WEBVTT Kind: captions Language: en-GB 00:00:08.340 --> 00:00:12.540 I'm Travis Bader and this it's the Silvercore Podcast. 00:00:13.979 --> 00:00:17.970 Silvercore has been providing its members with a skills and knowledge 00:00:18.030 --> 00:00:22.650 necessary to be confident and proficient in the outdoors for over 20 years. 00:00:22.680 --> 00:00:26.820 And we make it easier for people to deepen their connection to the natural world. 00:00:27.720 --> 00:00:32.970 If you enjoy the positive and educational content we provide, please let others 00:00:32.975 --> 00:00:37.830 know by sharing, commenting, and following so that you can join in on 00:00:37.830 --> 00:00:39.660 everything that Silvercore stands for. 00:00:40.710 --> 00:00:43.350 If you'd like to learn more about becoming a member of the 00:00:43.350 --> 00:00:48.680 Silvercore Club and community, visit our website at silvercore.ca 00:00:54.550 --> 00:00:57.420 so I'm joined today by a man who has a mission. 00:00:58.544 --> 00:00:59.745 2025. 00:01:00.165 --> 00:01:03.945 It's his goal to be able to run across Canada and break the 00:01:03.945 --> 00:01:05.625 world record for doing that. 00:01:06.465 --> 00:01:13.545 He's got a website it's such in motion.ca S a C H I N M OT IO, n.ca. 00:01:14.025 --> 00:01:19.275 He's raising money for honor house to raise awareness for PTSD and for veterans. 00:01:20.295 --> 00:01:23.225 Welcome to the Silvercore Podcast, Sachin Latti. 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:24.810 Thanks for having me brother. 00:01:24.810 --> 00:01:25.470 I appreciate it. 00:01:25.890 --> 00:01:26.970 Holy Crow. 00:01:27.385 --> 00:01:33.030 so I, I get this message from longtime supporter of Silvercore 00:01:33.030 --> 00:01:34.470 and the Silvercore Podcast,. 00:01:34.470 --> 00:01:35.460 Jared S Gaetti. 00:01:35.520 --> 00:01:35.670 Yep. 00:01:36.120 --> 00:01:40.860 So he works or worked up until recently at the range Langley Canada's largest 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:45.630 indoor range, and he sends a message over he's like, Travis, are you following 00:01:46.080 --> 00:01:50.310 the stories that Huon has on Instagram and I'm, and I'm in the middle of a 00:01:50.310 --> 00:01:54.180 few other things and I'm so I quickly, I go over to it and there's a slew 00:01:54.180 --> 00:01:56.940 of stories up and I go click, click, click, click, click, click, click. 00:01:56.945 --> 00:01:59.970 And one of 'em there's Jared wearing a Silvercore core hat and he's sitting 00:01:59.970 --> 00:02:01.590 down with you and I'm like, oh, okay. 00:02:01.590 --> 00:02:02.640 I guess that's what he's saying. 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:04.650 He's like, Hey, look at me, I'm wearing some swag. 00:02:04.650 --> 00:02:06.840 And so I'm texting back real quick. 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:07.800 I'm like, Hey, look at sharp. 00:02:08.670 --> 00:02:10.050 He's like, no, no, no, not me. 00:02:11.009 --> 00:02:11.520 Suchin. 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:13.680 Listen to what he has to say. 00:02:14.250 --> 00:02:17.910 So I started going through there, seeing what you're doing. 00:02:19.095 --> 00:02:21.255 Very very ambitious. 00:02:21.345 --> 00:02:27.435 So you've got 18 years in law enforcement and you're obviously very fit. 00:02:27.440 --> 00:02:29.595 You're looking, looking very fit. 00:02:29.865 --> 00:02:30.225 Thank you. 00:02:30.230 --> 00:02:30.915 Appreciate that. 00:02:32.175 --> 00:02:35.835 and you've got a number of runs that you've already gotten under your belt, 00:02:36.255 --> 00:02:40.365 uh, a hundred kilometers at a time, and you're building up to 2025 to do this 00:02:40.365 --> 00:02:43.425 rather ambitious run across Canada. 00:02:43.455 --> 00:02:46.485 So that'd be from Newfoundland Terry Fox statue over to 00:02:46.485 --> 00:02:48.345 Vancouver, Terry Fox statue. 00:02:49.095 --> 00:02:52.275 I think the current record on that is what? 00:02:52.275 --> 00:02:56.595 67 days, 10 hours in an undisclosure number of minutes by a guy 00:02:56.595 --> 00:02:57.645 by the name of Dave Proctor. 00:02:57.645 --> 00:02:57.705 Yeah. 00:02:57.735 --> 00:02:59.445 Exceptional guy named Dave Proctor. 00:02:59.535 --> 00:03:00.315 Have you talked with him? 00:03:00.375 --> 00:03:00.975 I have not. 00:03:01.035 --> 00:03:02.865 I have a few friends that have okay. 00:03:03.195 --> 00:03:09.585 And they've nothing but glowing, um, comments about the guy, right. 00:03:09.645 --> 00:03:11.145 And like a awesome person. 00:03:11.655 --> 00:03:15.989 Um, Just a, a good person, like a nice person. 00:03:16.500 --> 00:03:20.220 Well, Jared was thinking, he says, you know, everything you're trying 00:03:20.220 --> 00:03:23.549 to do with the Silvercore Podcast, you're trying to spread positivity, 00:03:23.579 --> 00:03:28.320 raise awareness, uh, people who enjoy the outside world as you do. 00:03:28.320 --> 00:03:31.200 I mean, running's not an indoor activity unless you get a treadmill, right. 00:03:31.560 --> 00:03:31.799 yeah. 00:03:31.799 --> 00:03:32.549 And it's not as fun. 00:03:32.700 --> 00:03:39.600 No, what, what culminated, what, what caused this spark in you to, to light? 00:03:41.279 --> 00:03:44.250 That's a long story and it's a good question for sure. 00:03:44.369 --> 00:03:50.570 Um, I'd say it probably all started right before the pandemic kicked. 00:03:50.570 --> 00:03:50.969 Okay. 00:03:51.570 --> 00:03:53.790 So I was going up, I was married. 00:03:54.239 --> 00:03:54.510 Okay. 00:03:54.690 --> 00:04:01.620 And, uh, I was going through a separation and divorce and I would say I was probably 00:04:01.620 --> 00:04:03.209 the squeaky wheel in that marriage. 00:04:03.359 --> 00:04:03.450 Mm. 00:04:04.410 --> 00:04:10.109 So it, it, it, um, it caused me to unplug and reflect on a lot 00:04:10.109 --> 00:04:11.790 of things that I contributed to. 00:04:12.299 --> 00:04:17.100 mm-hmm and I came to the realization that I wanted to just be a better person. 00:04:17.579 --> 00:04:17.820 Okay. 00:04:17.969 --> 00:04:19.920 And be a better person for everyone around me. 00:04:19.980 --> 00:04:21.750 So that's what started things. 00:04:22.140 --> 00:04:22.170 Okay. 00:04:22.170 --> 00:04:27.630 In terms of like, just wanting to have a better, more positive outlook on things. 00:04:28.140 --> 00:04:34.530 So I gotta imagine that there is gonna be a gradual decline in 00:04:34.590 --> 00:04:37.020 your outlook on life at that time. 00:04:37.020 --> 00:04:39.240 I mean that it's gonna take its toll. 00:04:39.330 --> 00:04:40.440 And it's funny. 00:04:40.710 --> 00:04:46.730 I, we were talking about this earlier, before the podcast that for a podcast 00:04:47.039 --> 00:04:51.210 of deals with, uh, hunting, fishing, outdoors people, and businesses 00:04:51.210 --> 00:04:53.940 that comprised community, how many. 00:04:54.900 --> 00:04:57.930 Times mental health comes up in just our discussions. 00:04:57.930 --> 00:05:02.970 And I don't think it's an unusual thing to what I'm doing here on the podcast. 00:05:03.540 --> 00:05:07.560 I think everybody's dealing with something to one degree or another, and I think the, 00:05:07.950 --> 00:05:12.570 uh, pandemic and the stressors associated with that have helped amplify that. 00:05:13.830 --> 00:05:14.910 Where were you at? 00:05:14.910 --> 00:05:15.300 Like what? 00:05:15.510 --> 00:05:15.990 Oh man. 00:05:17.250 --> 00:05:18.090 holy moly. 00:05:18.330 --> 00:05:19.410 Uh, worst time of my life. 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:19.890 Yeah. 00:05:19.920 --> 00:05:21.690 Mentally for sure. 00:05:22.110 --> 00:05:25.350 Because I was, I was presented with what kind of person I was. 00:05:25.710 --> 00:05:26.040 Mm. 00:05:26.400 --> 00:05:27.510 And I wasn't happy with that. 00:05:27.630 --> 00:05:32.220 So, I mean, look, the reality was I wasn't, I thought I was a good husband. 00:05:32.225 --> 00:05:32.520 Mm. 00:05:33.330 --> 00:05:37.380 You know, I was doing, going through the motions, doing, you know, paying 00:05:37.380 --> 00:05:39.660 the bills, taking care of my, do all these, these types of things. 00:05:39.930 --> 00:05:40.020 Sure. 00:05:40.590 --> 00:05:48.450 But I wasn't engaged into the marriage and good or bad. 00:05:48.480 --> 00:05:50.760 I stepped out on various occasions and. 00:05:52.935 --> 00:05:55.245 And my ex-wife didn't deserve any of those things. 00:05:55.245 --> 00:05:56.625 She was, she's a good person. 00:05:57.435 --> 00:05:58.215 Awesome mother. 00:05:58.875 --> 00:06:03.435 And, um, I felt extremely terrible because I'm not that guy. 00:06:03.465 --> 00:06:06.525 And I was, I, I started asking myself question, what's what's going on here? 00:06:06.525 --> 00:06:10.065 Why, why am I self-destructive? 00:06:10.094 --> 00:06:13.364 And that was just one element of the self directive behavior. 00:06:13.364 --> 00:06:18.195 I had many, many, many other ones , you know, I think we all 00:06:18.195 --> 00:06:21.344 do this some degree or another don't we, and you gotta question. 00:06:21.344 --> 00:06:21.974 Why is that? 00:06:22.185 --> 00:06:25.965 What, what is it that draws a person in to be self-destructive? 00:06:26.025 --> 00:06:27.705 Yeah, like, I guess not everybody's like that. 00:06:27.710 --> 00:06:32.275 Some people are really good at being able to identify and some people, certain 00:06:32.895 --> 00:06:36.974 paths start going down and they have a hard time stopping regrouping, turning 00:06:36.974 --> 00:06:38.625 around and picking a different path. 00:06:38.684 --> 00:06:41.924 Mm-hmm well, for me, my ego was outta control. 00:06:42.224 --> 00:06:42.615 Mm. 00:06:43.125 --> 00:06:46.125 I had a self, no, I had a inflated ego. 00:06:46.635 --> 00:06:46.934 Mm. 00:06:47.205 --> 00:06:53.010 And an ego that, um, What was it my self worth and self confidence, all 00:06:53.010 --> 00:06:57.000 these things were not really where they should have been or at least 00:06:57.000 --> 00:06:58.380 where I would've wanted them to be. 00:06:58.650 --> 00:06:58.979 Right. 00:06:59.039 --> 00:07:02.820 And so I inflated my ego to a degree that was like, holy 00:07:02.820 --> 00:07:04.289 moly, this is outta control ego. 00:07:04.950 --> 00:07:07.140 I thought it was the, I thought I knew everything. 00:07:07.530 --> 00:07:08.940 Kinda like a protective mechanism. 00:07:09.179 --> 00:07:10.109 Yeah, absolutely. 00:07:10.320 --> 00:07:13.020 You just absolutely put the armor up and can't be hurt. 00:07:13.429 --> 00:07:15.869 And, and that's how I function throughout my entire life. 00:07:15.960 --> 00:07:18.059 Mm-hmm and actually I was talking to a friend of mine, Sean Taylor. 00:07:18.330 --> 00:07:18.570 Yeah. 00:07:18.570 --> 00:07:19.679 And, and he was, we know Sean. 00:07:19.770 --> 00:07:20.010 Yeah. 00:07:20.010 --> 00:07:23.849 Well, he's more than a friend for me, but he was mentioning to me that, 00:07:24.580 --> 00:07:29.280 um, Your, you know, he was straight up, told me your ego's inflated. 00:07:29.670 --> 00:07:33.150 And, um, you've just never been challenged throughout your entire life. 00:07:33.150 --> 00:07:36.210 And you've kind of navigated through that and it's actually protected you 00:07:36.210 --> 00:07:38.010 and, you know, et cetera, cetera, cetera. 00:07:38.070 --> 00:07:38.420 Mm. 00:07:38.730 --> 00:07:40.710 So anyways, long story is short. 00:07:40.715 --> 00:07:46.170 I, um, I didn't really know how to kind of get out of the mud mess that I created. 00:07:46.470 --> 00:07:47.940 And like, I, I was just stuck in it. 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:52.410 Like I was, I was, I was stuck. 00:07:52.530 --> 00:07:52.860 Right. 00:07:53.700 --> 00:07:57.780 And, um, I didn't have any idea how to get out of it. 00:07:58.080 --> 00:08:03.000 So I had no at the time I didn't really have any safe spaces either. 00:08:03.210 --> 00:08:04.590 So like in terms of where I was living. 00:08:04.590 --> 00:08:07.140 So when we were going through the divorce, it was during the pandemic 00:08:07.140 --> 00:08:08.160 and we had a basement suite. 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:10.410 So we didn't want anyone else to rent it because they could 00:08:10.410 --> 00:08:11.640 squat and blah, blah, blah. 00:08:11.640 --> 00:08:11.850 Right. 00:08:12.810 --> 00:08:15.690 So I ended up moving into the basin suite of the house that I bought with 00:08:15.690 --> 00:08:21.330 my ex-wife and was paying rent for two years with my daughter living upstairs. 00:08:21.330 --> 00:08:24.930 And I, you know, You know, it just was an uncomfortable environment to 00:08:24.930 --> 00:08:26.970 be in for a long duration of time. 00:08:27.270 --> 00:08:32.220 And at that time I was also working obviously, and the pandemic was in a full 00:08:32.220 --> 00:08:37.860 effect and our workplace was doing a sort of, um, a work rotation where not everyone 00:08:37.860 --> 00:08:39.450 would be in the workplace all the time. 00:08:39.510 --> 00:08:41.850 So you would be on work for a couple weeks and then you would 00:08:41.850 --> 00:08:44.220 work from home for a couple weeks or like things of that nature. 00:08:44.220 --> 00:08:44.640 Right. 00:08:44.640 --> 00:08:44.730 Right. 00:08:45.120 --> 00:08:45.330 So. 00:08:46.125 --> 00:08:47.865 I'd be sitting at home, I'd be in the basement suite. 00:08:47.865 --> 00:08:52.275 I'd be by myself the entire time and I wasn't going out and I was starting 00:08:52.275 --> 00:08:56.564 to wallow and really get really deeper and deeper and deeper into the 00:08:56.564 --> 00:08:58.935 toxic thinking that I was in mm-hmm 00:08:59.265 --> 00:09:04.185 And, um, at that time I, you know, I was still working out, was still working. 00:09:04.189 --> 00:09:07.574 I was still doing everything, but I was keeping it together 00:09:07.574 --> 00:09:09.194 just by the skin of my teeth. 00:09:09.405 --> 00:09:09.735 Right. 00:09:09.795 --> 00:09:10.335 You know what I mean? 00:09:10.335 --> 00:09:15.194 And, uh, you know, I, I hadn't started running at this point yet 00:09:15.285 --> 00:09:17.265 and I had started buying some books. 00:09:17.295 --> 00:09:18.435 I wasn't a huge reader. 00:09:18.645 --> 00:09:18.944 Okay. 00:09:19.875 --> 00:09:21.465 Actually, I wasn't a reader. 00:09:21.525 --> 00:09:26.564 I mean, I'd really like, not like, not like I would imagine you or Sean Taylor 00:09:26.564 --> 00:09:28.425 or a sub of war, these types of people. 00:09:28.785 --> 00:09:33.855 Um, I, no, I wasn't, you know, I'll tell you a secret, uh, on reading. 00:09:34.635 --> 00:09:37.785 I don't know if it's a byproduct of the ADHD or what I've got about 00:09:37.785 --> 00:09:39.885 30 books on the go right now. 00:09:40.455 --> 00:09:44.715 Not one of them is finished and not all of them are started in chapter one. 00:09:45.075 --> 00:09:45.345 right. 00:09:45.405 --> 00:09:47.085 It's just all through there. 00:09:47.085 --> 00:09:50.865 And I go real quick, try and find what's going to keep that interest. 00:09:50.870 --> 00:09:51.705 Where's the value. 00:09:51.710 --> 00:09:55.125 And then the second that kind of WANs I'm onto the next one. 00:09:55.125 --> 00:09:59.535 And at some point I'm sure I'll complete them all, but, uh, yeah. 00:09:59.564 --> 00:10:00.885 Well, I'm kind of like that now. 00:10:00.885 --> 00:10:01.155 Okay. 00:10:01.215 --> 00:10:02.055 I'm kinda like that now. 00:10:02.145 --> 00:10:02.385 Yeah. 00:10:02.655 --> 00:10:05.265 So I have about, I don't have that many books on my, on my table, 00:10:05.270 --> 00:10:06.495 but I have 'em on my coffee table. 00:10:06.495 --> 00:10:07.815 I've got about 10 or 15 books there. 00:10:07.845 --> 00:10:08.205 Right. 00:10:08.235 --> 00:10:10.125 And in the morning when I have coffee, I'll just grab one and 00:10:10.125 --> 00:10:11.325 just kind of peruse through it. 00:10:11.745 --> 00:10:14.955 And depending on what I'm feeling at the moment, I might just stick 00:10:14.955 --> 00:10:17.444 with like lately it's been a mental health book I've been reading. 00:10:17.715 --> 00:10:17.985 Okay. 00:10:18.045 --> 00:10:20.355 Um, just stick my mood, whatever it is. 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:20.925 I'll just pick it up. 00:10:21.135 --> 00:10:23.745 But not having said that I, at that time when I was going 00:10:23.745 --> 00:10:25.125 through all the mass, yeah. 00:10:25.245 --> 00:10:26.535 I was like, shit, man, what do gotta do? 00:10:26.745 --> 00:10:31.360 So I, I, I went and I'm, uh, all in type of fellow. 00:10:31.510 --> 00:10:31.720 Right. 00:10:31.780 --> 00:10:35.290 I, I, you strike me as an all in type of fellow and, uh, I 00:10:35.410 --> 00:10:36.910 obsess and, and things like that. 00:10:36.910 --> 00:10:40.060 And so I went on a rabbit hole with Jordan Peterson for a while. 00:10:40.180 --> 00:10:40.420 Okay. 00:10:40.870 --> 00:10:45.699 And, um, and then I went on rabbit hole with jock welling for a while. 00:10:45.760 --> 00:10:46.060 Mm. 00:10:46.449 --> 00:10:49.120 And then I, uh, picked up extreme ownership and I read that. 00:10:49.210 --> 00:10:49.699 Okay. 00:10:49.870 --> 00:10:52.930 And, um, so after reading that book, I took some ownership of a 00:10:52.930 --> 00:10:57.490 few things in my life and, um, I wanted to own my responsibility 00:10:57.495 --> 00:10:59.140 and the marriage and what I did. 00:10:59.740 --> 00:11:01.030 So we had a nice house. 00:11:01.060 --> 00:11:05.439 I didn't, I didn't, um, I wanted my daughter to have a nice house too. 00:11:05.650 --> 00:11:05.950 Right. 00:11:06.460 --> 00:11:10.810 So, you know, my ex-wife and my daughter in the house, and 00:11:10.810 --> 00:11:11.829 I'm happy that they're there. 00:11:12.400 --> 00:11:15.015 Um, Financially. 00:11:15.015 --> 00:11:18.435 It didn't work out for me in that regard, but mm-hmm, , I'm absolutely 00:11:18.465 --> 00:11:23.625 ecstatic on how it turned out now, after a couple years have passed now. 00:11:23.625 --> 00:11:23.925 Okay. 00:11:23.985 --> 00:11:25.395 Um, so I read extreme ownership. 00:11:25.455 --> 00:11:25.515 Yeah. 00:11:25.520 --> 00:11:26.565 So I, I own that. 00:11:27.375 --> 00:11:30.855 And then, um, you know, I read a few more books and then I picked up can't 00:11:30.855 --> 00:11:35.055 hurt me, uh, Goggins book, David Goggins it, and sorry to interrupt 00:11:35.055 --> 00:11:40.005 here, but isn't it funny how your life can completely change a second? 00:11:40.005 --> 00:11:43.575 You own, whatever it is that's happening to you. 00:11:43.665 --> 00:11:46.545 Mm-hmm like we were talking about something earlier before the podcast 00:11:46.575 --> 00:11:49.275 and you're like, oh, I'm really sorry that, uh, that happened. 00:11:49.275 --> 00:11:49.845 I said why? 00:11:50.475 --> 00:11:55.065 And once you're able to fully own whatever it is, that's happening to 00:11:55.065 --> 00:11:56.565 you, you author your own destiny. 00:11:56.925 --> 00:11:57.315 Yeah. 00:11:57.645 --> 00:12:01.755 Well, I'm, I'm, I'm experiencing that in real time. 00:12:02.400 --> 00:12:02.760 Cool. 00:12:03.210 --> 00:12:03.510 Right. 00:12:03.510 --> 00:12:08.430 So like, even in this conversation, I might have a revelation or come to a 00:12:08.430 --> 00:12:11.430 realization of something, cuz that's been happening to me regularly when I 00:12:11.430 --> 00:12:13.770 speak to people mm-hmm and I see things. 00:12:14.625 --> 00:12:17.595 When I start talking, I start realizing things in that moment. 00:12:17.595 --> 00:12:21.195 Sometimes we are connected in a very interesting way, humans. 00:12:21.195 --> 00:12:25.275 That is I've, I'm learning that more and more, the more podcasts we do there, 00:12:25.275 --> 00:12:28.935 there's an interconnectivity to these different things that, uh, I don't think 00:12:28.935 --> 00:12:33.675 is by happenstance or coincidence, and is probably very likely due to how we 00:12:33.675 --> 00:12:38.055 start changing our outlooks and how we start, uh, comporting ourselves and 00:12:38.145 --> 00:12:42.165 thinking mm-hmm and you find that birds of a feather start to flock together 00:12:42.165 --> 00:12:44.265 and your, your circles tend to change. 00:12:44.265 --> 00:12:50.415 And you're how you're able to actually affect what happens to you in real time. 00:12:50.415 --> 00:12:53.895 Like you're saying becomes very tangible mm-hmm and I agree a 00:12:53.895 --> 00:12:57.975 hundred percent I'm and I'm seeing that I'm experiencing it right now. 00:12:58.485 --> 00:13:00.555 Um, my circle is, is changing. 00:13:00.585 --> 00:13:03.405 My friends of 18 years are no longer around me. 00:13:03.585 --> 00:13:03.825 Mm. 00:13:03.885 --> 00:13:06.675 And, and no negativity to anybody. 00:13:06.675 --> 00:13:09.165 It's just, just the way the reality is, you know, change. 00:13:09.195 --> 00:13:09.375 Yeah. 00:13:09.375 --> 00:13:11.415 People change, evolve, and move in different directions 00:13:11.415 --> 00:13:12.495 and some change with you. 00:13:12.870 --> 00:13:14.189 Some don't that's okay. 00:13:14.400 --> 00:13:17.730 And I think on the path that I'm on, most people, uh, I don't know, like 00:13:17.730 --> 00:13:21.240 it's, it might be a lonely journey for a couple more years for me. 00:13:21.300 --> 00:13:22.410 I suspect, I don't know. 00:13:22.439 --> 00:13:25.380 It's, it's all uncertain to be honest. 00:13:25.620 --> 00:13:25.900 Sure. 00:13:26.400 --> 00:13:30.689 Anyway, so I, I, I was reading that Goggins book, full disclosure. 00:13:30.689 --> 00:13:34.770 I read the first two chapters and I didn't finish it, but I got enough 00:13:34.770 --> 00:13:36.390 what I wanted out of it at that moment. 00:13:36.449 --> 00:13:36.750 Right. 00:13:36.959 --> 00:13:41.069 And, uh, what I got out of it was like, well resonated with me cuz some of the 00:13:41.069 --> 00:13:42.689 experiences that he had as a child. 00:13:42.870 --> 00:13:43.140 Mm. 00:13:43.290 --> 00:13:49.620 And then, um, resonated with me cuz I, I, my ego was very inflated. 00:13:49.650 --> 00:13:50.130 Right. 00:13:50.459 --> 00:13:53.370 And I was like, ah, yeah, I, I fashioned myself. 00:13:53.430 --> 00:13:55.469 I thought I was an individual like that. 00:13:55.469 --> 00:13:58.140 And like, I wanted to be something like that and right. 00:13:58.500 --> 00:14:02.310 And um, so I was like, okay, so what do I not like to do? 00:14:02.370 --> 00:14:07.140 And, um, I don't like running and I hadn't ran since high school. 00:14:07.770 --> 00:14:08.520 I'm 44. 00:14:08.520 --> 00:14:10.230 Now last time I ran was. 00:14:10.785 --> 00:14:12.405 When I was 17, 18 years old. 00:14:12.435 --> 00:14:12.795 Sure. 00:14:13.125 --> 00:14:15.045 And, um, so I was like, okay, cool. 00:14:15.075 --> 00:14:16.755 And I was a bodybuilder too before, right. 00:14:16.755 --> 00:14:18.375 So I was lifting lots of weight back in the day. 00:14:18.495 --> 00:14:18.705 Yeah. 00:14:18.765 --> 00:14:21.855 And I was, I just, I was doing, and for five or six years, 00:14:21.855 --> 00:14:22.815 I've been training jujitsu. 00:14:22.815 --> 00:14:26.175 So I thought my Cardi was decent, so I never really ran mm-hmm and, 00:14:26.180 --> 00:14:31.365 um, so I, I started, uh, I just, I didn't have any frame of reference 00:14:31.635 --> 00:14:32.775 I didn't know what I was doing. 00:14:33.045 --> 00:14:36.165 And I, as an individual myself, I don't connect with people often. 00:14:36.165 --> 00:14:37.215 I haven't in the past. 00:14:37.220 --> 00:14:37.365 Right. 00:14:37.370 --> 00:14:39.615 Mm-hmm that was just a really, like, I had friends. 00:14:39.645 --> 00:14:39.885 Sure. 00:14:39.935 --> 00:14:41.085 But, but it you're an individual. 00:14:41.115 --> 00:14:41.385 Yeah. 00:14:41.655 --> 00:14:42.105 That's okay. 00:14:42.105 --> 00:14:42.345 Yeah. 00:14:42.525 --> 00:14:46.589 And, and, um, so I scheduled myself to do like three, five Ks a week. 00:14:46.709 --> 00:14:48.480 Mm-hmm like Monday, Wednesday, Friday kind of thing. 00:14:48.930 --> 00:14:51.900 And you know, again, I had no frame of reference. 00:14:51.900 --> 00:14:56.220 My times were what they were and they weren't exceptional or anything, but 00:14:56.220 --> 00:15:00.600 I didn't know what was exceptional it was like 35, 40 minutes for a 5k. 00:15:00.630 --> 00:15:01.079 Okay. 00:15:01.140 --> 00:15:01.560 Whatever. 00:15:01.560 --> 00:15:01.650 Sure. 00:15:01.860 --> 00:15:02.160 Right. 00:15:02.189 --> 00:15:02.339 Yeah. 00:15:02.640 --> 00:15:05.069 And, um, but I, I stuck with it. 00:15:05.430 --> 00:15:07.290 Um, I don't know why I stuck with it. 00:15:07.709 --> 00:15:08.459 I just did 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:11.579 Was it difficult to stick to, or it was extremely difficult. 00:15:11.640 --> 00:15:12.000 Okay. 00:15:12.060 --> 00:15:12.959 I wasn't a runner. 00:15:13.290 --> 00:15:15.600 And, um, do you think that might be why you stuck with it? 00:15:18.870 --> 00:15:19.650 That's a good question. 00:15:19.655 --> 00:15:20.610 Let me think about that. 00:15:24.870 --> 00:15:25.140 Yeah. 00:15:25.140 --> 00:15:26.490 There's a possibility of that. 00:15:26.490 --> 00:15:30.660 I think because I didn't, I I've never quit anything physical. 00:15:30.900 --> 00:15:31.290 Sure. 00:15:31.860 --> 00:15:33.630 Physically I've never quit anything. 00:15:33.780 --> 00:15:34.079 Right. 00:15:34.439 --> 00:15:36.780 And, um, so there, maybe there's an element of that. 00:15:36.870 --> 00:15:42.780 And, and I, it, I saw it as a problem and I was trying to solve the problem. 00:15:42.900 --> 00:15:46.020 So, like, for example, let's say for example, I'm running and my, my 00:15:46.949 --> 00:15:49.920 glutes are tighter than normal and I don't know what's going on here. 00:15:49.925 --> 00:15:51.209 And so I'll problem solve it. 00:15:51.209 --> 00:15:51.510 Okay. 00:15:51.600 --> 00:15:54.510 Maybe instead of quitting, I would say, okay, maybe I need to do 00:15:54.510 --> 00:15:56.189 this to help relieve that issue. 00:15:56.610 --> 00:15:57.840 Mm, just kind of problem solve it. 00:15:57.990 --> 00:15:58.320 Right. 00:15:58.320 --> 00:15:59.820 And it, and I kept doing that. 00:15:59.940 --> 00:16:02.160 And so, but mind you again, no clue. 00:16:02.160 --> 00:16:06.240 So I would first ran with like a 10 pair, 10 year old pair of shoes. 00:16:06.240 --> 00:16:06.540 Right. 00:16:07.050 --> 00:16:10.500 And then, and I kept, I was using those shoes for the first couple months. 00:16:10.530 --> 00:16:10.890 Right. 00:16:10.895 --> 00:16:11.880 And they were 10 years old. 00:16:11.940 --> 00:16:12.300 Yeah. 00:16:12.480 --> 00:16:14.520 Now that might sound normal for everyone, but it's absolutely 00:16:14.520 --> 00:16:15.970 not, not, not for a runner. 00:16:15.970 --> 00:16:17.650 No, no, absolutely not. 00:16:17.650 --> 00:16:22.590 So I, I started in, uh, within about two months and I'm a goal type of guy mm-hmm 00:16:22.650 --> 00:16:26.490 so I like setting, uh, goals all the time. 00:16:27.030 --> 00:16:31.380 And um, so I set a goal for me in right at the beginning and I was like, okay, 00:16:31.385 --> 00:16:33.360 I wanna be able be able to run 21 K. 00:16:33.900 --> 00:16:39.030 Um, now, so, um, I went and ran 21. 00:16:39.480 --> 00:16:42.000 It wasn't pretty, it was, it was pretty ugly. 00:16:42.120 --> 00:16:42.390 Yeah. 00:16:42.690 --> 00:16:46.950 And after I'd done that, and as you can imagine, going through the 00:16:46.950 --> 00:16:50.760 divorce separation, my self esteem, my confidence, my self worth, all the things 00:16:50.760 --> 00:16:54.960 were in the dumps mm-hmm and I felt like a piece of garbage to be honest. 00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:55.050 Sure. 00:16:55.280 --> 00:16:55.650 I can see that. 00:16:56.220 --> 00:16:59.550 And, um, you know, I was really alone. 00:16:59.550 --> 00:17:01.740 Cause most of my friends weren't really engaging with me and didn't 00:17:01.829 --> 00:17:02.819 really kind of understand me. 00:17:02.819 --> 00:17:06.119 So I was, you know, I was running and I was doing these things and I ran this 21 00:17:06.125 --> 00:17:12.089 K and um, I felt really good about doing that and made me feel good about myself. 00:17:12.180 --> 00:17:12.510 Right. 00:17:12.510 --> 00:17:14.639 Cause I did something that no one told me to do. 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:16.290 No one forced me to do it. 00:17:16.530 --> 00:17:20.099 I got up and did it and something that I never thought in a 00:17:20.105 --> 00:17:21.690 million years I would even do. 00:17:22.619 --> 00:17:23.700 And that gave me something. 00:17:24.359 --> 00:17:25.290 But that wasn't enough. 00:17:25.319 --> 00:17:27.869 No, it. 00:17:27.875 --> 00:17:32.310 Wasn't I, you know, as we're going through here, I, I, I have a question 00:17:32.460 --> 00:17:37.290 that I, the second that I started looking at what you're doing, I'm 00:17:37.290 --> 00:17:38.520 gonna save it for a little bit. 00:17:38.550 --> 00:17:38.730 Okay. 00:17:38.790 --> 00:17:41.040 Because you've got a story here that you're telling and 00:17:41.040 --> 00:17:42.810 it's very, it's interesting. 00:17:42.810 --> 00:17:45.600 Like you were talking before about a, the hero's journey. 00:17:45.629 --> 00:17:45.870 Yeah. 00:17:46.050 --> 00:17:46.320 Right. 00:17:46.325 --> 00:17:47.220 I, I remember I. 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:50.550 Joseph Conrad referencing the hero's journey. 00:17:50.550 --> 00:17:51.240 And what did he write? 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:51.990 Hearted darkness. 00:17:51.995 --> 00:17:55.530 Mm-hmm , uh, star wars mm-hmm is based on the hero's journey. 00:17:55.590 --> 00:17:58.380 So, so many different things are, are based on the hero's journey. 00:17:58.380 --> 00:18:01.410 And what you're telling right now is it is very similar. 00:18:01.410 --> 00:18:02.910 It's very similar, extremely similar. 00:18:03.390 --> 00:18:07.350 And, um, and I didn't even know that it was even like, I, I didn't know, 00:18:07.350 --> 00:18:10.140 hero's journey was even a term until I started reading and I talked, 00:18:10.140 --> 00:18:11.250 started talking to my friend, Sean. 00:18:11.430 --> 00:18:11.640 Yeah. 00:18:11.820 --> 00:18:15.810 And, um, so, uh, yeah, I did that and I was like, oh cool. 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:19.201 And there's also, you know, stories behind me doing it, but mm-hmm , I 00:18:19.206 --> 00:18:22.290 mean, it's, I don't wanna get in the weeds about that kind of stuff, but the 00:18:22.290 --> 00:18:24.750 21 K it, it drove me and I did that. 00:18:24.750 --> 00:18:26.640 And then I said, I wanted to set more goals. 00:18:26.700 --> 00:18:26.940 Okay. 00:18:27.090 --> 00:18:29.070 And I wanted to achieve higher, higher goals. 00:18:29.070 --> 00:18:33.000 And, um, so I just kept kind of grinding it out. 00:18:33.689 --> 00:18:37.760 Jujitsu had, uh, because of the pandemic jujitsu was . Right. 00:18:38.070 --> 00:18:42.870 So then I took another dive because, um, as you can imagine, or some of your 00:18:42.870 --> 00:18:46.169 listeners might understand that, uh, when you're dealing with some mental health 00:18:46.169 --> 00:18:50.370 issues, depression, or whatever, the thing is, um, connection is an, an extremely 00:18:50.370 --> 00:18:54.870 important piece connecting with people not being alone and jujitsu was that for 00:18:54.875 --> 00:18:58.110 me and I, when I was going to jujitsu, even though I wasn't hanging out with my 00:18:58.110 --> 00:19:02.100 friends or anything like that, jujitsu was that for me mm-hmm and I would, I 00:19:02.100 --> 00:19:05.550 would go hang out with my, my friends, my partners, and training partners. 00:19:05.820 --> 00:19:08.879 And, um, I would connect with them and that was taken 00:19:08.879 --> 00:19:10.350 away because of the pandemic. 00:19:10.350 --> 00:19:12.300 And that was a hot mess for me. 00:19:12.750 --> 00:19:16.679 I broke down, um, like cry, like, I mean, I was crying like. 00:19:17.594 --> 00:19:23.205 Like legitimately, like just broke down and based on the lack of social 00:19:23.235 --> 00:19:27.375 human connection, I was, man, it got to a point where I was so alone. 00:19:27.645 --> 00:19:29.475 I just wanted to hug somebody. 00:19:29.745 --> 00:19:30.074 Yeah. 00:19:30.405 --> 00:19:34.784 Like, honestly, man, like just thinking about it, it makes me feel not good. 00:19:35.264 --> 00:19:35.685 I hear it. 00:19:35.689 --> 00:19:37.784 I, I, uh, I would call a friend of mine. 00:19:37.935 --> 00:19:40.185 I, Hey, can I just come over for a hug or something? 00:19:40.185 --> 00:19:44.385 Like, I like, that's how fricking terrible I was feeling. 00:19:44.655 --> 00:19:45.014 Right. 00:19:45.135 --> 00:19:47.475 And, um, man. 00:19:47.625 --> 00:19:49.395 Yeah, it was, it, it was rough go. 00:19:49.514 --> 00:19:55.544 And um, so anyways, I, I, like I said, I set goals mm-hmm and I listened to 00:19:55.544 --> 00:19:59.084 podcast and I was trying to learn as much as I could from different areas. 00:19:59.084 --> 00:20:03.165 And like most people, a lot of people listen to Joe Rogan's podcast or some 00:20:03.165 --> 00:20:06.225 people anyway, and I was listening to his, I heard he is got a podcast. 00:20:06.225 --> 00:20:06.705 It's pretty good. 00:20:06.709 --> 00:20:07.995 I've heard it's alright. 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:08.745 Is it popular? 00:20:09.104 --> 00:20:09.675 It's decent. 00:20:10.574 --> 00:20:13.514 he had this kind of cool guy on there that I was listening to Cameron Haynes. 00:20:13.520 --> 00:20:13.824 Yeah. 00:20:13.830 --> 00:20:14.175 Yeah. 00:20:14.264 --> 00:20:18.149 And, um, And I've obviously heard campaigns quite a 00:20:18.149 --> 00:20:19.350 few times on his podcast. 00:20:19.469 --> 00:20:21.750 Mm-hmm , but this particular moment kind of really stuck with 00:20:21.830 --> 00:20:23.469 me because he's in his fifties. 00:20:23.475 --> 00:20:26.820 And when he is training for an ultra, he's running a marathon a day and I 00:20:26.820 --> 00:20:29.520 was like, forget that I can do that. 00:20:29.580 --> 00:20:30.000 Yeah. 00:20:30.510 --> 00:20:32.340 Or why can't I do that? 00:20:32.580 --> 00:20:33.989 Well, one man, be able to do that. 00:20:34.169 --> 00:20:35.610 Well, one man can do another can do. 00:20:35.760 --> 00:20:36.149 Right. 00:20:36.149 --> 00:20:37.080 So that's what I was thinking. 00:20:37.080 --> 00:20:37.350 Right. 00:20:37.354 --> 00:20:37.429 Right. 00:20:37.435 --> 00:20:40.830 So like, it, it was, if I didn't know, that was a thing I wouldn't even know. 00:20:40.889 --> 00:20:41.459 It was a thing. 00:20:41.699 --> 00:20:42.090 Okay. 00:20:42.149 --> 00:20:42.389 Yeah. 00:20:42.449 --> 00:20:45.270 So now I know it's a thing I brought it on the radar. 00:20:45.300 --> 00:20:45.600 Yeah. 00:20:45.629 --> 00:20:46.110 Basically. 00:20:46.110 --> 00:20:46.169 Yeah. 00:20:46.350 --> 00:20:49.110 And, and, um, so I was like, okay, how do I do that? 00:20:49.830 --> 00:20:53.969 How do I get myself to run 42 K a day? 00:20:55.080 --> 00:20:55.320 Okay. 00:20:55.320 --> 00:20:56.129 Let me think about it. 00:20:56.250 --> 00:20:59.850 So then I set up a plan to do that or not that would've been very 00:20:59.850 --> 00:21:01.290 lofty at the very beginning mm-hmm 00:21:01.534 --> 00:21:05.520 So the initial goal was to do 21 K a day for seven. 00:21:06.360 --> 00:21:07.500 That's still pretty lofty. 00:21:07.800 --> 00:21:08.280 Yes. 00:21:08.370 --> 00:21:10.260 So I didn't know how to do that. 00:21:10.890 --> 00:21:16.020 And I didn't hire anyone the whole first year was me just grinding. 00:21:16.140 --> 00:21:16.410 Yeah. 00:21:16.410 --> 00:21:18.060 And figuring it out all on my own. 00:21:18.420 --> 00:21:19.740 Not smart at all. 00:21:19.800 --> 00:21:21.840 Did you sustain injuries through that process? 00:21:23.090 --> 00:21:24.720 Nothing substantial. 00:21:24.960 --> 00:21:25.200 Okay. 00:21:25.380 --> 00:21:26.340 Nothing substantial. 00:21:26.700 --> 00:21:29.520 Um, you know, little things here and there, but nothing, nothing crazy. 00:21:29.940 --> 00:21:34.410 And, um, so I said that a goal to do that and, uh, it took me about 10 weeks. 00:21:34.560 --> 00:21:36.150 So I would do 10 K a day. 00:21:36.390 --> 00:21:37.440 No, it started with 11. 00:21:38.070 --> 00:21:41.430 I started with 11 K a day and every week I would add a kilometer to it. 00:21:41.580 --> 00:21:44.220 So 11, 12, 13 for, until it's 21. 00:21:44.220 --> 00:21:44.430 K. 00:21:45.030 --> 00:21:47.250 And then I got to 21 K and I did that for the week. 00:21:47.250 --> 00:21:50.220 And again, it wasn't pretty, but I did it. 00:21:50.225 --> 00:21:53.640 I was working full time, still going to work every day. 00:21:53.720 --> 00:21:53.960 Wow. 00:21:55.095 --> 00:21:57.465 a daughter who's three or four, going through a divorce, 00:21:57.465 --> 00:21:58.695 going through all these things. 00:21:58.695 --> 00:22:00.015 And I still did that. 00:22:00.585 --> 00:22:03.345 So for me, that was like, oh man, it made me feel good. 00:22:03.555 --> 00:22:03.945 Totally. 00:22:03.945 --> 00:22:05.535 That I was able to accomplish something like that. 00:22:05.535 --> 00:22:07.125 And then some, I was still at work. 00:22:07.125 --> 00:22:08.865 So some of the people I was working with were seeing that. 00:22:08.865 --> 00:22:09.075 Right. 00:22:09.465 --> 00:22:10.335 And they're like, holy shit. 00:22:10.575 --> 00:22:10.785 Right. 00:22:10.790 --> 00:22:11.325 What's going on here. 00:22:11.385 --> 00:22:11.655 Right. 00:22:12.285 --> 00:22:15.645 And so then, but again, I was in my own head doing my own thing. 00:22:16.545 --> 00:22:20.595 And then I started thinking, there's gotta be a way that we can 00:22:20.595 --> 00:22:22.755 leverage this for more positivity. 00:22:22.815 --> 00:22:24.735 Cuz I'm doing something now here I'm running. 00:22:24.735 --> 00:22:27.525 I there's something, it just came to my head. 00:22:27.525 --> 00:22:28.485 I gotta do something here. 00:22:28.490 --> 00:22:30.855 Mm-hmm and I don't know why that came up. 00:22:30.915 --> 00:22:34.095 I don't know the reason why I was thinking about that, but it just did. 00:22:34.845 --> 00:22:37.545 And I decided to. 00:22:37.980 --> 00:22:42.690 Run a hundred K mm-hmm and raise money for the BCU Legion for veterans 00:22:42.690 --> 00:22:45.300 and first responders RCMP with PTSD. 00:22:45.420 --> 00:22:45.660 Mm. 00:22:46.050 --> 00:22:49.230 And, um, never fundraised in my entire life. 00:22:49.260 --> 00:22:49.770 Right. 00:22:49.980 --> 00:22:54.780 Never did anything for anyone else, other than my job, which isn't really, 00:22:54.840 --> 00:22:57.510 it is doing something for other people, but there's levels, I think. 00:22:57.510 --> 00:22:57.810 Sure. 00:22:58.080 --> 00:23:03.690 And, um, and I didn't look at my job as that mm-hmm as service, 00:23:03.690 --> 00:23:05.850 like you're in the service industry. 00:23:05.880 --> 00:23:06.420 Right. 00:23:06.690 --> 00:23:08.370 But you're still getting paid for it. 00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:08.520 Yeah. 00:23:08.520 --> 00:23:09.240 It's still a job. 00:23:09.270 --> 00:23:09.420 Yeah. 00:23:09.420 --> 00:23:10.230 And it's different. 00:23:10.230 --> 00:23:12.060 It it's, it's, it's a different thing. 00:23:12.060 --> 00:23:13.290 It's not quite as selfless. 00:23:13.320 --> 00:23:13.770 Right. 00:23:14.150 --> 00:23:19.350 And, um, and it got to the point where I was going in for a paycheck essentially. 00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:19.530 Mm. 00:23:20.100 --> 00:23:20.520 You know what I mean? 00:23:20.610 --> 00:23:22.890 Mm-hmm I lost my, I hate that. 00:23:22.890 --> 00:23:23.160 Yeah. 00:23:23.160 --> 00:23:24.120 I lost my purpose. 00:23:24.150 --> 00:23:26.100 I lost, I was disillusioned all these things. 00:23:26.190 --> 00:23:27.630 So that's, that's an interesting one. 00:23:27.630 --> 00:23:29.910 You bring up on purpose and that's gonna allude to my question. 00:23:30.030 --> 00:23:30.690 Oh, you got it, bro. 00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:31.411 I got, I got it. 00:23:31.416 --> 00:23:32.490 I got it all full for you. 00:23:33.120 --> 00:23:36.375 um, so yeah, I, uh, So I started now. 00:23:36.585 --> 00:23:39.795 So I set that essentially the a hundred K and the raising the money is another goal. 00:23:39.975 --> 00:23:40.185 Right? 00:23:40.215 --> 00:23:43.785 Mm-hmm so I set that goal and I was like, okay, I wanna do that for remembrance day. 00:23:43.845 --> 00:23:45.495 Uh, it's gonna be called run to remember. 00:23:45.495 --> 00:23:45.524 Mm. 00:23:45.885 --> 00:23:48.645 Uh, it was on the 7th of November, 2021. 00:23:49.095 --> 00:23:51.885 And I started fundraising in August of 2021. 00:23:51.975 --> 00:23:52.125 Okay. 00:23:52.129 --> 00:23:56.415 And from August to September, I raised $21,000 and never, never. 00:23:56.870 --> 00:23:59.810 Ever in my life ever doing anything like that. 00:24:00.140 --> 00:24:02.600 And it was all through social media and it was all. 00:24:02.690 --> 00:24:06.140 And then from, um, uh, word of mouth from other people mm-hmm and 00:24:06.140 --> 00:24:09.590 then eventually, uh, global news ended up doing a story on me. 00:24:09.680 --> 00:24:10.280 I saw that. 00:24:10.280 --> 00:24:10.670 Yes. 00:24:10.675 --> 00:24:13.940 And, and they did a couple stories or whatever, and, um, which was 00:24:13.970 --> 00:24:17.210 extremely helpful to get the word out. 00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:17.540 Sure. 00:24:17.540 --> 00:24:20.210 Cause like, maybe like a day before the story went out, 00:24:20.210 --> 00:24:21.800 it was about eight, $9,000. 00:24:22.220 --> 00:24:26.000 And then within a week it was like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. 00:24:26.090 --> 00:24:26.390 Wow. 00:24:26.420 --> 00:24:27.140 After the news. 00:24:27.200 --> 00:24:27.560 Wow. 00:24:27.650 --> 00:24:31.790 And, um, so I want to thank Ramina day after that, cuz she was instrumental and 00:24:31.795 --> 00:24:35.090 connected with me and she, um, wanted to get the story out there at that time. 00:24:35.240 --> 00:24:35.660 Awesome. 00:24:35.750 --> 00:24:41.060 And um, so again, I, you know, trying to plan the run, doing the run, all 00:24:41.060 --> 00:24:44.660 these different things happening all at the same time, under a lot of stress, 00:24:45.560 --> 00:24:49.649 um, and I ran from Chillo P RTC. 00:24:49.655 --> 00:24:51.689 The, uh, yeah, I ran from PR TC. 00:24:51.840 --> 00:24:52.020 Yeah. 00:24:52.080 --> 00:24:53.280 To Vancouver airport. 00:24:53.879 --> 00:24:56.100 That's gonna be a hundred K right there. 00:24:56.159 --> 00:24:56.340 Yeah. 00:24:56.409 --> 00:24:59.610 And I did that in, um, 14 hours and 58 minutes. 00:24:59.615 --> 00:24:59.929 Wow. 00:25:00.600 --> 00:25:03.510 Um, on a, I pulled my hamstring the week before. 00:25:04.500 --> 00:25:07.620 And so luckily it was, it was still, it was manageable, but I had it, I 00:25:07.620 --> 00:25:08.700 got it worked done and everything. 00:25:08.700 --> 00:25:13.320 And, but, um, yeah, so I did that and that, uh, changed 00:25:13.320 --> 00:25:15.330 my entire perspective on it. 00:25:15.330 --> 00:25:19.379 Gave me a significant paradigm shift in perspective on everything. 00:25:19.590 --> 00:25:20.070 How, so 00:25:23.070 --> 00:25:25.350 my friend said, so, says something all the time. 00:25:26.070 --> 00:25:27.929 And I like to say it sometimes too. 00:25:29.189 --> 00:25:30.810 meaningful things with meaningful people. 00:25:30.840 --> 00:25:31.110 Yes. 00:25:31.110 --> 00:25:31.679 He does say that. 00:25:31.679 --> 00:25:32.100 Doesn't he? 00:25:32.159 --> 00:25:32.399 Yeah. 00:25:32.490 --> 00:25:38.399 And, um, so I, I wanted more meaning in my life I felt, um, it 00:25:38.399 --> 00:25:39.570 just didn't have any meaning, man. 00:25:39.570 --> 00:25:42.480 I was, I felt just like, I was just not doing anything. 00:25:42.485 --> 00:25:42.560 Mm. 00:25:42.750 --> 00:25:44.460 I was just kinda living a life. 00:25:44.550 --> 00:25:45.320 I was waiting to die. 00:25:46.230 --> 00:25:48.930 You know, when you see people like just they're going paycheck and 00:25:48.930 --> 00:25:51.270 doing their thing, and they're not really doing anything. 00:25:51.270 --> 00:25:53.430 It's just a, it's a sad life, right? 00:25:53.580 --> 00:25:55.440 It's uh, what's the term NPC. 00:25:55.480 --> 00:25:56.070 Have you heard that one? 00:25:56.075 --> 00:25:56.430 No. 00:25:56.879 --> 00:25:58.650 Uh, people call a person an NPC. 00:25:58.655 --> 00:25:59.910 It's a video game term. 00:25:59.910 --> 00:26:01.560 They see they're a non playable character. 00:26:01.565 --> 00:26:02.000 Okay. 00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:04.110 They just, they're just, they're there. 00:26:04.140 --> 00:26:04.230 Yeah. 00:26:04.280 --> 00:26:05.280 They're doing their thing. 00:26:05.310 --> 00:26:05.490 Yeah. 00:26:05.580 --> 00:26:06.780 The story's not about them. 00:26:06.840 --> 00:26:07.110 Yeah. 00:26:07.470 --> 00:26:11.490 And I, I, I just wanted more meaning in my life and yeah, I 00:26:11.490 --> 00:26:16.290 was, I had a daughter and I have a daughter and I love her to, to sure. 00:26:16.350 --> 00:26:16.890 Everything. 00:26:17.280 --> 00:26:20.760 And, uh, and, and, but for me, that's not my purpose. 00:26:20.760 --> 00:26:21.510 Isn't my daughter. 00:26:21.515 --> 00:26:22.600 Mm-hmm right. 00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:25.290 My, like, she's my daughter and I love her. 00:26:25.290 --> 00:26:27.720 And, but she's got her own purpose and yeah. 00:26:27.870 --> 00:26:28.890 I have my own purpose. 00:26:28.920 --> 00:26:29.190 Yeah. 00:26:29.550 --> 00:26:34.140 And so I, and I've, I've seen my parents and other family and 00:26:34.440 --> 00:26:35.730 cultures and whatever, and yeah. 00:26:36.180 --> 00:26:38.370 Their purpose was me and my brother. 00:26:39.750 --> 00:26:43.379 And what I've noticed when my parents put all their things into us. 00:26:44.534 --> 00:26:49.125 it gave too much of a pressure or, or, um, it was too much. 00:26:49.215 --> 00:26:52.635 You don't have your child as your purpose cuz now that no, your happiness 00:26:52.635 --> 00:26:53.834 is derived through your child. 00:26:53.834 --> 00:26:56.504 Well, when you're the one who's supposed to control all of your 00:26:56.504 --> 00:26:58.485 own happiness, all of your own joy. 00:26:58.935 --> 00:27:02.875 So I realized that over the last six months, mm-hmm that, um, 00:27:03.225 --> 00:27:06.105 I love my daughter, but she's not the source of my happiness. 00:27:06.135 --> 00:27:07.754 Mm-hmm I am right. 00:27:08.054 --> 00:27:09.524 And it has to be that way. 00:27:09.735 --> 00:27:12.405 You should never give away. 00:27:13.034 --> 00:27:19.514 What's the term abrogate control, uh, you should, of your joy or your pain. 00:27:19.665 --> 00:27:19.875 Mm. 00:27:19.905 --> 00:27:20.715 To a third party. 00:27:20.719 --> 00:27:23.175 Mm-hmm I'm happy because you came here today. 00:27:23.475 --> 00:27:25.334 I'm upset because you did this. 00:27:25.395 --> 00:27:27.824 Well, no, I'm I'm upset because I choose to be upset. 00:27:27.830 --> 00:27:31.754 What you did was something that I may have taken offense to, 00:27:31.784 --> 00:27:34.064 but that's me taking offense. 00:27:34.094 --> 00:27:35.385 That's me taking those points. 00:27:35.985 --> 00:27:41.415 And if we give an external, a third party, the ability to make us happy, we are by 00:27:41.415 --> 00:27:43.365 default giving them the control to make. 00:27:44.115 --> 00:27:44.595 Sad. 00:27:44.625 --> 00:27:45.345 Absolutely. 00:27:45.345 --> 00:27:47.024 And I never realized that before. 00:27:47.145 --> 00:27:47.564 Mm. 00:27:47.625 --> 00:27:49.274 So I lived a life kind of like that. 00:27:49.935 --> 00:27:53.504 And then slowly over the last two or three years, I've kind 00:27:53.510 --> 00:27:54.585 of been shifting out of that. 00:27:54.794 --> 00:27:59.024 But I, anyway, so I ran that a hundred K and I was, uh, definitely changed 00:27:59.024 --> 00:28:04.064 my life and the way I looked at things, but I was extremely desperate 00:28:04.064 --> 00:28:07.665 still mm-hmm, very, very dark. 00:28:08.024 --> 00:28:08.115 Mm. 00:28:08.415 --> 00:28:11.715 And I didn't know what, what to do with my life. 00:28:11.774 --> 00:28:16.995 Did you recognize as dark or do you look back and recognize it as being dark? 00:28:17.205 --> 00:28:20.054 Because I've talked to a lot of people and they say, you know, when I was in it. 00:28:21.314 --> 00:28:22.514 I just figured I was in it. 00:28:22.754 --> 00:28:25.425 I didn't really, I was just going through the motions and yeah. 00:28:25.425 --> 00:28:26.235 Things are rough. 00:28:26.235 --> 00:28:29.625 But when I look back between cuz everything's balanced, right, the 00:28:29.629 --> 00:28:32.564 whole yin and yang, when you can see light and you can see the darkness 00:28:32.564 --> 00:28:34.125 and how bad it is by comparison. 00:28:34.129 --> 00:28:34.455 Right? 00:28:34.695 --> 00:28:35.745 No, I knew I was messed. 00:28:35.804 --> 00:28:36.105 Yeah. 00:28:36.135 --> 00:28:36.284 Yeah. 00:28:36.290 --> 00:28:36.794 I knew, man. 00:28:36.794 --> 00:28:38.024 I, I, I got medicated. 00:28:38.054 --> 00:28:39.495 I had a major depressive episode. 00:28:39.825 --> 00:28:41.865 I had to go to the doctor, like the whole nine yards. 00:28:41.925 --> 00:28:42.195 Yeah. 00:28:42.225 --> 00:28:43.485 Like I was not good. 00:28:43.784 --> 00:28:43.845 Yeah. 00:28:43.845 --> 00:28:46.455 Like, and I'm not that guy . Yeah. 00:28:46.514 --> 00:28:48.615 Like, like I'm not that anything wrong with that. 00:28:48.615 --> 00:28:50.205 But for me it was very strange. 00:28:50.205 --> 00:28:53.595 Like I, I, there was a period of time. 00:28:53.595 --> 00:28:58.544 I wasn't sleeping and my stress levels were outta control. 00:28:59.175 --> 00:29:02.985 I had multiple injuries because of the stress tore my bicep complete 00:29:02.985 --> 00:29:04.875 off and that's tore it off. 00:29:05.235 --> 00:29:06.135 Holy Crow. 00:29:06.135 --> 00:29:06.375 Yeah. 00:29:06.379 --> 00:29:06.975 You can see that. 00:29:06.975 --> 00:29:10.439 I, uh, um, You know, multiple different things that were, uh, 00:29:10.439 --> 00:29:13.050 and I, 70% tore my tricep tendon. 00:29:13.199 --> 00:29:14.610 Were you just pushed in too much weight? 00:29:15.030 --> 00:29:18.659 It wasn't even that no, the stress was so high cortisol levels. 00:29:18.659 --> 00:29:22.320 So high that any sort of little small movements while I was like, I was 00:29:22.320 --> 00:29:24.330 trained jujitsu, but nothing excessive. 00:29:24.389 --> 00:29:24.720 Right. 00:29:24.760 --> 00:29:27.510 And things like that would happen. 00:29:27.780 --> 00:29:28.110 Wow. 00:29:28.500 --> 00:29:29.850 So I wasn't sleeping much. 00:29:29.855 --> 00:29:31.050 I was sleeping two or three hours a night. 00:29:31.110 --> 00:29:37.740 Mm-hmm um, I was, the anxiety was just overwhelming, man. 00:29:37.740 --> 00:29:39.510 Like I couldn't stop thinking. 00:29:39.629 --> 00:29:39.870 Mm. 00:29:39.929 --> 00:29:42.870 It got to the point where I was like, man, I need to, like, I never really did much 00:29:42.875 --> 00:29:44.340 cannabis or smoked or anything like that. 00:29:44.459 --> 00:29:44.639 Mm. 00:29:44.699 --> 00:29:48.990 And I would start doing edibles just to turn down the volume in my head. 00:29:49.139 --> 00:29:49.490 Mm. 00:29:49.709 --> 00:29:51.449 It wasn't so much getting me high. 00:29:51.510 --> 00:29:54.870 Like I would, when it was even, and this is while I'm still running mind you. 00:29:54.990 --> 00:29:55.320 Right. 00:29:55.590 --> 00:30:01.379 I would take a 20 milligram or a 30 milligram, uh, like edible and run. 00:30:01.830 --> 00:30:05.970 Wow, because not because I, I wanna feel high's cuz I would be thinking too much. 00:30:06.330 --> 00:30:08.910 So I wanted to turn the volume down so I could actually just get a two hour 00:30:08.910 --> 00:30:10.380 run in or an hour and a half run in. 00:30:10.470 --> 00:30:10.820 Mm. 00:30:11.040 --> 00:30:13.020 So that's how messed up I was. 00:30:13.020 --> 00:30:16.290 Cause now I don't, I don't, none of that needs to be, it needs to happen. 00:30:16.350 --> 00:30:17.820 Does running help turn the volume down? 00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:18.690 Absolutely it does. 00:30:18.695 --> 00:30:20.550 But at that point it was just too much. 00:30:20.580 --> 00:30:22.350 It was, it was, it was too much. 00:30:22.350 --> 00:30:23.520 Yeah, it was just too much. 00:30:23.940 --> 00:30:26.820 And um, like a major depressive episode for me. 00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:28.890 I was like, what is going on here, man? 00:30:28.890 --> 00:30:31.290 Like, I was like shaking at the doctor's office. 00:30:31.350 --> 00:30:31.650 Yeah. 00:30:31.770 --> 00:30:33.600 And, um, Anyway. 00:30:33.600 --> 00:30:39.630 So we got the medication and, and, and that was a trip for me because I never 00:30:39.630 --> 00:30:41.700 take those types of medications before. 00:30:41.700 --> 00:30:43.770 And it, it doesn't have such a stigma. 00:30:44.100 --> 00:30:45.990 I never take those types of medications. 00:30:45.995 --> 00:30:46.050 Yeah. 00:30:46.050 --> 00:30:48.270 Even just talking about it like that, there's a stigma 00:30:48.270 --> 00:30:49.440 associated with it, actually. 00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:52.230 You know what, and let me rephrase that or reframe it 00:30:52.230 --> 00:30:53.580 because you're absolutely right. 00:30:53.580 --> 00:30:56.370 And I think, um, there's nothing wrong with taking medication. 00:30:56.370 --> 00:31:00.150 If you, if, if it's required for a certain period of time to help you get situated. 00:31:00.150 --> 00:31:00.390 Right. 00:31:00.810 --> 00:31:05.040 And, you know, I needed medication at that time. 00:31:05.080 --> 00:31:05.680 Like I sure. 00:31:05.685 --> 00:31:06.389 Like absolutely. 00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:10.170 And, um, it helped the first week didn't it was terrible if you've 00:31:10.170 --> 00:31:11.520 ever had any medication like that. 00:31:11.520 --> 00:31:14.190 Well, the doctor goes to listen to this man, the doctor goes, yeah, you're gonna 00:31:14.190 --> 00:31:16.350 have some side effects, four or five days, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 00:31:16.350 --> 00:31:18.690 And like, they always say that and I'm like, okay, cool. 00:31:18.690 --> 00:31:23.370 I can handle it now way man kicked me in the ass really bad. 00:31:23.730 --> 00:31:24.000 Huh? 00:31:24.060 --> 00:31:27.570 Like, like never like just amped up the uh, no. 00:31:28.320 --> 00:31:32.910 So the side effects were nausea, headache, extremely lethargic. 00:31:32.940 --> 00:31:36.810 Like I was tired all the time for like four or five days 00:31:36.870 --> 00:31:37.920 and then it just stopped. 00:31:38.430 --> 00:31:38.730 Huh? 00:31:38.879 --> 00:31:40.470 It was like just a chemical imbalance. 00:31:40.530 --> 00:31:42.210 Like I guess the chemicals that are going through the brain, they're 00:31:42.210 --> 00:31:44.790 just restructuring things and, and, and, and it took about four or five 00:31:44.795 --> 00:31:47.340 days for it to kinda Latize right. 00:31:47.430 --> 00:31:50.490 And then I, it just like a S Sri or something. 00:31:50.520 --> 00:31:50.760 Yeah. 00:31:50.760 --> 00:31:52.350 Something it was, uh, I'll tell you what it was. 00:31:53.370 --> 00:31:54.000 Cymbalta. 00:31:54.330 --> 00:31:54.750 Okay. 00:31:54.840 --> 00:31:55.050 Yeah. 00:31:55.650 --> 00:32:01.620 And, um, so yeah, so I, uh, that happened and , uh, I'm still lost 00:32:01.620 --> 00:32:05.160 and then lucky for me, a lot of people, not a lot of people, just 00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:06.780 very, some very special people. 00:32:07.500 --> 00:32:15.180 Um, well, so my friend said he's been a friend of mine for about, 00:32:15.420 --> 00:32:16.590 I don't know, four years or so. 00:32:16.800 --> 00:32:16.980 Hmm. 00:32:17.340 --> 00:32:23.520 And, um, I saw him about, oh, it was last year just after the run. 00:32:23.520 --> 00:32:27.840 I saw him and Sean Taylor go to, um, Haiti. 00:32:28.725 --> 00:32:29.205 that's right. 00:32:29.205 --> 00:32:29.685 Yes. 00:32:29.835 --> 00:32:34.395 And I was at work still at the time and they had come back from Haiti 00:32:34.395 --> 00:32:35.985 and I'm, I saws with this guy. 00:32:35.985 --> 00:32:39.555 I'm who's, who's this guy maybe a few months before that. 00:32:39.555 --> 00:32:42.105 I, I found out who he was maybe in the summertime. 00:32:42.105 --> 00:32:44.235 And on that time, I'm like, who is this guy? 00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:47.835 So I goes Instagram and I'm like, uh, tier one operator, Warren officer bumbling, 00:32:47.835 --> 00:32:49.095 my way through life, blah, blah, blah. 00:32:49.095 --> 00:32:49.695 I'm like, holy shit. 00:32:49.725 --> 00:32:49.905 Okay. 00:32:49.905 --> 00:32:50.805 Let me take a look at this guy. 00:32:50.805 --> 00:32:54.315 Mm-hmm . And so I was tracking him a little bit, see who he was and I 00:32:54.345 --> 00:32:58.305 like I've, I've been around and I know what JTF two is, and I know what 00:32:58.310 --> 00:33:00.855 a, I know what he is and who he is. 00:33:00.860 --> 00:33:05.865 Mm-hmm and, and understood the caliber of that type of individual and what 00:33:05.865 --> 00:33:07.935 they may be mm-hmm before I met him. 00:33:07.935 --> 00:33:13.545 Mm-hmm . And so, anyways, so, and then while I was doing the runs 00:33:13.545 --> 00:33:16.665 before the November 7th, he would, you know, message me or I'll message 00:33:16.665 --> 00:33:17.715 him and he'd say, oh yeah, good. 00:33:18.075 --> 00:33:18.585 You know, whatever. 00:33:18.645 --> 00:33:18.795 Right. 00:33:18.795 --> 00:33:19.065 Yeah. 00:33:19.625 --> 00:33:22.605 And so anyways, that's part of what he does now still, is he 00:33:22.605 --> 00:33:24.285 coaches high performance athletes? 00:33:25.095 --> 00:33:25.545 Yes. 00:33:25.635 --> 00:33:32.115 So, so, um, he, uh, So he, I, I wanted to connect with him cuz I thought he's, 00:33:33.255 --> 00:33:35.265 I thought I could connect with someone. 00:33:35.835 --> 00:33:35.985 Mm. 00:33:36.555 --> 00:33:39.915 Like I thought maybe I could connect with a tier one operator maybe cuz 00:33:39.915 --> 00:33:42.585 I'm just, something's a little bit different about me and I'm doing 00:33:43.245 --> 00:33:44.415 sure, really excessive stuff. 00:33:44.415 --> 00:33:47.535 Maybe there's a connection there mm-hmm so when he was, uh, at the 00:33:47.535 --> 00:33:50.445 airport, his flight got canceled to Rosalyn because of the weather, 00:33:51.525 --> 00:33:53.085 it was a snow or whatever it was. 00:33:53.090 --> 00:33:54.045 I can, it was snowing. 00:33:54.435 --> 00:33:58.725 It was and, and um, so I, I saw that he, and he likes to post on 00:33:58.730 --> 00:34:00.855 his Instagram mm-hmm frequently. 00:34:00.855 --> 00:34:06.285 I think he's in and around 3,500 posts now for 3,200. 00:34:06.495 --> 00:34:06.795 Yep. 00:34:06.800 --> 00:34:11.355 And uh, and um, so he posted something and I was like, Hey 00:34:11.355 --> 00:34:15.045 man, uh I'm I'm, I'm here at work. 00:34:15.075 --> 00:34:16.035 I'm finishing up here. 00:34:16.035 --> 00:34:17.445 You want to go for, grab a coffee or something? 00:34:17.445 --> 00:34:18.225 Actually, no, that's not true. 00:34:18.705 --> 00:34:19.905 I said, you wanna go grab a beer? 00:34:20.115 --> 00:34:20.475 Right. 00:34:21.105 --> 00:34:22.425 And he's like, yeah, sure. 00:34:22.425 --> 00:34:23.775 But, uh, let's go grab a coffee. 00:34:24.450 --> 00:34:24.690 Okay. 00:34:24.720 --> 00:34:26.100 So he, he suggested the cough. 00:34:26.130 --> 00:34:26.370 Yep. 00:34:26.760 --> 00:34:30.870 So I met with him at, uh, at, um, one of the Aberdeen, maybe 00:34:30.870 --> 00:34:31.950 in, in, in Richmond there. 00:34:31.950 --> 00:34:33.060 Yeah, the mall, one of the malls there. 00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:36.300 I think it was Aberdeen anyway, uh, met with him. 00:34:36.660 --> 00:34:41.760 Um, 30 minutes turned into about three hours. 00:34:41.765 --> 00:34:48.300 Mm-hmm and uh, we shared some stuff together and we, I had some similarities 00:34:48.300 --> 00:34:54.150 and many like things that weren't similar, but there were some similarities there. 00:34:54.210 --> 00:34:54.570 Sure. 00:34:54.900 --> 00:34:58.440 And, um, I've, I've met a lot of people. 00:34:59.940 --> 00:35:02.460 I've interrogated or interviewed lots of people. 00:35:02.465 --> 00:35:06.300 Mm-hmm I've never met anyone like him. 00:35:07.230 --> 00:35:08.070 He's anyone. 00:35:08.190 --> 00:35:11.310 He is a very interesting fellow isn't he personally, for me, 00:35:11.310 --> 00:35:12.750 I've never met anyone like that. 00:35:12.755 --> 00:35:16.230 And the reason why he is interesting for me and why I've never met 00:35:16.235 --> 00:35:21.400 anyone like that is cuz he didn't know me from Adam mm-hmm he's a. 00:35:22.424 --> 00:35:25.725 A guy from Rosslyn, BC probably has no connection to anyone in 00:35:25.725 --> 00:35:26.895 the Indo-Canadian community. 00:35:26.895 --> 00:35:27.524 Probably. 00:35:28.785 --> 00:35:29.174 I don't know. 00:35:29.234 --> 00:35:29.714 Maybe he does. 00:35:29.714 --> 00:35:30.194 Maybe he doesn't. 00:35:30.254 --> 00:35:32.384 Yeah, but these are the things that were going through my head. 00:35:32.390 --> 00:35:32.564 Right. 00:35:32.569 --> 00:35:32.955 Sure. 00:35:33.134 --> 00:35:43.575 And I'm like, uh, so what he did for me was he would zoom call me three, four 00:35:43.575 --> 00:35:47.535 days a week, maybe even some weeks, every single day for two hours a day. 00:35:47.984 --> 00:35:48.674 Wow. 00:35:49.814 --> 00:35:50.895 Just of own volition. 00:35:51.734 --> 00:35:55.395 I needed some help and I wasn't in a good spot. 00:35:56.834 --> 00:36:01.274 And, um, I wasn't in a good spot. 00:36:01.395 --> 00:36:05.325 So he, he, he, he called and I would call him and, and then 00:36:05.325 --> 00:36:07.875 we would have conversations and then we'd discuss things. 00:36:07.875 --> 00:36:09.285 And I would talk about what I want to do. 00:36:09.285 --> 00:36:13.334 He would, he would essentially what he did was performance. 00:36:13.334 --> 00:36:16.845 Coach me out of where I was, but you're in a place where 00:36:16.845 --> 00:36:18.464 you're ready to accept that too. 00:36:19.589 --> 00:36:24.240 yes, I was searching mm-hmm I was on a mission to get help. 00:36:24.660 --> 00:36:26.069 I was looking for somewhere. 00:36:26.190 --> 00:36:26.310 Mm. 00:36:26.310 --> 00:36:29.040 Like I was like, uh, when I first Mets four years ago is 00:36:29.040 --> 00:36:30.629 when I was kind of searching. 00:36:30.750 --> 00:36:34.950 I was gravitated towards se I don't know why he's a strong leader. 00:36:35.529 --> 00:36:36.379 Absolutely. 00:36:36.569 --> 00:36:37.529 A very positive fellow. 00:36:37.589 --> 00:36:37.859 Yeah. 00:36:37.859 --> 00:36:41.640 So when I saw his said four or five years ago, I was like, okay, I start kind of, 00:36:42.149 --> 00:36:46.589 you know, learning and understanding certain things from his perspective. 00:36:46.595 --> 00:36:54.569 And anyways, so yeah, I met Sean and, and, and, um, yeah, what he did was 00:36:54.575 --> 00:36:59.580 basically strip away the white noise and helped me realize and understand 00:36:59.850 --> 00:37:02.759 what kind of person I am and who I actually am and what I'm meant to. 00:37:03.795 --> 00:37:04.275 Wow. 00:37:04.964 --> 00:37:06.795 No, and that's not bullshit. 00:37:07.004 --> 00:37:09.944 People pay a lot of money to get to that. 00:37:09.944 --> 00:37:10.634 Why? 00:37:10.754 --> 00:37:15.165 I mean, Simon, Sinski's got the, the golden circle or whatever it 00:37:15.165 --> 00:37:17.504 is and the why in finding your why. 00:37:17.504 --> 00:37:22.065 And he's probably one of the cheapest ones out there, but, uh, and probably 00:37:22.065 --> 00:37:25.515 one of the B the better ones from what I understand, but people spend 00:37:25.515 --> 00:37:27.795 thousands of dollars on easily. 00:37:27.855 --> 00:37:29.745 So that's, that's one of the conversations we had. 00:37:29.745 --> 00:37:33.765 He go, he's like, I'm not gonna give you an invoice, but you got work to do now. 00:37:34.095 --> 00:37:34.545 Mm. 00:37:36.015 --> 00:37:40.484 So Sean's not just a friend for me. 00:37:40.725 --> 00:37:41.805 Mm he's. 00:37:41.805 --> 00:37:42.555 My mentor. 00:37:42.915 --> 00:37:46.424 I talked to him as, not as much as I have in the past. 00:37:46.455 --> 00:37:46.815 Sure. 00:37:47.625 --> 00:37:55.995 Um, but I do connect with him often to have conversations 00:37:57.165 --> 00:37:58.424 because it's fun to talk. 00:37:58.430 --> 00:37:59.055 Totally. 00:37:59.325 --> 00:37:59.955 And I enjoy. 00:38:00.855 --> 00:38:02.805 His thought process and how he thinks. 00:38:03.645 --> 00:38:08.774 And I like to think like him one day, you know, , it's, it's funny that you were 00:38:08.774 --> 00:38:14.984 saying earlier about how you, your ego was outta control and it was all about you. 00:38:15.194 --> 00:38:17.295 And all of a sudden there was this realization and you don't know 00:38:17.295 --> 00:38:20.654 where I came from and it was, I gotta be doing this for others. 00:38:20.654 --> 00:38:25.065 And, uh, uh, you're raising money for the, for the Legion. 00:38:25.065 --> 00:38:27.254 You're raising money for the owner house. 00:38:27.254 --> 00:38:30.825 And Sean and I had a discussion about this as well too. 00:38:30.825 --> 00:38:33.435 And I I've heard polarizing opinions on it. 00:38:33.435 --> 00:38:35.805 You know, people say I'm in a bad place. 00:38:36.315 --> 00:38:38.234 I need to concentrate on me for a little bit. 00:38:38.234 --> 00:38:39.375 I gotta fix me. 00:38:39.545 --> 00:38:41.654 And some people say. 00:38:42.570 --> 00:38:43.529 Hold on a second. 00:38:43.680 --> 00:38:48.480 If you really want to fix you, look outward, help other people that will give 00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:51.000 your life some meaning or some purpose. 00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:53.430 I mean, Victor Frankel wrote the Bookman search for meaning. 00:38:53.580 --> 00:38:55.170 I don't know if you've had a chance to look at that one. 00:38:55.200 --> 00:38:58.200 No, I haven't read the book, but I I've read pieces of what he's done. 00:38:58.380 --> 00:38:58.710 Sure. 00:38:59.370 --> 00:39:07.320 Um, and in so much as you have been finding great value in what Sean has 00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:13.080 been providing you, I'm willing to bet that Sean finds great value in what 00:39:13.080 --> 00:39:18.840 he's able to provide to you and assist you with and watch how you're are 00:39:18.845 --> 00:39:24.450 developing, because it is an interesting interconnectivity to all of us. 00:39:24.450 --> 00:39:28.650 And if all we're looking at it is for our own self interest. 00:39:29.759 --> 00:39:33.420 It's like that whole pursuit of happiness, the paradox is as you try and pursue 00:39:33.420 --> 00:39:36.029 happiness, you're never gonna be happy. 00:39:36.660 --> 00:39:38.160 Is that you say that, man? 00:39:38.520 --> 00:39:43.500 I was asking Sean a question in one of our conversations and, um, I didn't 00:39:43.500 --> 00:39:45.150 know anything about Rosalind, right? 00:39:45.570 --> 00:39:46.560 I don't know where it is. 00:39:46.620 --> 00:39:47.820 I know where it is now, but sure. 00:39:47.820 --> 00:39:49.080 I didn't know what it, where it was. 00:39:49.080 --> 00:39:50.490 Why you'd want to live there. 00:39:50.490 --> 00:39:51.540 Like no idea. 00:39:51.600 --> 00:39:51.930 Yeah. 00:39:51.990 --> 00:39:53.070 Mountain biking, skiing. 00:39:53.075 --> 00:39:56.009 If you're into that, you'll like Rosalind and I didn't know what 24 hour 00:39:56.009 --> 00:39:57.420 solos were when I was talking to him. 00:39:57.570 --> 00:39:58.799 Like I had no freaking clue, man. 00:39:58.830 --> 00:39:59.110 Yeah. 00:39:59.115 --> 00:39:59.220 Yeah. 00:39:59.220 --> 00:40:00.029 I have no idea. 00:40:00.035 --> 00:40:00.600 I'm just like what? 00:40:00.630 --> 00:40:00.779 Okay. 00:40:00.785 --> 00:40:01.200 Whatever. 00:40:01.290 --> 00:40:01.590 Sure. 00:40:01.890 --> 00:40:04.200 But here's the, the fundamental truth though. 00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:08.130 Um, I'll get back to I, before I forget, I want mention this. 00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:12.180 Sean would be the only person on this planet that could have helped me. 00:40:12.690 --> 00:40:13.740 Yeah, I think so. 00:40:13.830 --> 00:40:15.540 Cuz I wouldn't have listened to anyone else. 00:40:15.690 --> 00:40:17.490 Right person, right time. 00:40:17.820 --> 00:40:23.070 Because I couldn't say anything that would, um, that would 00:40:23.070 --> 00:40:24.660 counter what he he's been through. 00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:27.450 Mm-hmm so I'd be, I could say, oh this, that and the other and he'd go. 00:40:27.450 --> 00:40:32.924 Oh yeah, but this mm-hmm . So like, let's like for an simple example, I could just 00:40:32.924 --> 00:40:37.095 talk about, let's say a run mm-hmm and I'd be like, oh man, this run was tough. 00:40:37.095 --> 00:40:39.464 I, you know, I couldn't do this, that and the other, he goes, oh, did you die? 00:40:42.015 --> 00:40:42.404 I'm like, no. 00:40:42.404 --> 00:40:43.275 Did your leg fall off? 00:40:43.335 --> 00:40:43.605 Yeah. 00:40:43.904 --> 00:40:44.085 Okay. 00:40:44.085 --> 00:40:46.095 You could finish then that's right. 00:40:47.444 --> 00:40:48.884 Just a perspective shift. 00:40:48.944 --> 00:40:49.095 Yeah. 00:40:49.095 --> 00:40:51.825 And I can't argue with that now, if someone else says that to me, I go F 00:40:51.825 --> 00:40:53.145 you, man, you don't know what I can do. 00:40:53.174 --> 00:40:53.654 That's right. 00:40:54.315 --> 00:40:54.585 Yeah. 00:40:55.305 --> 00:40:59.835 So it, it was diff I couldn't so I was, did you die? 00:40:59.835 --> 00:41:04.875 I was immediately disarmed talking to him because they couldn't argue with him. 00:41:05.535 --> 00:41:09.944 There was no argument to be had in terms of proving what I thought was correct. 00:41:10.395 --> 00:41:14.745 Cause I wasn't mm-hmm and it's allowing your ego to die in the process. 00:41:14.775 --> 00:41:15.045 Yeah. 00:41:15.045 --> 00:41:20.295 Which was, and it's look, my ego is still it'll take years 00:41:20.595 --> 00:41:22.845 to kind of really it's fine. 00:41:22.845 --> 00:41:24.194 It's but it comes out. 00:41:25.040 --> 00:41:28.395 and it can get pretty aggressive and it can get pretty angry. 00:41:28.485 --> 00:41:28.785 Sure. 00:41:28.995 --> 00:41:32.655 So, but that'll, you know, in time, everything kind of sorts itself out. 00:41:32.655 --> 00:41:35.685 And I I've noticed that, um, it is kind of sorting itself out. 00:41:35.985 --> 00:41:38.235 Well, being able to recognize that is the first step. 00:41:38.235 --> 00:41:38.445 Right. 00:41:38.445 --> 00:41:40.965 And the second you can see that something's kind of stepping 00:41:40.970 --> 00:41:45.045 outta controller in a direction that you don't like now you got 00:41:45.045 --> 00:41:46.845 the ability to affect change. 00:41:46.935 --> 00:41:48.315 If you can't even see it happening. 00:41:48.765 --> 00:41:49.365 Good luck. 00:41:49.425 --> 00:41:49.755 Right? 00:41:49.755 --> 00:41:49.875 Yeah. 00:41:50.205 --> 00:41:53.355 Well, before I wouldn't I'd have no intention. 00:41:53.505 --> 00:41:53.805 Mm. 00:41:54.405 --> 00:41:56.115 So now I have intention throughout the day. 00:41:56.385 --> 00:41:57.735 At least I try to, mm. 00:41:57.825 --> 00:42:00.195 And I try to, I try to think about what I want to do. 00:42:00.195 --> 00:42:01.575 I, I don't free Willi anymore. 00:42:02.085 --> 00:42:05.355 , you know, I don't, I don't, I don't like just like, I try 00:42:05.355 --> 00:42:07.035 to have structure through. 00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:11.880 What I try to do each day mm-hmm and, and purpose behind 00:42:11.880 --> 00:42:12.840 it and, and meaning behind it. 00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:14.340 So I'm not wasting my time in it. 00:42:14.340 --> 00:42:16.920 And the reality is I have zero time to waste. 00:42:16.950 --> 00:42:17.970 I'm 44. 00:42:18.210 --> 00:42:20.040 I don't wanna run across Canada when I'm 50. 00:42:21.090 --> 00:42:21.540 no. 00:42:21.600 --> 00:42:21.930 Right. 00:42:21.935 --> 00:42:25.410 And I want, and I got, I got a two year timeline, so that means 00:42:25.410 --> 00:42:27.840 there's zero time to waste. 00:42:28.260 --> 00:42:32.790 So that means I need to do everything that I need to do right now to galvanize as 00:42:32.790 --> 00:42:36.360 many people as possible around what we're trying to do so we can affect permanent 00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:39.000 positive change permanently mm-hmm. 00:42:39.240 --> 00:42:40.380 like, that's, that's my goal. 00:42:40.470 --> 00:42:43.920 My goal is not to run across Canada. 00:42:44.040 --> 00:42:48.000 That's just a means of affecting permanent positive change. 00:42:48.480 --> 00:42:52.500 Cuz how I understand permanent positive change is exactly what Terry Fox did. 00:42:52.770 --> 00:42:55.470 If I run across Canada once and raise a million dollars. 00:42:55.470 --> 00:42:55.770 Great. 00:42:55.775 --> 00:42:56.100 Cool. 00:42:56.100 --> 00:42:56.940 But who cares? 00:42:58.440 --> 00:42:59.910 it needs to happen forever. 00:43:00.030 --> 00:43:05.310 Mm-hmm so really that's the question and I'm problem solving it backwards. 00:43:05.310 --> 00:43:05.610 Now. 00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:08.700 See, you're getting close to my question that I've, uh, alluded to at the 00:43:08.700 --> 00:43:18.480 beginning that, uh, which is essentially so, uh, Jason, bud friend of mine, uh, 00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:24.690 ex British army spin on the podcast and, um, uh, sharing different stories. 00:43:24.690 --> 00:43:29.130 One of the things he talked about was in dealing with his own mental health. 00:43:29.130 --> 00:43:33.450 There is a, uh, four pillars that kind of needed to be taken care of. 00:43:33.870 --> 00:43:38.190 Uh, sleep was one of them like crucial big one that needed to be taken care of. 00:43:41.415 --> 00:43:43.725 Exercise and diet is another one. 00:43:43.965 --> 00:43:45.165 I think that was kind of lumped together. 00:43:45.165 --> 00:43:50.025 One was, uh, like substance control or making sure that nothing's in excess, 00:43:50.030 --> 00:43:53.655 even if it's coffee or whatever, it might be just keeping those things in control. 00:43:54.015 --> 00:43:55.425 But the last one was purpose. 00:43:56.245 --> 00:44:05.535 And as I'm listening and getting to know you, uh, there is a big purpose in 00:44:05.535 --> 00:44:12.255 2025, which leaves in my head anyways, a question mark in 2026 and 2027. 00:44:12.255 --> 00:44:16.425 And where does I leave you and what you're doing, but it sounds like 00:44:16.455 --> 00:44:17.895 you've already thought of this. 00:44:18.445 --> 00:44:19.275 I'd love to hear it. 00:44:19.725 --> 00:44:21.135 The rest of my life is this. 00:44:21.375 --> 00:44:21.675 Yeah. 00:44:22.335 --> 00:44:24.375 So after 2025, it'd be something else. 00:44:24.525 --> 00:44:24.675 Okay. 00:44:24.675 --> 00:44:25.815 It'd be something else after that. 00:44:25.935 --> 00:44:27.015 It'd be something else after that. 00:44:27.705 --> 00:44:30.305 I'm I'm I understand what I need to do. 00:44:31.065 --> 00:44:34.065 At this point, I'm just trying to figure out the steps to do them. 00:44:34.335 --> 00:44:34.575 Okay. 00:44:35.115 --> 00:44:37.335 And how to lay the foundation for my future as well. 00:44:37.335 --> 00:44:38.355 Cause I'm also 44. 00:44:38.355 --> 00:44:40.634 I gotta think about what I'm gonna do for the next 20 years of my life to 00:44:40.634 --> 00:44:42.285 support myself and things of that nature. 00:44:42.345 --> 00:44:44.924 Mm-hmm but I wanna do it in such a way that I'm happy. 00:44:45.254 --> 00:44:48.765 Mm-hmm so going back to the happy part in Rosslyn, when I was talking 00:44:48.770 --> 00:44:50.865 to Sean, I asked him a question. 00:44:50.865 --> 00:44:53.085 I go, why did you decide to move to Rolin BC? 00:44:53.115 --> 00:44:54.044 Like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 00:44:54.134 --> 00:44:58.125 And he is like, he turned, he just looks at me and goes, bro, you're not gonna 00:44:58.125 --> 00:45:00.944 find peace next to a babbling Brook. 00:45:01.424 --> 00:45:01.875 Mm. 00:45:02.595 --> 00:45:04.004 Because he knew where I was going with the question. 00:45:04.004 --> 00:45:04.995 I was like, why'd you go to Rolin? 00:45:04.995 --> 00:45:06.424 Was it to find like, right, right, right. 00:45:06.495 --> 00:45:09.765 Very, very small thinking. 00:45:09.825 --> 00:45:10.125 Right. 00:45:10.515 --> 00:45:15.254 And um, not necessarily what was the, the thinking I had at the 00:45:15.254 --> 00:45:19.830 moment mm-hmm and, um, when he said that I was like, okay, cool. 00:45:20.279 --> 00:45:20.520 What? 00:45:20.580 --> 00:45:20.850 Okay. 00:45:20.850 --> 00:45:23.759 So then they, I reflect on a lot of, I, I sit and ruminate a lot. 00:45:23.759 --> 00:45:23.940 Right? 00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:24.080 Sure. 00:45:24.080 --> 00:45:26.279 And I think about what people are saying and, and I, and I, and 00:45:26.279 --> 00:45:28.410 reflect, and he was absolutely right. 00:45:28.560 --> 00:45:30.990 And I'm not searching for happiness now. 00:45:30.990 --> 00:45:32.310 I already know how to get it. 00:45:32.315 --> 00:45:33.279 Mm-hmm and I'm already there. 00:45:33.470 --> 00:45:36.300 Mm-hmm I'm doing what I love to do right now. 00:45:37.395 --> 00:45:39.015 , which is awesome. 00:45:39.225 --> 00:45:40.425 You're embracing the challenge. 00:45:41.085 --> 00:45:44.235 I am all in now and it took me some time to get here. 00:45:44.355 --> 00:45:44.685 Mm. 00:45:44.805 --> 00:45:46.785 And it's not like I'm without challenges. 00:45:46.935 --> 00:45:50.835 My main challenge really that's the harder one is the financial piece. 00:45:50.935 --> 00:45:51.285 Mm. 00:45:51.705 --> 00:45:54.945 Um, all the other stuff treating to figure out how to build things is kind of fun. 00:45:54.950 --> 00:45:57.606 Mm-hmm , you know, build a YouTube channel, get the director for 00:45:57.611 --> 00:46:00.585 the documentary, get this, get that, get this, get that cool. 00:46:01.245 --> 00:46:05.505 Um, financially it's been a struggle because I don't have much money 00:46:05.505 --> 00:46:06.465 because I'm doing a lot of this. 00:46:06.465 --> 00:46:07.545 I'm paying for everything on my own. 00:46:07.545 --> 00:46:10.905 And then also funds from my workplace are gonna probably start, stop at some 00:46:10.910 --> 00:46:12.375 point, because I'm gonna leave the job. 00:46:13.125 --> 00:46:14.955 Um, I'm currently working from home right now. 00:46:14.955 --> 00:46:18.915 And, um, so, but I'm still transitioning outta the workplace, so sure. 00:46:19.275 --> 00:46:25.605 It's um, so my goal is to eventually, in terms of personally, for my own personal 00:46:25.605 --> 00:46:29.115 happiness, to have this YouTube channel and just to have these challenges that 00:46:29.115 --> 00:46:33.795 I always do and just document, and then that way people can also see that 00:46:33.795 --> 00:46:35.595 we're continuously raising money for. 00:46:36.240 --> 00:46:36.930 honor house. 00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:37.800 Interesting. 00:46:37.860 --> 00:46:42.120 So the YouTube channel will be a direct source to charity. 00:46:42.570 --> 00:46:45.120 And then I can also receive an income through that too. 00:46:45.120 --> 00:46:46.200 I don't need a lot of money. 00:46:46.290 --> 00:46:46.590 Mm. 00:46:46.650 --> 00:46:49.500 All I need to make, to be honest is 50 grand a year. 00:46:49.590 --> 00:46:49.920 Mm. 00:46:49.950 --> 00:46:53.970 If I can make 50 grand a year, pay my bills, I don't need much more. 00:46:54.120 --> 00:46:54.360 Yeah. 00:46:54.450 --> 00:46:56.220 And if I'm doing all the things that make me happy. 00:46:56.670 --> 00:46:58.740 Cool, then I'm good. 00:46:58.860 --> 00:46:59.880 I really don't need much. 00:46:59.970 --> 00:47:05.490 Mm-hmm I suspect though, based on the trajectory of what's happened 00:47:05.490 --> 00:47:09.420 in the LA past year alone and the growth and the reach that's 00:47:09.420 --> 00:47:12.570 been happening, it's inevitable. 00:47:12.600 --> 00:47:13.740 That'll be beyond that. 00:47:14.910 --> 00:47:15.930 You know, it's funny. 00:47:15.930 --> 00:47:20.985 I, um, Friend of mine, she's really into metrics on her business and, 00:47:20.985 --> 00:47:25.755 uh, key performance indicators and, uh, uh, spreadsheets and charts. 00:47:25.755 --> 00:47:29.355 And, and she's going through this stuff and she'll ask me questions about my 00:47:29.355 --> 00:47:31.605 business and what are you doing over here? 00:47:31.605 --> 00:47:32.745 And what are these numbers like? 00:47:32.745 --> 00:47:36.015 And what's your, uh, and she's throwing out some terms I I've never even heard of. 00:47:36.015 --> 00:47:36.225 Right. 00:47:37.005 --> 00:47:38.355 like, I, I don't know. 00:47:38.895 --> 00:47:39.165 Right. 00:47:39.170 --> 00:47:40.665 Mm-hmm I say, what do you mean you don't? 00:47:41.925 --> 00:47:45.225 And I, truthfully, I tell her, I say, you know, and I've mentioned 00:47:45.230 --> 00:47:46.425 this before in the podcast. 00:47:46.995 --> 00:47:48.585 I don't, I don't think about the money. 00:47:48.645 --> 00:47:53.985 The money is a byproduct of hard work and effort and providing value to others. 00:47:54.015 --> 00:47:57.015 Mm-hmm so you can put all the time and hard work and effort into something, 00:47:57.015 --> 00:48:00.645 but if you're providing nothing of value that anybody else can can find 00:48:00.645 --> 00:48:06.675 in there, um, you, you can't ex expect a, uh, remuneration or an exchange of 00:48:06.825 --> 00:48:09.555 goods or services for a lack of value. 00:48:09.705 --> 00:48:12.955 Mm-hmm . If you're able to look at the. 00:48:14.115 --> 00:48:18.464 End product from sort of a macro perspective and what value you're 00:48:18.464 --> 00:48:22.395 gonna be bringing an individual, a community, a, uh, a group, whatever 00:48:22.395 --> 00:48:24.734 it might be an organization. 00:48:26.924 --> 00:48:27.915 And you bring that value. 00:48:28.754 --> 00:48:30.884 That money will be a byproduct of it. 00:48:30.890 --> 00:48:34.605 Now I've got the luxury of being able to surround myself with some people who can, 00:48:34.785 --> 00:48:39.975 uh, look at the accounting and look at things and, uh, and step in when needed. 00:48:39.975 --> 00:48:46.725 But, um, I think if I took a different perspective and I was always looking at 00:48:46.725 --> 00:48:48.615 that money, I would always be behind it. 00:48:49.035 --> 00:48:52.035 I'd always be chasing it, cuz there's always more that could be had or 00:48:52.035 --> 00:48:53.385 different ways you can squeeze it out. 00:48:53.385 --> 00:48:57.645 And I'm not looking at the value that I'm bringing others like this podcast. 00:48:57.975 --> 00:48:58.755 I don't monetize it. 00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:00.945 Mm-hmm I, I don't make a dime for this podcast. 00:49:00.950 --> 00:49:04.065 Mm-hmm my whole goal is to bring value either through education or 00:49:04.065 --> 00:49:06.705 entertainment to the, to the end user. 00:49:06.915 --> 00:49:09.615 Well, in, in all awesome points. 00:49:09.615 --> 00:49:13.785 And I think that for me, my purpose isn't to make money. 00:49:13.995 --> 00:49:14.355 Right? 00:49:15.105 --> 00:49:17.085 You're you're, you're chasing a greater purpose. 00:49:17.090 --> 00:49:17.145 Yeah. 00:49:17.175 --> 00:49:18.285 Money will be a byproduct. 00:49:18.285 --> 00:49:19.095 What you're doing, which is fine. 00:49:19.125 --> 00:49:22.155 So if, if money was my purpose, then I would do something different. 00:49:22.335 --> 00:49:22.545 Sure. 00:49:23.260 --> 00:49:24.045 there there's always that. 00:49:24.045 --> 00:49:24.495 Right, right. 00:49:24.765 --> 00:49:25.815 But money's not my purpose. 00:49:25.820 --> 00:49:27.495 My purpose is greater than myself. 00:49:27.555 --> 00:49:28.395 Mm it's. 00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:29.145 Not about me. 00:49:29.355 --> 00:49:34.635 Mm-hmm zero to do with me because if it had to do with me, I wouldn't be doing it. 00:49:35.775 --> 00:49:37.785 Because it's really hard though. 00:49:37.785 --> 00:49:38.625 That's exactly it. 00:49:38.625 --> 00:49:41.145 And it would only be feeding back into that whole ego thing yeah. 00:49:41.145 --> 00:49:46.515 That you were trying to, uh, to quell and, and, and I'm, I'm still on that journey. 00:49:46.545 --> 00:49:46.935 Right. 00:49:46.995 --> 00:49:55.365 And I'm still understanding who I am and I'm still figuring that out. 00:49:55.515 --> 00:49:55.785 Right. 00:49:55.785 --> 00:49:59.595 I'm I'm and I'm 44 and I'm still feeling, trying to figure it out. 00:49:59.600 --> 00:50:04.694 And I, all I want to do is move in the direction of being a better person 00:50:04.700 --> 00:50:09.585 every single day and being the best version of myself every single day. 00:50:10.125 --> 00:50:10.964 That is it. 00:50:11.174 --> 00:50:13.205 I, whatever happens around that. 00:50:13.995 --> 00:50:14.505 Awesome. 00:50:14.775 --> 00:50:18.825 So with the YouTube channel, you're gonna be able to provide daily 00:50:18.825 --> 00:50:22.815 documentation sort of things, quick shorts mm-hmm , uh, provide, uh, 00:50:22.820 --> 00:50:26.415 obstacles you're you're encountering mm-hmm and how you are overcoming them. 00:50:26.415 --> 00:50:29.565 And like there's, there's value in just that, right? 00:50:29.565 --> 00:50:35.145 In, in being able to have a community of people who are looking to better 00:50:35.145 --> 00:50:38.775 themselves mm-hmm and likewise, like, I don't, you don't strike me 00:50:38.780 --> 00:50:41.895 as the type of person who's coming across as saying, I have the answers, 00:50:42.315 --> 00:50:45.195 but you say I'm on a journey mm-hmm and you're welcome to join me. 00:50:45.375 --> 00:50:48.615 And I'm more than happy to have people on my YouTube channel 00:50:48.615 --> 00:50:49.875 who may have some answers. 00:50:49.935 --> 00:50:50.295 Right. 00:50:50.385 --> 00:50:51.225 And then ask them. 00:50:51.230 --> 00:50:51.625 Sure. 00:50:51.645 --> 00:50:57.135 And because I think, um, look, I'm, I'm not a I'm, I'm just a guy, man. 00:50:57.135 --> 00:50:58.575 Like I'm not a tier one operator. 00:50:58.605 --> 00:51:01.755 I'm not a, a E R T team leader. 00:51:01.815 --> 00:51:03.345 I'm not any of these things. 00:51:03.435 --> 00:51:03.735 Right. 00:51:03.735 --> 00:51:09.855 I'm I'm just a guy who has a couple skill sets that I'm trying to maximize. 00:51:10.935 --> 00:51:14.355 That's pretty much it, that isn't that the same for everybody. 00:51:15.254 --> 00:51:15.975 Absolutely. 00:51:15.975 --> 00:51:19.875 And so I think that's kind of the messaging I'd like to kind of provide is 00:51:19.875 --> 00:51:27.254 that just maximize your skills, whatever those skills are, try to maximize. 00:51:27.254 --> 00:51:28.214 'em the best you can. 00:51:28.220 --> 00:51:35.355 And, um, at least my experience, it's a fulfilling thing to 00:51:35.355 --> 00:51:36.734 see what you're capable of. 00:51:36.855 --> 00:51:37.524 Totally. 00:51:37.754 --> 00:51:43.305 Like I can run 50 K a day right now, man, but you're not doing it by yourself. 00:51:43.335 --> 00:51:47.234 No, but in my head, what I'm thinking is like I couldn't run 00:51:47.234 --> 00:51:49.555 five K two years ago, two years ago. 00:51:49.555 --> 00:51:49.714 Right. 00:51:50.055 --> 00:51:53.535 So the reality is in another year and a half, I'll go from zero 00:51:53.535 --> 00:51:55.935 kilometers of running to potentially. 00:51:56.685 --> 00:51:57.825 Very for sure. 00:51:57.825 --> 00:51:58.725 80 K a day. 00:51:58.965 --> 00:51:59.685 Wow. 00:51:59.805 --> 00:52:03.135 Like anything is possible with a little bit of grit, little bit 00:52:03.135 --> 00:52:04.605 of consistency and determination. 00:52:04.605 --> 00:52:07.035 I'm like proof is in the pudding right here. 00:52:07.275 --> 00:52:11.475 Are you finding that as you grow through this, as you grow as a runner, as you're 00:52:11.475 --> 00:52:17.535 going through this journey yourself, that it is, uh, starting to alienate 00:52:17.540 --> 00:52:19.125 some people that you used to hang around? 00:52:19.125 --> 00:52:19.185 Yeah. 00:52:19.455 --> 00:52:19.905 Um, 00:52:23.895 --> 00:52:28.905 it's hard for me to know for sure, because the people I used to hang 00:52:28.905 --> 00:52:33.105 around kind of disappeared before a lot of, of what's happening. 00:52:33.435 --> 00:52:33.645 Sure. 00:52:33.765 --> 00:52:34.935 So it's hard to say. 00:52:35.445 --> 00:52:42.315 Um, I do sometimes lately and I suspect over the next few years, 00:52:42.315 --> 00:52:46.755 it's gonna be a lot more, feel like a party favor sometimes. 00:52:47.325 --> 00:52:47.715 Okay. 00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:51.210 I talk about myself all the time. 00:52:51.420 --> 00:52:51.930 Right. 00:52:51.935 --> 00:52:56.040 And about, and not because I want to is because I, I need to get the message out. 00:52:56.040 --> 00:52:57.270 I want, you're trying to promote something. 00:52:57.300 --> 00:52:57.510 Yeah. 00:52:57.510 --> 00:52:59.880 I want everyone to know the story, but I also don't wanna 00:52:59.880 --> 00:53:00.870 talk about myself all the time. 00:53:00.875 --> 00:53:01.260 Sure. 00:53:01.530 --> 00:53:06.960 And everywhere I go, people are like, I have to bring it up if they don't know. 00:53:06.965 --> 00:53:07.240 Mm. 00:53:08.100 --> 00:53:11.130 And then once they know they start asking the questions 00:53:11.130 --> 00:53:12.390 or they'll just start asking. 00:53:12.390 --> 00:53:14.640 So it's, it's, it's a constant sort of thing. 00:53:14.700 --> 00:53:18.090 All I'm talking about is myself and what we're doing, which is awesome 00:53:18.090 --> 00:53:21.720 because I'm obsessed in this, the goal, but I can see how it could be 00:53:22.620 --> 00:53:24.210 not as pleasant for someone else. 00:53:24.210 --> 00:53:26.730 And maybe someone else doesn't want to be sitting around me 00:53:26.730 --> 00:53:27.840 cuz that's all I talk about. 00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:32.910 And well, that's always the, the difficult dichotomy between trying to, uh, promote 00:53:32.970 --> 00:53:35.850 whether it's your business or yourself or whatever it is that you're trying to 00:53:35.850 --> 00:53:37.800 do or an external thing, something else. 00:53:38.850 --> 00:53:44.520 trying to promote that and be humble and ego free in the process. 00:53:44.520 --> 00:53:46.529 And it's like, where's that balance. 00:53:46.589 --> 00:53:53.910 And I, I find the more you progress down your path that I've been 00:53:53.910 --> 00:53:57.990 watching you on the more other people are doing the talking for you. 00:53:58.319 --> 00:54:01.830 And that allows you to be able to just concentrate on what you want to do. 00:54:01.890 --> 00:54:08.220 And as other people talk about it, it seems to build more momentum and maybe 00:54:08.220 --> 00:54:11.040 even more of a mystique, cuz maybe they might put their own inflections 00:54:11.040 --> 00:54:12.870 on that you might not necessarily do. 00:54:13.770 --> 00:54:16.420 No, I think, um, I want to, I wanna speak to that for a second. 00:54:16.420 --> 00:54:19.620 Mm-hmm like, in terms of like people raising me up or, or supporting me or 00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:24.450 cuz this is kind of, for me over the last month has been a new sort of, 00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:26.430 uh, metric that I've been recognizing. 00:54:26.430 --> 00:54:26.850 Sure. 00:54:27.540 --> 00:54:31.500 And, um, it took me a little bit of time to kinda wrap my head around 00:54:31.590 --> 00:54:33.390 and, and understand how to receive it. 00:54:33.960 --> 00:54:35.640 And I'll explain what I mean by that. 00:54:35.790 --> 00:54:37.050 Um, I don't have a lot of money. 00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:37.680 Sure. 00:54:38.520 --> 00:54:40.110 Maybe $3 in my bank account the other day. 00:54:40.230 --> 00:54:40.410 Yeah. 00:54:40.620 --> 00:54:40.860 Right. 00:54:41.010 --> 00:54:44.640 Um, and no complaining, this is, this is the, this is the journey that I'm on. 00:54:44.940 --> 00:54:45.570 It's all part of it. 00:54:45.570 --> 00:54:46.590 It's all part of the journey. 00:54:46.590 --> 00:54:46.800 Right. 00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:50.700 And, and I, and I'm actually happy about it because that's, it means 00:54:50.700 --> 00:54:52.830 this, this, this story will mean more. 00:54:53.850 --> 00:54:59.280 But having said that, um, and I'm fully transparent with everyone. 00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:01.800 Anytime I talk to 'em, you know, this is what's going on, this, all those 00:55:01.800 --> 00:55:04.950 things and, um, my daughter's five. 00:55:05.160 --> 00:55:05.370 Yep. 00:55:06.120 --> 00:55:12.000 And I started jujitsu two months before she was born March, 2017 00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:17.880 and I wanted to learn jujitsu for a few reasons I've always wanted to. 00:55:17.885 --> 00:55:21.240 And now I also want, I also wanted to teach my daughter jujitsu, cuz I think 00:55:21.245 --> 00:55:24.330 it's a fundamental skill that everyone should know swimming in jujitsu. 00:55:24.540 --> 00:55:24.870 Sure. 00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:30.390 And so I started and um, you know, close to my house. 00:55:30.390 --> 00:55:35.730 There's a school called, uh, Gracie Baja, um, white it's in white rock. 00:55:36.975 --> 00:55:39.015 and, uh, now I don't go to there. 00:55:39.015 --> 00:55:41.175 That's not my actual academy where I used to go. 00:55:41.205 --> 00:55:41.625 Sure. 00:55:41.685 --> 00:55:43.785 But I would drop in there from time to time. 00:55:43.785 --> 00:55:46.095 And I have friends that train there and things of that nature. 00:55:46.965 --> 00:55:49.845 And over the last five years, I've made connections with people there. 00:55:49.935 --> 00:55:50.355 Sure. 00:55:50.505 --> 00:55:55.005 And a few weeks ago I went to drop in to say hi to the professor, professors of the 00:55:55.005 --> 00:55:58.845 instructors and, um, Eddie awesome guy. 00:55:59.115 --> 00:56:02.925 And, um, and you know, talked to him and a few of the other guys there. 00:56:02.925 --> 00:56:04.695 And Eddie hadn't seen me in some time. 00:56:04.700 --> 00:56:07.995 And, and he's our age, you know, in around 40, 50 years old or something like that. 00:56:08.055 --> 00:56:11.385 Mm-hmm . And, uh, he is like, oh man, it's awesome. 00:56:11.385 --> 00:56:14.055 See you, we should go out for dinner, this, that, and the other, I was like, 00:56:14.055 --> 00:56:15.105 yeah, man, let's schedule it right now. 00:56:15.105 --> 00:56:16.365 Otherwise we won't sure. 00:56:16.395 --> 00:56:17.175 So it scheduled it. 00:56:17.325 --> 00:56:25.335 And, um, I met up with him and we went for dinner first time 00:56:25.335 --> 00:56:26.235 ever going to dinner with him. 00:56:27.105 --> 00:56:35.955 And he, he was talking to me about, um, Don't stop doing what you're doing. 00:56:37.484 --> 00:56:38.234 I was like, okay man. 00:56:39.044 --> 00:56:41.294 And he kept repeating it don't and I was like, okay. 00:56:41.294 --> 00:56:41.745 Yeah, cool. 00:56:42.194 --> 00:56:42.674 It's okay. 00:56:43.575 --> 00:56:49.754 And he went on to share some personal things that he normally wouldn't share 00:56:49.754 --> 00:56:53.085 with people, but he felt comfortable enough to share with me because of, 00:56:53.234 --> 00:56:54.585 I guess the journey that I'm on. 00:56:55.484 --> 00:56:59.685 And he isn't a social media guy. 00:57:00.884 --> 00:57:03.734 So he mentioned to me, he heard me on a podcast and as soon he 00:57:03.740 --> 00:57:05.325 said that, and I was like, what? 00:57:05.865 --> 00:57:07.935 Someone must have sent it to him or something. 00:57:08.085 --> 00:57:08.325 Right. 00:57:08.865 --> 00:57:12.015 And he said it really resonated with him. 00:57:13.154 --> 00:57:18.975 And, um, so he, he owns a, a couple schools and he was like, your daughter 00:57:18.975 --> 00:57:20.774 never has to pay for a jujitsu class. 00:57:20.865 --> 00:57:21.734 Wow. 00:57:21.915 --> 00:57:26.924 This is, and for me, that's a big deal. 00:57:26.930 --> 00:57:27.234 Wow. 00:57:28.080 --> 00:57:28.290 Hell. 00:57:28.290 --> 00:57:28.770 Yes. 00:57:29.040 --> 00:57:30.390 That's massive for me. 00:57:30.390 --> 00:57:33.089 That's a really, uh, it touched me quite a bit. 00:57:33.150 --> 00:57:40.049 Mm-hmm and um, so anyways, he, he said that and I was like, man, that's awesome. 00:57:40.049 --> 00:57:40.529 Thanks bro. 00:57:40.529 --> 00:57:41.610 I really appreciate that. 00:57:41.670 --> 00:57:44.430 And so that's just one El one part of that story. 00:57:44.460 --> 00:57:45.690 Mm-hmm and I'm also planning. 00:57:45.690 --> 00:57:49.110 I, I made it a connection with depo, uh, two or three weeks 00:57:49.110 --> 00:57:50.610 ago, RCMP training facility. 00:57:50.730 --> 00:57:54.330 Mm-hmm in Regina and I wanted, I was trying to figure out ways to 00:57:54.330 --> 00:57:56.190 get the message out even further. 00:57:56.190 --> 00:57:59.040 And I thought it would be a great idea if I can go there and speak to the 00:57:59.040 --> 00:58:02.130 recruits and talk to them and let them know what I'm doing and maybe take 'em 00:58:02.134 --> 00:58:05.790 out on a run mm-hmm so this is the, where the networking starts coming in. 00:58:05.790 --> 00:58:06.060 Right. 00:58:06.089 --> 00:58:09.390 And said, I know is friends with one of the recruiters out there and he is also 00:58:09.390 --> 00:58:11.220 on Instagram, real cops for real life. 00:58:11.250 --> 00:58:12.810 Mm-hmm Steven awesome guy. 00:58:12.990 --> 00:58:13.049 Mm. 00:58:13.845 --> 00:58:14.625 I messaged him. 00:58:14.625 --> 00:58:19.245 And then he and I had a chat for about 45 minutes on IGT, um, Instagram video thing. 00:58:19.305 --> 00:58:23.445 Mm-hmm and then, uh, five minutes later, I was like, okay, you're coming 00:58:23.445 --> 00:58:27.225 to Regina and you're gonna take a bunch of troops out for a run, and 00:58:27.225 --> 00:58:29.315 we're gonna talk about what you're doing, this, that and the other mm-hmm 00:58:29.655 --> 00:58:32.715 And I was like, I was floored by that. 00:58:32.715 --> 00:58:33.765 And I was like, awesome. 00:58:33.825 --> 00:58:34.905 So I'm in my head. 00:58:34.905 --> 00:58:35.985 I'm like, how am I gonna pay for that? 00:58:37.935 --> 00:58:39.675 cause it's gonna be like a $1,500 trip. 00:58:39.675 --> 00:58:39.795 Right. 00:58:39.795 --> 00:58:40.275 That's right. 00:58:40.275 --> 00:58:43.545 And it's $800 to fly there in hotel and whatnot. 00:58:43.545 --> 00:58:45.585 And are they gonna put you up? 00:58:46.155 --> 00:58:50.385 This is not, they're not paying for anything this, and I don't expect them 00:58:50.385 --> 00:58:57.555 to, um, I'm uh I'm um, it's opening the door step one, 1% every day. 00:58:57.645 --> 00:58:58.605 Mm-hmm right. 00:58:58.905 --> 00:58:59.775 So it's fine. 00:59:00.165 --> 00:59:06.780 Um, so I, uh, So Steven awesome guy, the recruiter, he said, don't 00:59:06.780 --> 00:59:07.590 worry about where you're staying. 00:59:07.590 --> 00:59:08.370 You can stay at my place. 00:59:08.370 --> 00:59:10.020 I'll give you next the other car or the extra car. 00:59:10.020 --> 00:59:11.400 You just drive it around wherever you need to go. 00:59:11.510 --> 00:59:11.930 Wow. 00:59:11.990 --> 00:59:13.830 And I was like, okay, so that's covered. 00:59:13.830 --> 00:59:14.400 Thank you, bro. 00:59:14.400 --> 00:59:15.540 I really appreciate it, man. 00:59:16.230 --> 00:59:19.650 Um, all based off of, I guess what I'm doing and, and, and, 00:59:19.650 --> 00:59:20.790 and trying to raise me up. 00:59:21.810 --> 00:59:25.410 And then, so now I'm talking to Eddie still at dinner, and I was 00:59:25.410 --> 00:59:28.110 mentioning about the depo stuff and he is like, okay, I got your ticket. 00:59:28.890 --> 00:59:29.400 No. 00:59:31.140 --> 00:59:32.310 So I started explaining everything. 00:59:32.315 --> 00:59:33.480 He goes like, bro, you think it's right? 00:59:33.780 --> 00:59:34.830 I was like, yeah, you're fine. 00:59:36.090 --> 00:59:39.990 So he said, just come to the school on Friday, on I'll have the money for you. 00:59:41.130 --> 00:59:42.120 So went to go pick it up. 00:59:42.120 --> 00:59:43.800 And he had $810 cash. 00:59:44.160 --> 00:59:44.640 Wow. 00:59:44.910 --> 00:59:48.210 So I can pay for the ticket, the universe unfolds as it should. 00:59:48.990 --> 00:59:49.380 Right. 00:59:49.530 --> 00:59:51.870 And that's just the, like, that was just one. 00:59:51.900 --> 00:59:53.730 Then I went that following week. 00:59:53.760 --> 00:59:55.380 So that's why of recently my. 00:59:56.400 --> 00:59:58.140 I've been more like this, cuz sure. 00:59:58.170 --> 01:00:00.630 Money's not stressing me as much cuz now it's just appearing now 01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:04.529 mm-hmm so for example, well appearing or whatever you wanna call it. 01:00:04.529 --> 01:00:04.740 Yeah. 01:00:04.770 --> 01:00:05.009 Yeah. 01:00:05.040 --> 01:00:05.880 Presenting present. 01:00:05.940 --> 01:00:10.830 And um, he, uh, so a couple weeks ago when I was in lay country yeah. 01:00:11.009 --> 01:00:14.640 With, uh, Jared, I was up there to do 21 K Spartan race. 01:00:14.940 --> 01:00:15.210 Okay. 01:00:15.779 --> 01:00:19.860 And it was a, you know, just to have fun, whatever, and I 01:00:19.860 --> 01:00:20.910 didn't have enough money to go. 01:00:21.480 --> 01:00:21.720 Hmm. 01:00:22.350 --> 01:00:26.940 I had about 160 bucks in my account or something and um, I was like, 01:00:26.940 --> 01:00:30.120 oh and my car isn't the best car. 01:00:30.600 --> 01:00:34.980 And I didn't want to drive it up there cuz that probably would've cost me more yes. 01:00:35.009 --> 01:00:35.279 Right. 01:00:35.460 --> 01:00:37.860 She had gas races that where they are now that and breaking 01:00:37.860 --> 01:00:39.330 down, like it's a hot mess. 01:00:39.330 --> 01:00:39.540 Right? 01:00:39.540 --> 01:00:39.720 Yeah. 01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:46.920 And um, so I, uh, the world, the universe, man, I have a friend of mine. 01:00:47.100 --> 01:00:50.850 Who's been a really good friend for the last couple years and she. 01:00:51.779 --> 01:00:53.190 Her sister works for Canada. 01:00:54.360 --> 01:00:57.150 So I got a buddy passed for 150 bucks round trip. 01:00:57.750 --> 01:00:58.471 So, wow. 01:00:58.890 --> 01:01:02.520 I bought that had a couple bucks, $10 left in my account, so it was good. 01:01:03.450 --> 01:01:08.460 and then I got there and Jared just moved to lake country. 01:01:08.610 --> 01:01:08.970 Yep. 01:01:09.060 --> 01:01:11.520 And I met him through the mental health walks that sub does 01:01:11.525 --> 01:01:15.690 mm-hmm so Jess coincident he's like, yeah, bro, stay at my place. 01:01:15.690 --> 01:01:16.020 I'll drive you. 01:01:17.370 --> 01:01:19.470 so I, so I, it just, it just happened. 01:01:19.650 --> 01:01:19.920 Yeah. 01:01:19.980 --> 01:01:23.100 So then now I'm in, um, in, in, in lake country. 01:01:23.100 --> 01:01:26.610 And so I also have a group of friends from Edmonton, um, that were 01:01:26.615 --> 01:01:28.140 coming down to do the Spartan race. 01:01:28.145 --> 01:01:31.320 Mm-hmm and they're part of a big community of, uh, people 01:01:31.325 --> 01:01:33.330 that do good things as well. 01:01:33.330 --> 01:01:38.040 Mm-hmm and, um, as you know, they have a WhatsApp group about 80 people 01:01:38.040 --> 01:01:41.520 in it and, and, and, uh, about 10 of them came down and they were like, 01:01:41.525 --> 01:01:45.510 Hey, sat, we're gonna go to this place for lunch on, on Friday, come join us. 01:01:45.990 --> 01:01:48.120 I was like, I'd love to guys, but I'm in lake country. 01:01:48.120 --> 01:01:50.100 I'm not gonna ask jar to drive me back and forth. 01:01:50.105 --> 01:01:53.550 And I'm not, I don't have enough money to Cabo and I'll see you at the race. 01:01:53.610 --> 01:01:53.910 We're good. 01:01:53.970 --> 01:01:54.270 We're good. 01:01:55.160 --> 01:02:02.520 And a couple hours later, um, Sarah, who I've met once when I went to Edmonton 01:02:02.610 --> 01:02:07.590 for, to meet these people and hang out, um, said, what's your email address? 01:02:07.590 --> 01:02:11.010 I'm transferring you, um, travel expenses. 01:02:12.180 --> 01:02:12.510 Wow. 01:02:12.570 --> 01:02:13.320 And I was like, what. 01:02:14.055 --> 01:02:16.275 So I gave her my email and she transferred me 200 bucks to help 01:02:16.275 --> 01:02:17.475 me out while I was just there. 01:02:17.985 --> 01:02:20.355 And so then I felt awkward for me. 01:02:20.355 --> 01:02:20.565 Yeah. 01:02:20.595 --> 01:02:25.755 Cause for me, I could see that for me, um, I've right or wrong. 01:02:25.755 --> 01:02:28.185 I've felt like people have taken advantage of me from various 01:02:28.185 --> 01:02:29.025 different times in my life. 01:02:29.025 --> 01:02:31.605 So I don't want anyone feeling like I'm doing that to them. 01:02:31.605 --> 01:02:31.935 Sure. 01:02:31.940 --> 01:02:32.405 Right. 01:02:32.665 --> 01:02:35.895 And I was talking to Jared about this and I was like, fuck Jared, 01:02:35.895 --> 01:02:37.275 man, how do I take this man? 01:02:37.275 --> 01:02:39.555 I don't like, how do I receive this? 01:02:40.935 --> 01:02:43.275 And he's man, your perspective is slightly wrong here. 01:02:43.905 --> 01:02:44.805 Interesting. 01:02:45.195 --> 01:02:45.855 And I was like, what do you mean? 01:02:46.755 --> 01:02:48.795 And he's like, you double down. 01:02:49.425 --> 01:02:50.384 They give you money. 01:02:50.415 --> 01:02:51.195 They help you out. 01:02:51.195 --> 01:02:55.875 You go harder, you go more and you gotta think of it differently. 01:02:55.875 --> 01:02:58.335 It's not that they're pitting or Chi like anything like that. 01:02:58.515 --> 01:02:58.935 It's. 01:02:59.460 --> 01:03:03.509 That's their way of contributing to the cause and the mission, totally 01:03:03.990 --> 01:03:05.790 people like to back a winning horse. 01:03:05.790 --> 01:03:06.120 Right. 01:03:06.210 --> 01:03:10.710 Well, for, for, and absolutely, but for me it was, uh, a process to get there. 01:03:10.819 --> 01:03:11.170 Mm. 01:03:11.460 --> 01:03:14.730 Um, for me to understand that, because I've never. 01:03:15.570 --> 01:03:16.290 Been around that. 01:03:16.860 --> 01:03:21.000 And for Jared to help me out in understanding that was, um, that's 01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:22.560 a big, it was, it was important. 01:03:22.680 --> 01:03:25.410 It's kind of like that goofy old joke about a person who's, 01:03:25.410 --> 01:03:27.330 uh, the town's flooding. 01:03:27.420 --> 01:03:27.690 Yeah. 01:03:27.750 --> 01:03:28.230 Hear that one. 01:03:28.235 --> 01:03:29.910 And he, the front door person drives by. 01:03:29.910 --> 01:03:31.320 He's like starting to flood. 01:03:31.320 --> 01:03:33.450 I get drunk, jump in the truck, right? 01:03:33.455 --> 01:03:33.630 Yeah. 01:03:33.635 --> 01:03:35.820 He's like, no, no, no, my God will save me. 01:03:35.820 --> 01:03:36.120 Right. 01:03:36.120 --> 01:03:36.330 Yeah. 01:03:36.600 --> 01:03:41.730 Uh, then he is, water's halfway up the house and a boat comes by and same thing. 01:03:41.735 --> 01:03:42.510 No, no, no, no. 01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:44.850 Then he is on the roof and a helicopter console. 01:03:44.855 --> 01:03:45.690 Like, no, no, no, no. 01:03:45.750 --> 01:03:48.570 And then he is in heaven cuz he is drowned. 01:03:49.560 --> 01:03:50.070 What happened? 01:03:50.070 --> 01:03:52.830 I sent you a truck and a boat and a helicopter. 01:03:52.830 --> 01:03:53.640 Why didn't you take it? 01:03:53.640 --> 01:03:53.910 Right. 01:03:53.910 --> 01:03:55.410 And these things come along in life. 01:03:55.440 --> 01:03:55.560 Yeah. 01:03:55.830 --> 01:03:58.800 And quite often our pride gets in the way and I, and I can see that. 01:03:58.800 --> 01:03:59.460 No, no, no, no. 01:03:59.460 --> 01:04:00.330 I don't want to take it. 01:04:00.540 --> 01:04:04.170 And then you, you become more reclusive and you go away. 01:04:04.200 --> 01:04:06.720 And so a year ago I wouldn't have accepted any of it. 01:04:06.780 --> 01:04:07.170 Totally. 01:04:07.680 --> 01:04:09.330 Sean Taylor helped me mm. 01:04:09.870 --> 01:04:13.080 Months ago with being okay. 01:04:14.250 --> 01:04:15.240 with, um, 01:04:18.930 --> 01:04:20.250 sort note the ego piece. 01:04:21.210 --> 01:04:24.300 He, he helped me understand that, Hey man, it's not about you. 01:04:24.360 --> 01:04:26.730 You, if you don't have money, just be honest. 01:04:26.760 --> 01:04:28.950 Mm-hmm like, why are you hiding? 01:04:29.370 --> 01:04:30.780 Like, who are you trying to prove to? 01:04:31.110 --> 01:04:31.670 like, what's going on. 01:04:32.190 --> 01:04:33.600 No, but that's reality, right? 01:04:33.600 --> 01:04:33.660 Yeah. 01:04:33.660 --> 01:04:37.560 Like why, why would I lie about, yeah, I, I don't have money, but it's 01:04:37.560 --> 01:04:39.300 not because I, I'm not, I'm lazy. 01:04:39.390 --> 01:04:41.880 Mm-hmm , it's just cuz of the nature of what I'm doing. 01:04:41.970 --> 01:04:42.120 Yep. 01:04:42.510 --> 01:04:48.780 So, um, so I have had to connect with many different people to help 01:04:48.785 --> 01:04:54.270 me understand a lot of different things, cuz my mind wasn't anywhere 01:04:54.330 --> 01:04:57.420 involved in these types of, um, ideas. 01:04:57.990 --> 01:05:01.470 So what I've been doing with. 01:05:02.640 --> 01:05:05.730 Some of the guidance and, you know, like suggestions from Sean is 01:05:06.299 --> 01:05:08.970 actively going out and meeting people. 01:05:09.029 --> 01:05:12.419 So like when it first started, I didn't like meeting people. 01:05:12.450 --> 01:05:12.870 Sure. 01:05:13.350 --> 01:05:16.799 I, I stayed by myself, whatever I don't didn't feel comfortable. 01:05:17.310 --> 01:05:22.500 So what I started doing was, um, my Instagram, I was just randomly 01:05:22.500 --> 01:05:24.720 talk to people and just be like, Hey, you wanna go for coffee? 01:05:25.350 --> 01:05:26.850 And then I would just go for really? 01:05:26.850 --> 01:05:27.149 Yeah. 01:05:27.870 --> 01:05:28.859 Just, Hey, you wanna go for coffee? 01:05:28.859 --> 01:05:31.290 And these are people that, you know, or these are just, maybe you don't 01:05:31.290 --> 01:05:35.700 know, just through Instagram, like that kind of either acquaintance right. 01:05:35.879 --> 01:05:36.419 Or friends. 01:05:36.629 --> 01:05:36.810 Sure. 01:05:36.814 --> 01:05:40.470 But they were mostly less, not, not, not quite friends. 01:05:40.529 --> 01:05:40.830 Sure. 01:05:41.160 --> 01:05:43.589 So, um, I would just engage with people. 01:05:43.950 --> 01:05:47.460 And meet them and talk to them and learn from them and understand 01:05:47.460 --> 01:05:50.460 their perspectives and people that I would never talk to mm-hmm so 01:05:50.460 --> 01:05:52.140 it was a lot of people like that. 01:05:52.140 --> 01:05:53.910 Like no hugely eye opening. 01:05:54.029 --> 01:05:55.200 Let me rephrase that though. 01:05:55.290 --> 01:06:00.540 Um, there were people that I would normally not have spoken to right. 01:06:00.600 --> 01:06:02.250 Based on how you were in the past. 01:06:02.279 --> 01:06:02.520 Sure. 01:06:02.549 --> 01:06:02.879 Yeah. 01:06:03.149 --> 01:06:07.680 So for me, that was massive and there were bumps in the road for sure. 01:06:07.710 --> 01:06:10.290 Cuz my ego would get in the way and having conversations with these people. 01:06:10.710 --> 01:06:15.480 But, and I was listening to you and Sean talk on the podcast yesterday, there are 01:06:15.484 --> 01:06:18.569 striking similarities, more so than not. 01:06:18.690 --> 01:06:19.020 Right. 01:06:19.259 --> 01:06:25.230 So we're way I noticed in my experience, we're way more similar than we are. 01:06:25.379 --> 01:06:27.120 We just have different ways of saying things. 01:06:27.450 --> 01:06:27.480 Mm. 01:06:27.480 --> 01:06:29.009 And we may be on different. 01:06:30.600 --> 01:06:35.009 We may be on different like parts of the same journey. 01:06:35.310 --> 01:06:35.339 Mm. 01:06:35.370 --> 01:06:39.000 So like someone may be farther, further along than the other, but 01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:40.560 we're all going in the same direction. 01:06:40.680 --> 01:06:41.250 That's right. 01:06:41.430 --> 01:06:47.025 And um, So I, for me, it's just reminding myself of that a lot too. 01:06:47.055 --> 01:06:52.815 And understanding that and then, um, yeah, just being more com I'm 01:06:52.815 --> 01:06:54.105 trying to be more compassionate. 01:06:54.105 --> 01:06:56.505 It's a very massive tenant in the sick religion as well. 01:06:56.505 --> 01:06:56.835 Right. 01:06:56.840 --> 01:06:57.155 Mm. 01:06:57.375 --> 01:07:00.255 And the words called Deia, D a Y a and it's compassion. 01:07:00.675 --> 01:07:00.915 Okay. 01:07:00.945 --> 01:07:02.085 It's a fundamental tenant. 01:07:02.655 --> 01:07:03.675 You gotta be compassionate. 01:07:03.675 --> 01:07:06.825 So I haven't been . So how does that manifest itself? 01:07:06.825 --> 01:07:11.115 Like when you talk about being compassionate empathy, I want to 01:07:11.115 --> 01:07:13.965 be able to put myself into some of those shoes and not judge them. 01:07:14.205 --> 01:07:14.565 Okay. 01:07:14.955 --> 01:07:19.245 And I want to, how else does that mean compassionate? 01:07:19.305 --> 01:07:23.145 Um, so giving grace to people. 01:07:23.595 --> 01:07:24.015 Okay. 01:07:24.315 --> 01:07:24.645 Right. 01:07:25.155 --> 01:07:28.695 And I guess that's a Christian term, but I've, I, I, I'm not sure. 01:07:28.725 --> 01:07:28.905 Yeah. 01:07:28.905 --> 01:07:29.475 It sounds like it. 01:07:29.475 --> 01:07:29.835 Yeah. 01:07:29.895 --> 01:07:31.785 But I think, um, so grace. 01:07:34.830 --> 01:07:36.870 Not, yeah, not judging all these things. 01:07:36.870 --> 01:07:38.339 Like just being, being more. 01:07:39.420 --> 01:07:42.509 I feel more now, too, actually, since I've been, um, since I've 01:07:42.509 --> 01:07:45.299 been, um, working on myself mm I'm. 01:07:45.299 --> 01:07:47.610 Way more emotional than I ever have been. 01:07:48.450 --> 01:07:50.160 Like, uh, I, I was a wall. 01:07:50.339 --> 01:07:50.370 Mm. 01:07:51.360 --> 01:07:54.120 But now I can cry fairly easy now. 01:07:54.630 --> 01:07:57.000 Um, which is which I'm kind of happy about. 01:07:57.000 --> 01:08:03.930 I think I'm just a, a I'm I feel like I'm, I'm an kind of like an empath. 01:08:03.930 --> 01:08:08.430 Like I feel a lot of people's energy and, and, and I can sense things sometimes. 01:08:08.460 --> 01:08:08.819 I don't know. 01:08:08.819 --> 01:08:10.110 It sounds kind of strange woo. 01:08:10.110 --> 01:08:11.130 But not really. 01:08:11.160 --> 01:08:11.970 You're open to it now. 01:08:11.970 --> 01:08:12.330 Yeah. 01:08:12.330 --> 01:08:16.529 And maybe over the years of working in law enforcement for 18 years and, and 01:08:16.529 --> 01:08:20.470 really honing my craft and what I was good at, I was very observant and I'd. 01:08:21.194 --> 01:08:24.375 Um, pay attention to people's behaviors and the change of behaviors. 01:08:24.974 --> 01:08:28.665 And then, um, responding based on that. 01:08:28.755 --> 01:08:31.545 Mm-hmm so if I feel it may, it sounds like feeling energy, 01:08:31.545 --> 01:08:34.904 but I'm probably subconsciously observing, uh, change of behavior. 01:08:34.904 --> 01:08:37.035 And what's going on your verbal, your para verbal, your 01:08:37.040 --> 01:08:38.535 nonverbal, your body language. 01:08:38.564 --> 01:08:38.625 Yeah. 01:08:38.630 --> 01:08:41.295 What you said, how you said it, the intonation and inflection. 01:08:41.295 --> 01:08:41.804 Absolutely. 01:08:41.835 --> 01:08:45.585 And all those things come in, but there is that gut feeling that goes with all of 01:08:45.585 --> 01:08:50.415 that and that's based off past experiences and how you've seen things unfold. 01:08:50.474 --> 01:08:53.325 Last time I saw a person go all red in their face and 01:08:53.325 --> 01:08:54.255 start clenching their fists. 01:08:54.255 --> 01:08:55.064 They were angry, right? 01:08:55.064 --> 01:08:55.125 Yeah. 01:08:55.175 --> 01:08:56.234 Yeah, no, absolutely. 01:08:56.240 --> 01:08:58.965 That's uh, Yeah, man. 01:08:58.965 --> 01:09:02.984 That's, uh, that's kind of, what's been happening over the last little law, man. 01:09:02.984 --> 01:09:04.274 It's been a, it's been a trip, man. 01:09:04.274 --> 01:09:04.845 It's been a trip. 01:09:04.965 --> 01:09:07.845 Well, they say, okay, so you're saying like, you're kind of like a wall. 01:09:08.475 --> 01:09:09.795 They see a person's getting angry. 01:09:09.885 --> 01:09:10.064 Yeah. 01:09:10.125 --> 01:09:10.545 Okay. 01:09:10.545 --> 01:09:14.205 There's all these psychological and physiological responses, right. 01:09:14.205 --> 01:09:15.975 And the heart rate's going up and you're getting angry. 01:09:15.975 --> 01:09:19.064 Your breathing's changing your, your mind's racing and there's 01:09:19.064 --> 01:09:20.774 all this energy that comes in. 01:09:21.225 --> 01:09:24.734 How much energy does it take to put that wall up and to stop it? 01:09:24.734 --> 01:09:27.495 I'll tell you exactly about 400 calories burned in about 10 minutes. 01:09:27.825 --> 01:09:28.394 There you go. 01:09:28.484 --> 01:09:30.644 Where do you get that metric from my whoop strap. 01:09:31.875 --> 01:09:34.635 no, I'll tell you when I was at, when I was really dealing with major stress. 01:09:34.640 --> 01:09:34.845 Sure. 01:09:35.024 --> 01:09:37.575 I, I, I monitor all my metrics. 01:09:37.604 --> 01:09:37.814 Sure. 01:09:37.875 --> 01:09:39.524 For cuz I'm active, I'm working. 01:09:39.524 --> 01:09:43.215 I'm trying to, trying to train properly and I would see, so this whoop strap 01:09:43.215 --> 01:09:46.635 would, um, when your heart rate elevates, even if you're not working out. 01:09:46.995 --> 01:09:47.024 Mm. 01:09:47.115 --> 01:09:50.175 And it elevates for a long duration of time, it'll track it. 01:09:50.354 --> 01:09:50.385 Mm. 01:09:50.894 --> 01:09:56.475 And I'd be at work talking to someone and in low risk scenario, 01:09:57.435 --> 01:09:58.455 For some reason what's going up. 01:09:59.325 --> 01:10:02.625 I would burn, like in, let's say in a half an hour, it'd be like running 5k. 01:10:03.225 --> 01:10:03.705 Wow. 01:10:03.855 --> 01:10:06.015 And I would look at my thing, I'd be what the heck's going 01:10:06.020 --> 01:10:08.685 on, but I would have a response. 01:10:09.105 --> 01:10:09.945 Interesting. 01:10:10.035 --> 01:10:10.275 Yeah. 01:10:10.275 --> 01:10:14.455 And that, even though the wall is up and I'm talking to somebody and 01:10:14.685 --> 01:10:20.205 maybe they're being rude or nothing major, but just being in the Dick. 01:10:20.265 --> 01:10:20.415 Right. 01:10:20.415 --> 01:10:20.625 Yeah. 01:10:20.925 --> 01:10:26.835 And, um, it would be me controlling my, myself, not wanting to get angry as 01:10:26.835 --> 01:10:29.925 my response cuz I'm, I'm not a flight. 01:10:29.955 --> 01:10:30.825 I'm more of a fight. 01:10:30.855 --> 01:10:31.275 Sure. 01:10:31.605 --> 01:10:37.215 And, um, but containing everything just, but I would feel it, my heart, I would 01:10:37.215 --> 01:10:40.515 feel it and I'd feel a little bit of sweat in the heart rate and all these things, 01:10:40.905 --> 01:10:45.765 but you wouldn't be able to really see me acting on it is all you're feeling 01:10:45.765 --> 01:10:49.485 is love back on the Instagram and, and social media that you're putting out. 01:10:49.485 --> 01:10:51.765 Are you getting people that are hating on you? 01:10:53.835 --> 01:10:54.375 I don't know. 01:10:54.434 --> 01:10:57.315 Uh, I it's been, I don't know why they'd wanna hate on me. 01:10:57.315 --> 01:10:58.424 I'm just doing something nice. 01:10:58.514 --> 01:10:59.775 No, no, I, I, I get it. 01:10:59.775 --> 01:11:04.785 I've been noticing all like, very, very supportive. 01:11:05.054 --> 01:11:10.080 Awesome, very, um, it's it's humbling, man. 01:11:10.440 --> 01:11:10.890 Awesome. 01:11:10.890 --> 01:11:11.970 Honestly, it's humbling, man. 01:11:11.970 --> 01:11:16.650 It makes it, it, some days it brings tears to my eyes based 01:11:16.650 --> 01:11:18.210 on where I was a year ago. 01:11:18.210 --> 01:11:21.660 If I look at the Delta over the last 12 months, it's like, wow, man, I 01:11:21.660 --> 01:11:23.610 made it this far in just, just a year. 01:11:23.780 --> 01:11:25.250 No kidding in a year, man. 01:11:26.100 --> 01:11:31.230 It's amazing what can happen in a year of just working on things and, and, 01:11:31.230 --> 01:11:37.020 and I get messages fairly frequently now on my Instagram, people DMing 01:11:37.020 --> 01:11:42.870 me on just positive messages or, um, Hey, I heard this and, or, Hey 01:11:42.870 --> 01:11:44.100 man, can you help me out with this? 01:11:44.100 --> 01:11:45.510 Or, and I'm like, fuck, man. 01:11:45.510 --> 01:11:47.070 Like, it's not. 01:11:47.340 --> 01:11:47.550 It's awesome. 01:11:47.550 --> 01:11:48.180 That's pretty cool. 01:11:48.210 --> 01:11:48.900 It's awesome, man. 01:11:48.960 --> 01:11:51.750 And that's pretty neat because everyone talks about, you know, how social media 01:11:51.750 --> 01:11:56.730 could be negative and you can't expect to be growing as a person or as a 01:11:56.730 --> 01:12:01.530 business or as a, whatever it might be without seeing change happen around you. 01:12:01.535 --> 01:12:04.350 And anytime you stick your finger in the bowl of water, you're 01:12:04.350 --> 01:12:05.940 gonna see some ripples, right. 01:12:05.940 --> 01:12:06.150 And. 01:12:06.780 --> 01:12:11.100 If all you're getting back from that is positivity, more power to you. 01:12:11.310 --> 01:12:12.270 Keep, keep it rolling. 01:12:12.330 --> 01:12:15.210 Speaking of ripples, I want to, I'm not sure how we're doing it on time, 01:12:15.210 --> 01:12:19.020 but I wanna mention this, uh, for sure before we go, cuz I have, I have, 01:12:19.025 --> 01:12:23.540 uh, before I start and this plan to run across Canada has been really, 01:12:23.830 --> 01:12:27.060 uh, it's a five year plan, right. 01:12:27.060 --> 01:12:28.680 And I started a year and a half, two years ago. 01:12:28.710 --> 01:12:29.940 It's nothing's deviated. 01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:35.820 Other than it's the only thing that's changed is I've I'm making it harder. 01:12:36.750 --> 01:12:37.560 how are you making it harder? 01:12:37.680 --> 01:12:41.040 Because initially I was thinking, I just wanna do what Terry Fox did. 01:12:41.100 --> 01:12:42.390 Oh, now you wanna beat the record? 01:12:42.390 --> 01:12:42.720 Yeah. 01:12:43.150 --> 01:12:46.080 because I can run 42 K a day now. 01:12:46.320 --> 01:12:46.950 Right. 01:12:47.130 --> 01:12:48.990 So if I have another year and a half, what can I do? 01:12:49.290 --> 01:12:49.980 Mm. 01:12:50.100 --> 01:12:53.580 Cause the goal was to run in 20, 25, but after a year of training I can run 50 K. 01:12:53.580 --> 01:12:57.390 Now I could, I, it won't be easy, but I'll grind it out for four or five months. 01:12:57.395 --> 01:12:57.990 I could do that. 01:12:57.990 --> 01:12:58.440 I could do it. 01:12:58.540 --> 01:13:01.950 Mm-hmm and um, so then I thought, oh shit, man, if I can do that right now, 01:13:01.980 --> 01:13:03.810 how much more can I do if I, if I train. 01:13:04.304 --> 01:13:06.495 Quit my like, leave my job, focus a hundred percent. 01:13:06.554 --> 01:13:09.615 Hire this person, hire this person, hire like do all the things mm-hmm. 01:13:10.530 --> 01:13:11.340 what can I do then? 01:13:11.400 --> 01:13:17.430 That's why I feel very confident based on what I did last year with nothing mm-hmm 01:13:17.730 --> 01:13:21.360 and then what I'm doing now with little bit mm-hmm and then what I'm gonna do 01:13:21.365 --> 01:13:26.850 over the next year with a lot more mm-hmm so I just wanna see what I'm capable of. 01:13:27.190 --> 01:13:29.100 I wanna, I wanna see what I can do. 01:13:29.105 --> 01:13:31.560 Mm-hmm I don't know if I can break the record and the 01:13:31.560 --> 01:13:32.880 likelihood is not that great. 01:13:33.180 --> 01:13:35.820 cause I'm if, if you look statistically, it's not gonna happen. 01:13:35.825 --> 01:13:38.250 If you don't make set that in your sight as a goal, but 01:13:38.250 --> 01:13:39.630 it's my ultimate goal, right? 01:13:39.750 --> 01:13:40.230 To do it. 01:13:40.235 --> 01:13:42.120 I'm training to do it. 01:13:42.120 --> 01:13:46.530 I've hired a phenomenal coach, Ron low he's like fast as shit. 01:13:46.890 --> 01:13:48.570 Like he's getting my time down. 01:13:48.600 --> 01:13:52.980 Cuz what I need to do is not just run, um, a lot of K's but I gotta run 01:13:52.980 --> 01:13:54.750 those K's in a certain amount of time. 01:13:54.810 --> 01:13:55.200 Mm. 01:13:55.260 --> 01:13:59.100 So my pace can't be like eight minutes per kilometer running a hundred K that's not, 01:13:59.130 --> 01:14:04.680 that's not, it's gotta be like five and a half minutes per kilometer, which is nuts. 01:14:05.250 --> 01:14:07.710 Yes, it is it, which is nuts. 01:14:07.715 --> 01:14:08.360 Mm-hmm and. 01:14:09.120 --> 01:14:11.760 Dave Proctor was doing six minutes per kilometer. 01:14:11.830 --> 01:14:12.150 Wow. 01:14:12.960 --> 01:14:15.060 For 67 days, which is nuts. 01:14:15.090 --> 01:14:21.480 Mm-hmm . So for me to do what he did, and he was an ultra endurance athlete, 01:14:21.780 --> 01:14:25.500 his entire life, he's done 30, 40, 50 marathons, and all these other things. 01:14:25.530 --> 01:14:31.380 Mm-hmm, , I'm just an athlete trying to do something and see if I can do something 01:14:31.380 --> 01:14:34.710 remarkable if given the time mm-hmm 01:14:34.980 --> 01:14:37.290 So I'm just like seeing what's possible. 01:14:37.830 --> 01:14:38.160 Right. 01:14:38.430 --> 01:14:42.180 And, and, and, um, that's the story. 01:14:42.185 --> 01:14:43.800 I think there's so many stories here. 01:14:43.860 --> 01:14:44.130 Sure. 01:14:44.135 --> 01:14:49.140 But I think if we can, like, if I can share anything at any point, not now, 01:14:49.170 --> 01:14:52.470 cuz I'm still in it, but maybe in a few years down the road, once everything's all 01:14:52.470 --> 01:14:57.300 said and done and I can sit back and say, Hey man, look, you know, it is possible. 01:14:57.390 --> 01:14:58.290 Proof's in the pudding. 01:14:58.350 --> 01:14:59.670 Mm-hmm this is where I was. 01:14:59.700 --> 01:15:00.480 This is where I'm at. 01:15:00.485 --> 01:15:00.810 Now. 01:15:00.900 --> 01:15:02.130 This is where this is happening. 01:15:02.135 --> 01:15:03.990 This is how many millions of dollars are going over here. 01:15:04.170 --> 01:15:06.510 This is how many millions of people are affected by what we're doing. 01:15:06.780 --> 01:15:07.020 Like. 01:15:09.375 --> 01:15:11.835 It will be a failure if it's not permanent. 01:15:12.105 --> 01:15:15.915 And like over a period of time in my eyes, it sounds like you 01:15:15.915 --> 01:15:17.085 got a book in the works too. 01:15:18.705 --> 01:15:20.535 Uh, so we're working on the documentary now too. 01:15:20.540 --> 01:15:20.865 Right? 01:15:20.865 --> 01:15:21.045 Good. 01:15:21.045 --> 01:15:25.755 So that started, uh, preliminary shooting started, um, Sunday. 01:15:25.965 --> 01:15:26.265 Okay. 01:15:26.865 --> 01:15:30.525 And, um, we're gonna slowly start building on it and track everything 01:15:30.525 --> 01:15:32.655 for the next two, three years and yeah. 01:15:32.655 --> 01:15:38.655 Book, whatever, whatever will help more people and get the message out I'm up for. 01:15:38.865 --> 01:15:39.165 Right. 01:15:39.405 --> 01:15:42.615 And I wanted to mention these, these three things. 01:15:42.615 --> 01:15:45.225 I only set three personal goals for myself. 01:15:45.255 --> 01:15:45.555 Okay. 01:15:45.945 --> 01:15:49.575 Like not need 'em goals, three personal things I want to achieve. 01:15:49.725 --> 01:15:49.935 Okay. 01:15:50.085 --> 01:15:52.935 And they weren't monetary at all. 01:15:53.565 --> 01:15:58.725 And this might seem bit, um, interesting for you and maybe the listeners. 01:15:58.785 --> 01:16:01.665 And I think it's, anyways, I'll say I'll let you know. 01:16:01.755 --> 01:16:01.845 Yeah. 01:16:01.845 --> 01:16:02.325 Let's hear it. 01:16:05.280 --> 01:16:06.360 It's gonna sound. 01:16:06.389 --> 01:16:08.910 And this is what I said to myself a year and a half ago, when I first started, 01:16:10.620 --> 01:16:13.889 I'm gonna have Cameron Hayes run 50 K with me when I'm run across Canada 01:16:14.219 --> 01:16:17.009 and I'm gonna have David Goggins run 50 K with me when I run across Canada. 01:16:17.519 --> 01:16:20.190 And the reasons are this I'll get to third one. 01:16:20.219 --> 01:16:20.549 Okay. 01:16:21.059 --> 01:16:26.250 The reasons are this, I would've never known it was a thing. 01:16:26.250 --> 01:16:27.719 Had I not heard Cameron Hays. 01:16:27.900 --> 01:16:28.530 Mm. 01:16:28.920 --> 01:16:32.700 So I think it would be awesome if I could tell him that, that he has a 01:16:32.700 --> 01:16:34.679 hand in helping millions of people. 01:16:35.130 --> 01:16:40.170 And that's a gift I'd like to be able to give him same thing for David Goggins. 01:16:40.170 --> 01:16:41.460 I wouldn't have started running. 01:16:41.460 --> 01:16:43.559 Had I not read those first two chapters. 01:16:44.309 --> 01:16:48.599 And again, what we're about to do will affect a lot of people. 01:16:49.019 --> 01:16:51.900 And I think it would be an awesome thing to be able to share that with someone 01:16:51.900 --> 01:16:57.719 who inspired me to do that or not inspired me, motivated me to do that. 01:16:57.780 --> 01:16:58.230 Sure. 01:16:58.440 --> 01:17:01.455 And then number three, in 2026. 01:17:01.455 --> 01:17:02.895 I'll be on Joe Rogan's podcast. 01:17:03.285 --> 01:17:04.575 2026. 01:17:04.875 --> 01:17:04.995 Yeah. 01:17:04.995 --> 01:17:05.985 That's that's gonna happen. 01:17:05.985 --> 01:17:06.885 The reason is this awesome. 01:17:06.915 --> 01:17:15.495 The reason is this, um, whatever people say about that podcast, I think, I think 01:17:16.215 --> 01:17:18.915 it's a good platform if you want it to be. 01:17:19.665 --> 01:17:22.245 And for me, like in terms of his show, very much so. 01:17:22.335 --> 01:17:26.505 And I think for me, I I've always wanted to do jujitsu. 01:17:26.805 --> 01:17:27.075 Mm. 01:17:28.275 --> 01:17:30.945 Joe Rogan was a massive fan, so he always talked about it. 01:17:30.945 --> 01:17:33.105 Mm-hmm it pushed me over the fence. 01:17:33.105 --> 01:17:34.065 And I started jujitsu. 01:17:35.895 --> 01:17:38.265 I would've never known who Cameron Haynes was. 01:17:38.270 --> 01:17:40.005 Had he not been on that podcast? 01:17:40.005 --> 01:17:45.045 Mm, I would've never known who David Goggins was if he wasn't on the podcast. 01:17:45.045 --> 01:17:47.955 So I'd love to be able to go on that podcast, not to talk about 01:17:47.960 --> 01:17:52.305 me, not to share whatever else is to give him the gift that. 01:17:53.565 --> 01:17:57.255 He, he inspired and motivated someone to help a whole shit ton of people. 01:17:57.705 --> 01:18:01.755 And I think, um, that'll, I'll make that happen too. 01:18:01.995 --> 01:18:07.215 And I think those are the three things that I want to make sure actually happen. 01:18:09.045 --> 01:18:11.085 I can see each and every one of those things happening. 01:18:11.625 --> 01:18:15.705 And the only way they'll happen is if you set them as a goal, mm-hmm , they 01:18:15.705 --> 01:18:17.445 don't just happen by happenstance. 01:18:17.445 --> 01:18:19.305 It doesn't just fall in your lap. 01:18:19.905 --> 01:18:22.635 And if it does, there are reasons why these things clean. 01:18:22.635 --> 01:18:23.685 It came up to you. 01:18:23.885 --> 01:18:27.825 Mm-hmm I can see each one of those happening for sure. 01:18:27.855 --> 01:18:28.635 Absolutely man. 01:18:28.635 --> 01:18:33.825 And I think it's now I'm taking more of a responsibility on a lot of things. 01:18:33.830 --> 01:18:36.795 Mm-hmm, how I kind of think of things now is like, look, if I'm, 01:18:37.215 --> 01:18:40.725 when I do all this stuff, the reality is it'll change my life. 01:18:41.955 --> 01:18:42.585 for sure. 01:18:42.705 --> 01:18:44.684 Mm-hmm, change your life change. 01:18:44.684 --> 01:18:48.525 And everyone's daughter's life, your flows around you, family, every single 01:18:48.525 --> 01:18:52.844 person, every single person's life around me, a rising tide floats all boats. 01:18:53.054 --> 01:18:53.294 Yeah. 01:18:53.294 --> 01:18:57.554 And I think that's an amazing responsibility that I I'm actually 01:18:57.585 --> 01:19:03.165 owning now, which will help inspire and motivate and drive me even more. 01:19:04.094 --> 01:19:04.335 Right. 01:19:04.335 --> 01:19:05.445 It'll push me even harder. 01:19:05.445 --> 01:19:07.544 I add more things to motivate myself. 01:19:07.544 --> 01:19:08.804 You wanna know another thing that I'm adding? 01:19:08.804 --> 01:19:08.865 Yeah. 01:19:09.464 --> 01:19:13.065 Cause I have to put these extra things on to get me to freaking go. 01:19:13.155 --> 01:19:13.605 Okay. 01:19:13.785 --> 01:19:16.184 I'm gonna, once I retire from the agency. 01:19:16.245 --> 01:19:16.424 Yeah. 01:19:16.485 --> 01:19:19.544 And I, I get my pension, I'm donating a hundred percent of. 01:19:20.250 --> 01:19:21.000 I don't want it. 01:19:21.150 --> 01:19:22.710 I want it to help other people. 01:19:23.460 --> 01:19:23.790 Right. 01:19:23.940 --> 01:19:27.150 So now that sounds crazy and people can go, oh, what are you gonna do for 01:19:27.150 --> 01:19:29.880 life or your money and this, that, and the other look, I'll figure that 01:19:29.880 --> 01:19:31.500 out because I'm doing that right now. 01:19:31.980 --> 01:19:35.310 So the goal is to make a substantial amount of money so I can donate 01:19:35.310 --> 01:19:36.750 all of that money and I'll need it. 01:19:37.010 --> 01:19:37.570 Right. 01:19:37.570 --> 01:19:41.820 So that'll push me and drive me to really, at least that's how I frame it in my head. 01:19:42.330 --> 01:19:43.470 Cuz I set that goal. 01:19:43.560 --> 01:19:43.800 Yeah. 01:19:43.800 --> 01:19:47.100 If I don't have that goal there, it's not gonna be an imagination. 01:19:47.220 --> 01:19:50.969 Like I won't, I won't think of like that pension will be worth $2 million. 01:19:51.030 --> 01:19:51.390 Sure. 01:19:51.570 --> 01:19:54.150 So it's just a number. 01:19:54.600 --> 01:19:55.740 It is just a number, right? 01:19:55.745 --> 01:20:00.840 So, so people gets, and when I say people I've told people this mm-hmm 01:20:01.050 --> 01:20:05.220 and they're like, whoa, they all freak out and I'm like, look, man, I'm good 01:20:05.220 --> 01:20:10.590 with 50 K a year mm-hmm and that's a good, and that's a good realization to 01:20:10.590 --> 01:20:12.330 find out what it is that drives you. 01:20:12.360 --> 01:20:13.470 What makes you happy? 01:20:13.890 --> 01:20:16.200 You know, fight club, what you own owns you, right? 01:20:16.260 --> 01:20:19.350 The more things that you have, the more you want to ACC accumulate, the 01:20:19.350 --> 01:20:21.930 more you're going to be owned by that. 01:20:21.990 --> 01:20:22.380 Right. 01:20:22.385 --> 01:20:26.880 Um, Jim Carey, when he was young, he's like, I'm writing myself 01:20:26.880 --> 01:20:28.260 a check for a million dollars. 01:20:28.260 --> 01:20:29.430 I'm gonna cast it at this date. 01:20:29.430 --> 01:20:33.060 And he set all this old goal process and, and he achieved it. 01:20:33.360 --> 01:20:36.720 And I made for a neat story and all, all the rest. 01:20:36.720 --> 01:20:40.950 And he later goes on and says, you know, that was a fun role playing Jim Carey. 01:20:41.340 --> 01:20:41.580 Right. 01:20:41.580 --> 01:20:42.330 That was fun. 01:20:42.870 --> 01:20:45.330 That was, uh, lucky to be able to, uh, to get that part. 01:20:45.360 --> 01:20:51.990 And people all laugh and he says, you know, things have changed, right. 01:20:51.995 --> 01:20:55.290 I famously says, I want everyone to have all the money in the world so 01:20:55.290 --> 01:20:59.910 they can realize that, that it does not bring you happiness, but the. 01:21:00.840 --> 01:21:05.370 The goal setting of what you are looking to achieve tends to change. 01:21:05.370 --> 01:21:10.470 As you start progressing down that path, I've seen in many people mm-hmm and 01:21:10.475 --> 01:21:13.890 if you're able to identify now that money is not the motivator for you, 01:21:14.370 --> 01:21:15.660 you're gonna have everything you need. 01:21:15.900 --> 01:21:17.400 Mm-hmm it'll all work out. 01:21:17.730 --> 01:21:18.000 Yeah. 01:21:18.005 --> 01:21:18.900 I mean, that's the thing, right? 01:21:18.905 --> 01:21:22.950 Like, uh, I've I've, as, as soon as I established that and what, what 01:21:22.950 --> 01:21:25.230 I need to live, then it was simple. 01:21:25.769 --> 01:21:28.260 Mm-hmm because it makes it easier to make the decision. 01:21:28.620 --> 01:21:28.890 Right. 01:21:28.894 --> 01:21:32.670 Then I can, then I can figure out how do I get that money so I can 01:21:32.670 --> 01:21:33.870 live the life that I wanna live. 01:21:34.019 --> 01:21:34.830 Mm-hmm right. 01:21:34.835 --> 01:21:38.340 So let's say if it's 50 K well, okay, let me write some proposals. 01:21:38.460 --> 01:21:39.540 Let me get some investors. 01:21:39.600 --> 01:21:40.650 Let me get some sponsors. 01:21:40.769 --> 01:21:42.180 Let me do blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 01:21:42.570 --> 01:21:44.280 And then I can start actively doing things. 01:21:44.280 --> 01:21:49.170 So now I've created something, um, over a year time that I can 01:21:49.170 --> 01:21:52.140 actually present to people and say, Hey man, this is what I'm doing. 01:21:52.680 --> 01:21:52.830 I. 01:21:53.714 --> 01:21:56.775 Help mm-hmm is anyone willing to invest? 01:21:56.834 --> 01:21:59.684 Mm-hmm in, let's say the documentary, or maybe someone wants 01:21:59.684 --> 01:22:02.235 to sponsor me as a, as an athlete. 01:22:02.235 --> 01:22:05.775 Who's doing something and, and maybe you can contribute to the cause a couple 01:22:05.924 --> 01:22:07.275 thousand here or a thousand there. 01:22:07.304 --> 01:22:08.264 Oh, whatever it is. 01:22:08.294 --> 01:22:08.384 Yep. 01:22:08.955 --> 01:22:13.875 Um, so the, now with the website, which is up today, um, which is, I don't know 01:22:13.875 --> 01:22:15.075 what the date is, but it's up today. 01:22:15.125 --> 01:22:15.445 Yeah. 01:22:15.525 --> 01:22:19.304 Um, and, um, there's gonna be a section on the website where people 01:22:19.394 --> 01:22:22.214 can do that and they can, if someone wants to be a sponsor, they can click 01:22:22.214 --> 01:22:23.264 on there and give their information. 01:22:23.264 --> 01:22:24.044 I can contact them. 01:22:24.044 --> 01:22:24.735 We can go from there. 01:22:24.945 --> 01:22:25.214 Right. 01:22:25.275 --> 01:22:28.815 Um, there's also a section where if people wanna volunteer for some 01:22:28.820 --> 01:22:32.684 of the stuff that we're doing, they can fill that out and they can help. 01:22:33.630 --> 01:22:36.300 Because I'm gonna have multiple things happening throughout the 01:22:36.300 --> 01:22:39.060 years over the next, like, this is not gonna be a small thing. 01:22:39.090 --> 01:22:40.230 It doesn't happen all by yourself. 01:22:40.230 --> 01:22:40.560 No. 01:22:40.560 --> 01:22:42.240 And, and I need lots of help. 01:22:42.240 --> 01:22:45.240 And, um, look, I already have my plan for what I'm gonna do for 01:22:45.240 --> 01:22:46.860 next run to remember already. 01:22:47.270 --> 01:22:51.390 I'm gonna run from, I'm gonna run from Ashock BC to usin to 345 K and three days. 01:22:51.395 --> 01:22:52.470 Holy Crow. 01:22:52.500 --> 01:22:53.190 That that's the plan. 01:22:53.310 --> 01:22:53.640 Yeah. 01:22:53.730 --> 01:22:54.660 So I'll do that too. 01:22:55.020 --> 01:22:56.160 And we'll document all that. 01:22:56.160 --> 01:23:02.010 I'm going to Toronto on the, uh, 12th of, uh, October to run on the, uh, Toronto 01:23:02.010 --> 01:23:03.630 waterfront marathon, October 16th. 01:23:03.690 --> 01:23:06.210 Mm-hmm . And I'm doing that to pace somebody that I've 01:23:06.215 --> 01:23:07.740 met through social media. 01:23:07.740 --> 01:23:12.120 Who's, um, not an avid runner, but they, they started and I was like, 01:23:12.150 --> 01:23:14.280 that'd be kind of cool to meet new people and go out there and fly. 01:23:14.340 --> 01:23:16.710 And that I planned that a few months ago. 01:23:16.740 --> 01:23:18.720 Now it's turning into something else. 01:23:19.230 --> 01:23:20.880 Like people found out I was coming. 01:23:20.880 --> 01:23:24.330 Some people have registered for the marathon just because I'm gonna be 01:23:24.330 --> 01:23:25.230 there and they want to hang out. 01:23:25.980 --> 01:23:26.730 Do cool things. 01:23:26.735 --> 01:23:30.990 Mm-hmm and, um, Toronto police service, a few people that I know there are 01:23:30.990 --> 01:23:34.799 connecting with me and they wanna, you know, kind of hang out and do like a 01:23:34.799 --> 01:23:37.799 5k run and like these different things. 01:23:37.799 --> 01:23:40.559 And then my director videographer he's coming, he's filming the 01:23:40.559 --> 01:23:41.669 entire thing while we're there. 01:23:42.059 --> 01:23:47.280 Um, he's gonna interview people, so it's hopefully he can run no, got some 01:23:47.280 --> 01:23:48.480 more, he's got some work to do, man. 01:23:48.480 --> 01:23:49.530 We were filming on Sunday. 01:23:49.530 --> 01:23:50.009 It was awesome. 01:23:50.009 --> 01:23:51.929 He's like, Hey man, so I'm gonna run next to you. 01:23:51.929 --> 01:23:52.830 Just don't run so fast. 01:23:54.629 --> 01:23:54.900 I go? 01:23:54.900 --> 01:23:55.919 How's that gonna look on camera? 01:23:55.919 --> 01:23:56.250 Come on. 01:23:56.254 --> 01:23:56.669 Yeah, man. 01:23:56.669 --> 01:23:59.400 It's gotta look, but anyways, it was it's just honestly, I'm 01:23:59.400 --> 01:24:02.009 I'm I feel extremely honored. 01:24:02.040 --> 01:24:08.129 I feel extremely, um, I feel, I feel blessed, man. 01:24:08.190 --> 01:24:11.070 I don't know why I feel like no, I let me rephrase that. 01:24:11.219 --> 01:24:15.960 I feel blessed and I know why, cuz I'm finally able to start 01:24:15.960 --> 01:24:20.849 living my purpose and I'm I. 01:24:22.394 --> 01:24:27.495 Acting and speaking as my authentic self for my entire 01:24:27.495 --> 01:24:28.995 life, that hasn't been the case. 01:24:29.025 --> 01:24:32.025 So you can see me as I'm slightly fidgety, the camera can kind of see it. 01:24:32.025 --> 01:24:34.995 And I, uh, kind of look all over the place when I talk and stuff. 01:24:34.995 --> 01:24:40.305 Now I've only started doing that over the last couple years more because I'm 01:24:40.305 --> 01:24:45.434 taking the wall down and for most of my life, I hadn't shown those behaviors. 01:24:45.525 --> 01:24:45.795 Mm. 01:24:45.855 --> 01:24:46.875 I controlled them all. 01:24:46.894 --> 01:24:48.735 Mm-hmm my dad when I was young. 01:24:48.735 --> 01:24:52.905 So, um, my brother's three years older than me, my brothers, we, we all have our 01:24:52.905 --> 01:24:54.855 own issues, mental health wise, I think. 01:24:55.425 --> 01:25:03.135 And, um, my brother, um, he, he, you know, taps his foot a lot, you know, and 01:25:03.135 --> 01:25:07.934 as a young kid, my dad would rip him and he shows weakness, what are you doing? 01:25:07.934 --> 01:25:09.075 Blah, blah, blah, blah, all this kind of stuff. 01:25:09.224 --> 01:25:12.215 And I heard my dad say that mm-hmm and he stopped. 01:25:12.855 --> 01:25:16.485 I controlled every sort of fidget, excellent containment. 01:25:16.575 --> 01:25:16.875 Yeah. 01:25:17.535 --> 01:25:19.304 And, um, now I'm like, no, man. 01:25:19.365 --> 01:25:19.455 Huh. 01:25:20.144 --> 01:25:24.224 And I remember when I used to go into meetings with, I used to be, uh, very 01:25:24.224 --> 01:25:28.065 involved in the union and I would have, um, meetings with management and I would 01:25:28.065 --> 01:25:30.405 always be very composed and controlled. 01:25:30.405 --> 01:25:33.644 And after those meetings exhausted, sure. 01:25:33.825 --> 01:25:34.665 Exhausted. 01:25:34.705 --> 01:25:36.525 I, I was like, why am I so exhausted? 01:25:36.974 --> 01:25:38.205 Cause I was controlling everything. 01:25:38.264 --> 01:25:40.065 Mm-hmm, mentally exhausted. 01:25:40.424 --> 01:25:42.495 So now I'm like, you know what, whatever I'm gonna be, who I am. 01:25:42.500 --> 01:25:46.184 If people think I'm weird, whatever people think I'm fidgety, whatever, if 01:25:46.184 --> 01:25:49.094 people think I'm not really looking at them or whatever it is, I don't care 01:25:49.094 --> 01:25:52.094 anymore because, um, it doesn't matter. 01:25:52.934 --> 01:25:56.955 it's kind of neat reaching that point in your life where you just stop caring. 01:25:57.915 --> 01:25:58.094 Yeah. 01:25:58.094 --> 01:25:59.714 Caring about what other people think. 01:25:59.714 --> 01:25:59.775 Yeah. 01:25:59.804 --> 01:26:03.405 Caring about other opinions, caring about external things. 01:26:03.990 --> 01:26:08.130 To you and just caring about what it is that you're able to provide and 01:26:08.130 --> 01:26:12.000 you're able to do and how you're able to positively affect those around you. 01:26:13.139 --> 01:26:14.790 I mean, just that sounds awesome. 01:26:15.540 --> 01:26:16.139 That sounds awesome. 01:26:16.139 --> 01:26:17.490 Just the way you say it, right? 01:26:17.490 --> 01:26:20.790 Like it's, um, man, I I'll say it a million times. 01:26:20.795 --> 01:26:23.670 If you just feel fortunate, I feel super fortunate. 01:26:24.360 --> 01:26:28.830 I am really looking forward to watching and tracking your progress through here. 01:26:28.860 --> 01:26:30.840 I'm gonna have all this stuff up on the, uh, awesome. 01:26:30.840 --> 01:26:33.000 The show notes in the, the podcast on YouTube. 01:26:33.030 --> 01:26:36.150 Is there anything that we haven't talked about that we should talk 01:26:36.150 --> 01:26:37.380 about before we wrap up here? 01:26:38.580 --> 01:26:43.470 Um, no, I think everything's gonna be, um, on, on, on the podcast, 01:26:43.590 --> 01:26:44.490 all the links and everything. 01:26:44.490 --> 01:26:48.510 So no, I just want everyone to, uh, no, what do I want? 01:26:48.599 --> 01:26:53.639 I, um, I just appreciate anyone who's listening to this. 01:26:54.045 --> 01:26:57.555 And, um, I appreciate you for having me on to be able to speak 01:26:57.555 --> 01:26:58.815 about what I'm, what I'm doing. 01:26:59.415 --> 01:27:04.095 And, um, I just look forward to many more years of doing something 01:27:04.099 --> 01:27:09.195 like this, and I appreciate you and everyone who's listening such, 01:27:09.195 --> 01:27:10.305 and the pleasure is all mine. 01:27:10.394 --> 01:27:12.075 I'm looking forward to watching you grow. 01:27:12.585 --> 01:27:13.474 Thank you so much, bro.