WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.200 Hey, Jeff, I got a question for you. Yes, are 2 00:00:02.240 --> 00:00:03.000 you a player? 3 00:00:03.759 --> 00:00:04.559 Not really. 4 00:00:06.080 --> 00:00:11.080 Today today? I love how he just immediately said no, moub. 5 00:00:11.599 --> 00:00:15.439 But today we're talking about all the players in the story, right, 6 00:00:15.720 --> 00:00:17.839 Who are the people who are the main players? That's 7 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:18.399 what we're talking. 8 00:00:18.280 --> 00:00:21.879 About, that's right, people and events in the book Revelation 9 00:00:22.000 --> 00:00:23.960 and throughout the rest of the end time. So he's 10 00:00:24.039 --> 00:00:25.600 Chris and I'm Jeff, and we're the Bible place. 11 00:00:37.840 --> 00:00:41.600 All right, Well, Jeff, today we are given a list 12 00:00:41.640 --> 00:00:42.799 of who's most likely? 13 00:00:42.880 --> 00:00:44.640 Oh, these are fun Now, if you're. 14 00:00:44.479 --> 00:00:47.399 Watching as opposed to listening, then you'll see that we 15 00:00:47.479 --> 00:00:50.479 have paddles in our hands, and we have Jeff on 16 00:00:50.479 --> 00:00:53.119 one side and then the good looking guy on the 17 00:00:53.200 --> 00:00:56.119 other side. And so it's our job to hear and 18 00:00:56.159 --> 00:00:58.399 then hold up who we think that's right? Is most likely? 19 00:00:58.439 --> 00:00:59.920 My picture looks like I'm about to knee. 20 00:01:01.159 --> 00:01:04.159 You think it really does? Yeah, it really does? And 21 00:01:04.200 --> 00:01:07.959 mine I'm explaining something I think yep. So here we go. Okay, 22 00:01:08.120 --> 00:01:12.439 number one, who's most likely? This is funny. Who's most 23 00:01:12.519 --> 00:01:15.000 likely to eat something off of the ground? 24 00:01:15.280 --> 00:01:15.359 Me? 25 00:01:16.079 --> 00:01:18.640 I'd say me too, really, Oh yeah, you lead off 26 00:01:18.680 --> 00:01:20.599 the ground. I totally have the five second rule. 27 00:01:20.680 --> 00:01:22.359 Oh, I have like the thirty five second rule. 28 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:26.760 Do you remember the episode of Seinfeld when George Costanza 29 00:01:27.120 --> 00:01:31.079 ate the donut in the garbage. Yes, somebody had set 30 00:01:31.079 --> 00:01:32.959 the Eclaire on the top of the garbage. 31 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:36.200 He's like, it was right on to didn't even touch anything. Yeah, 32 00:01:36.200 --> 00:01:37.760 I totally agree with him in the whole episode. 33 00:01:37.760 --> 00:01:40.760 By the way, it's great. Okay, here we go. Number two. 34 00:01:41.319 --> 00:01:45.719 Who's most likely to take days to reply to a text? 35 00:01:46.040 --> 00:01:46.400 Jeff? 36 00:01:46.680 --> 00:01:48.760 That'd be Jeff. I don't know if you know this 37 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:52.239 or not, but I reply almost always immediately. 38 00:01:52.760 --> 00:01:56.000 Yeah, yeah, you reply, you ply it quickly, Yeah, very quickly. 39 00:01:56.200 --> 00:01:58.799 Huh So it's because your phone is an appendage. 40 00:01:59.200 --> 00:02:00.959 Yeah, well that's what my family need. 41 00:02:01.599 --> 00:02:04.040 And you've taught everybody that that is their leash. They 42 00:02:04.079 --> 00:02:05.599 can yank that leash whenever they want. 43 00:02:05.879 --> 00:02:06.239 Yeah. 44 00:02:06.599 --> 00:02:09.879 Yeah, And everybody's figured out my phone is not my leash, 45 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:11.919 and I'll check it when I want to. I'll get 46 00:02:11.960 --> 00:02:13.120 back to you, right right. 47 00:02:13.400 --> 00:02:16.520 Yeah, Well, there's benefits. There's definitely benefits and drawbacks. 48 00:02:16.560 --> 00:02:18.639 The bet if you need me really bad, call me 49 00:02:18.919 --> 00:02:20.280 because I'll answer if you call. 50 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:24.919 That's good, all right, Number three. Who's most likely to 51 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:27.039 plan the best birthday party? 52 00:02:27.520 --> 00:02:30.680 Chris, Yeah, that's definitely yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 53 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:35.400 So I definitely love planning surprises and detailed things for 54 00:02:35.439 --> 00:02:39.919 my family especially. Yeah, and I've done my share of things. 55 00:02:40.360 --> 00:02:43.039 Uh you know that when one time when I was 56 00:02:43.159 --> 00:02:46.240 dating my wife, I rented a U haul and in 57 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:48.080 the back of the U haul, first of all, I 58 00:02:48.159 --> 00:02:50.800 backed it up to like a lake and a beautiful scene. 59 00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:53.240 And then in the U haul I put a fine 60 00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:56.599 dining table with candles and everything else, and everything was 61 00:02:56.639 --> 00:02:58.800 in this U haul And then I brought her to 62 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:00.960 it and then open the U haul door and we 63 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:03.479 had this beautiful candle at dinner. Oh and then I 64 00:03:03.560 --> 00:03:05.840 just hauled it away. Look how nice I can give 65 00:03:05.840 --> 00:03:09.319 you like seventeen of those creative daty Yeah. Yes, so 66 00:03:09.360 --> 00:03:10.520 I liked all of that stuff. 67 00:03:10.560 --> 00:03:11.000 That's great. 68 00:03:11.199 --> 00:03:14.599 So here we go. Number four. Who's most likely to 69 00:03:14.800 --> 00:03:16.719 sleep walk throughout the night? 70 00:03:17.800 --> 00:03:19.319 Oh? Not me, It's got to be you. 71 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:21.879 I don't know who to put here. I guess I'll 72 00:03:21.879 --> 00:03:24.159 put me because I do get up in the night, 73 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:26.199 but it's usually to use the restroom. 74 00:03:26.360 --> 00:03:29.400 Yeah, dude, I am shocked when it's time to wake 75 00:03:29.479 --> 00:03:34.439 up like somebody. If my alarm goes off, it startles me. 76 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:37.879 If if somebody touches me, I'm ready to fight. I'm 77 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:42.360 so deeply asleep. Really yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't yeah it. 78 00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:44.879 I don't believe even though I don't sleep walk, it 79 00:03:44.919 --> 00:03:46.199 would probably mean yeah. 80 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:49.199 Be me. I'm dead. I'm dead to the world, and 81 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:50.400 I resurrect every morning. 82 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:55.400 So so one more quick reference Big Bang theory. Bob 83 00:03:55.479 --> 00:03:59.120 Hope was playing an old man and Charlotte Sheldon knocks 84 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:03.039 on the door. No, Bob Hope NewART and and uh 85 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:06.639 and Bob Sheldon knocks on the door, and he goes, uh, 86 00:04:06.719 --> 00:04:08.280 and he goes, no, I was up. He goes, well, 87 00:04:08.280 --> 00:04:10.159 I have to go to bed now. He goes, I 88 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:12.280 have to go to bed, because he goes in about 89 00:04:12.280 --> 00:04:14.080 two hours, he goes, I have to get up to 90 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:18.879 pee and then just wander around the house. He's like 91 00:04:18.920 --> 00:04:21.240 a nine year old man, right, because that's what they do, 92 00:04:21.920 --> 00:04:25.319 all right. Number five, who's most likely to own a 93 00:04:25.399 --> 00:04:28.439 pet chicken? There's no question. 94 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:30.480 I've already owned it's. 95 00:04:29.879 --> 00:04:32.399 I know it's you. You'll get a whole story about you. 96 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:34.079 In our county. 97 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:36.360 I won. I won against the city to have chickens 98 00:04:36.399 --> 00:04:36.879 at my house. 99 00:04:37.120 --> 00:04:40.639 That is hilarious. All right, Well, we're gonna go ahead 100 00:04:40.680 --> 00:04:44.240 and move on, and we're gonna move right back into 101 00:04:45.959 --> 00:04:48.759 the people in the events of the end Times, and 102 00:04:48.800 --> 00:04:50.360 we'll be doing this for several days. 103 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:52.639 Oh yeah, yeah, this is pretty much it. The first 104 00:04:52.759 --> 00:04:55.000 couple of days we were laying the foundation trying to 105 00:04:55.079 --> 00:04:59.040 encourage people. Now it's we're getting into the nitty gritty. 106 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:02.680 And again, just to remind you, don't you know, watch 107 00:05:02.680 --> 00:05:06.600 out for polarization. There's people who have very strong opinions 108 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:09.680 about the things we're going to talk about, stronger opinions 109 00:05:09.720 --> 00:05:14.079 than are reasonable. Because we just can leave it at that. 110 00:05:14.279 --> 00:05:17.839 Yeah, and another disclaimer is that we're the Bible guys, 111 00:05:17.920 --> 00:05:20.920 and we don't claim to be theologians or professors. We 112 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:24.959 are two guys that know the Bible and teach the Bible, 113 00:05:25.399 --> 00:05:27.600 and so we like to talk about the Bible. So 114 00:05:28.399 --> 00:05:28.800 this is. 115 00:05:28.839 --> 00:05:30.839 Almost certainly on a casual level, is what we're doing 116 00:05:30.879 --> 00:05:31.079 in this. 117 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:35.639 Yeah, and so we're not covering revelation in detail, and 118 00:05:35.680 --> 00:05:38.800 we're also not going from chapter to chapter. What we're 119 00:05:38.839 --> 00:05:40.879 doing is, as we're saying, these are the highlights. These 120 00:05:40.879 --> 00:05:43.480 are the main events. Let's talk about what we know 121 00:05:43.759 --> 00:05:47.199 is coming in generalizations, because to be honest with you, 122 00:05:47.639 --> 00:05:50.680 revelation people are the ones who comment the most, the 123 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:53.160 comment forever, and they have the strongest opinions. 124 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:56.920 Yes, yes, So what we're going to say is we're 125 00:05:56.920 --> 00:05:59.639 going to kind of take what would be the mainstream view. 126 00:05:59.800 --> 00:06:04.879 The majority of Christians globally and historically have believed along 127 00:06:04.920 --> 00:06:09.759 these lines for the last thousand years. But uh, we 128 00:06:09.920 --> 00:06:14.879 are accepting the fact that there are minority groups of 129 00:06:14.920 --> 00:06:18.839 theologians that would differ with these things, right sure, and 130 00:06:18.879 --> 00:06:21.360 so we're we love them and we're fine with the 131 00:06:21.399 --> 00:06:23.560 fact that they have a different things. 132 00:06:23.639 --> 00:06:24.240 Absolutely. 133 00:06:24.319 --> 00:06:27.959 So the first one and by far the most controversial one, 134 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:31.079 would be what is called the rapture of the church. 135 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:33.800 Although the word rapture of the church doesn't exist, that 136 00:06:33.839 --> 00:06:37.720 phrase doesn't exist in the Bible. This idea rapture is 137 00:06:37.720 --> 00:06:39.959 the Latin for caught. 138 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:41.360 Up, caught up in the air. 139 00:06:42.079 --> 00:06:44.639 And there's different different views on this. So some people 140 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:51.439 believe in a rapture that happens before the tribulation. Tribulation, Yeah, 141 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:54.399 raptor and rapture is two different things, different things, very 142 00:06:54.439 --> 00:06:55.279 astute Chris. 143 00:06:55.399 --> 00:06:58.480 Yeah, one of them, Chris Pratt works with, that's right, 144 00:06:58.560 --> 00:07:01.639 and the other one is the second company, that's the rapture. 145 00:07:01.720 --> 00:07:09.000 Yeah, so velociraptor Velocira. Yeah. So then, boy, you got 146 00:07:09.040 --> 00:07:11.360 me distracted there. So there are some who believe there's 147 00:07:11.399 --> 00:07:12.879 a tribulation. We're gonn talk about that, and then the 148 00:07:12.920 --> 00:07:15.319 tribulation is the bad part seven years, really really bad. 149 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:18.360 Some people believe that the rapture of the church happens 150 00:07:18.600 --> 00:07:19.639 before the. 151 00:07:19.560 --> 00:07:22.319 Bad stuff happened, which is which is pre right, that's 152 00:07:22.319 --> 00:07:26.040 a pree tribulation of pre tribulation. That's referring to how 153 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:30.160 all the Christians will be exempt from all the trials 154 00:07:30.199 --> 00:07:33.519 and tribulations of the seven years because they get raptured 155 00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:35.519 up before that happens. 156 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:38.560 Caught up bodily taven. Yes, that's right. Then there's people 157 00:07:38.560 --> 00:07:41.920 who believe in a mid trib because. 158 00:07:41.639 --> 00:07:43.680 That's clearly divided with three and a half years and 159 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:45.560 three and a half years, that's right. And in the 160 00:07:45.600 --> 00:07:48.839 Bible they describe fourteen and twenty days or whatever it is, 161 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:54.079 forty two months, you know, I mean it lists very clearly. 162 00:07:53.879 --> 00:07:57.079 In the first three and a half years. It's pretty good, right, 163 00:07:57.079 --> 00:07:59.439 there's a lot of global stability and wealth and all 164 00:07:59.480 --> 00:08:02.199 those kinds of thing. So people are like, hey, we 165 00:08:02.240 --> 00:08:03.680 want to go in the middle. I don't I don't 166 00:08:03.720 --> 00:08:06.680 want to miss the good part. Right, So some people 167 00:08:06.720 --> 00:08:10.439 have like a middle of the trib tribulation view. Others 168 00:08:10.480 --> 00:08:13.839 would have a post tribulation, meaning the Christians will go 169 00:08:13.959 --> 00:08:15.639 all the way through it. And it's because the Bible 170 00:08:15.639 --> 00:08:18.120 talks about martyrs and things, and so there's some people 171 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:21.720 believe that there there's a that the rapture happens at 172 00:08:21.720 --> 00:08:25.199 the end of the tribulation or after the tribulation, and 173 00:08:25.240 --> 00:08:28.600 that there's just one time that all of the of 174 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:30.800 a resurrection. And then there's some people who don't believe 175 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:34.559 in any rapture at all. They're called a tribulation or 176 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:40.320 you know, no rapture, right, but that's not Uh, that's 177 00:08:40.480 --> 00:08:42.879 probably the most obscure of all of the different views. 178 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:46.759 So the majority of Western Christians would say that they're 179 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:50.360 pre trib they believe in apture. So, uh, that's we 180 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:52.679 tried to give that as fair of a thing. I 181 00:08:52.720 --> 00:08:56.399 would I would land. I think I would land pre 182 00:08:56.480 --> 00:08:59.200 trib and be content with mid trib and I'm ready 183 00:08:59.240 --> 00:09:01.519 for post. That's how I describe it. 184 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:04.080 Just be prepared, Yeah, just be really prepared. 185 00:09:04.360 --> 00:09:06.039 Yeah, what about you? Where do you fall? 186 00:09:06.120 --> 00:09:07.919 Yeah? I lean toward what you know, we were raised 187 00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:10.600 and taught the same way and I and when I look, 188 00:09:10.639 --> 00:09:14.720 and more importantly, pre trip makes sense to me. So 189 00:09:15.399 --> 00:09:19.320 regardless of you know, regardless of whether or not the 190 00:09:19.360 --> 00:09:21.200 first three and a half years are different than the 191 00:09:21.279 --> 00:09:23.360 last three and a half years, I think that it 192 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:26.360 just makes sense. Yeah, so lean that way. But again, 193 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:27.480 I'm not committed to it. 194 00:09:28.360 --> 00:09:30.960 So this idea of the rapture is Jesus coming back 195 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:32.879 and getting his people right. That's really what it is. 196 00:09:33.039 --> 00:09:35.759 John fourteen three. Jesus said, when everything is ready, I'll 197 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:37.759 come and get you so that you will always be 198 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:38.919 with me. Hey where I am. 199 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:40.919 By the way, can I tell you why I'm not 200 00:09:40.919 --> 00:09:42.519 committed to it? I just felt like I had to 201 00:09:42.559 --> 00:09:44.639 follow up in that comment because I don't think it 202 00:09:44.639 --> 00:09:47.320 matters that much. Yeah yeah, yeah, So whether or not 203 00:09:47.360 --> 00:09:50.159 I get you know, raptured before the three and a 204 00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:52.159 half years, or after three and a half years, or 205 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:54.559 even post three and a half years, right, like like 206 00:09:54.720 --> 00:09:57.279 you know, you sort of said, you know, be ready, Yeah, 207 00:09:57.320 --> 00:10:00.000 you know, you know, here we go, buckle up. Yeah, 208 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:02.399 a lot of these things for me, because I'm such 209 00:10:02.399 --> 00:10:06.360 an application person. I'm like, well, whether how it plays 210 00:10:06.360 --> 00:10:07.919 out is how it's gonna play out. 211 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:09.480 I'm not in charge of this, right, I'm not in 212 00:10:09.559 --> 00:10:10.000 charge of it. 213 00:10:10.200 --> 00:10:12.120 Right. I just don't like it's going to matter. 214 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:13.279 Other than it's not like you stepped up to the 215 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:17.200 counter said i'd like a pre tribulation rapture ticket, right right, Yeah, 216 00:10:17.360 --> 00:10:18.559 I'm sorry, we're a pretribulation. 217 00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:22.080 Don't be wrong. Here's a post trip but bye by. 218 00:10:22.120 --> 00:10:24.039 When I say it doesn't matter, I don't mean that 219 00:10:24.080 --> 00:10:27.440 the truths themselves don't matter, because I'm not saying I 220 00:10:27.480 --> 00:10:29.759 don't mean it doesn't matter in the sense the words 221 00:10:29.840 --> 00:10:32.600 they're not important. Right. What I'm saying is for me 222 00:10:32.720 --> 00:10:35.080 it doesn't matter, oh right, because I'm saying like it's 223 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:37.519 not gonna make a difference in my life, sure, right, yeah, 224 00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:39.840 because how it plays out is how it's gonna play out. Yeah. 225 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:41.399 So he says he's gonna come and get you when 226 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:44.279 he's ready. That's when he's ready, not when you're ready. 227 00:10:44.279 --> 00:10:48.080 When he's ready. Right, So, so Matthew twenty four Jesus 228 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:50.679 says and then at last, the sign that the Sun 229 00:10:50.679 --> 00:10:52.559 of Man is coming will appear in the heavens. We 230 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:55.600 already talked about that sun, moona stars, all that creazah. Yeah, 231 00:10:55.639 --> 00:10:57.879 And there'll be deep mourning among all the peoples of 232 00:10:57.919 --> 00:10:59.679 the earth, and they will see the Son of Man 233 00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:02.600 come out on the clouds of heaven with power and glory, 234 00:11:02.840 --> 00:11:04.879 and he will send out his angels with the mighty 235 00:11:04.960 --> 00:11:07.399 blast of a trumpet, and they will gather his chosen 236 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:10.399 ones from all over the world, from the farthest ends 237 00:11:10.440 --> 00:11:12.720 of the earth in heaven. There it is, there you go. 238 00:11:12.919 --> 00:11:16.480 So he's gathering his chosen ones there, he's gathering believers, right, 239 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:19.120 And so some people would say that that's only in 240 00:11:19.159 --> 00:11:23.360 connection to the final return of Christ, the second Coming, 241 00:11:23.519 --> 00:11:26.279 which is different. This one though, doesn't say he comes 242 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:30.240 to earth. This one says he's in heaven, right, So anyways, 243 00:11:30.279 --> 00:11:32.840 who knows. And then but it does say he's coming, 244 00:11:32.840 --> 00:11:35.480 and there'll be a mighty trumpet blast, and Gabriel's gonna 245 00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:37.519 let her fly on the horn, and he's going to 246 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:41.639 bring his people home first. Thessaloni's chapter four says, and now, 247 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:43.440 dear brothers and sisters, we want you to know what 248 00:11:43.480 --> 00:11:45.559 will happen to the believers who've died, so that you 249 00:11:45.559 --> 00:11:47.759 will not grieve like people who have no hope. For 250 00:11:47.799 --> 00:11:49.600 since we believe that Jesus died and was raised to 251 00:11:49.600 --> 00:11:52.120 life again, we also believe that when Jesus returns, God 252 00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:54.120 will bring back with him the believers who have died. 253 00:11:54.639 --> 00:11:57.480 We tell you this directly from the Lord. We who 254 00:11:57.519 --> 00:11:59.840 are still living when the Lord returns, will not meet 255 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:02.320 him ahead of those who have died, For the Lord 256 00:12:02.399 --> 00:12:04.960 himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, 257 00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:07.879 with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet 258 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:11.000 call of God. First the believers who have died will 259 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:14.120 rise from their graves, and then together with them, we 260 00:12:14.279 --> 00:12:16.559 who are still alive and remain on the earth, will 261 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:18.240 be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord 262 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:19.879 in the air. And then we will be with the 263 00:12:19.879 --> 00:12:24.039 Lord forever. So encourage each other with these words. So 264 00:12:24.720 --> 00:12:27.120 the idea here is he's wanting to cover the fact 265 00:12:27.120 --> 00:12:29.320 that the that the rapture is not just for the living, 266 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:33.000 it's also for those believers who've already died ahead of us. 267 00:12:33.320 --> 00:12:36.559 Yeah, and so there's and there's different views on this too, right, 268 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:40.600 so and by the way, it's people. Some people believe 269 00:12:40.919 --> 00:12:44.840 that heaven is not immediate. As we understand it is 270 00:12:45.240 --> 00:12:47.840 that like people die, they go into the earth and 271 00:12:47.879 --> 00:12:51.559 then actually heaven is reserved for this moment. Yeah, right, 272 00:12:51.960 --> 00:12:56.440 but because God exists out of time and space, it'll 273 00:12:56.480 --> 00:12:58.799 be immediate. So other other persons. 274 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:00.559 Here, Heebres says, to be absent from the body is 275 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:01.440 to be present with the Lord. 276 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:03.679 That's what I was about to quote, right, So, so 277 00:13:03.799 --> 00:13:06.639 it will seem immediate to me. But but but the 278 00:13:06.639 --> 00:13:09.320 time as we know it, it's not immediate. So so 279 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:12.639 there's there's sorts, there's all sorts of nuances that are 280 00:13:12.679 --> 00:13:14.039 attached to this. 281 00:13:14.159 --> 00:13:15.960 Theologically, we're just not going to fight it. 282 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:17.759 Yeah, we're not gonna fight No, we're not gonna fight it. 283 00:13:17.840 --> 00:13:21.200 And again this is where this is where I know 284 00:13:21.279 --> 00:13:24.919 it sounds funny, but it doesn't matter to me, right exactly. 285 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:28.120 So it doesn't matter to me because because like listen, 286 00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:30.879 that's why I don't care to fight it, because here's 287 00:13:30.919 --> 00:13:34.360 here's what I know. When I die, immediately, I'm gonna 288 00:13:34.399 --> 00:13:37.240 be with the Lord. So so how that plays out 289 00:13:37.360 --> 00:13:39.480 for my dust of my body, sure, I don't really 290 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:42.639 care r right. I just know that, like, uh, you know, 291 00:13:42.879 --> 00:13:45.399 by the way, So, so the rapture is God comes 292 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:49.039 for his people, and then this describes uh, the second 293 00:13:49.039 --> 00:13:52.960 coming coming back after the seven years. God comes with 294 00:13:53.120 --> 00:13:56.120 his people, right, so you know, for it comes for 295 00:13:56.200 --> 00:13:59.159 the church, comes with the church, right and and and 296 00:13:59.240 --> 00:14:03.960 so anyway, I do believe that the visual here is 297 00:14:04.039 --> 00:14:06.840 again just something that's supposed to be again intimidating, but 298 00:14:06.840 --> 00:14:08.919 at the same time very comforting for us. 299 00:14:09.320 --> 00:14:12.440 That's right. And you really one of the other evidences 300 00:14:12.519 --> 00:14:15.600 that people would point to for a pre tribulation rapture 301 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:18.600 would be that in the book or Revelation, churches aren't 302 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:23.919 really mentioned. After Revelation what three I believe, and it 303 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:26.200 seems to be that the churches from that point on, 304 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:29.480 the tribulation happens and church isn't referenced anymore. The believers 305 00:14:29.480 --> 00:14:34.440 aren't referenced anymore. Only martyrs are reference. But no no church, 306 00:14:34.759 --> 00:14:38.320 no Holy Spirit reference in the world at that time. 307 00:14:38.240 --> 00:14:41.279 Which raises another question. Will there be converts and then 308 00:14:41.399 --> 00:14:42.600 martyrs in the time? 309 00:14:42.960 --> 00:14:43.200 Yeah? 310 00:14:43.399 --> 00:14:45.720 Yeah, during that time? So what martyrs are we talking about? 311 00:14:45.759 --> 00:14:46.840 Yeah, we'll talk about that. 312 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:49.000 Martyrs old or martyrs of you know, new. 313 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:52.240 Martyrs martyrs in the tribulation the one hundred and forty 314 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:54.559 four thousand, I mentioned that way. Yeah, so we'll talk 315 00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:56.840 about that. So here's the issue though, with regard to 316 00:14:56.879 --> 00:14:59.720 a rapture. When it will happen? Shouldn't detract from the 317 00:14:59.720 --> 00:15:02.960 fact that it will happen. Right, There will be a 318 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:05.519 time when Jesus comes back. There will be a time 319 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:08.559 when the trumpet blasts. There will be a time when 320 00:15:08.799 --> 00:15:11.399 all of his saints are going to heaven with him, Right, 321 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:15.120 so when uh, shouldn't distract from the insurance that it will. Now, 322 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:16.919 what do you think is going to happen? How will 323 00:15:17.919 --> 00:15:21.399 the governments of the world explain what happened to two 324 00:15:21.440 --> 00:15:23.320 billion Christians disappearing all at one time? 325 00:15:25.039 --> 00:15:27.799 You know, It's just I don't know, but I have 326 00:15:27.919 --> 00:15:31.399 a feeling that aliens will be involved. 327 00:15:31.399 --> 00:15:33.559 Oh, I totally think that that's going to be the argument. 328 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:37.679 They're going to say, Oh, aliens took everybody. Yeah, well again, 329 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:40.480 what other claim could you make? 330 00:15:40.799 --> 00:15:43.480 No, you couldn't. You couldn't make any other claim besides that, right, 331 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:45.919 maybe uh maybe vaccines. 332 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:49.639 Yeah, well, vaccines didn't make everybody disappear. I just kidding. 333 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:52.440 I was trying to think of something hilarious to say. 334 00:15:53.440 --> 00:15:55.200 But I think that's what's going to be. I think 335 00:15:55.200 --> 00:15:56.480 we're being conditioned for it now. 336 00:15:56.720 --> 00:16:00.759 Yeah, yeah, the aliens. Yeah well, I mean again, it's 337 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:02.480 just it's the we talked about it a couple of 338 00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:05.919 podcasts ago. But like when you see all these signs, 339 00:16:06.279 --> 00:16:08.960 there will be people connecting the dots and saying, see, 340 00:16:08.960 --> 00:16:11.799 this is the Book of Revelation. But then then there'll 341 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:14.200 be people who so don't believe in God. They're going 342 00:16:14.279 --> 00:16:16.120 to say, of course you're going to say that, right, right, 343 00:16:16.159 --> 00:16:18.120 because there is a logical explanation, right. 344 00:16:18.159 --> 00:16:19.919 The logical explanation is aliens. 345 00:16:21.399 --> 00:16:23.000 Well, I mean, well. 346 00:16:22.879 --> 00:16:24.960 That's what they're going to do though, right, that's what they're. 347 00:16:24.799 --> 00:16:28.240 Going to say, say, say, you know, it's it's certainly 348 00:16:28.279 --> 00:16:31.720 logical to yeah, to I would think half of the 349 00:16:31.759 --> 00:16:34.159 world or more sure, absolutely they believe in aliens. 350 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:36.960 Yeah. Well, so most of the world just believes whatever 351 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:40.440 the experts say and what the science leads to. So 352 00:16:40.440 --> 00:16:41.960 alls they have to do is have a couple of sciences, 353 00:16:41.960 --> 00:16:43.759 get on TV and go this is what we believe in. 354 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:45.759 Shame on you don't. You're not allowed to post anything 355 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:47.639 on Facebook or Twitter. That's any different from what we 356 00:16:47.720 --> 00:16:50.080 just told you. It was aliens quit arguing with us. 357 00:16:50.159 --> 00:16:53.000 Hey, by the way, uh, we don't have that much time, 358 00:16:53.039 --> 00:16:55.440 but just really quickly, do you believe in aliens? 359 00:16:55.720 --> 00:16:55.840 No? 360 00:16:56.480 --> 00:17:01.039 Yeah, so so so the my professor I think I 361 00:17:01.080 --> 00:17:03.879 mentioned this way back in h Daily. My college professor 362 00:17:03.960 --> 00:17:06.079 pointed out that in Genesis it said he created the 363 00:17:06.079 --> 00:17:10.000 stars and the hosts of them. So he said, so 364 00:17:10.079 --> 00:17:13.359 there's room for aliens. But at the same time, theologically 365 00:17:13.400 --> 00:17:16.680 doesn't make any sense, and like that, but like I 366 00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:18.839 also heard another hero of mine. 367 00:17:19.319 --> 00:17:22.359 Talking about to be clear that the hosts that Hebrew 368 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:26.599 word is a huge number of them. Yeah, the hosts 369 00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:30.319 would be the huge number of right, right, right, implying 370 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:33.960 that there are more stars than you can see? Is what? What? 371 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:36.839 Which is true? That that's which is what the Hebrew 372 00:17:36.839 --> 00:17:37.519 word is saying. 373 00:17:37.559 --> 00:17:39.440 Which is along the same lines where he says a 374 00:17:39.480 --> 00:17:40.880 host of heavenly angels. That's right. 375 00:17:40.880 --> 00:17:43.480 It's not talking about the hostesses and the hosts of 376 00:17:43.599 --> 00:17:46.920 the you know, welcome to our star. It's not talking about. 377 00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:49.680 Right, which we would say. 378 00:17:51.440 --> 00:17:54.200 On this star if they landed on if they landed 379 00:17:54.200 --> 00:17:57.640 on this planet. We'd shoot them. That's really well anyways, 380 00:17:57.640 --> 00:17:58.640 go ahead anyway. 381 00:17:58.839 --> 00:18:00.960 The but then I so one of my hero is 382 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:05.480 Lui Giglio talk about if God's billboard was the universe 383 00:18:05.920 --> 00:18:07.839 to remind us of how big he is and how 384 00:18:07.880 --> 00:18:09.839 small we are, then he's done a good job, did 385 00:18:09.880 --> 00:18:12.839 a great job, because if it's a if creation is 386 00:18:12.839 --> 00:18:17.759 supposed to reflect the Creator, then an infinite and expanding 387 00:18:17.880 --> 00:18:20.680 universe that we will never get to see the ends 388 00:18:20.680 --> 00:18:24.079 of that reminds us of how big God is. But 389 00:18:24.160 --> 00:18:27.000 it can't be big enough. So if you think about 390 00:18:27.039 --> 00:18:30.039 it that way, then it makes total sense. 391 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:34.720 Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, So you have this rapture that happens 392 00:18:35.240 --> 00:18:38.000 most Christians believe it happens before what we call the 393 00:18:38.039 --> 00:18:41.960 Tribulation begins. Now, the tribulation last seven years is divided. 394 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:44.559 We've already said this divided into two three and a 395 00:18:44.599 --> 00:18:48.680 half year segments, and during that time many things happen. 396 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:51.839 Most of what we talk about next happens over the 397 00:18:51.880 --> 00:18:54.440 next few days happens during the tribulation. So we can't 398 00:18:54.440 --> 00:18:57.319 cover it all right now, but we'll just start dealing 399 00:18:57.319 --> 00:18:59.680 with issues that happened. One of the very first things 400 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:04.359 that happen happens is It talks about how the governments 401 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:06.960