WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:02.020 --> 00:00:02.780 CJ: What's up, Colin? 00:00:02.780 --> 00:00:03.420 How's it going? 00:00:03.530 --> 00:00:03.850 Colin: good. 00:00:03.860 --> 00:00:04.600 Pretty good. 00:00:04.860 --> 00:00:07.130 You got your microphone facing the right way this time. 00:00:08.090 --> 00:00:11.340 CJ: Oh my gosh, I was looking at the mic last time because we 00:00:11.340 --> 00:00:12.500 were going to talk about tools. 00:00:12.810 --> 00:00:16.230 And I didn't notice in the past that there was that directional, there's like 00:00:16.230 --> 00:00:18.520 a little directional icon helper thing. 00:00:19.100 --> 00:00:22.090 And yeah, I've been talking into this mic backwards for five years. 00:00:22.100 --> 00:00:25.740 So hopefully this sounds a little better, a little less echoey. 00:00:25.890 --> 00:00:29.760 Yeah, it also helped to like read the manual and see like 00:00:29.770 --> 00:00:33.460 how they sort of expect you to, you know, talk into this thing. 00:00:33.460 --> 00:00:35.330 So hopefully it sounds a little better. 00:00:35.390 --> 00:00:35.550 We'll 00:00:35.720 --> 00:00:36.940 Colin: what mic are you using? 00:00:37.440 --> 00:00:39.820 CJ: This is the Shure SM7B. 00:00:40.220 --> 00:00:44.810 So it, I think it's the same one that's pretty popular among podcasters. 00:00:44.820 --> 00:00:50.435 And when I got it 2020 ish, I guess it was one of the, Best ones you can get. 00:00:51.165 --> 00:00:55.155 The thing that I don't like about this is that it requires so much gear. 00:00:55.435 --> 00:01:01.315 So on my desk, in order to use this mic, I have a cloud lifter and a focus, right? 00:01:01.335 --> 00:01:06.755 Which are two other devices that are required to get it, to plug in via USB and 00:01:06.755 --> 00:01:08.145 have all the right power and everything. 00:01:08.555 --> 00:01:11.255 You know more about the cloud lifter than I do for sure. 00:01:11.755 --> 00:01:14.545 And like this whole setup, I just know that this is like, what's 00:01:14.545 --> 00:01:16.955 required to get it going and yeah. 00:01:16.955 --> 00:01:17.645 So, I don't know. 00:01:18.155 --> 00:01:19.445 Maybe let's start with yours too. 00:01:19.455 --> 00:01:20.915 Like, what are you rocking over 00:01:21.315 --> 00:01:21.585 Colin: Yeah. 00:01:21.585 --> 00:01:24.155 So I have a kind of industry standard. 00:01:24.155 --> 00:01:28.745 This is like the microphone that you'd see on any stage at, you know, open mic. 00:01:28.745 --> 00:01:29.735 It's the sure. 00:01:29.765 --> 00:01:33.405 S SM 58 or just maybe S S 58. 00:01:33.495 --> 00:01:33.695 Yeah. 00:01:33.695 --> 00:01:34.435 SM 58. 00:01:34.535 --> 00:01:37.205 It's, you know, indestructible for the most part. 00:01:37.305 --> 00:01:41.025 I don't believe it needs phantom power like yours does. 00:01:41.415 --> 00:01:47.360 So yeah, yours requires, phantom power and it's so gain hungry that 00:01:47.360 --> 00:01:48.640 you have to have the cloud lifter. 00:01:49.150 --> 00:01:53.120 I think mine doesn't require it, but I have and I think this is the first time 00:01:53.120 --> 00:01:54.180 I think you could be able to see it. 00:01:54.560 --> 00:01:59.830 This thing in the center is my cloud lifter, but it's called a Triton fat head. 00:02:00.320 --> 00:02:03.040 It was just cheaper than the cloud lifter and I didn't want 00:02:03.040 --> 00:02:04.440 something else on my desk. 00:02:04.440 --> 00:02:06.510 So it does make my mic really, really loud. 00:02:06.660 --> 00:02:08.480 Phone like comically long. 00:02:08.510 --> 00:02:10.850 Cause then I've got the XLR cable players into that. 00:02:11.290 --> 00:02:13.070 But that gives me more gain. 00:02:13.480 --> 00:02:16.430 Just like your cloud lifter gives you more gain so that we don't have to 00:02:16.430 --> 00:02:19.200 like try to boost our audio and posts. 00:02:19.310 --> 00:02:20.450 Sometimes I. 00:02:20.590 --> 00:02:22.680 I have people working in offices next to me. 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:27.620 So I sometimes like in subconsciously tone down my, my speaking too. 00:02:27.620 --> 00:02:28.840 It's something I'm trying to work on. 00:02:29.290 --> 00:02:31.210 And just like not care, just be louder. 00:02:31.250 --> 00:02:34.270 But so yeah, I've got the sure. 00:02:34.270 --> 00:02:35.630 I've also got the focus, right? 00:02:35.630 --> 00:02:37.170 Scarlet solo on my desk. 00:02:37.220 --> 00:02:40.800 I kind of wish I didn't have to have that on my desk. 00:02:40.820 --> 00:02:42.280 That might be something I changed. 00:02:42.280 --> 00:02:43.160 I'm going to be moving. 00:02:43.385 --> 00:02:47.135 my office, which is always fun to like figure out what, what's going 00:02:47.135 --> 00:02:49.385 to be the refactor of the gear. 00:02:49.385 --> 00:02:52.955 What's going to, you know, what's going to work for me there. 00:02:53.055 --> 00:02:56.345 And then, yeah, I think like a quick rundown, what other 00:02:56.345 --> 00:02:58.265 things do you have audio wise 00:02:58.765 --> 00:03:02.815 CJ: I would say other like audio, like stuff, I guess I'm using 00:03:03.145 --> 00:03:08.995 oftentimes in videos or shorts or kind of like any other content. 00:03:09.025 --> 00:03:13.695 The, the audio stuff that comes to mind is 11 labs for generating 00:03:13.955 --> 00:03:19.915 voice And then I also use like the YouTube studio, creative music. 00:03:19.945 --> 00:03:22.905 That's all like creative commons and available for anyone to use. 00:03:23.545 --> 00:03:25.255 I find that's like plenty. 00:03:25.255 --> 00:03:27.645 It's not, it's not tons and tons of tracks, but it's 00:03:27.645 --> 00:03:30.145 plenty to what I need done. 00:03:30.595 --> 00:03:33.335 And then recently I've been playing around with Google's sort of 00:03:33.375 --> 00:03:35.905 experimental music effects thing. 00:03:35.905 --> 00:03:39.185 So we'll drop a link in the show notes, but there's like a pretty cool 00:03:39.715 --> 00:03:44.655 generative tool where you can type in, like, I want it to sound like lo fi. 00:03:44.705 --> 00:03:48.385 I want some lo fi beats with some piano and whatever on top of it. 00:03:48.765 --> 00:03:51.185 And you can kind of like generate tracks. 00:03:52.190 --> 00:03:53.930 So there's a, yeah, there's a few different companies like 00:03:53.930 --> 00:03:55.260 that, that, that generate tracks. 00:03:55.630 --> 00:03:58.850 But a lot of the times I'm cleaning up the audio with Descript. 00:03:58.880 --> 00:04:03.860 So Descript is the, the software that I use now for everything audio and video. 00:04:03.920 --> 00:04:08.190 So whether I'm editing a screencast or I'm editing a podcast, 00:04:08.200 --> 00:04:09.620 I'm using Descript for both. 00:04:10.190 --> 00:04:14.320 And it's just gotten so good that I haven't needed to drop into 00:04:14.350 --> 00:04:17.970 anything else like ScreenFlow or any sort of Adobe tools. 00:04:18.100 --> 00:04:18.430 So. 00:04:18.980 --> 00:04:19.630 Colin: Got us both. 00:04:19.650 --> 00:04:20.680 We're both paying for it. 00:04:21.665 --> 00:04:21.915 CJ: yeah. 00:04:22.565 --> 00:04:23.175 What about you? 00:04:23.455 --> 00:04:24.865 What else have you got got on your desk 00:04:24.930 --> 00:04:30.050 Colin: I guess video wise I do, I do, I have an Apple cinema display 00:04:30.180 --> 00:04:34.240 in front of me or I guess the studio display which has a camera 00:04:34.250 --> 00:04:37.480 in it, but my old monitor did not. 00:04:37.550 --> 00:04:39.360 And I already have it set up. 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:42.800 So I'm running a Sony, a 6, 100 with a cam link. 00:04:43.350 --> 00:04:46.630 And this is one of those things where like, I don't know if the focus, right. 00:04:46.640 --> 00:04:49.760 Is the thing that's stealing all the power from my monitor. 00:04:50.190 --> 00:04:52.170 But the cam link with. 00:04:52.585 --> 00:04:55.795 Like the one cord into the laptop and the focus, right. 00:04:55.815 --> 00:05:00.025 And the cam link, all these things, like I have to plug my mouse into 00:05:00.025 --> 00:05:01.885 my computer or it will not work. 00:05:01.935 --> 00:05:02.815 And I don't know 00:05:02.835 --> 00:05:02.975 CJ: Mm. 00:05:03.025 --> 00:05:03.445 Colin: why. 00:05:03.855 --> 00:05:07.995 So that's where like I would love, like Sony now has a new camera where you just 00:05:08.035 --> 00:05:10.055 plug USB straight into the computer. 00:05:10.535 --> 00:05:13.215 You don't have to have a cam link, which is an extra expense. 00:05:13.225 --> 00:05:16.535 So I don't want to buy a whole new camera just for that. 00:05:16.575 --> 00:05:20.485 But if this, for whatever reason ever takes a dive, I think that's on the list. 00:05:20.965 --> 00:05:24.815 Or maybe just the studio display camera might just be fine too. 00:05:25.395 --> 00:05:26.455 So that's video. 00:05:26.455 --> 00:05:30.405 And then I have two Elgato key lights on either side of me. 00:05:30.405 --> 00:05:34.245 And I use their like little app to set it to like a white. 00:05:34.750 --> 00:05:36.400 I guess we can even dial in, what is this? 00:05:36.430 --> 00:05:39.510 About 4, 800 Kelvin light. 00:05:39.560 --> 00:05:44.300 And then like when I'm coding, I dim them down to like 2, 900. 00:05:44.820 --> 00:05:49.620 Just cause I can't deal with the blue light all the time, but it makes us look 00:05:49.735 --> 00:05:49.975 CJ: Nice. 00:05:51.390 --> 00:05:57.040 Yeah, the, it's surprising, I think when you first get into making content for 00:05:57.040 --> 00:06:02.960 YouTube or whatever, how much goes into lighting and audio and you don't need it. 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:04.560 You can get started without any of this stuff. 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:06.940 Like you could just use your iPhone to shoot any of it. 00:06:07.020 --> 00:06:10.900 But then like, yeah, like going down the rabbit holes that that exist 00:06:10.900 --> 00:06:14.610 around making your content higher quality is pretty interesting. 00:06:15.180 --> 00:06:17.500 Colin: Oh, and I mean, the iPhone is probably one of the best 00:06:17.500 --> 00:06:19.110 cameras you could use for it now. 00:06:19.150 --> 00:06:21.930 Like a lot of people are using that as there's like an actual 00:06:21.930 --> 00:06:23.440 mode in the iPhone now for that. 00:06:25.530 --> 00:06:28.820 CJ: Have you ever used a, like a teleprompter or do you use any like 00:06:28.820 --> 00:06:33.630 software to do like pre recorded or pre written, I guess, scripted content? 00:06:33.820 --> 00:06:34.690 Colin: have not. 00:06:34.780 --> 00:06:37.670 I, I'm very curious to try the Elgato one. 00:06:37.730 --> 00:06:42.410 It's pretty cool, but I have not, I usually do things pretty live. 00:06:42.420 --> 00:06:45.780 So like I'm sure that it would be better for it. 00:06:45.780 --> 00:06:49.680 Like I know a lot of YouTubers or course creators try to script 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:51.510 it and then just try to read it. 00:06:51.510 --> 00:06:55.060 And then it's a skill to learn how to talk to a teleprompter without just 00:06:55.060 --> 00:07:00.360 like Looking super creepy, but yeah, 00:07:00.620 --> 00:07:05.760 CJ: the, the reason I asked is like, I, we have, or I, I've been using a 00:07:05.760 --> 00:07:09.500 teleprompter for like a couple little things where I used it for things that 00:07:09.500 --> 00:07:11.500 Stripe for some prerecorded content. 00:07:11.500 --> 00:07:14.930 And it was great at like looking down the barrel and, you know, saying what 00:07:14.930 --> 00:07:20.780 you need to say, but it also was so much extra stuff just hanging around and on 00:07:20.780 --> 00:07:22.420 top of the camera so that you can get. 00:07:22.750 --> 00:07:25.770 This thing set up and then you lose your phone. 00:07:25.770 --> 00:07:28.490 You like lose access to your phone or an iPad or whatever. 00:07:28.490 --> 00:07:32.630 But for me, I was just using my phone as like the kind of the teleprompter screen. 00:07:33.320 --> 00:07:35.130 Does the Elgato one have a screen on it? 00:07:35.130 --> 00:07:36.030 The, the, okay. 00:07:36.060 --> 00:07:36.650 Yeah, that's 00:07:36.670 --> 00:07:40.840 Colin: I've, I've wanted it to maybe like just throw discord up onto it. 00:07:40.850 --> 00:07:43.940 So I'm not reading from it, but that way you can see the 00:07:43.940 --> 00:07:45.350 people that you're talking to. 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:47.980 Like if you use a prompter that way, you're actually looking at 00:07:47.980 --> 00:07:49.140 the people you're talking to. 00:07:49.700 --> 00:07:56.570 Or you could put chat on it so that then you still, if you're doing streams or live 00:07:56.570 --> 00:07:58.600 events, you still have your full monitor. 00:07:58.600 --> 00:07:59.430 You can still do things. 00:07:59.430 --> 00:08:02.880 And then you have chat up on the teleprompter, which can work too. 00:08:03.310 --> 00:08:07.560 I guess they also sell some really narrow screens that can go like 00:08:07.570 --> 00:08:09.010 below or next to your monitor. 00:08:09.010 --> 00:08:11.410 And you can just pin chat to that, which is kind of fun. 00:08:11.870 --> 00:08:16.220 But yeah, then you get into like your desk looks like command center with all that 00:08:16.350 --> 00:08:17.850 CJ: Yeah, exactly. 00:08:18.330 --> 00:08:21.540 Speaking of command center, have you seen the the stream deck, 00:08:21.580 --> 00:08:22.710 like the Elgato stream deck? 00:08:22.710 --> 00:08:25.250 It's just like a bunch of keys that you can press. 00:08:25.290 --> 00:08:25.780 Yeah. 00:08:25.900 --> 00:08:30.870 I think so Aaron who ran for many years, the air table. 00:08:31.100 --> 00:08:32.710 Streams and now he's at Webflow. 00:08:33.070 --> 00:08:37.290 He has the sickest setup where he has like all these OBS scenes 00:08:37.300 --> 00:08:40.310 like built into his stream deck that helps him flip between them. 00:08:40.650 --> 00:08:41.420 Very cool. 00:08:41.990 --> 00:08:43.130 I think it's a lot of work to get set 00:08:43.140 --> 00:08:43.880 Colin: It is. 00:08:43.940 --> 00:08:45.030 CJ: you want it, you know. 00:08:45.300 --> 00:08:50.630 Colin: I have one and I had like a first gen one that died and then they sent 00:08:50.630 --> 00:08:55.430 me a new one because it just totally went like blue screen of death on me. 00:08:55.440 --> 00:08:57.530 Like you could see the panels turning on. 00:08:58.025 --> 00:09:00.605 But then I got a new one and I just haven't figured 00:09:00.605 --> 00:09:02.325 out what I would use it for. 00:09:02.595 --> 00:09:06.205 And on this setup, my power hungry things are already an issue. 00:09:06.205 --> 00:09:10.405 So like I didn't want to add yet another thing in the mix, but it 00:09:10.425 --> 00:09:14.185 does work nicely if you have the prompter or the Elgato key lights, 00:09:14.195 --> 00:09:16.395 like they all work in that same world. 00:09:16.735 --> 00:09:17.385 There's also. 00:09:17.610 --> 00:09:21.160 A little discord plug like a discord extension now, so you can like mute and 00:09:21.160 --> 00:09:26.340 unmute and discords join certain channels and stuff like that too, which is nice. 00:09:27.350 --> 00:09:27.890 CJ: Very cool. 00:09:28.700 --> 00:09:31.110 Yeah, I think, I don't know. 00:09:31.160 --> 00:09:35.460 If you were getting started today and you had, you wanted to like 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:40.570 not go crazy on the budget, what would you recommend people get into? 00:09:40.620 --> 00:09:40.970 Colin: Yeah. 00:09:40.970 --> 00:09:46.720 I mean, I would do honestly that if you are already on a Mac book pro or like, 00:09:46.740 --> 00:09:52.220 like M whatever, M one, M two, M three, the microphone on the Mac book pro, 00:09:52.390 --> 00:09:55.520 like if you had to is kind of amazing. 00:09:55.580 --> 00:09:56.290 By itself. 00:09:56.540 --> 00:10:00.450 The problem is if you're typing, you're typing right next to the microphone. 00:10:00.940 --> 00:10:03.850 So if you had to, I would just do that. 00:10:03.850 --> 00:10:05.280 And then I would use your iPhone as. 00:10:05.345 --> 00:10:08.115 the video mode, webcam mode. 00:10:08.665 --> 00:10:13.635 If you wanted to go a little bit up from that, I honestly, a good light 00:10:13.845 --> 00:10:17.425 is like, just one Elgato key light. 00:10:17.915 --> 00:10:19.895 I think they're like 60 bucks or something. 00:10:20.355 --> 00:10:24.395 Lighting is going to make your crappier camera better no matter what. 00:10:24.445 --> 00:10:27.445 And then this microphone is like 50 bucks. 00:10:27.445 --> 00:10:29.945 So I think the problem with this is XLR. 00:10:29.955 --> 00:10:34.305 So like getting, There's a audio technica USB mic. 00:10:34.305 --> 00:10:38.135 That's like, if you Google it, you'll find it as like the entry 00:10:38.135 --> 00:10:39.405 mic that everyone recommends. 00:10:39.405 --> 00:10:45.885 And honestly, for the dollar and gear you know, relatively, you're not going 00:10:45.885 --> 00:10:47.345 to see that much of a difference. 00:10:47.375 --> 00:10:48.325 It's audio technical. 00:10:48.325 --> 00:10:49.275 I think it's the AT 2020. 00:10:50.675 --> 00:10:51.705 Oh, that's a camera. 00:10:52.660 --> 00:10:56.290 CJ: What do you think about the like blue Yeti USB 00:10:56.535 --> 00:10:57.605 Colin: They're kind of awful. 00:10:57.665 --> 00:10:58.135 CJ: Okay. 00:10:58.335 --> 00:11:01.565 Colin: I think as long as you can figure out how, like you were talking about the 00:11:01.575 --> 00:11:07.525 top of the show, as long as you talk into it correctly, it can be good, but there, 00:11:07.975 --> 00:11:10.905 they are kind of pricey for what they are. 00:11:11.450 --> 00:11:16.470 And I want to say it's the Audio Technica AT, it's like the AT line. 00:11:16.470 --> 00:11:21.680 So like AT100 or AT1000, something like that, those are, you're going to, and 00:11:21.690 --> 00:11:26.510 I'll actually will share a link to like, there's a podcast guide that is pretty 00:11:26.510 --> 00:11:29.470 nice for being able to, to get started. 00:11:29.640 --> 00:11:29.870 I don't know. 00:11:29.880 --> 00:11:30.290 What about you? 00:11:30.290 --> 00:11:31.810 What would you start off with? 00:11:33.060 --> 00:11:36.640 CJ: I think the first investment I would make is audio. 00:11:36.920 --> 00:11:40.800 I think you can get pretty good video out of you know, your iPhone or even 00:11:40.800 --> 00:11:45.100 like basic webcams, you know, like the Logitech I forget it's like the 00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:46.860 nine 20 C or something like that. 00:11:46.860 --> 00:11:52.060 Just like the USB webcam is plenty good to make content for YouTube and the internet. 00:11:52.730 --> 00:11:54.880 I would, yeah, so I definitely start there and then. 00:11:55.380 --> 00:11:59.130 I've had, I don't know, I had like pretty decent success with the blue Yeti 00:11:59.220 --> 00:12:04.810 early on, but I, this was like when I, I mean, this wasn't, this wasn't when 00:12:04.810 --> 00:12:07.630 I knew nothing about audio because I still know nothing about audio. 00:12:07.670 --> 00:12:12.360 So I, yeah, I mean, it worked, it worked fine for the like small use cases that 00:12:12.360 --> 00:12:16.360 I had, but yeah, there was definitely some, I remember there were some issues 00:12:16.370 --> 00:12:20.300 because our, Team and specifically like the video editor was like, no, 00:12:20.300 --> 00:12:22.160 you got to upgrade that to the sure. 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:25.760 So blue, blue Yeti was what we were using in the very beginning. 00:12:26.280 --> 00:12:26.740 It's funny. 00:12:26.740 --> 00:12:29.440 You can look back at the Stripe developers, YouTube channel, and 00:12:29.440 --> 00:12:33.890 like the first videos that we made in 2019 where the lighting is literally, 00:12:33.890 --> 00:12:36.920 I just took like a desk lamp and shot, like pointed it at myself. 00:12:36.960 --> 00:12:40.530 And then, you know, I got feedback, Oh, the lighting is too. 00:12:40.700 --> 00:12:41.570 Glary on one side. 00:12:41.570 --> 00:12:43.820 So I just got another desk lamp and shot it at the other side. 00:12:44.520 --> 00:12:46.150 They were like, Oh, I got to soften it. 00:12:46.150 --> 00:12:49.980 So I just like hung tissues over the, over the bulbs and like kind of made 00:12:49.980 --> 00:12:53.010 my own soft boxes and it was so hacky. 00:12:53.010 --> 00:12:57.360 But yeah, starting from those early days with, yeah, you can, 00:12:57.470 --> 00:12:58.890 you can get started however, right. 00:12:58.890 --> 00:12:59.490 And then just build 00:12:59.750 --> 00:13:03.590 Colin: Yeah, and I mean I agree like audio, so let's just say like if you made 00:13:03.590 --> 00:13:09.280 a video people can get through watching a bad video, but as long as the audio is 00:13:09.280 --> 00:13:12.850 amazing there's something about listening to something that's grading on you or 00:13:12.850 --> 00:13:15.710 just hard to hear that just doesn't work. 00:13:15.810 --> 00:13:20.230 So if you, and to get practice, like just podcasting and just doing audio, 00:13:20.230 --> 00:13:23.210 like we record this, the video and the audio and we dropped the video. 00:13:23.770 --> 00:13:26.610 But doing just the audio will get you a feel for it. 00:13:26.610 --> 00:13:31.160 Like I used to edit And wow, I can't remember the name of that software 00:13:31.180 --> 00:13:35.460 audacity which is free to use for editing and you get a sense of waveforms and 00:13:35.460 --> 00:13:40.350 what happens when you adjust things and a level it and all these different things. 00:13:40.400 --> 00:13:45.185 If I was starting over today, Not necessarily budget, 00:13:45.185 --> 00:13:46.415 but it's not too expensive. 00:13:46.845 --> 00:13:52.455 I would probably replace all the mics, the XLR cables, the Scarlett with the 00:13:52.455 --> 00:14:00.945 Shure MV7, and that is basically your mic, but USB and you just lose all the 00:14:00.955 --> 00:14:05.705 stuff that could go wrong or fiddling with knobs and just taking up space. 00:14:05.705 --> 00:14:08.655 So that's, I think you probably would see that Mike a lot. 00:14:09.130 --> 00:14:12.170 It runs like, I guess there's a few of them. 00:14:12.170 --> 00:14:17.320 There's the MV7X, like between 170 and 270 for that mic. 00:14:17.600 --> 00:14:20.710 But the, I mean, cause the Focusrite is over a hundred dollars by itself. 00:14:20.710 --> 00:14:24.150 So, you know, you could easily replace all those things for the 00:14:24.150 --> 00:14:25.650 same price and just have one MV7. 00:14:28.185 --> 00:14:32.395 CJ: There have on the focus, right on the front of it, there's a button 00:14:32.425 --> 00:14:34.215 in order to like increase the gain. 00:14:34.215 --> 00:14:36.245 I have to push this button that says 48 volts. 00:14:36.655 --> 00:14:39.425 If I don't push that button, then the computer doesn't pick up any 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:39.910 Colin: Yep. 00:14:40.505 --> 00:14:44.765 CJ: And I sometimes forget to do that when recording videos. 00:14:44.835 --> 00:14:49.885 And it is such a painful experience to record an hour long tutorial. 00:14:50.690 --> 00:14:55.300 Go to edit it and realize that, Oh no, your microphone just like turned itself 00:14:55.320 --> 00:14:58.640 off and you didn't capture any of the audio and you've got to start over. 00:14:58.970 --> 00:15:00.650 So that, yeah. 00:15:00.860 --> 00:15:02.520 Definitely been bitten by that in the past. 00:15:02.540 --> 00:15:07.300 And so I, I've now have like this nervous habit of like peeking over to see like, is 00:15:07.300 --> 00:15:10.410 my 48 volt button, you know, like lit up. 00:15:10.520 --> 00:15:10.940 So 00:15:10.940 --> 00:15:13.590 Colin: Well, this is, this is an excellent segue into software 00:15:13.590 --> 00:15:17.390 that you kind of have to have on every machine that you, you start. 00:15:17.900 --> 00:15:19.970 I have been looking for this. 00:15:19.970 --> 00:15:22.270 If someone has heard of this, please let me know. 00:15:22.660 --> 00:15:25.070 I think it's something I'm going to have to eventually just build. 00:15:25.580 --> 00:15:29.085 But what I really want is Because I have this for video. 00:15:29.115 --> 00:15:33.395 I have a monitor that is called hand mirror and it just, you click on 00:15:33.395 --> 00:15:36.235 hand mirror and it just shows you in your menu bar what the camera sees. 00:15:36.615 --> 00:15:39.395 And so I use this before I join calls. 00:15:39.915 --> 00:15:43.325 If I want to just see what the frame is, I can just like click on it and it 00:15:43.335 --> 00:15:47.385 peaks in the camera and shows me what it sees and you can switch between cameras. 00:15:47.635 --> 00:15:49.185 I want that for audio. 00:15:49.515 --> 00:15:52.615 I want a level meter. 00:15:52.910 --> 00:15:56.450 That and I was like, I've looked in the app store, I've looked all over. 00:15:56.800 --> 00:16:00.960 It doesn't seem like it'd be that hard because it's not, it's just, I 00:16:00.970 --> 00:16:02.380 don't know that people have built it. 00:16:02.380 --> 00:16:04.580 Cause they probably don't think they can charge money for it. 00:16:04.950 --> 00:16:09.890 I think hand mirrors premium now has what I'm talking about. 00:16:09.890 --> 00:16:11.390 I just have not tried it yet. 00:16:11.410 --> 00:16:12.810 So I'll have to play around with that. 00:16:13.310 --> 00:16:17.910 They have a mic check feature, but what I want is like an always on screen. 00:16:18.970 --> 00:16:19.390 CJ: hmm. 00:16:19.510 --> 00:16:19.920 Colin: Meter. 00:16:20.500 --> 00:16:23.690 Because then you'll, you don't have to be like, you'll, it'll just be flat 00:16:23.700 --> 00:16:25.010 if you forget to push that button. 00:16:25.720 --> 00:16:26.220 So 00:16:26.270 --> 00:16:26.770 CJ: Yes. 00:16:26.900 --> 00:16:27.390 Yes. 00:16:27.810 --> 00:16:33.990 And one of the features that I love of ScreenFlow for recording is you do 00:16:33.990 --> 00:16:37.820 have like a monitor, they have like a monitor feature where you can turn 00:16:37.820 --> 00:16:40.870 on this monitor thing and it'll show you your video and your audio levels. 00:16:40.900 --> 00:16:42.790 And I like usually drag that off screen. 00:16:43.190 --> 00:16:44.855 Descript does not have this. 00:16:45.205 --> 00:16:48.975 And it was like one of the things that when I started using Descript to actually 00:16:48.975 --> 00:16:52.955 record the video or the screencast, I started digging around and looking 00:16:52.955 --> 00:16:56.705 through help articles and wondering like, what, like, where can I find 00:16:56.705 --> 00:16:58.095 the monitor, like the self monitor? 00:16:58.095 --> 00:17:00.045 So does hand mirror work? 00:17:00.045 --> 00:17:03.075 Like, well, it works at any point, like while you're recording, 00:17:03.075 --> 00:17:04.185 while we're on a call right now. 00:17:04.785 --> 00:17:05.205 Nice. 00:17:05.205 --> 00:17:05.885 Okay. 00:17:06.065 --> 00:17:06.275 Yeah. 00:17:06.275 --> 00:17:08.935 That might be the thing that I start using then with Descript. 00:17:09.165 --> 00:17:13.995 Colin: it only I don't I will have to test the audio levels feature 00:17:14.125 --> 00:17:17.435 because I think it's like you're doing a mic check I don't know if 00:17:17.435 --> 00:17:20.115 it's always on but I haven't tried it. 00:17:20.265 --> 00:17:24.415 So we'd have to test that But yeah, I'm actually surprised because even in here 00:17:24.415 --> 00:17:26.615 we get like a little three meter like it. 00:17:27.005 --> 00:17:29.945 It's not that helpful in In the web app. 00:17:29.945 --> 00:17:33.185 Cause I don't trust, I want it at the system level to know, like, is the 00:17:33.185 --> 00:17:37.675 computer getting the audio versus, you know, an app asking permission for 00:17:37.675 --> 00:17:41.675 your microphone and all this stuff that could go wrong between, between the two. 00:17:42.265 --> 00:17:44.545 So that's kind of video stuff. 00:17:44.605 --> 00:17:46.915 Hand mirror gets installed instantly. 00:17:47.235 --> 00:17:47.445 Yeah. 00:17:47.445 --> 00:17:50.925 Clean shot for screenshots is something that I use extensively. 00:17:50.925 --> 00:17:52.665 I think we've talked about that in the past. 00:17:53.125 --> 00:17:57.085 Taking a screenshot, marking it up, doing gifs, doing videos, stuff like that. 00:17:57.635 --> 00:18:00.695 CJ: Are you, do you use clean shot also for video? 00:18:00.955 --> 00:18:01.185 Is that what 00:18:01.245 --> 00:18:04.125 Colin: yeah, you can clip a part of the screen and record 00:18:04.125 --> 00:18:06.045 it as either a video or a gif. 00:18:06.175 --> 00:18:07.105 So I use that a lot. 00:18:07.695 --> 00:18:10.875 Dropping in, like reproducing a bug or something like that. 00:18:12.760 --> 00:18:13.290 CJ: Very cool. 00:18:13.360 --> 00:18:13.570 Yeah. 00:18:13.570 --> 00:18:17.990 I've been using Descripts like quick recording for like, instead of 00:18:17.990 --> 00:18:20.540 loom, you can do a quick recording and put it up and they host it 00:18:20.540 --> 00:18:22.690 and share the link and everything. 00:18:22.690 --> 00:18:24.350 And what's cool about that too, is that. 00:18:24.915 --> 00:18:28.145 Even if it's like a, a two second thing that I want to share, I can 00:18:28.145 --> 00:18:31.755 still go in and like edit in Descript before like, you know, uploading 00:18:31.755 --> 00:18:32.735 or republishing or whatever. 00:18:32.735 --> 00:18:32.955 And so I 00:18:32.955 --> 00:18:34.815 Colin: you get your transcript and all that stuff. 00:18:34.915 --> 00:18:35.655 CJ: Yeah, exactly. 00:18:35.995 --> 00:18:36.335 Yeah. 00:18:36.835 --> 00:18:41.075 But I, yeah, I usually use sketch for marking up screenshots and 00:18:41.075 --> 00:18:43.995 this is an old school Evernote tool that I probably installed in 00:18:43.995 --> 00:18:46.225 2015 and just keep, keep around. 00:18:46.225 --> 00:18:51.425 But I recently have been wanting to do some more pro looking like 00:18:51.425 --> 00:18:54.405 screenshot markups and sketches. 00:18:54.870 --> 00:19:02.770 Like default arrow and boxes and, you know, like a bubble font is pretty basic. 00:19:02.780 --> 00:19:06.050 And so I, I don't know, like, it seems like clean shot might be a 00:19:06.050 --> 00:19:11.590 better option for like more yeah, like more design friendly marking up. 00:19:11.670 --> 00:19:11.940 I don't know. 00:19:11.940 --> 00:19:12.050 What do 00:19:12.060 --> 00:19:16.640 Colin: pretty powerful cause you can set settings about like do you 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:18.460 want it to drop the background? 00:19:18.470 --> 00:19:21.030 Do you want it to put it on in a browser window? 00:19:21.040 --> 00:19:24.320 Like there's, do you want to shadow it like automatically so you don't 00:19:24.320 --> 00:19:26.050 have to go in and edit it yourself. 00:19:26.050 --> 00:19:29.110 And sometimes I use it just to like throw screenshots into 00:19:29.210 --> 00:19:31.140 discord, but then you can edit it. 00:19:31.765 --> 00:19:34.475 Highlight arrows, all the stuff you can do in sketch too. 00:19:34.505 --> 00:19:39.725 So yeah, I think you probably are on the last leg of sketch. 00:19:39.725 --> 00:19:44.065 Like I am seeing like someone being like in March of 2024, I just got a new 00:19:44.065 --> 00:19:47.195 MacBook pro and can't find sketch too. 00:19:47.305 --> 00:19:47.535 CJ: Oh, 00:19:49.105 --> 00:19:52.525 Colin: So you better hold on to whatever you use to install that with, cause 00:19:52.525 --> 00:19:54.585 it's probably a rare commodity now. 00:19:55.565 --> 00:19:57.855 CJ: yeah, I, I'm ready to move off of it. 00:19:57.885 --> 00:20:01.585 Honestly, like, yeah, we'll talk about this in a little bit, but I've been 00:20:01.585 --> 00:20:07.065 building a tool for creating friction logs and one like massive part of 00:20:07.065 --> 00:20:11.485 that is I want to provide screenshots and I want this, like when I put an 00:20:11.485 --> 00:20:16.485 arrow in a screenshot, I want it to look on brand for the site that I'm 00:20:16.485 --> 00:20:18.175 using to host the screenshot thing. 00:20:18.175 --> 00:20:21.045 And so I want it to have like a certain flavor that I'm 00:20:21.045 --> 00:20:22.425 just not getting from Sketch. 00:20:22.475 --> 00:20:22.895 So. 00:20:23.500 --> 00:20:25.290 Colin: We kind of run into that at discord. 00:20:25.290 --> 00:20:30.880 Like the screenshots in our docs are all sizes, all resolutions, all different. 00:20:31.250 --> 00:20:32.870 They do not feel cohesive. 00:20:32.890 --> 00:20:36.130 And like sometimes even in the same article, they're not the same. 00:20:36.140 --> 00:20:38.950 So something I'm thinking about too. 00:20:41.220 --> 00:20:42.300 What else are you using? 00:20:42.475 --> 00:20:44.425 CJ: is, yeah, let's see. 00:20:44.425 --> 00:20:49.615 So for my terminal, I've been using warp for a while and there was a 00:20:49.615 --> 00:20:53.295 bunch of controversy around privacy and some other concerns around warp. 00:20:53.445 --> 00:20:56.175 I didn't pay attention to any of it. 00:20:56.175 --> 00:20:57.875 And I think it's still amazing. 00:20:58.355 --> 00:21:02.575 Because it has built like a built in LLM integration. 00:21:02.575 --> 00:21:08.015 So when I'm at the terminal, I can hit pound sign and then type in, like, write 00:21:08.015 --> 00:21:10.805 me the command to delete all of my. 00:21:11.475 --> 00:21:15.035 Local get branches that have already been merged to main and then hit enter. 00:21:15.035 --> 00:21:17.295 And it just goes out, finds the right thing, comes back, 00:21:17.305 --> 00:21:18.085 puts it in the terminal. 00:21:18.115 --> 00:21:18.925 And then I just hit enter. 00:21:18.955 --> 00:21:20.635 And so I don't have to remember all of those. 00:21:21.135 --> 00:21:26.455 So it's not as there's not as many like customizations as I termed 00:21:26.465 --> 00:21:28.435 to, which is what I was on before. 00:21:28.875 --> 00:21:31.135 But it is fine. 00:21:31.295 --> 00:21:32.805 And like the themes are fine. 00:21:33.365 --> 00:21:35.005 And I basically live in warp. 00:21:35.075 --> 00:21:38.215 Like that's kind of where I spend all my time. 00:21:38.655 --> 00:21:41.985 Yeah, like that between warp and Chrome, I guess, or like kind of where 00:21:41.985 --> 00:21:44.125 I spent 99 percent of my time on the 00:21:44.295 --> 00:21:44.815 Colin: Nice. 00:21:44.865 --> 00:21:45.195 Well, yeah. 00:21:45.195 --> 00:21:48.535 And you're probably, are you using NeoVim or just 00:21:48.845 --> 00:21:49.505 CJ: Yes. 00:21:49.525 --> 00:21:49.905 Yeah. 00:21:49.945 --> 00:21:51.695 I, but I just use it inside of warp. 00:21:51.715 --> 00:21:54.255 Like I'm using NeoVim, but I'm like, yeah, it's just like 00:21:54.305 --> 00:21:55.815 built into the terminal editor. 00:21:55.925 --> 00:21:56.145 Colin: Yeah. 00:21:56.145 --> 00:21:57.115 If you haven't seen. 00:21:57.880 --> 00:22:02.780 CJ code, he doesn't need to leave warp because everything is in NeoVim. 00:22:02.780 --> 00:22:05.760 And yeah, it's amazing to watch. 00:22:06.020 --> 00:22:10.100 I need to play around with them more so I can get there too. 00:22:10.100 --> 00:22:14.080 But we do a lot of stuff in VS code and some people do like VS code with the 00:22:14.080 --> 00:22:16.330 VIM bindings and things like that too. 00:22:16.330 --> 00:22:21.120 But I usually install an iTerm2 on this computer. 00:22:21.150 --> 00:22:26.840 I am trying out Alacrity and I don't know why you would need 00:22:26.850 --> 00:22:29.250 Alacrity when I read what it is. 00:22:29.690 --> 00:22:33.540 It is a free and open source GPU accelerated terminal emulator. 00:22:35.045 --> 00:22:36.715 focus on performance and simplicity. 00:22:37.215 --> 00:22:39.865 It does not support tabs or splits though. 00:22:40.475 --> 00:22:42.875 So I find myself opening a bunch of windows. 00:22:42.875 --> 00:22:44.175 I don't think I'm using it right. 00:22:44.235 --> 00:22:45.775 Cause you can team X. 00:22:46.245 --> 00:22:48.695 So I think it's just, it's written in rust. 00:22:48.695 --> 00:22:50.755 It's supposed to be super performant and fast. 00:22:51.315 --> 00:22:52.555 I installed it. 00:22:52.555 --> 00:22:58.555 And then I also like added a bunch of Zish things that has completely changed my 00:22:58.555 --> 00:23:01.455 terminal to the point where I'm like, not. 00:23:01.675 --> 00:23:02.265 As comfortable. 00:23:02.265 --> 00:23:06.175 Like when I'm on my personal machine, that's still an iterm and still has all 00:23:06.175 --> 00:23:08.375 my old, like, Oh, my Z, Z shell stuff. 00:23:08.555 --> 00:23:09.815 It's a lot different. 00:23:09.815 --> 00:23:13.205 So I actually have been going between two different environments, 00:23:13.225 --> 00:23:14.295 but I'm trying it out. 00:23:14.375 --> 00:23:18.865 I'll see if I can undo some of the things that I've done, like just lots 00:23:18.865 --> 00:23:23.115 of very cool terminal helpers and stuff that I added that sometimes do 00:23:23.115 --> 00:23:25.525 some magic for me, but mostly live in. 00:23:26.025 --> 00:23:28.715 A terminal at just like with other apps. 00:23:29.905 --> 00:23:30.245 CJ: yeah. 00:23:30.985 --> 00:23:34.605 And the so the, when you're in Alacrity, I've never actually heard of this 00:23:34.605 --> 00:23:37.805 terminal, but so if you wanted to do Yeah. 00:23:37.805 --> 00:23:41.095 Like if you have two terminals running with different processes, you just 00:23:41.135 --> 00:23:43.565 have two separate full windows open. 00:23:44.515 --> 00:23:44.915 Okay. 00:23:45.045 --> 00:23:48.175 Colin: And I think most people are doing NeoVim with Tmux and 00:23:48.175 --> 00:23:49.975 just doing it at one window. 00:23:50.325 --> 00:23:50.725 CJ: I see. 00:23:51.275 --> 00:23:56.835 I, yeah, there was a period of a few years where I use T MUX pretty regularly. 00:23:56.855 --> 00:24:02.355 And in the same sort of view, I would split and on the left, I would 00:24:02.365 --> 00:24:04.505 have like my, all my VIM splits. 00:24:04.505 --> 00:24:07.665 And on the right, I would have like several sort of just like 00:24:07.665 --> 00:24:11.625 terminal, whatever shell windows open for running different processes. 00:24:12.620 --> 00:24:16.880 But recently I've just been like using tabs, like just tons and tons of tabs. 00:24:16.880 --> 00:24:19.550 So in work, we'll have like five or six different tabs open. 00:24:19.920 --> 00:24:21.170 One's running the web server. 00:24:21.170 --> 00:24:22.590 One is like rails console. 00:24:22.600 --> 00:24:23.760 One is Vim. 00:24:23.960 --> 00:24:26.340 And another one inevitably ends up being Vim. 00:24:26.340 --> 00:24:30.800 And then just like whenever I need a new terminals, like open a new tab and 00:24:30.990 --> 00:24:35.270 it works fine and inside of them, I'll, I'll use splits, but I don't use tabs. 00:24:35.770 --> 00:24:36.330 Inside of them. 00:24:36.330 --> 00:24:39.780 So it kind of like, that's my separation is like splits in the editor 00:24:40.150 --> 00:24:42.080 tabs in the terminal and that's it. 00:24:42.180 --> 00:24:46.840 And yeah, it seems to work pretty well, but yeah, jumping between 00:24:46.840 --> 00:24:48.310 different windows might be tricky. 00:24:48.810 --> 00:24:51.220 Colin: Usually when I do different windows, it'll be like, I put 00:24:51.220 --> 00:24:54.990 Ngrok in one window and then I have my app running in another one. 00:24:55.040 --> 00:24:59.100 So it's usually not like client running in one back end, running 00:24:59.100 --> 00:25:01.000 in one, or hopefully it's like. 00:25:01.725 --> 00:25:06.045 I can do use yarn to run both in one window or something, but 00:25:06.045 --> 00:25:11.615 CJ: And then how would you say, like, are you using that on top 00:25:11.935 --> 00:25:14.635 of the terminals inside of VS code or do you use the VS code 00:25:14.750 --> 00:25:18.140 Colin: I do use the terminal and VS code as well. 00:25:18.210 --> 00:25:22.710 On this machine, we actually work in coder instances. 00:25:22.710 --> 00:25:24.840 So virtual environments. 00:25:24.850 --> 00:25:26.100 So like. 00:25:26.390 --> 00:25:31.140 We're using VS codes, remote explore to like SSH into a full environment. 00:25:31.750 --> 00:25:36.190 And so I will use the terminal there because I am not on my machine, but 00:25:36.190 --> 00:25:40.720 you could also just go from your terminal and remote in, like if you 00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:44.160 were running everything in warp, you could just do that instead. 00:25:44.490 --> 00:25:47.180 We just, all of our tooling is built around VS code. 00:25:47.180 --> 00:25:49.120 So most people are using that. 00:25:49.790 --> 00:25:50.680 So yeah, there's that. 00:25:51.040 --> 00:25:52.210 And then like in. 00:25:52.805 --> 00:25:56.125 This alacrity test that I was doing, this is a, this actually affects 00:25:56.365 --> 00:26:01.355 all my Z shell stuff, but I have zoxide, which is like a better CD. 00:26:01.475 --> 00:26:04.245 I have as a, which is a better LS. 00:26:04.305 --> 00:26:10.655 I have F F ZF for fuzzy finding, and then a bunch of Zish, like auto suggestions, 00:26:10.665 --> 00:26:12.165 syntax and highlighting stuff. 00:26:12.495 --> 00:26:14.925 My, my terminal looks completely different now. 00:26:14.925 --> 00:26:17.765 And I'm like, not sure which one of these things is changing what. 00:26:18.235 --> 00:26:18.745 But it's. 00:26:19.065 --> 00:26:23.365 Pretty cool to be able to like alias CD into Zoxide and not even 00:26:23.365 --> 00:26:25.565 be using the real CD anymore. 00:26:26.035 --> 00:26:28.735 Can be a little bit weird when I want a machine that doesn't have it because I get 00:26:28.735 --> 00:26:33.035 used to, like I can just type in a folder I've been to recently and I'm just there. 00:26:33.075 --> 00:26:35.235 So, it's kind of nice. 00:26:36.390 --> 00:26:36.760 CJ: Nice. 00:26:36.810 --> 00:26:36.990 Yeah. 00:26:36.990 --> 00:26:41.300 I was chatting with my teammate drew a few weeks ago about his setup and he's 00:26:41.300 --> 00:26:44.820 been like tweaking it and trying to build it out of time and learning them. 00:26:44.820 --> 00:26:47.710 And he's really into Raycasts right now. 00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:52.090 Are you using like a Raycast Alfred type situation? 00:26:52.110 --> 00:26:56.010 Colin: have Ray cast and I use it purely to open other apps. 00:26:56.060 --> 00:26:58.660 Like I do not use 99 percent of it. 00:26:58.660 --> 00:27:03.670 I'm like, you know, command space, notion, and like, that's it. 00:27:05.150 --> 00:27:05.520 CJ: got it. 00:27:05.610 --> 00:27:05.950 Yeah. 00:27:05.950 --> 00:27:06.290 Same. 00:27:06.610 --> 00:27:12.840 I tried for a while, but I found that Raycast was like too many clicks almost. 00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:13.130 Right. 00:27:13.130 --> 00:27:16.570 Like there's a lot of extensions and anybody can build an extension. 00:27:16.990 --> 00:27:17.560 For it. 00:27:17.840 --> 00:27:22.010 But the way that it works is like you open your command palette, you type the 00:27:22.020 --> 00:27:23.610 name of the extension, you hit enter. 00:27:23.610 --> 00:27:25.890 And that brings you like into the extension, it kind 00:27:25.890 --> 00:27:27.200 of like opens the extension. 00:27:27.250 --> 00:27:30.240 And then you have to like type again, or like arrow up and 00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:31.300 down again to do something. 00:27:31.300 --> 00:27:34.870 I'm like, if I'm gonna, if I need to like arrow around, I might as 00:27:34.870 --> 00:27:36.100 well just do this from the browser. 00:27:36.130 --> 00:27:39.860 And most of the things that I need or would need from it are available either 00:27:39.860 --> 00:27:41.020 in the browser or in the terminal. 00:27:41.020 --> 00:27:43.760 And so I'm like, okay, I've already got the tool. 00:27:45.540 --> 00:27:46.730 So, yeah, I don't know. 00:27:46.730 --> 00:27:51.000 I, I wonder if there's parts of my process that could be sped up 00:27:51.010 --> 00:27:55.540 by using Raycast or any of those like spotlight type situations. 00:27:55.540 --> 00:27:57.680 But yeah, I haven't, haven't really 00:27:57.745 --> 00:28:01.035 Colin: like, just, just be okay with not optimizing everything. 00:28:01.940 --> 00:28:03.030 CJ: Yeah, I 00:28:03.530 --> 00:28:07.280 Colin: The another one that's on this list for me is Fantastical. 00:28:07.750 --> 00:28:10.330 It's just my default replacement for calendaring. 00:28:10.930 --> 00:28:15.320 Mostly because when I'm usually on a, I even put it on my work machine 00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:18.380 because I, have you used Fantastical? 00:28:19.215 --> 00:28:19.775 CJ: have not 00:28:20.530 --> 00:28:22.140 Colin: it lets you create like a grouping. 00:28:22.140 --> 00:28:25.840 So I have like the ability to see all of my calendars, like my personal ones, 00:28:25.840 --> 00:28:29.870 the reflective ones, the discord ones, or I can create like a discord Venn 00:28:29.900 --> 00:28:33.910 diagram and a personal Venn diagram and I can toggle between them and it like 00:28:33.940 --> 00:28:36.100 turns on and off different calendars. 00:28:36.620 --> 00:28:40.080 So I can see, like, I don't want to see every calendar at all times. 00:28:40.080 --> 00:28:43.370 I don't want to see the discord PTO calendar at all times, stuff like that. 00:28:43.970 --> 00:28:46.410 So just more probably creature of habit. 00:28:46.515 --> 00:28:50.005 And the last one, which I'm really trying to replace with what we're going to talk 00:28:50.005 --> 00:28:54.965 about next week, which is the second braining type thing is that I installed 00:28:54.985 --> 00:29:00.675 text mate on every machine purely as like a scratch pad because it's like super fast 00:29:00.685 --> 00:29:02.705 to open as many windows as you need to. 00:29:02.735 --> 00:29:07.885 And it does mean that I usually have like 10 unsaved text mate windows 00:29:07.885 --> 00:29:12.875 open at any given time, and I'm hoping to put those in a system that 00:29:12.945 --> 00:29:14.895 is a little bit more organized and. 00:29:15.230 --> 00:29:19.620 Like if I lose my, my machine restarts, I don't lose all 00:29:19.620 --> 00:29:21.000 my notes and stuff like that. 00:29:21.120 --> 00:29:21.470 So, 00:29:22.695 --> 00:29:23.275 CJ: Yes. 00:29:23.595 --> 00:29:25.825 That would give me some heartburn for sure. 00:29:26.025 --> 00:29:27.925 Like not having those saved. 00:29:27.935 --> 00:29:28.405 So, 00:29:28.490 --> 00:29:32.210 Colin: sometimes I save them all as just like, whatever the date 00:29:32.210 --> 00:29:34.470 is and that never go back to them. 00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:34.920 So, 00:29:36.040 --> 00:29:36.530 CJ: Nice. 00:29:38.060 --> 00:29:40.160 I agree that TextMate is wicked fast to open. 00:29:40.190 --> 00:29:42.510 And yeah, it's like a classic, right? 00:29:42.510 --> 00:29:49.600 Like, the, the, the shortcuts or whatever, like the, the early TextMate 00:29:49.600 --> 00:29:52.680 shortcuts plus nice syntax highlighting. 00:29:52.690 --> 00:29:54.690 It had like the, the early theming. 00:29:54.740 --> 00:29:57.070 And there were a few Ruby devs that used it early on. 00:29:57.070 --> 00:30:01.370 You've watched like old peep code videos with yeah, some, some early Rubyists text 00:30:01.370 --> 00:30:05.360 mate was the go to and yeah, I still, I guess have some nostalgia for it. 00:30:05.570 --> 00:30:06.550 So yeah, it's 00:30:06.605 --> 00:30:07.995 Colin: You can still install it. 00:30:08.155 --> 00:30:08.505 It still 00:30:08.900 --> 00:30:09.790 CJ: yeah, yeah, yeah, 00:30:10.965 --> 00:30:11.535 Colin: Nice. 00:30:12.800 --> 00:30:13.540 CJ: So yeah. 00:30:13.540 --> 00:30:15.010 What are you working on with jumpstart? 00:30:15.060 --> 00:30:15.830 This is exciting. 00:30:16.285 --> 00:30:20.575 Colin: I've I've had jumpstart for a while and not really built anything with it. 00:30:20.685 --> 00:30:26.715 And I've decided to start working on my own thing on the side to just have it. 00:30:26.765 --> 00:30:31.205 And instead of like figuring out when to find time for it, I've, anytime 00:30:31.205 --> 00:30:32.905 I wake up early and just like. 00:30:33.205 --> 00:30:37.815 There are some days where I wake up early and I can just pop up and it's my day. 00:30:38.215 --> 00:30:39.535 And sometimes that's at six 30. 00:30:39.545 --> 00:30:44.715 So I've been trying to use that time instead of like, just scrolling 00:30:44.725 --> 00:30:48.165 on the internet or doing whatever it's like time to time to code. 00:30:48.165 --> 00:30:52.355 So now I'm gonna talk about what I'm building yet, but I was pretty 00:30:52.355 --> 00:30:57.345 impressed with how quickly I have it running and being able to OAuth 00:30:57.365 --> 00:31:00.515 with your Gmail account so that. 00:31:01.255 --> 00:31:02.285 That's like all done. 00:31:02.785 --> 00:31:07.895 Now I'm starting to think like how to approach accessing your Gmail data. 00:31:07.955 --> 00:31:09.545 So that's, that's what I'm working on. 00:31:09.625 --> 00:31:09.745 CJ: hmm. 00:31:11.505 --> 00:31:11.885 Yeah. 00:31:11.935 --> 00:31:12.445 Very cool. 00:31:12.475 --> 00:31:12.995 Very cool. 00:31:13.495 --> 00:31:20.215 Is it, are you finding that the early mornings is working, working well for 00:31:20.215 --> 00:31:21.915 your energy for the rest of the day too? 00:31:21.925 --> 00:31:22.525 Like 00:31:22.985 --> 00:31:26.085 Colin: It's, it's been helpful because I know if I want to work 00:31:26.085 --> 00:31:29.615 on it, then it makes me make decisions the night before about. 00:31:30.145 --> 00:31:33.025 If it's like, I know that I can't do both. 00:31:33.035 --> 00:31:35.875 So if I'm going to stay up late, well, then I'm going to lose 00:31:35.895 --> 00:31:37.105 project time in the morning. 00:31:37.575 --> 00:31:40.565 And I'm not doing project that night and projects in the morning. 00:31:40.565 --> 00:31:43.405 So it's usually going to be like, I'm trying to get away from 00:31:43.405 --> 00:31:45.065 computers after work and stuff. 00:31:45.065 --> 00:31:49.755 So usually like after work, I am not in a place where I want to go code. 00:31:49.755 --> 00:31:53.475 So this is kind of like the paying yourself first type thing. 00:31:53.565 --> 00:31:55.565 I'm just working on my own thing first. 00:31:56.090 --> 00:31:58.770 And we'll see if it turns into a thing that just as a toy for me to 00:31:58.780 --> 00:32:03.230 play with or something that maybe I can make available to other people. 00:32:04.615 --> 00:32:05.095 CJ: nice. 00:32:05.965 --> 00:32:06.195 Yeah. 00:32:06.195 --> 00:32:11.715 I definitely have started to recognize how much energy I get from making, 00:32:11.895 --> 00:32:16.065 just making stuff for myself or, you know, like working on stuff that's like 00:32:16.735 --> 00:32:23.025 No judgment, no input from anybody, no questions, no like bureaucracy, 00:32:23.025 --> 00:32:25.975 no slow down, no nothing no critique. 00:32:26.075 --> 00:32:26.725 Colin: You can just do 00:32:26.820 --> 00:32:27.760 CJ: just like, I don't know. 00:32:28.060 --> 00:32:29.340 Yeah, exactly how freeing it is. 00:32:29.340 --> 00:32:30.680 I'm like, yeah, I like this font. 00:32:30.700 --> 00:32:31.690 This is a cool ass font. 00:32:31.710 --> 00:32:34.540 I'm going to pick this font, you know, like, or I don't know, whatever, you 00:32:34.540 --> 00:32:38.520 know so yeah, I started building out a tool for, for building friction logs. 00:32:38.540 --> 00:32:43.320 It was actually kind of inspired by these like second brain, Tool or 00:32:43.320 --> 00:32:44.880 like the second brain editor style. 00:32:45.330 --> 00:32:48.460 So we'll, we'll talk about it obviously more next time, but the building in 00:32:48.470 --> 00:32:53.450 these chunks or blocks like log seek has kind of inspired a pattern that 00:32:53.450 --> 00:32:55.620 I want to use for friction logging. 00:32:55.620 --> 00:32:59.860 So more to come on that, but yeah, it's been fun to kind of like, just 00:32:59.860 --> 00:33:01.970 build a little, build a little toy. 00:33:02.205 --> 00:33:04.845 Colin: friction logging tool is a personal project. 00:33:05.395 --> 00:33:06.515 CJ: Yeah, so I think. 00:33:07.115 --> 00:33:14.085 For, for a long time, I have wanted to build a service for developer 00:33:14.085 --> 00:33:18.365 products companies to provide them with developer feedback. 00:33:18.475 --> 00:33:25.245 So I am going to create like a first look video that goes over a bunch of 00:33:25.295 --> 00:33:28.465 You know, early observations about their getting started, and then I'm 00:33:28.505 --> 00:33:30.475 going to build a friction logs for them. 00:33:30.475 --> 00:33:32.155 So it'll be kind of like super detail. 00:33:32.155 --> 00:33:35.945 Let me go through an entire product experience and end integrating 00:33:35.945 --> 00:33:41.155 it, and I'll take copious detailed notes as I go, and then the 00:33:41.155 --> 00:33:43.325 last will be like a zoom call. 00:33:43.325 --> 00:33:46.406 And then I'm going to be working with them to like, just go over all the findings, 00:33:46.446 --> 00:33:48.106 make recommendations, suggestions. 00:33:48.516 --> 00:33:51.636 So this is, it's a service that I'm working on building out. 00:33:51.696 --> 00:33:56.366 And so as part of that, I want to provide friction logs in a way that 00:33:56.366 --> 00:34:01.346 is digestible by engineering teams so that they can like take the 00:34:01.356 --> 00:34:03.516 content of it and easily action it. 00:34:04.326 --> 00:34:07.716 In the past, I've just written them into a Google doc as like, there's just 00:34:07.766 --> 00:34:10.306 giant stream of consciousness almost. 00:34:10.326 --> 00:34:14.841 And at the end of that, Sometimes they're like many, many pages long. 00:34:15.661 --> 00:34:16.221 So that's right. 00:34:16.281 --> 00:34:19.651 I, there was one that was like 20 something pages long and you just give 00:34:19.651 --> 00:34:22.011 it to an engineering manager and they have to kind of like go through each 00:34:22.011 --> 00:34:26.301 bullet, pull it out, make a JIRA ticket assigned to the right person and whatever. 00:34:26.731 --> 00:34:31.121 And so each of those, my thought for these friction logs, I'm going to build it in 00:34:31.121 --> 00:34:36.221 such a way that like each of these chunks can be actionable so that from the UI you 00:34:36.221 --> 00:34:40.221 can click like add to linear or add to JIRA and it'll open a ticket automatically 00:34:40.221 --> 00:34:41.581 for you for each of those things. 00:34:41.991 --> 00:34:42.431 So. 00:34:42.951 --> 00:34:43.411 Colin: it. 00:34:43.451 --> 00:34:45.091 It's got the why. 00:34:45.231 --> 00:34:45.641 Yeah. 00:34:45.741 --> 00:34:46.231 All of that. 00:34:46.336 --> 00:34:46.936 CJ: Exactly. 00:34:46.946 --> 00:34:48.836 Screenshots, like the whole shebang. 00:34:49.026 --> 00:34:49.286 And 00:34:49.601 --> 00:34:53.381 Colin: I remember, I remember working on the Stripe premium app for Orbit. 00:34:53.381 --> 00:34:56.781 We had a friction log in a Google doc and it was, it was painful. 00:34:56.851 --> 00:35:01.181 Like, and like even being able to do back and forth comments with, with 00:35:01.181 --> 00:35:05.581 the person who provided it and then the PM or the engineer and assign it. 00:35:06.011 --> 00:35:06.741 That's pretty cool. 00:35:07.831 --> 00:35:08.431 I can see it. 00:35:08.586 --> 00:35:10.786 CJ: So heckin on that. 00:35:10.836 --> 00:35:13.856 Similarly, yeah, just on the side when, when I've got free time. 00:35:14.306 --> 00:35:17.616 And in the past we've talked about how like we, we like these 00:35:17.626 --> 00:35:21.586 side projects, but the way that I procrastinate a side project is 00:35:21.596 --> 00:35:23.726 by doing work, like actual work. 00:35:24.616 --> 00:35:28.076 And so we'll see how much actual work gets in the way of the side project. 00:35:28.156 --> 00:35:33.926 Colin: Yeah, for me, it's been go reorganize the kitchen drawers, or, 00:35:35.446 --> 00:35:37.276 which I can't do at 6 30 in the morning. 00:35:37.276 --> 00:35:37.916 So it's good. 00:35:37.936 --> 00:35:39.831 I'm like, Chanel's asleep. 00:35:39.921 --> 00:35:42.611 I gotta, gotta work on quiet things. 00:35:42.621 --> 00:35:44.661 So very cool. 00:35:45.091 --> 00:35:48.411 Well, I think a good way to wrap this too, is we talked about 00:35:48.411 --> 00:35:49.621 a lot of things that we use. 00:35:50.051 --> 00:35:54.901 You have a users page on your website, cjav. 00:35:54.921 --> 00:35:57.191 dev slash uses. 00:35:57.391 --> 00:36:00.081 I need to eventually build my own website. 00:36:00.441 --> 00:36:04.311 I have like a template up that I want to create my own 00:36:04.311 --> 00:36:06.011 users page as well, but we'll. 00:36:06.226 --> 00:36:10.376 Put links to a bunch of the things that we talked about, a bunch of the gear. 00:36:11.306 --> 00:36:15.686 Don't go buy all the stuff we use, go find something that works for you. 00:36:16.326 --> 00:36:18.286 But yeah, I think that'll do it for this episode. 00:36:19.441 --> 00:36:19.811 CJ: Awesome. 00:36:20.376 --> 00:36:20.686 Colin: Cool. 00:36:21.646 --> 00:36:22.506 Thanks for listening. 00:36:22.506 --> 00:36:27.046 And as always, you can go check out notes for the show at build and learn. 00:36:27.046 --> 00:36:27.736 dev. 00:36:27.756 --> 00:36:29.946 We'll have links to all the things that we talked about. 00:36:30.576 --> 00:36:31.376 We'll catch you next time. 00:36:32.635 --> 00:36:33.285 CJ: Thanks for listening. 00:36:33.375 --> 00:36:33.765 Bye friends.