Kyle Lacy is the Chief Marketing Officer of Jellyfish—a platform that helps developers make data-backed decisions on resource investments. Across two decades he has built companies like Lessonly, Openview, Salesforce and ExactTarget. He’s also a husband and the father of two kids. In our conversation today we discussed:
* Managing work, life and parenting appropriately
* Handling stress across the different facets of your life
* Dispelling the myth about separation of ‘church and state’ between family and work
* Learning how to put your kids before yourself
* The role of nature vs. nurture in parenting
* The most important invention ever - the pee pee teepee
* How most parenting advice is complete crap
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Where to find Kyle Lacy
* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kylelacy
* X: https://x.com/kyleplacy
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In this episode, we cover:
[1:33] Welcome
[2:10] Kyle’s Professional background
[4:26] What life was like growing up
[6:12] Siblings
[6:24] Do your siblings have give you parenting advice?
[6:53] His family now and how he met his wife?
[9:06] Are his kids back to school?
[10:59] Decision to start a family
[12:34] Work/life balance
[15:27] Support network
[17:23] Separation of “church and state”
[19:58] Earliest memory after becoming a father?
[22:43] Dads and emotions
[24:11] Putting kids before yourself
[26:37] Surprising aspect of fatherhood
[28:18] Advice for younger Kyle?
[29:55] Advice to ignore?
[31:29] Fav book to read to kids
[32:14] Nature vs. Nurture
[33:27] Parenting frameworks
[35:29] How Kyle’s parenting style evolved
[38:02] Did parenting change you as a manager?
[40:53] When do he and his partner not align
[44:02] Kid’s relationship to tech
[47:42] Mistake as a father?
[48:33] Follow along
[50:11] Rapid fire
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Show references:
Jellyfish:https://jellyfish.co/
ExactTarget (now Salesforce): https://www.salesforce.com/
Lessonly (now Seismic): https://seismic.com/lessonly/
OpenView: https://openviewpartners.com/
Sam Richard LI: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sam-crowell-richard/
Sam Richar Twitter: @SamCRichard
Spokane, Washington: https://www.visittheusa.com/destination/spokane
Indianapolis, Indiana: https://www.visittheusa.com/destination/indianapolis
Anderson University: https://andersonuniversity.edu/
Twitter Marketing for Dummies: https://www.amazon.com/Twitter-Marketing-Dummies-Kyle-Lacy/dp/0470930578
Branding Yourself: How to Use Social Media to Invent or Reinvent Yourself
by Erik Deckers & Kyle Lacy: https://www.amazon.com/Branding-Yourself-Social-Reinvent-Biz-Tech/dp/0789749726
CodeSweep (now HCL Software): https://www.hcl-software.com/appscan/products/appscan-codesweep
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/
Orange Theory: https://www.orangetheory.com/en-us
Greenlight: https://greenlight.com/
Linda Flanagan Episode: youtube.com/watch?v=YLqEX8lZeFI
Pee pee tee pee: https://www.amazon.com/Peepee-Teepee-Sprinkling-WeeWee-Cellophane/dp/B000NM3DFY
What to Expect When You’re Expecting: https://www.amazon.com/What-Expect-When-Youre-Expecting/dp/0761187480
Boston, MA: https://www.boston.gov/
Calvin & Hobbes: https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Calvin-Hobbes-Bill-Watterson/dp/1449433251
Dogman: https://pilkey.com/series/dog-man
Gemstone Dragons: https://www.samanthamclark.com/gemstone-dragons/
Diary of a Wimpy Kid: https://wimpykid.com/
Big Nate: https://www.amazon.com/Lincoln-Popularity-Nothing-Possibly-Strikes/dp/0062968610
Crocs: https://www.crocs.com/
Jibbitz: https://www.crocs.com/c/jibbitz
Josh & Carla’s Episode: youtube.com/watch?v=YiaE6ZmaOIQ
New Balance white shoes: https://www.newbalance.com/men/shoes/all-shoes/
Nike: https://www.nike.com/
Bush’s beans: https://www.bushbeans.com/en_US/
The Anxious Generation: How the Great Rewiring of Childhood Is Causing an Epidemic of Mental Illness by Jonathan Haidt: https://www.amazon.com/Anxious-Generation-Rewiring-Childhood-Epidemic/dp/B0C9N2L56X/
Apple Vision pro: https://www.apple.com/apple-vision-pro/
Tesla: https://www.tesla.com/
iPad: https://www.apple.com/ipad/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/
Diaper Genie: https://diapergenie.com/
Colts: https://www.colts.com/
Corvette: https://www.chevrolet.com/upcoming-vehicles/2025-corvette-zr1
Pink Fong: https://www.pinkfong.com/en/
Baby Shark: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNVE4szbMrOZk9IheX8vHbQ
Home Alone: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099785/
Gettysburg: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107007/
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Adam Fishman (author of a top business newsletter on Substack with 11K+ subscribers) interviews executives, entrepreneurs, and company leaders in technology companies who are also fathers. They discuss the tough aspects of work, parenting, family, the mistakes made and lessons learned along the way. All episodes at www.startupdadpod.com.