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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Bible. Guys. Here we are.

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<v Speaker 3>I was watching that rolling a minute ago. I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>big boy that rolling.

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<v Speaker 2>You were definitely bigger than you are now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, you look good, baby, I'm almost back

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<v Speaker 3>to fighting.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, that's funny. Yeah, actually I'm bigger on that rolling too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And for those watchings for.

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<v Speaker 3>This, if you're watching, if you're listening, you can't tell

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<v Speaker 3>unless it just sounds like we have a stuffed mouth

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<v Speaker 3>while we're talking. Welcome to the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you're just listening, and you've only just listened,

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<v Speaker 1>you can just imagine us looking like Greek gods.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's I'd imagine that's how they think it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Anybody that ever only has listened to us, they're like,

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<v Speaker 3>these guys are so smart and so handsome.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, And.

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<v Speaker 3>Then if you accidentally see us on YouTube, you're like, what,

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<v Speaker 3>it's one of those never meet your heroes things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well you know what somebody said to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally last Sunday, Once again, they came up to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and they said, who says this out of their mouth?

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<v Speaker 1>This is what this lady said. She's up and she goes, oh, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you look way taller on stage.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. People tell me that all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'm like, oh, thank you, question Mark.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean not as tall as I thought you were.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm five seven, Like, don't remind me.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be I want to be six foot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so be quiet about it.

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<v Speaker 2>She is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny. So anyways, on that video, yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 3>I was fifty pounds heavier than I am. Now, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe time to make a new roll in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe so Yeah, and I'm at least fifteen.

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<v Speaker 3>And for the people that are watching or that are

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<v Speaker 3>listening and have never seen the video, just whatever amazing

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<v Speaker 3>picture you have of us, just put fifty pounds out

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<v Speaker 3>of that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I look like, right right, And I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen pounds, probably lighter.

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<v Speaker 2>Than in the rolling video.

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<v Speaker 1>May we're doing We're doing that fun better than we were.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So here here, Jeff. This is a new

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<v Speaker 1>game called twenty five Words or Less based off of

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<v Speaker 1>some famous talk show that I've never heard of. And

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<v Speaker 1>it says, Chris, you are going to give Jeff clues,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can guess five keywords. However, you can only

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<v Speaker 1>use a max of twenty five words.

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<v Speaker 3>So can we say a total of twenty five words?

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<v Speaker 3>And you have to try to get me to say

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<v Speaker 3>next words?

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<v Speaker 2>So I'll just count them on my fingers.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a hard one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And by the way, I've not thought this through.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so I got I gotta set this up.

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<v Speaker 2>To where I can see it to wear hang on. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So are you ready?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, sir? All right?

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<v Speaker 2>Ready? Words, structure, punctuation.

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<v Speaker 3>Language, grammar books, speech, complete communication, man live. This is

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<v Speaker 3>a hard one, dude, Okay, Can I pass and come

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<v Speaker 3>back to this one?

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<v Speaker 2>Period?

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<v Speaker 3>I said punctuation words? What did you say?

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<v Speaker 2>Words? Words, structure, that's a big one.

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<v Speaker 3>Structure. That's why I said grammar language, English. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Can I skip that one? Let's move

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<v Speaker 3>on Monopoly game, board game? Mm hmm. Okay, not allowed

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<v Speaker 3>to use our hand signal or something, but okay, six words,

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<v Speaker 3>six words, one answer. Type milk, chocolate, chocolate, milk, almond, milk,

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<v Speaker 3>soy milk, fortified milk, I don't know, pasteurized milk, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know fat, two percent milk. I don't know two

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<v Speaker 3>percent milk, low fat milk, low fat milk, low fat

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, uh, zero percent milk. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>zero percent fat milk. I don't know what you want

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<v Speaker 3>me to say.

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<v Speaker 2>It's another word for what you're saying. What is that called, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what is no fat milk called no

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<v Speaker 2>fat milks?

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<v Speaker 3>What I call it?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Man, you say no fat milk.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what am I supposed to say? Zero

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<v Speaker 3>percent skim milk, skim milk? Okay, Okay, I can't believe

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<v Speaker 3>I blew it. Okay, I'm sorry. So we blew that one.

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<v Speaker 2>We blew.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're one for one. We've tried three words.

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<v Speaker 2>We've tried three words. We got one.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's keep all here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Football soccer?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, we got two words, one hundred years a century.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, we got three.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm only on twelve words here.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So we've done four okay, yes, yes, okay, So

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<v Speaker 3>now we got to go back to the one that

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<v Speaker 3>we didn't get, and you got thirteen words to use.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, here we go, uh right, a complete thought

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<v Speaker 1>with punctuation.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, a complete thought sentence.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay, yes, yes, I can't believe you said no

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<v Speaker 1>fat milk.

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<v Speaker 2>That is hilarious. I'm like, I'm like, yes, okay, keep going.

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<v Speaker 3>So we got four out of five, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>our listeners were screaming no fat milk right right.

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<v Speaker 2>They were saying, skim, skim, buddy.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, you don't scream so hard at your at your

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<v Speaker 3>radio while you're driving down the road because the people

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<v Speaker 3>next you think you're crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, radio, Yeah, you mean phone.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if they're driving down the road, they'd be listening.

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<v Speaker 2>To Oh you're assuming they have a new car.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Our listeners are very sophisticated people.

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<v Speaker 2>They are sophisticated people.

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<v Speaker 3>I know. That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, good. That was an interesting game. That was hard.

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<v Speaker 3>It was It was tremendously anxious for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know what, here's the thing. When when you

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<v Speaker 1>see that word hang on, when you see that game

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<v Speaker 1>show on TV, they do all of that in sixty

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<v Speaker 1>seconds or less. Yes, so they give you a they

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<v Speaker 1>give you a timed limit on using twenty fist.

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<v Speaker 3>Why I was trying to pass. Let us get to

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<v Speaker 3>them who we would have gotten two in the minute.

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<v Speaker 2>We we butchered that whole game because it was a

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<v Speaker 2>fun one. Yeah, yeah, we butchered it.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a good one, all right. So for those

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<v Speaker 3>of you that are just tuning in for the first time,

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<v Speaker 3>we're doing highlights of the Old Testament, and we're just

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of guys who talk about the Bible in

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<v Speaker 3>front of fun and practical ways. Right, that's that's about.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're not super sophisticated. We're doing what anybody can do,

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<v Speaker 3>we think, and that's sit down, open the Bible with

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<v Speaker 3>a friend, look at what's on the page. Maybe can

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<v Speaker 3>it through. You know, if you use any kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a study Bible, there's going to be cross references and

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<v Speaker 3>stuff like that kind of connects some of the pieces

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<v Speaker 3>and then figure out what's the application. How does this

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<v Speaker 3>apply to me today? And so because the Bible says

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<v Speaker 3>in a couple of other places that God wrote all

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<v Speaker 3>these things for our example. So it's not like it's

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<v Speaker 3>just telling words for a story for no reason. It's

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<v Speaker 3>for our example. So King David is one of the

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<v Speaker 3>greatest kings of Israel, the greatest king of Israel, but

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<v Speaker 3>he had an issue in his life that wound up,

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<v Speaker 3>causing a lot of things to cascade out of control

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<v Speaker 3>later in his life, especially among his family.

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<v Speaker 1>Which, by the way, side note this Sunday, the message

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<v Speaker 1>that we're preaching this Sunday coming Up talks a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about that. We touch on the fact that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these stories in the Old Testament they either

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<v Speaker 1>point to something symbolic the coming of a Messiah.

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<v Speaker 2>They emphasize law versus grace. You know, those kinds of things.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, how people cannot fulfill the law and be perfect,

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<v Speaker 1>or they predict or they point to so in other words,

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<v Speaker 1>all that to say, these stories that seem sort of

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<v Speaker 1>independent and random, if you piece them all together, you

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<v Speaker 1>can see this scarlet thread that is the story of

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus and God's love that God set into motion honestly

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<v Speaker 1>in the garden of Eden.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's really one big, long love letter.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bible is God's love letter to us and how

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<v Speaker 1>God demonstrates for us everything we need to know. Looking

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<v Speaker 1>back at these stories and saying I understand now you

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<v Speaker 1>know what is needed for heaven and what Jesus has

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<v Speaker 1>done for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Right yep. So by the time our listeners hear this,

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<v Speaker 3>we will have already preached that message. Yes, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>so you can if you didn't get a chance to

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<v Speaker 3>be a part of that. Heritage Church dot com. Heritage

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<v Speaker 3>Church dot com is our church website. You can watch

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<v Speaker 3>the message on archives.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the message I'm referring to is called Fall

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<v Speaker 1>Kickoff and it's September twenty second, twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go. So here we are. Anyways, this cascading

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<v Speaker 3>issue in David's life where things start to fall apart

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit because of bad choices. Ultimately, his son

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<v Speaker 3>Absalom kills his other son, Amnon, because Amnon raped a

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<v Speaker 3>half sister. It's just crazy. So after Absolom kills his brother,

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<v Speaker 3>far away. And joe Ab is one of David's top generals.

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<v Speaker 3>And so you pick up in Second Samuel chapter fourteen,

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<v Speaker 3>and it says joe Ab realized how much the king

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<v Speaker 3>longed to see Absolom, and so he sent for a

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<v Speaker 3>woman from Tacoa who had a reputation for great wisdom.

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<v Speaker 3>And he said to her, pretend you were in mourning

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<v Speaker 3>wear mourning clothes and don't put on lotions, act like

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<v Speaker 3>a woman who's been mourning for the dead for a

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<v Speaker 3>long time. Then go to the king and tell him

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<v Speaker 3>the story I'm about to tell you, and Joeb told

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<v Speaker 3>her what to say. When the woman from Tacoah approached

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<v Speaker 3>the king, she bowed with her face to the ground

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<v Speaker 3>in deep respect and cried out, O King, help me.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the trouble. King asked, Alas, I'm a widow, She replied,

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<v Speaker 3>my husband is dead. My two sons had a fight

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<v Speaker 3>to stop it, one of them was killed. Now the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of the family is demanding let us have your son.

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<v Speaker 3>We will execute him for murdering his brother. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>deserve to inherit his family's property. They want to extinguish

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<v Speaker 3>the only coal I have left, and my husband's name

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<v Speaker 3>and family will disappear from the face of the earth.

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<v Speaker 3>Leave it to me, the king told her. Go home,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you, my lord the king. The woman from Takoa replied,

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<v Speaker 3>the King and his throne be innocent. If anyone objects,

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<v Speaker 3>the King said, bring him to me. I can assure

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<v Speaker 3>Then she said, please swear to me by the Lord

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<v Speaker 3>your God, that you won't let anyone take vengeance against

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<v Speaker 3>my son. I want no more bloodshed. As surely as

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<v Speaker 3>the Lord lives, he replied, not a hair on your

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<v Speaker 3>son's head will be disturbed. Please allow me to ask

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<v Speaker 3>and speak, She replied, why don't you do as much

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<v Speaker 3>up again. But God does not just sweep life away

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<v Speaker 3>and stead he devises ways to bring us back when

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<v Speaker 3>we've been separated from him. I've come to plead with

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<v Speaker 3>from the inheritance. God has given us. Yes, my Lord

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<v Speaker 3>the King will give us peace of mind again. I

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<v Speaker 3>discerning good from evil. And may the Lord your God

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<v Speaker 3>be with you. I must know one thing, the kind replied,

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<v Speaker 3>and tell me the truth. Yes, my Lord the King.

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<v Speaker 3>She responded, did you have put you up to this

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<v Speaker 3>love that's so great? And the woman replied, my Lord

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<v Speaker 3>the King, how can I deny it? Nobody can hide

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<v Speaker 3>anything from you. Yes, Jeb sent me and told me

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<v Speaker 3>wise as an angel of God, and you understand everything

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<v Speaker 3>that happens among us. So the King sent for Joeb

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<v Speaker 3>and told him, all right, go and bring back the

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<v Speaker 3>young man Absalom. Joeb bowed his face to the ground

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<v Speaker 3>in deep respect and said, at last, I know that

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<v Speaker 3>I have gained your approval, my Lord the King, for

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<v Speaker 3>you have granted me this request. Then Joeb went to

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<v Speaker 3>Giescher and brought Absalom back to Jerusalem. But the King

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<v Speaker 3>gave this order. Absolom may go to his own house,

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<v Speaker 3>but he must never come into my presence. And so

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<v Speaker 3>Absolom did not see the king what a story.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's interesting because the only thing that we're starting

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<v Speaker 1>with is the knowledge that David longed to see Absolom,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet when Absolom comes back to the Kingdom, David

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<v Speaker 1>interesting because at first, when we're told that David longs

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<v Speaker 1>to see his son, you assume that David longs to

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, have him back in the house, that

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to hug him, that he wants to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>see him again face to face. But really, what it's

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<v Speaker 1>meaning now that we know the end of the chapter

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<v Speaker 1>is we know that David misses his son terribly, but

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<v Speaker 1>is absolutely convinced that that Absolom should not come home.

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<v Speaker 1>He's absolutely convinced that Absolom should not have any grace

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<v Speaker 1>or mercy to come home. And so Joe Abb does

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<v Speaker 1>this thing, which, by the way, give it up to

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<v Speaker 3>Course, yes she had some guts, although she did say

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>He made me do it, right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And but then David finally brings you know, he sees

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<v Speaker 1>the light, he brings Absolom home, and then he just

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<v Speaker 1>refuses to meet with him or even see him. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's very interesting to me because you sort of have

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<v Speaker 1>to connect the dots on what David really is thinking

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<v Speaker 1>and feeling here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, it's a pretty

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<v Speaker 3>amazing transition here because Joe AB's looking saying, hey, this

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<v Speaker 3>isn't good. One thing that sometimes can be missed is,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, not only did Abslham get revenge against his

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<v Speaker 3>brother for raping his sister Tamar, but he also took

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<v Speaker 3>out the first in line, and now he's first in line, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So there's this complicated element that we hadn't really dealt

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<v Speaker 3>with yet, and that is now Absolom goes, oh, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm next in line to be king, right Well, this

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<v Speaker 3>is going to be good problem later, but right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Ab also is very savvy and goes, we need

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<v Speaker 3>the heir to the throne to be with the one

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<v Speaker 3>on the throne. We need the one coming behind to

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<v Speaker 3>develop up the same character and knowledge and wisdom that

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<v Speaker 3>the one sitting there has. Right we need and Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Ab remembers David when he was at his best, so

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<v Speaker 3>Joe AB's thinking. Man, if David would just spend more

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<v Speaker 3>time with Absolom, maybe maybe David can help overcome some

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<v Speaker 3>of the bad behaviors of Absolom. You know, David's a

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<v Speaker 3>bloody man. David's you know, kill people in battle. David's

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<v Speaker 3>done some pretty rough things, but overall he's a good king.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe you know in this situation, Absolom what he did,

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<v Speaker 3>while you and I would view it as sinful, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a shocking thing. It was somewhat permitted within the law

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<v Speaker 3>of Moses that if somebody committed a crime against a

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<v Speaker 3>family member, there could be the What wasn't what was

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<v Speaker 3>the title of the person who was allowed to the

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<v Speaker 3>one that would get revenge for the family? Oh, in goodness,

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<v Speaker 3>you remember the title there was. There was a specific

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<v Speaker 3>title for the kind of person who get revenge for

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<v Speaker 3>the family because somebody else did something evil. If if

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<v Speaker 3>you killed somebody, or or if you rape somebody or whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>then the family could go get justice. It was the

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<v Speaker 3>revenge giver, the revenge giver, that's that's not the title.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you may be mistaken there working on Yeah, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>what do you so some of our geniuses that know

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<v Speaker 3>the Bible like this. You you'll know what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is within the law. It's within the law

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<v Speaker 3>that if there is no government justice available in that time,

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<v Speaker 3>because remember they were little city states all over the place,

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<v Speaker 3>really is what they were. And in between the walled

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<v Speaker 3>cities was oftentimes just lawless right and so if you lived.

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<v Speaker 2>Outside universal government, there was no universal law.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, and so then the people would have to

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<v Speaker 3>bring justice in a fair way. It's not a vigilanteism,

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<v Speaker 3>but it kind of leans that way a little bit, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So Absolom could have justified his behavior saying I did

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<v Speaker 3>what the government refused to do. And I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 3>that's the right thing. I'm just saying that's what he did.

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<v Speaker 3>And Joe Abb could have looked at it and said,

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<v Speaker 3>come on, David, you know, I'm sorry it was your sons.

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<v Speaker 3>But the reality is that guy needed justice. Nobody was

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<v Speaker 3>bringing it. He brought it. So let's get over it,

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<v Speaker 3>and you need to do something because as is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be the heir. And so I think Joeb has

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<v Speaker 3>some wisdom in him here, and then he's also pretty

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<v Speaker 3>savvy on how to deal with a guy who kills

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<v Speaker 3>people who bring bad messages right.

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<v Speaker 2>And honestly, this is sort of the same thing that

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<v Speaker 3>With Nathan exactly, tell a story.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So the king would have a court and there

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<v Speaker 1>would be an audience with the king, and the king

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<v Speaker 1>would sit up on his throne and part of his

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<v Speaker 1>job was to solve people's problems.

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<v Speaker 2>So people would.

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<v Speaker 1>Come to him with a problem and they'd say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we need the government to step in, we need the

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<v Speaker 1>law to step in because we can't handle this on

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<v Speaker 1>our own. So what says the king? And so that

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<v Speaker 1>was sort of what Nathan did. When Nathan was confronting David,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, hey, let me tell you a story that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>He pretended like it was a real story, and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>there's this neighbor that I know. He's got one sheep

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<v Speaker 1>and this rich man took his sheep and blah blah

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<v Speaker 2>And then what did David do.

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<v Speaker 1>He executed judgment discernment and said, surely this man is

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<v Speaker 1>going to die. And then he says, well, it's you, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And then David's like, oh, my goodness, he's right, it

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<v Speaker 3>And and by the way, he said it publicly and

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<v Speaker 3>accepted it and repented, yes, publicly.

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<v Speaker 2>And so and so here it is again. Yeah, here

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<v Speaker 2>it is again.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody knows what happened with with Absolom and Amnon. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>knows that absolute or excuse me, yeah, absolutely fled.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh you know, it's been.

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<v Speaker 1>Gone for years now and uh, and so everybody sort

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<v Speaker 1>of knows, and it's just you know, it's and this

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<v Speaker 1>timeframe Ofheba's pregnancy, so it was only months.

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<v Speaker 2>This is years.

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<v Speaker 1>So the kingdom knows. And so here's this woman publicly

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<v Speaker 1>decides to call David out in the same manner, and

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<v Speaker 1>Joe abb he saw it work before, and he's.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, very smart. He's like, I know, I know, David's

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<v Speaker 3>a great tactician.

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<v Speaker 3>So Absolom is handsome like his dad, he's intelligent like

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<v Speaker 3>his dad. He's a great communicator like his dad. He

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<v Speaker 3>just doesn't have the character that his dad had when

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<v Speaker 3>his dad rose to power. Right, that's the issue. He

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<v Speaker 3>didn't have to walk with God. Something happened with David

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<v Speaker 3>where he was occupied or preoccupied with military success he

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<v Speaker 3>was he had a walk with God personally, he didn't

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<v Speaker 3>pass it on with to his kids, and so none

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<v Speaker 3>of his kids, you don't see any of his kids

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<v Speaker 3>until you get the Solomon. You don't see any of

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<v Speaker 3>his kids that are like, oh, God is the center

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<v Speaker 3>of my life. And you know, this is one of

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<v Speaker 3>the dangers of coddling our kids and giving our kids

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<v Speaker 3>all the privileges in the world that we never had,

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<v Speaker 3>is a lot of times they don't develop the character

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<v Speaker 3>that we developed. And so that's one part of it.

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<v Speaker 3>The other thing that I really see here, and this

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<v Speaker 3>is I think very significant, is that David declines to

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<v Speaker 3>discipline his sons for the things that are in his

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<v Speaker 3>own life. And what happens is then this becomes almost

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<v Speaker 3>like generational sins, where the family just keeps committing the

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<v Speaker 3>same kind of sins. So many of his sons do

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<v Speaker 3>the things David did, but they do it to excess,

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<v Speaker 3>and it becomes a greater and greater and greater issue.

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<v Speaker 3>And for some of our listeners, maybe you're looking at

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<v Speaker 3>know the thing that your grandfather did and your great

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<v Speaker 3>grandfather did, and your father did and now you think, well,

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<v Speaker 3>Or maybe you're a young adult and you're growing up

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<v Speaker 3>right now, going man a life. My family always has

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<v Speaker 3>these issues. The different sins run in families for a

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<v Speaker 3>long time. Suicides tend to run in families. Alcoholism tends

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<v Speaker 3>to run in families. Physical violence tends to run in families,

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<v Speaker 3>divorce tends to run in family. So many of these things.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you look at it, going well, that's just

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<v Speaker 3>what our family does, it's possible for you to be

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<v Speaker 3>the one to say no more. Right, you can step

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<v Speaker 3>up and through God's grace and the power of the

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<v Speaker 3>Holy Spirit in your life, you can be the one

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<v Speaker 3>to say I'm going to break that cycle. I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to break that chain. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And you can change your family's legacy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, by moving back to God. Way that your family

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<v Speaker 3>moved away from God. Somebody led your family away from God.

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<v Speaker 3>You can lead your part of the family back to

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<v Speaker 3>God and break that cycle. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I have a good friend and you know

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<v Speaker 1>him where his legacy was, you know, handed down from

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<v Speaker 1>his grandfather. It was womanizing and alcoholism and chasing money,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was just that way that's what that's what

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<v Speaker 1>the men and that family were known for. And so

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<v Speaker 1>this guy decides to completely turn and you know, becomes

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a servant.

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<v Speaker 2>Of God and goes into ministry.

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<v Speaker 1>And now all of his sons are in ministry and

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<v Speaker 1>love God, and they're raising their kids the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's exactly what you said.

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<v Speaker 1>So think about, you know, how they just will describe

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<v Speaker 1>their grandfather right, and and all of a sudden, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's amazing to think how one change life

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<v Speaker 1>can change a legacy.

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<v Speaker 2>It really, it really is.

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<v Speaker 3>But in my life it was that way. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>my biological father is different from my dad. So if

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<v Speaker 3>you ever hear me tell the stories, I always differentiate

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<v Speaker 3>between my dad, who's a godly man who raised me. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>my biological father was abusive and a very bad alcoholic.

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<v Speaker 3>But so was his father, and so were his brothers,

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<v Speaker 3>and so was his grandfather, and so was his mother,

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<v Speaker 3>and right early on when he was growing up, it

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<v Speaker 3>was that way, and everybody in his life was that way.

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<v Speaker 3>And so all the males up through him, in my

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<v Speaker 3>past and in my heritage were violent alcoholics. And so

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<v Speaker 3>it's not unreasonable to say I probably would be a

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<v Speaker 3>violent alcoholic too. But my two things, God rescued us.

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<v Speaker 3>And my mom said, you don't have to be that.

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<v Speaker 3>You can be the one who breaks that chain. And

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<v Speaker 3>I remember I was a young teenager. She said, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you have the opportunity if you choose to never touch alcohol,

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<v Speaker 3>you have the opportunity to never have your children run

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<v Speaker 3>and hide from you, right, And I remember that that

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<v Speaker 3>was a huge thing for me, and I went, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>want to be that man. I don't want my wife

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<v Speaker 3>to ever duck when I raise my hand. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want my children to ever run from me and hide

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<v Speaker 3>from me. Because I'm in some rage because probably I

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<v Speaker 3>am that guy. I don't know. I've told people before

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<v Speaker 3>when they wanted to give me a drink and I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to let them off the hook, I'll say, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, I'm an alcoholic. I've never had a drop

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<v Speaker 3>of alcohol in my life, but I'm probably an alcoholic,

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<v Speaker 3>right because genetically everybody in my family is. And so

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I'm going to break that chain. And then

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<v Speaker 3>I've raised my children to say, hey, we don't have

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<v Speaker 3>to go down that path together. And so it's not

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<v Speaker 3>me and it's not my character. It's the grace of

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<v Speaker 3>God having intervened in my life and taught me, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have to be what the people before you were.

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<v Speaker 3>You can break that chain. And I really see, man,

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<v Speaker 3>this was an opportunity right here, right for David to

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<v Speaker 3>hit reset on the family. He doesn't. He brings the

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<v Speaker 3>Ebiso one home and it says, but I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to look at you a rate when Absolom needed him

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<v Speaker 3>the most, I think, and if he'd experienced grace, and

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<v Speaker 3>if David had talked about and taught absoloumly about how

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<v Speaker 3>God extended grace to David, and I'm going to extend

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<v Speaker 3>grace to you. This is what kings do. And let's

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<v Speaker 3>be men who chase God together. I think Absolom came

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<v Speaker 3>home right, this was an opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we're about to see that Absolom. The only thing

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<v Speaker 1>that Absolom wants to do is get approval and love

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<v Speaker 1>from his father. And so it's going to turn into

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<v Speaker 1>bad things because of the way that David responds.

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<v Speaker 3>And so if you still breathe in breath, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the road. You can still change the

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<v Speaker 3>legacy of your family. That's if you just go God's way.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's right, that's right. Oh hey, that is our time.

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<v Speaker 1>What a great story, and we'll continue on and hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>see you then next time on the babble, guys,