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Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
What's going on?

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back.

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Today's episode is gonna be brought to you
by Mystery Ranch built for the mission.

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And if you haven't been rocking a
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career, well that sucks to be you dog.

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Yeah, your back probably hurts anyways.

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Mystery Ranch is obviously known
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the wild end fire game, the most
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Hands down.

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However, you still gotta
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I just recently saw some like stuff
from the pictures of the graveyard packs

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that have been coming back to, uh, the,
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And, uh, y'all need to take, start
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Just saying anyways.

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Mr.

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Ranch is actually known for their
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on the ground, and that's actually
how that pack that you're probably

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wearing is actually been designed
and developed and put into the field.

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Basically, they actually are, uh,
taking notes from folks like you in

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the field and feeding it up to the
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So without a little bit of feedback,
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So by all means reach out to 'em and say,
Hey, you ever thought about doing this?

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Or, Hey, have you ever thought
about making something for this?

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They actually take a
little input quite well.

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In fact, Dana went down to, uh, SoCal
and tied in with some shots down there,

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and that's actually another reason why
that, uh, hotshot pack is on your back

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and now is designed the way it is.

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Why do they do this?

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Well, because they give a shit.

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They give a shit so much that actually
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scholarships for those folks in the
field that are looking to up their game

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and actually try and, uh, expand their
horizons as far as education or stuff

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that's gonna benefit their fire career.

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How are they doing that?

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Well, they're doing that with the Mystery
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with the world and share it with Mystery
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and check it out because these, uh,
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Well, they have an expiry, an expiry
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that whole Ted Talk thing that we did
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So just wanna say thanks homie.

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And last but not least, the Anchor
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sponsored by, they're not brought to
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relationships I have with Bethany over
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And uh, yeah, I just want to show her
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What it is, is basically a digital
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telling the story of wildlife fire.

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There's.

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Quite literally.

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But there's, there has to be like over
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But it's preserving the legacy
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and the story of wildland fire.

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And some of these stories
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It's pretty freaking bitching.

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So if you want a little history
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the Smokey Generation grant program,
if you got a compelling story and

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you're telling the story of wildland
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video camera, or a still camera through
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There was this one dude out there
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spoons and it's freaking kick ass.

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And they're a smokey
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Yeah, sky's limit.

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Tell the story.

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It's freaking awesome.

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Anyways, if you wanna find out more, go
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and you can check it all out.

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Once again, www.wildfireexperience.org.

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Bethany, you have a kick
ass organization over there.

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Keep it up.

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The views and opinions of this podcast
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of the United States government,
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Department of Defense, the Department
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What's going on?

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome
back to another episode of

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the Anchor Point Podcast.

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So today we are going to be
continuing our little series.

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Uh, there's gonna be about four
more of these, uh, from the Bureau

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of Land Management State, uh,
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And uh, yeah, uh, I'm gonna be the first
to admit it, but I don't think I give

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enough, uh, love to the engine programs
that are out there in the, uh, fire world.

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So we're gonna have
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We're actually gonna be talking to
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Operations Tech, and I believe is the new
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It's kinda like a mini foz or foz.

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Anyways, long, long story short, we got a
bunch of folks that are gonna be talking

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all about the engine program unique to
the state of Nevada, including some of

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those heli operations that you don't
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So, without further ado, I'd like to
introduce four of my good friends and

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their names are going to be Austin Lee.

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Truett Anderson, Elliot
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They're scattered all around the,
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stations across the, uh, state.

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But they are here to inform
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And I am a little bit biased when I
say this, but it is pretty badass.

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I will say that.

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So ladies and gentlemen, buckle up.

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Welcome to another episode
of The Anchor Point.

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Great.

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Here we go.

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And it's too early in the
morning for this crap.

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So anyways, ladies and gentlemen,
welcome back to another episode

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of the Anchor Point Podcast.

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How's everybody doing this?

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Fine morning.

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Doing well.

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Yeah.

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Doing great.

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Nice, nice getting hydrated.

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Yeah, we, uh, had a very extreme
bowling tournament last night and

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that went off without a hitch.

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Truett Anderson: Yeah, it, uh,
probably was one of the best bowling

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turnouts we've had in the last.

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It was good.

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Since 2017, we've been
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Oh really?

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Every, yeah.

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Every two years.

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Biannual, whatever that word is.

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And then, uh, yeah, last night
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many people showed up to bowl
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Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Yeah, it was a good turnout.

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A lot of good, like, I like the way
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They're just like hanging
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It's cool to see that stuff outside
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Truett Anderson: yeah.

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And I think the big thing like that, I
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like we've had the, all these meetings,
like technically all these meetings can be

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done, you know, through the new Zoom way.

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But you finally got to go back and
like, oh, hey, let's have a drink.

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Let's bullshit.

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Let's have a good time.

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And then, oh, I haven't seen this guy.

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You moved up like, oh, who are you?

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And so, yeah, it's definitely changing.

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Like I think everybody needed this,
especially after Covid, you know, we

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see each other on fires or something.

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Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
was that like the extent of it though?

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Truett Anderson: And, and coming
in here you're like, cool.

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Like we're hanging out now,
like we're family again.

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Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
No, it's a good thing, man.

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It's uh, yeah, like on the line.

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I mean, it's kinda like a work thing,
but when he get to actually like mesh

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and connect, I think it's really good.

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It's good for like cohesion,
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good for all that stuff.

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Just being the human, you know?

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It's good shit.

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But anyways, we'll go
around the table here.

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Let's introduce ourselves as the BLM
engine, I guess committee, like you guys

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are, been hand chosen by, uh, the state
pretty much to be on the show today.

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Talk all about the Nevada engine program.

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So Austin started off man.

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Austin Lee: Uh, Austin Lee out
of Winnemucca District b l m.

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Um, gonna be 10th fire season
coming up in fifth year, running

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a truck as an engine captain.

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So, Happy to be here and yeah, I'm
looking forward to chatting with you guys.

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Truett Anderson: My turn,
so my name's TruD Anderson.

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Um, I'm the fire operations
tech for Southern Nevada.

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This will be my 15th season in Nevada.

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Um, but yeah, I ran trucks
for a very long time.

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We've even worked on, um, Elliot's
truck once, got yelled at afterwards.

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But yeah, I am super excited to be here.

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Make sure that my friend
Elliot has a good time.

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Thanks.

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Elliot Krinka: Um, my name's Elliot Cria.

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I am the fire operations
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Yeah, the old guy here.

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I guess I am on

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Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
18 years.

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Elliot Krinka: 18 years.

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18 fire seasons.

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Yeah.

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Nice.

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Yeah.

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Um, It's new to me, so this, this part.

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So it's gonna be exciting, I

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Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
guess.

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A little different.

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Yeah.

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Nice man.

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And you?

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Chris Weaver: Yeah.

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I'm Chris Weaver, uh, Carson
City District outta Cold Spring

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Station, uh, engine captain there.

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And yeah, going into my 16th season and
I think I might be the only one that's

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worked for BBL m outside of Nevada.

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Is that true?

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Yeah.

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Nice.

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Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Yeah, so nice.

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How's the running competition with Biddle?

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His knee's

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Chris Weaver: Bittle bummed up, so

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Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
I haven't really ran with him.

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That guy has a machine man.

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He's running machine.

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So you're saying you're, you're

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Chris Weaver: winning.

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I mean, I

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Austin Lee: guess, you know, but I'm not,

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Truett Anderson: you
gotta take that win now.

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That meme might get

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Chris Weaver: better.

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Yeah, that's true.

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Yeah.

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I'm, I don't consider myself much
of a runner to begin with, so.

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Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Well, you got the upper hand right now.

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I mean, you just go like, was that
professional like, uh, skater back

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in the Olympics, like took out
the other Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Forget her name.

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But

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Austin Lee: anyways,

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Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
so let's talk all about engines, man.

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So I was an engine guy for a while here.

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I started off my career, uh,
here in Carson City as well.

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Um, traveled to Stead.

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I was instead I was in Carson
City, I was in Doyle, California.

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Went and did my apprenticeship
thing, did some hotshot time,

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did some hell attack time.

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Came full circle back
to Elie where I met you.

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Yeah, we worked with you.

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And then, uh, I'd fill in on the engines.

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I was on the hell attack crew
out there, but I ended my career

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back here in Doyle, California.

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And, uh, Bronson was my captain.

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He's, uh, in HR now.

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That, that fool hot man.

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That crazy circle.

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Yeah, it's weird, man.

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Truett Anderson: It, it blows me away
when I see somebody get out of fire.

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I'm like, you do that, it's possible.

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Wait, you can do this.

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Where's this secret?

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Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
But it's weird, man.

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It's cuz I've had the most like,
like, I guess the best times in

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my career, probably in Nevada.

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I mean, I went to, I got the
opportunity when I was in EEA to go

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over and teach at the academy and
that was one of the times in my life.

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So luckily I was afforded that.

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But the engines here in Nevada, I, I
think that they're, they're like one

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of those resources that kind of win
the day, especially on initial attack.

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Cause we have a lot of capabilities
out there, mobile attack, and

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it's the perfect fuel type,
oftentimes the perfect typography.

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You know, you get out to the flats, you're
chasing fire for a hell of a long time.

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And then if you run into the
hill, you just start plumbing

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hose up the, up the hill.

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Or you can crew up and make a crew
out of like these engines that

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are all dispatched to this fire.

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Right.

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So let's talk about like the capabilities
and what you guys do, how you guys see

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it and what you guys see in the future
for the engine program here in Nevada.

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That's deep.

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Truett Anderson: It's super

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Austin Lee: new.

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Yeah.

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Um, I can go first, I'll take it a
little bit, but, uh, Elliot, similar

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district runs those super heavies, those
6 68 s you know, so that flat rolling

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fires along the, you know, grass and
sage, you know, it's, it's direct with

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those super heavies, um, where it's
gonna go in the future with those.

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I, I honestly am not sure they're up
for a contractor right, right now.

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So we'll see what the equipment
shop comes up with next for that

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specialized next piece of equipment.

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Um, did some time on a heavy when I first
started and been on a super heavy ever

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since those, uh, 6 68 s so, Yeah, there's
six wheel drive and cruising, you know,

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either in front of the dozer or behind it.

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Um, getting in the, you're into stuff.

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Yeah.

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So it's fun.

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Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
So 6 68 likes the super heavy,

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like, kinda explain what that is.

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Like that package, that engine package.

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Cuz not a lot of people are gonna
know the, like, the numbers of

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the bottles and stuff like that.

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So a lot of listeners aren't
going to be listening to that.

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They're not gonna understand that.

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So let's talk about like,
the capabilities of it.

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Yeah, for sure.

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Austin Lee: So some of the capabilities,
you got a six wheel drive, um, two models

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in Attc Tatra or a Firehawk ex on a ocos
chassis similar to what the military

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uses for like the fuel hauling and Yeah.

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Fuel haul is right.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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Or they're crash rescue
trucks for the military.

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But uh, what that looks like is 2060
gallons of water, 50 gallons of foam, um,

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single cab, three seats across the front.

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Air rise.

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It's a little comfy real quick.

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Real comfy.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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People say asses and elbows and it's true.

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Um, and you know, it.

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You got a wa a water monitor.

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Some people like to call it a turt.

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I like to call it a water monitor.

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Um, or just a monitor.

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But yeah, you fight for the
fire from inside the cab, um,

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you know, type three engine.

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So pumping capabilities there.

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Um, with that 2000 gallons of water,
it's, it's, uh, it's more of experience

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and strategy when it comes to how long
you can go to, to fight that fire.

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But, uh, they have their pros
and they have their cons just

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like everything else in life.

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So, um, yeah, no, they do, uh, they
do the good workout in Winnemucca

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and, and, and Elco as well, you
know, been, uh, been able to have the

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opportunity to fight fire in Elco and,
uh, Winnemucca with being on the 6 68.

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So they do pretty good work.

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Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Not only that, but they're pretty

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damn cool looking too, I gotta say.

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Those things are pretty beefy and
they, they just get some, they can haul

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ass across the desert and just pick
pretty much anything you throw at 'em.

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So, yeah, they do

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Austin Lee: good work.

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Um, but yeah, I, I'm excited to see what
the feature holds for those, for sure.

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Uh, especially cuz they're gonna
be up for rewrite soon and.

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Yeah, just see where it goes.

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Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
So I couldn't imagine what

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one of those tires cost, um,

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Austin Lee: from Les Schwab.

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You're roughly, did we say the quiet part

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Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
out loud here?

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It's four grand.

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Yeah, it's four grand.

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Oh, shit.

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Austin Lee: That's it.

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Yeah.

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Luckily we have the
connection through d o d.

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Yeah.

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So we're able to get those for,
uh, for a better price almost, you

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know, two for the price of one.

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So yeah, luckily we were able to
circumnavigate a little bit of, you know,

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getting those, those tires taken care
of through the Department of Defense.

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So

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Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
is it like surplus stuff that you're

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trying to get through, like, I don't know,
an Army Depot, like Herlong or something

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Austin Lee: like that?

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Yeah, I think it's
essentially similar to that.

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Um, I don't, our fire property and fleet
manager usually handles all that ordering.

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Um, but based off our, you know, annual
tire inspections that we do every year,

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those findings, we just place a bulk order
through the D o D and, uh, we're able to

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get 'em at, at pretty much their cost.

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Um, and those tires, I believe are.

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Uh, we're under an exemption where
they're gonna still continue to

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make them for fire and d o d.

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Mm-hmm.

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So we're pretty fortunate to at
least be under that exemption and

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still keep those trucks running.

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So

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Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
speaking of exemptions with those

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super heavies man, um, how does it work
with like the road worthiness thing?

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Like, that's gotta be kind of a
challenge, a unique challenge for

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like the Department of Transportation.

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Like you don't see these things
traveling down the road too often.

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Usually when you see 'em in a
military context, they're on a

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load boy, like going somewhere.

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They're Notre like cruising
along the road, so, right.

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Yeah, I

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Austin Lee: mean, uh, it's uh,
it's a long drive when you're

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in one for sure can imagine.

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It's very

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Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
quick.

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Yeah.

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I've never operated one,

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Austin Lee: so yeah, it's one of
those things, everybody passes you

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on the road, but once you get off
the road, you pass everybody else.

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So it's, it's kind of one of
those things, you know, they, they

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off they off-road so much better
than, than driving on the road.

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But, uh, you know, you get
there when you get there.

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Um, the primary goal
is getting there safe.

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You can't fight the
fire till you're there.

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So biggest thing is, you
know, we're gonna take as long

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time, as much time as we need.

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To get on scene safely
and, and get after it.

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So, oh yeah.

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Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Speaking of, uh, handling off-road

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capabilities, I, I've heard like rumors
about these things like being able to just

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haul ass through brush, through washes,
through rocks, through gnarly stuff.

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It's like practically a, I don't know,
a semi version of a trophy truck.

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Like what's the speed capabilities
of these things in like,

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the desert crush and brush?

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Yeah.

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I

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Austin Lee: mean, uh, if you're on
the tatra with the air ride suspension

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versus that, uh, that coil suspension,
the tatra, you, it just floats.

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Feels like you're on a
boat, on, on glass water.

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It floats really well.

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Um, especially if you've
got the air ride seat.

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Mm-hmm.

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I mean, you could probably go 40, 45, 50,
um, off road, you know, if, especially

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if you're on like a designated two
track, um, you know, you're cutting

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through vegetation or whatnot, you
know, you, you go a little slower just

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cuz you're not trying to break it.

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Yeah.

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But, uh, they, they do good work.

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Uh, drainages, all that fun stuff,
it's, it's one of those things you don't

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get, toss the keys and say go drive it.

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Um, it's definitely one of
those things that you learn the

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capabilities as you drive it.

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Um, but yeah, they, they, it does
awesome work once you really get

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comfortable with operating one.

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So

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Truett Anderson: it, it's pretty cool.

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Like I wrote an attachment with
Elliot, uh, which that was pretty wild.

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But like when you're in there, you're
like, okay, like we're cruising.

471
00:19:33,345 --> 00:19:34,215
This is all right.

472
00:19:34,575 --> 00:19:37,875
But when you're not inside that thing,
you're watching 'em mop through.

473
00:19:37,875 --> 00:19:39,495
You're like, what are they do?

474
00:19:39,555 --> 00:19:41,235
Because that thing is just rolling.

475
00:19:41,235 --> 00:19:44,415
But when you're in there actually
squirting water, you're like, okay,

476
00:19:44,415 --> 00:19:46,005
like this is actually pretty good.

477
00:19:46,010 --> 00:19:49,245
Like I don't feel all these
bumps, but I know that what it

478
00:19:49,245 --> 00:19:52,245
looks like on the outside, like
I don't wanna get back in there.

479
00:19:52,485 --> 00:19:53,595
Yeah, you gotta be careful

480
00:19:53,685 --> 00:19:55,455
Elliot Krinka: cuz you can take those
things where you don't want to go.

481
00:19:55,460 --> 00:19:55,575
Yeah.

482
00:19:55,675 --> 00:19:55,895
You

483
00:19:56,115 --> 00:19:56,775
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
can probably get yourself

484
00:19:56,775 --> 00:19:57,615
into a corner real quick.

485
00:19:57,615 --> 00:19:58,155
For sure.

486
00:19:58,215 --> 00:20:00,285
There's a reason rest meeting,
like the capabilities maybe.

487
00:20:00,375 --> 00:20:00,765
Yeah.

488
00:20:00,825 --> 00:20:01,755
There's a reason there's

489
00:20:01,845 --> 00:20:03,735
Elliot Krinka: a separate class
just for that truck mm-hmm.

490
00:20:03,815 --> 00:20:04,575
That you have to take.

491
00:20:04,605 --> 00:20:05,205
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
It's not like your

492
00:20:05,205 --> 00:20:06,285
standard engine academy.

493
00:20:06,285 --> 00:20:06,765
No.

494
00:20:06,855 --> 00:20:06,945
Yeah.

495
00:20:06,945 --> 00:20:10,425
Elliot Krinka: There's an extra 6 68
class that you have to take to drive that.

496
00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:11,130
Okay.

497
00:20:11,220 --> 00:20:14,670
So that's the reason, cuz you can
definitely get yourself into some

498
00:20:14,670 --> 00:20:15,630
trouble if you don't know what you're

499
00:20:15,630 --> 00:20:16,500
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
doing with those trucks.

500
00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:17,490
Yeah, I couldn't imagine that.

501
00:20:17,490 --> 00:20:19,230
It's very maneuverable in tight spaces.

502
00:20:19,235 --> 00:20:19,520
Mm-hmm.

503
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,360
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

504
00:20:21,365 --> 00:20:21,750
They're a,

505
00:20:22,120 --> 00:20:24,660
Elliot Krinka: they're a straight
up, straight down kind of truck.

506
00:20:24,930 --> 00:20:28,800
Um, it's real top heavy, so you just
gotta be, be careful where you're

507
00:20:28,830 --> 00:20:29,330
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
taking those things.

508
00:20:29,330 --> 00:20:29,690
Gotcha.

509
00:20:30,030 --> 00:20:32,190
So side hill's out the question.

510
00:20:32,190 --> 00:20:34,770
It's not like a unimog, it's not out
of the question, but you just gotta

511
00:20:34,770 --> 00:20:36,480
be, you know, it's just gonna be aware

512
00:20:36,485 --> 00:20:38,040
Elliot Krinka: of what you're doing.

513
00:20:38,310 --> 00:20:38,580
Gotcha.

514
00:20:38,580 --> 00:20:38,640
For

515
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:38,940
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
sure.

516
00:20:39,630 --> 00:20:39,840
Yeah.

517
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:40,290
Thanks man.

518
00:20:40,830 --> 00:20:42,750
So what about some other
machines that we have out there?

519
00:20:42,750 --> 00:20:45,360
I know we rely heavily on
type threes and four s.

520
00:20:45,390 --> 00:20:48,960
We got the special, uh, Tatras
and six 60 eights you said?

521
00:20:49,050 --> 00:20:50,040
Yeah, the, the

522
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,710
Austin Lee: Oshkosh is the kind
of the term that we run by, so.

523
00:20:52,710 --> 00:20:53,040
Okay.

524
00:20:53,220 --> 00:20:53,520
And that's

525
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:53,790
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
where

526
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,180
Elliot Krinka: everything's going to
is the Oshkosh Tatras out of there.

527
00:20:57,185 --> 00:20:57,250
Mm-hmm.

528
00:20:57,375 --> 00:20:58,620
And everything's going to the Kosh shop

529
00:20:58,680 --> 00:20:59,340
Truett Anderson: Oshkosh.

530
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,140
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
So is it just because of

531
00:21:01,140 --> 00:21:03,330
operational expense for the Tatras?

532
00:21:03,335 --> 00:21:06,180
I mean, I could imagine those things are
cheap to run, but neither is an Oshkosh.

533
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:06,540
Yeah.

534
00:21:06,540 --> 00:21:06,970
So we're

535
00:21:07,170 --> 00:21:07,381
Austin Lee: still running.

536
00:21:08,354 --> 00:21:13,784
Um, Tatra, it's, we still got one,
but, uh, it was used in the chuckles

537
00:21:13,784 --> 00:21:15,915
of Akia military as a missile carrier.

538
00:21:16,395 --> 00:21:17,625
So, yeah.

539
00:21:17,655 --> 00:21:18,014
Wait, what?

540
00:21:18,225 --> 00:21:20,905
Yeah, so they were, they used them
as a, a missile carrier mm-hmm.

541
00:21:20,985 --> 00:21:26,715
In the truck, uh, Republic, but
they, uh, they getting parts for

542
00:21:26,719 --> 00:21:28,635
that truck is very difficult.

543
00:21:28,665 --> 00:21:28,875
Yeah.

544
00:21:28,965 --> 00:21:33,284
Um, there's one specialist out
in, uh, Idaho where we can take it

545
00:21:33,284 --> 00:21:34,844
and he's, he's awesome with him.

546
00:21:35,354 --> 00:21:39,764
But, uh, you know, we, we had a biggest
thing is like, don't break a windshield.

547
00:21:39,764 --> 00:21:40,274
Whoa.

548
00:21:40,995 --> 00:21:44,625
Following, you know, a dozer
transport down the road doing what

549
00:21:44,629 --> 00:21:48,104
we do, you know, cruising down a,
a dirt road at fairly good speeds.

550
00:21:48,645 --> 00:21:50,594
One of the duals kicked up a
rock, broke the windshield.

551
00:21:50,774 --> 00:21:51,195
Darn.

552
00:21:51,764 --> 00:21:55,665
So I think the, uh, we ended up
ordering two windshields, you know,

553
00:21:55,695 --> 00:21:58,695
cuz you break one, you try to get two
just in case it never happens again.

554
00:21:58,695 --> 00:21:59,685
Especially with that truck.

555
00:21:59,685 --> 00:22:02,864
And I think it took eight
months to get the windshield.

556
00:22:03,780 --> 00:22:04,139
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Oh wow.

557
00:22:04,170 --> 00:22:06,480
Did it put your engine down for like d

558
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:06,540
o

559
00:22:06,540 --> 00:22:07,200
Austin Lee: t stuff or?

560
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,870
We were able to have a local windshield
company at least just kind of put

561
00:22:09,870 --> 00:22:13,110
a patch on it so we could keep
running and doing the good work.

562
00:22:13,110 --> 00:22:16,710
But uh, yeah, the parts are very
slim pickings when it comes to that

563
00:22:16,710 --> 00:22:20,550
specialized equipment and luckily the
Oshkosh is a little easier getting parts.

564
00:22:20,555 --> 00:22:20,660
Mm-hmm.

565
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,840
Um, but yeah, it's, it's, that's
kind of I think why they, the big

566
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,210
push was to phase those out and
come up with the next best thing.

567
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:28,139
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Nice.

568
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:28,650
Yeah.

569
00:22:29,250 --> 00:22:30,840
So what about the type three program?

570
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,820
Let's just work our way down to by type.

571
00:22:32,820 --> 00:22:35,100
So type threes, that's what
I got the most experience on.

572
00:22:35,100 --> 00:22:35,610
Type threes.

573
00:22:35,610 --> 00:22:38,820
And four is type threes the most
experience on, I was wondering an

574
00:22:38,825 --> 00:22:40,800
interface package with, uh, what was that?

575
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:47,400
Like a, I wanna say it was a BME interface
engine 500 gallons, you know, tons of

576
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,980
gallonage, but you gotta have a hyd
drink cuz you don't have shift of water.

577
00:22:50,250 --> 00:22:52,020
Truett Anderson: Yeah, no water.

578
00:22:52,139 --> 00:22:55,530
I, man, like, I, I hate
type threes so much.

579
00:22:55,530 --> 00:22:58,840
Like, yeah, the pump is
better, but like you got less.

580
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:00,990
Now, I mean, I can't remember.

581
00:23:00,990 --> 00:23:04,290
I haven't really paid attention,
but like, we're still carrying a

582
00:23:04,290 --> 00:23:07,110
lot of water, but we live in Nevada.

583
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,480
There's no water here except for the hyd.

584
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:10,080
Newsflash

585
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:10,950
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
it didn't say desert.

586
00:23:11,370 --> 00:23:15,120
Truett Anderson: And so that's why I, I'm,
I think it's great, especially we go other

587
00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:19,830
places when we help out, but man in the
state, like just gimme a four or type six.

588
00:23:19,835 --> 00:23:21,990
Like I'm really against the threes.

589
00:23:21,990 --> 00:23:22,740
But they're great.

590
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:27,120
I think now it's getting better cuz we're,
we've fought for so many years in that

591
00:23:27,210 --> 00:23:31,440
in the programs that like those trucks
were single cabs to extended cabs and

592
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,310
now it's like, hey, like a four door,
they're four door, they're a little

593
00:23:35,315 --> 00:23:36,871
ugly, but there's more room for the guys.

594
00:23:36,876 --> 00:23:39,420
And like people are starting to
realize like, we needed that.

595
00:23:39,420 --> 00:23:41,190
Like give us some

596
00:23:41,190 --> 00:23:41,730
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
space.

597
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,980
They do look a little bit like a
garbage truck now, I'm not gonna

598
00:23:43,980 --> 00:23:46,440
lie, but they serve as purpose.

599
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,720
Like you can almost, my short
ass could stand up in the

600
00:23:48,725 --> 00:23:49,560
back of one of these two one.

601
00:23:49,950 --> 00:23:51,090
Oh yeah, yeah.

602
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,850
But uh, the type threes man, I mean, yeah.

603
00:23:53,850 --> 00:23:58,530
Out in like a majority of Nevada
except for around like, Exclusively

604
00:23:58,530 --> 00:23:59,490
Washoe County pretty much.

605
00:23:59,490 --> 00:24:01,800
And maybe some of the outlying
areas like maybe Elko.

606
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,740
You have some interface out there,
of course around your towns.

607
00:24:05,070 --> 00:24:06,720
That's where like the
type threes really shine.

608
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,100
That's what they're built for interface.

609
00:24:08,100 --> 00:24:08,460
Right.

610
00:24:08,490 --> 00:24:10,440
While the intermittent interface, great.

611
00:24:10,890 --> 00:24:12,210
I was here, so yeah.

612
00:24:12,300 --> 00:24:13,980
Made the most sense to
have a type three out here.

613
00:24:13,985 --> 00:24:16,260
I mean, yeah, we do get, you
know, out into the weeds.

614
00:24:16,260 --> 00:24:16,261
Yeah.

615
00:24:16,266 --> 00:24:16,410
They

616
00:24:16,410 --> 00:24:17,310
Truett Anderson: have the purpose.

617
00:24:17,310 --> 00:24:19,170
Like here, they work great.

618
00:24:20,070 --> 00:24:22,470
I mean, other places like, yeah, yeah.

619
00:24:22,530 --> 00:24:24,300
You can't go off road very well.

620
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,260
They don't turn as good
as like a type six would.

621
00:24:28,260 --> 00:24:29,760
But like yeah.

622
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,210
I mean I just don't like the
type threes like, but I also, I

623
00:24:33,215 --> 00:24:35,129
have always had the older ones.

624
00:24:35,135 --> 00:24:35,350
Yeah.

625
00:24:35,530 --> 00:24:38,879
So like I'm just there
to retire the trucks.

626
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:39,210
All right.

627
00:24:39,900 --> 00:24:40,770
See you later bud.

628
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,000
And then go order and wait about
three years to get a new one there.

629
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:45,900
It is insane.

630
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:50,100
Elliot Krinka: Well, the nice thing is
now that you know our we're, when we

631
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,110
are able to replace these type four s.

632
00:24:52,830 --> 00:24:55,980
These older models, we can put
that type three pump in there.

633
00:24:56,130 --> 00:24:56,280
Yeah.

634
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,700
And still have the 7 50, 800 gallons
of water you just swap out engine.

635
00:25:00,250 --> 00:25:00,470
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
So

636
00:25:00,470 --> 00:25:03,030
Elliot Krinka: it's basically
they're type threes, but you know,

637
00:25:03,030 --> 00:25:04,380
we're calling 'em type fours.

638
00:25:04,380 --> 00:25:07,410
So we have the pump
capabilities of type three.

639
00:25:07,860 --> 00:25:12,450
And I mean, we could call 'em type
threes because, because of that pump.

640
00:25:12,450 --> 00:25:12,720
Yeah.

641
00:25:12,750 --> 00:25:17,070
But, but yeah, we're leaving the
labels where they are with the type

642
00:25:17,070 --> 00:25:18,960
four s, but the capabilities there.

643
00:25:19,050 --> 00:25:19,110
Yeah.

644
00:25:19,110 --> 00:25:21,330
So that's nice that we
are able to do that.

645
00:25:21,510 --> 00:25:22,620
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Should we just start calling 'em the three

646
00:25:22,620 --> 00:25:25,500
and a halfs type three and a half engines?

647
00:25:25,500 --> 00:25:25,740
Yeah.

648
00:25:26,090 --> 00:25:26,380
Austin Lee: Yeah.

649
00:25:26,700 --> 00:25:28,920
Chris Weaver: So I was gonna say like
all of the new ones we're getting

650
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,490
are the exact same and we're just
labeling 'em as type threes, you

651
00:25:32,490 --> 00:25:33,660
know, you're switching the labels.

652
00:25:33,990 --> 00:25:37,560
No, I mean, you guys like the, you know,
the ones you guys got elk over the last

653
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:38,911
couple of years are the same ones Yeah.

654
00:25:38,930 --> 00:25:39,860
That they got over

655
00:25:40,120 --> 00:25:40,540
Elliot Krinka: Carson.

656
00:25:40,540 --> 00:25:41,740
They're not six 60 fives, right?

657
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:42,020
No,

658
00:25:42,170 --> 00:25:42,740
Chris Weaver: just silver.

659
00:25:43,010 --> 00:25:43,300
Yeah.

660
00:25:43,305 --> 00:25:43,410
Yeah.

661
00:25:43,860 --> 00:25:45,510
Um, and they're just, yeah.

662
00:25:45,570 --> 00:25:47,520
I mean, it, it, and unless
I'm missing something.

663
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,430
Yeah, they're the same capabilities
and gallonage and everything, but.

664
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,850
Yeah, I mean, I actually run the truck
that you were on two fourth outed.

665
00:25:53,850 --> 00:25:54,120
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Yeah.

666
00:25:54,210 --> 00:25:55,230
Took care of my baby man.

667
00:25:55,380 --> 00:25:55,920
Don't break her.

668
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,330
She's been down for nine months.

669
00:25:57,780 --> 00:25:58,800
What did you do to my girl?

670
00:25:58,800 --> 00:25:59,580
Chris Weaver: Man, you left.

671
00:25:59,910 --> 00:26:00,410
You knew, huh?

672
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:01,770
Dude, I don't know what happened, man.

673
00:26:01,775 --> 00:26:06,510
We drove back from Colorado Check
engine light came on in Utah in June,

674
00:26:06,510 --> 00:26:13,740
and uh, then the, the engine blue on
July 4th, sat side of the, uh, side of

675
00:26:13,740 --> 00:26:18,150
the shop for nine months got it back
and the auxiliary power panel went out.

676
00:26:18,150 --> 00:26:20,790
So it's just been one thing
after another on that truck.

677
00:26:20,790 --> 00:26:21,180
But we

678
00:26:21,180 --> 00:26:22,950
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
will say with that old engine, uh,

679
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,730
the things that I noticed was it's got
like electrical ghosts, I swear to God.

680
00:26:26,730 --> 00:26:30,060
It's like you're chasing fucking
wiring harnesses all they've manifested

681
00:26:30,060 --> 00:26:30,780
Chris Weaver: into everything.

682
00:26:30,780 --> 00:26:33,970
Cause it's not just electrical
anymore, that thing's Yeah, yeah.

683
00:26:34,230 --> 00:26:34,920
Thoses

684
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:35,640
Truett Anderson: are mean, man.

685
00:26:35,790 --> 00:26:37,140
They just take away those trucks.

686
00:26:37,140 --> 00:26:37,470
Well,

687
00:26:37,470 --> 00:26:41,160
Chris Weaver: and it sat for two years
without, you know, consistent, uh, use.

688
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,960
So I think they had time
to just fuck around.

689
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,435
So, You know, get
everything all messed up but

690
00:26:46,575 --> 00:26:47,385
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
got really get in there.

691
00:26:47,415 --> 00:26:47,805
Yeah.

692
00:26:47,895 --> 00:26:49,845
So pack rats got into
there and started chewing

693
00:26:49,845 --> 00:26:50,265
Chris Weaver: up stuff.

694
00:26:50,475 --> 00:26:53,805
But I mean, it's interesting cuz like
from the interface, like that was

695
00:26:53,805 --> 00:26:55,235
my first time on a truck like that.

696
00:26:55,235 --> 00:26:55,555
Mm-hmm.

697
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,745
You know, I've ran, um, you know, kind
of the traditional Nevada type threes

698
00:26:59,745 --> 00:27:04,485
and fours, um, otherwise, and so,
um, my assistant and I, like, we tore

699
00:27:04,485 --> 00:27:07,635
everything outta that truck that was
interface and made it a desert truck.

700
00:27:07,755 --> 00:27:07,965
Yeah.

701
00:27:07,995 --> 00:27:10,905
Because I'm like, I fight fire
in Nevada, you know, I don't

702
00:27:10,905 --> 00:27:13,485
need to carry a snap tank.

703
00:27:13,490 --> 00:27:15,555
I don't need to carry three miles a hose.

704
00:27:15,555 --> 00:27:15,855
Yeah.

705
00:27:15,915 --> 00:27:19,095
Like I got hose packs, like, you know,
I'm gonna respect the terrain that

706
00:27:19,100 --> 00:27:22,215
we're in and the way that they fight
fire in Carson versus maybe Elco.

707
00:27:22,220 --> 00:27:27,435
But you know, like I wanna be prepared
to fight fire in Nevada not to, you

708
00:27:27,435 --> 00:27:31,215
know, um, Have all this stuff cuz
you know, I'm trying to fit what

709
00:27:31,215 --> 00:27:32,835
the, the mold of the truck was.

710
00:27:32,835 --> 00:27:33,675
So, yeah.

711
00:27:33,975 --> 00:27:36,555
Um, so hopefully once it's back
up and running, we'll actually

712
00:27:36,555 --> 00:27:38,835
get to try that out and see, see

713
00:27:38,835 --> 00:27:40,065
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
if it, you know, works, works.

714
00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:44,055
So, yeah, so there was a lot of outside
pressure when I outfitted that thing

715
00:27:44,115 --> 00:27:48,975
and uh, Bronz and I were in charge of
that, that engine we outfitted it to

716
00:27:48,975 --> 00:27:50,895
where we could easily go to California.

717
00:27:50,895 --> 00:27:53,295
Cause we often, like previously,
I don't know if it's changed a

718
00:27:53,295 --> 00:27:56,655
lot, but we'd be finding ourselves
in California all the time.

719
00:27:56,745 --> 00:28:00,255
So whether that's either, you know,
herlong or something close with where

720
00:28:00,255 --> 00:28:02,595
we're at in Doyle or going over here.

721
00:28:02,685 --> 00:28:05,625
So we had to have like the way I was
kind of looking at outfitting, that

722
00:28:05,625 --> 00:28:10,065
thing was a little bit of versatility
to be able to go to California, set up

723
00:28:10,065 --> 00:28:11,715
a tank, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

724
00:28:12,255 --> 00:28:17,535
But there was, I will say some, some
bullshit on that, that I had to put on

725
00:28:17,535 --> 00:28:21,105
there and I just kept, it's like, I don't
know where I'm gonna store this, so I

726
00:28:21,105 --> 00:28:22,545
might as well just keep it on there.

727
00:28:22,545 --> 00:28:24,856
And there were some also outside
pressures about outfitting that thing.

728
00:28:25,145 --> 00:28:27,015
Did it need three miles of hose?

729
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,540
No, like the amount of hose that
was on there, probably when you

730
00:28:30,540 --> 00:28:32,220
took over it was a lot, right?

731
00:28:32,490 --> 00:28:32,850
Yeah.

732
00:28:32,909 --> 00:28:35,669
But I mean like 16 hose packs on there
or some crazy shit and we still have

733
00:28:35,669 --> 00:28:36,810
Chris Weaver: all the
hose packs and everything.

734
00:28:36,810 --> 00:28:36,870
Yeah.

735
00:28:36,875 --> 00:28:42,450
I mean we just, yeah, we, we tried to
just make it where, you know, it's not

736
00:28:42,540 --> 00:28:47,639
just inter interface truck, like we
can interface, but then like, I don't

737
00:28:47,645 --> 00:28:52,020
know, I, and last year was crazy slow
on the Carson City district, you know,

738
00:28:52,020 --> 00:28:53,429
so like I They're slow statewide.

739
00:28:53,580 --> 00:28:53,909
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Yeah.

740
00:28:53,909 --> 00:28:54,200
Yeah.

741
00:28:54,510 --> 00:28:54,840
It was like

742
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:55,800
Chris Weaver: nationwide really.

743
00:28:56,370 --> 00:28:58,740
I mean we burned 83 acres on district.

744
00:28:58,919 --> 00:28:59,399
That's it last year.

745
00:28:59,399 --> 00:28:59,700
Yeah.

746
00:28:59,790 --> 00:29:01,590
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Eight three, not 830.

747
00:29:01,595 --> 00:29:01,919
Nope.

748
00:29:01,950 --> 00:29:02,490
Truett Anderson: Eight three.

749
00:29:02,550 --> 00:29:02,879
Yeah.

750
00:29:02,885 --> 00:29:07,679
Vegas had more acres burned
than like would've winnemucca

751
00:29:07,889 --> 00:29:09,690
two years ago and then you guys

752
00:29:09,690 --> 00:29:10,169
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
last year.

753
00:29:10,169 --> 00:29:10,620
So yeah.

754
00:29:10,710 --> 00:29:13,830
I find that really, really hard to
believe cuz Vegas hardly ever burns.

755
00:29:13,919 --> 00:29:15,540
Truett Anderson: Yeah, I know.

756
00:29:16,980 --> 00:29:19,200
Yeah, it was, it's crazy
how slow it was up here.

757
00:29:19,639 --> 00:29:19,929
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Yeah.

758
00:29:20,940 --> 00:29:21,270
Yeah.

759
00:29:21,389 --> 00:29:22,830
Talk about going stir crazy, man.

760
00:29:23,100 --> 00:29:23,389
Yeah.

761
00:29:24,555 --> 00:29:25,095
But yeah man.

762
00:29:25,125 --> 00:29:26,325
So outfitting these engines.

763
00:29:26,330 --> 00:29:28,125
Let's talk, let's skip
back to the other type.

764
00:29:28,125 --> 00:29:29,715
Let's, uh, let's talk
about the type six s.

765
00:29:29,715 --> 00:29:32,595
You don't see too many of those in
Nevada, but they do serve a good

766
00:29:32,595 --> 00:29:37,575
utility, especially with getting into
like back in some steep shitty canyon.

767
00:29:37,575 --> 00:29:39,525
You can get close and
then start hiking, right?

768
00:29:39,585 --> 00:29:39,975
Yeah.

769
00:29:40,095 --> 00:29:42,405
Truett Anderson: And so, like I
know the most, I probably hear

770
00:29:43,195 --> 00:29:47,505
about type six s cuz you guys have
all been on the I 80 mafia area.

771
00:29:48,495 --> 00:29:49,815
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
I 80 hot laps all summer probably.

772
00:29:49,815 --> 00:29:49,875
Yeah.

773
00:29:50,025 --> 00:29:52,845
Truett Anderson: But, uh, so
like those type six s like eley

774
00:29:52,845 --> 00:29:54,615
district, they have a bunch.

775
00:29:54,675 --> 00:29:54,765
Mm-hmm.

776
00:29:55,005 --> 00:29:57,405
And then Southern Nevada,
we've got two right now.

777
00:29:57,945 --> 00:29:59,415
And those things are amazing.

778
00:29:59,445 --> 00:30:00,015
They're quick.

779
00:30:00,015 --> 00:30:03,915
You can get, it's driving a, your truck
off road isn't an F what, five 50?

780
00:30:04,125 --> 00:30:05,595
Yeah, it's an F five 50.

781
00:30:05,655 --> 00:30:10,065
You got 300 gallons of water, it's
like 2 75 or something like that.

782
00:30:10,065 --> 00:30:12,705
But you don't have enough
water to do anything.

783
00:30:13,185 --> 00:30:15,825
But if you actually know how to use
that equipment, like you can hang and

784
00:30:15,825 --> 00:30:17,475
go with those heavies for a while.

785
00:30:17,625 --> 00:30:17,835
Oh yeah.

786
00:30:17,895 --> 00:30:22,215
And like that's the one cool thing, like
you can do really good hot, hot, you know.

787
00:30:22,919 --> 00:30:23,340
Here we go.

788
00:30:23,340 --> 00:30:26,280
Let's go have some fun,
but then hey, get back.

789
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,120
But we're faster.

790
00:30:27,510 --> 00:30:29,970
Like we can go get a
water source way quicker.

791
00:30:30,060 --> 00:30:30,419
Oh yeah.

792
00:30:30,540 --> 00:30:33,720
And so that's the coolest thing
that I love about these Type

793
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,189
six is like they're quick.

794
00:30:35,850 --> 00:30:39,419
Personally, I think we should just get a
word of everything above the type sixes.

795
00:30:40,379 --> 00:30:41,010
We just, we'll pump

796
00:30:41,010 --> 00:30:41,550
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
the brakes, man.

797
00:30:41,790 --> 00:30:42,480
Every condition.

798
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:42,629
My

799
00:30:42,629 --> 00:30:44,460
Truett Anderson: 2 22 or two four rather.

800
00:30:44,460 --> 00:30:45,659
Elliot just heard this as well.

801
00:30:45,750 --> 00:30:50,490
Um, there's been, you know, like trying
to get the CDLs and all that, like there's

802
00:30:50,490 --> 00:30:52,290
a new change for that in the state.

803
00:30:52,590 --> 00:30:55,409
So like, okay, let's just
get rid of, hes altogether.

804
00:30:55,409 --> 00:30:58,139
Just give everyone type six s and
we don't gotta worry about the

805
00:30:58,139 --> 00:30:59,669
CDL requirements and all that.

806
00:30:59,669 --> 00:31:03,689
Like it'll, it'll cure,
you know, it won't help us.

807
00:31:03,689 --> 00:31:04,919
Then you're gonna have to order

808
00:31:04,925 --> 00:31:06,480
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
2020 water tenders.

809
00:31:06,540 --> 00:31:06,600
Yeah.

810
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:07,409
This is blasting me.

811
00:31:07,409 --> 00:31:07,800
Get out.

812
00:31:09,540 --> 00:31:11,070
Austin Lee: I'll let you
take that up with my bosses.

813
00:31:11,070 --> 00:31:11,909
About, just go and take

814
00:31:11,909 --> 00:31:12,360
Chris Weaver: six, seven.

815
00:31:12,419 --> 00:31:14,250
Didn't realize this was
such a passion to yours.

816
00:31:14,909 --> 00:31:15,360
I didn't know

817
00:31:16,110 --> 00:31:16,860
Truett Anderson: Deep secrets.

818
00:31:16,860 --> 00:31:18,730
Yeah, I, I mean I like all the trucks.

819
00:31:18,889 --> 00:31:21,450
I don't mind, but I think
the type six s are great.

820
00:31:21,450 --> 00:31:22,050
I think they're.

821
00:31:22,630 --> 00:31:25,665
They can be used really well,
especially in this date.

822
00:31:25,665 --> 00:31:29,475
Like oh yeah, we we're a lot
faster on those types sixes.

823
00:31:29,595 --> 00:31:29,835
So

824
00:31:30,315 --> 00:31:31,365
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
yeah, I love 'em.

825
00:31:31,665 --> 00:31:32,565
They definitely have their purpose.

826
00:31:32,565 --> 00:31:36,555
I, I mean up in the Pacific Northwest of
type six is like where it's at, right?

827
00:31:36,555 --> 00:31:36,615
Yeah.

828
00:31:36,795 --> 00:31:40,695
That's like how you get to places
cuz you're not putting ship piles

829
00:31:40,695 --> 00:31:43,095
of hose unless it's got campo
campaign fire or something like that.

830
00:31:43,095 --> 00:31:43,155
Yeah.

831
00:31:43,155 --> 00:31:44,055
You need the water, right?

832
00:31:44,325 --> 00:31:44,445
Yeah.

833
00:31:44,445 --> 00:31:47,055
There's big timber and all that
stuff, but chances are you're going in

834
00:31:47,055 --> 00:31:51,045
there cutting line and you don't have
enough water in the world to put out

835
00:31:51,045 --> 00:31:52,335
some of these duff layers, you know?

836
00:31:52,335 --> 00:31:54,585
It's, you're just pissing
in the wind at that point.

837
00:31:54,675 --> 00:31:54,795
Yeah.

838
00:31:54,795 --> 00:31:59,295
So you wrap it up, you fall all your
hazards, you clean it up the best you can,

839
00:31:59,295 --> 00:32:02,925
you just dry mop it and then let all the
other shit burn down in Pacific Northwest.

840
00:32:02,925 --> 00:32:06,705
But type six rules the day up there
as well and definitely has a utility.

841
00:32:07,485 --> 00:32:10,815
So when you're outfitting all of these
things, like a lot of people don't

842
00:32:10,820 --> 00:32:14,055
know what goes into that, all these
engines, all this equipment, right?

843
00:32:14,055 --> 00:32:17,235
So let's bring up the equipment shop
and how that whole thing goes down.

844
00:32:17,235 --> 00:32:22,875
Like how they set the standards, what
is, how they like, Assign compliments

845
00:32:22,875 --> 00:32:24,465
of like, gear, all that stuff.

846
00:32:26,955 --> 00:32:28,845
Truett Anderson: I really would
like to know how they come up with,

847
00:32:30,615 --> 00:32:31,815
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
you know, did you guys know anything?

848
00:32:31,820 --> 00:32:33,225
I mean, I, it's not like Jade's here.

849
00:32:33,225 --> 00:32:34,395
Is he still in the equipment shop?

850
00:32:34,399 --> 00:32:34,514
Yeah.

851
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:35,294
Yeah, he's there.

852
00:32:35,294 --> 00:32:35,534
Yeah.

853
00:32:35,534 --> 00:32:36,435
Shout out to Jade man.

854
00:32:36,524 --> 00:32:37,335
Yeah, absolutely,

855
00:32:38,415 --> 00:32:38,635
Truett Anderson: man.

856
00:32:40,335 --> 00:32:42,735
Austin Lee: I know there's a
certain dollar amount you're

857
00:32:42,735 --> 00:32:45,855
given from the equipment shop to
outfit it to your district needs.

858
00:32:45,945 --> 00:32:46,845
Yeah, from my understanding.

859
00:32:46,845 --> 00:32:46,995
Yeah.

860
00:32:46,995 --> 00:32:49,935
You know, I, I just, we're just
actually our type six is driving

861
00:32:49,935 --> 00:32:51,105
back right now from Texas.

862
00:32:51,110 --> 00:32:52,004
We just got a brand new one.

863
00:32:52,155 --> 00:32:52,544
Nice.

864
00:32:52,575 --> 00:32:58,544
Um, I put it together kind of a wishlist,
you know, of what we think would suit the

865
00:32:58,544 --> 00:33:00,075
needs of our district and our operations.

866
00:33:00,555 --> 00:33:04,784
Um, you know, within Winnemucca, um,
you know, you just kind of run with

867
00:33:04,784 --> 00:33:07,544
that and, you know, get the blessing
from everybody else, making sure

868
00:33:07,544 --> 00:33:11,085
everybody else is on the same page and,
you know, oh, did you think of this?

869
00:33:11,085 --> 00:33:13,605
No, but I'll add it, you know,
and you just kind of work

870
00:33:13,605 --> 00:33:15,315
together and, and figure that out.

871
00:33:15,345 --> 00:33:19,004
Um, and the aspects of like, You
know, when, what the equipment shop

872
00:33:19,004 --> 00:33:21,195
decided, I couldn't really tell you.

873
00:33:21,375 --> 00:33:28,185
You know, based off, you know, I mean a
normal unit stock of surplus items, I,

874
00:33:28,335 --> 00:33:31,125
I really couldn't tell you what their,
how their deciding factor goes into that.

875
00:33:31,275 --> 00:33:31,665
Yeah.

876
00:33:32,115 --> 00:33:32,865
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Well, it seems like there's like a

877
00:33:32,870 --> 00:33:36,105
national standard for what they're
requiring for like engine typing.

878
00:33:36,105 --> 00:33:36,106
Right.

879
00:33:36,375 --> 00:33:41,625
As far as like the, the nuts and bolts,
the pump package, the lights, all that

880
00:33:41,625 --> 00:33:45,525
shit that goes on the vehicle, but, and
they also set the standard for the n u s.

881
00:33:45,525 --> 00:33:45,795
Right.

882
00:33:45,825 --> 00:33:47,115
Normal unit stocking, of course.

883
00:33:47,115 --> 00:33:47,175
Yeah.

884
00:33:47,669 --> 00:33:49,230
That's like a baseline minimum.

885
00:33:49,740 --> 00:33:50,100
Elliot Krinka: Yeah.

886
00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:51,330
And it, it is definitely a

887
00:33:51,335 --> 00:33:51,780
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
minimum.

888
00:33:51,990 --> 00:33:52,290
Yeah.

889
00:33:52,294 --> 00:33:52,350
Yeah.

890
00:33:52,679 --> 00:33:53,520
Always bare bones, man.

891
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:53,760
Yeah.

892
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:54,389
Yeah.

893
00:33:54,389 --> 00:33:54,510
If

894
00:33:54,510 --> 00:33:57,840
Elliot Krinka: you've ever tooken
your truck down to the bare bones,

895
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,230
what n u s minimum is, it feels
like you don't have anything

896
00:34:01,230 --> 00:34:01,710
Truett Anderson: on that truck.

897
00:34:01,715 --> 00:34:02,550
It's, it's really nice.

898
00:34:03,870 --> 00:34:06,070
Like, look at all this room,
like, oh, I can put a bag here

899
00:34:06,629 --> 00:34:07,290
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
and then, you know, the

900
00:34:07,290 --> 00:34:08,460
coffee kit actually fits here.

901
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,770
Austin Lee: You're in a super heavy
and you gotta make weight, won't,

902
00:34:10,889 --> 00:34:12,120
let's go down to bare minimum.

903
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,949
And us then, you know, let's, instead of
having 10 foresters, let's just go down to

904
00:34:16,955 --> 00:34:17,549
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
the three.

905
00:34:18,270 --> 00:34:19,110
That's all you need, really.

906
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:21,600
I hate Forester nozzles, but,
uh, they definitely score their

907
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,340
purpose on a type six for sure.

908
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:23,670
Yep.

909
00:34:24,630 --> 00:34:25,290
Yes, yes.

910
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,340
Truett Anderson: Running and gunning for
miles, but I, I'm putting hella fire, bro.

911
00:34:29,370 --> 00:34:32,370
It's funny, is like, I like to go look
at what people put on their trucks.

912
00:34:32,375 --> 00:34:32,429
Yeah.

913
00:34:32,429 --> 00:34:35,040
Like, there's some good ideas
that people have always, like, I'm

914
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,630
like, Ooh, I, I can steal that.

915
00:34:36,690 --> 00:34:40,889
But the biggest thing is I go in and
I hate when there's like, there's

916
00:34:41,340 --> 00:34:42,750
three miles of hose on a truck.

917
00:34:42,755 --> 00:34:42,810
Mm-hmm.

918
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,195
I don't have enough water to push that and
I really don't like, what are you doing?

919
00:34:48,195 --> 00:34:49,605
Like order more?

920
00:34:49,610 --> 00:34:49,835
Yeah.

921
00:34:50,085 --> 00:34:55,785
Like dig, like we, I mean, yeah, we drive
equipment there, but like the philosophy

922
00:34:55,785 --> 00:35:01,095
for me, I, it's skipped me from A to
B and then back to a and in between.

923
00:35:01,100 --> 00:35:06,495
Like we're gonna have fun, I gotta get out
and use my Lambert feed like I'm gonna do.

924
00:35:06,500 --> 00:35:06,765
Yeah.

925
00:35:06,765 --> 00:35:08,805
Like I don't constantly need that.

926
00:35:08,985 --> 00:35:11,775
The hose or like, I hate hose packed man.

927
00:35:11,775 --> 00:35:14,985
Like, I think every year, like it's
that time of year for us, you would

928
00:35:14,985 --> 00:35:18,465
get ready for fire season and you
gotta go out and you gotta do, oh,

929
00:35:18,465 --> 00:35:19,725
let's go do the hose lay drills.

930
00:35:19,755 --> 00:35:22,755
And like we're trying to come up with
ways to make it funner for the dudes.

931
00:35:22,755 --> 00:35:24,165
Like get engaged,

932
00:35:24,525 --> 00:35:25,725
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
not doing the same shit over and

933
00:35:25,725 --> 00:35:26,565
Truett Anderson: over and over again.

934
00:35:26,565 --> 00:35:26,566
Yeah.

935
00:35:26,625 --> 00:35:26,745
Yeah.

936
00:35:26,745 --> 00:35:31,305
But dude, you still gotta throw
the hose layout and it sucks.

937
00:35:31,305 --> 00:35:33,435
You're like, it's awkward.

938
00:35:33,435 --> 00:35:34,425
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
You got your pack on.

939
00:35:34,485 --> 00:35:34,755
Yeah.

940
00:35:34,875 --> 00:35:35,805
It's miserable.

941
00:35:35,865 --> 00:35:38,655
And you got muscle hamster over there
carrying like three hose packs and it's

942
00:35:38,655 --> 00:35:39,895
packing a fucking saw for some reason.

943
00:35:40,335 --> 00:35:41,535
It's like, what is

944
00:35:41,535 --> 00:35:42,135
Austin Lee: going on here?

945
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,700
I mean, all that's just like
learning points too, really.

946
00:35:45,149 --> 00:35:45,450
You know?

947
00:35:45,450 --> 00:35:47,430
Like, let's get outta the truck,
let's stretch the legs and

948
00:35:47,430 --> 00:35:50,279
let's, let's, let's learn, let's
teach teaching moment, you know?

949
00:35:50,430 --> 00:35:50,790
Oh, yeah.

950
00:35:50,859 --> 00:35:55,290
So I mean, that's my perspective is
I might have a monitor on my truck,

951
00:35:55,294 --> 00:35:57,270
but do I need to use it every time?

952
00:35:58,020 --> 00:35:58,500
No.

953
00:35:58,500 --> 00:36:02,580
You know, really, I don't, you know,
depending on fuel type and, and how green

954
00:36:02,580 --> 00:36:07,259
or you know, how vetted my seasonals are,
and then let's get on the floor and show

955
00:36:07,259 --> 00:36:11,790
some stuff about mobile attack, you know,
true, true tactics of the old school way.

956
00:36:11,790 --> 00:36:13,080
Like, let's get to work that way.

957
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:13,680
So yeah,

958
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:14,729
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

959
00:36:14,729 --> 00:36:14,879
Right?

960
00:36:14,884 --> 00:36:14,939
Yeah.

961
00:36:14,939 --> 00:36:17,910
Some of these tactics have been developed
back in the day and they still were today.

962
00:36:17,910 --> 00:36:19,040
Will they work for a
fucking reason, right?

963
00:36:19,379 --> 00:36:19,620
Yeah.

964
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:20,000
Oh, absolutely.

965
00:36:20,669 --> 00:36:20,959
Yeah.

966
00:36:21,209 --> 00:36:25,080
I mean, the monitor thing, I mean, we
had, I 24 has a monitor too, and it's,

967
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,279
I've maybe used it like operationally
twice, and it's just to get like some

968
00:36:29,279 --> 00:36:35,220
rat nest up in a tree that happens to
be on fire, just like, all right, later.

969
00:36:35,470 --> 00:36:35,759
Cool.

970
00:36:35,765 --> 00:36:36,000
Yeah,

971
00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:38,319
Chris Weaver: I've never had a
monitor until now and I don't really

972
00:36:38,319 --> 00:36:40,259
know how I feel about it, just cuz.

973
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,270
I mean, yeah, maybe it said old school,
just like feet on the ground, like, you

974
00:36:45,270 --> 00:36:51,690
know, and, and so just that the idea of
like the job of fighting fire from the

975
00:36:51,690 --> 00:36:53,940
cab truck, just, you know, I don't know.

976
00:36:54,060 --> 00:36:54,840
It's weird to me.

977
00:36:54,900 --> 00:36:55,380
Oh yeah,

978
00:36:55,620 --> 00:36:55,800
Austin Lee: I

979
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:56,009
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
know.

980
00:36:56,009 --> 00:36:56,520
Yeah.

981
00:36:56,610 --> 00:36:59,100
That's where the engine slug
terminology comes in, in my opinion.

982
00:36:59,100 --> 00:36:59,279
Austin Lee: Totally.

983
00:36:59,490 --> 00:36:59,779
Yeah.

984
00:36:59,850 --> 00:37:00,140
Yeah.

985
00:37:00,140 --> 00:37:00,700
No, it,

986
00:37:00,930 --> 00:37:01,220
Chris Weaver: yeah.

987
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,950
I mean, if I need to, yeah, if I need
to, like, you know, if I'm coming up and

988
00:37:04,950 --> 00:37:09,810
it's not the, the heel and I need to set
up a spot to get the truck in and hammer

989
00:37:09,810 --> 00:37:14,880
down some water, but like, I want to
get, you know, get folks out and pushing

990
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,980
hose as fast as I can, rather than just
roll slow roll and be like, ah, you

991
00:37:18,980 --> 00:37:22,110
know, might hold, we're just gonna put
as much water out and wasted as we can.

992
00:37:22,110 --> 00:37:22,170
Yeah.

993
00:37:22,259 --> 00:37:25,650
Because that's a big point of pride
for me as a captains, like watching

994
00:37:25,650 --> 00:37:28,560
trucks peel off to go fill up, and
we're just like, let's just keep going.

995
00:37:29,070 --> 00:37:33,270
Just like, you know, good water and
like, you know, being able to, yeah.

996
00:37:33,270 --> 00:37:34,320
Put in all that line.

997
00:37:34,694 --> 00:37:35,535
When you're go on mobile.

998
00:37:35,535 --> 00:37:35,834
So,

999
00:37:36,435 --> 00:37:37,785
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
and that's side, I probably wanna, I wanna

1000
00:37:37,785 --> 00:37:40,845
say that mobile attack is probably some
of the funnest shit you can ever do, man.

1001
00:37:40,850 --> 00:37:41,104
Oh, alright.

1002
00:37:41,104 --> 00:37:42,645
There's like nothing like a good

1003
00:37:42,645 --> 00:37:43,064
Truett Anderson: mobile.

1004
00:37:43,424 --> 00:37:43,944
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1005
00:37:44,115 --> 00:37:48,865
And people don't understand like how
like, good, like there's, alright,

1006
00:37:49,035 --> 00:37:51,794
we're doing mobile, it's not great, but
like, when you're especially on this

1007
00:37:51,794 --> 00:37:56,024
sage and it's just rip and you're like,
oh man, like I gotta start running.

1008
00:37:56,384 --> 00:37:57,765
Like, it's so much fun.

1009
00:37:57,765 --> 00:38:00,674
And at the end of the day, like, yeah,
you just got your ass kicked, but

1010
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:01,814
then you're like, dude, look at that.

1011
00:38:01,814 --> 00:38:02,984
Look how many miles we've gone.

1012
00:38:02,984 --> 00:38:04,125
And you're like, yeah, miles.

1013
00:38:04,125 --> 00:38:04,395
It's not that far.

1014
00:38:04,401 --> 00:38:05,234
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
And that's not an understatement.

1015
00:38:05,234 --> 00:38:07,544
Miles, literal miles, miles of fire out.

1016
00:38:07,814 --> 00:38:08,024
Yeah.

1017
00:38:08,029 --> 00:38:10,334
Truett Anderson: And you're like,
it's, it's just so much fun.

1018
00:38:10,339 --> 00:38:11,064
Like, especially

1019
00:38:11,265 --> 00:38:12,225
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
when you get a good rocking, like

1020
00:38:12,464 --> 00:38:14,265
very well coordinated tandem.

1021
00:38:14,265 --> 00:38:17,475
Like say you have three or four engines
going and then you know your lead's

1022
00:38:17,475 --> 00:38:20,595
putting out fire, you others' are
following, maybe cleaning up the, you

1023
00:38:20,595 --> 00:38:22,484
know, the line, securing the line.

1024
00:38:23,024 --> 00:38:25,515
And then number one's out they peel off.

1025
00:38:25,575 --> 00:38:26,865
Next one just plugs right in.

1026
00:38:26,870 --> 00:38:26,955
Mm-hmm.

1027
00:38:27,194 --> 00:38:28,185
To keep on going.

1028
00:38:28,185 --> 00:38:31,064
Dude, it's, it's, it's some
pretty cool shit to see a well

1029
00:38:31,064 --> 00:38:32,174
coordinated mobile attack.

1030
00:38:32,174 --> 00:38:33,555
It's like magic almost.

1031
00:38:33,734 --> 00:38:34,004
Oh yeah.

1032
00:38:34,799 --> 00:38:37,004
Truett Anderson: What it's crazy
too, is like how well, like,

1033
00:38:37,245 --> 00:38:40,035
you know, like everyone else
can jump in and do it with them.

1034
00:38:40,214 --> 00:38:40,365
Mm-hmm.

1035
00:38:40,605 --> 00:38:42,375
Especially in our state, like, oh yeah.

1036
00:38:42,375 --> 00:38:42,634
It's like a family.

1037
00:38:42,654 --> 00:38:43,785
It don't matter where you're at.

1038
00:38:43,785 --> 00:38:47,295
Like, it could be the Vegas truck that
comes up with the muck boys and Carson

1039
00:38:47,299 --> 00:38:49,725
boys and like, okay, who's taking lead?

1040
00:38:49,785 --> 00:38:50,265
All right.

1041
00:38:51,015 --> 00:38:53,625
And then you're just sitting in the
back like, I hope they run outta water.

1042
00:38:54,884 --> 00:38:55,395
Where's my turn?

1043
00:38:55,395 --> 00:38:58,065
I wanna get something like, don't
catch this, don't catch this.

1044
00:38:58,065 --> 00:39:01,125
Like, we're not gonna hit the corner
yet, boys just, we're almost there.

1045
00:39:01,754 --> 00:39:01,904
Oh

1046
00:39:01,904 --> 00:39:02,234
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
yeah.

1047
00:39:02,835 --> 00:39:06,254
Well, it's cool though because like
everybody on the, uh, in Nevada, at least

1048
00:39:06,254 --> 00:39:09,464
on the engines and well just everybody
in general, it's pretty well coordinated

1049
00:39:09,464 --> 00:39:11,024
and they just know exactly what to do.

1050
00:39:11,029 --> 00:39:13,694
Like the, I wanna say that the training
in the state of Nevada's pretty good.

1051
00:39:14,115 --> 00:39:17,024
One thing that kind of like threw me
for a loop though, is working in, under

1052
00:39:17,174 --> 00:39:20,774
other states and you bring, you bring
up the topic of mobile attack, it's like

1053
00:39:22,424 --> 00:39:24,315
pump creeks and roll pump and roll it.

1054
00:39:24,495 --> 00:39:26,085
Not even that, it's like they don't do it.

1055
00:39:26,089 --> 00:39:26,774
Right, right, right.

1056
00:39:26,774 --> 00:39:29,865
And there's apl, there's plenty of
places out there that would benefit

1057
00:39:29,870 --> 00:39:31,234
from like a solid mobile attack.

1058
00:39:32,445 --> 00:39:33,765
Yet, they don't really do it.

1059
00:39:33,815 --> 00:39:38,145
I, I haven't seen it very much outside of
the state, except for like certain areas.

1060
00:39:38,145 --> 00:39:39,285
Maybe like eastern Oregon.

1061
00:39:39,315 --> 00:39:40,605
I've seen it a handful of times.

1062
00:39:40,605 --> 00:39:41,095
That's Idaho.

1063
00:39:41,145 --> 00:39:42,435
Idaho, Idaho too.

1064
00:39:42,615 --> 00:39:42,885
Yeah.

1065
00:39:42,885 --> 00:39:44,025
Especially like, yeah.

1066
00:39:44,415 --> 00:39:45,435
South of Boise.

1067
00:39:45,435 --> 00:39:45,885
Yeah.

1068
00:39:45,975 --> 00:39:46,365
At all.

1069
00:39:46,425 --> 00:39:47,415
Bruno area.

1070
00:39:47,420 --> 00:39:48,525
That's that kind of area.

1071
00:39:48,530 --> 00:39:49,065
They do it.

1072
00:39:49,065 --> 00:39:49,066
Yeah.

1073
00:39:49,185 --> 00:39:51,775
Cause it's kind of like an extent that
to me, that's an extension of Elco.

1074
00:39:52,115 --> 00:39:52,335
Yes.

1075
00:39:53,445 --> 00:39:54,435
There's a state line, land

1076
00:39:54,435 --> 00:39:58,845
Austin Lee: type seemed like, uh,
you know, like a little bit of, not

1077
00:39:58,845 --> 00:40:03,075
river bottom fires, but you know, like
Arizona might perform a little bit.

1078
00:40:03,075 --> 00:40:06,375
Uh, Las Cruces, they did a
little bit when I was down there.

1079
00:40:06,885 --> 00:40:07,905
A little mobile attack.

1080
00:40:07,905 --> 00:40:09,045
But Was it common

1081
00:40:09,045 --> 00:40:09,046
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
though?

1082
00:40:09,051 --> 00:40:11,925
Like it's common as it is
here and southern Idaho, I

1083
00:40:11,930 --> 00:40:12,885
Austin Lee: guess it's all dependent.

1084
00:40:12,885 --> 00:40:14,985
We didn't get too many fires, but
the one we did, you know, we just

1085
00:40:14,985 --> 00:40:17,805
mobile attacked right off the road
because the other side was the river.

1086
00:40:17,955 --> 00:40:21,675
So, I mean, we just box it in
exactly like used the roads and.

1087
00:40:22,694 --> 00:40:23,025
Yep.

1088
00:40:23,145 --> 00:40:23,654
Put it out.

1089
00:40:23,745 --> 00:40:24,045
So, I mean, I

1090
00:40:24,045 --> 00:40:27,255
Chris Weaver: started in Wyoming with the
BLM and yeah, we mobiled you guys Mobiled.

1091
00:40:27,345 --> 00:40:27,645
Oh yeah.

1092
00:40:27,735 --> 00:40:27,855
I

1093
00:40:27,855 --> 00:40:28,395
Austin Lee: mean, I've

1094
00:40:28,395 --> 00:40:29,384
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
never fought fire in Wyoming,

1095
00:40:29,384 --> 00:40:31,575
so I guess I can't, you know,
it's all frame of reference,

1096
00:40:31,725 --> 00:40:33,045
Chris Weaver: mostly type six engines.

1097
00:40:33,049 --> 00:40:33,085
Mm-hmm.

1098
00:40:33,165 --> 00:40:35,775
But yeah, I mean, it was, it
was a mobile country and just

1099
00:40:35,779 --> 00:40:36,735
get out and roll it, you know.

1100
00:40:36,884 --> 00:40:37,005
Mm-hmm.

1101
00:40:38,235 --> 00:40:43,185
Um, but I mean, and I, I came to
Nevada, you know, for my first

1102
00:40:43,185 --> 00:40:47,235
two seasons were 17, 18, which
were obviously pretty exceptional.

1103
00:40:47,240 --> 00:40:52,214
And so, like the extent to which we
mobilized here was, was impressive.

1104
00:40:52,634 --> 00:40:52,845
Yeah.

1105
00:40:52,845 --> 00:40:56,955
You know, like it was, you know,
maybe a couple fires a summer

1106
00:40:56,955 --> 00:40:58,154
when I was in, uh, Wyoming.

1107
00:40:58,665 --> 00:41:03,855
But yeah, coming out here and it was
like every fire for hours and like, yeah.

1108
00:41:04,424 --> 00:41:06,435
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
So, oh yeah, let's just go

1109
00:41:06,435 --> 00:41:08,475
and show you like the amount
of versatility and engines.

1110
00:41:08,475 --> 00:41:09,225
Like, I hate that.

1111
00:41:09,915 --> 00:41:11,745
Like, yeah, there's
engine slugs out there.

1112
00:41:11,805 --> 00:41:13,725
Like everybody hates that term.

1113
00:41:13,725 --> 00:41:13,964
Right?

1114
00:41:14,174 --> 00:41:18,705
But they're, that's that name that,
that derogatory term I guess exists

1115
00:41:18,705 --> 00:41:21,134
for a reason because there are those
people that fight fire from the cab.

1116
00:41:21,134 --> 00:41:22,904
But that's not something you can do here.

1117
00:41:23,145 --> 00:41:26,774
You don't even have a fucking opportunity
to your As is getting outta that cab and

1118
00:41:26,774 --> 00:41:27,524
Truett Anderson: you're getting to work.

1119
00:41:27,524 --> 00:41:27,585
Yeah.

1120
00:41:27,765 --> 00:41:32,384
It and I think it doesn't matter what
part of the state, like you're getting out

1121
00:41:32,444 --> 00:41:35,024
that cabret eventually that you gotta go.

1122
00:41:35,115 --> 00:41:35,444
Oh yeah.

1123
00:41:36,254 --> 00:41:39,134
Chris Weaver: I feel like a monitor
in Vegas would be nice about mid-July.

1124
00:41:39,404 --> 00:41:39,674
Yeah.

1125
00:41:40,395 --> 00:41:43,904
Truett Anderson: Just to spread the
air man, like an elephant out there

1126
00:41:43,904 --> 00:41:45,944
like, alright guys, go get under it.

1127
00:41:46,065 --> 00:41:46,575
Let's go.

1128
00:41:46,665 --> 00:41:50,835
But yeah, like it's, you just, I don't
know, depending on which side of the

1129
00:41:50,835 --> 00:41:58,185
state, but man, I love dude, but I,
I think it took me, I don't, I don't

1130
00:41:58,185 --> 00:42:03,600
think I actually got to do mobile until
like, My fourth or fifth season hit.

1131
00:42:03,870 --> 00:42:04,080
Really?

1132
00:42:04,410 --> 00:42:04,680
Yeah.

1133
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,930
I mean, on the Eley district
you don't do mobile.

1134
00:42:07,049 --> 00:42:07,259
Yes.

1135
00:42:07,259 --> 00:42:07,770
You, it's super

1136
00:42:07,770 --> 00:42:08,670
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
mountainous over there.

1137
00:42:08,670 --> 00:42:09,031
It's, it's, yeah.

1138
00:42:09,036 --> 00:42:09,359
And you just

1139
00:42:09,569 --> 00:42:11,490
Truett Anderson: drive up and then
you get out and you hike up, put

1140
00:42:11,490 --> 00:42:14,370
it out and then like the, you know,
like those early years I was on hell

1141
00:42:14,370 --> 00:42:16,230
attack and a few other things, so.

1142
00:42:16,230 --> 00:42:16,319
Mm-hmm.

1143
00:42:17,009 --> 00:42:20,129
Which brings back the engines,
like how much we are getting

1144
00:42:20,129 --> 00:42:21,290
better at working with the others.

1145
00:42:21,690 --> 00:42:26,190
So like with heli attack, like in
Nevada, we get to go out and like do

1146
00:42:26,190 --> 00:42:28,710
the trainings so that we can hover fill.

1147
00:42:28,740 --> 00:42:29,790
That's the cool shit right there.

1148
00:42:29,795 --> 00:42:31,799
And it's like that right there, like cool.

1149
00:42:31,799 --> 00:42:34,980
We, we found a way to help
out like, so the helicopter,

1150
00:42:35,220 --> 00:42:36,609
cuz there's no water, so Yeah.

1151
00:42:36,690 --> 00:42:36,839
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Yeah.

1152
00:42:36,839 --> 00:42:37,080
There's not

1153
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:37,930
Chris Weaver: very many water sources.

1154
00:42:38,190 --> 00:42:39,370
That's something unique.

1155
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:39,890
Yeah.

1156
00:42:39,890 --> 00:42:41,069
Like the hum field.

1157
00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:41,430
Yeah.

1158
00:42:41,435 --> 00:42:41,490
Yeah.

1159
00:42:41,609 --> 00:42:43,370
I mean outside of Elie
District, I don't think

1160
00:42:43,870 --> 00:42:44,089
Truett Anderson: so.

1161
00:42:44,129 --> 00:42:45,650
I did it in Elk Gro seen once.

1162
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:46,370
Okay.

1163
00:42:46,990 --> 00:42:48,299
And it was a few times.

1164
00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:48,930
Yeah.

1165
00:42:48,930 --> 00:42:51,569
It was awesome to watch everyone
around me like, what are you doing?

1166
00:42:51,575 --> 00:42:54,660
I'm like, just, we got this
in set up and just started.

1167
00:42:54,660 --> 00:42:55,049
Yeah.

1168
00:42:55,150 --> 00:42:55,529
We ne

1169
00:42:55,980 --> 00:42:57,060
Elliot Krinka: we never
did it when you were there.

1170
00:42:57,089 --> 00:42:57,509
Uhuh in

1171
00:42:57,509 --> 00:42:57,839
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Noga.

1172
00:42:57,845 --> 00:42:58,009
Mm-hmm.

1173
00:42:59,280 --> 00:42:59,490
Chris Weaver: Hmm.

1174
00:43:00,060 --> 00:43:02,340
I may have heard of it
like being done, but Yeah.

1175
00:43:02,370 --> 00:43:03,660
The only time I've ever done it was an

1176
00:43:03,660 --> 00:43:03,960
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Elie.

1177
00:43:04,110 --> 00:43:04,470
Yeah.

1178
00:43:04,890 --> 00:43:05,160
Oh yeah.

1179
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:05,700
That's a thing.

1180
00:43:06,090 --> 00:43:07,080
That's, that's another thing.

1181
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,110
So hover fills, let's, let's go into
that just for the people that are trying

1182
00:43:10,110 --> 00:43:14,130
to understand what a hover fill is,
because it's not, that is not common.

1183
00:43:14,130 --> 00:43:14,131
Yeah.

1184
00:43:14,136 --> 00:43:14,850
And yeah.

1185
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,270
Don't talk about shit that's not
really done outside of the state.

1186
00:43:18,660 --> 00:43:18,900
Yeah.

1187
00:43:18,900 --> 00:43:19,530
So I think

1188
00:43:19,590 --> 00:43:21,210
Truett Anderson: Nevada, I think
we might be one of the only

1189
00:43:21,210 --> 00:43:22,860
states that's able to do that.

1190
00:43:23,220 --> 00:43:27,630
Um, so yeah, the helicopter comes
in, you get your engine set up

1191
00:43:27,630 --> 00:43:32,490
with run out a hundred foot hose,
crate that thing up, like make sure

1192
00:43:32,490 --> 00:43:34,200
that your pump is that full max.

1193
00:43:34,620 --> 00:43:35,910
So you gotta have two people leave

1194
00:43:36,030 --> 00:43:36,361
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
the foam off.

1195
00:43:36,460 --> 00:43:36,750
Yeah.

1196
00:43:36,850 --> 00:43:37,070
Yes.

1197
00:43:37,070 --> 00:43:38,220
Leave the foam off.

1198
00:43:38,220 --> 00:43:39,300
I've seen that happen.

1199
00:43:39,630 --> 00:43:42,150
But, uh, but then they put the
recirc open and the foam's like

1200
00:43:42,150 --> 00:43:44,010
constantly flowing at 1%, dude.

1201
00:43:44,070 --> 00:43:44,340
Oh.

1202
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:45,120
But

1203
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:45,930
Truett Anderson: uh, and yeah.

1204
00:43:45,935 --> 00:43:50,160
And then you go out and that
helicopter, you go stand under it and

1205
00:43:50,420 --> 00:43:53,910
it's hovering above you and two of
you're trying to hold a bucket up.

1206
00:43:54,180 --> 00:43:54,420
Yep.

1207
00:43:54,500 --> 00:43:56,580
Well, somebody's trying to
spray the water in there.

1208
00:43:57,089 --> 00:43:58,830
You're, you're gonna leave what?

1209
00:43:59,040 --> 00:43:59,850
Oh yeah, you will.

1210
00:44:00,029 --> 00:44:02,520
Like, there's no way, especially
if you got a newer person that's

1211
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,819
never like, understood it and they
like, and all that, where they just

1212
00:44:05,825 --> 00:44:07,740
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
slam the boar open on the gate

1213
00:44:07,745 --> 00:44:09,089
or the gate open and you're like,

1214
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:09,930
Truett Anderson: oh my goodness.

1215
00:44:09,930 --> 00:44:12,779
Like, and you're holding them
there and they're freaking out.

1216
00:44:12,785 --> 00:44:12,850
Cuz

1217
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,120
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
it's a lot of force coming out of these,

1218
00:44:15,125 --> 00:44:16,500
this like an inch and a half hose.

1219
00:44:16,740 --> 00:44:19,020
If you're feeling a bucket with an inch or
an inch and a half hose, there's a lot of

1220
00:44:19,020 --> 00:44:21,029
force coming out of that, that full Yeah.

1221
00:44:21,029 --> 00:44:21,779
Performance.

1222
00:44:21,900 --> 00:44:23,009
But you also have helicopter

1223
00:44:23,009 --> 00:44:23,850
Elliot Krinka: overhead, then you

1224
00:44:23,850 --> 00:44:25,569
Truett Anderson: got the skids
of the helicopter, right?

1225
00:44:25,569 --> 00:44:25,730
Yeah.

1226
00:44:25,730 --> 00:44:26,009
You got the

1227
00:44:26,009 --> 00:44:27,129
Elliot Krinka: duck, literally.

1228
00:44:27,129 --> 00:44:27,290
Truett Anderson: Right.

1229
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,109
Well, and then what, like, you
know, if it's windy, he's lifting

1230
00:44:31,109 --> 00:44:33,990
and so you're lifting a little
bit, it feels like, oh yeah.

1231
00:44:33,990 --> 00:44:34,859
But you're just like, all right.

1232
00:44:34,865 --> 00:44:39,270
And then trying to get out of there,
like, I mean, it's, it's a good time.

1233
00:44:39,540 --> 00:44:40,770
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
It's pretty wild, man.

1234
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,350
Like people are probably
gonna be listening to this

1235
00:44:43,350 --> 00:44:44,549
portion and like, hover fills.

1236
00:44:44,700 --> 00:44:45,390
Are you guys high?

1237
00:44:45,390 --> 00:44:47,129
Like, what the fuck are you guys thinking?

1238
00:44:47,129 --> 00:44:47,430
Right?

1239
00:44:47,430 --> 00:44:47,670
Like,

1240
00:44:47,670 --> 00:44:48,450
Austin Lee: we signed off on this.

1241
00:44:48,629 --> 00:44:48,810
Yeah.

1242
00:44:48,810 --> 00:44:49,230
Who signed

1243
00:44:49,230 --> 00:44:49,799
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
off on this?

1244
00:44:49,805 --> 00:44:52,810
It's like, they're probably thinking the
safety card every time, but yeah, it's.

1245
00:44:54,630 --> 00:44:57,180
It's, it's, it's a lot
safer than you think it is.

1246
00:44:57,180 --> 00:44:59,520
Obviously there's always gonna be
an inherent risk with firefighting.

1247
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:00,330
It's a dangerous job.

1248
00:45:00,390 --> 00:45:00,510
Oh yeah.

1249
00:45:00,510 --> 00:45:01,200
News flash.

1250
00:45:01,650 --> 00:45:02,040
Cool.

1251
00:45:02,250 --> 00:45:05,490
We don't have the ability to go
just dip out of Uncle Joe's pond

1252
00:45:05,490 --> 00:45:08,040
because, you know, it's his, his
stock pond or something like that.

1253
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,540
So we gotta do it with what we've got.

1254
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,110
And that is one of those resources out
there that we, it's really effective.

1255
00:45:13,110 --> 00:45:13,390
Yeah.

1256
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:13,750
It'll

1257
00:45:13,980 --> 00:45:15,210
Truett Anderson: speed the process up.

1258
00:45:15,210 --> 00:45:19,350
Like it'll, it gets the guys on the
ground and engaged a lot faster I think.

1259
00:45:19,350 --> 00:45:20,010
Like Oh yeah.

1260
00:45:20,070 --> 00:45:22,860
Especially in spots like where the
trucks are still trying to get in there.

1261
00:45:23,190 --> 00:45:25,260
You got an extra truck around
like, Hey, we're gonna do a couple

1262
00:45:25,260 --> 00:45:28,620
hover fills so that we can boom
and start anchoring this in.

1263
00:45:29,010 --> 00:45:32,070
Cuz usually yeah, the engines get
there, they can take this side, but that

1264
00:45:32,370 --> 00:45:34,620
one's running up the hill like Yeah.

1265
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:34,770
You

1266
00:45:34,770 --> 00:45:35,910
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
know, you can knock some steam

1267
00:45:35,910 --> 00:45:36,790
out of it in the meantime.

1268
00:45:36,790 --> 00:45:36,990
Yeah,

1269
00:45:36,990 --> 00:45:37,230
Truett Anderson: yeah.

1270
00:45:37,230 --> 00:45:40,740
It won't run as fast if you can
get some guys going up different

1271
00:45:40,740 --> 00:45:41,820
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
flas, so support 'em with,

1272
00:45:41,820 --> 00:45:43,290
uh, helicopter operations.

1273
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:43,410
Mm-hmm.

1274
00:45:43,650 --> 00:45:43,890
Yeah.

1275
00:45:44,430 --> 00:45:46,500
That's a cool thing about,
uh, engines I think.

1276
00:45:46,500 --> 00:45:47,820
I think that's underutilized.

1277
00:45:47,820 --> 00:45:51,134
Everybody wants to be, Everybody
wants the glory of, oh, I'm a

1278
00:45:51,134 --> 00:45:53,444
hotshot, lifetime hotshot hand crew.

1279
00:45:53,444 --> 00:45:53,865
You know?

1280
00:45:53,865 --> 00:45:55,154
And it's, it's more than that.

1281
00:45:55,154 --> 00:45:57,705
I mean, engines are a great place,
especially with the training and

1282
00:45:57,705 --> 00:45:59,085
development side of things, right?

1283
00:45:59,924 --> 00:46:01,875
There's a lot of versatility in engines.

1284
00:46:01,875 --> 00:46:04,634
You can crew up, you can get off
district, you can go see some other

1285
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,214
country, you can go see different
fuel types, all that stuff.

1286
00:46:07,785 --> 00:46:10,964
And then, uh, yeah, like things like
that are random, like the hover fill.

1287
00:46:11,234 --> 00:46:13,245
There's a lot of versatility
built in these platforms, and

1288
00:46:13,245 --> 00:46:16,185
I think it's oftentimes under
underrated and overlooked.

1289
00:46:16,305 --> 00:46:16,424
Mm-hmm.

1290
00:46:16,725 --> 00:46:20,205
How in which direction you can
go with your career just by

1291
00:46:20,205 --> 00:46:21,615
starting, even out on mention.

1292
00:46:21,944 --> 00:46:23,714
So, none

1293
00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:23,924
Truett Anderson: the,

1294
00:46:24,495 --> 00:46:26,294
Elliot Krinka: sorry, the
possibility is moving up

1295
00:46:26,475 --> 00:46:26,984
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
in your career.

1296
00:46:26,984 --> 00:46:27,044
Yeah.

1297
00:46:27,049 --> 00:46:28,754
And you're not stifled, you know,

1298
00:46:28,935 --> 00:46:32,595
Elliot Krinka: engines probably the, the
easiest way to move up in your career.

1299
00:46:33,135 --> 00:46:33,735
Hot shots.

1300
00:46:33,735 --> 00:46:35,565
Everybody, like you said,
everybody wants to do it.

1301
00:46:35,565 --> 00:46:36,555
Everybody wants to be one.

1302
00:46:36,795 --> 00:46:36,945
Yeah.

1303
00:46:36,945 --> 00:46:37,215
But that's

1304
00:46:37,215 --> 00:46:38,085
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
body's not going so

1305
00:46:38,085 --> 00:46:38,295
Elliot Krinka: hard, man.

1306
00:46:38,295 --> 00:46:38,655
Yeah.

1307
00:46:38,715 --> 00:46:39,045
Correct.

1308
00:46:39,045 --> 00:46:39,795
They're staying there.

1309
00:46:40,035 --> 00:46:40,335
Yeah.

1310
00:46:40,425 --> 00:46:44,565
Engines is, you know, you get your
firefighter one, move up, get your eop.

1311
00:46:44,895 --> 00:46:48,615
They're, and right now we have so
many openings throughout the state.

1312
00:46:48,675 --> 00:46:49,935
It's ridiculous.

1313
00:46:50,025 --> 00:46:50,565
It's sad.

1314
00:46:50,565 --> 00:46:51,525
We have so many openings.

1315
00:46:51,530 --> 00:46:51,785
Yeah.

1316
00:46:52,095 --> 00:46:53,895
So many possibilities
move up in the engine

1317
00:46:53,895 --> 00:46:54,285
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
program.

1318
00:46:55,155 --> 00:46:59,115
There's a lot of, uh, that's a, that's
a very complex topic there, I wanna

1319
00:46:59,115 --> 00:47:02,475
say, just because of like the paid
classification issues, you know,

1320
00:47:02,595 --> 00:47:04,995
and then Nevada's a expensive state.

1321
00:47:04,995 --> 00:47:09,255
It doesn't matter if you're an e e, Elco,
Reno, God damn, it's expensive here.

1322
00:47:09,375 --> 00:47:10,396
I mean, it's an expensive state.

1323
00:47:10,695 --> 00:47:13,095
The cost of living here is astronomical.

1324
00:47:13,100 --> 00:47:14,805
Truett Anderson: And, and
people don't realize that.

1325
00:47:14,805 --> 00:47:20,205
Like, no, I, you know, like I've been in
Vegas for a long time, but it was just

1326
00:47:20,205 --> 00:47:22,575
as expensive to live in Elko or Eley.

1327
00:47:23,415 --> 00:47:24,105
And it's like, dude.

1328
00:47:24,175 --> 00:47:24,465
Yeah.

1329
00:47:24,465 --> 00:47:26,265
And people are like, oh, it's
just a small little town.

1330
00:47:26,715 --> 00:47:27,825
Uh, yeah, that small.

1331
00:47:28,015 --> 00:47:28,305
Yeah.

1332
00:47:28,575 --> 00:47:30,015
So it costs more to get stuff there.

1333
00:47:30,015 --> 00:47:30,585
And then the mining.

1334
00:47:31,185 --> 00:47:31,715
Like, mm-hmm.

1335
00:47:31,815 --> 00:47:31,995
It's

1336
00:47:31,995 --> 00:47:32,355
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
money.

1337
00:47:32,445 --> 00:47:32,565
Yeah.

1338
00:47:32,565 --> 00:47:35,595
It's, there's so much mining and, and
like one of the overlooked things too

1339
00:47:35,595 --> 00:47:37,185
is like the agriculture community here.

1340
00:47:37,185 --> 00:47:39,975
Like, you go down to Austin,
there's like some seriously

1341
00:47:39,975 --> 00:47:42,525
fuck you rich people out there.

1342
00:47:42,585 --> 00:47:42,705
Yeah.

1343
00:47:42,705 --> 00:47:45,705
And it's all like generational
wealth from like ag either

1344
00:47:45,705 --> 00:47:48,495
ranching or, um, alfalfa farming.

1345
00:47:48,675 --> 00:47:50,835
I mean, it's expensive.

1346
00:47:51,105 --> 00:47:51,435
Yeah.

1347
00:47:51,675 --> 00:47:52,995
Doesn't matter if you're
in Austins, Nevada, dude.

1348
00:47:52,995 --> 00:47:54,375
It's like, it's expensive.

1349
00:47:54,375 --> 00:47:58,695
A shack in the ghetto with maybe a
garage or a one car garage that was

1350
00:47:58,695 --> 00:48:00,705
built in the 1940s is still gonna be 300

1351
00:48:00,705 --> 00:48:01,095
Truett Anderson: grand.

1352
00:48:01,155 --> 00:48:01,455
Yeah.

1353
00:48:01,725 --> 00:48:02,595
Which it shouldn't be.

1354
00:48:04,295 --> 00:48:05,685
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Welcome to the club, man.

1355
00:48:05,685 --> 00:48:06,705
It's, this is Nevada.

1356
00:48:07,305 --> 00:48:07,425
Truett Anderson: Yeah.

1357
00:48:07,545 --> 00:48:11,745
And I mean, you go other places,
like, you know, especially

1358
00:48:11,745 --> 00:48:12,735
now it's the hiring thing.

1359
00:48:12,735 --> 00:48:15,675
People are jail bouncing, and
it's like, yeah, all right.

1360
00:48:15,675 --> 00:48:21,195
Like, cool, they're gonna offer you
this little bit now, but why, why leave?

1361
00:48:21,285 --> 00:48:21,975
Just stay.

1362
00:48:22,035 --> 00:48:22,575
Stick it out.

1363
00:48:22,575 --> 00:48:23,835
And that's the, it's the hard part.

1364
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,205
It's hard to find the right words to keep.

1365
00:48:26,205 --> 00:48:27,265
Your dudes still wanna work for you.

1366
00:48:27,265 --> 00:48:27,585
Mm-hmm.

1367
00:48:27,665 --> 00:48:27,705
But,

1368
00:48:29,265 --> 00:48:31,545
Austin Lee: Working with Weaver a lot
this winter on the recruitment side

1369
00:48:31,549 --> 00:48:33,975
of things, you know, I, I visited
the high school a lot, just trying

1370
00:48:33,975 --> 00:48:36,525
to get those 18 year old kids trying
to recruit, you know, and yeah.

1371
00:48:36,525 --> 00:48:38,895
A lot of their parents are in
that mining industry, you know,

1372
00:48:38,895 --> 00:48:42,254
and they make good money and it
looks really appealing growing up.

1373
00:48:42,254 --> 00:48:45,805
And, you know, dad or mom working
for the mine is, you know, you

1374
00:48:45,805 --> 00:48:49,605
know, supporting you and, you know,
buying the things you want as a kid.

1375
00:48:49,605 --> 00:48:50,504
And I think that's great.

1376
00:48:50,504 --> 00:48:51,165
Bitching house.

1377
00:48:51,194 --> 00:48:51,404
Yeah.

1378
00:48:51,404 --> 00:48:51,406
Yeah.

1379
00:48:51,464 --> 00:48:54,855
No, you know, hats off to the mining
eating ramen every night e Exactly.

1380
00:48:54,855 --> 00:48:58,575
You know, but, uh, you know, I, I just
tell 'em, you know, like, come try

1381
00:48:58,575 --> 00:49:00,045
it and let the job speak for itself.

1382
00:49:00,134 --> 00:49:00,404
Yeah.

1383
00:49:00,435 --> 00:49:02,535
You know, cuz like, that's
gonna tell you whether you love

1384
00:49:02,535 --> 00:49:04,095
it or, or leave it, you know.

1385
00:49:04,335 --> 00:49:08,234
And originally I wanted to do structure
fire and everybody's like, go get

1386
00:49:08,234 --> 00:49:09,285
your foot in the door in Wildland.

1387
00:49:09,285 --> 00:49:11,714
And my first season I was
like, I'm not leaving.

1388
00:49:12,194 --> 00:49:12,615
I love it.

1389
00:49:12,785 --> 00:49:13,125
You know?

1390
00:49:13,234 --> 00:49:13,525
Yeah.

1391
00:49:13,585 --> 00:49:17,115
And so, you know, we get to travel, we
get to do all that fun stuff, you know,

1392
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,745
and, and you get to see the country
essentially, you know, putting fire

1393
00:49:20,745 --> 00:49:22,424
out, standing where no man stood before.

1394
00:49:22,424 --> 00:49:24,557
It's just, it's just, it hits
deep sometimes, you know?

1395
00:49:24,562 --> 00:49:27,509
And so, That was like my
biggest selling point.

1396
00:49:27,509 --> 00:49:31,470
So for any of you listeners, you
know, just give it a, give it a shot.

1397
00:49:31,470 --> 00:49:31,529
Yeah.

1398
00:49:31,620 --> 00:49:32,400
Let the job speak for

1399
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:32,759
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
itself.

1400
00:49:32,910 --> 00:49:34,109
Keep your toe in the deep end there.

1401
00:49:34,290 --> 00:49:38,730
But also, hey, side note, you guys get
to, uh, well, working in Nevada on any

1402
00:49:38,730 --> 00:49:42,210
platform, whether it's held at cruise
or engines, you definitely get a good,

1403
00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:43,920
uh, pin on some of your hunt zones.

1404
00:49:43,924 --> 00:49:47,040
You could use little pre scouting, so
Oh yeah, yeah, that's, yeah, that's

1405
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,410
another got that going for you as well.

1406
00:49:49,410 --> 00:49:51,060
But yeah, I mean it's, it's hard though.

1407
00:49:51,060 --> 00:49:54,960
It's uh, I mean the pay parity thing,
it's, it's hard, especially in this state.

1408
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,250
And California's even worse.

1409
00:49:56,250 --> 00:49:59,009
I mean the cost of living here is
like, we're bitching about that, but

1410
00:49:59,015 --> 00:50:02,109
California, oh fuck man, it's like bad.

1411
00:50:02,529 --> 00:50:05,279
But that's the thing though, it's like
you have so much opportunity to move up.

1412
00:50:05,279 --> 00:50:06,660
You could be a GS fantastic.

1413
00:50:06,660 --> 00:50:08,460
I mean we have plenty of
them in this room, in this

1414
00:50:08,460 --> 00:50:09,839
building for this whole week.

1415
00:50:09,839 --> 00:50:10,140
Right.

1416
00:50:10,799 --> 00:50:13,980
And uh, they all started somewhere and
that's the thing is it's getting your

1417
00:50:13,980 --> 00:50:15,210
foot in the door starting somewhere.

1418
00:50:15,210 --> 00:50:17,910
Cause there's a lot of
opportunity in fire.

1419
00:50:18,029 --> 00:50:19,350
I mean, you don't even
have to stay in fire.

1420
00:50:19,350 --> 00:50:23,970
You can go be an ologist or whatever
is so, It's a lot, lot of places to go.

1421
00:50:24,030 --> 00:50:24,180
And

1422
00:50:24,180 --> 00:50:26,820
Truett Anderson: that's one of those
big selling points like that, you

1423
00:50:26,820 --> 00:50:29,640
know, cause I do able to help out with
a lot of the recruiting down south.

1424
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,240
Like I, I love to go to the schools
and, and try to get kids engaged.

1425
00:50:33,570 --> 00:50:33,660
Mm-hmm.

1426
00:50:33,905 --> 00:50:37,290
But that is one of the biggest selling
points is like, hey man, you might not

1427
00:50:37,290 --> 00:50:39,270
like fire, but like you got a retirement.

1428
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:39,750
Oh yeah.

1429
00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:40,180
Real quick.

1430
00:50:40,490 --> 00:50:44,670
Like, and some of the schools like
you go to, and depending which

1431
00:50:44,675 --> 00:50:47,250
school it is, like yeah, they've got
rich parents, like they don't care.

1432
00:50:47,250 --> 00:50:50,250
But you go to the, one of the trade
schools, you go to these lower

1433
00:50:50,250 --> 00:50:53,580
income style schools, especially
in Vegas, we got like 28 high

1434
00:50:53,580 --> 00:50:55,680
schools to try to visit all year.

1435
00:50:55,740 --> 00:50:57,690
And like you go to one of those
schools where those kids are like,

1436
00:50:57,690 --> 00:50:59,280
wait, I can get a job and do what?

1437
00:50:59,285 --> 00:51:01,320
Yeah, I can get a
retirement, I can do this.

1438
00:51:01,380 --> 00:51:02,190
Like, yeah man.

1439
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:06,390
And the hardest part though
is the application process.

1440
00:51:06,395 --> 00:51:07,180
That's, oh man, that's the

1441
00:51:07,185 --> 00:51:07,560
Chris Weaver: killer.

1442
00:51:07,650 --> 00:51:08,610
Yeah, for sure.

1443
00:51:08,670 --> 00:51:09,840
Like, so Yeah.

1444
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:15,330
Um, at the state level last winter
we started a recruitment retention

1445
00:51:15,335 --> 00:51:19,380
program and uh, yeah, Austin was
our rep for Winnemucca and we had.

1446
00:51:20,190 --> 00:51:24,690
District reps, um, throughout the state
that were working on recruitment for,

1447
00:51:24,690 --> 00:51:26,279
you know, their needs on the district.

1448
00:51:26,279 --> 00:51:30,900
And yeah, going through that application
process and like, what we found was

1449
00:51:31,230 --> 00:51:35,700
the, the districts that were able to
sit down with interested applicants

1450
00:51:35,700 --> 00:51:40,350
and essentially walk them through the
entire process unique where we saw the

1451
00:51:40,350 --> 00:51:41,160
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
most success.

1452
00:51:41,190 --> 00:51:41,430
Yeah.

1453
00:51:41,549 --> 00:51:45,090
Like I had no fucking clue what I was
doing when I first applied to USA Jobs,

1454
00:51:45,095 --> 00:51:47,490
and that was shit almost 15 years ago.

1455
00:51:47,549 --> 00:51:47,640
Right.

1456
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:47,850
Yeah.

1457
00:51:48,390 --> 00:51:52,080
Like how do you explain that to
somebody over like the phone,

1458
00:51:52,830 --> 00:51:53,549
Chris Weaver: you need to do this.

1459
00:51:53,555 --> 00:51:56,430
Like, and we're still getting, I mean
even, you know, applying for that,

1460
00:51:56,730 --> 00:51:59,279
not even that first job, but that
first career seasonal or whatever,

1461
00:51:59,279 --> 00:52:02,610
like people are still getting hung up
and getting, you know, kicked back.

1462
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:03,150
Cause Well, they forget

1463
00:52:03,150 --> 00:52:04,920
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
to put their 40 hours of work week.

1464
00:52:05,009 --> 00:52:05,520
Yeah, totally.

1465
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:06,090
Chris Weaver: Exactly.

1466
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:06,330
Yeah.

1467
00:52:06,420 --> 00:52:10,380
Or driver's license or whatever, you
know, and yeah, you get hung up and then

1468
00:52:10,590 --> 00:52:13,860
just the way the system works, like, all
right, well now you gotta wait until this

1469
00:52:13,860 --> 00:52:16,681
time next year, and then you're trying
to convince 'em that it's still a good.

1470
00:52:17,655 --> 00:52:21,615
A good choice to be here and, and, you
know, put in that time and, and energy

1471
00:52:21,615 --> 00:52:25,155
and wait that extra year for that
career seasonal position or whatever.

1472
00:52:25,155 --> 00:52:26,475
So that's where the challenge is.

1473
00:52:26,475 --> 00:52:31,155
Just like, we're so rigid in some of
the stuff that the way the system's

1474
00:52:31,155 --> 00:52:35,265
set up, you know, like, whereas like
yeah, in the private sector, it's like

1475
00:52:36,165 --> 00:52:37,255
a lot more flexible it seems like.

1476
00:52:37,575 --> 00:52:37,755
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Yeah.

1477
00:52:37,815 --> 00:52:41,175
Gimme your one page or two page resume
depending on if you're like mid-career

1478
00:52:41,175 --> 00:52:42,884
entry level or professional, you know?

1479
00:52:43,065 --> 00:52:43,215
Yeah.

1480
00:52:43,215 --> 00:52:44,295
And it's just like, here you go.

1481
00:52:44,625 --> 00:52:48,405
Truett Anderson: Well, it's funny
too, is how every organization

1482
00:52:48,410 --> 00:52:49,095
does something different.

1483
00:52:49,305 --> 00:52:49,605
Yeah.

1484
00:52:49,695 --> 00:52:53,445
And this year was the first
time I ever seen the hiring.

1485
00:52:53,445 --> 00:52:57,015
Like, they would go to Redding
and all that and he would just

1486
00:52:57,015 --> 00:52:58,545
go up, have you had a resume?

1487
00:52:58,545 --> 00:52:59,175
And they're like, cool.

1488
00:52:59,175 --> 00:53:01,065
Hi, wait.

1489
00:53:01,065 --> 00:53:01,486
Whoa, whoa.

1490
00:53:01,545 --> 00:53:02,895
Why are you, hold on, hold on.

1491
00:53:03,285 --> 00:53:04,305
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Like, I wish it was that

1492
00:53:04,305 --> 00:53:04,725
Truett Anderson: easy for me.

1493
00:53:05,175 --> 00:53:06,975
And it's, it's crazy how that works.

1494
00:53:06,975 --> 00:53:13,395
But man, like the other biggest issue is
these kids like the, oh, this is too hard.

1495
00:53:14,535 --> 00:53:17,175
Which is cool, like, all right,
we weeded you out, but man, like

1496
00:53:17,355 --> 00:53:20,505
there's some, you're, you're
wishing that they would've applied.

1497
00:53:20,510 --> 00:53:22,845
Like, so in Vegas, the one
year I went to the school three

1498
00:53:22,845 --> 00:53:23,955
different times, same school.

1499
00:53:24,765 --> 00:53:27,225
First time there was like a hundred
kids in the room and talked with.

1500
00:53:27,675 --> 00:53:28,035
Cool.

1501
00:53:28,335 --> 00:53:30,765
Next time there's like 30 kids.

1502
00:53:31,155 --> 00:53:35,415
Then I went back, there's 20 kids after
school and they all brought their laptops

1503
00:53:36,015 --> 00:53:40,785
and I had 'em all open 'em up going to
USA Jobs and we sat there for two and a

1504
00:53:40,785 --> 00:53:44,025
half hours and we applied like no shit.

1505
00:53:44,205 --> 00:53:44,505
Yeah.

1506
00:53:44,505 --> 00:53:48,615
And you know, I don't know if any
of 'em took a job, they didn't come

1507
00:53:48,620 --> 00:53:53,175
to Vegas, but you know what, like I
got toyed more kids to go in there.

1508
00:53:53,235 --> 00:53:53,925
It's the start, right?

1509
00:53:53,925 --> 00:53:56,985
But yeah, but show in the
process and and watching how it

1510
00:53:56,985 --> 00:53:58,815
dwindled down, like exposure, we

1511
00:53:58,875 --> 00:53:59,235
Austin Lee: Yeah.

1512
00:53:59,295 --> 00:53:59,565
Yeah.

1513
00:53:59,565 --> 00:54:00,645
It's the exposure right there.

1514
00:54:00,825 --> 00:54:01,125
So

1515
00:54:01,905 --> 00:54:02,235
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
it's,

1516
00:54:03,285 --> 00:54:04,995
Truett Anderson: yeah, it's not
the greatest way to go recruit it.

1517
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,215
Like it's time consuming, that's for sure.

1518
00:54:07,215 --> 00:54:08,055
Super time consuming.

1519
00:54:08,055 --> 00:54:11,235
But I mean, at the end of
the day, like it helps.

1520
00:54:11,985 --> 00:54:14,775
But I kids would rather
go be an ad anymore than

1521
00:54:15,495 --> 00:54:16,665
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
that's how I started out, man.

1522
00:54:16,695 --> 00:54:19,545
I mean, it's a great program for,
especially for like a farm week.

1523
00:54:19,545 --> 00:54:23,384
And I wouldn't have had, you know, worked
into a permanent full-time position

1524
00:54:23,384 --> 00:54:24,795
unless I started in the ad program.

1525
00:54:24,795 --> 00:54:24,975
Right.

1526
00:54:24,975 --> 00:54:25,875
That was my foot in the door.

1527
00:54:25,875 --> 00:54:26,955
And it's, I think it's a great program.

1528
00:54:26,955 --> 00:54:30,165
It serves its purpose, but if
you want to like actually make a

1529
00:54:30,170 --> 00:54:33,255
career out of this, like, you gotta
apply, you gotta start somewhere.

1530
00:54:33,285 --> 00:54:34,035
You gotta get in.

1531
00:54:34,335 --> 00:54:36,255
Austin Lee: So, yeah, and
I think the ad's are great.

1532
00:54:36,255 --> 00:54:40,065
I mean, um, you know, we have e n a and
w n a and like worked with them a lot.

1533
00:54:40,065 --> 00:54:44,355
Those, those programs, you know,
provide, I think also like a catchall

1534
00:54:44,355 --> 00:54:48,615
where, you know, at at least two or
three guys this year where, um, you

1535
00:54:48,615 --> 00:54:52,785
know, there were, there were engines
that were interested with them, then

1536
00:54:52,785 --> 00:54:53,955
they messed up their application.

1537
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,875
But it's like, all right,
we'll get this ad application

1538
00:54:55,875 --> 00:54:57,575
in, you know, and then mm-hmm.

1539
00:54:57,955 --> 00:55:02,985
Um, at the very least, like we can capture
some of that population that's still

1540
00:55:02,990 --> 00:55:04,965
interested, but, but may have been missed.

1541
00:55:04,965 --> 00:55:08,595
So, you know, I think the biggest part
of it is just that tracking though

1542
00:55:08,595 --> 00:55:12,585
is like, You know, going to the high
schools or whatever, but then like that

1543
00:55:12,585 --> 00:55:14,504
follow up and just keeping up with 'em.

1544
00:55:14,509 --> 00:55:18,225
And, and that's where the districts
did really well this winter with just

1545
00:55:18,225 --> 00:55:23,595
like, um, you know, creating like events
where, you know, like you guys had

1546
00:55:23,595 --> 00:55:25,004
folks come down to the station, right?

1547
00:55:25,004 --> 00:55:25,006
Yep.

1548
00:55:25,015 --> 00:55:32,296
And, and then like, Elco rented out a, um,
lap or a, um, it's like a computer lab.

1549
00:55:32,296 --> 00:55:33,075
Computer lab, yeah.

1550
00:55:33,075 --> 00:55:33,076
Yeah.

1551
00:55:33,314 --> 00:55:34,605
Kinda like a community college there.

1552
00:55:34,605 --> 00:55:34,845
Yeah.

1553
00:55:35,024 --> 00:55:35,265
Okay.

1554
00:55:35,325 --> 00:55:39,645
And just like what, three or four sessions
throughout December where they were open

1555
00:55:39,645 --> 00:55:41,895
and people could come in and, and apply.

1556
00:55:41,895 --> 00:55:42,314
So

1557
00:55:42,615 --> 00:55:43,515
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
see that's the way to do it, man.

1558
00:55:43,515 --> 00:55:45,734
If we want numbers, I mean,
it's, it's FaceTime really.

1559
00:55:45,740 --> 00:55:49,154
At the end of the day, it's exposure
because I mean, we, everybody in this

1560
00:55:49,154 --> 00:55:50,325
room has probably experienced it.

1561
00:55:50,325 --> 00:55:52,845
Nobody knows what a wildland
firefighter is, right?

1562
00:55:52,850 --> 00:55:53,115
Right.

1563
00:55:53,265 --> 00:55:55,754
You go in the grocery store,
you're, you know, getting your

1564
00:55:56,024 --> 00:55:57,254
lunch for the day or whatever.

1565
00:55:57,259 --> 00:55:59,174
You get your green pants on
your boots and your crew shirt.

1566
00:55:59,535 --> 00:55:59,895
Cool.

1567
00:56:00,024 --> 00:56:01,725
Someone asks you, oh, what do you do?

1568
00:56:01,904 --> 00:56:03,884
And you say, I'm a wildland firefighter.

1569
00:56:04,154 --> 00:56:04,966
What do they typically say?

1570
00:56:06,870 --> 00:56:07,259
Thank you.

1571
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,960
Truett Anderson: Well, smaller,
well smaller towns, it's gonna

1572
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:10,560
be a little bit town smalls.

1573
00:56:10,740 --> 00:56:11,279
Thank you.

1574
00:56:11,370 --> 00:56:13,770
Uh, like so in Vegas, people
don't understand like, yeah.

1575
00:56:13,830 --> 00:56:17,460
People look at me funny, like, cuz
they're like, you have a beard.

1576
00:56:17,759 --> 00:56:18,029
Yeah.

1577
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:19,020
You're a firefighter.

1578
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:19,319
Yeah.

1579
00:56:19,319 --> 00:56:21,060
Like I, I'm a cool firefighter.

1580
00:56:21,700 --> 00:56:23,020
I, I go do things.

1581
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:24,060
I'm a real boy.

1582
00:56:24,060 --> 00:56:24,420
Yeah.

1583
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:30,210
And, uh, and it's, that's where, I
mean, really, I'm just a supervisor

1584
00:56:30,210 --> 00:56:33,060
now, but I mean, back in the day,
like being on the trucks and that,

1585
00:56:33,060 --> 00:56:36,000
like, yeah, you do what Right.

1586
00:56:36,060 --> 00:56:39,029
Then it's a long process, like
trying to explain it, right?

1587
00:56:39,035 --> 00:56:39,180
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Yeah.

1588
00:56:39,185 --> 00:56:41,700
Do you automatically assume
that you're either, hey, a Cal

1589
00:56:41,730 --> 00:56:43,500
fire or b a smoke jumper, right?

1590
00:56:43,500 --> 00:56:45,120
Yeah, because that's like
the glory, that's everybody.

1591
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:45,870
Everybody knows them,

1592
00:56:45,870 --> 00:56:47,250
Truett Anderson: that you
jump outta a helicopter.

1593
00:56:47,250 --> 00:56:50,910
So it's like, yeah, like Howe Long,
I got two saws, like, we're going

1594
00:56:50,910 --> 00:56:53,250
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
recycle all that stuff in one hand.

1595
00:56:53,940 --> 00:56:55,589
There's some homework assignments
for the listeners there.

1596
00:56:58,230 --> 00:57:00,420
Truett Anderson: I've, I've learned
that a couple times the last few days.

1597
00:57:00,420 --> 00:57:04,350
Like I say like these shows or movies
and everyone around me like, what?

1598
00:57:04,350 --> 00:57:06,315
And I'm like, Go watch that now.

1599
00:57:06,345 --> 00:57:06,525
Yeah.

1600
00:57:06,525 --> 00:57:07,815
Like, you need to go watch that.

1601
00:57:07,815 --> 00:57:10,545
And now I'm turning into one
of the older guys in the room.

1602
00:57:10,845 --> 00:57:11,545
I'm like, Ugh.

1603
00:57:12,045 --> 00:57:12,435
What do you mean you

1604
00:57:12,435 --> 00:57:13,485
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
haven't seen Videocracy?

1605
00:57:13,965 --> 00:57:15,405
That's the best documentary ever.

1606
00:57:15,465 --> 00:57:15,555
Mm-hmm.

1607
00:57:16,485 --> 00:57:16,695
Truett Anderson: Yeah.

1608
00:57:16,700 --> 00:57:17,625
It's blowing me away.

1609
00:57:17,685 --> 00:57:20,175
It's, it's, it's uh, kind
of a shock these days.

1610
00:57:20,925 --> 00:57:21,165
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Yeah.

1611
00:57:21,615 --> 00:57:26,175
Well I think it's like, uh, the PR problem
that we kind of have, it's like we don't

1612
00:57:26,175 --> 00:57:27,945
do a good job of telling our story.

1613
00:57:28,035 --> 00:57:30,855
So, I mean, a lot of people just
don't know what the federal side

1614
00:57:30,855 --> 00:57:31,905
of wildland firefighting is.

1615
00:57:31,905 --> 00:57:34,305
They see smoke in the air somewhere
off in the hills that they probably

1616
00:57:34,305 --> 00:57:36,885
may or may not have visited
or hiked through or whatever.

1617
00:57:37,365 --> 00:57:40,275
And then green, yellow
buggies, they show up.

1618
00:57:40,845 --> 00:57:45,105
Then depending on the severity of the
fire, how long it goes for, they take off.

1619
00:57:45,135 --> 00:57:46,515
It's like they show up in
the dead at night and they

1620
00:57:46,515 --> 00:57:48,165
just leave and smoke's gone.

1621
00:57:48,225 --> 00:57:49,545
Oh, thank you.

1622
00:57:49,785 --> 00:57:51,855
You cal fires over there doing
like structure protection.

1623
00:57:51,855 --> 00:57:51,915
Yeah.

1624
00:57:51,915 --> 00:57:53,265
And they're very, very visible.

1625
00:57:53,385 --> 00:57:58,545
I mean, in that, in the retardant
planes, I mean, you can't miss that so

1626
00:57:58,725 --> 00:58:00,345
Truett Anderson: Well, and it's,
I think we're getting better

1627
00:58:00,345 --> 00:58:01,665
at trying to tell our story.

1628
00:58:01,725 --> 00:58:03,495
I just don't think we.

1629
00:58:04,275 --> 00:58:07,305
I mean, I, I'll be honest, I hate
when the camera comes out, like, yeah.

1630
00:58:07,305 --> 00:58:11,265
Whenever they're like on the fire
line because somebody is sitting

1631
00:58:11,265 --> 00:58:14,625
over there watching like, oh,
you don't have your gloves on?

1632
00:58:14,625 --> 00:58:16,845
Like, yeah, I don't have my
gloves on 'em on the radio.

1633
00:58:16,845 --> 00:58:17,655
The Blue Falcon shit.

1634
00:58:17,715 --> 00:58:17,985
Yeah.

1635
00:58:17,985 --> 00:58:19,185
And it's like, stop that.

1636
00:58:19,215 --> 00:58:22,875
Like stop, like, you know, we look at
these pictures, but if it's a good shot,

1637
00:58:22,875 --> 00:58:25,785
like, okay, like I'm glad you caught that.

1638
00:58:25,785 --> 00:58:27,375
Don't come hammering down on me.

1639
00:58:27,375 --> 00:58:27,435
Yeah.

1640
00:58:27,825 --> 00:58:28,665
That way I'll go, okay.

1641
00:58:28,665 --> 00:58:28,905
Yeah.

1642
00:58:28,935 --> 00:58:31,275
I'll remind them next time
like, Hey, we gotta do this.

1643
00:58:31,275 --> 00:58:34,395
Like, put your damn glove on when
you know, we sweat through our hands.

1644
00:58:34,395 --> 00:58:38,535
So you wear your gloves all day, you're
gonna go tee you really fast because Yeah,

1645
00:58:38,535 --> 00:58:39,645
you're gonna have holes in your hands.

1646
00:58:39,675 --> 00:58:40,095
Yeah.

1647
00:58:40,185 --> 00:58:41,805
Like you've gotta take your gloves off.

1648
00:58:42,195 --> 00:58:46,035
Like eventually you do if you,
we tell it and preach it, but

1649
00:58:46,035 --> 00:58:47,295
like, go mess with the pump.

1650
00:58:47,955 --> 00:58:49,545
Those gloves are not on for very long.

1651
00:58:49,545 --> 00:58:49,905
No.

1652
00:58:50,790 --> 00:58:52,650
I think we're getting
better at telling our story.

1653
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:58,080
The social media pages, like letting
people sit there and make their, put their

1654
00:58:58,080 --> 00:58:59,670
little pictures of what they've done.

1655
00:58:59,670 --> 00:59:00,540
They're all dirty.

1656
00:59:00,540 --> 00:59:02,220
Like the younger kids love doing that.

1657
00:59:02,220 --> 00:59:02,940
Like it's great.

1658
00:59:02,940 --> 00:59:07,200
I think it's starting to, but you
know, everyone, there's a ton place.

1659
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:07,470
Yeah.

1660
00:59:07,475 --> 00:59:07,589
Yeah.

1661
00:59:08,190 --> 00:59:10,650
And then everyone just always
thinks, oh, do you go to California?

1662
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:13,680
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
If I hear, if I had a nickel

1663
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,860
for every time I heard that,
I'd be a very, very rich man.

1664
00:59:16,890 --> 00:59:19,529
Oh yeah, Jesus man, do I?

1665
00:59:19,740 --> 00:59:20,370
But it's getting better.

1666
00:59:20,370 --> 00:59:22,410
I mean like the whole social
media thing, like doing it for the

1667
00:59:22,410 --> 00:59:23,940
Gram, like don't do stupid shit.

1668
00:59:23,944 --> 00:59:27,690
But it's also, at the same time,
it's important to share that story

1669
00:59:27,690 --> 00:59:28,950
with your friends, your family.

1670
00:59:29,310 --> 00:59:32,640
Sometimes some of that content goes
viral and people learn man, and

1671
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:37,005
like, yeah, if you don't have your
clothes on in a photo, Chances are

1672
00:59:37,005 --> 00:59:38,295
you didn't need your gloves on, man.

1673
00:59:38,295 --> 00:59:38,505
Yeah.

1674
00:59:38,565 --> 00:59:42,465
It's, it's, we make these,
these decisions about safety

1675
00:59:42,465 --> 00:59:43,875
and P P E and stuff like that.

1676
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:44,115
Right.

1677
00:59:44,115 --> 00:59:46,185
If you're well removed from the
fire and you don't need gloves,

1678
00:59:46,185 --> 00:59:47,475
then you don't fucking need gloves.

1679
00:59:47,715 --> 00:59:49,845
The FMO shouldn't be busting
your balls about that.

1680
00:59:49,875 --> 00:59:49,935
Yeah.

1681
00:59:49,935 --> 00:59:53,055
Because everybody out there knows
when the appropriate, well, for the

1682
00:59:53,055 --> 00:59:58,275
most part, not everybody, but for the
most part, you know, if the, if your

1683
00:59:58,275 --> 01:00:01,725
leadership is taking their gloves
off, the chances are you can afford

1684
01:00:01,725 --> 01:00:02,955
to take your goddamn gloves off, man.

1685
01:00:02,955 --> 01:00:03,135
Yeah.

1686
01:00:03,315 --> 01:00:07,845
So stop harping on people and just like
spread the positivity, tell the story.

1687
01:00:07,875 --> 01:00:09,855
It's important because
we do have a PR problem.

1688
01:00:10,005 --> 01:00:10,575
Austin Lee: That's, yeah.

1689
01:00:10,575 --> 01:00:13,425
I mean, when I was talking with the
kids, you know, one of the questions that

1690
01:00:13,425 --> 01:00:16,155
comes up is, sounds scary or is it scary?

1691
01:00:16,305 --> 01:00:16,755
It can be.

1692
01:00:16,815 --> 01:00:18,165
Well it, it can be at times.

1693
01:00:18,165 --> 01:00:18,705
Absolutely.

1694
01:00:18,705 --> 01:00:22,965
But you know, we give you the training
and everything you need to do it safely

1695
01:00:22,965 --> 01:00:25,875
and that's when you just trust in
that leadership, you know, above you.

1696
01:00:26,295 --> 01:00:29,415
Um, you know, all of us in this room
has probably seen a lot of stuff.

1697
01:00:29,565 --> 01:00:29,654
Mm-hmm.

1698
01:00:29,895 --> 01:00:34,215
You know, and, and we build that mental
slide of we saw it, we, we sifted out

1699
01:00:34,215 --> 01:00:37,005
what we liked, what we didn't, and
we stored in our long term memory.

1700
01:00:37,005 --> 01:00:39,075
So if we were ever faced with
that challenge again, we, we

1701
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:40,185
know what to do at that point.

1702
01:00:40,190 --> 01:00:40,375
Yeah.

1703
01:00:40,375 --> 01:00:41,295
You building those slides, right?

1704
01:00:41,295 --> 01:00:41,895
Yeah, exactly.

1705
01:00:41,895 --> 01:00:43,125
It was mental slideshow, you know,

1706
01:00:43,154 --> 01:00:43,615
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
so, yeah.

1707
01:00:43,915 --> 01:00:47,265
But there is something kind of attractive
about, like, one, the Dirtbag lifestyle

1708
01:00:47,270 --> 01:00:50,265
and it's kind of been like a recurring
theme with all these conversations

1709
01:00:50,265 --> 01:00:51,615
I've been having with folks this week.

1710
01:00:52,005 --> 01:00:55,545
And, uh, it's, it's enchanting
man, but it is very much a young

1711
01:00:55,545 --> 01:00:57,075
man and young woman's sport.

1712
01:00:57,255 --> 01:01:00,435
I mean, when you start getting into
like, the level of your careers, right.

1713
01:01:00,435 --> 01:01:02,745
It, it's got us different challenges, man.

1714
01:01:03,165 --> 01:01:06,884
I mean, you guys have, uh, guided
your careers to, you know, be

1715
01:01:06,884 --> 01:01:10,035
successful, especially with
dealing with like the issues that.

1716
01:01:10,500 --> 01:01:14,010
Everybody fucking is eating the same turd
sandwich when comes to PE classification.

1717
01:01:14,010 --> 01:01:17,070
But there is a lot of things on
the horizon to make that better.

1718
01:01:17,220 --> 01:01:20,760
And I wanna say, to shout out to Nevada
that they're being pretty progressive.

1719
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:26,160
I fucking hate using that word, because
depending on what flavor of politics, you,

1720
01:01:26,220 --> 01:01:30,620
you belong to that word, progressive can
have some serious negative connotation.

1721
01:01:30,750 --> 01:01:30,990
Right.

1722
01:01:31,500 --> 01:01:35,880
But I think that, uh, for the definition
itself, I think that Nevada's pretty

1723
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,270
good at taking their, taking care
of their people, getting 'em trained

1724
01:01:39,275 --> 01:01:43,290
up, getting 'em paid, getting 'em the
right grade for like engine captains.

1725
01:01:43,290 --> 01:01:45,390
I mean, what they're eights now.

1726
01:01:45,660 --> 01:01:45,930
Yep.

1727
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:46,440
Yeah.

1728
01:01:46,445 --> 01:01:46,580
Mm-hmm.

1729
01:01:47,100 --> 01:01:47,980
And that was what, that's recent.

1730
01:01:47,980 --> 01:01:49,830
That was what, four or five years ago?

1731
01:01:50,130 --> 01:01:50,490
Oh, right.

1732
01:01:50,490 --> 01:01:51,630
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1733
01:01:52,110 --> 01:01:54,900
And just pushing the boundaries,
man, and getting people like the

1734
01:01:54,900 --> 01:01:59,310
stuff that they need to do their
job successfully and also live like

1735
01:02:00,930 --> 01:02:02,760
Austin Lee: Well, and that's where
that retention part comes in.

1736
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:06,430
I mean, like, I think BLM Nevada's done
a really good job in terms of like,

1737
01:02:06,570 --> 01:02:13,560
uh, They have started like this health
and wellness, um, like week long, uh,

1738
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,950
class that they did one in Vegas and
they did one in Reno and like mm-hmm.

1739
01:02:17,220 --> 01:02:17,820
That was great.

1740
01:02:17,820 --> 01:02:21,270
I attended the one in Reno and, you
know, I mean, it was an opportunity to

1741
01:02:21,270 --> 01:02:27,340
learn, um, you know, like in a, a longer
period of time, like both like, you know,

1742
01:02:27,570 --> 01:02:31,320
from a mental and physical nutritional
wellness, you know, standpoint.

1743
01:02:31,350 --> 01:02:31,410
Yeah.

1744
01:02:31,410 --> 01:02:32,130
Whole body, right.

1745
01:02:32,190 --> 01:02:35,790
Holistic top down and, you know,
that's stuff then that we're able

1746
01:02:35,795 --> 01:02:38,850
to take back to the districts
and then, um, you know, hopefully

1747
01:02:39,300 --> 01:02:41,400
disseminate and, uh, and continue.

1748
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,820
But like, even, you know, this like
bringing everybody together in the

1749
01:02:44,825 --> 01:02:48,570
spring, like that goes a long way
throughout the whole season because,

1750
01:02:49,050 --> 01:02:52,650
you know, like when you run into
somebody inevitably in Winnemucca,

1751
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:54,810
like you've, you've at least met 'em.

1752
01:02:54,815 --> 01:02:55,020
Mm-hmm.

1753
01:02:55,100 --> 01:02:57,510
Or recognized 'em like, oh yeah,
I saw you at, you know, the spring

1754
01:02:57,510 --> 01:03:01,051
meetings and like, so, um, like you're
getting at it before, like just.

1755
01:03:01,785 --> 01:03:04,455
You know, having those opportunities
to interact pre-season, like

1756
01:03:04,460 --> 01:03:07,425
that's super unique to Nevada
at a statewide level, which is

1757
01:03:07,425 --> 01:03:07,725
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
cool.

1758
01:03:07,845 --> 01:03:11,715
Yeah, I've only experienced that kind
of, uh, pre-season meeting, so like

1759
01:03:11,985 --> 01:03:15,405
where it's kind of similar to this
and the Road group resist you so up in

1760
01:03:15,405 --> 01:03:17,745
region six, but that's the only other
place that I've ever seen it done.

1761
01:03:18,195 --> 01:03:20,355
And they'd bring outside, you
know, consultants and I guess

1762
01:03:20,355 --> 01:03:22,725
the academy as well when I was
going through the Jack Academy.

1763
01:03:23,205 --> 01:03:27,915
But, uh, yeah, I think the Nevada's good
cuz they're, they're not afraid of begging

1764
01:03:27,915 --> 01:03:29,325
for forgiveness as Brock would say.

1765
01:03:30,075 --> 01:03:30,645
It's, yeah.

1766
01:03:30,650 --> 01:03:33,465
They just do shit and it's,
it's, it's obviously working.

1767
01:03:33,495 --> 01:03:34,575
It's productive, right?

1768
01:03:35,235 --> 01:03:35,415
Truett Anderson: Yeah.

1769
01:03:35,415 --> 01:03:39,136
They've been, I mean, I've been coming
to this meeting for a very long time.

1770
01:03:39,405 --> 01:03:39,705
Yeah.

1771
01:03:39,795 --> 01:03:43,515
Um, and it's gotten way better.

1772
01:03:43,725 --> 01:03:46,425
We're bringing in people, but now
they're actually asking what we want.

1773
01:03:46,965 --> 01:03:51,090
And so now it's like, all right, finally
like, I want to see this, this, and this

1774
01:03:51,090 --> 01:03:54,450
at the meetings and, and like the mental
health has always been the biggest push.

1775
01:03:54,540 --> 01:03:54,750
Yeah.

1776
01:03:54,810 --> 01:03:57,150
And then like, okay, like
getting the minor red book,

1777
01:03:57,150 --> 01:03:58,140
we're forgetting some things.

1778
01:03:58,140 --> 01:04:00,480
So bring someone in, you don't
breathe through your nose.

1779
01:04:00,870 --> 01:04:03,120
Like, like it's awesome
that we're doing that.

1780
01:04:03,125 --> 01:04:06,340
Finally bringing in people that
are actually what we're asking for.

1781
01:04:06,340 --> 01:04:06,570
Yeah.

1782
01:04:06,570 --> 01:04:10,170
Like, and when Brock has done a great
job at and Pauling on them, like,

1783
01:04:10,260 --> 01:04:14,250
it's cool that we're finally, it's
a little bit, you know, like they're

1784
01:04:14,250 --> 01:04:17,460
not giving us everything we've always
asked for, but yeah, to give that

1785
01:04:17,465 --> 01:04:19,860
little bit, I mean, that's a reason
to come back to work every day.

1786
01:04:19,860 --> 01:04:22,890
Like get a little bit of
appreciation, so mm-hmm.

1787
01:04:23,670 --> 01:04:23,970
Austin Lee: Yeah.

1788
01:04:24,090 --> 01:04:24,360
Yeah.

1789
01:04:24,365 --> 01:04:25,650
And feel like somebody's listening.

1790
01:04:25,655 --> 01:04:25,790
Yeah.

1791
01:04:25,790 --> 01:04:29,550
You know, because in the government
it can very easily just, you know,

1792
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,520
especially five, 10 years in, you're
just like, you don't feel like

1793
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:34,050
anything you say goes anywhere.

1794
01:04:34,050 --> 01:04:34,110
So.

1795
01:04:34,340 --> 01:04:34,540
Yeah.

1796
01:04:34,545 --> 01:04:34,800
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Yeah.

1797
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,980
We get those people that are like
the traditional high level government

1798
01:04:37,980 --> 01:04:39,900
employee where they're fucking
retired in place and they don't

1799
01:04:39,900 --> 01:04:41,040
do shit because they don't care.

1800
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:42,720
They're two ways, two
years away from retirement.

1801
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:42,960
Right.

1802
01:04:43,770 --> 01:04:44,520
It's not like that here.

1803
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:45,720
No, no.

1804
01:04:46,710 --> 01:04:47,580
Truett Anderson: No, not anymore.

1805
01:04:47,790 --> 01:04:51,060
I mean, but year five as a firefighter,
that's about when you realize, you're

1806
01:04:51,060 --> 01:04:55,530
like, like, okay, I'm, I'm, you're,
it's like the honeymoon, like you're

1807
01:04:55,530 --> 01:04:57,210
just coming out of the honeymoon stage.

1808
01:04:57,510 --> 01:04:58,290
No, shit's getting real.

1809
01:04:58,380 --> 01:04:59,400
Yeah, shit's getting real.

1810
01:04:59,405 --> 01:05:02,580
I gotta, I got a really good qual,
you know, like, we're gonna do

1811
01:05:02,580 --> 01:05:05,700
something and then next thing you're
like, fuck man, what am I doing?

1812
01:05:06,630 --> 01:05:09,780
And then you're sitting there bitching
like, why am I still doing this job?

1813
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:10,290
The sport

1814
01:05:10,290 --> 01:05:10,980
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
bitching phase.

1815
01:05:10,985 --> 01:05:11,100
Truett Anderson: Yeah.

1816
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:11,340
Yeah.

1817
01:05:11,340 --> 01:05:14,070
And then next thing you
know, you're like, oh shit.

1818
01:05:14,070 --> 01:05:19,290
Like I've got like eight or nine
years till my 20 and I can retire.

1819
01:05:19,295 --> 01:05:20,760
Like, fuck.

1820
01:05:20,850 --> 01:05:22,771
Like I guess I'm stuck, man.

1821
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:23,551
I'm over the hill.

1822
01:05:23,556 --> 01:05:26,580
Like, I actually better
start changing some shit.

1823
01:05:26,580 --> 01:05:28,920
But like, that's the, that's
where I'm at right now.

1824
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:33,480
I'm on the downside of, you know,
get, get through a few more practices

1825
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,190
and, and we'll see what happens.

1826
01:05:35,220 --> 01:05:35,550
Yeah.

1827
01:05:36,150 --> 01:05:36,960
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
That's another thing too, man.

1828
01:05:36,965 --> 01:05:39,870
It's like this does have
a, a, a good feel to it.

1829
01:05:39,870 --> 01:05:43,830
And uh, and I know it sounds like I'm
riding for the brand for Nevada b l blm.

1830
01:05:43,830 --> 01:05:44,100
Right.

1831
01:05:44,100 --> 01:05:47,790
But that's like, Pretty much a majority
of my career, it is the majority

1832
01:05:47,790 --> 01:05:51,899
of my career, uh, exclusively, not
exclusively, but primarily in Nevada.

1833
01:05:51,899 --> 01:05:52,200
Right.

1834
01:05:52,500 --> 01:05:56,339
And I've seen the things that, uh, the
state has done with all of their programs.

1835
01:05:56,345 --> 01:05:56,609
Right.

1836
01:05:56,609 --> 01:05:57,240
Fire wide.

1837
01:05:57,810 --> 01:05:58,620
And it's great, man.

1838
01:05:58,620 --> 01:05:59,970
I keep coming back for a reason.

1839
01:06:00,060 --> 01:06:02,870
I mean, I went to region six,
fucked off at the academy.

1840
01:06:04,459 --> 01:06:04,950
Yeah, dude.

1841
01:06:05,310 --> 01:06:06,810
It's, it's, I keep
coming back for a reason.

1842
01:06:07,169 --> 01:06:07,589
So.

1843
01:06:07,919 --> 01:06:10,740
Truett Anderson: Well, and I think it's
funny too, is like in Nevada, like we

1844
01:06:10,740 --> 01:06:16,049
go somewhere, we all, you know, going
back east or, or up north, like you,

1845
01:06:16,290 --> 01:06:17,669
everyone asks like, where you from?

1846
01:06:17,674 --> 01:06:19,020
Like, oh, I'm from Nevada.

1847
01:06:19,140 --> 01:06:21,069
And they're like, oh, do you not Vegas.

1848
01:06:21,330 --> 01:06:21,549
Yes.

1849
01:06:21,555 --> 01:06:21,959
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Yeah.

1850
01:06:21,959 --> 01:06:25,439
I say, Vegas is nine fucking
hours away from Reno.

1851
01:06:25,444 --> 01:06:25,669
Okay.

1852
01:06:25,970 --> 01:06:26,850
Truett Anderson: Oh yeah, yeah.

1853
01:06:26,850 --> 01:06:28,649
That's always, oh, you live in Las Vegas?

1854
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:31,080
I'm like, yeah, but I really
like, I grew up in Rio Nevada.

1855
01:06:31,350 --> 01:06:31,529
Yeah.

1856
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:32,160
Oh, Reno.

1857
01:06:32,669 --> 01:06:33,000
No

1858
01:06:33,930 --> 01:06:34,200
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
you don't.

1859
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:38,310
Speaking of tying in on that point, do you
talk to people in, they're from Nevada.

1860
01:06:38,310 --> 01:06:39,509
It's like, oh yeah, I
drove through Nevada.

1861
01:06:39,515 --> 01:06:40,200
It's least, fuck.

1862
01:06:40,439 --> 01:06:42,495
I'm like, Get off the beaten path, man.

1863
01:06:42,495 --> 01:06:44,655
There's some beautiful country
like Wheeler Peak out there, man.

1864
01:06:44,655 --> 01:06:44,805
Yeah.

1865
01:06:44,810 --> 01:06:47,835
It's, it's gorgeous out there,
but it's all off the beaten path.

1866
01:06:48,255 --> 01:06:48,705
Truett Anderson: All of it.

1867
01:06:49,035 --> 01:06:49,305
Yeah.

1868
01:06:49,335 --> 01:06:50,575
You gotta stop being Lincoln.

1869
01:06:50,575 --> 01:06:50,815
That's

1870
01:06:50,815 --> 01:06:52,515
Elliot Krinka: not necessarily
a bad thing that people drive

1871
01:06:52,515 --> 01:06:54,105
down I 80 and don't stop.

1872
01:06:54,165 --> 01:06:54,495
Yeah.

1873
01:06:54,500 --> 01:06:55,065
They don't

1874
01:06:55,065 --> 01:06:55,725
Truett Anderson: wanna move in.

1875
01:06:55,725 --> 01:06:56,325
This is true.

1876
01:06:56,355 --> 01:06:56,655
Right.

1877
01:06:57,255 --> 01:06:58,545
They just keep going right there.

1878
01:06:58,545 --> 01:07:00,135
They can go to Idaho, they go to Utah.

1879
01:07:00,135 --> 01:07:00,465
Like, yeah.

1880
01:07:00,525 --> 01:07:02,085
Keep getting, don't come into our state.

1881
01:07:03,615 --> 01:07:04,665
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
You outta Sandy, Utah.

1882
01:07:04,675 --> 01:07:05,535
Not to see Sandy.

1883
01:07:05,535 --> 01:07:06,615
Utah is a beautiful place.

1884
01:07:06,615 --> 01:07:07,575
You should definitely move there.

1885
01:07:07,965 --> 01:07:08,895
Nevada's ugly.

1886
01:07:08,895 --> 01:07:09,495
It sucks.

1887
01:07:09,585 --> 01:07:10,185
It's ugly.

1888
01:07:10,185 --> 01:07:10,545
We've got

1889
01:07:10,545 --> 01:07:12,705
Truett Anderson: aliens
like we got nuclear waste.

1890
01:07:12,710 --> 01:07:13,065
Yeah.

1891
01:07:13,185 --> 01:07:14,835
Don't, don't, don't come down here.

1892
01:07:16,095 --> 01:07:19,785
But it, it is true though, like, man,
there is some cool shit in our state.

1893
01:07:19,875 --> 01:07:20,326
There is, man.

1894
01:07:20,331 --> 01:07:23,265
And people don't, people
don't need to know about it.

1895
01:07:23,475 --> 01:07:23,655
Yeah.

1896
01:07:23,925 --> 01:07:24,345
I'm not gonna,

1897
01:07:24,345 --> 01:07:25,965
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
I'm not gonna stay on I 80.

1898
01:07:26,255 --> 01:07:26,545
Yeah.

1899
01:07:26,735 --> 01:07:27,225
Stay on 80.

1900
01:07:27,525 --> 01:07:29,985
I mean, I kinda give away,
uh, the wheeler peak thing.

1901
01:07:30,435 --> 01:07:30,825
What is that?

1902
01:07:30,915 --> 01:07:33,015
This is tallest, uh,
peak in Nevada, right?

1903
01:07:33,045 --> 01:07:33,285
Yeah.

1904
01:07:33,290 --> 01:07:33,385
Yeah.

1905
01:07:34,245 --> 01:07:35,924
And, uh, everybody
knows about that though.

1906
01:07:35,924 --> 01:07:36,194
And you can

1907
01:07:36,194 --> 01:07:36,585
Truett Anderson: look it up.

1908
01:07:36,589 --> 01:07:38,145
Yeah, it's, it's a national park.

1909
01:07:38,145 --> 01:07:38,444
Like yeah.

1910
01:07:38,595 --> 01:07:40,335
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
I'm not gonna drop any of my like, hunting

1911
01:07:40,335 --> 01:07:43,665
spots or anything like that, but No,
but like, stay the hell outta my rivers.

1912
01:07:43,785 --> 01:07:44,654
You're overfishing 'em.

1913
01:07:45,315 --> 01:07:45,555
Truett Anderson: Yeah.

1914
01:07:46,785 --> 01:07:48,194
I still haven't seen a river in Nevada.

1915
01:07:49,634 --> 01:07:50,325
We have no water.

1916
01:07:50,865 --> 01:07:51,375
We've got no

1917
01:07:51,379 --> 01:07:51,674
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
water.

1918
01:07:51,765 --> 01:07:51,884
There's

1919
01:07:51,890 --> 01:07:52,336
Elliot Krinka: no water here.

1920
01:07:52,341 --> 01:07:52,595
Yeah.

1921
01:07:52,595 --> 01:07:52,915
That home

1922
01:07:53,185 --> 01:07:54,285
Truett Anderson: fits to sun 'em again.

1923
01:07:55,455 --> 01:07:56,115
Let's just keep it

1924
01:07:56,115 --> 01:07:56,234
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
short.

1925
01:07:56,234 --> 01:07:57,254
Classified shorter.

1926
01:07:57,254 --> 01:07:58,634
Class Five rabbits in the humbolt.

1927
01:08:00,495 --> 01:08:01,754
So let's talk about training, man.

1928
01:08:01,785 --> 01:08:06,404
Um, the training programs, I think with
the Nevada, with all the Nevada b LM

1929
01:08:06,404 --> 01:08:09,825
is pretty good, but engines I think
kind of stands out and shines as well.

1930
01:08:10,275 --> 01:08:13,065
I mean, you got the EOP Academy
and that's some pretty cool shit.

1931
01:08:13,065 --> 01:08:14,145
I mean, what is it now?

1932
01:08:14,145 --> 01:08:15,705
Because when I went through
it, it was about a week.

1933
01:08:15,710 --> 01:08:15,904
Yes.

1934
01:08:16,184 --> 01:08:16,577
It still a week.

1935
01:08:16,581 --> 01:08:16,705
Still a week.

1936
01:08:16,934 --> 01:08:17,325
Okay.

1937
01:08:17,325 --> 01:08:20,234
I didn't know if it changed or anything
like that, but is there six days?

1938
01:08:20,580 --> 01:08:21,939
Austin Lee: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1939
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:25,219
Classroom time, field portion,
driving trucks, doing cone courses,

1940
01:08:25,679 --> 01:08:27,149
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
and then it's a crash course in like

1941
01:08:27,599 --> 01:08:27,689
Austin Lee: evoc.

1942
01:08:27,689 --> 01:08:28,349
Man, it's cool.

1943
01:08:28,410 --> 01:08:28,620
Yeah.

1944
01:08:28,620 --> 01:08:30,809
It hats off to those guys, you
know, that, that coordinated it.

1945
01:08:30,809 --> 01:08:31,319
Like Braun.

1946
01:08:31,319 --> 01:08:32,859
I know he, I know he
took the chair from be.

1947
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:33,380
Mm-hmm.

1948
01:08:33,460 --> 01:08:36,300
And you know, he's coordinating
that I think right as it ends.

1949
01:08:36,300 --> 01:08:36,960
Wait, Jeremiah?

1950
01:08:36,965 --> 01:08:37,139
Yeah.

1951
01:08:37,349 --> 01:08:37,800
Jeremiah Aron.

1952
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:38,309
Oh, hell yeah.

1953
01:08:38,314 --> 01:08:39,000
How's that dude doing?

1954
01:08:39,090 --> 01:08:39,779
He's doing good, man.

1955
01:08:39,779 --> 01:08:39,929
Right?

1956
01:08:39,929 --> 01:08:40,170
Done.

1957
01:08:40,259 --> 01:08:40,529
Yeah.

1958
01:08:40,590 --> 01:08:41,609
Truett Anderson: Um, it's just sad.

1959
01:08:41,609 --> 01:08:44,340
We have a dozer guy this year
that's gonna be doing it.

1960
01:08:44,344 --> 01:08:44,460
Yeah.

1961
01:08:44,460 --> 01:08:45,420
He's our new job, so.

1962
01:08:45,420 --> 01:08:45,630
Yeah.

1963
01:08:45,660 --> 01:08:45,990
Austin Lee: Yeah.

1964
01:08:46,109 --> 01:08:50,429
But, uh, I think the coordination for
that starts right after it ends, really.

1965
01:08:50,429 --> 01:08:50,519
Mm-hmm.

1966
01:08:50,759 --> 01:08:54,929
I mean, there's a lot of plan and planning
going into it, and who wants to help teach

1967
01:08:54,929 --> 01:08:59,069
what, and, you know, how many members
are we gonna be expecting next year and

1968
01:08:59,069 --> 01:09:01,019
logistics and, and all that fun stuff.

1969
01:09:01,019 --> 01:09:03,420
So, I mean, hat's off to him for
taking on that and, you know,

1970
01:09:03,420 --> 01:09:05,189
and bile for, for running it.

1971
01:09:05,250 --> 01:09:05,740
The, yeah.

1972
01:09:06,170 --> 01:09:09,899
Like the decade he did it seems like,
you know, I mean, he taught my class

1973
01:09:09,899 --> 01:09:13,500
back in, uh, 15, 16, somewhere in there.

1974
01:09:13,505 --> 01:09:14,700
So, I mean, yeah.

1975
01:09:14,870 --> 01:09:15,219
Hat's

1976
01:09:15,420 --> 01:09:15,700
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
off to bile too.

1977
01:09:15,759 --> 01:09:17,939
I'm trying to remember when I went to EOP.

1978
01:09:19,500 --> 01:09:23,279
I think it was the year before Biddle,
I was under C Mask, so Chris Mason.

1979
01:09:23,279 --> 01:09:23,549
Oh, nice.

1980
01:09:23,549 --> 01:09:23,819
Yeah.

1981
01:09:23,825 --> 01:09:23,920
Yeah.

1982
01:09:23,924 --> 01:09:28,710
So I wanna say it was like,
shit 20 13, 14, I don't know.

1983
01:09:28,830 --> 01:09:29,370
I blacked out.

1984
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:31,529
Yeah, but it's cool man.

1985
01:09:31,529 --> 01:09:34,139
Cuz it's like a, it's like a
crash course in everything.

1986
01:09:34,139 --> 01:09:35,250
Engine operations, right?

1987
01:09:35,250 --> 01:09:40,080
I mean, do I like doing uh, volume
calcs and all that stuff, like

1988
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:41,460
flow charts and all that shit?

1989
01:09:41,460 --> 01:09:43,500
No, I don't think
anybody likes that stuff.

1990
01:09:43,500 --> 01:09:46,799
And I, I, I, if someone busted out
a slide rule on a fire, I'd probably

1991
01:09:46,799 --> 01:09:48,059
punch him in the fucking face.

1992
01:09:49,859 --> 01:09:50,429
But it's good.

1993
01:09:50,429 --> 01:09:52,859
It's useful maths in some context, right?

1994
01:09:53,639 --> 01:09:55,830
There's some things you can pick
up, some things you can remember.

1995
01:09:56,160 --> 01:10:00,089
Um, is it practical to, you know,
bust out a slide rule on a fire?

1996
01:10:00,150 --> 01:10:01,019
No, it's not.

1997
01:10:01,049 --> 01:10:04,200
But it might serve its purpose
for going somewhere else, right?

1998
01:10:04,860 --> 01:10:07,049
Maybe you end up at the equipment shop
and you have to do something, right.

1999
01:10:07,290 --> 01:10:08,190
Do some calculations.

2000
01:10:08,190 --> 01:10:08,610
I don't know.

2001
01:10:08,940 --> 01:10:11,519
I don't know where that serves
purpose enough about that shit.

2002
01:10:11,940 --> 01:10:13,969
But there's other things that
are of value in the EOP program.

2003
01:10:14,460 --> 01:10:19,230
Um, Man, just like day-to-day
operations and maneuvering, like

2004
01:10:19,230 --> 01:10:20,820
evasive maneuvers, stuff like that.

2005
01:10:20,820 --> 01:10:23,519
Backing and familiarizing
yourself with your vehicle.

2006
01:10:23,580 --> 01:10:24,179
Yeah, that's

2007
01:10:24,179 --> 01:10:24,929
Truett Anderson: the huge one.

2008
01:10:24,929 --> 01:10:29,040
Like, so I think these guys, like,
we bring in everyone from around the

2009
01:10:29,045 --> 01:10:32,370
state that's got a whole little niche
to how they're helping at that academy.

2010
01:10:32,460 --> 01:10:32,580
Mm-hmm.

2011
01:10:32,969 --> 01:10:37,050
And, uh, long one of the guys in
Vegas, man, this dude couldn't

2012
01:10:37,050 --> 01:10:38,490
find anything wrong with the truck.

2013
01:10:38,519 --> 01:10:40,920
Like, he was always walking around
and he's like, Hey, this is broken.

2014
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:41,940
And it's like, alright, fix it.

2015
01:10:41,940 --> 01:10:42,599
Like, fuck.

2016
01:10:44,190 --> 01:10:47,580
But like, he's telling the kids
like, to like really get engaged

2017
01:10:47,585 --> 01:10:50,429
and look at things and, and that's
what you need, man, like Yeah.

2018
01:10:50,610 --> 01:10:51,540
The attention to detail.

2019
01:10:51,570 --> 01:10:51,809
Yeah.

2020
01:10:51,870 --> 01:10:56,219
And when it take, they take an extra
five minutes to do a, the daily check.

2021
01:10:56,219 --> 01:10:59,370
Like, okay, but did you
find something wrong?

2022
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:00,929
Like, no, I just, I was really worried.

2023
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:01,740
I don't care.

2024
01:11:01,740 --> 01:11:02,490
Like if you were worried Yeah.

2025
01:11:02,519 --> 01:11:03,000
You were looking,

2026
01:11:03,300 --> 01:11:04,710
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
you're accounting for safety, right?

2027
01:11:04,715 --> 01:11:04,719
Truett Anderson: Yeah.

2028
01:11:04,719 --> 01:11:05,240
Yeah, yeah.

2029
01:11:05,490 --> 01:11:09,389
And that's, I think the coolest part
is like, these kids are getting, you

2030
01:11:09,389 --> 01:11:11,429
know, a little secret from everybody.

2031
01:11:11,429 --> 01:11:12,599
Like, Hey, always check this.

2032
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:13,920
Always look at this.

2033
01:11:14,595 --> 01:11:15,435
And so it helps out.

2034
01:11:15,555 --> 01:11:15,825
Yeah.

2035
01:11:16,275 --> 01:11:20,265
Elliot Krinka: Then you know the thought
of bringing everybody's engine with them

2036
01:11:20,715 --> 01:11:23,775
from throughout the state, you get look
at what's going on throughout the state.

2037
01:11:23,775 --> 01:11:23,776
Mm-hmm.

2038
01:11:23,845 --> 01:11:25,575
Not just looking at your
own engine all week.

2039
01:11:26,235 --> 01:11:27,885
You're looking at elites type six.

2040
01:11:27,885 --> 01:11:29,265
You swap as big too.

2041
01:11:29,265 --> 01:11:29,385
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Mm-hmm.

2042
01:11:29,685 --> 01:11:29,895
Yep.

2043
01:11:29,900 --> 01:11:31,805
You're jumping on and
operating other vehicles too.

2044
01:11:32,265 --> 01:11:33,075
Type threes, type

2045
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:36,465
Elliot Krinka: four s sixes,
you get a get the whole batch.

2046
01:11:36,465 --> 01:11:39,645
So it's a one of the top
things I think about that.

2047
01:11:39,675 --> 01:11:40,515
EOP Academy.

2048
01:11:41,655 --> 01:11:42,885
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
One thing I think that's cool about the,

2049
01:11:42,885 --> 01:11:47,025
uh, standardization fee, like across
the entire state, especially with any

2050
01:11:47,030 --> 01:11:48,765
ground vehicle, crew, vehicle or engine.

2051
01:11:48,795 --> 01:11:49,125
Right.

2052
01:11:49,125 --> 01:11:51,795
Any apparatus that we have out
there is the, uh, standardization

2053
01:11:51,795 --> 01:11:52,785
of medical equipment.

2054
01:11:53,085 --> 01:11:53,295
Oh yeah.

2055
01:11:53,625 --> 01:11:55,545
That is fucking cool, man.

2056
01:11:55,575 --> 01:11:58,215
That in the expanded it's scope
of practice that we have for our

2057
01:11:58,215 --> 01:12:00,825
medical direction, but that was
something that was pretty cool too.

2058
01:12:00,825 --> 01:12:02,145
But everybody knows where it's at.

2059
01:12:02,415 --> 01:12:02,565
Yeah.

2060
01:12:02,570 --> 01:12:03,015
Everybody.

2061
01:12:03,795 --> 01:12:04,845
Truett Anderson: Yeah,
look for the sticker.

2062
01:12:04,935 --> 01:12:05,385
It's right there.

2063
01:12:05,385 --> 01:12:06,285
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Yeah, it's right there.

2064
01:12:06,285 --> 01:12:07,875
You know what's gonna be in there too?

2065
01:12:08,025 --> 01:12:10,185
Truett Anderson: So yeah, every bag's
the same, like, all right, cool.

2066
01:12:10,545 --> 01:12:11,805
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Yeah, if there's an I w I though

2067
01:12:11,805 --> 01:12:12,975
that's, that's time saving.

2068
01:12:12,975 --> 01:12:14,475
That's potentially lifesaving.

2069
01:12:14,505 --> 01:12:14,715
Yeah.

2070
01:12:14,805 --> 01:12:17,475
Just having like that knowledge
that everything's standardized.

2071
01:12:17,985 --> 01:12:19,725
So, but yeah, man.

2072
01:12:19,785 --> 01:12:24,285
Uh, I don't know about you guys,
but I used to drive like an as still

2073
01:12:24,285 --> 01:12:26,655
kind of do, but I have kids now, so
I don't drive like an ass anymore.

2074
01:12:26,685 --> 01:12:27,675
They're usually in the backseat.

2075
01:12:27,675 --> 01:12:32,715
But I will say that the EOP Academy
translated into like, just everyday stuff.

2076
01:12:32,715 --> 01:12:37,425
Like it's probably made me a better
driver overall and I think I wanna just

2077
01:12:37,425 --> 01:12:38,925
like attribute that to the EOP program.

2078
01:12:39,345 --> 01:12:39,805
What about you guys?

2079
01:12:40,935 --> 01:12:42,045
Truett Anderson: I'm a shitty driver.

2080
01:12:42,045 --> 01:12:42,945
I drive fast.

2081
01:12:43,245 --> 01:12:46,695
Uh, I don't drive fast in my truck cuz
it, it won't go, it's an old truck,

2082
01:12:47,115 --> 01:12:49,185
but, uh, I drive like an asshole.

2083
01:12:49,215 --> 01:12:51,645
But I mean, it does, it does help you out.

2084
01:12:51,915 --> 01:12:53,415
Especially the situational awareness part.

2085
01:12:53,415 --> 01:12:53,805
Yeah.

2086
01:12:53,810 --> 01:12:54,005
Mm-hmm.

2087
01:12:54,105 --> 01:12:57,795
Like, you know, like I don't hit
as many tree branches anymore,

2088
01:12:58,065 --> 01:12:59,325
but that was trial and error.

2089
01:12:59,555 --> 01:13:00,685
Like some

2090
01:13:00,975 --> 01:13:01,245
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
things will

2091
01:13:01,245 --> 01:13:01,755
Truett Anderson: learned the hard way.

2092
01:13:01,785 --> 01:13:01,965
Yeah.

2093
01:13:01,965 --> 01:13:05,054
But that, I mean, That place
has really taught you, like,

2094
01:13:05,385 --> 01:13:06,224
I think it's gotten better.

2095
01:13:06,224 --> 01:13:08,415
I've, I haven't gone
back since I went to eop.

2096
01:13:08,474 --> 01:13:09,644
I haven't gone back and helped.

2097
01:13:10,245 --> 01:13:11,804
I just wasn't like, yeah.

2098
01:13:11,804 --> 01:13:12,764
I just wasn't into it.

2099
01:13:12,764 --> 01:13:16,155
But everyone else, like, they keep telling
me new things that happen every year.

2100
01:13:16,155 --> 01:13:17,205
I'm like, all right, this is cool.

2101
01:13:17,205 --> 01:13:18,465
Like, you guys are getting a lot

2102
01:13:18,465 --> 01:13:18,764
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
better.

2103
01:13:18,915 --> 01:13:19,215
Yeah.

2104
01:13:20,235 --> 01:13:23,655
So do the, uh, cadre of eop, do they
still fuck with the students when they

2105
01:13:23,655 --> 01:13:25,035
go out on their field days, their op day?

2106
01:13:25,455 --> 01:13:27,075
Austin Lee: I, I wanna say they do.

2107
01:13:27,075 --> 01:13:29,085
They go out and, you
know, they'll crack open a

2108
01:13:29,085 --> 01:13:30,105
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
valve or something like that.

2109
01:13:30,105 --> 01:13:30,264
Yeah.

2110
01:13:30,405 --> 01:13:30,434
Or

2111
01:13:30,434 --> 01:13:33,345
Austin Lee: do that, or, you know, un
unlatch a battery box strap or something.

2112
01:13:33,349 --> 01:13:33,644
Something just

2113
01:13:33,795 --> 01:13:34,815
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
fucking rock inside the

2114
01:13:34,815 --> 01:13:35,684
Austin Lee: throttle of your pump.

2115
01:13:35,775 --> 01:13:35,985
Yeah.

2116
01:13:35,990 --> 01:13:37,965
Just to see if they find
it, you know what I mean?

2117
01:13:37,970 --> 01:13:41,835
And it's great, you know, practice like
it's live, you know, and, you know,

2118
01:13:41,865 --> 01:13:45,885
for taking away, you know, in the life
perspective, I think anything eop, any

2119
01:13:45,885 --> 01:13:50,295
trainings we do it, it's, you could take
something from it and, and make it part

2120
01:13:50,300 --> 01:13:54,165
of your life, you know, and how you, how
you take it, you know, and incorporate it

2121
01:13:54,170 --> 01:13:55,815
in your own life, personal life, whatever.

2122
01:13:55,905 --> 01:13:56,085
Yeah.

2123
01:13:56,085 --> 01:13:57,165
There's always key takeaways.

2124
01:13:57,165 --> 01:13:59,425
Like our leadership classes, I
think they're great, you know,

2125
01:13:59,445 --> 01:14:01,455
all that fun stuff, but, Yeah.

2126
01:14:01,455 --> 01:14:04,785
I think, uh, for takeaways is
every class we offer really is

2127
01:14:05,085 --> 01:14:08,054
is one of those courses where you
could take something and implement

2128
01:14:08,054 --> 01:14:08,144
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
it.

2129
01:14:08,684 --> 01:14:09,045
Oh yeah.

2130
01:14:09,554 --> 01:14:10,695
That it implements itself.

2131
01:14:10,700 --> 01:14:14,054
Like you can take a crew boss class and
still get something for your engines.

2132
01:14:14,085 --> 01:14:14,385
Right.

2133
01:14:14,715 --> 01:14:18,224
You can take a, a hecken class and
obviously we talked about the hover field.

2134
01:14:18,224 --> 01:14:19,295
That's, that's a huge benefit, right?

2135
01:14:19,295 --> 01:14:21,585
Knowing you get some
familiarity with ships.

2136
01:14:22,035 --> 01:14:25,365
Uh, side note on the, uh, EOP Academy,
shameless admission of guilt here.

2137
01:14:26,715 --> 01:14:30,934
When we went to do our field op
day, well, it was either CMAs or

2138
01:14:31,105 --> 01:14:34,965
Scojo or one of the guys over there,
they decided to crack open the, uh,

2139
01:14:35,025 --> 01:14:36,495
like full board, not even crack it.

2140
01:14:36,495 --> 01:14:38,934
They just fucking opened up my
protection line and it had those bins.

2141
01:14:39,235 --> 01:14:39,455
Oh.

2142
01:14:40,035 --> 01:14:40,934
I had a P T O pump.

2143
01:14:40,934 --> 01:14:44,625
So me explosion being eager to
get after it and go after the

2144
01:14:44,625 --> 01:14:46,545
fire, the, the flagging fire.

2145
01:14:46,635 --> 01:14:46,965
Right.

2146
01:14:47,715 --> 01:14:50,115
Uh, fired up the pt o pumping booms.

2147
01:14:50,115 --> 01:14:53,415
This is fucking, just goes
popping out of the box, dude.

2148
01:14:54,525 --> 01:14:55,815
I, that's was a lesson learned though.

2149
01:14:55,815 --> 01:14:56,474
It was, it is.

2150
01:14:56,480 --> 01:14:56,535
Yeah.

2151
01:14:56,635 --> 01:14:56,855
So

2152
01:14:56,894 --> 01:15:00,335
Truett Anderson: I, I buddy
do that to all my like people.

2153
01:15:01,379 --> 01:15:03,059
I'll be like, Hey, let's
go down to the gas station.

2154
01:15:03,059 --> 01:15:03,839
We're gonna go get a drink.

2155
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:06,480
So the kids are excited,
they're in jumping in the truck.

2156
01:15:06,929 --> 01:15:09,000
And then I look over at
whoever my operator was.

2157
01:15:09,004 --> 01:15:09,719
I'm like, Hey man.

2158
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:13,320
And they'll boom and they're turning
the pump on and then everyone jumps

2159
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:16,620
out and I'm yelling like, it's
the panic mode, like, we gotta

2160
01:15:16,625 --> 01:15:19,230
get, we're gonna gotta flank this.

2161
01:15:19,230 --> 01:15:21,900
Like the kids are freaking out
trying to grab hoses, protect you,

2162
01:15:21,900 --> 01:15:23,009
just throw 'em right into the shit.

2163
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:23,250
Yeah.

2164
01:15:23,250 --> 01:15:24,330
And then training.

2165
01:15:24,480 --> 01:15:26,519
Crank the, crank the pump up.

2166
01:15:26,790 --> 01:15:29,190
And then as soon as they grab, I'm
like, we got protection, we gotta burn.

2167
01:15:29,190 --> 01:15:32,370
Like I'll hit that thing and
just watch people just launch.

2168
01:15:32,375 --> 01:15:35,519
And I'm like, man, I'm,
it's be like, it sucks.

2169
01:15:35,519 --> 01:15:38,360
Like, but it's good training because
you never know when it's gonna happen.

2170
01:15:38,389 --> 01:15:39,360
Like true.

2171
01:15:40,110 --> 01:15:43,980
I just make it more lifelike because
I don't yell at the dudes that often.

2172
01:15:43,980 --> 01:15:45,000
Like, don't you speak
with a purpose thing?

2173
01:15:45,299 --> 01:15:45,540
Right.

2174
01:15:45,544 --> 01:15:45,599
Yeah.

2175
01:15:45,839 --> 01:15:48,360
But like those guys when
I'm like, where the fuck up?

2176
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:49,290
Like, we gotta move.

2177
01:15:49,294 --> 01:15:51,990
Like we're getting the fires coming and.

2178
01:15:52,535 --> 01:15:56,160
Really just trying to sell, like they
know nothing's going on, but like, well

2179
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:57,000
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
it's the intensity, right?

2180
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:57,059
Yeah.

2181
01:15:57,059 --> 01:15:59,940
You're trying to mimic that and
there's no replication for some a

2182
01:15:59,940 --> 01:16:01,800
situation that you would be in, right?

2183
01:16:01,805 --> 01:16:04,800
Like there's no replicate for that
except for when you're in it, right?

2184
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:05,010
Yeah.

2185
01:16:05,220 --> 01:16:09,570
But if you can just turn up the stress,
turn up the, the volume, turn up all the,

2186
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:11,090
I guess the heat of the moment, right?

2187
01:16:11,309 --> 01:16:11,400
Mm-hmm.

2188
01:16:12,030 --> 01:16:13,050
You get a lot of out

2189
01:16:13,050 --> 01:16:13,290
Truett Anderson: of it.

2190
01:16:13,530 --> 01:16:13,890
Yeah.

2191
01:16:13,980 --> 01:16:16,950
Because now like those man
those kids, they figured out

2192
01:16:16,950 --> 01:16:18,240
like, you gotta open that box.

2193
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,450
You can't just turn the, can't
go up there and go like that.

2194
01:16:21,450 --> 01:16:22,570
Cause they go boom, never.

2195
01:16:22,570 --> 01:16:23,850
And then never You're getting that fucker

2196
01:16:23,850 --> 01:16:24,059
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
out.

2197
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:24,330
Yeah.

2198
01:16:24,330 --> 01:16:25,650
Or it's gonna blow out the side of it.

2199
01:16:25,655 --> 01:16:26,040
Like I, yeah.

2200
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:26,530
Yeah.

2201
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:26,970
Truett Anderson: Oops.

2202
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:27,330
Yeah.

2203
01:16:27,480 --> 01:16:28,500
Which is awesome to see.

2204
01:16:29,010 --> 01:16:31,620
But yeah, like you have to train
those cuz you never know, you're not

2205
01:16:31,620 --> 01:16:32,670
always gonna be with them either.

2206
01:16:32,790 --> 01:16:32,880
No.

2207
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:36,450
That's like, you can be walking away
from the truck and be out like scouting

2208
01:16:36,450 --> 01:16:39,809
shit and next thing you know, like
they're having a moment down there

2209
01:16:39,809 --> 01:16:45,059
like shit, hitting the fan and, and
you know, luckily in this day, like

2210
01:16:45,059 --> 01:16:48,180
we've trained our dudes well enough
that hopefully we've trained 'em well

2211
01:16:48,180 --> 01:16:51,510
enough, you know, that they're gonna
be able to jump out and do their thing.

2212
01:16:52,065 --> 01:16:55,785
That's the one nice thing with eop,
like you guys go over it like crazy,

2213
01:16:55,785 --> 01:16:55,965
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
so.

2214
01:16:55,965 --> 01:16:56,175
Mm-hmm.

2215
01:16:57,075 --> 01:17:00,165
Well, that's another thing too
about uh, eop I think people see

2216
01:17:00,165 --> 01:17:02,685
that qual on people's red cards
and they kind of overlook it.

2217
01:17:02,685 --> 01:17:03,585
Especially like the forest

2218
01:17:03,585 --> 01:17:04,185
Truett Anderson: service, right?

2219
01:17:04,185 --> 01:17:04,245
Oh yeah.

2220
01:17:04,335 --> 01:17:04,995
Cause they don't have it.

2221
01:17:05,085 --> 01:17:05,835
They don't have it, right?

2222
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:06,345
Yeah, yeah.

2223
01:17:06,615 --> 01:17:07,275
It's not a thing with

2224
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:07,485
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
them.

2225
01:17:07,575 --> 01:17:10,815
The expectation though, I think there's
a lot of value for the bureau land

2226
01:17:10,820 --> 01:17:15,645
management, the EOP program, because
if you look at that qual and then your

2227
01:17:15,645 --> 01:17:19,935
captain and your F M O and everybody
around you, the expectation of having

2228
01:17:19,935 --> 01:17:23,565
that qual and being the EOP is that
you are effectively the assistant.

2229
01:17:24,045 --> 01:17:27,105
I mean, you are responsible and
you're, say you had to go tie in

2230
01:17:27,110 --> 01:17:30,975
with division or go like scout
or whatever, the captain, right?

2231
01:17:31,335 --> 01:17:35,295
You were very much in charge of whoever
else is on the, on the, on the truck.

2232
01:17:35,415 --> 01:17:35,715
Right.

2233
01:17:36,135 --> 01:17:40,785
That's your sa their safety is in
your hands and your own, so it's

2234
01:17:40,785 --> 01:17:41,265
Austin Lee: overlooked.

2235
01:17:41,355 --> 01:17:45,015
A competent, e competent EOP should
be able to manage the truck, right?

2236
01:17:45,195 --> 01:17:45,345
Yep.

2237
01:17:45,825 --> 01:17:46,955
The way I run my truck is my.

2238
01:17:48,059 --> 01:17:51,540
You know, assistant engine captain
or EOP is like, that's his truck.

2239
01:17:51,750 --> 01:17:54,420
Like, if he needs me for
something, I'm there.

2240
01:17:54,420 --> 01:17:57,929
But like, I want complete ownership
of that equipment for him.

2241
01:17:58,500 --> 01:17:58,710
That's

2242
01:17:58,710 --> 01:17:59,849
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
how uh, Bronson ran it too.

2243
01:17:59,849 --> 01:17:59,969
Yeah.

2244
01:17:59,969 --> 01:18:01,110
And it was my baby.

2245
01:18:01,110 --> 01:18:01,440
Yeah.

2246
01:18:01,440 --> 01:18:02,639
It's, yeah.

2247
01:18:04,230 --> 01:18:04,469
Truett Anderson: Yeah.

2248
01:18:04,469 --> 01:18:05,730
That's, that's how I did it.

2249
01:18:05,730 --> 01:18:08,460
Like, I would be like,
Hey man, here you go.

2250
01:18:09,299 --> 01:18:12,059
Uh, and you asked this, get
your boys do your thing.

2251
01:18:12,599 --> 01:18:13,980
I'll go start the paperwork.

2252
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:14,309
Yeah.

2253
01:18:14,339 --> 01:18:18,480
And then, then like, I expect them
to, to show me where everything's at.

2254
01:18:18,480 --> 01:18:19,469
Cause I know they moved it.

2255
01:18:19,710 --> 01:18:19,889
Yeah.

2256
01:18:20,139 --> 01:18:22,200
Like, where's my coffee?

2257
01:18:22,650 --> 01:18:24,540
You know, quit moving my shit.

2258
01:18:24,990 --> 01:18:25,940
Like, where's my granola bars?

2259
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:29,370
But you know, like it's, it's
funny is like I make the dudes

2260
01:18:29,370 --> 01:18:33,690
go and then they have to have the
seasonals sit there and show me where

2261
01:18:33,690 --> 01:18:35,250
everything is and know the n U us.

2262
01:18:35,254 --> 01:18:37,530
Like where is everything on this truck?

2263
01:18:37,530 --> 01:18:37,980
Mm-hmm.

2264
01:18:38,309 --> 01:18:38,969
It's engrave.

2265
01:18:38,969 --> 01:18:39,299
But yeah.

2266
01:18:39,299 --> 01:18:42,299
Man, I think we're just
a guy on the truck.

2267
01:18:42,304 --> 01:18:42,509
Yeah.

2268
01:18:43,395 --> 01:18:43,725
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Yeah.

2269
01:18:44,085 --> 01:18:46,485
Well it's funny how you like move
up in your career and like the less

2270
01:18:46,485 --> 01:18:51,105
firefighting you actually do, it's like
the more you move up, the less ops you do.

2271
01:18:51,105 --> 01:18:53,325
You're just like basically
a paper bitch after a while.

2272
01:18:53,355 --> 01:18:53,745
So

2273
01:18:53,895 --> 01:18:55,395
Austin Lee: yeah, it
sucks, but it's truth.

2274
01:18:55,395 --> 01:18:57,885
I got, I got lucky, I got a class
a driver on my truck this year.

2275
01:18:57,885 --> 01:19:00,885
I've been driving and acting as
Captain Neop or whatever for the

2276
01:19:00,890 --> 01:19:01,816
last like two or three years.

2277
01:19:01,821 --> 01:19:02,175
Mm-hmm.

2278
01:19:02,275 --> 01:19:06,225
So I finally got a, a decent, you know,
EOP trainee, he's got a class A cdl.

2279
01:19:06,225 --> 01:19:06,675
Perfect.

2280
01:19:06,675 --> 01:19:09,945
I get to be on the ground with my dude
and go on mobile attack, you know, like I

2281
01:19:09,950 --> 01:19:11,595
get to you get to do the fine shit again.

2282
01:19:11,595 --> 01:19:12,525
Get to do the fun stuff again.

2283
01:19:12,530 --> 01:19:13,305
Yeah, exactly.

2284
01:19:13,305 --> 01:19:15,255
You know, so looking
forward to it for sure.

2285
01:19:15,615 --> 01:19:15,975
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Oh yeah.

2286
01:19:16,815 --> 01:19:19,815
But yeah man, the engine program
is, it's pretty bitching for Nevada.

2287
01:19:20,175 --> 01:19:24,705
I've had great experiences the entire time
I've been, you know, with Nevada, I mean

2288
01:19:24,705 --> 01:19:28,035
just in general, like it doesn't matter if
it's hell attack or detailing with a crew

2289
01:19:28,035 --> 01:19:30,945
or on engines or detailing with W n A.

2290
01:19:31,485 --> 01:19:32,235
It's fun man.

2291
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:35,455
And I think there's a lot of
opportunity on the engines to.

2292
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:39,945
Explore different paths too, because
sometimes you'll have a slow season,

2293
01:19:39,945 --> 01:19:43,965
so maybe your second year or maybe
shit, maybe even your first year.

2294
01:19:43,965 --> 01:19:47,955
Sometimes you get to go detail with
like a hali tech crew or go plug

2295
01:19:47,955 --> 01:19:51,375
in with w n a and just like crew
up and or do a task force role.

2296
01:19:51,675 --> 01:19:51,765
Mm-hmm.

2297
01:19:52,005 --> 01:19:52,905
Truett Anderson: That shit's fun, man.

2298
01:19:53,085 --> 01:19:54,375
It's gotten a lot better too.

2299
01:19:54,380 --> 01:19:58,575
Like, so like, yeah, those
younger kids and building

2300
01:19:58,575 --> 01:20:00,195
these crews, like the ad crews.

2301
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:00,535
Mm-hmm.

2302
01:20:00,825 --> 01:20:04,365
You know, in Vegas we have s and
d and then Reno, it's cr regulars

2303
01:20:04,785 --> 01:20:09,165
and now like to get more exposure,
like we go either or like mm-hmm.

2304
01:20:09,525 --> 01:20:12,465
Which is awesome, you know,
and e n a, like they need help.

2305
01:20:12,495 --> 01:20:13,126
We send guys up.

2306
01:20:13,131 --> 01:20:19,005
Like it's, it's getting dudes out and it's
like, my biggest thing is like, okay, I, I

2307
01:20:19,005 --> 01:20:20,625
want you to be a good dude on the engine.

2308
01:20:20,625 --> 01:20:23,745
I don't want you to leave my program,
but I want you to go fight fire

2309
01:20:23,745 --> 01:20:27,315
and actually learn like, yeah, you
can't just stay on this one thing.

2310
01:20:27,315 --> 01:20:29,595
Like you need those exposure.

2311
01:20:29,595 --> 01:20:31,636
You need to go work over here,
you need to like do that.

2312
01:20:31,641 --> 01:20:34,425
But I don't want you to leave, but
I'm gonna just, Detail you out.

2313
01:20:34,425 --> 01:20:37,605
Like, yeah, if the person falls in
love and wants to leave, like, cool.

2314
01:20:37,605 --> 01:20:38,054
Like Yeah.

2315
01:20:38,505 --> 01:20:39,224
If you love it, respect.

2316
01:20:39,465 --> 01:20:39,945
Let him go, man.

2317
01:20:39,945 --> 01:20:40,065
Yeah.

2318
01:20:40,070 --> 01:20:40,514
You let him go.

2319
01:20:41,415 --> 01:20:43,065
And I mean, that's, and Elco is

2320
01:20:43,065 --> 01:20:43,875
Elliot Krinka: the place to be.

2321
01:20:44,085 --> 01:20:44,355
Yeah.

2322
01:20:44,355 --> 01:20:44,835
For that.

2323
01:20:44,925 --> 01:20:49,425
You know, we got the dozers, we got
the hand crew, we got the helicopters.

2324
01:20:49,425 --> 01:20:49,575
We

2325
01:20:49,575 --> 01:20:50,384
Truett Anderson: got the engines.

2326
01:20:50,384 --> 01:20:51,315
Yeah, you got it all.

2327
01:20:51,644 --> 01:20:53,144
Tell me another district that has that.

2328
01:20:53,865 --> 01:20:54,105
Yep.

2329
01:20:54,705 --> 01:20:57,764
I can't You've got it all.

2330
01:20:58,815 --> 01:20:59,505
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Come Doka.

2331
01:21:00,925 --> 01:21:01,394
All right.

2332
01:21:01,394 --> 01:21:02,505
Were we doing a competition here?

2333
01:21:02,509 --> 01:21:03,795
It's like, who's got the best district?

2334
01:21:03,795 --> 01:21:04,215
Well, no.

2335
01:21:04,219 --> 01:21:04,695
So it's funny,

2336
01:21:05,085 --> 01:21:09,735
Truett Anderson: uh, I think, I think,
you know, like we've said earlier,

2337
01:21:09,735 --> 01:21:12,195
like we're hurting for people, man.

2338
01:21:12,195 --> 01:21:15,495
Like it sucked, but, uh, I am not hurting.

2339
01:21:15,644 --> 01:21:16,505
Uh, yeah, I see.

2340
01:21:16,605 --> 01:21:18,585
I have every captain spot.

2341
01:21:18,855 --> 01:21:20,894
Phil, I have backup.

2342
01:21:21,465 --> 01:21:22,335
Um, stop.

2343
01:21:22,514 --> 01:21:25,065
But at the beginning of the year,
this is painful for you, isn't it?

2344
01:21:25,155 --> 01:21:25,394
Yeah.

2345
01:21:26,085 --> 01:21:28,394
Well, last night he was trying to, he was
talking to somebody like, Hey, come up.

2346
01:21:28,394 --> 01:21:29,325
He's trying to poach your people.

2347
01:21:29,325 --> 01:21:33,840
No, no, it wasn't my people, but
I mean, I mean, if they wanted to

2348
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:35,130
go, I was like, yeah, go for it.

2349
01:21:35,250 --> 01:21:35,550
Austin Lee: Yeah.

2350
01:21:35,940 --> 01:21:38,099
But I mean that's, that's
the great thing about Nevada.

2351
01:21:38,099 --> 01:21:44,070
Like I came off of a, a hand crew, uh,
after the season in 16 and I got hired as

2352
01:21:44,070 --> 01:21:47,010
a crew seasonal in Elco as an operator.

2353
01:21:47,015 --> 01:21:48,030
I had my yop already.

2354
01:21:48,030 --> 01:21:51,880
But, um, you know, fortunately we had
a, a good season in 17, but you know,

2355
01:21:52,260 --> 01:21:54,570
like then a captain opened up in 18.

2356
01:21:54,570 --> 01:21:59,190
So I went from a GS five seasonal
in 2016 to a engine captain,

2357
01:21:59,190 --> 01:22:00,360
you know, in two seasons.

2358
01:22:00,390 --> 01:22:01,081
Yeah, that's pretty good.

2359
01:22:01,650 --> 01:22:05,640
I mean, right place, right time, you
know, and um, but I mean, you know, like

2360
01:22:05,670 --> 01:22:07,040
there's few other places especially.

2361
01:22:08,565 --> 01:22:11,775
At that point, like I feel like I
would've been able to make that big of

2362
01:22:11,775 --> 01:22:14,594
a leap and, and, you know, feel like,
all right, I made the right decision.

2363
01:22:14,594 --> 01:22:15,915
I'm, I'm making moves forward.

2364
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:16,505
So Yeah.

2365
01:22:16,724 --> 01:22:16,934
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Yeah.

2366
01:22:17,025 --> 01:22:18,495
Made the right decision to come to oco.

2367
01:22:18,735 --> 01:22:18,884
Yeah.

2368
01:22:20,655 --> 01:22:22,035
Well there's nothing
truth behind that though.

2369
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,915
It's like people don't wanna
admit the fact that, that they

2370
01:22:24,974 --> 01:22:26,474
have to move around to move up.

2371
01:22:26,480 --> 01:22:26,625
Right.

2372
01:22:26,964 --> 01:22:30,075
You have to, and that's one thing
that's good about the engines.

2373
01:22:30,075 --> 01:22:33,855
It gives you a, a, a, a good baseline
of diversity and experience cuz

2374
01:22:33,860 --> 01:22:34,875
you get to go do these things.

2375
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:38,684
You get to go ic, single trees, you get
a, probably a good chance to punch off

2376
01:22:38,684 --> 01:22:42,644
your IC five pretty quickly, you know,
just because the lightning storms and

2377
01:22:42,650 --> 01:22:45,255
stuff that comes through here and get
a lot of single trees and you're hiking

2378
01:22:45,260 --> 01:22:48,344
into that thing and you're putting out,
calling it in, getting those reps in.

2379
01:22:49,035 --> 01:22:52,304
You have a lot of potential to
get the experience on engines,

2380
01:22:52,304 --> 01:22:54,674
but at the end of the day, you
still need to move around to move

2381
01:22:54,674 --> 01:22:56,684
Truett Anderson: up in a way you do.

2382
01:22:56,835 --> 01:22:57,134
Yeah.

2383
01:22:57,139 --> 01:22:57,375
Mm-hmm.

2384
01:22:58,125 --> 01:22:58,625
Austin Lee: Um, yeah,

2385
01:22:58,995 --> 01:23:00,135
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
it depends on how patient

2386
01:23:00,135 --> 01:23:01,695
you're, I guess a bigger picture.

2387
01:23:01,725 --> 01:23:01,785
Yeah.

2388
01:23:01,785 --> 01:23:03,285
Not just necessarily Nevada.

2389
01:23:03,290 --> 01:23:03,505
Yeah.

2390
01:23:03,510 --> 01:23:03,795
Yeah.

2391
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:04,025
I mean,

2392
01:23:04,285 --> 01:23:08,235
Austin Lee: it could have been a motto
of, you know, the, the 15, 16, 17,

2393
01:23:08,445 --> 01:23:13,785
even 18, um, you know, with, with the,
the hurting of people now, you know?

2394
01:23:13,790 --> 01:23:16,385
I mean, there's doors opening probably
at every district for anybody really.

2395
01:23:16,385 --> 01:23:16,745
Mm-hmm.

2396
01:23:17,445 --> 01:23:21,975
Um, you know, so I, I mean, still float
around by home means, you know, network,

2397
01:23:21,975 --> 01:23:26,265
get to know everybody, um, but, you know,
find home, you know, and, and see what

2398
01:23:26,265 --> 01:23:29,745
the opportunities look like and if they're
not there, you know, there's always Elco,

2399
01:23:29,750 --> 01:23:33,075
there's always Carson, there's always
Vegas, there's always Eli, you know, I

2400
01:23:33,075 --> 01:23:37,005
mean, we work great, I think as a state
in whole, you know, just trying to work

2401
01:23:37,005 --> 01:23:39,735
on this recruitment, retention and all
that fun stuff that we did all winter.

2402
01:23:39,740 --> 01:23:39,785
Yeah.

2403
01:23:39,785 --> 01:23:40,105
Mm-hmm.

2404
01:23:40,185 --> 01:23:42,705
It was, it was an awesome,
awesome to be a part of that.

2405
01:23:42,710 --> 01:23:47,385
So, and I think, you know, again, like
things like this are so valuable because,

2406
01:23:47,385 --> 01:23:51,795
you know, like I'm talking with, um,
you know, guys from Ruby Mountain Hot

2407
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:54,855
Shots yesterday and like, you know,
about what they need and how we might

2408
01:23:54,855 --> 01:23:58,514
be able to help and, you know, like, You
know, just making those opportunities

2409
01:23:58,514 --> 01:23:59,985
and creating those relationships.

2410
01:23:59,985 --> 01:24:05,865
Like, because like ultimately, you
know, it, it is all Nevada BLM folks

2411
01:24:05,865 --> 01:24:10,035
here, but you know, regardless of it
was for service and BLM or whatever,

2412
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:12,195
like, we're all trying to do the same
thing at the end of the day and we're

2413
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:15,684
all trying to progress forward and, and,
you know, look out for our people and

2414
01:24:16,004 --> 01:24:17,804
get 'em the best opportunities we can.

2415
01:24:17,804 --> 01:24:22,485
So, you know, like if, if I can
kick somebody, you know, four hours

2416
01:24:22,485 --> 01:24:25,575
away to Elko for, you know, two or
three weeks to get that opportunity,

2417
01:24:25,580 --> 01:24:28,304
then as long as I can make it
work on my end, I'm gonna do it.

2418
01:24:28,304 --> 01:24:29,535
It's, I'm gonna be a question.

2419
01:24:29,540 --> 01:24:32,925
So, you know, but knowing that
they need that is half the battle

2420
01:24:33,025 --> 01:24:36,434
and, and you know, being able to
communicate across the state is huge.

2421
01:24:36,764 --> 01:24:36,855
Oh

2422
01:24:36,855 --> 01:24:37,125
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
yeah.

2423
01:24:37,875 --> 01:24:40,514
I think another thing that's, uh,
beneficial about the engine programs

2424
01:24:40,514 --> 01:24:42,615
too is like the flexibility.

2425
01:24:42,735 --> 01:24:44,235
Like you guys, even you said it right?

2426
01:24:44,235 --> 01:24:46,634
You have the ability to like
grab somebody for two weeks.

2427
01:24:46,634 --> 01:24:49,710
So if someone has a wedding to go
to, Or if someone has like a birthday

2428
01:24:49,710 --> 01:24:53,550
for their kid or like, I don't know,
family reunion, whatever event.

2429
01:24:53,554 --> 01:24:53,820
Right.

2430
01:24:53,820 --> 01:24:58,080
You, you have a lot of flexibility built
into that to where you can be like, Hey

2431
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:00,300
Drew, I gotta go for this, this wedding.

2432
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:01,469
Do you mind if I do this right?

2433
01:25:01,559 --> 01:25:01,740
Truett Anderson: Yeah.

2434
01:25:01,740 --> 01:25:04,440
Get back to work or to have
a baby shut up and Duke.

2435
01:25:04,679 --> 01:25:04,950
Yeah.

2436
01:25:04,950 --> 01:25:05,760
Or have a baby.

2437
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:05,910
Elliot Krinka: Have

2438
01:25:05,910 --> 01:25:06,389
Austin Lee: a baby.

2439
01:25:06,394 --> 01:25:07,590
He does that Good timing.

2440
01:25:07,594 --> 01:25:07,760
Yeah.

2441
01:25:08,190 --> 01:25:08,400
Elliot Krinka: Yeah.

2442
01:25:08,405 --> 01:25:09,300
Which is, which I thought

2443
01:25:09,300 --> 01:25:10,110
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
everybody planned.

2444
01:25:10,110 --> 01:25:13,019
Like, you know, do you want
that baby either delivered

2445
01:25:13,019 --> 01:25:14,550
in the fall or the spring?

2446
01:25:14,554 --> 01:25:15,120
You know?

2447
01:25:15,210 --> 01:25:16,139
Austin Lee: Not if you want a summer

2448
01:25:16,139 --> 01:25:17,760
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
off, you know,

2449
01:25:18,090 --> 01:25:19,960
Elliot Krinka: you try to plan
then it just doesn't work that way.

2450
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:20,320
That way.

2451
01:25:20,540 --> 01:25:20,760
No.

2452
01:25:20,969 --> 01:25:21,320
Ain't

2453
01:25:21,325 --> 01:25:21,929
Truett Anderson: that the truth?

2454
01:25:22,559 --> 01:25:24,120
I, I have summer babies too.

2455
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:24,510
Don't worry.

2456
01:25:24,910 --> 01:25:25,200
Yeah.

2457
01:25:25,559 --> 01:25:26,519
I, I miss a lot

2458
01:25:26,519 --> 01:25:27,000
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
of birthdays.

2459
01:25:27,019 --> 01:25:27,240
Mm.

2460
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:27,559
Mm-hmm.

2461
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:29,519
But that is one thing that's
getting better though, is like

2462
01:25:29,519 --> 01:25:31,019
that, that work life balance.

2463
01:25:31,019 --> 01:25:34,740
And like when I first started out in
2009, the expectation was, I mean,

2464
01:25:34,740 --> 01:25:36,210
this is not very long ago, right?

2465
01:25:36,215 --> 01:25:36,320
Yeah.

2466
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:39,599
I only have 11 seasons in under my belt
and I don't even fight fire anymore.

2467
01:25:39,599 --> 01:25:40,380
I'm not even in the game.

2468
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:44,851
But it seems like overall that there's
a lot more respect for, uh, like,

2469
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:49,350
Personal stuff going on, there's a lot
more leeway to go to those birthdays,

2470
01:25:49,350 --> 01:25:51,120
those weddings, those blah blah, blah.

2471
01:25:51,150 --> 01:25:53,100
Go see your son or daughter be born.

2472
01:25:53,100 --> 01:25:53,430
Right.

2473
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:56,550
And I think that's a major
change that's happened over the

2474
01:25:56,550 --> 01:25:59,340
last maybe six, seven years.

2475
01:25:59,370 --> 01:25:59,660
Yeah.

2476
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:00,210
Yeah.

2477
01:26:00,210 --> 01:26:01,440
It's like that acceptance, you know,

2478
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:05,610
Austin Lee: I mean, paid 12 weeks off now
for, you know, baby, for having a child.

2479
01:26:05,910 --> 01:26:06,300
Oh shit.

2480
01:26:06,300 --> 01:26:06,540
Yeah.

2481
01:26:06,540 --> 01:26:10,620
I had, I had, uh, well, I guess I
didn't have him, my wife had our son.

2482
01:26:10,740 --> 01:26:11,910
You still got paternity leave?

2483
01:26:11,940 --> 01:26:13,050
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2484
01:26:13,110 --> 01:26:16,710
I got, uh, I had our, we had
our son in July, uh, 2021.

2485
01:26:16,770 --> 01:26:20,490
I took six weeks off, came back in
August, jumped on a fire assignment,

2486
01:26:20,495 --> 01:26:23,100
came back, and then still had the
six weeks to burn during the winter.

2487
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:23,610
Mm-hmm.

2488
01:26:23,850 --> 01:26:25,800
You know, and so really thankful for that.

2489
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:30,000
You know, big part of his life is, you
know, he's born, it's game changing.

2490
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:30,720
It's, it's, oh yeah.

2491
01:26:30,780 --> 01:26:33,960
It's, you know, it, it was awesome
to be able to be a part of that,

2492
01:26:34,020 --> 01:26:35,220
you know, and, and know that.

2493
01:26:35,565 --> 01:26:39,165
My engine back home is being
covered and you know, I can forget

2494
01:26:39,165 --> 01:26:40,425
about work for the six weeks.

2495
01:26:40,425 --> 01:26:41,175
And that's a big thing.

2496
01:26:41,175 --> 01:26:42,195
You don't have to drag it home.

2497
01:26:42,195 --> 01:26:42,735
Exactly.

2498
01:26:42,735 --> 01:26:44,415
So big changes for sure though.

2499
01:26:44,985 --> 01:26:45,435
Truett Anderson: Oh yeah.

2500
01:26:45,435 --> 01:26:49,545
Like when I had my kids years ago,
like I didn't, we didn't have that.

2501
01:26:50,305 --> 01:26:53,475
I, I went and then week
later I was back at work.

2502
01:26:53,735 --> 01:26:56,235
Like, I thought I was gone way too long.

2503
01:26:56,235 --> 01:26:58,875
Like I missed 40 hours of
work, I gotta get back here.

2504
01:26:58,875 --> 01:26:59,145
Oh sure.

2505
01:26:59,145 --> 01:26:59,415
Yeah.

2506
01:26:59,505 --> 01:27:02,025
You know, and like, that was
just the mindset back then.

2507
01:27:02,025 --> 01:27:05,925
Like in the early, like my early
career, like, you gotta get here.

2508
01:27:06,105 --> 01:27:07,305
This is the only way
you're gonna make money.

2509
01:27:07,305 --> 01:27:08,055
You gotta be here.

2510
01:27:08,055 --> 01:27:11,265
And now I see these dudes, I
get really jealous of like,

2511
01:27:11,835 --> 01:27:13,105
you got how many days off?

2512
01:27:13,105 --> 01:27:14,355
Like 12 weeks?

2513
01:27:14,355 --> 01:27:17,475
Like what the, you know, like Yeah.

2514
01:27:17,475 --> 01:27:18,885
I try not to talk about it too much.

2515
01:27:19,215 --> 01:27:19,695
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Well, guess what?

2516
01:27:20,105 --> 01:27:22,125
A couple thousand people
are listening, so buckle up.

2517
01:27:22,130 --> 01:27:22,225
But,

2518
01:27:23,985 --> 01:27:25,815
Truett Anderson: but it is good though
that they're thinking of that and

2519
01:27:25,815 --> 01:27:29,595
like, and being more acceptable to
like, you know, I'm the worst about it.

2520
01:27:29,595 --> 01:27:30,375
I'm like, dude, you want.

2521
01:27:30,895 --> 01:27:31,950
You want how many days off?

2522
01:27:31,950 --> 01:27:35,460
Like, no, dude, you get back to
work, you take your two, let's go.

2523
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:36,990
But I'm getting more better.

2524
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:38,070
Like, more better.

2525
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:39,300
That's more better earth.

2526
01:27:39,480 --> 01:27:39,630
Yeah.

2527
01:27:40,260 --> 01:27:44,040
Um, but I'm getting better about
it just because that's, it's

2528
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:45,270
bringing the dudes back to work.

2529
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:45,930
Yeah.

2530
01:27:46,470 --> 01:27:48,390
Like going, keeping a happy team, man.

2531
01:27:48,395 --> 01:27:52,140
And it's, you know, it's, it's
a happy life if, if you're,

2532
01:27:52,440 --> 01:27:56,340
you know, the happy wife, happy
life, but how those guys need it.

2533
01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:56,730
Yeah.

2534
01:27:56,735 --> 01:28:02,970
You know, we have a, we have a very high
divorce rate in the, in the fire service.

2535
01:28:02,975 --> 01:28:06,600
Like, people struggle in and it's,
and if you don't know how to, like,

2536
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:08,520
can't have those battles, like Yeah.

2537
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:11,910
I mean, they're gonna lose
the dude because, you know,

2538
01:28:11,940 --> 01:28:12,900
he's like, I gotta quit.

2539
01:28:12,930 --> 01:28:13,770
Like, fuck this out.

2540
01:28:13,860 --> 01:28:14,160
Yeah.

2541
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:14,700
Or.

2542
01:28:15,059 --> 01:28:15,929
I'm gonna lose it.

2543
01:28:15,929 --> 01:28:18,509
He, because he's doesn't know
how to handle that stress,

2544
01:28:18,509 --> 01:28:19,500
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
you know, and like, or doesn't

2545
01:28:19,500 --> 01:28:20,459
have the resources Yeah.

2546
01:28:20,459 --> 01:28:22,440
That he knows about to get
the help that he needs.

2547
01:28:22,440 --> 01:28:22,559
Yeah.

2548
01:28:22,559 --> 01:28:24,209
Or they need, and so

2549
01:28:24,209 --> 01:28:26,969
Truett Anderson: now we're, that's
the best thing is we're transitioning

2550
01:28:26,969 --> 01:28:28,500
and all that, and adapting

2551
01:28:28,500 --> 01:28:30,030
Austin Lee: to the culture
and the changes, you know?

2552
01:28:30,030 --> 01:28:30,031
Yeah.

2553
01:28:30,035 --> 01:28:32,480
And, you know, there are
resources now, you know mm-hmm.

2554
01:28:32,559 --> 01:28:33,519
Through Vind, fire info.

2555
01:28:33,870 --> 01:28:37,169
I mean, there's, there's counseling,
there's, there's all those resources out

2556
01:28:37,169 --> 01:28:41,009
there now that are, you know, they're
on a plate, you just gotta pick it up.

2557
01:28:41,009 --> 01:28:41,339
Yeah.

2558
01:28:41,339 --> 01:28:44,759
You know, and it's, it's kind of
nice to see that the Nevada b LM

2559
01:28:44,759 --> 01:28:47,790
is really making that push to,
you know, take care of our own.

2560
01:28:47,790 --> 01:28:48,150
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Mm-hmm.

2561
01:28:48,480 --> 01:28:51,089
So, well that's another thing too,
like you guys all have mentioned

2562
01:28:51,089 --> 01:28:52,839
that is changed over time.

2563
01:28:53,429 --> 01:28:56,250
Like that whole work life balance
thing, the whole like taking

2564
01:28:56,254 --> 01:28:58,589
care of our own, I mean, yeah.

2565
01:28:58,589 --> 01:29:00,870
Everybody's got their different,
like expectations of their

2566
01:29:00,875 --> 01:29:02,009
employees and we all do, man.

2567
01:29:02,009 --> 01:29:04,830
I'm expecting them to show up
and work just as hard and just as

2568
01:29:04,834 --> 01:29:07,200
long and be there and be present
and all that stuff like that.

2569
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:13,350
But then again, if I were to do it all
over again, I would try and have, I would,

2570
01:29:13,350 --> 01:29:16,680
I'd rather have what we have now that,
that expectation of you being able to

2571
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:18,480
take that time off, be with your family.

2572
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,360
But I was thinking about this last night
during the bowling thing and having some

2573
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:24,990
conversations with everybody and it's,
it's because of the people in this room.

2574
01:29:24,995 --> 01:29:28,980
It's like, you, you, you, you, everybody
in that room, we set the pace for the

2575
01:29:28,980 --> 01:29:30,510
new generation firefighters, right?

2576
01:29:30,510 --> 01:29:30,840
Yeah.

2577
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:35,370
It's, it's thanks to
folks like us, not me.

2578
01:29:35,790 --> 01:29:39,090
Obviously I'm a, just a dickhead
with a microphone and a camera, but

2579
01:29:39,090 --> 01:29:42,600
it's folks like us that have set
the pace and made the new standard.

2580
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:47,040
So we say this new generation
of firefighting and this new

2581
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:50,760
paradigm shift, but really was
it us that implemented that?

2582
01:29:51,330 --> 01:29:52,890
Because I think it's our generations.

2583
01:29:53,190 --> 01:29:54,300
I mean, we're all about the same age.

2584
01:29:54,300 --> 01:29:56,010
What, mid thirties, low forties.

2585
01:29:57,870 --> 01:30:00,330
I think it's us that we kind of set
that pace cuz we were vocal about it.

2586
01:30:00,330 --> 01:30:01,470
We talked to leadership.

2587
01:30:01,470 --> 01:30:03,720
We directed and steered that.

2588
01:30:04,540 --> 01:30:04,980
I don't know.

2589
01:30:04,980 --> 01:30:06,059
It's, it's what it seems like

2590
01:30:06,059 --> 01:30:06,480
Austin Lee: to me.

2591
01:30:06,599 --> 01:30:09,840
Well, and we saw, I mean, at least from
my experience, like how many people

2592
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:11,340
left because those things weren't there.

2593
01:30:11,340 --> 01:30:15,870
Like, it was a consequence of like,
you know, this attrition that we're

2594
01:30:15,870 --> 01:30:19,650
dealing with now is like, oh shit,
we need to give people more time off.

2595
01:30:19,650 --> 01:30:23,429
Like, we need to, you know,
understand like how taxing this is

2596
01:30:23,759 --> 01:30:27,809
mentally, emotionally, you know, on
families, on, on significant others.

2597
01:30:27,809 --> 01:30:31,800
And like, you know, I'd like to think,
yeah, we were ahead of the curve, but I

2598
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:34,650
don't think we were, I think, you know,
in the last four years of been catch

2599
01:30:34,650 --> 01:30:38,880
up of like, yeah, oh shit, we kind of
fucked things up for, you know, what

2600
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:40,259
the shit that we brought up though.

2601
01:30:40,264 --> 01:30:40,969
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2602
01:30:41,309 --> 01:30:46,530
And, and you know, but hopefully,
yeah, like we can smooth

2603
01:30:46,530 --> 01:30:47,639
things out going forward.

2604
01:30:47,639 --> 01:30:51,900
And like, I know for me, like a
rule that I have with my wife is

2605
01:30:51,900 --> 01:30:55,500
like, we try and take one trip a
summer, in the middle of the summer

2606
01:30:55,505 --> 01:30:57,330
to try and actually have a summer.

2607
01:30:57,990 --> 01:31:00,240
And we've been doing that for a
while and it's still uncomfortable

2608
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:03,719
every year when I have to go and ask
for a week off in July, you know?

2609
01:31:03,719 --> 01:31:05,309
And like, yeah.

2610
01:31:05,309 --> 01:31:06,929
And that, that's just
like a personal thing.

2611
01:31:06,929 --> 01:31:10,170
But if, if my guys ask for a week
off, I'm be like, yeah, do it.

2612
01:31:10,170 --> 01:31:10,559
Go for it.

2613
01:31:10,630 --> 01:31:10,920
Yeah.

2614
01:31:11,059 --> 01:31:15,389
And, and no question that's, yeah,
it's not even an issue, but you know,

2615
01:31:15,389 --> 01:31:18,929
like, just cause of the way, like, you
know, the, the culture was, it's like

2616
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:23,370
my boss doesn't really care, you know,
we'll figure it out, but like, cuz

2617
01:31:23,429 --> 01:31:25,349
they, they ma they care about that too.

2618
01:31:25,349 --> 01:31:29,250
But yeah, just the idea of having to do
it, it's swallowing my own ego and pride.

2619
01:31:29,969 --> 01:31:33,450
Elliot Krinka: And then as a supervisor,
when, you know, I was running

2620
01:31:33,450 --> 01:31:38,040
engines, I didn't like to take off
time because if I took off, then my

2621
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:39,540
crew members didn't get the money.

2622
01:31:39,545 --> 01:31:40,230
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2623
01:31:40,230 --> 01:31:40,830
And that was my

2624
01:31:40,830 --> 01:31:41,519
Austin Lee: biggest issue.

2625
01:31:41,639 --> 01:31:44,429
You have an obligation to them,
almost like a contract, like

2626
01:31:44,460 --> 01:31:46,349
you're here for the six months.

2627
01:31:46,905 --> 01:31:49,260
You know, you, you know, you
tell me what you wanna see, and

2628
01:31:49,260 --> 01:31:50,700
I do my best to make that happen.

2629
01:31:50,700 --> 01:31:50,940
Yeah.

2630
01:31:50,940 --> 01:31:51,690
And it's still wild

2631
01:31:51,690 --> 01:31:51,750
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
though.

2632
01:31:51,980 --> 01:31:52,100
I

2633
01:31:52,100 --> 01:31:54,600
Elliot Krinka: didn't, I didn't mind if
they took off, but I had a problem with

2634
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:56,700
myself taking time off just for them.

2635
01:31:56,970 --> 01:31:57,300
Yeah,

2636
01:31:57,300 --> 01:31:57,301
Austin Lee: yeah.

2637
01:31:57,780 --> 01:31:57,960
Yeah.

2638
01:31:57,960 --> 01:31:58,710
And that's a good point.

2639
01:31:58,710 --> 01:31:59,490
It is a struggle.

2640
01:31:59,490 --> 01:32:02,610
Like, you know, even, yeah,
like, man, I'd really like to

2641
01:32:02,610 --> 01:32:03,870
have that one extra day off.

2642
01:32:03,875 --> 01:32:06,930
You know, like if we're working six
and one and they, they want us to

2643
01:32:06,930 --> 01:32:10,980
pick it up, but like, knowing that
those folks, you know, only have a six

2644
01:32:10,980 --> 01:32:15,090
month max to, to make their money and,
and everything, like that's, yeah.

2645
01:32:15,900 --> 01:32:17,370
And that's the hardest
part about moving up.

2646
01:32:17,370 --> 01:32:21,290
Like at least I, I, maybe it
is better as a BC but you know,

2647
01:32:22,620 --> 01:32:24,090
as an engine captain it sucks.

2648
01:32:24,090 --> 01:32:29,880
Like, you know, like having to, uh,
you know, decide between like your

2649
01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:33,300
work life balance and putting your
folks, you know, best interest ahead.

2650
01:32:33,300 --> 01:32:33,690
So, yeah,

2651
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:36,570
Truett Anderson: I think it's, no
matter what, it's always a struggle.

2652
01:32:36,570 --> 01:32:41,054
Like I'm one of those bcs,
uh, Oh, the guy need to leave.

2653
01:32:41,054 --> 01:32:42,615
Like, okay, I'm gonna
run your truck today.

2654
01:32:42,705 --> 01:32:42,945
Yeah.

2655
01:32:43,035 --> 01:32:45,585
You ain't gonna like what I do to
it, but I'm gonna run the truck.

2656
01:32:45,585 --> 01:32:45,615
I

2657
01:32:45,615 --> 01:32:47,175
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
may break that shit, but Yeah.

2658
01:32:47,179 --> 01:32:50,385
Truett Anderson: Like, if the dudes need,
need to take a day, but man, for years,

2659
01:32:50,389 --> 01:32:52,485
like I don't have time to take off.

2660
01:32:52,485 --> 01:32:54,345
Like, no, we gotta plan.

2661
01:32:54,345 --> 01:32:57,855
Like, like I think that's awesome
that you take a week off every year.

2662
01:32:57,885 --> 01:33:02,835
Like, I should try that, but I'm
pretty sure like, I, like won't,

2663
01:33:03,345 --> 01:33:04,215
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
you're too much of a busy body.

2664
01:33:04,215 --> 01:33:05,054
You're gonna get stir crazy.

2665
01:33:05,085 --> 01:33:05,144
Yeah.

2666
01:33:05,144 --> 01:33:05,474
Well it's,

2667
01:33:06,135 --> 01:33:07,934
Truett Anderson: it's just, it's
been engraved in my head for

2668
01:33:08,054 --> 01:33:09,045
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
so many years and that's what

2669
01:33:09,045 --> 01:33:10,275
the culture has like drilled into

2670
01:33:10,275 --> 01:33:10,485
Truett Anderson: you, right?

2671
01:33:10,485 --> 01:33:10,635
Yeah.

2672
01:33:10,639 --> 01:33:12,865
I gotta make money
between this month mm-hmm.

2673
01:33:12,950 --> 01:33:13,724
And this month.

2674
01:33:13,934 --> 01:33:16,755
And that gets you through, like,
I've worked year round since I

2675
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:20,715
started, but boom, those are the
days that you gotta go make money.

2676
01:33:21,014 --> 01:33:21,315
Yeah.

2677
01:33:21,315 --> 01:33:24,315
And so it's, it's hard
to break that after.

2678
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:27,150
So many seasons, like Yeah, for sure.

2679
01:33:27,150 --> 01:33:29,100
But I'm really good at saying,
yeah, you wanna take a day off

2680
01:33:29,100 --> 01:33:29,440
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
or Yeah.

2681
01:33:29,440 --> 01:33:29,720
Do it.

2682
01:33:29,790 --> 01:33:29,970
Yeah.

2683
01:33:29,970 --> 01:33:31,830
But you're done taking care
of yourself in the long run.

2684
01:33:31,860 --> 01:33:34,620
Well, you're taking care of yourself,
but maybe not during the summer.

2685
01:33:34,620 --> 01:33:34,710
Right?

2686
01:33:34,710 --> 01:33:34,860
Yeah.

2687
01:33:34,865 --> 01:33:36,750
Like taking those opportunities, like, but

2688
01:33:36,750 --> 01:33:39,690
Truett Anderson: telling the boys, like
when I just got a Texas warning from one

2689
01:33:39,690 --> 01:33:42,920
of the guys, like, Hey, after our week
in 4 0 1, can I take a couple days off?

2690
01:33:43,270 --> 01:33:43,560
Yeah.

2691
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:44,400
I don't care, dude.

2692
01:33:44,490 --> 01:33:44,640
Fuck.

2693
01:33:45,780 --> 01:33:46,600
You know, go for it.

2694
01:33:47,150 --> 01:33:47,440
Yeah.

2695
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:49,650
Like, why are you asking?

2696
01:33:49,655 --> 01:33:50,700
Like, you know my answer?

2697
01:33:50,790 --> 01:33:51,150
Like, yeah,

2698
01:33:51,780 --> 01:33:52,500
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
we'll figure it out.

2699
01:33:52,500 --> 01:33:52,710
Yeah.

2700
01:33:52,710 --> 01:33:53,280
In the back end for

2701
01:33:53,285 --> 01:33:53,820
Truett Anderson: staffing.

2702
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:54,120
Yeah.

2703
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:56,700
Like, oh, well you're
gonna miss a couple days.

2704
01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:58,440
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Like, there's ain't shit going on, man.

2705
01:33:58,445 --> 01:33:58,830
It's, it's,

2706
01:33:58,830 --> 01:33:59,010
Truett Anderson: yeah.

2707
01:33:59,015 --> 01:33:59,730
And it's early.

2708
01:33:59,730 --> 01:34:02,911
Everyone's getting geared up
ready for the seasonals come on.

2709
01:34:03,270 --> 01:34:06,210
But like he's going through
the 4 0 1 program, which is

2710
01:34:06,210 --> 01:34:07,890
all the college crap with me.

2711
01:34:07,890 --> 01:34:09,810
So like, I get it, man.

2712
01:34:09,810 --> 01:34:12,810
Like you want to take before the
season starts to take and just reset,

2713
01:34:12,810 --> 01:34:14,220
like Yeah, take a breather, man.

2714
01:34:14,225 --> 01:34:14,240
Yeah.

2715
01:34:14,700 --> 01:34:16,380
Like there's nothing against doing that.

2716
01:34:16,950 --> 01:34:17,250
Austin Lee: Yeah.

2717
01:34:17,310 --> 01:34:19,560
And I think that's the good direction
we're going is that workforce

2718
01:34:19,565 --> 01:34:22,260
transformation, you know, with
the fire and the fuels program is.

2719
01:34:22,695 --> 01:34:25,905
You know, my truck sits three
if I'm down a guy, truck's down.

2720
01:34:26,175 --> 01:34:26,295
Yeah.

2721
01:34:26,295 --> 01:34:29,205
Well, I can grab somebody from Fuels
and say, Hey, are you available

2722
01:34:29,205 --> 01:34:31,125
to staff for these five days?

2723
01:34:31,130 --> 01:34:33,465
I got somebody that's gonna
take a vacation, you know?

2724
01:34:33,465 --> 01:34:35,325
And they're like, oh
yeah, yeah, sure should.

2725
01:34:35,325 --> 01:34:38,175
Yeah, I'd love to jump on an engine and do
some mobile attack, you know, like, yeah.

2726
01:34:38,655 --> 01:34:38,835
Oh,

2727
01:34:38,955 --> 01:34:39,375
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
sweet cover.

2728
01:34:39,615 --> 01:34:42,615
I'll put out a single tree on the
top of wherever it's Oh, yeah.

2729
01:34:42,615 --> 01:34:43,125
Austin Lee: It's fun shit.

2730
01:34:43,155 --> 01:34:43,995
Oh yeah, exactly.

2731
01:34:43,995 --> 01:34:44,265
You know?

2732
01:34:44,265 --> 01:34:45,885
So I think that's where that push is.

2733
01:34:46,365 --> 01:34:48,945
We're, you know, like, like we
were saying is, we were, might

2734
01:34:48,945 --> 01:34:51,075
have been behind the curb a little
bit, but we're getting caught up.

2735
01:34:51,195 --> 01:34:51,495
Yeah.

2736
01:34:51,495 --> 01:34:51,765
Yeah.

2737
01:34:51,765 --> 01:34:55,545
So, so last year, I, I took
my week off with my wife.

2738
01:34:55,545 --> 01:34:57,825
We went to Denver for like six days.

2739
01:34:57,830 --> 01:35:01,695
And, uh, there was a guy from the
state office that was covering for

2740
01:35:01,695 --> 01:35:04,785
me and, uh, you know, it was supposed
to be at five days and then he ended

2741
01:35:04,785 --> 01:35:06,615
up in Elco on severity for two weeks.

2742
01:35:07,605 --> 01:35:07,875
Whoops.

2743
01:35:08,535 --> 01:35:11,085
So, but he was stoked and, you
know, the, the engine got out.

2744
01:35:11,085 --> 01:35:11,805
So it was awesome.

2745
01:35:11,810 --> 01:35:14,135
But yeah, it was just kind of
funny, like, you know, it can be.

2746
01:35:14,790 --> 01:35:15,990
Hey, come over for five days.

2747
01:35:15,990 --> 01:35:19,740
Like, oh, actually we're going here,
so hopefully you're good for 14.

2748
01:35:21,510 --> 01:35:22,650
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
I'm glad you brought up that point

2749
01:35:22,650 --> 01:35:25,230
though, cuz I think a lot of people
don't talk about that, especially like

2750
01:35:25,230 --> 01:35:28,230
from a leadership perspective, is that
sacrifice you have to make because you

2751
01:35:28,230 --> 01:35:31,590
do have to, it's, it's like the untalked
about things like when you become a

2752
01:35:31,590 --> 01:35:33,361
supervisor of some sort, any sort, right?

2753
01:35:33,750 --> 01:35:38,910
You do have to keep your, your crew's
best interests in mind and that requires

2754
01:35:38,910 --> 01:35:40,470
a sacrifice from the captains man.

2755
01:35:40,470 --> 01:35:43,380
I mean, you have to fill in those gaps
and yeah, you gotta make their money.

2756
01:35:43,380 --> 01:35:44,430
Especially the seasonals man.

2757
01:35:44,435 --> 01:35:44,650
Yeah.

2758
01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:45,170
Yeah.

2759
01:35:45,930 --> 01:35:47,580
I'm glad you brought that up cuz I, yeah.

2760
01:35:47,580 --> 01:35:50,550
That, that never comes up in a
talk like conversation, really.

2761
01:35:51,030 --> 01:35:51,420
Yeah.

2762
01:35:51,425 --> 01:35:51,530
Yeah.

2763
01:35:51,810 --> 01:35:54,930
Austin Lee: I mean, shout out to my wife
for, you know, putting up with your shit.

2764
01:35:54,930 --> 01:35:57,630
Putting up with my shit and
putting sometimes like, you know,

2765
01:35:57,840 --> 01:35:59,460
guilty put work first, you know?

2766
01:35:59,550 --> 01:36:00,420
Um, we all do.

2767
01:36:00,420 --> 01:36:00,960
We're all guilty.

2768
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:01,830
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
It's part of the culture, man.

2769
01:36:01,835 --> 01:36:01,970
Austin Lee: Yeah.

2770
01:36:01,970 --> 01:36:04,500
And I, you know, I feel like, you
know, that's just me doing my job

2771
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:07,800
and serving my guys a purpose for why
they're there and why I'm there too.

2772
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:08,130
So,

2773
01:36:08,135 --> 01:36:08,410
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
yeah.

2774
01:36:10,019 --> 01:36:10,890
That's awesome man.

2775
01:36:11,610 --> 01:36:14,610
But, uh, I know you guys gotta get
outta here pretty soon, so I'm gonna

2776
01:36:14,610 --> 01:36:17,610
wrap this thing up, but, uh, just
wanna say thank you guys for coming

2777
01:36:17,610 --> 01:36:22,200
in and showing the, uh, the ropes for
the, uh, B L M Nevada Engine Program

2778
01:36:22,290 --> 01:36:25,710
and, uh, if you guys had any, like,
tips on hiring or anything like that.

2779
01:36:25,710 --> 01:36:28,201
I know you guys mentioned that a
couple times about hiring, so if

2780
01:36:28,260 --> 01:36:31,440
you guys got any tips or tricks
for like a last, last little

2781
01:36:31,650 --> 01:36:32,400
Austin Lee: note there.

2782
01:36:32,405 --> 01:36:32,460
Yeah.

2783
01:36:32,790 --> 01:36:37,019
Yeah, so I mean, what I would, you
know, plug for all of Na Nevada would

2784
01:36:37,019 --> 01:36:40,260
be, um, in vfi info uh, dot org.

2785
01:36:40,380 --> 01:36:44,250
Um, so that's, you know, what we're
trying to use as kind of our one-stop

2786
01:36:44,255 --> 01:36:49,410
shop for, uh, you know, everything,
fire information, um, you know,

2787
01:36:49,440 --> 01:36:54,750
career information, uh, you know, any
kind of resume application guidance.

2788
01:36:54,750 --> 01:36:56,580
And, uh, you can go on there.

2789
01:36:56,580 --> 01:37:00,600
You know, if, if you are interested in
fighting fire in Nevada, it's you've

2790
01:37:00,605 --> 01:37:04,260
never fought fire or you know, you're
in another state and you just want

2791
01:37:04,260 --> 01:37:07,230
to kind of get an idea of what BLM
Nevada's about, you can go on there.

2792
01:37:07,605 --> 01:37:11,025
Click contact a recruiter,
um, and schedule a time.

2793
01:37:11,025 --> 01:37:16,005
And, you know, more than likely it'll be
me, uh, Chris Weaver calling you and just

2794
01:37:16,005 --> 01:37:19,934
having a conversation and seeing, you
know, what's gonna be the best fit for you

2795
01:37:19,934 --> 01:37:21,974
within the state or within our programs.

2796
01:37:21,974 --> 01:37:24,915
And, um, trying to help
set you up for success.

2797
01:37:24,945 --> 01:37:28,934
Um, you know, put you in touch with one of
the districts if that's gonna be the best

2798
01:37:28,934 --> 01:37:31,035
or if it's one of the crews or whatever.

2799
01:37:31,035 --> 01:37:34,575
And, and just really, um, you
know, help move the program forward

2800
01:37:34,575 --> 01:37:35,865
from a statewide perspective.

2801
01:37:35,865 --> 01:37:36,075
So,

2802
01:37:36,585 --> 01:37:36,974
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
oh yeah.

2803
01:37:37,934 --> 01:37:38,805
Anybody else got anything to

2804
01:37:38,809 --> 01:37:38,985
Austin Lee: add?

2805
01:37:39,195 --> 01:37:41,535
My one thing you know is don't
be afraid to show your face.

2806
01:37:41,865 --> 01:37:44,715
You know, those district office doors
are open Monday, the old school approach.

2807
01:37:44,745 --> 01:37:44,805
FaceTime.

2808
01:37:44,805 --> 01:37:44,894
Yeah.

2809
01:37:45,135 --> 01:37:45,974
Monday through Friday.

2810
01:37:45,980 --> 01:37:48,434
Go to that front desk and say,
Hey, I want to fight fire.

2811
01:37:48,945 --> 01:37:51,135
They call one of us up there and
we'll have that conversation with you.

2812
01:37:51,345 --> 01:37:51,585
Well, if

2813
01:37:51,585 --> 01:37:52,695
Truett Anderson: you're
in Vegas, don't go to the.

2814
01:37:53,085 --> 01:37:55,094
Don't go to the district office,
just drive out to Red Rock

2815
01:37:55,934 --> 01:37:56,625
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
because I'm not.

2816
01:37:56,684 --> 01:37:58,065
It's a cool station out there, dude.

2817
01:37:58,065 --> 01:37:58,214
Yeah.

2818
01:37:58,214 --> 01:37:58,964
That's a cool station.

2819
01:37:58,964 --> 01:37:59,445
Truett Anderson: It is.

2820
01:37:59,665 --> 01:38:01,575
I I just won't drive
to the district office.

2821
01:38:02,474 --> 01:38:04,035
It's too far too much traffic.

2822
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:04,634
I can find that

2823
01:38:04,665 --> 01:38:05,535
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
you come to the station.

2824
01:38:05,655 --> 01:38:08,625
The old topic of how ops people
avoid the state office, like

2825
01:38:08,629 --> 01:38:10,785
a plague district office,

2826
01:38:11,044 --> 01:38:11,924
Truett Anderson: so Oh yeah.

2827
01:38:11,924 --> 01:38:12,674
I hate going there.

2828
01:38:12,974 --> 01:38:13,304
Yeah.

2829
01:38:14,415 --> 01:38:14,594
I just

2830
01:38:14,594 --> 01:38:18,915
Elliot Krinka: wanna put out there, you
know, now is not, or now is no better

2831
01:38:18,919 --> 01:38:24,075
time to get into fire with our career
GS four s I know these 18, 19, 20 year

2832
01:38:24,075 --> 01:38:25,905
olds aren't thinking about retirement.

2833
01:38:26,144 --> 01:38:29,865
You need to be, but fire retirement
is one of the best out there.

2834
01:38:30,174 --> 01:38:33,315
And if you get in, get your foot
in the door, get that career.

2835
01:38:33,315 --> 01:38:36,014
18, 19, 20, you're retiring at 45.

2836
01:38:36,285 --> 01:38:36,495
Truett Anderson: Yep.

2837
01:38:37,304 --> 01:38:37,815
And a lot

2838
01:38:37,815 --> 01:38:38,745
Elliot Krinka: of people don't think about

2839
01:38:38,745 --> 01:38:39,014
Austin Lee: that.

2840
01:38:39,075 --> 01:38:39,344
Yep.

2841
01:38:39,434 --> 01:38:41,684
I'll be out at 45 young enough
to start a whole nother career.

2842
01:38:41,690 --> 01:38:41,815
Yeah.

2843
01:38:41,815 --> 01:38:42,134
Like that.

2844
01:38:42,134 --> 01:38:42,375
You could

2845
01:38:42,379 --> 01:38:42,884
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
double dip.

2846
01:38:43,065 --> 01:38:43,335
Yeah.

2847
01:38:43,485 --> 01:38:44,655
Double Parkinson of a bitch.

2848
01:38:44,655 --> 01:38:45,014
I have to wait.

2849
01:38:45,214 --> 01:38:46,514
I have to wait till 49,

2850
01:38:46,735 --> 01:38:47,535
Austin Lee: but yeah.

2851
01:38:47,655 --> 01:38:48,016
50 though.

2852
01:38:48,155 --> 01:38:48,795
And I'm out.

2853
01:38:48,884 --> 01:38:49,174
Yeah.

2854
01:38:49,394 --> 01:38:50,535
Elliot Krinka: So I'm just cool.

2855
01:38:50,535 --> 01:38:52,155
Just definitely think about that.

2856
01:38:52,830 --> 01:38:54,030
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
That's not a lot of time, man.

2857
01:38:54,450 --> 01:38:57,900
Like from when I started fire, I
mean, I'm almost 40 years old now.

2858
01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:01,410
I mean, I, I, I practic
practically blacked out.

2859
01:39:01,410 --> 01:39:02,940
That's like a blink of the eye.

2860
01:39:03,059 --> 01:39:05,910
If I could retire at 40,
dude, that'd be awesome.

2861
01:39:06,389 --> 01:39:08,550
Or 45 even that's not very far away.

2862
01:39:08,550 --> 01:39:10,330
I'd still be fine fit for duty.

2863
01:39:10,710 --> 01:39:12,420
I can go work somewhere
else if I wanted to.

2864
01:39:12,480 --> 01:39:12,570
Mm-hmm.

2865
01:39:12,809 --> 01:39:12,900
Yep.

2866
01:39:13,110 --> 01:39:13,380
Yeah.

2867
01:39:13,470 --> 01:39:15,960
You're not like washed up
and broke, like busted or

2868
01:39:15,965 --> 01:39:16,679
Austin Lee: anything like that.

2869
01:39:16,830 --> 01:39:19,889
One of the other things we're working
on, I know NEV or Las Vegas has

2870
01:39:19,889 --> 01:39:23,040
it, and then Reno's starting to,
uh, implement it at one of the high

2871
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:24,929
schools here is a fire science program.

2872
01:39:24,990 --> 01:39:25,110
Yep.

2873
01:39:25,590 --> 01:39:28,710
Uh, combination of structure and
wildland and then that's pretty bitching.

2874
01:39:28,715 --> 01:39:28,740
Yeah.

2875
01:39:28,769 --> 01:39:32,910
Um, you know, the hope would be, you
know, at least, uh, for the program here

2876
01:39:32,910 --> 01:39:38,250
in Reno, like we can set them up so that
if they want a career seasonal job, like

2877
01:39:38,429 --> 01:39:41,910
basically outta high school, you know,
we've put them on that path and then.

2878
01:39:42,429 --> 01:39:42,674
Yeah.

2879
01:39:42,674 --> 01:39:44,144
I mean, retire at 43.

2880
01:39:44,144 --> 01:39:45,405
Like yeah, that's crazy.

2881
01:39:45,405 --> 01:39:46,815
You know, like, and these kids

2882
01:39:46,815 --> 01:39:49,304
Truett Anderson: are, these kids are
buying into it, you know, like, yeah.

2883
01:39:49,365 --> 01:39:52,755
When we go in to help teach those
classes, those, you know, the

2884
01:39:52,755 --> 01:39:54,045
teacher doesn't really get it.

2885
01:39:54,049 --> 01:39:55,545
Like he's ha been exposed maybe.

2886
01:39:56,430 --> 01:40:00,135
Or like more in the structure societies
is, but yeah, they're used to Big red.

2887
01:40:00,135 --> 01:40:00,495
Yeah.

2888
01:40:00,500 --> 01:40:00,545
Yeah.

2889
01:40:00,585 --> 01:40:04,125
And then we come in and they're
like, what are, what are you kids?

2890
01:40:04,125 --> 01:40:04,307
You have a beer?

2891
01:40:04,445 --> 01:40:06,795
You have a beer, and the kids buy into it.

2892
01:40:06,795 --> 01:40:07,785
Man, why do you smell?

2893
01:40:07,905 --> 01:40:08,144
Yes.

2894
01:40:08,595 --> 01:40:11,355
They can't grow facial hair yet,
but they're like, I want that.

2895
01:40:11,355 --> 01:40:13,035
I'm like, okay, well come do my job.

2896
01:40:13,215 --> 01:40:13,934
Well think about the like

2897
01:40:13,934 --> 01:40:14,745
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
life benefits, not everybody.

2898
01:40:15,255 --> 01:40:15,465
Right?

2899
01:40:17,025 --> 01:40:20,565
Think about the, like the development
benefits of fire though you like rapidly

2900
01:40:20,565 --> 01:40:23,235
accelerate in maturity in some regard.

2901
01:40:23,295 --> 01:40:26,355
I mean, you do kind of make fart and
dick jokes in the woods with like 20 of

2902
01:40:26,355 --> 01:40:27,765
your best friends at the end of the day.

2903
01:40:27,945 --> 01:40:32,595
But I mean, as far as like maturity,
as far as like figuring shit out, being

2904
01:40:32,599 --> 01:40:36,285
self-sufficient, I mean it's, fire's
made me who I am today and I'll take

2905
01:40:36,285 --> 01:40:39,434
some of the lessons I've learned in
fire for the rest of my life and I'll

2906
01:40:39,434 --> 01:40:40,845
use them, apply 'em somewhere, right?

2907
01:40:41,325 --> 01:40:42,345
It's made me who I am today.

2908
01:40:42,405 --> 01:40:46,305
And I think that's something that's a
good selling point to these young folks

2909
01:40:46,309 --> 01:40:49,845
that are trying to get into fire is
that it's going to make you more mature,

2910
01:40:49,845 --> 01:40:51,224
it's going to make you responsible.

2911
01:40:51,224 --> 01:40:53,955
It's going to like push you
towards a direction that's gonna

2912
01:40:53,955 --> 01:40:55,815
be very beneficial to your life.

2913
01:40:57,134 --> 01:41:00,780
Maybe I'm biased cuz I had firsthand
experience and that's what my belief is.

2914
01:41:00,780 --> 01:41:02,940
But I don't know, what are
you guys thoughts on that?

2915
01:41:03,509 --> 01:41:03,570
I

2916
01:41:03,570 --> 01:41:04,889
Austin Lee: think it hit
the nail on the head, man.

2917
01:41:04,980 --> 01:41:06,690
I mean, at first when you
start, it might feel like you're

2918
01:41:06,690 --> 01:41:07,769
drinking through a fire hydrant.

2919
01:41:07,980 --> 01:41:08,130
Yeah.

2920
01:41:08,130 --> 01:41:09,660
You know, getting all
this stuff thrown at you.

2921
01:41:09,719 --> 01:41:12,299
That's like the metaphor we like to
use when we bring on our seasonals.

2922
01:41:12,809 --> 01:41:15,769
But you know, it's, it's all about being
in the moment, retaining what you can and,

2923
01:41:15,790 --> 01:41:18,120
and asking questions and doing cool shit.

2924
01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:18,570
Exactly.

2925
01:41:18,570 --> 01:41:18,630
Yeah.

2926
01:41:18,809 --> 01:41:22,380
Nobody in the office or nobody
in this job will have any problem

2927
01:41:22,380 --> 01:41:23,429
with answering a question.

2928
01:41:23,549 --> 01:41:23,639
Mm-hmm.

2929
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:25,740
Like literally no such
thing as a stupid question.

2930
01:41:25,769 --> 01:41:27,630
Unless it's something that
I already just told you.

2931
01:41:27,690 --> 01:41:27,809
Yeah.

2932
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:28,500
Three seconds ago.

2933
01:41:28,505 --> 01:41:29,009
Yeah, exactly.

2934
01:41:29,429 --> 01:41:30,420
But you know what I mean.

2935
01:41:30,424 --> 01:41:33,330
But I think nobody in this room,
nobody in the state would, you know,

2936
01:41:33,330 --> 01:41:34,740
you could, everybody's approachable.

2937
01:41:34,745 --> 01:41:34,809
Yeah.

2938
01:41:34,950 --> 01:41:37,830
So that's what I just respect
the most about Nevada bm.

2939
01:41:38,370 --> 01:41:38,549
Hell

2940
01:41:38,549 --> 01:41:38,759
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
yeah.

2941
01:41:39,660 --> 01:41:41,490
Well guys, we're rolling
to the end of the show.

2942
01:41:41,550 --> 01:41:42,960
Definitely wanna say thank you once again.

2943
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:45,540
Appreciate all you guys being out
here and telling, uh, the world

2944
01:41:45,540 --> 01:41:49,560
about the Nevada engine programs and
yeah, it's definitely changed me.

2945
01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:52,590
It's definitely been a fun time
working with a lot of you guys, so

2946
01:41:53,100 --> 01:41:56,250
it's been fun, but at the end of the
show, always give the opportunity for

2947
01:41:56,250 --> 01:41:57,720
shoutouts to homies, heroes, mentors.

2948
01:41:58,150 --> 01:41:59,280
Started off, man.

2949
01:41:59,850 --> 01:42:03,300
Austin Lee: You know, I just,
everybody that's still doing the job,

2950
01:42:03,450 --> 01:42:06,060
everybody in this room, you know,
including you for doing your time.

2951
01:42:06,300 --> 01:42:09,810
Um, you know, everybody that's still
grinding, grinding through asses

2952
01:42:09,815 --> 01:42:11,070
and elbows all the way through, man.

2953
01:42:11,070 --> 01:42:11,490
Mm-hmm.

2954
01:42:11,820 --> 01:42:14,220
Um, rocky times, but, you
know, we're getting through it.

2955
01:42:14,250 --> 01:42:15,360
There's light at the end of the tunnel.

2956
01:42:15,390 --> 01:42:16,410
I'm super optimistic.

2957
01:42:16,500 --> 01:42:17,070
Yeah, absolutely.

2958
01:42:17,460 --> 01:42:20,760
And, uh, you know, hang in there
and keep doing the good, good work

2959
01:42:20,760 --> 01:42:21,810
and keep fighting the good fight.

2960
01:42:22,470 --> 01:42:22,740
Oh, yeah,

2961
01:42:23,460 --> 01:42:23,640
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
yeah.

2962
01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:23,700
I

2963
01:42:23,700 --> 01:42:24,570
Truett Anderson: wanna say thanks, man.

2964
01:42:24,570 --> 01:42:27,180
Like I'm, I think it's
cool you got us in here.

2965
01:42:27,925 --> 01:42:30,435
But you're like talking about
fire and you're trying to get

2966
01:42:30,495 --> 01:42:32,325
more people to understand it.

2967
01:42:32,325 --> 01:42:33,135
I think that's great.

2968
01:42:33,585 --> 01:42:34,215
Hi mom.

2969
01:42:34,725 --> 01:42:37,515
Um, um, gotta throw that
one in for the homies.

2970
01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:37,755
Right.

2971
01:42:38,055 --> 01:42:42,795
But uh, yeah, you know, like for being
in Nevada my whole career, like I

2972
01:42:42,795 --> 01:42:44,445
wouldn't want to call anywhere else home.

2973
01:42:44,535 --> 01:42:45,645
Like yeah, this is home.

2974
01:42:46,425 --> 01:42:50,205
Uh, made some good friends along the
way and yeah, man, like I thought it

2975
01:42:50,205 --> 01:42:51,735
was a good, it's been a good week.

2976
01:42:52,635 --> 01:42:52,935
Oh yeah.

2977
01:42:53,025 --> 01:42:53,235
Yeah.

2978
01:42:53,745 --> 01:42:55,425
Tough losing to fuels people.

2979
01:42:55,425 --> 01:42:55,695
Yeah.

2980
01:42:55,695 --> 01:42:55,785
Boom.

2981
01:42:57,465 --> 01:42:58,965
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Come on Labunski, you're over the line.

2982
01:42:58,995 --> 01:42:59,385
I know, man.

2983
01:42:59,805 --> 01:43:01,215
Donny, Lisa, Lisa, Sarah from

2984
01:43:01,220 --> 01:43:01,575
Elliot Krinka: Elco.

2985
01:43:04,245 --> 01:43:05,235
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Well you guys got nothing else to

2986
01:43:05,235 --> 01:43:06,915
do out there, so it's no surprise.

2987
01:43:07,635 --> 01:43:08,205
I'm just kidding.

2988
01:43:10,485 --> 01:43:11,445
Um, yeah, thanks

2989
01:43:11,445 --> 01:43:12,225
Elliot Krinka: for bringing us on.

2990
01:43:12,465 --> 01:43:16,455
Uh, I think this fire program's headed
in the right direction from the top down.

2991
01:43:17,415 --> 01:43:20,565
Um, yeah, there's a reason
I've been in the state and.

2992
01:43:21,750 --> 01:43:23,370
For 18, 18 summers.

2993
01:43:23,370 --> 01:43:26,010
It's not just because I grew up in

2994
01:43:26,010 --> 01:43:27,990
Austin Lee: Elco, because you can't
find the way outta the confine.

2995
01:43:28,230 --> 01:43:28,510
Can't.

2996
01:43:28,530 --> 01:43:28,800
Yeah.

2997
01:43:29,610 --> 01:43:31,620
Elliot Krinka: Nobody's
told me how to quit yet.

2998
01:43:33,290 --> 01:43:33,750
Truett Anderson: No man.

2999
01:43:33,810 --> 01:43:36,510
Too deep committed.

3000
01:43:36,810 --> 01:43:37,470
You're committed.

3001
01:43:38,940 --> 01:43:39,210
Austin Lee: Yeah.

3002
01:43:39,215 --> 01:43:44,580
No, um, I think the biggest thing,
you know, I just wanna pass on,

3003
01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:48,480
you know, for anybody listening is
like, make sure that, uh, if you're

3004
01:43:48,485 --> 01:43:50,160
interested, get in contact with folks.

3005
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:54,120
But if you're in the job and just know
that there's always folks there to talk

3006
01:43:54,120 --> 01:43:57,810
to, whether it's, you know, personal,
you know, professional, whatever it

3007
01:43:57,810 --> 01:44:02,610
might be, just make sure you know how
to reach out and uh, and talk to those.

3008
01:44:02,610 --> 01:44:06,090
And if you haven't talked to your
friends in a while, your homies just,

3009
01:44:06,090 --> 01:44:07,800
yeah, give 'em a shout and check in.

3010
01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:10,860
Cuz man, that's, uh, something I've
learned over the last couple years

3011
01:44:10,865 --> 01:44:15,435
is really important, both for myself
and others, but, uh, Yeah, and just

3012
01:44:15,435 --> 01:44:19,005
plug it again if, if you're interested
in, uh, talking with anybody about

3013
01:44:19,005 --> 01:44:24,225
BM Nevada, Nevada fire info.org, and
we'll, uh, be happy to chat with you.

3014
01:44:24,285 --> 01:44:25,005
So thanks.

3015
01:44:25,365 --> 01:44:25,665
Anchor Point Podcast Host, Brandon Dunham:
Oh, yeah.

3016
01:44:25,845 --> 01:44:26,415
Well, thanks guys.

3017
01:44:26,415 --> 01:44:26,955
Appreciate it.

3018
01:44:27,615 --> 01:44:28,635
Let's move on to the next one.

3019
01:44:28,815 --> 01:44:29,085
Thank you.

3020
01:44:29,090 --> 01:44:29,435
Thanks.

3021
01:44:29,745 --> 01:44:29,835
Yep.

3022
01:44:29,895 --> 01:44:30,275
Thanks later guys.

3023
01:44:39,655 --> 01:44:41,085
And boom, there we go.

3024
01:44:41,085 --> 01:44:41,685
Ladies and gentlemen.

3025
01:44:41,715 --> 01:44:44,775
Another episode of the Anchor Point
podcast is in the books with my good

3026
01:44:44,775 --> 01:44:49,275
friends, Austin Lee, out of Winnemucca
Truet Anderson, out of Elie, Ellie

3027
01:44:49,365 --> 01:44:53,835
Cria, out of Elco, and Chris Weaver
out of the Carson City District,

3028
01:44:53,865 --> 01:44:55,785
BLM in the state of Nevada here.

3029
01:44:56,235 --> 01:44:59,145
Guys, thank you so much for being on
the show and sharing your insight.

3030
01:44:59,145 --> 01:45:03,765
And, uh, guess, uh, shedding a light
onto some of the little things that

3031
01:45:03,765 --> 01:45:07,245
the, uh, beer of line management does
here in Nevada with the engine program.

3032
01:45:07,605 --> 01:45:10,215
One of those things that are
pretty damn unique is that hover

3033
01:45:10,215 --> 01:45:14,250
fill operation that's, uh, Yeah,
yeah, I've done it a ton of times.

3034
01:45:14,250 --> 01:45:15,540
It's really effective.

3035
01:45:15,870 --> 01:45:17,790
Yeah, it's super cool.

3036
01:45:18,450 --> 01:45:23,280
But if you, uh, have some, uh, info that
you want to be answered while you can

3037
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:27,599
reach out to those folks, I'll, uh, drop
some information in the, uh, show notes

3038
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:33,360
and like, uh, I believe that was, uh,
cria saying that, but if you wanna find

3039
01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:38,370
out more, go to Nevada fire info.org
and you can get a wrap on everything.

3040
01:45:38,670 --> 01:45:40,170
BLM fire.

3041
01:45:40,290 --> 01:45:41,010
It's pretty awesome.

3042
01:45:41,160 --> 01:45:43,080
So hope everybody's doing well.

3043
01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:47,190
Hope everybody's geared up and ready
to get some for the, uh, 2023 season.

3044
01:45:47,280 --> 01:45:50,790
It looks like it's, uh, off
to a mediocre start, but we'll

3045
01:45:50,790 --> 01:45:52,590
see what the, uh, future holds.

3046
01:45:52,590 --> 01:45:56,130
I know we don't have a, uh,
crystal ball, but I wish we did,

3047
01:45:56,490 --> 01:45:57,630
but then it wouldn't be fun.

3048
01:45:58,049 --> 01:46:00,240
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01:46:47,309 --> 01:46:51,830
And then last but not least, Not really a
sponsor, but I totally love her mission.

3064
01:46:51,830 --> 01:46:55,370
We've got the wildfire experience,
the American wildfire experience,

3065
01:46:55,400 --> 01:46:58,100
aka a the Smokey generation.

3066
01:46:58,400 --> 01:47:01,310
So if you have a story, it's
compelling, submit your story, you

3067
01:47:01,310 --> 01:47:04,370
have an opportunity to win one of
those $500 grants to tell your story.

3068
01:47:04,375 --> 01:47:05,000
Pretty awesome.

3069
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:09,890
Go to www.wildfireexperience.org
and check it out.

3070
01:47:11,090 --> 01:47:11,750
Y'all know the drill.

3071
01:47:11,990 --> 01:47:13,130
Stay safe, stay savage.

3072
01:47:13,370 --> 01:47:13,880
Peace.