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Welcome to the Soul Touched by Dogs
Podcast, the show for dog lovers who

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see dogs not as toys or tools, but
wise souls worth our respect and care.

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I'm an Herrmann, and I'm your host.

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I talk to poor some humans, people who
do great work for dogs and their people.

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So come and join us for
today's conversation.

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Anke: Hello and welcome, Nicole.

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I'm very happy to have you here.

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Nicole: Very happy to be here.

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Thank you for the invitation, Anke.

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Anke: My pleasure.

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And we have a delightful topic today.

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So before we dive in, let people know
where in this lovely world you are

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and what's your business with dogs?

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Nicole: Absolutely.

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Um, so I am the Vice President
of Growth and Strategy for

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George Street Photo and Video.

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Personally, I love dogs.

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I have two myself and my
fur babies, as I call them.

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And, um, but at the photography
company, we are working with,

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uh, mostly wedding couples.

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And we are always working
with them with dogs.

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animals.

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You know, many people, they're
part of the family, like my

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dogs are part of my family.

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And so people are bringing them
to their big day or as part

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of their engagement session.

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And so we are constantly working with
our photographers and with their dogs

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to make sure that all of the couples
have everything that they need.

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Anke: I love that.

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I just love that.

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And you know, when, when I think of
weddings with dogs or, you know, animals,

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but we're talking about dogs here.

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When I think of weddings and wedding
photos with, with, with dogs, I always

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think of the funny ones where, you know,
the dog like photo bombs or, or steps

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on the dress or, you know, it's funny.

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So, so what is something that people,
because I mean if you love your

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dog, obviously you want the dog
to be part of the wedding, right?

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So what is something that, you
know, you wish people knew?

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What is something that people kind
of often maybe don't consider?

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Nicole: Well, there are two things, Anke.

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And the first thing is making
sure you know your dog.

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You know, so you had mentioned
about the photobombs.

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Some of the very best photos are
when the dog takes this picture.

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The show, you know, they are there, they
are doing what they, what they want.

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We've seen where, you know, all of a
sudden in the middle of the vows that,

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you know, the, the dog decides, alright,
I'm gonna be mom and dad during the Vs.

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And they'll jump on top.

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And so that's amazing shot and
has everyone, you know, fully

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with themselves and laughter.

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And so it has some of the,
most of, the, most of the.

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I'm sorry, I don't know
if you can cut that out.

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Um, most of the, um, it has, you
know, seeing all the dogs, you know,

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jump up with their parents and what
it really helps to do is to make sure

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that, you know, they're capturing
the true essence of the couple

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and the dog and the relationship.

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Or we'll have, some of my favorite photos
are when the dog actually sits on the

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dresser, the veil, and just decides
that they're going to sit there the

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entire, you know, the entire ceremony.

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We have it where the dog is supposed to
be walking down the aisle but decides

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to take a detour, you know, so those
are some of the very best moments.

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So just remembering your dog is the dog
and, you know, as much as they're part

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of the family, they may take the show.

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The second piece is that, um, Really
making sure that, you know, again,

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with the knowing your dog, your dog
may, may not do well with cameras,

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may not do well with a large audience.

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So most importantly, making
sure that you're doing something

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that's workable for your dog.

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And with that, um, you know, I
have some, you know, very specific

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recommendations, something that I
personally had to make that decision

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with when I got buried as well.

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And so, you know, with, with that,
Keeping in mind that if your dog

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doesn't do well with groups, you
might have to find an alternative

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to have them be part of the wedding.

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That might mean engagement
session, might have a pre session.

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It could also be, you know, maybe
the day before the wedding where

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you take some photos with your
dog so that you can capture, you

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know, capture your dog with you.

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It could also be where maybe
you have photos of your dog

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as part of, you know, of that.

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We've seen that in lieu of, um,
party favors where somebody might do

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a donation on behalf of their dog.

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So maybe they do it to a
pet charity of their choice.

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And instead of, you know, giving
the caramelized apples at the

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end of the day, you know, they've
done a contribution instead.

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So there are many ways to really
bring in your pet, whether they

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can be there physically or not.

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Anke: I love that.

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I think that opens up a whole new, you
know, because, you know, I don't know,

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like I, I host a lot of like classes and
summits and quite often when I see what

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people are worried about, the way people
are asking, a lot of it is like, you

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know, my dog's anxious, my dog's reactive.

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So, you know, like dragging them to a
big party is probably not the best way.

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And I love like to almost like
get away from like looking

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at the dog as part of it.

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As a way of like, how can we
include the dog, and it doesn't

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necessarily mean physical presence.

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Nicole: Exactly.

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I love

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Anke: that.

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Nicole: So, with my personal story,
I had a hundred pound Roddy, and

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she was sweet as sweet as can be.

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She, her name was Estelle, and
Estelle did whatever she wanted to do.

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Estelle was a terrified, terrified camera.

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And so I knew I really wanted her to be
part of the wedding, but I knew that I

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had to make some very specific decisions.

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So I actually had a family
friend stay with Estelle.

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So Estelle could be at the site and,
but you know, no cameras around.

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I made sure that I had her with me, um,
you know, while I was getting ready.

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And then what, what we do is anytime
we were going to bring out the

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cameras, we would move her aside.

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Um, and then during this, uh, during
the reception, What we did was

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we had, um, we asked what all the
photographers while they were eating

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to please keep their cameras down.

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And so she made a guest appearance and I,
and I made sure like ahead of it, I had

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somebody announce like, please no cameras
because she would panic and take off.

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That was how we terrified cameras.

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And so she came in, she had her cute
little bow that matched my dress and

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she came in, we did a loop around.

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She said hi to the people,
you know, she was fond of and

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then she exited, but that was.

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That was, you know, how I was able
to bring her in, knowing that it

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was either a stealth or having my,
you know, my wedding photograph.

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And so those are decisions you
have to make, because if the dog

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isn't going to feel comfortable,
why put them under that pressure?

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Anke: Yeah, yeah.

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I mean, I'm totally fascinated
by the idea of like, do you kind

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of have an idea of what about the
camera would be so scary for the dog

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Nicole: I think that she, I don't
know exactly, to be honest with you.

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I adopted her when she was six, so I
think that it was something ahead of,

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you know, her being part of my life.

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But, um, you know, I know that
there was one time that there

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was a flash and that scared her.

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So I don't know, every time she
saw the camera, maybe she, you

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know, related it to a flash.

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Anke: Yeah, that, that,
that would make sense.

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I mean, what, what's the
funniest story like you've seen?

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Like, you know, I don't know,
like I've sort of seen some funny

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videos, but, but what's the funniest
thing that you've witnessed?

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Or like, what are the photographers
that you're working with?

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Like, what's the funniest thing?

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Nicole: One of the fun, I mean, there
are many, many funny ones, but one of

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the funniest was when, um, the, um,
the, you know, so the dog, instead of,

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like, walking slowly down the aisle,
decided to run, you know, so the,

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and there was a little child holding it,
so the, the child is also running with

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the dog, you know, so the two of them
are pretty much just, you know, beelining

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for, you know, for the, for the groom,
in this case, and so, Um, you know, just

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hurried and then, you know, and then the
whole time it was just, the doc just kept

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You know, I don't want to say acting up,
it was just simply being them, you know,

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and so, you know, there was, you know,
the running and then, you know, sitting

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on the dress and then, you know, jumping
up and just not, you know, walking back

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down the aisle ahead of the professional.

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So, you know, they really, you know,
stole the show, but it was really

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funny and the couple was so delighted,
you know, delighted about it.

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So, just having everyone, you know,
laughing and You know, you know,

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engaged with, you know, with the
dog, but it was, it was really quite

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funny to see the whole thing happen.

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It breaks the ice for sure, right?

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And everyone

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Anke: was light hearted about it.

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I mean, is this something,
have you had people that would

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say, well, let me practice?

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With the dog, like, is that a thing?

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Nicole: Well, they always, you know, we
always recommend that, you know, ahead

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of the, ahead of the day that they do do
a rehearsal, a rehearsal of some sort.

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Um, but you never know what's
going to happen in the moment.

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Anke: I'm always too worried if, like,
if I'm sort of thinking of, like, my

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lair, you've got to pour, you've peed on.

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Nicole: I haven't seen that.

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And that, but that is a good point
Anke, you probably want to make sure

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the dog relieves themselves ahead
of, you know, of the party, you know.

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Anke: Leo certainly would have
like stolen food off the table

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like that, especially when, when,
like, he was, Like, that's him.

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And he would have, he would have,
like, he was small, right, but he would

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basically go and he'd get away with it
because he was, like, he was the master

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of stealing food when nobody is watching.

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So, like, he, he would, he,
he knew how to not get caught.

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I guess, you know, when I found
him, he'd spent some time in the

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street, so he figured that one out.

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So he would jump on the chair,
which gave him access to the table.

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And then he'd give you the innocent
face when he's like, well, I'm small.

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Like I can't possibly snip off the table.

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I, he probably would have wiped out.

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Nicole: I haven't seen a dog steal
the cake, but that's, I could, I

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could potentially see that happening.

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You probably want to be mindful
of just kind of watching.

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When the cake comes out, for sure.

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Anke: Oh, that's funny.

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So do sometimes people do
special shoots with the dog?

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Nicole: Yeah, we, we highly recommend it.

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One of the most popular and great ways
to include the dog in a, if you do

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want them to be part of the day or not,
you know, just kind of depending is to

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have them be part of your engagement
photos, so your save the date photos.

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Like, you know, there are so
many wonderful props, like my

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humans are getting married.

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Or, or, you know, she was mine
first or she said yes, or he,

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you know, and he said yes.

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So having, um, it's a really fun way to,
you know, to have that be part of the

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introduction of your, of your, you know,
wedding day so that everyone knows and

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making sure that it's part of the family.

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And we've even seen where a common
pose is that the couple will be

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sitting in the, in the background and
the dogs will be in the foreground.

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And so the focus is more on
the dogs and their signs.

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And then the humans are in the background,
you know, so it's just, it's really cute.

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It depends on how you want it,
but we recommend, um, doing that.

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You can also do a pre session,
like the day before your wedding,

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maybe on the rehearsal day.

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Or, you know, post wedding as well, um,
because, you know, there are just many

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ways that you can bring it in, but I
do think that, you know, letting your

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dog have, have the dog's personality,
your personality being there and being,

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allowing the family as a unit to be
seen in the, in the photos is such,

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such a wonderful idea, whether it's
the wedding day, pre or post wedding.

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Anke: Yeah, I love that.

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So, is there something specific, like,
like the photographers, like, do they

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need some sort of special training or
does somebody, you know, like, what is

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it that they will need in order to pull
this off as opposed to a normal wedding?

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I'm thinking, you know, like reining
in puppies and, like, speaking of

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the wedding guests, it's probably
already a chunky job, right?

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But so, What's an additional,
you know, like, what does

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it mean for a photographer?

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Because I would imagine, I don't know,
like, that's, that's, is that a thing?

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Like, if, if somebody goes to a
photographer, like, hey, I want wedding

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photos, will there be some who go,
no, no, no, I don't do dog stuff?

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Or like, is this something that
every photographer just kind of does?

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Or like, what's, what's
your experience there?

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Nicole: There are some photographers,
you know, where they don't

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feel comfortable with dogs.

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And so, um, you know, in the case of
our business, we just make sure that.

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That is known, and we make sure
that the couple knows that.

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But most, most of our photographers, and
most photographers I know personally,

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are happy to capture the dogs, and
I think it's more about just kind

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of really being able to have those
candid, photojournalistic moments of

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capturing what's so, because that's
what you're going to get with your pet.

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Like, your, your pet may never
sit and look at the camera.

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That may never happen, you know?

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But it's more about two with a couple
bringing things that work for the dog.

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So maybe the dog has a favorite treat
that will help the photographer out.

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There might be toys that will
help with the dog, you know,

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being engaged in the moment.

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So the, many of our photographers
will actually use those or suggest to

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the couple ahead of time, make sure
you're bringing some of the favorites,

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make sure that you have, we always
recommend having a handler that's

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available too, because the photographer
is trying to take the photos, but

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you have somebody else who's holding.

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You know, holding the toy and speaking it.

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You always

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Anke: see that, yeah.

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On Instagram sometimes, you know,
there's like Instagram accounts where

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photographers, where they take you
know, like, new photos for the shelter,

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you know, for the adoption photos, and
there's always the photographer and

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somebody else is holding the treat, right?

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Nicole: Yes, exactly.

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Because it's, you know, it's
impossible to do all, all things.

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So really having someone there to
help support, you know, family friend

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or a, you know, maybe you have a
pet sitter or pet, a dog walker.

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So having someone there to
help support, but treats, toys.

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Bones What?

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Whatever, whatever the dog, again, knowing
your dog, what, what does your dog like?

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What is gonna help support your dog
to be successful at the photo shoot?

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Along with, along with you.

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But what we found mostly is that
people seem to be even more relaxed

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when their pet is with them.

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You know, because, you know, people
get shy in front of the camera.

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So when you have a pet, people laugh.

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People are enjoying, there's a calmness
or, or maybe not, but it's, you know,

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all things and, uh, really capture
some wonderful, wonderful shots.

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Anke: Yeah, I can totally see that,
you know, because I think your mind's

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also a little bit off your own, like,
you know, you kind of look at what

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the dog does and whether the dog's
okay and whether the dog, you know,

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to make sure the dog isn't doing what
they're not supposed to and whatever.

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So I think it just takes
your mind off, you know.

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Nicole: Exactly, yeah, it helps to relieve
the stress and then also to When you

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have somebody who's there to help, you
know, handle the dog, then you also have,

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you're able to get shots of the two, you
know, the two of you, plus the three or

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four or five of you, depending on how
many, uh, dogs you have at one time.

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But this allows for
everything to go smoothly.

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So that's, that's another
recommendation I have.

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And then, you know, if your, if
your dog is also, you know, just

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afraid in general too, you may
have, have some of those shots, but.

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You know, having those in the distance
with the photographers in a distance.

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So you can still incorporate your,
you know, your pet and as part of

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your family, but it could just be done
in a way that works for all of you.

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Anke: Yeah.

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I mean, you were just saying like
one dog, like, have you ever had it?

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Like, you know, wedding, like with
more, I mean, I have more than one

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dog, so that would be hilarious.

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Yeah.

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Nicole: Yeah.

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I mean, we, we haven't really seen
it with three or four dogs, you know,

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and we've had, we've had really fun
photos from the distance where the,

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The couple is actually walking the dog,
but the dog actually starts to run.

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This is during an engagement session.

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And so you see the couple kind of, you
know, you know, jotting down, but it's

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really, it's a really Fun photo, you
know, it really showcases the family.

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And, um, and so again, those
are some of the best shots, is

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when your dog takes the stage.

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I love

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Anke: it, I love it, you know,
because at the end of the day that's

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like just real life and, you know.

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Nicole: It's so true, right?

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It just showcases what, you
know, the real, the real life

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Anke: moments.

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I love it.

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I love it.

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So where can people go and, um, you
know, find a photographer that does a

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good job with the dog and find out about
you and, you know, your company or work?

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Where, where can people go?

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And maybe stalk you on Instagram to

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Nicole: get

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Anke: a good laugh.

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Nicole: Well, we love that.

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Um, so it's georgetreetphoto.

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com is our website.

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And then our Instagram handle
is at georgetreetphoto.

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Anke: Cool.

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So obviously it's kind of, it's
going to be in the show notes

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and above or below here directly.

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So easy to find.

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Nicole: Wonderful.

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And we do have a lot of articles
about, you know, with bringing

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your dog to your photo shoot.

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So checking out our blog is a great way.

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And also on our Instagram.

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Anke: Love that.

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Love that.

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Thank you so much.

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This is so much fun.

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And I think it's just

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Nicole: such

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Anke: a beautiful idea, right?

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I think it's just gorgeous.

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So thanks for coming and, you
know, sharing all these tips.

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So we're prepared.

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Thank you so much, Anke.

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