboard.
Like I don't want to use a third-party keyboard just for features like text
expander.
It's not a good experience. I'm never going to switch keyboards.
And I've hacked a shortcut to kind of be a clipboard manager for me.
I shared it in my action button video where if I have if I hit copy on my iPhone,
I hit my action button, I run the shortcut,
I can save whatever's on my clipboard to a data jar,
and then I can do the same thing and then retrieve anything from that data
jar list and put it back on my clipboard.
So I kind of have like this quasi clipboard manager,
but it's a pain in the butt. I would love for there to be just
a built-in clipboard manager.
Which they brought it to Mac OS last year for the first time.
It was the first time Apple had a first party clipboard manager on
the Mac built right in Spotlight.
And there's actually been a few times where I'm on my iPad and I will command space
to do spotlight and I'll do command space four to try and get to my clipboard.
And I have to remember, that's not here on the iPad.
So I am hopeful that we'll see some kind of clipboard manager on the iPad,
maybe even the iPhone. And also on the iPad,
that control center, use more of the screen.
I don't need a tiny little control center.
Like the iPad is a huge screen.
At least double even if you don't want to go full screen on that control center
for iPad, at least make it a little bigger.
Like wo like two thirds of the screen or something.
~ do you want either of those things?
I think it
I mean clipboard
manager's great. I everybody should love a clipboard manager.
Yeah. I mean, I don't think that I have ever felt like I was missing that
on my iPhone, but it's probably just because I've conditioned myself
to not anticipate that capability.
I also realize that more often than not,
I'm just kinda scopy things from my Mac to my phone.
Yeah, universal clipboard's great.
And there's a clip and there's a clipboard manager on my Mac.
Yeah. Yeah.
So I essentially I get a clipboard manager on my iPhone for free.
It's just a little bit less
See, of things I do all the time is I will post something to a social media app,
but then I have a link that I want to share,
but I do it in two steps because either I'm not gonna post the link directly
in the post on threads because they're gonna down algorithm that post.
So I'll have the post on my clipboard and then maybe I'll cross post
it to other platforms, and then I need to get the URL and I have to you know,
sometimes I do it out of order.
This also a lot of times with Instagram reels,
I'll post a reel with a caption.
But then I need to set up a many chat automation with a URL.
And then I need to go to TikTok and do the same thing.
And so I'd love to just have a clipboard manager where I just can see have
it all there. And I could just go back and copy whatever.
So I'm hoping I'm hoping for that.
So
for the text expander though, do you just d do you not use
the text replacement built into the keyboard?
I use the text replacement, but Text Expander is so much more than just that.
Like I have text snippets that insert the current date or adjust the date
Sure.
and insert that. So for top five tech,
it's my weekly show that comes out every Friday.
where I tell It was,
Which is like a top sixty podcast already.
yeah, it's obviously the text everybody.
Yeah. but yeah, please leave a five star anyway review 'cause some I don't know,
apparently somebody didn't like it.
But anyway. ~ it's a four minute podcast.
It's a fake it's it's it it's a fake podcast,
How do you not like it? It's a fake podcast,
that's why.
that's right. But no, Text Expander,
you like for Top Five Tech, I have a little snippet
Where when I title my bear note,
I title the campaign name where I send the email out that I do semicolon
TFT for top five tech and it expands to say top five tech spelled out,
line separator, and then today or Friday's date.
So it adjusts the date. So if I'm doing it on Thursday,
it'll still be Friday's date and things like that.
You can't do that with text replacements.
You can't do those you can't have like the clipboard,
which I've done. I do this a lot too with text expander,
where whatever's on my clipboard
insert it into this text string and then expand that whole string.
And that's something that text replacements can't do.
So I want that kind of stuff. Like let text expander just be there
in behind the scenes like it is on my Mac on my iPad and iPhone.
That's probably less likely to happen,
Sure. Yeah.
but I want it. That's you know.
All right. Mail. I know you don't use the stock mail app,
but I do. And this is from Ogenio on X.
Their requests are snooze for messages.
That's
Great. great. Not just for mail,
but I think for messages too. Like,
I'd need to keep this message on read,
but I don't want to see the badge for the next eight hours.
Can I snooze this text message?
That would be amazing. I mean we have scheduled messages now,
so maybe we could do that. Also,
when a user is sharing their location,
this is from Ogenio, show time zone in iMessage.
That's a pretty cool feature. I had not thought of that.
And the mail, I've been moaning about this long time.
Mail does not have a good snooze feature.
They have the remind me feature.
Which doesn't take the message out of your inbox.
It literally just, ~ sorry. I'm gonna leave it in.
It lit but it actually all it does is put like a little reminder.
It's fine.
So for whenever you said remind me,
it sends you a notification about that mail at a certain time of the day.
But actual snooze, like in every other email app,
it removes the message from your inbox and then makes it reappear at
the time that you're snoozing to.
I want that still in stock mail.
And I use Sane Later folders for this.
Yeah.
Which works great in a stock mail,
but you use Spark, which isn't so you just have
It's
spark is amazing.
Yeah, Spar, yeah, I'm I know it's great.
It's great. It's great. Also, more of shortcuts actions for mail
and ~ automation triggers for mail.
We could get into the detail. I'm gonna talk about shortcuts.
Yeah, let's talk about that. I have a ton of shortcuts requests.
I'm not gonna go I'm not gonna go through it all.
Matthew Casanelli, shortcuts guru.
I learned so much from him. He requested sh folder groups in shortcuts or tags,
which is a great idea because guys like Matthew and I have tons of shortcuts folders
And I'd love to be able to group those folders in certain ways.
So I could put like podcasts and I could put my primary Tech Mac Power Users
and Top Five Tech Shortcuts folders in a folder or tag them in a certain way.
So that's a great suggestion. There's also a bunch of different triggers that
I'm hoping for. We've not had new automation triggers in a long time.
Things like when a phone call comes in,
do this. So I would love phone call automation trigger,
weather triggers. So rather than have to set up a bunch of if statements,
just say like when the temperature rises above this degree.
do this. Automation weather triggers,
repeat hourly triggers. A lot I get a lot of requests from I want this
to run every hour, but in shortcuts right now,
you l have to set it up every hour.
You have to say run at 8 a.m. daily,
run at 9 a.m. daily, run at 10 a.m.
daily. Automation repeats to go every hour.
I actually had someone in my shortcuts community say they want a shortcut
to run every five minutes, which sounds wild,
but it's because they wanted to put information in an Apple note so they have
a report at the end of the day.
Of some current status on their phone,
that makes a ton of sense. So repeating automations more than just daily would
be great. I have a bunch of home kit sensor requests like door left open
automations. Let me be up rather than do an if statement and wait commands
and shortcuts, let me just set a notification for if this door is left open.
Better reminders actions. And this is a side note.
I'm I'm playing around with craft.
Have you ever played around with craft,
Jason?
Yeah, everybody does. Everybody goes through that phase.
You do obsidian, then you do craft,
then you go back to notes for a while,
then you try notion, then you go back to notes for a while,
and then you end up at contextly and it's great.
I was wondering where you're gonna land on that.
Makes sense. I'm I I've tried craft craft in the past,
Yeah. ~
and this is C R A F T, not the cheese,
not the K. But Kraft has come a long way.
Correct.
I jumped in there because someone asked for a craft shortcut,
and I was like, Wow, this design is really nice right now,
and it feels very native and it works great on the iPhone.
And they added can ban view boards,
which is how I do my video stuff.
And you were the one telling me you can't believe that my video project management
is in reminders. I'm like, well.
Craft might be good deal. And so I wanted to try to move all my reminders
to craft and just see like how that could go.
But Claude can't talk to reminders natively.
There's no connector for Apple Reminders.
And so what I did, Jason, yesterday,
sitting on my patio, did you see Federico Fitti released
RemCT L?
Yeah, definitely not.
This is he built a CLI for Claude and OpenAI to talk to Apple Reminders.
And so I will put the article in the show notes.
He's Vitich is just building wild stuff over there now.
He just he really shortcuts playground.
Then last week he just released REM CTL.
But if you install this and get it running,
it allows Claude or OpenAI to do all the reminders things.
Create, view, edit, change.
It does it all.
I got this working. I could not tell you how to repeat the process because
I have no idea what I did. I just kept asking Claude Code,
can you make it work? What do I need to do?
Like, tell me what to try. And to Claude's credit,
Yeah.
that's all you have to do, and it will walk you through it.
And eventually it was working.
And then I asked Claude Code, Okay,
buddy, move all my reminders from my video projects list into craft
in the same Kanban style, using the same column names.
Can you do that? And it said, I got it,
bro. Not verbatim, but basically.
And then it just did it, Jason.
And this one, it amazed me. Two,
I'm gonna be checking into craft now because I was also building shortcuts using
their API and it's pretty easy and great.
And C, or three, I forget which I did,
it did make me realize like the switching cost to try a
new productivity app is much lower now than it has been.
Because you can ask ~
Claude or whoever, just move all my stuff and make it look like it does here,
and it can just do it. And then you can try using a different app
for a little while. And then when you want to go back or try something else,
you can be now make it look like this is the the updated version,
make it look like that. And I'm like,
you can there's no more, no more are the days where you have to manually build your
system in another app and just to try it.
Like you can just ask AI to do it.
I thought that was cool.
Yeah, counterpoint that friction was a good thing because it stopped people from
Yeah.
just having cruft everywhere. And no,
Yeah Yeah. Thank you.
I mean this sincerely. First of all,
I'm excited for you. ~ craft wasn't for me,
but not because it's bad, just because what I'm about to say.
I am very easily tempted to try all the things.
And I do have to try lots of things because in order for me to like write about
Yeah.
something, I have to spend some time with it,
right?
But the fact that there's so much friction involved,
I think is actually a good thing.
Because it's like, do you have a system?
I mean, in all fairness, if reminders works for you,
I think that that's an abomination.
I think that's insane. But I think you should stick with it because it
is such a critical piece of your workflow.
Sure. Sure.
Right. It is so important to what you do every day.
And it's not just what you do every day,
because you also make coffee every day,
but that is not like how you feed your children,
right? It might be how you work yourself up to do the stuff that feeds your
Sure, sure.
children, but
It's important.
It is important.
Listen, my kids
joke that I turn coffee I turn ~ coffee into words and I turn words into money
and then we spend most of the money on coffee.
So it's just a cycle. But but but w in in reality,
The circle of life.
most people sp who are enthusiasts and like to tinker spend so much time
and energy trying to try out a new system when in reality it might be cool and fun.
But I think that friction was good because there was a there was a barrier.
It was like that was built into how much better the new thing had to be
to make it worth actually switching.
Yeah. Yeah.
And now if you can just switch willy nilly back and forth,
like how much time do people spend doing that?
And I'm just no, this is why I mean this is why I still I mean the only reason
I made a new notes app is because there was an actual gap and hole in what
I was doing. And I don't know.
Right.
I just that's my only the friction was good.
That's all I'm saying.
I'm inclined to agree. Like it would have taken an entire weekend before
if you wanted to switch your productivity or project management app,
and now it'll just take like fifteen minutes.
And maybe that lack of friction is not great.
But it's gonna get me to try craft again.
So it's great for them, I guess.
Sure. Sure.
But in the in that same vein, this was another post on social media.
This was Rowan saying shortcut actions for scheduling messages.
Great suggestion.
So you can schedule messages now,
but you can't do it through shortcuts.
It would be great to schedule them through shortcuts.
Automation triggers for reminders and calendar items coming due.
This is a huge one. Would love this.
The calendar items is big because so many times people have asked me
for a shortcut that will activate a focus mode during a calendar event.
And while you can sometimes you see the suggestion on the lock screen
and your iPhone will proactively say activate focus mode now.
People want to do it automatically and not have to think about it.
And in order to do that right now with iOS 26,
you have to create an automation that runs every hour that checks for
an event on your calendar. And if there's an event,
activate a focus mode and turn it off after that event is over.
It would be great to just have an automation trigger to say when
a calendar event starts on these calendars,
do this. Maybe it's activate a focus mode,
maybe it's start a voice memo,
maybe it's whatever. Like that would be great.
And also, Rowan says shortcuts actions for find my.
I want to ping my AirPods from my watch.
That's a great suggestion too.
There's not really any find my actions in shortcuts right now for people or items,
and that would be great. So great recommendations there.
Also, this is from Inman.
he's going on to Vision Pro. I'm just gonna run down some of my other shortcuts ones
and then we'll talk about Vision Pro.
Do you still use it every day?
Vision Pro? Ye you did you?
Every day I've used it already t already today.
That's amazing. Slash shortcuts actions,
rapid fire.
Currently playing media. I'd love to be able to discover like,
is a podcast playing? Is a YouTube video playing?
What app is playing audio? And then be able to do if statements based
on what media is currently playing.
That would be nice. The ~ an Apple TV.
Like when Apple TV turns on, do this.
You you can set up automations to turn on Apple TV in shortcuts and automations,
but you can't make an Apple TV turning on as a trigger,
and that'd be great because then I can just hit the Apple TV remote to wake
my Apple TV and it runs like my movie scene.
And just everything, you know,
run a home cutscene or whatever.
So there's that. I would also love password.
This is now moving out of shortcuts,
but password app categories. So the passwords app in iOS 26 to be able
to put like bank accounts, software licenses.
I would love to be able to keep all that there.
Like I do in one password. And I think you'll agree on this screen time.
Just fix screen time. Barn, just
Yes. A hundred
percent. If you don't say anything else the rest of this time,
a hundred percent endorsement.
That's
But can't you why don't you just use secure notes for those things?
You can lock it's not the same,
No, it's not it's not the same.
but it is the th that's that's the thing.
But like the password app makes it easy to copy and paste specific fields,
like one tap copy your password,
copy your email, or autofill information.
I would love for that to be built into the the passwords app.
Because I do that a lot. I would let me know what you think of this.
I would love a standalone screen time app where you can manage your kids' requests,
the screen time settings, and just all the screen time information because there's
so much buried in that one settings pane.
I feel like it deserves its own app.
And then notifications can come through screen time app rather than
in s dumb message conversations.
And then Right.
Yeah, that, by the way, is the worst thing that they've done.
I will say
the best thing that they've done is the notification you get when your child uses
a screen time password and you didn't even know that they had figured it out.
That is an excellent, excellent point.
Best
thing they've done, although it to me is a little bit like they put the
AI on the videos in YouTube. It's like,
no, we're done. We told you we don't actually have to fix this.
We just let you know that it's even more broken.
Right.
Yeah. But but a standalone screen time app,
what do you think about that? You think that's a good idea?
I do worry about the idea this philosophy that everything needs to
be in a standalone app.
Sure, but like screen time specifically,
because there's so much associated with it.
Screen time, Siri,
we got a passwords app, we got like this there is a little bit of there
Yeah. Bloat? App Bloat?
is a little bit of bloat coin.
I think.
Yeah. It's like why you gotta pre install this bloat on my device when
you hand it to me.
screen time app, there's so much going on there.
Same thing's true with passwords,
same thing's true with Siri.
But that also like requires
notifications and approvals and interaction and like to be able to in
a focus mode say, you know what,
I don't want to get screen time requests right now.
Like I want to, when I'm filming this video,
not see a request for Plex. For one for once,
I want to go through a video recording and not see a request.
You know what I mean?
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, as a parent who just has mostly given up and said,
Whatever, children, just like let me know if you get lost out there on the internet.
No, I'm exc I I I agree with you.
I get that feel. I get I get that sentiment though.
Totally
get it. ~ Mac OS, I just want to point out last year,
one of my big requests last year was macOS Shortcuts Automations,
and we did get that, which is wonderful.
~ would also like to see this is not macOS specific,
but iCloud slash HomeKit fit like just add all the home
kit secure video features, like up to 4K cameras in iCloud Secure,
Home Kit Secure Video, Pan and Tilt Close.
Give us a web interface for seeing recordings from our home kit secure video.
We need all of that. It's been ye I've been asking it for literally,
literally years. Because I've been asking for it since HomeKit Insider days,
and we're still not there. So it's at least five plus years.
Hopefully we see that. Also, better home pod management would be nice.
All of that. But let's talk about Vision OS,
because you use it every day. This request came in from listener.
And viewer, Inman33X. Jason and I may be the only ones that want continued support
for a Vision OS. No, I want to see it too.
New environments, new content,
sports for Vision Pro, which I feel like Apple's doing a little bit more of.
I would love to see more environments.
I think I mentioned that last year.
Last year I wanted a YouTube app and we did get that eventually.
But more immersive content. Yeah.
Well, what would you like to see from Vision OS?
I would
like environments to be portable.
Like I want to be able to read my mail and in Avengers Tower,
which is an environment in the Disney Plus app.
~ yeah, sure. Yes, yes,
But I want them I want developers to just like 'cause wouldn't it be amazing
yes.
if you could just have an app like think about that.
Like somebody could just make an app with a bunch of amazing environments
and you could be like doing your Slack in Times Square or whatever.
That would be nice.
You
Like I'm just I don't know. Also,
Yeah.
I want them to do more of what you and I talked about.
Like I want there to be worlds you can explore.
I don't know how you do that because moving is complicated.
Yeah.
Like you can't just be walking around your living room and then you break your shin
because you tried to walk whatever.
Use a controller, you know, like pair it with a controller.
Yeah, there's a little bit of emotion sickness that happens there when you're
in an immersive thing and in and you it's like my kid can't play Minecraft
Yeah.
in the car because bad things happen.
Well, you know, yeah, the double motion or whatever.
But that would be cool. That would be cool.
And I've they have not launched they did Jupiter last year.
That was the one new environment I feel like.
And it'd be nice if they added way more.
I I just think there is this abil when you are able to take someone and
put them in a different place.
There is so much you could do with that.
And I just feel like we haven't gotten to that.
Did you listen to Adam Lissingor on the talk show recently?
Yes. Yes.
Just like lit that guy, I don't know.
Any he is way more into the Vision Pro than I am.
Like, let's just be honest. He thinks this is amazing.
He's he's very bullish. He's very bullish.
And I agree that it's amazing.
I just don't think anyone else is gonna think it's amazing,
Yeah.
especially not at that price. And
It's just so heavy. But like they could solve the heavy by just getting
Yeah. But
rid of the front eyeballs.
And make it out of plastic. Just yeah,
That's what I'm saying. Make it out of plastic and get rid of those
yeah. Yeah.
front eyeballs. Guess what I never ever do,
Steven? Wear my Vision Pro in a place where the eyeballs are necessary.
Never. No.
Well, you never wore it on you never wore it on a plane.
You could have had the flight attendant looking at your googly eyes.
S Steven, I have actually talked to flight attendants recently.
I have not met a flight attendant who has seen someone on a plane.
The only people who wear them on planes are YouTubers for the views.
And you, Jason. It could be you.
Tonight. You're flying tonight.
It's I'm not a YouTuber. No.
Are you taking it tonight?
First of all, I'm only going for 48 hours.
So when am I gonna have vision pro time?
That's wild.
You you're one of the few people who are like,
I'm gonna travel internationally,
but for forty eight hours.
I'm going
to Monaco, I'm gonna get there tomorrow and I'm gonna fly home Thursday.
I gotta keep graduating.
That's wild.
I know, no, you gotta be there for that.
No, I know. It's just it's wild.
All right. I'm gonna rapid fire.
I said that before, but I'm gonna do that now for all of
our other listener requesters.
Dan Mill said, attach files to reminders,
100%. And deep link support. This is huge.
If you want to do shortcuts and you try to do more productivity stuff,
there are links to things like an Apple note and a reminder,
and Apple obscures those. It is so hard to get those.
And you know they exist because you can drag a note into a reminder or vice versa,
and there'll be like a little icon there that then you can tap and it'll bring
you to the other piece of content.
But there's no way to like right click and say,
give me the deep link to this note.
Because if you could do that and if they put it in shortcuts actions,
then you could do all kinds of amazing things.
Like if I want to create a new video project.
So create a new reminder here,
create an Apple note tied to that reminder,
add the you know, you could do a whole bunch of stuff.
So deep linking.
Huge, huge deal. Recommend. I'm also gonna link this from ~ listener tech
by Taz. He had a great article about some of his wishes.
He wants more of a snow leopard year,
which I do agree. We do need a lot of like stability,
bug fix improvements, things like that.
So hopefully we will see that.
And no, I don't want to continue on Instagram.
Greg C.tech on threads said home screen,
he wants the ability to remove app names without making them bigger.
Totally agree.
More control over home screen sizing and app layout.
Also agree. If you take if you make large app icons on the Pro Max phone
and you remove the search little box that appears on the home screen,
there is a Grand Canyon space between the bottom apps and your dock.
So 100% it would be great to to have more options there.
Be able to change the dock based on focus modes.
I love that idea because the dock is persistent no matter how many different focus
modes and home screens you make,
it would be nice to change those.
And of course, more shortcuts actions,
100%. So that'd be fun. Ryan off on Blue Sky said ability to hide the dock
on iOS twenty seven. More widget sizes.
That would be cool. Even like a one by one widget,
kind of like a shortcuts ~ app icon.
Transparent widget backgrounds with no borders.
You there's you have to get do like hacky stuff to kind of achieve that right now.
Lower app store commissions. Sorry,
Ryan. There's no way. There's there's no way to get lower app store commissions.
But Ryan also said he sent me a DM on threads.
And would love to be able to code an app on iPhone or iPad,
which we talked about after Google I.O.,
like Google AI Studio, they're launching that app for both Android and iPhone.
So you can vibe code apps on the device you're building it for.
It would be nice to see that come to the Apple devices as well.
Yeah, okay. So I don't know. I mean I don't I that I don't really f the iPad,
You don't think so?
sure, because it's in theory powerful enough to do that.
But I don't I think I'm trying to think of what the benefit of that is,
'cause like the iPhone is not a great platform for coding apps.
I guess maybe because then you could run them on device without having
to do the weird physical connection or uploading that them to App Store Connect just
Yeah.
to download it on your phone. Like I get that.
That is annoying and takes a while but
There's that,
but also if you're doing it more with an agent than manually,
if you maybe you're using the app that you're building and you're testing
it and you come across a bug to be able to swip you know,
swipe over to Xcode Mobile or whatever.
I mean there is X Clo cloud.
Yeah, but to be able to
The
w it's the same thing.
On device? Like you can go to that website you're saying.
Well, I'm saying you can go to X
yeah, I mean what my point is for that use case there is a solution.
Yeah.
But it would be nice to just go over to the app on your phone,
type in the bug fix prompt to whatever AI chatbot building your app,
and then reinstall the app right and fix the bug immediately basically.
And nothing's gonna be immediately 'cause you're gonna then you're gonna have
Well, no, but J Jas Jason agreed.
to upload it.
If you're watching, you can see Jason kind of agreeing his head but
he didn't want to say it. I saw that happen.
See, exactly. Exactly. All right,
what do you want to do? That was our w hopes and dreams.
That was our listener hopes and dreams.
There was this journalist German talking about what's coming in twenty twenty seven,
We can definitely hold that. That's n we have a year and a half before that's gonna
as he does. Let's hold that.
happen.
And so for personal tech, I already talked about REM CTL,
what the Federico Vitichi Claude thing.
So tell me, you said Claude saved the day.
What'd it do?
Yeah, well it did. I mean
it's done multiple things for me,
but this might be my favorite.
So I for a long time tried to pay my daughter to do a job.
That's I needed someone taking care.
No, I needed something done. And she is a very busy,
very, very, very busy. So like she was never gonna be able to work at Chick-fil-A,
right? Like she just she played soccer,
she just does too many things,
she's playing multiple sports,
whatever. So I I have a job that would be so perfect for you because
I have this thing that I'm terrible at,
but I would like done, which is I use Notion.
I we talked about this last week.
Yes. Yes.
I keep all of my articles in there.
And typically when I am I there's a couple of reasons for this.
There was a time when I had a research assistant,
so I would create something in there,
I would put in a description, and then she would do the research for me.
She'd give it all to me, and then I would start writing the article and it's
it was all great. So I would I put ideas into Notion.
I c I have a Kanban board of things I want to work on,
all that kind of stuff. But what usually happens is the I just accumulate
the ideas and then I don't have I I'll write the article and publish it,
but like going back to Notion to do all that stuff is just kind of obnoxious.
Right.
And so I was like, listen, I haven't I have not updated Notion with published links,
traffic, all this stuff in like 18 months.
Madison, who's my oldest daughter,
I'm like, can can I pay you? You can just do this whenever.
Like spend two hours a week doing like whatever.
Right. Yeah.
I'll pay you twenty bucks an hour.
So this is the best gig you're gonna get.
You got a laptop. You can just do it whenever you have time and I will just hand
you a fistful of money.
And I just need the I would just like and it's like super easy.
Yeah. Right, right, right.
Like I just need you to like, title,
go to my author page, find the thing.
It was never gonna happen. And now she's graduating and she's moving out.
So that idea like did not come to fruition.
And then I was like, hang on. You and I talked about like Claude,
Yes.
all this stuff. And I said, I so I just asked I I just asked Claude a question.
I said, and this is an important this is a pro tip,
just all of you. The first thing you should do
Yes.
Anytime
you want to get started with Claude on anything is say,
I have a question. I don't want you to do anything yet.
I just want to know if you can.
Yes.
And if so, tell me how. That that's an important thing to start.
Because otherwise you ask Claude to do something and it just starts doing stuff.
It just starts doing it, yeah,
I'm like, I want to know what you're gonna do first.
yeah. Yeah, yeah.
So I asked, and it's like, yes,
I can do this. Here's how it would work,
and here's what I need for you.
I can visit your author page and I can just collect every article link.
And I can just match them up with your database entries.
And if there's one that's not in Notion,
which there was like 130 that were not in Notion,
I can just create the create it for you.
I will look at the schema in Notion.
I will do the best to match it.
I might have some questions in the future,
so like let me know. And ~ it did the whole thing.
And it probably imported 175 artic.
No, it probably imported like 275 articles over the last like
16 months that we're not even that I had never even put in Notion because that's
how bad I am at database management.
And so ~ so now I have this full database that is completely accurate back
to like actually at this point it's back accurate back to 2024.
It was mostly accurate before that.
I don't care about anything that's that old.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But Notion has pretty decent AI.
But because it's now connected,
I can just ask Claude, hey, what did I have to say about this?
Or have I written about the time that Tim Cook
did this or have I? Like that one time when Musk and Zuckerberg were gonna fight,
did I write an article about that or did I only think about it?
And it'll be like, well you thought about it and here was the research that
you have and they haven't talked about it in a while.
~ man.
I don't think you really want to write about this.
You know what I mean? Like I can just it's it was amazing.
Yeah.
That is I'm getting to a place where there's been so many benefits
of connecting claw to the different things.
I j I approve all the things. Like every time it says,
I could do this but I need permission,
yeah.
I was like, No problem, buddy.
Approve all.
It's like if I could I would just give
you blanket permission. It's I trust you more than my children.
Clearly. Clearly.
When I w right right when
I was doing the REM CTL from Vitichi and setting it up,
it was like I th Claude was saying I I need I can do this,
but I think I need full disk access.
I don't think it said I think.
It said I need full disk. I was like,
no problem. Just put just tell me what do you what do you need?
Yeah. Where do you want me to put it?
What do you need this folder?
Want me to hand you my disc and put it in your pocket?
You can have the whole thing. Yeah.
You need my password, you need my iCloud password,
you need two factor code, whatever you want.
Let's just do it. It's just so once you
Fall down the rabbit hole. It is pretty amazing just how much can be done.
And I have found if you give it browser,
I'm really close. So one of the things,
I share videos about shortcuts on Instagram and TikTok.
And I want to send a link to people.
And this is why I might end up paying Meta the $50 a month or whatever,
so I can actually put a link on a reel.
We'll have to see. I know, it's ridiculous.
But right now I use the many chat service,
which I'm paying $15 a month anyway,
for that.
So you know, the many chat service,
someone comments a word and the many chat app automatically replies
to their comment and DMs them a link.
It works fine. It is how every creator on Instagram gets links to people,
how they do it. TikTok does not allow this.
Many chat does not work with TikTok in that way.
You can't comment on a TikTok and many chat automatically reply and DM you a link.
It just doesn't have that feature.
And the problem is, I am not going to make two versions of every video.
And so in the video, I say comment shortcut and I'll send you a link.
And then immediately after, I say,
if you're on TikTok, I put the link in the comments,
and here's how to get it. Jason,
just wild guess. Do you think even after I say that in the video,
do people still comment shortcut on TikTok?
Of course. And people get up and people get people get upset because they're like,
Course. Five out of five.
I commented shortcut and you didn't send to me.
And I said, Well, if you if you listen to the words I say,
like if you can listen to the end of the TikTok,
There were more words.
there were more words. I said,
if you're on TikTok, do this, not that.
And I'm but I'm not gonna make two videos.
So I've thought about telling Claude doing a scheduled task,
which you can do. So I could tell Claude to do this every hour,
maybe just once a day, and just say,
Go to my latest TikTok. I post the link in the comments.
So the link that Claude needs could be right there.
And say, Claude, if there's a link,
if there's a shortcut link that I've posted in the comments,
take that link and just reply to every comment that says shortcut with that link.
And I'm pretty sure it will be able to do that.
And I'm very close to just doing it and seeing what happens.
I'm not like I don't care enough about the TikTok account.
I think it's fine. I think it'll be fine.
But I'm also I'm also very close to this is something David Sparks does.
Having Claude do like customer service type tasks for his membership stuff.
So if someone needs to change their email or like reset their password,
he has his robot do it. He has Claude do it.
And like Claude will use the browser,
go in the admin side of his website,
click around to members, change their settings,
and he has it on a monitor off to the side and he does like keep an eye
on it as it's working. But I I'm I'm not there yet,
but I'm very close.
I'm very close to letting it do that.
It was really funny when it when I had to do this it came back and I was like,
How many articles do you want me to do?
Your archive's huge. Do you want me to just run a test?
Or do you want me to do it all?
I mean, that's a lot. I'm like,
It's a lot of tokens.
dude, shut up. You're a robot.
Just do it. Like, I don't care.
But then it it did. It opened a browser tab in Brave and the this is
Yeah, yes.
the fit my favorite part. It goes,
Yes.
So I've I've run into a problem.
It seems like after a certain number of articles,
the new articles are not available to me because there's a paywall.
Hang on, let me just see if I can strip the exact JSON from the webpage.
And it did it.
Ha ha ha.
It just like pulled all the data directly from the JSON file instead.
It's like you know what, just kidding.
It's like it's like this seems to be a problem.
I I got it. Just kidding.
But if you want me to just hack your articles,
I'm happy to do that instead. And it just did it.
But it did. It opened it up and you could if I would have clicked over
to that tab in Brave. Like I didn't start this task in Brave.
I started in Cowork and it just opened a tab and just did its little thing.
Right, it it just opened it. Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's just amazing.
It is amazing. Still s tiny bit scary,
but mostly amazing and amazing enough.
Listen, but the benefits
of this also, whatever. Leak mine your train might train on it.
You're doing it anyway. It's public it's like all this stuff is published.
yeah. Yeah.
Like I don't whatever.
I do w do you wish that ~ Anthropic would make a browser itself?
No, because the the Claude extension is just so good.
I I so I ordered the other thing Claude saved the day.
The cloud extension is very good.
I ordered so we have a barista pro,
one of the Brevo things, and a rock went through the grinder and it didn't
it so it's so it still grinds.
Yeah.
That's not an uncommon thing when you're buying like beans.
They're there are things 'cause when they sift them out,
like you could have a rock that's roughly the same weight or the same size.
And anyway, and this has happened twice now,
but the f the second time it it will no longer eject
Grounds, it'll grind them if they just accumulate in the grinder.
Yeah, yeah.
So so I ordered the replacement parts from like one of those websites where
you can do that. And if they're back ordered and they just never shipped.
And so I opened my order status in Brave,
and they're also back ordered,
and I just opened the little Claud thing and I say,
Hey, here's the deal. This stuff is never shipped.
Could you just find it for me?
And if you find it, will you just tell me where?
Yeah, yeah.
So I can buy. I didn't tell it to buy it for me.
I don't know if it would have done that or not,
but I was like, Can you just find this for me?
And it just said, Here's where you can get this one,
it's in stock, it'll ship and be here by this day.
Here's where you can get this one,
you c it'll be in stock and you can ship it by this day.
Yeah.
And I just did it.
That's the thing. That's the and I had to buy something for my fridge,
like the ice tray or whatever,
like the ice maker. I say he I take a picture of the mo like the sticker inside with
the model. I say I need I need a replacement.
Some just find it just finds it.
Yep. Yep.
It finds it. Listen, we're we're in a it's a fun time.
Scary a little bit scary sometimes,
but it's a fun time. And we'll see what Apple does with all this next week.
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