1 00:00:00,954 --> 00:00:05,043 Hello everyone and welcome back to Bikinis After Babies. 2 00:00:05,043 --> 00:00:07,614 Thank you so much for joining us today. 3 00:00:07,614 --> 00:00:12,374 I am one of your hosts, Mandy Rashawn, here with your other beautiful blonde 4 00:00:12,374 --> 00:00:13,574 host. 5 00:00:13,681 --> 00:00:16,221 Hey everybody, thank you so much for tuning in. 6 00:00:16,221 --> 00:00:20,931 This is Gillian Hughes and welcome to another episode of Bikinis After Babies. 7 00:00:20,931 --> 00:00:23,941 We have a very special episode for you today. 8 00:00:23,941 --> 00:00:29,161 We are actually bringing on one of our clients who recently competed in her very 9 00:00:29,161 --> 00:00:30,901 first bikini competition. 10 00:00:30,901 --> 00:00:36,761 She had a wonderful experience and she got a really great placing and made quite an 11 00:00:36,761 --> 00:00:37,421 impression. 12 00:00:37,421 --> 00:00:41,744 So we thought it would be really great to bring on a true novice competitor. 13 00:00:41,744 --> 00:00:44,224 who can share her experience. 14 00:00:44,224 --> 00:00:46,764 So we have Josie Kloppenberg today. 15 00:00:46,764 --> 00:00:53,504 She is a mama, she's a wife, and fun fact, her husband actually did this competition 16 00:00:53,504 --> 00:00:53,994 with her. 17 00:00:53,994 --> 00:00:57,384 This is now a week and a half, two weeks ago that she competed for the very first 18 00:00:57,384 --> 00:00:58,023 time. 19 00:00:58,023 --> 00:01:00,924 So welcome to Bikinis After Babies Josie. 20 00:01:00,924 --> 00:01:02,944 Thank you for joining us today. 21 00:01:03,049 --> 00:01:06,287 Thanks guys, thanks so much for having me, this is awesome. 22 00:01:08,048 --> 00:01:12,188 Yeah, we're just really excited to have you share your experience. 23 00:01:12,288 --> 00:01:16,087 It's not typical for a mom to just be like, I think I'd like to do a bikini 24 00:01:16,087 --> 00:01:16,558 competition. 25 00:01:16,558 --> 00:01:18,588 But we talk to those women all the time. 26 00:01:18,588 --> 00:01:23,668 And I just thought it would be really fun for you to kind of share the experience of 27 00:01:23,668 --> 00:01:28,368 your competition journey and your first competition and maybe some surprising fun 28 00:01:28,368 --> 00:01:33,608 things that happened around that experience that our listeners will enjoy. 29 00:01:33,608 --> 00:01:38,001 But I always kind of like to start with your background and where 30 00:01:38,001 --> 00:01:40,041 you got started in fitness. 31 00:01:40,424 --> 00:01:40,764 Yeah. 32 00:01:40,764 --> 00:01:47,924 So, I mean, I've been going to the gym probably now going on, gosh, it's almost 33 00:01:47,924 --> 00:01:48,964 been 20 years. 34 00:01:48,964 --> 00:01:53,724 So I've always, you know, just worked out maybe two or three times a week, just kind 35 00:01:53,724 --> 00:01:55,824 of here and there, like keeping up with it. 36 00:01:55,824 --> 00:01:59,604 And for a while I'd get into it a little bit more and then I'd, you know, stop for 37 00:01:59,604 --> 00:02:00,564 a little bit. 38 00:02:00,564 --> 00:02:03,584 So kind of all on and off for a long time. 39 00:02:03,584 --> 00:02:07,474 And, you know, it's something I've always thought about was competing. 40 00:02:07,884 --> 00:02:10,215 but, you know, I had become a mom and. 41 00:02:10,215 --> 00:02:12,075 you know, things get busy and everything. 42 00:02:12,075 --> 00:02:16,525 And it just kind of, you know, I just kind of forgot about it or I thought, maybe, 43 00:02:16,525 --> 00:02:18,715 you know, maybe someday I'll do it. 44 00:02:18,715 --> 00:02:26,895 But kind of how it all started for me was, you know, I had some dietary issues and 45 00:02:26,895 --> 00:02:30,555 some, you know, GI issues that I had to get worked out. 46 00:02:30,615 --> 00:02:34,055 And I, you know, came to the point where I wasn't eating a whole, you know, wasn't 47 00:02:34,055 --> 00:02:37,495 able to eat a whole lot, like, you know, and I had to cut down to basically all 48 00:02:37,495 --> 00:02:38,930 clean foods. 49 00:02:39,442 --> 00:02:43,162 and so I started to get really lean and then I was like, well, this is kind of 50 00:02:43,162 --> 00:02:44,222 nice, you know? 51 00:02:44,222 --> 00:02:48,722 And, so I started building some muscle and I was like, okay, well, if I'm eating 52 00:02:48,722 --> 00:02:52,952 clean now, like maybe I could actually, you know, do this. 53 00:02:52,952 --> 00:02:58,142 So, you know, that's when I reached out to you all and, you kind of helped me get 54 00:02:58,142 --> 00:03:00,642 right on track for my first competition. 55 00:03:00,642 --> 00:03:02,162 So. 56 00:03:02,382 --> 00:03:02,959 Yeah. 57 00:03:02,959 --> 00:03:09,039 I think we can all like speak to like that moment that we like first saw a competitor 58 00:03:09,039 --> 00:03:12,619 and I think like the reaction is like similar. 59 00:03:12,619 --> 00:03:14,179 It's either like, wow, that's cool. 60 00:03:14,179 --> 00:03:17,499 I want to do it or like that's not for me, which we didn't have that reaction 61 00:03:17,499 --> 00:03:17,979 obviously. 62 00:03:17,979 --> 00:03:21,539 So like when is the first time that you like learned about competitions and 63 00:03:21,539 --> 00:03:24,299 thought like that might be something that you'd like to do? 64 00:03:24,612 --> 00:03:30,172 I mean, I think it was probably, it was almost going back 10, 15 years. 65 00:03:30,272 --> 00:03:33,512 it would have been Jamie Eason, which I actually don't, I haven't looked her up in 66 00:03:33,512 --> 00:03:34,732 quite a bit. 67 00:03:34,912 --> 00:03:39,792 you know, I don't know if she was actually in, you know, in the bodybuilding or if 68 00:03:39,792 --> 00:03:43,132 she was just like a sports model, but I kept seeing her and I bought her protein 69 00:03:43,132 --> 00:03:45,362 powder, you know, going back ages ago. 70 00:03:45,362 --> 00:03:48,492 And like, I was like, I want to look like her someday. 71 00:03:48,492 --> 00:03:52,804 And like, I just, I don't think I had the tools to, to do it. 72 00:03:52,804 --> 00:03:54,654 I know the internet was around. 73 00:03:54,654 --> 00:03:58,004 I just, you know, would just do the workouts online and everything, but I 74 00:03:58,004 --> 00:04:01,224 never really dove too, too far into it. 75 00:04:01,224 --> 00:04:05,304 So it was kind of always just like a someday, you know, kind of thing. 76 00:04:05,304 --> 00:04:09,064 And, and when, you know, my husband and I started really getting into the gym, we 77 00:04:09,064 --> 00:04:13,669 were like, okay, let's, you know, we should actually do this. 78 00:04:14,734 --> 00:04:15,630 Yeah. 79 00:04:15,630 --> 00:04:16,750 No, definitely. 80 00:04:16,750 --> 00:04:21,950 I remember seeing her for the first time as well and just being like, my God, like 81 00:04:21,950 --> 00:04:27,350 her, her shape, like, and she is like, honestly, she's actually, I think, I think 82 00:04:27,350 --> 00:04:28,870 we follow each other on Instagram. 83 00:04:28,870 --> 00:04:33,450 I don't even know how she followed me back, but she's still fit. 84 00:04:33,450 --> 00:04:34,490 She's a mom. 85 00:04:34,490 --> 00:04:35,600 She's still really fit. 86 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,510 At least she's competed in a really long time. 87 00:04:37,510 --> 00:04:42,070 But it was that signature blonde Bob and she had just like a great look. 88 00:04:42,070 --> 00:04:46,049 And, and I think she, yeah, she was a bikini competitor like, 89 00:04:46,049 --> 00:04:47,689 the NPC had bikini. 90 00:04:47,689 --> 00:04:49,669 So I mean, I'm the bikini dinosaur. 91 00:04:49,669 --> 00:04:52,869 That's kind of my role here to give you all the history lesson of the sport. 92 00:04:52,869 --> 00:04:56,539 But anyways, yeah, I mean, I was very similar for me. 93 00:04:56,539 --> 00:04:58,429 Like I saw her and Jennifer Nicole Lee. 94 00:04:58,429 --> 00:05:01,189 I don't know if you remember her, but she was like another one that I had seen. 95 00:05:01,189 --> 00:05:03,299 And I was like, I want to do that, too. 96 00:05:03,299 --> 00:05:05,469 And I think Jennifer Nicole Lee had babies. 97 00:05:05,469 --> 00:05:07,089 And I was like, well, that's really neat. 98 00:05:07,089 --> 00:05:08,869 I had started competing before kids. 99 00:05:08,869 --> 00:05:12,709 But but did you ever think that you'd be doing your first bikini competition like 100 00:05:12,709 --> 00:05:13,609 in your 30s? 101 00:05:13,609 --> 00:05:15,849 Because you're you're still under 40, right? 102 00:05:15,849 --> 00:05:16,749 I am. 103 00:05:16,749 --> 00:05:19,049 I'm pushing 40, 40 August 1st. 104 00:05:19,049 --> 00:05:24,149 So, you know, I'm still there, but no, I, I didn't set it out to be like a bucket 105 00:05:24,149 --> 00:05:27,949 list type of thing, like, before you're 40, but now it's almost like, I feel like 106 00:05:27,949 --> 00:05:31,689 I could just make a bucket list and I can already just check it off. 107 00:05:31,949 --> 00:05:40,089 So, no, but I mean, it's, it's, it's been a long time, you know, in, in the works, I 108 00:05:40,089 --> 00:05:41,793 guess you could say, but. 109 00:05:41,793 --> 00:05:47,093 I had a great experience and hopefully this is just the beginning for me in the 110 00:05:47,093 --> 00:05:47,800 sport. 111 00:05:50,154 --> 00:05:51,454 yeah, absolutely. 112 00:05:51,990 --> 00:05:56,270 Yeah, so what was it like preparing for a competition, not only a competition, but 113 00:05:56,270 --> 00:05:58,770 your first competition with your husband? 114 00:05:59,456 --> 00:06:01,426 Yeah, I mean, it was definitely interesting. 115 00:06:01,426 --> 00:06:04,516 There was a lot of preparation involved. 116 00:06:04,576 --> 00:06:10,136 So, but it was cool to have somebody on my team going through the process with me. 117 00:06:10,566 --> 00:06:14,976 you know, we didn't set out to, to compete on the same day. 118 00:06:15,136 --> 00:06:17,956 but that's kind of what ended up happening. 119 00:06:18,696 --> 00:06:23,016 and we just kind of were like, all right, we're doing this, a lot of time in the 120 00:06:23,016 --> 00:06:23,816 kitchen together. 121 00:06:23,816 --> 00:06:27,476 He was always my little helper with, with prepping, you know, we'd have all our 122 00:06:27,476 --> 00:06:29,311 containers out and he'd help me. 123 00:06:29,311 --> 00:06:34,971 Chop stuff up and I'd be cooking and he'd be bagging up oatmeal and everything. 124 00:06:34,971 --> 00:06:40,311 So it worked out to have somebody that's in it with you that understands the work 125 00:06:40,311 --> 00:06:44,791 behind it and just kind of understands everything that you're going through 126 00:06:44,791 --> 00:06:45,911 during the process. 127 00:06:47,674 --> 00:06:49,994 It's really nice to have somebody like that. 128 00:06:49,994 --> 00:06:53,794 You just never know when you have a partner that you're prepping with, a 129 00:06:53,794 --> 00:06:55,884 roommate, somebody you're living with, how it's gonna go. 130 00:06:55,884 --> 00:07:01,474 But to have your husband, that's such a good bonding time to be able to do that 131 00:07:01,474 --> 00:07:05,874 together and do it every week or every so many days and just be able to go through 132 00:07:05,874 --> 00:07:06,794 the process together. 133 00:07:06,794 --> 00:07:07,869 It's really neat. 134 00:07:07,869 --> 00:07:09,229 Yeah, it was fun. 135 00:07:09,229 --> 00:07:14,469 And so I don't know if we'll end up doing the same competition again at some point, 136 00:07:14,469 --> 00:07:20,069 but it was definitely cool to kind of do our first shows together. 137 00:07:20,069 --> 00:07:21,481 It was pretty special. 138 00:07:22,061 --> 00:07:26,080 Yeah, well I think that's great too because you were both beginners at the 139 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:26,881 same time. 140 00:07:26,881 --> 00:07:31,181 I think it'd be a different experience if you're like, I've been doing this for 141 00:07:31,181 --> 00:07:32,121 years. 142 00:07:32,121 --> 00:07:36,141 And you had that experience, but the fact that you're both doing it together. 143 00:07:36,141 --> 00:07:39,801 Was there ever a point where he was getting more food than you, or you had 144 00:07:39,801 --> 00:07:44,441 more cardio, or vice versa, where it was sort of just butting heads a little bit 145 00:07:44,441 --> 00:07:46,221 about whose diet was harder? 146 00:07:46,555 --> 00:07:49,295 think it was more like, I don't think it was butting heads. 147 00:07:49,295 --> 00:07:51,815 It was more like a friendly kind of like banter. 148 00:07:51,815 --> 00:07:56,175 Like he didn't have to do cardio at all because he burned so much at his job that, 149 00:07:56,175 --> 00:08:00,075 you know, is basically his cardio was getting 10 ,000 steps a day. 150 00:08:00,075 --> 00:08:02,985 And, you know, I am not a lover of cardio. 151 00:08:02,985 --> 00:08:06,755 Luckily there wasn't like a whole lot of that in my plan anyway. 152 00:08:06,755 --> 00:08:11,245 But so we joke about that a little bit, but yeah, of course everybody's different. 153 00:08:11,245 --> 00:08:13,855 So he had a completely different plan than I did. 154 00:08:13,855 --> 00:08:15,162 He was getting 155 00:08:15,162 --> 00:08:24,142 you know, 2800 to 3000 calories a day, you know, 300 grams of carbs a day and 156 00:08:24,142 --> 00:08:24,632 everything. 157 00:08:24,632 --> 00:08:26,752 So he was definitely on a different plan. 158 00:08:26,752 --> 00:08:31,822 So he would be over there, you know, eating his, you know, three tablespoons of 159 00:08:31,822 --> 00:08:32,322 peanut butter. 160 00:08:32,322 --> 00:08:36,442 And I'm like over here with my one little rice cake and a tablespoon of peanut 161 00:08:36,442 --> 00:08:36,862 butter. 162 00:08:36,862 --> 00:08:43,142 So we got some good laughs for sure, but eventually the tables kind of turned, you 163 00:08:43,142 --> 00:08:43,610 know, 164 00:08:43,610 --> 00:08:47,430 Peek week, you know, he was, you know, he was hungry a little bit and I was like, 165 00:08:47,430 --> 00:08:52,550 see, you know what it's like, but it was all in good fun for sure. 166 00:08:52,550 --> 00:08:54,190 Right. 167 00:08:54,700 --> 00:08:55,530 that's awesome. 168 00:08:55,530 --> 00:08:59,780 Because I think it's hard if like, you know, you're the one that's doing the prep 169 00:08:59,780 --> 00:09:03,240 and you feel tired and the other person is like maybe just not on the same page as 170 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,750 far as, you know, I mean, my husband and I juggle it pretty well. 171 00:09:06,750 --> 00:09:10,220 He's has no interest in competing and he's very, very supportive. 172 00:09:10,220 --> 00:09:13,780 But, you know, there's social things going on and I'm like in prep. 173 00:09:13,780 --> 00:09:14,285 I'm like. 174 00:09:14,285 --> 00:09:17,405 I'm probably not going to stay very long. 175 00:09:17,405 --> 00:09:20,645 And so it's nice that the two of you were in that together. 176 00:09:20,645 --> 00:09:22,125 So I think that's really cool. 177 00:09:22,125 --> 00:09:24,625 And then you've got three kids together, right? 178 00:09:24,625 --> 00:09:26,495 You have one and he has two. 179 00:09:26,495 --> 00:09:30,735 So what was it like juggling the household and all the kid activities? 180 00:09:30,735 --> 00:09:32,685 Because that's a lot. 181 00:09:32,792 --> 00:09:34,612 It is a lot. 182 00:09:34,612 --> 00:09:38,162 They weren't really in sports over the winter. 183 00:09:38,162 --> 00:09:43,232 I'd won in volleyball, which it snowed half the time and we didn't have to go out 184 00:09:43,232 --> 00:09:45,852 to practices anyway, so that worked out. 185 00:09:45,852 --> 00:09:47,332 But no, it's a lot. 186 00:09:47,332 --> 00:09:53,712 I mean, anytime you're balancing three kids just on a normal day is a lot. 187 00:09:54,032 --> 00:09:58,892 But I think it was just a lot of preparation. 188 00:09:59,512 --> 00:09:59,833 And if. 189 00:09:59,833 --> 00:10:04,213 time management was really important for us to be able to spend time with the kids 190 00:10:04,213 --> 00:10:09,213 and we had them on our weekends, you know, and not, you know, be in the kitchen all 191 00:10:09,213 --> 00:10:09,473 day. 192 00:10:09,473 --> 00:10:12,413 So we would kind of plan accordingly. 193 00:10:12,413 --> 00:10:17,073 But, you know, they eat different foods than us. 194 00:10:17,073 --> 00:10:23,253 So that's, you know, always kind of a juggling act is, you know, our food is 195 00:10:23,253 --> 00:10:27,353 already prepped and made and it's like, now we got to feed them too. 196 00:10:27,353 --> 00:10:27,832 So. 197 00:10:27,832 --> 00:10:33,492 Yeah, it's definitely a lot of work, but I think, you know, I'm a list writer, so 198 00:10:33,492 --> 00:10:39,252 write your list, decide what's for dinner every day, and you just got to make it 199 00:10:39,252 --> 00:10:39,692 happen. 200 00:10:39,692 --> 00:10:41,346 Just go, go, go. 201 00:10:42,667 --> 00:10:43,531 Yeah. 202 00:10:43,531 --> 00:10:47,871 I feel like a lot of moms tell me that like after the show, the thing that they 203 00:10:47,871 --> 00:10:51,871 like crave the most or they miss the most about prep was like the structure because 204 00:10:51,871 --> 00:10:55,811 it kind of just keeps things in line and you don't really have to think about what 205 00:10:55,811 --> 00:10:58,011 you're eating because you just eat what's on your plan. 206 00:10:58,011 --> 00:11:01,291 And then when you have so much choice and a little bit more freedom, it's kind of 207 00:11:01,291 --> 00:11:04,751 like this missing that structure piece of prep. 208 00:11:04,751 --> 00:11:07,131 So even though there are, you know, the sides, they're like, I wish I just a 209 00:11:07,131 --> 00:11:10,971 little more energy and maybe a little more calories and, you know, I could take a 210 00:11:10,971 --> 00:11:11,671 rest day. 211 00:11:11,671 --> 00:11:13,977 It's sort of like, well, I actually was. 212 00:11:13,977 --> 00:11:16,771 and doing really well with all that on my plate. 213 00:11:16,910 --> 00:11:19,770 Yeah, I mean, even that. 214 00:11:19,810 --> 00:11:20,450 huh. 215 00:11:21,150 --> 00:11:21,466 Yeah. 216 00:11:21,466 --> 00:11:24,746 Yeah, we have a lot of clients that have come back to us that are previous 217 00:11:24,746 --> 00:11:29,946 competitors and they miss that they miss it so much and because they don't know how 218 00:11:29,946 --> 00:11:34,426 to balance all of it they miss the structure and how to do it so a lot of 219 00:11:34,426 --> 00:11:37,685 even competitors that decide they don't want to compete anymore and they just want 220 00:11:37,685 --> 00:11:42,126 to learn how to have the lifestyle like they have to they need to be coached to 221 00:11:42,126 --> 00:11:48,266 learn how to be able to have a lifestyle and structure themselves without like, you 222 00:11:48,266 --> 00:11:51,206 know giving into temptation all the time and never succeeding and feeling 223 00:11:51,206 --> 00:11:51,912 overwhelmed. 224 00:11:51,912 --> 00:11:55,572 chaotic, but just how simple it is to just have your food and eat it. 225 00:11:55,572 --> 00:11:56,907 It's so simple. 226 00:11:56,907 --> 00:12:01,837 yeah, even so, even the day after the show, I felt like a little bit out of 227 00:12:01,837 --> 00:12:06,637 sorts, because I knew like, okay, well, this is a day that I can like, eat what I 228 00:12:06,637 --> 00:12:07,057 want. 229 00:12:07,057 --> 00:12:10,367 And, and I'm just like, but I don't know what to do. 230 00:12:10,367 --> 00:12:13,437 Like, I had no meals planned. 231 00:12:13,437 --> 00:12:15,737 I'm like, I have no food ready. 232 00:12:15,737 --> 00:12:17,597 So like, what do I do? 233 00:12:17,597 --> 00:12:20,817 But luckily we kind of hopped. 234 00:12:20,817 --> 00:12:24,501 Yeah, we hopped right back on the train on Monday and 235 00:12:24,501 --> 00:12:29,861 I had got my reverse diet plan already situated, so I was like, okay, this is, 236 00:12:29,861 --> 00:12:36,141 now, yeah, I'm like you, Gillian, I could use the structure and yeah, it feels good 237 00:12:36,141 --> 00:12:37,499 to be on track. 238 00:12:38,604 --> 00:12:39,884 Yeah, definitely. 239 00:12:39,884 --> 00:12:43,724 And I think that's definitely the personality that does really well with 240 00:12:43,724 --> 00:12:44,140 the... 241 00:12:44,140 --> 00:12:45,000 prep lifestyle. 242 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,760 And I think a lot of us have kind of moved away from even using the word prep because 243 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,020 it's all prep, like all parts of it. 244 00:12:51,020 --> 00:12:54,200 Like right now you're in your like improvement season. 245 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,560 And but I mean, the structure needs to exist in order to be successful. 246 00:12:57,560 --> 00:13:00,540 And, you know, it doesn't even matter how far you want to take this. 247 00:13:00,540 --> 00:13:03,290 Like you could your goal could be to win an overall. 248 00:13:03,290 --> 00:13:04,670 Your goal could be to go to nationals. 249 00:13:04,670 --> 00:13:05,900 Your goal could be a pro card. 250 00:13:05,900 --> 00:13:10,160 But like, I think if you're investing your time and your money in this and you have a 251 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,446 family like you owe it to yourself and your family to like put your 252 00:13:14,446 --> 00:13:19,886 ass into it and not your half ass right and so I think that the you know it's all 253 00:13:19,886 --> 00:13:23,826 important right like you can't you know dick around and then be like I wish I 254 00:13:23,826 --> 00:13:26,846 would have worked harder like the six months leaning into like you know getting 255 00:13:26,846 --> 00:13:33,346 ready for the show so so your journey was I think you started was it in the it was 256 00:13:33,346 --> 00:13:37,539 in the winter that you got started preparing for the April competition right? 257 00:13:37,933 --> 00:13:45,313 Yeah, we started the week after Thanksgiving, so end of November and yeah, 258 00:13:45,313 --> 00:13:48,273 all through Christmas, which was interesting with my work schedule. 259 00:13:48,273 --> 00:13:52,233 I work a lot during the month of December. 260 00:13:52,653 --> 00:13:57,453 So it was a lot to take on, but I was like, this is my time. 261 00:13:57,453 --> 00:14:03,273 And you pump yourself up for that date, that April 27th, it's always in your head. 262 00:14:03,273 --> 00:14:04,565 And... 263 00:14:04,565 --> 00:14:06,755 So I was pretty pumped the whole time. 264 00:14:06,755 --> 00:14:12,455 I didn't have a whole lot of worry or apprehension or anything. 265 00:14:12,455 --> 00:14:14,904 I was just excited more than anything. 266 00:14:16,076 --> 00:14:17,996 Yeah, I could definitely see that on stage. 267 00:14:17,996 --> 00:14:23,676 You worked really, really hard on your posing with us and then with your mom 268 00:14:23,676 --> 00:14:27,136 shell coach, Erica, who's one of our coaches on our team. 269 00:14:27,136 --> 00:14:32,816 Was the posing the part that maybe you found to be surprisingly challenging or 270 00:14:32,816 --> 00:14:35,088 was it something that came easy for you? 271 00:14:36,020 --> 00:14:37,990 You know, I was a cheerleader. 272 00:14:37,990 --> 00:14:41,920 So I think that helped a little bit just as far as being able to hit certain 273 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:42,920 motions. 274 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:48,960 But it was definitely a lot harder than I realized just to become kind of more 275 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,120 natural looking at it. 276 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:59,300 I think it's difficult for the that type of posing to be natural for somebody. 277 00:14:59,300 --> 00:15:02,804 So, yeah, and holding the poses, you know. 278 00:15:02,804 --> 00:15:08,204 was a lot, you know, come show day, you know, that was pretty intense having to 279 00:15:08,204 --> 00:15:10,104 hold for that long. 280 00:15:10,104 --> 00:15:15,324 And, you know, it was a lot of stamina involved and hurting feet. 281 00:15:15,644 --> 00:15:18,437 So it is. 282 00:15:18,437 --> 00:15:23,277 like that is that is a very surprising part of show day like how exhausting and 283 00:15:23,277 --> 00:15:27,257 just how long you are on stage because I think with one of the classes you were in 284 00:15:27,257 --> 00:15:33,837 there was like 15 or 16 girls and you guys were all on the sides and like coming out 285 00:15:33,837 --> 00:15:37,697 one by one and doing your routine which meant that while the other 15 girls were 286 00:15:37,697 --> 00:15:40,437 doing their routine you were standing on the side on your front pose and that 287 00:15:40,437 --> 00:15:45,028 happens a lot so so yeah so that part was 288 00:15:45,028 --> 00:15:48,278 Yeah, because it was like the one of the first classes that came up. 289 00:15:48,278 --> 00:15:52,448 So yeah, it was definitely up there a while. 290 00:15:52,448 --> 00:15:56,318 So and I'm sure I was shaking a little bit at some point. 291 00:15:56,318 --> 00:16:00,488 But yeah, I think that's super important if you know somebody goes into this, you 292 00:16:00,488 --> 00:16:05,328 know, being a novice to know like that's something you probably want to work on 293 00:16:05,328 --> 00:16:09,828 ahead of time, you know, pretty, pretty early and frequently and even, you know, 294 00:16:09,828 --> 00:16:10,836 going into. 295 00:16:10,836 --> 00:16:12,586 a second show eventually for me. 296 00:16:12,586 --> 00:16:16,916 I know that that's something that I'll probably still, you know, definitely still 297 00:16:16,916 --> 00:16:20,525 want to work on more, even put more time into. 298 00:16:22,029 --> 00:16:23,029 Yeah, it's tough. 299 00:16:23,029 --> 00:16:27,309 I mean, after like a long peak week and a long prep and then you've you think, like, 300 00:16:27,309 --> 00:16:30,989 showdown, I don't have to like train that day, but like to stand there and hold your 301 00:16:30,989 --> 00:16:36,309 pose and like look normal and natural and, you know, be able to like stay in a 302 00:16:36,309 --> 00:16:37,409 contorted position. 303 00:16:37,409 --> 00:16:39,724 It does take a lot of. 304 00:16:39,724 --> 00:16:44,584 I always tell my clients to like in the month leading into the show when they're 305 00:16:44,584 --> 00:16:49,484 practicing their posing every day to hold the front pose for like five minutes and 306 00:16:49,484 --> 00:16:53,984 just put a timer on and just to get used to it and so that it feels natural. 307 00:16:54,316 --> 00:16:58,416 But yeah, I think I could see it in the in the show, you know, because we had so many 308 00:16:58,416 --> 00:17:00,456 different categories, lots of beginners at that show. 309 00:17:00,456 --> 00:17:04,036 You could see that there was girls that they had beautiful posing, but they hadn't 310 00:17:04,036 --> 00:17:05,736 practiced holding it for a long time. 311 00:17:05,736 --> 00:17:08,756 And they're on the side and like their hips are starting to drop and their 312 00:17:08,756 --> 00:17:12,376 tummies are kind of not staying where they are and their shoulders are moving and or 313 00:17:12,376 --> 00:17:16,896 like the trembling to, you know, which that happens just with nerves. 314 00:17:16,896 --> 00:17:17,562 But. 315 00:17:17,562 --> 00:17:19,172 I see the trembling quite a bit. 316 00:17:19,172 --> 00:17:23,522 Even as you become more seasoned, people still tremble like a lot. 317 00:17:23,522 --> 00:17:26,502 It's something that's just so hard to get over after a while. 318 00:17:26,502 --> 00:17:30,042 But I do know like the classes that you were in, especially the true novice 319 00:17:30,042 --> 00:17:33,282 classes, they were large. 320 00:17:33,742 --> 00:17:36,902 They had a lot of women in there. 321 00:17:36,902 --> 00:17:40,822 And so I can win, because I expedited the show. 322 00:17:40,822 --> 00:17:44,162 So for all you listeners, I was at the show, but I was expediting moving 323 00:17:44,162 --> 00:17:47,788 everybody around, being a great person yelling, 324 00:17:47,788 --> 00:17:55,144 everybody but I still kept my voice yes 325 00:17:55,144 --> 00:17:57,764 so much feedback from the show and everybody said how organized it was. 326 00:17:57,764 --> 00:17:59,066 So you did a good job. 327 00:17:59,066 --> 00:17:59,566 Thank you. 328 00:17:59,566 --> 00:18:01,626 I got a lot of compliments about the show. 329 00:18:01,626 --> 00:18:04,006 So I was very happy about it. 330 00:18:04,006 --> 00:18:07,386 You just, there's so many people like you have to scream, but it's like, you guys 331 00:18:07,386 --> 00:18:08,786 know you use that mom voice. 332 00:18:08,786 --> 00:18:12,746 And that's what I always tell the people because a lot of the, a lot of the guys 333 00:18:12,746 --> 00:18:17,346 will kind of look at me and like, they will just be like, yes ma 'am, yes ma 'am, 334 00:18:17,346 --> 00:18:18,166 yes ma 'am. 335 00:18:18,166 --> 00:18:22,936 And I'm like, they will be a 200 pound giant, like hovering over me. 336 00:18:22,936 --> 00:18:24,646 I'm like, you go here right now. 337 00:18:24,646 --> 00:18:25,896 And they'll be like, yes ma 'am. 338 00:18:25,896 --> 00:18:27,226 And they won't move. 339 00:18:27,226 --> 00:18:29,332 And it's, it's that mom voice. 340 00:18:29,332 --> 00:18:33,272 because it's still nice like I'm not mad at you but you have to listen otherwise 341 00:18:33,272 --> 00:18:38,592 this will not work but now when we lined up those classes it was so many true 342 00:18:38,592 --> 00:18:45,332 novice and knowing that you have to be on stage for that long that is hard that is 343 00:18:45,332 --> 00:18:46,884 hard and unexpected. 344 00:18:46,884 --> 00:18:50,801 too, like, because Josie, you competed in four different classes, right? 345 00:18:50,801 --> 00:18:54,801 I did, yeah, and I didn't think I was, I didn't know what to expect. 346 00:18:54,801 --> 00:18:59,581 So, you know, I didn't know I was gonna be on stage for, it seemed like it was at 347 00:18:59,581 --> 00:19:05,621 least five minutes up there with waiting for, with all the girls, you know, in that 348 00:19:05,621 --> 00:19:07,341 first class. 349 00:19:08,890 --> 00:19:12,710 It easily could have been because each of those girls can take, you know, 15 to 30 350 00:19:12,710 --> 00:19:13,200 seconds. 351 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:17,110 And if they're not, you know, if they're even taking longer to walk, like, and 352 00:19:17,110 --> 00:19:18,240 there's so many of them. 353 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,250 So I think it's like 17, I think, is one of them. 354 00:19:21,250 --> 00:19:24,410 So yeah, that's a long time. 355 00:19:24,410 --> 00:19:27,500 And then they call you back for first call outs, move you around, second call outs, 356 00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:28,309 move you around. 357 00:19:28,309 --> 00:19:29,249 -hmm. 358 00:19:29,249 --> 00:19:31,169 Yeah, they worked us pretty good. 359 00:19:31,169 --> 00:19:34,659 So that's something to remember for next time. 360 00:19:34,659 --> 00:19:38,749 Just be prepared to hold for sure. 361 00:19:38,749 --> 00:19:42,309 But yeah, I competed in four classes. 362 00:19:42,309 --> 00:19:46,129 So I think that would probably be the max that I would want to do. 363 00:19:46,129 --> 00:19:52,049 And I'm sure I think you tell your clients that that's about as many as you'd want 364 00:19:52,049 --> 00:19:53,089 to. 365 00:19:54,069 --> 00:19:54,656 -huh. 366 00:19:54,656 --> 00:19:59,396 like, do them all sign up for six, but I'm like, no girl. 367 00:19:59,396 --> 00:20:04,656 Like I think three or four is the max, but because of your placing, I think you are 368 00:20:04,656 --> 00:20:09,936 no longer eligible for novice or true novice because you did get a first place 369 00:20:09,936 --> 00:20:12,036 at your competition. 370 00:20:12,036 --> 00:20:13,796 So congratulations. 371 00:20:13,796 --> 00:20:14,936 That's amazing. 372 00:20:14,936 --> 00:20:19,016 So now I think that means you're, you'll be able to do 35. 373 00:20:19,016 --> 00:20:23,582 You can do open and then after August, you can do the forties. 374 00:20:23,582 --> 00:20:30,442 And you'll be a 40 shorty like me, because I'm the 40, 40 A class, 40 shorties. 375 00:20:30,442 --> 00:20:35,342 I have to tell you, I'm actually a little mad at Gillian for being a little short 376 00:20:35,342 --> 00:20:39,842 petite person because quick little story, she has these pair of shoes that I really 377 00:20:39,842 --> 00:20:42,062 want and I was like, hey, what are those shoes? 378 00:20:42,062 --> 00:20:43,172 They're kid sizes. 379 00:20:43,172 --> 00:20:45,412 I'm like, okay, that's fine. 380 00:20:45,412 --> 00:20:46,822 I'll buy the adult size. 381 00:20:46,822 --> 00:20:50,702 Not only are the adult size double the price, I can't find them anywhere. 382 00:20:50,702 --> 00:20:52,850 And I'm like, that's not fair. 383 00:20:53,068 --> 00:20:54,482 That's right. 384 00:20:54,482 --> 00:20:55,002 tiny? 385 00:20:55,002 --> 00:20:57,842 And I'm like, five -seven. 386 00:20:59,382 --> 00:21:01,262 I went on a tangent about this. 387 00:21:01,262 --> 00:21:02,382 Yeah. 388 00:21:03,219 --> 00:21:06,539 like 5 '2", but my feet are like normal size. 389 00:21:06,539 --> 00:21:07,579 I guess big. 390 00:21:07,579 --> 00:21:09,599 I don't have child -sized feet. 391 00:21:10,210 --> 00:21:13,820 You save money when you have child -sized feet. 392 00:21:13,820 --> 00:21:15,343 It's ridiculous, Gillian. 393 00:21:15,343 --> 00:21:18,943 like less tax, less tax on kids' shoes as well. 394 00:21:18,943 --> 00:21:21,563 So yeah, I'm a five youth. 395 00:21:21,722 --> 00:21:25,962 I like to always recommend, kind of like you were saying, I do always recommend try 396 00:21:25,962 --> 00:21:30,942 as many classes as you can, but it's kind of just the way I say it because with true 397 00:21:30,942 --> 00:21:37,762 novice, for MPC and IFBB, or MPC, they have this true novice category, which is a 398 00:21:37,762 --> 00:21:43,942 fantastic category because what it's for is for anybody that has never competed in 399 00:21:43,942 --> 00:21:49,222 the MPC before has the ability to only compete in this category one time and one 400 00:21:49,222 --> 00:21:50,042 time only. 401 00:21:50,042 --> 00:21:51,988 After you've stepped on an MPC, 402 00:21:51,988 --> 00:21:55,208 you are no longer a true novice and you can't compete in that category. 403 00:21:55,208 --> 00:21:59,408 After you win after that you you can't compete there but you can do novice and 404 00:21:59,408 --> 00:22:03,368 then from novice if you win your novice class you can't compete in novice anymore 405 00:22:03,368 --> 00:22:08,768 you would only be able to do open and then the masters ages of course but it's I love 406 00:22:08,768 --> 00:22:12,468 that they have it because if you're a novice and you haven't won your novice 407 00:22:12,468 --> 00:22:16,288 class you can still do novice multiple times so you're you'd still be up against 408 00:22:16,288 --> 00:22:21,328 girls that have been on stage multiple times whereas true novice it's everybody's 409 00:22:21,328 --> 00:22:22,032 first. 410 00:22:23,344 --> 00:22:24,684 done it before. 411 00:22:24,684 --> 00:22:26,624 Mm -hmm. 412 00:22:26,684 --> 00:22:28,144 Mm -hmm. 413 00:22:28,232 --> 00:22:33,092 masters and I think it's comforting for competitors who've never competed before 414 00:22:33,092 --> 00:22:38,012 to know that this category exists because in particular like this show, the St. 415 00:22:38,012 --> 00:22:41,292 Louis show is always like a really big show and then you know if you're a 416 00:22:41,292 --> 00:22:45,312 competitor in Texas or in California where they have these big shows that bring out 417 00:22:45,312 --> 00:22:49,132 like national level competitors it might stray some people away from thinking that 418 00:22:49,132 --> 00:22:53,012 they should compete at that particular show but with the true novice category 419 00:22:53,012 --> 00:22:56,512 what that means is you have beginners right in that show and sometimes there's 420 00:22:56,512 --> 00:22:57,077 even pro 421 00:22:57,077 --> 00:23:01,097 shows attached to it, and you can be on stage at that competition and have an even 422 00:23:01,097 --> 00:23:01,877 playing field. 423 00:23:01,877 --> 00:23:02,977 So I think that's great. 424 00:23:02,977 --> 00:23:05,227 I mean, years ago, again, 425 00:23:05,227 --> 00:23:06,597 bikini historian over here. 426 00:23:06,597 --> 00:23:10,607 They used to have like levels of shows and it was like, that's a level one show and 427 00:23:10,607 --> 00:23:11,847 that's a level two show. 428 00:23:11,847 --> 00:23:15,127 And you would have like, you know, if you were a beginner, you would just do that 429 00:23:15,127 --> 00:23:16,717 show and they would be short. 430 00:23:16,717 --> 00:23:18,327 It like wasn't really worth it to have them. 431 00:23:18,327 --> 00:23:19,457 I don't think they made very much money. 432 00:23:19,457 --> 00:23:21,907 It was a lot better to do them condensed like that. 433 00:23:21,907 --> 00:23:26,167 But then there's no reason why if you're ready and you've prepped and you're got 434 00:23:26,167 --> 00:23:29,447 your suit, you are there like do more than one category. 435 00:23:29,447 --> 00:23:33,567 Like don't only stick yourself in that category because I've had before where 436 00:23:33,567 --> 00:23:35,354 I've put a girl in a show and she 437 00:23:35,354 --> 00:23:38,954 like, no, I only want to do novice and true novice and she would have won in the 438 00:23:38,954 --> 00:23:39,434 open. 439 00:23:39,434 --> 00:23:43,614 It was a figure girl actually we had last year and she only did the master's 440 00:23:43,614 --> 00:23:44,044 categories. 441 00:23:44,044 --> 00:23:47,654 She was like very intimidated and just like, no, I don't want to. 442 00:23:47,654 --> 00:23:52,854 And she the girl that was in open that won, she actually beat in the master's 443 00:23:52,854 --> 00:23:53,114 category. 444 00:23:53,114 --> 00:23:55,154 I'm like, you would have won the whole show. 445 00:23:55,154 --> 00:24:00,214 So I always say like, you know, you don't want to do seven categories, but you know, 446 00:24:00,214 --> 00:24:04,774 throw your hat in the ring for a few more and just, you know, the more time on stage 447 00:24:04,774 --> 00:24:05,537 is more. 448 00:24:05,990 --> 00:24:10,330 So I think four is a lot, but also, you know, just, you know, get it out there. 449 00:24:10,330 --> 00:24:14,230 And I could see for you because I watched you very closely and was taking videos of 450 00:24:14,230 --> 00:24:15,210 all of our clients. 451 00:24:15,210 --> 00:24:19,530 But by that third or fourth time you came out on stage, you really had your groove. 452 00:24:19,530 --> 00:24:22,950 Like you'd kind of been, you know, put in first call it a couple of times and you 453 00:24:22,950 --> 00:24:24,040 had a lot more confidence. 454 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,930 So it's kind of nice to have more than like one or two times on stage to be able 455 00:24:27,930 --> 00:24:29,630 to just like, okay, I'm not as nervous anymore. 456 00:24:29,630 --> 00:24:30,870 I know what I'm doing. 457 00:24:30,870 --> 00:24:32,690 I know what it all looks like. 458 00:24:32,690 --> 00:24:35,393 So do you think that it felt more comfortable as the 459 00:24:36,387 --> 00:24:37,207 absolutely. 460 00:24:37,207 --> 00:24:40,467 I mean, the first time up, I was pretty nervous. 461 00:24:40,467 --> 00:24:46,947 I was one of the ones that was trembling, you know, during my solo routine and 462 00:24:46,947 --> 00:24:47,927 everything. 463 00:24:47,927 --> 00:24:52,507 But yeah, the second, third, fourth time I came out, I was like, okay, my nerves are 464 00:24:52,507 --> 00:24:55,587 pretty much, you know, shaken out a lot. 465 00:24:55,587 --> 00:24:58,667 So I liked doing that many. 466 00:24:58,667 --> 00:24:59,851 I will say like, 467 00:24:59,851 --> 00:25:03,721 behind the scenes, it got a little dicey as far as myself. 468 00:25:03,721 --> 00:25:10,651 The expeditors were fantastic, but I couldn't remember which categories I had 469 00:25:10,651 --> 00:25:14,551 signed up for, and I didn't know the order of them. 470 00:25:14,551 --> 00:25:20,491 So when I got backstage from after being on stage, I was like, wait, who are they 471 00:25:20,491 --> 00:25:20,871 calling now? 472 00:25:20,871 --> 00:25:21,941 Who are they lining up? 473 00:25:21,941 --> 00:25:23,171 And I was freaking out. 474 00:25:23,171 --> 00:25:24,281 I'm like, what did I sign up for? 475 00:25:24,281 --> 00:25:25,731 Where's my number? 476 00:25:25,731 --> 00:25:29,522 So I guess that's one thing where I would give advice is like, 477 00:25:29,522 --> 00:25:35,622 just remember what categories you're in, because you've got to look out for 478 00:25:35,622 --> 00:25:36,632 yourself back there. 479 00:25:36,632 --> 00:25:40,902 The expeditors are great, but it's, you know, you got to know when you're getting 480 00:25:40,902 --> 00:25:43,622 called up next so you don't miss it. 481 00:25:43,622 --> 00:25:47,762 And sometimes they're pretty close, you know, where they're, you know, you're, you 482 00:25:47,762 --> 00:25:50,362 come backstage and you're immediately lined up again. 483 00:25:50,362 --> 00:25:55,002 And sometimes you have to wait a little bit, which is fine, but that would be one 484 00:25:55,002 --> 00:25:57,013 piece of advice I would give. 485 00:25:58,092 --> 00:26:00,966 One thing I thought about too with that show. 486 00:26:01,036 --> 00:26:04,676 is like, you know, they had you guys in the pump up area and then you went like 487 00:26:04,676 --> 00:26:07,756 kind of like through the atrium and then to the backstage area. 488 00:26:07,756 --> 00:26:09,836 And then once you were there, you couldn't leave. 489 00:26:09,836 --> 00:26:15,356 Like, it's OK to take like a water, your phone, your rice cake, your pump up bands. 490 00:26:15,356 --> 00:26:17,856 Like people were just walking like empty handed. 491 00:26:17,856 --> 00:26:21,036 And like me and Kate were like running back and forth with water bottles and 492 00:26:21,036 --> 00:26:24,256 phones and stuff just to get you guys like stuff to pump up because you were back 493 00:26:24,256 --> 00:26:25,066 there for a while. 494 00:26:25,066 --> 00:26:29,156 And I know that in other shows, competitors will like leave that pump up 495 00:26:29,156 --> 00:26:31,361 area to go grab something because they need 496 00:26:31,361 --> 00:26:33,121 or something and they miss their class. 497 00:26:33,121 --> 00:26:37,581 So I think like just staying close by the expeditors, but also being prepared, like 498 00:26:37,581 --> 00:26:39,101 just take a couple things back there. 499 00:26:39,101 --> 00:26:41,899 It's totally fine to have that back there if you need it. 500 00:26:41,899 --> 00:26:45,839 and I didn't realize that with the setup of the show either. 501 00:26:45,839 --> 00:26:47,319 Yeah. 502 00:26:48,570 --> 00:26:52,330 Every show will be set up different but usually like the expeditors will try to be 503 00:26:52,330 --> 00:26:53,690 like, yeah You can do that. 504 00:26:53,690 --> 00:26:58,970 You can you can bring this or that's why we always like there's always for the NPC 505 00:26:58,970 --> 00:27:04,010 Midwest show We will hover around like that is our job to hover and that way 506 00:27:04,010 --> 00:27:07,670 anybody and everybody can ask us questions of like what to do Where to go what to 507 00:27:07,670 --> 00:27:12,150 bring and I will tell you the number one thing we will always say is do not leave 508 00:27:12,150 --> 00:27:19,017 this area Do not I don't care if the show starts and you are the last 509 00:27:19,096 --> 00:27:21,736 the last category of the entire show. 510 00:27:21,736 --> 00:27:22,596 Don't leave. 511 00:27:22,596 --> 00:27:23,336 Don't leave. 512 00:27:23,336 --> 00:27:25,196 Don't go to your hotel room. 513 00:27:25,196 --> 00:27:26,936 Just hang out here. 514 00:27:26,936 --> 00:27:29,196 Watch a show on your phone. 515 00:27:29,496 --> 00:27:31,376 Like, don't. 516 00:27:31,376 --> 00:27:34,182 But, it happens. 517 00:27:34,182 --> 00:27:37,349 like surprising thing about Show Day, Josie? 518 00:27:41,469 --> 00:27:50,219 You know, probably, it was just a lot of, it was a lot of rushing around kind of, 519 00:27:50,219 --> 00:27:53,109 and then, you know, it was a lot of waiting as well. 520 00:27:53,109 --> 00:27:56,999 So I wasn't sure how the show was necessarily set up. 521 00:27:56,999 --> 00:28:01,729 I thought I'd have a little bit more downtime, you know, between the, the 522 00:28:01,729 --> 00:28:04,149 morning show and the evening show. 523 00:28:04,409 --> 00:28:09,028 so that was surprising when I could, you know, just basically have time to go eat. 524 00:28:09,028 --> 00:28:12,888 rest for a couple minutes and then I was, you know, before I knew it I was touching 525 00:28:12,888 --> 00:28:17,108 up my hair and makeup and headed back downstairs. 526 00:28:17,148 --> 00:28:25,655 So yeah, I'd say as quick as the day went by I would say that was pretty surprising. 527 00:28:27,595 --> 00:28:30,874 from like an early hair and makeup time to like. 528 00:28:30,900 --> 00:28:31,803 Yeah. 529 00:28:32,396 --> 00:28:35,356 Well, you were there super late, too, because you were still there and I was 530 00:28:35,356 --> 00:28:38,856 like still packing up everything because your husband was in like the last 531 00:28:38,856 --> 00:28:40,016 category. 532 00:28:40,016 --> 00:28:44,736 So Bikini was like long done and he was still on stage. 533 00:28:44,736 --> 00:28:48,956 But worth it to stick around and get those photos. 534 00:28:49,196 --> 00:28:53,636 Yeah, no, it was totally worth it because I mean. 535 00:28:54,443 --> 00:28:58,723 Yeah, I'm sure your kids are like, wow, mom and dad are super hot. 536 00:28:58,723 --> 00:29:00,583 Like those pictures of you guys. 537 00:29:00,583 --> 00:29:03,523 And I actually am going to include, I'm going to put a picture of the two of you 538 00:29:03,523 --> 00:29:07,263 on the thumbnail for this episode, because like it's a really good picture of you 539 00:29:07,263 --> 00:29:10,193 guys, like all tanned up and you know, it's awesome. 540 00:29:10,193 --> 00:29:11,243 It's such an accomplishment. 541 00:29:11,243 --> 00:29:15,523 And I think people who've never done this or that don't have a desire to do this 542 00:29:15,523 --> 00:29:18,103 might think that we do this for vanity and that's not it. 543 00:29:18,103 --> 00:29:22,703 That would not be enough to motivate us to do the things that we do to get on stage. 544 00:29:22,703 --> 00:29:24,896 But it's just such a huge accomplishment. 545 00:29:24,969 --> 00:29:30,369 you know people with a family to be able to juggle it all and make those sacrifices 546 00:29:30,369 --> 00:29:34,729 so you know congratulations to you this was not only like a huge accomplishment 547 00:29:34,729 --> 00:29:39,229 but also to like get the placing that you did because you took first in was it your 548 00:29:39,229 --> 00:29:47,723 35 a 35 novice right yeah which is awesome I always tell like 549 00:29:47,723 --> 00:29:49,383 First time competitors. 550 00:29:49,383 --> 00:29:51,473 Yeah, yeah, you got a first and a second. 551 00:29:51,473 --> 00:29:54,683 You placed in three of your categories, right? 552 00:29:55,643 --> 00:29:57,797 Yeah, so that's awesome. 553 00:29:57,797 --> 00:30:01,597 my other one, but you know, we won't talk about that one. 554 00:30:01,597 --> 00:30:03,497 Right. 555 00:30:03,497 --> 00:30:04,447 Right. 556 00:30:04,447 --> 00:30:05,407 but that's amazing. 557 00:30:05,407 --> 00:30:07,387 And you know, that's not common. 558 00:30:07,387 --> 00:30:11,507 Like I tell my new clients all the time, like, you know, we don't, we're not, we 559 00:30:11,507 --> 00:30:12,547 can't predict a placing. 560 00:30:12,547 --> 00:30:15,707 If you place it your first show, it's like, you know, unprecedented. 561 00:30:15,707 --> 00:30:16,677 It doesn't always happen. 562 00:30:16,677 --> 00:30:20,487 So, you know, to not only, you know, place and take them all that hardware, but also 563 00:30:20,487 --> 00:30:23,527 to get first is like a really bright start for you. 564 00:30:23,527 --> 00:30:24,896 So congratulations. 565 00:30:24,896 --> 00:30:25,546 Thank you. 566 00:30:25,546 --> 00:30:28,216 No, I was definitely super excited. 567 00:30:28,316 --> 00:30:33,456 You know, there's a lot of great girls, you know, in the whole thing. 568 00:30:33,456 --> 00:30:39,356 And, you know, I competed against a lot of other true novices in their first time. 569 00:30:39,356 --> 00:30:41,696 So that was, it was fun. 570 00:30:41,836 --> 00:30:45,496 And yeah, no, I just had, I had a really good time. 571 00:30:45,496 --> 00:30:47,003 Great experience. 572 00:30:47,146 --> 00:30:48,176 So. 573 00:30:48,698 --> 00:30:55,078 question Josie because something that gets kind of brought up almost every single new 574 00:30:55,078 --> 00:31:00,758 athlete we have I've noticed this so when you got your bikini when you got your 575 00:31:00,758 --> 00:31:07,478 bikini and it got to you when you got your bikini I'm sure you were excited you were 576 00:31:07,478 --> 00:31:11,198 really happy when you know you got that package in the mail and you opened it what 577 00:31:11,198 --> 00:31:14,479 was your first reaction how did you feel? 578 00:31:14,479 --> 00:31:17,519 I have a video of it, so I should share that with you sometime. 579 00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:23,879 But yeah, my husband videotaped me, but I just, I just, my jaw dropped and I was 580 00:31:23,879 --> 00:31:27,359 like, my gosh, it's so beautiful. 581 00:31:27,359 --> 00:31:30,559 Like the color was perfect. 582 00:31:30,579 --> 00:31:34,999 You know, it's hard to tell from a little sample they send you and then, you know, 583 00:31:34,999 --> 00:31:38,999 you know, picking your, your crystals and everything that go on it, what it is 584 00:31:38,999 --> 00:31:40,249 actually going to turn out like. 585 00:31:40,249 --> 00:31:43,583 And I was just like, wow, the color was just. 586 00:31:43,583 --> 00:31:44,463 perfect for me. 587 00:31:44,463 --> 00:31:46,163 It's exactly what I wanted. 588 00:31:46,163 --> 00:31:49,263 And I know you guys work with toxic angels too. 589 00:31:49,263 --> 00:31:53,053 So that's who did my suit and I was super, super happy. 590 00:31:53,053 --> 00:31:55,621 Yeah, it was, it's beautiful. 591 00:31:56,970 --> 00:31:59,418 Did you think like, wow, this thing is really tiny? 592 00:31:59,418 --> 00:32:00,671 Hahaha. 593 00:32:00,671 --> 00:32:01,341 yeah. 594 00:32:01,341 --> 00:32:07,181 The top fit like a glove and then the bottoms were a little tight. 595 00:32:07,181 --> 00:32:12,421 I was thinking, okay, well maybe during peak week this will fit perfect. 596 00:32:12,461 --> 00:32:17,381 And yeah, and of course I send pictures to my parents and my dad's like, that could 597 00:32:17,381 --> 00:32:19,461 use a little bit more fabric. 598 00:32:19,461 --> 00:32:24,021 But it was supportive nonetheless. 599 00:32:24,141 --> 00:32:27,581 But no, it was definitely small. 600 00:32:27,581 --> 00:32:28,276 So. 601 00:32:28,874 --> 00:32:29,624 That's awesome. 602 00:32:29,624 --> 00:32:34,354 What was the reaction of like your coworkers and friends and other people 603 00:32:34,354 --> 00:32:36,414 that follow your journey? 604 00:32:36,731 --> 00:32:40,281 Well, first of all, with the suit, my coworkers like helped me a whole lot. 605 00:32:40,281 --> 00:32:44,611 Like I even had ex coworkers coming in like the day that I happened to have my 606 00:32:44,611 --> 00:32:48,391 little samples with me at work and like everybody came in, we were looking at it 607 00:32:48,391 --> 00:32:51,321 under lights and we were, you know, analyzing it. 608 00:32:51,321 --> 00:32:54,371 And so everybody had their little votes and everything. 609 00:32:54,571 --> 00:32:57,041 So everybody at work loves food. 610 00:32:57,041 --> 00:33:01,331 So it's a little bit difficult for them to wrap their head around me kind of being 611 00:33:01,331 --> 00:33:06,011 very, you know, selective and everything being regimented and everything. 612 00:33:06,011 --> 00:33:09,571 But yeah, they're like, I can't I can't believe you do this. 613 00:33:09,571 --> 00:33:10,711 I don't know how you do it. 614 00:33:10,711 --> 00:33:12,991 And I'm like, it's just it's what I want to do. 615 00:33:12,991 --> 00:33:16,011 And I have a goal and I know what I have to do to make that goal. 616 00:33:16,011 --> 00:33:19,711 And it's not eat that candy, not eat that cake. 617 00:33:19,711 --> 00:33:25,911 So, you know, but yeah, family, friends have all been super supportive. 618 00:33:25,911 --> 00:33:29,331 And, you know, I haven't seen a whole lot of we kind of hibernated during the 619 00:33:29,331 --> 00:33:30,011 winter. 620 00:33:30,011 --> 00:33:34,471 It was kind of a good time just to, you know, focus on our prep and our gym going 621 00:33:34,471 --> 00:33:35,994 and resting and. 622 00:33:35,994 --> 00:33:40,714 You know, of course we don't drink and we're not going out, so there was no, you 623 00:33:40,714 --> 00:33:43,054 know, parties and stuff like that. 624 00:33:43,054 --> 00:33:48,214 So, you know, we didn't see a whole lot of everybody over the winter. 625 00:33:48,414 --> 00:33:52,794 So maybe this summer we'll try to, you know, get out more, do some more social 626 00:33:52,794 --> 00:33:57,014 stuff while we're kind of just in a building session. 627 00:33:57,014 --> 00:33:57,694 So. 628 00:33:58,091 --> 00:34:00,634 Yeah, yeah, that's awesome. 629 00:34:00,634 --> 00:34:01,494 supported you. 630 00:34:01,494 --> 00:34:02,594 That's really cool. 631 00:34:02,594 --> 00:34:05,674 Like even if they don't do it, they don't understand it, but they're like, it makes 632 00:34:05,674 --> 00:34:06,274 you happy. 633 00:34:06,274 --> 00:34:07,134 So they're there for you. 634 00:34:07,134 --> 00:34:09,804 And that's really, that's awesome you had that support around you. 635 00:34:09,804 --> 00:34:12,410 And that's fun they picked the suit with you. 636 00:34:12,410 --> 00:34:13,360 I know, right? 637 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,850 And then they also came at, you know, on show day. 638 00:34:16,850 --> 00:34:17,980 A few of them did. 639 00:34:17,980 --> 00:34:19,690 So that was super cool. 640 00:34:19,690 --> 00:34:21,990 The ones that could get, you know, off work that day. 641 00:34:21,990 --> 00:34:26,190 But yeah, it was, they're like, we're so proud of you. 642 00:34:26,190 --> 00:34:31,210 And it felt really good to have have everybody in my corner and showing up for 643 00:34:31,210 --> 00:34:31,921 me. 644 00:34:33,642 --> 00:34:34,622 Awesome. 645 00:34:34,622 --> 00:34:36,022 Yeah, that means a lot. 646 00:34:36,022 --> 00:34:39,122 You know, it's all positive, which is good. 647 00:34:39,682 --> 00:34:40,479 Yeah. 648 00:34:40,479 --> 00:34:47,249 I mean, I can't, I can't say that there's been any real negative, you know, energy 649 00:34:47,249 --> 00:34:48,179 around it. 650 00:34:48,179 --> 00:34:53,549 So, and if there was then, you know, I was oblivious to it or, you know, you can't 651 00:34:53,549 --> 00:34:56,369 care about what everybody else is doing. 652 00:34:56,369 --> 00:35:02,929 So, it's something that both, you know, my husband and I wanted to do and we're, we 653 00:35:02,929 --> 00:35:07,777 had our goal set and we were just like all about making it happen. 654 00:35:09,482 --> 00:35:12,422 Yeah, that's so awesome. 655 00:35:12,422 --> 00:35:16,402 so with your husband, what do you think throughout the whole prep that you guys 656 00:35:16,402 --> 00:35:22,102 did together, what do you feel was probably the hardest, like the most, the 657 00:35:22,102 --> 00:35:27,405 hardest thing you guys struggled with as new athletes? 658 00:35:27,405 --> 00:35:34,405 as new athletes, you know, I guess I would probably just say like, just time 659 00:35:34,405 --> 00:35:41,325 management, you know, having a family and everything, you know, just kind of the, 660 00:35:41,325 --> 00:35:47,225 the balancing of all that was, was pretty hard, but, you know, getting up early 661 00:35:47,225 --> 00:35:52,805 mornings was pretty tough, you know, to start with, but we, we became morning 662 00:35:52,805 --> 00:35:54,485 people, which helped. 663 00:35:55,130 --> 00:36:01,030 But those are the best kinds of people I'm just saying I'm just saying the morning 664 00:36:01,030 --> 00:36:02,777 people are the best people 665 00:36:02,777 --> 00:36:05,070 Yeah, yeah, no, I... 666 00:36:05,070 --> 00:36:09,710 you go through, like, you have to like have like, you know, those like, shit 667 00:36:09,710 --> 00:36:13,870 moments and like things are chaotic and just to learn and build new skills. 668 00:36:13,870 --> 00:36:18,510 Because I feel like for me, like over the years, it's gotten easier to juggle it. 669 00:36:18,510 --> 00:36:22,090 I think like, if I were to just start now, I think I'd feel really overwhelmed. 670 00:36:22,090 --> 00:36:27,270 But because I've been doing it all this time, you know, it's it's just a skill 671 00:36:27,270 --> 00:36:28,040 like that you learn. 672 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,922 And women are like just kick ass. 673 00:36:30,922 --> 00:36:35,642 humans that can figure it out and troubleshoot and so you know that's that's 674 00:36:35,642 --> 00:36:39,394 what you did right you just roll with it and learn as you go. 675 00:36:39,945 --> 00:36:43,665 second nature eventually to do it all. 676 00:36:44,185 --> 00:36:49,695 But yeah, you've had a lot of experience, so that's awesome. 677 00:36:51,546 --> 00:36:54,026 bikini dinosaur over there. 678 00:36:55,346 --> 00:37:00,446 I'm totally gonna get you like a dinosaur necklace with like a dinosaur wearing a 679 00:37:00,446 --> 00:37:03,314 bikini or something like... 680 00:37:03,314 --> 00:37:05,098 gosh, that's so funny. 681 00:37:05,098 --> 00:37:06,478 It is crazy. 682 00:37:06,478 --> 00:37:13,278 But but yeah, well, it was just awesome to get that experience from you and to share 683 00:37:13,278 --> 00:37:15,738 kind of like all the little tips and tricks. 684 00:37:15,738 --> 00:37:19,778 And so what we always like to ask people and I'll ask you this as well is what 685 00:37:19,778 --> 00:37:24,838 would be your piece of advice for somebody who is a mama that is a master's 686 00:37:24,838 --> 00:37:27,398 competitor that is like looking to compete? 687 00:37:27,398 --> 00:37:31,458 Like what would you tell them about going after that goal? 688 00:37:31,641 --> 00:37:32,851 I'd say just do it. 689 00:37:32,851 --> 00:37:37,121 I mean, I don't think there's any better time than now. 690 00:37:37,121 --> 00:37:41,501 I mean, there's always going to be some reason not to, and you're always going to 691 00:37:41,501 --> 00:37:42,401 be busy. 692 00:37:42,401 --> 00:37:44,661 It's kind of like deciding to have a kid. 693 00:37:44,661 --> 00:37:46,031 There's no good time. 694 00:37:46,031 --> 00:37:54,021 You just do it, and you take it a day at a time, and just make sure you're prepared. 695 00:37:54,961 --> 00:37:57,821 Yeah, I would just go after it. 696 00:37:58,161 --> 00:38:01,645 Everybody has it within them, I think, to do this. 697 00:38:02,253 --> 00:38:09,483 and I think you develop to, you know, you become stronger mentally because of it, 698 00:38:09,483 --> 00:38:13,393 which, you know, is a skill that translates to other things in life, just 699 00:38:13,393 --> 00:38:16,867 beyond, you know, the sport. 700 00:38:19,497 --> 00:38:21,497 Great, I love that. 701 00:38:21,497 --> 00:38:24,337 Yeah, awesome. 702 00:38:24,410 --> 00:38:26,720 never gonna be a perfect time. 703 00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:28,510 It's just, you gotta do it. 704 00:38:29,050 --> 00:38:30,533 So, yeah. 705 00:38:30,533 --> 00:38:30,773 off. 706 00:38:30,773 --> 00:38:32,209 Might as well just jump in. 707 00:38:32,209 --> 00:38:33,809 hours in the day. 708 00:38:33,809 --> 00:38:38,809 You just gotta get up early and if it's something you truly want, then you're 709 00:38:38,809 --> 00:38:40,489 gonna make it happen. 710 00:38:41,513 --> 00:38:43,993 Yeah, exactly. 711 00:38:44,538 --> 00:38:47,798 Well thank you so much for joining us today and giving us some insight because 712 00:38:47,798 --> 00:38:51,238 like we've kind of seen, you know, Gillian and I have been doing this for a little 713 00:38:51,238 --> 00:38:51,978 bit now. 714 00:38:51,978 --> 00:38:55,638 So it's really nice to be able to kind of hear your perspective and be able to share 715 00:38:55,638 --> 00:39:00,058 it with our listeners so you know they can relate to you and we'll have all of your 716 00:39:00,058 --> 00:39:03,918 information in the show notes so if you they'll be able to reach it. 717 00:39:03,918 --> 00:39:04,797 Yeah. 718 00:39:04,797 --> 00:39:07,817 on your fitness journey. 719 00:39:07,817 --> 00:39:09,887 And we can't wait to see you on stage again. 720 00:39:09,887 --> 00:39:13,637 And congratulations on an amazing prep, an amazing first show. 721 00:39:13,637 --> 00:39:15,993 And we're just excited to see what you do next. 722 00:39:15,993 --> 00:39:18,093 Aw, thank you guys so much for having me. 723 00:39:18,093 --> 00:39:20,913 This has been really fun and I'm honored to be on. 724 00:39:20,913 --> 00:39:21,809 Appreciate it. 725 00:39:23,578 --> 00:39:24,238 Absolutely. 726 00:39:24,238 --> 00:39:25,528 Well thank you guys for listening. 727 00:39:25,528 --> 00:39:27,318 We'll see you next time. 728 00:39:27,817 --> 00:39:31,219 Bye everyone, thanks for tuning in.