1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,640 Unknown: I saw a video of Ringo, and it was Paul's gigs, and they 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:10,380 did helter skelter together. Oh my gosh. I just thought I want 3 00:00:10,380 --> 00:00:14,400 to be there. That would be so fun to watch these two together. 4 00:00:15,060 --> 00:00:17,880 Or what if they just combined with the stones? 5 00:00:18,780 --> 00:00:19,800 Well, they, they, 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:22,040 hasn't there been 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:23,480 a little 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,920 perfect here guys? Well, they did the stones last album, the 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:32,480 most recent one, they did acne diamonds. There's a great cut on 10 00:00:32,480 --> 00:00:37,340 there that Paul McCarthy plays fuzz bass on, and it is funny. 11 00:00:37,460 --> 00:00:40,900 They sound like they're stones and Paul together, they sound 12 00:00:40,900 --> 00:00:44,260 like a young punk band. You can't believe these are 80 year 13 00:00:44,260 --> 00:00:44,740 old men. 14 00:00:47,140 --> 00:00:52,780 Welcome to a podcast about music and entertainment before it all 15 00:00:52,780 --> 00:00:57,940 goes down the disposal. This is circling the drain. 16 00:01:00,580 --> 00:01:04,080 Hey, welcome back into circling the drain. The podcast that 17 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,900 well, tries to keep these stories alive before they go 18 00:01:06,900 --> 00:01:10,500 down the drain. Nobody better to keep them alive than Jay. 19 00:01:10,500 --> 00:01:11,940 Harper, Jay, how are you doing, 20 00:01:11,940 --> 00:01:14,820 my friend? I'm okay. I thought maybe you were going to say, 21 00:01:14,820 --> 00:01:21,380 nobody better to put them down the drain than the Jay. But I'm 22 00:01:21,380 --> 00:01:22,940 fine, Johnny, I'm okay. 23 00:01:22,940 --> 00:01:26,120 And we have Jim McCarthy, who flies the ship and does so much 24 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,720 more. Thank you. It's good to have you guys aboard. And we've 25 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:35,600 been talking about groups that, well, they change members, and 26 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:40,400 some people get upset when the groups try to go out and keep 27 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:45,340 making, you know, music and money by touring without the 28 00:01:45,340 --> 00:01:46,480 original member. Yeah, 29 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,800 and you also have these bands where maybe one member will 30 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:58,300 leave the band but try to pass themselves off after having 31 00:01:58,300 --> 00:02:01,560 other artists join. You know, other musicians join them pass 32 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,340 themselves off as the original band. Yeah, you've had that 33 00:02:05,340 --> 00:02:09,060 conflict a time or two. Oh, well, this ended up in in 34 00:02:09,060 --> 00:02:09,720 courtrooms. 35 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,780 Oh, yeah. Deep Purple is a great example. There was a their first 36 00:02:12,780 --> 00:02:22,100 lead singer was rod Evans. He was the one that did anyway. 37 00:02:22,340 --> 00:02:27,140 They got rid of him. And when Deep Purple disbanded in 1976 38 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:32,900 and kind of became inactive, Rod Evans put together this faux 39 00:02:32,900 --> 00:02:37,340 group of musicians that weren't even involved in deep purple, 40 00:02:37,640 --> 00:02:42,160 and took them on the road, and they were selling out. Wow. And 41 00:02:42,820 --> 00:02:46,120 the original members of Deep Purple, of course, went to court 42 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,060 and sued him and stopped it. Yeah, like that. Wait a damn 43 00:02:49,060 --> 00:02:51,220 minute, yeah, we're not in there. 44 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,800 Yeah, that was the well, the whole reason why we're talking 45 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:58,180 about this is, as of earlier this week, yeah, we found out 46 00:02:58,180 --> 00:03:02,880 Rush is going back out on the road. Yes, they are Attica Niles 47 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:03,480 on drums. 48 00:03:03,660 --> 00:03:06,420 I think that's going to be exciting. I think so too. But 49 00:03:06,420 --> 00:03:09,960 there are some out there that are complaining about it. Yeah. 50 00:03:10,380 --> 00:03:13,620 They're saying, Oh, it's purely a money move, 51 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,740 yeah, so what's wrong? Yeah, they've got to make money. 52 00:03:16,740 --> 00:03:19,620 I don't think it's purely it's Well, yeah, sure. You know, the 53 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,100 guys haven't toured in 10 years. It's not like they need the 54 00:03:22,100 --> 00:03:22,340 money. 55 00:03:22,340 --> 00:03:26,840 Guys. No, no. I mean, but it does help. Sure, you know, it 56 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,980 does help for, and I don't understand people that you know, 57 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,620 get mad at these groups, especially the ones that do it 58 00:03:33,620 --> 00:03:37,880 for nostalgia. Yeah. I mean, they, they've got to make money. 59 00:03:37,940 --> 00:03:41,500 Everybody's got to make money. How are they going to do it? How 60 00:03:41,500 --> 00:03:44,320 are they? How are they going to fill those coffers up? They've 61 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:45,280 got to do what they do 62 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,720 best. I'm a huge brush fan. Have been since 1991 because I'm a 63 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,720 drummer, and Neil was a big influence on he was the best. 64 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:57,280 One of the things that I've kind of taken away from it is that 65 00:03:57,340 --> 00:04:02,400 they, I don't see Alex and Getty living lavish lifestyles. I'm 66 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:06,780 sure they're very comfortable, but I appreciate their approach, 67 00:04:06,780 --> 00:04:09,540 because if you watch the video they did, they're like, We 68 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,140 don't, it's not really rush. It's, it's a different version 69 00:04:13,140 --> 00:04:15,960 of Rush, even to the point where Getty talked about, I'm bringing 70 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,140 a third, a fourth person on stage to play the keyboards, 71 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,840 because I'm done, yeah, and it's like, know what, dude, good on 72 00:04:23,840 --> 00:04:28,820 you. You deserve it exactly. Do it? Do you? Yeah, it's he 73 00:04:28,820 --> 00:04:31,820 understands. It's like, it's not really rush, because Neil's not 74 00:04:31,820 --> 00:04:35,180 there. So it's kind of a tribute. Oh yeah, he just says 75 00:04:35,180 --> 00:04:36,320 it, you know? 76 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,540 Well, look at Leonard Skinner. I mean, there is not one surviving 77 00:04:40,540 --> 00:04:45,040 member in Leonard Skinner. Now, they're all different musicians, 78 00:04:45,280 --> 00:04:48,400 but they still go out and play the Skinner tunes. Yep, they're 79 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,220 basically a tribute band, but there's nothing wrong with that 80 00:04:51,220 --> 00:04:52,900 good journey. Oh, yeah, you 81 00:04:52,900 --> 00:04:57,760 know, when does it does? Okay, here's a good question. When 82 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:03,372 does it become a tribute? Is it when the singer is replaced, you 83 00:05:03,372 --> 00:05:04,092 know, was 84 00:05:04,092 --> 00:05:07,572 he with Van Halen? Van Halen? It would be the guitar player. I'm 85 00:05:07,572 --> 00:05:08,412 sorry, but 86 00:05:08,712 --> 00:05:13,212 yeah, I think it really does depend on the on the personality 87 00:05:13,212 --> 00:05:17,112 of the band, and what, what made them most popular, whether it be 88 00:05:17,112 --> 00:05:21,620 their lead singer or the, you know, certain musicians that are 89 00:05:21,620 --> 00:05:25,880 just iconic with their guitar playing, you know, or whatever 90 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,520 instrument it happens to be, right? I mean, you, you know, 91 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,580 you look at the band Chicago, how many lead singers have they 92 00:05:31,580 --> 00:05:35,480 had? Oh, man, you know. And still, people think Peter So 93 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:41,680 Tara is, you know, is the guy, but they've had a lot of success 94 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,160 with with other lead singers. Take the Doobie Brothers. Is it 95 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,540 Michael McDonald? Exactly, you know. I mean, you can still be 96 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:54,340 the band. I mean, I have seen it's been a while. Heck, it was 97 00:05:54,340 --> 00:05:57,460 at Starwood. To tell you how long ago it was, when I saw 98 00:05:57,460 --> 00:06:00,480 Chicago and Earth, Wind and Fire, they were on the same 99 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,020 bill. Oh, cool show. Yeah. You know, they played separately, 100 00:06:04,020 --> 00:06:08,100 and then they played together to finish the show. But, you know, 101 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,700 even by that time, Chicago had different lead singers and 102 00:06:11,700 --> 00:06:14,640 stuff, oh, yeah, but boy, the essence in the heart of the band 103 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,160 was still there. That's, that's maybe the thing, you know, with 104 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:22,280 Robert Lamb and you know that those all the horn players that 105 00:06:22,280 --> 00:06:26,240 was Chicago. To me, yeah, okay, you know, so Tara and the other 106 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,380 lead singers they had are, are certainly, uh, part of their 107 00:06:30,380 --> 00:06:35,060 their essence and all, but it's that just kick ass horn section, 108 00:06:35,060 --> 00:06:39,380 yeah, oh yeah. That is the essence in the personality of 109 00:06:39,380 --> 00:06:43,180 Chicago. It to me. I know others may feel different no matter who 110 00:06:43,180 --> 00:06:46,720 their lead singer is, as long as those, as long as they're good, 111 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,800 I guess, but Yeah, as long as that, that, you know, Wall of 112 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,700 Sound with the horns is there. That is Chicago. 113 00:06:54,700 --> 00:06:57,760 I agree. I would agree with that as well. And I would say too 114 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:03,960 with Van Halen. I'm glad that they decided to just in the 115 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:08,640 group, because without Eddie Van Halen, I think you've pretty 116 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,920 much taken the heart and soul out of 117 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,220 that band. Did you see when it came by last summer with Hagar? 118 00:07:14,700 --> 00:07:15,120 I 119 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,400 saw some of the clips. I didn't go see them. I 120 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,080 went to that show. Did you? Yeah, it was it was good. I love 121 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,200 the fact that, you know, you 77 Oh yeah. He's still freaking 122 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,440 rocking, still got a great voice. You know, Michael 123 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,740 Anthony's up there doing his thing. But you had Kenny Aaron 124 00:07:30,740 --> 00:07:33,440 off on drums, yes, who actually was the second night, because 125 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,420 Jason Bonham was going to take care of his 126 00:07:35,420 --> 00:07:38,480 mom. He was in the Elton John band for a while. Was Kenny 127 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:39,500 Aaron off? Yeah, I believe 128 00:07:39,500 --> 00:07:42,340 so he was it was it melon. Camp was melon. 129 00:07:42,340 --> 00:07:46,540 Yeah, thinking that he played drums on on an could have, when 130 00:07:46,540 --> 00:07:48,040 Nigel Olson had split, 131 00:07:48,100 --> 00:07:51,940 he could have, because Kenny Aaron off played with Waylon, 132 00:07:51,940 --> 00:07:53,140 yeah, I'm sorry. Oh yeah. 133 00:07:53,380 --> 00:07:57,160 Kenny Aaron off played with Smashing Pumpkins, Avril Levine, 134 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,660 I believe Michelle Branch. We saw him. We saw him in Vegas 135 00:08:00,660 --> 00:08:03,300 with Michelle Branch. He got more of applause, and she did, 136 00:08:03,900 --> 00:08:07,620 wow. First I've ever saw that he came walking out on stage and 137 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,720 like people, like standing ovation. 138 00:08:09,900 --> 00:08:12,480 Well, the guy's, I mean, he's phenomenal drummer. He's 139 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,200 legendary, yeah, just phenomenal colorful language. He is 140 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,360 colorful linguist. But you're not wrong. I mean, it's like, it 141 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,140 was weird to see Satriani. You know, doing, you know, Satriani 142 00:08:24,140 --> 00:08:27,500 is, like, he's got to feel like, to it. This is Eddie, yes, you 143 00:08:27,500 --> 00:08:29,660 know, I mean, this is, I'll do my best. 144 00:08:29,659 --> 00:08:33,019 This is the king, yeah, would be like, somebody going out and 145 00:08:33,019 --> 00:08:36,919 doing Elvis. You've got to be really, you got to feel really 146 00:08:36,919 --> 00:08:40,839 good about yourself and self confident to go out and cover 147 00:08:40,839 --> 00:08:46,299 Elvis, yeah, all these Tribute Artists of because I have, I 148 00:08:46,299 --> 00:08:49,959 have a friend of mine that does that, and I think you, you've 149 00:08:49,959 --> 00:08:53,319 got cojones inside of Texas if you want to do that right now. 150 00:08:53,380 --> 00:08:56,740 But to me, like Journey is a their cover band. 151 00:08:58,060 --> 00:09:00,960 Well, they really are without Steve Barry, Oh, yeah. I 152 00:09:00,959 --> 00:09:04,139 mean, that is such an iconic voice. I mean, there are certain 153 00:09:04,139 --> 00:09:06,839 voices though, that just can't be replaced. 154 00:09:07,260 --> 00:09:09,840 Well, it'd like The Rolling Stones if something happened to 155 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,900 Mick Jagger, yeah. Well, the stones wouldn't be the stone, 156 00:09:12,900 --> 00:09:16,620 yeah, and bad company without Paul Rogers. I mean, oh, no way. 157 00:09:16,620 --> 00:09:17,400 That's just 158 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,440 not gonna work. No, it's not. Now, I will 159 00:09:19,439 --> 00:09:21,719 say something that's probably gonna be very unpopular, 160 00:09:21,719 --> 00:09:24,619 especially amongst drummers. Especially amongst drummers. I'm 161 00:09:24,619 --> 00:09:28,039 afraid I think Annika is going to do a very good job and 162 00:09:28,039 --> 00:09:33,199 tribute to Neil. But as a drummer studying the two camps, 163 00:09:34,879 --> 00:09:38,419 technique wise and feel wise, she's got it all over him. She's 164 00:09:38,419 --> 00:09:42,699 good, really. She's that good. Wow. He was like, he was, like, 165 00:09:42,699 --> 00:09:45,759 a trailblazer, yeah, he was, and he was like, I call him the 166 00:09:45,759 --> 00:09:51,819 common, common man's drummer. He was good. But, I mean, there are 167 00:09:51,819 --> 00:09:54,459 drummers out there that could smoke him, you know, he just 168 00:09:54,459 --> 00:09:57,999 got, he was first in the mind, from a marketing perspective, he 169 00:09:57,999 --> 00:10:00,779 got that, that kind of position everyone, like. Know, well, Neil 170 00:10:00,779 --> 00:10:03,479 Peart, he's the best, yeah, I get that, you know, you may, he 171 00:10:03,479 --> 00:10:06,659 got that that first in the mind, because he was so groundbreaking 172 00:10:06,659 --> 00:10:07,019 with his 173 00:10:07,020 --> 00:10:11,340 parts. Yeah. I mean, is Carl Palmer in that discussion? I 174 00:10:11,340 --> 00:10:11,520 would 175 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,020 say, so, yeah. Carl Palmer, I 176 00:10:13,020 --> 00:10:16,140 don't think gets his due. I will think he can pace from a deep 177 00:10:16,140 --> 00:10:18,660 purple, gets his due. Carter Beaufort, from Dave Matthews, 178 00:10:18,660 --> 00:10:23,840 yeah, and Alex Van Halen really freaking lutely, that dude was 179 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:24,620 phenomenal. 180 00:10:24,620 --> 00:10:29,360 He is, he was, he still is, he just won't. He walks with a cane 181 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,480 now. But had he auctioned off all this stuff? 182 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,360 Yeah, it was kind of like what Sammy said. I don't think he's 183 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,660 gonna be joining us, because he got rid of all of his stuff. And 184 00:10:38,660 --> 00:10:40,900 while we're thinking of stuff, and I brought up Waylon 185 00:10:40,900 --> 00:10:44,740 Jennings, and we'll get back to our story. But this is, this is 186 00:10:44,740 --> 00:10:49,120 to shooter Jennings, who I love. I love shooter Jennings, but I 187 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:54,040 ordered this new Waylon Jennings songbird album I ordered. I pre 188 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:58,960 ordered it months ago. I still haven't gotten it, and it's been 189 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,580 out how long now? It's been out for a couple of about a week. 190 00:11:02,580 --> 00:11:05,400 Yeah, that's what I thought. And I'm thinking it shouldn't take 191 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,100 over this time to get a Waylon Jennings, 192 00:11:08,099 --> 00:11:11,519 well, especially if you pre ordered it. Well, yeah, I 193 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,720 even checked on the on where it was at. It's still in Fort Worth 194 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,600 Oh, really, yeah, it's getting ready to put the label 195 00:11:18,599 --> 00:11:21,319 on it. That's probably something he can't control. 196 00:11:21,439 --> 00:11:24,019 Yeah, it's, you know, a bunch of people smoking dope in your 197 00:11:24,019 --> 00:11:24,439 warehouse. 198 00:11:26,420 --> 00:11:31,100 But I seen people on eBay and and Amazon that order already 199 00:11:31,100 --> 00:11:33,740 got it. So that's where I probably should have done it. 200 00:11:33,740 --> 00:11:37,820 But anyway, I digress. We're talking about, I just had to get 201 00:11:37,820 --> 00:11:42,220 that out because I, I just wanted to bitch. Thank you. But 202 00:11:43,060 --> 00:11:45,100 you know one guy that was notorious 203 00:11:47,500 --> 00:11:48,940 new segment, hey, 204 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,200 grinds my gear. Anyway. 205 00:11:53,620 --> 00:11:58,300 Richie Blackmore, you know deep purple fame. You talk about a 206 00:11:58,300 --> 00:12:04,200 guy taking changing members of bands, he's the king because you 207 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,380 had deep purple. They got rid of their as we were talking 208 00:12:07,380 --> 00:12:11,280 earlier, Rod Evans and Nick Semper, who were the lead singer 209 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:15,120 and bass player. They got rid of them because Blackboard wanted 210 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:20,100 more of a Robert Plant type voice. And they got Ian Gillan 211 00:12:20,580 --> 00:12:24,800 and Roger Glover. And that was the that was the mark too deep 212 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,040 purple that everybody kind of fell in love with, with Smoke on 213 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:32,480 the Water woman from Tokyo, you know, space truck and highway 214 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:37,460 star. And right at the height of their success, they were like 215 00:12:37,460 --> 00:12:46,240 the number one selling album Band and billboard, they get rid 216 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:50,260 of Ian Gillan and Roger Glover, and they bring in David 217 00:12:50,260 --> 00:12:55,360 Coverdale and Glen Hughes. And after he does that, then 218 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,320 Blackmore splits deep purple to do his own thing with his band. 219 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:04,860 Rainbow, right, right. Rainbow did not have a solid lineup 220 00:13:04,860 --> 00:13:10,560 their entire life of the band. Every album had different 221 00:13:10,620 --> 00:13:15,780 members. Wow. I mean, there was not one album that had, oh, it's 222 00:13:15,780 --> 00:13:18,960 the same group of guy. No, somebody would always get sacked 223 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:23,300 and and he said, basically he looked at musicians like he 224 00:13:23,300 --> 00:13:25,460 said, I'm like a vampire. I want new blood. 225 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:30,200 And that's the thing is that, what does that benefited him? 226 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:31,340 How did that pay off? 227 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:37,640 Yeah, see, I even though I love rainbows, I did love Blackmores 228 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:42,220 playing and I loved rainbows albums, all of them at the same 229 00:13:42,220 --> 00:13:46,180 time, I would kind of go, dang. And I kind of missed that 230 00:13:46,180 --> 00:13:49,900 drummer, yeah? Or I miss, you know, Ronnie James Dio got, you 231 00:13:49,900 --> 00:13:53,800 know, they split up, yeah, it was like, there's no continuity 232 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,580 in this band. It's hard to get an allegiance. Well, 233 00:13:57,579 --> 00:14:00,659 it's, I think it's fatiguing for the audience too, because they 234 00:14:01,019 --> 00:14:04,799 audiences? I think people are typically attracted to culture. 235 00:14:04,799 --> 00:14:09,839 Good culture. Yes. You know the E Street Band, Love him or hate 236 00:14:09,839 --> 00:14:13,739 him. Bruce Springsteen, he's got a following that's fervent, that 237 00:14:13,979 --> 00:14:17,519 you have passionate following of people. Oh, yeah. He kept the 238 00:14:17,519 --> 00:14:20,879 same lineup. Yes, he did. He was loyal to 239 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,340 Yes, okay, well, even the 240 00:14:22,339 --> 00:14:25,579 stones were that way, right? You know, in some of your country, 241 00:14:25,579 --> 00:14:29,299 bands have been, well, you know, Merle, haggard, the strangers, 242 00:14:29,359 --> 00:14:33,139 yes, those guys. I mean, it was the same band, the same band 243 00:14:33,139 --> 00:14:34,579 members for 60 244 00:14:34,579 --> 00:14:38,059 years. Oh yeah, white one and the Wailers. Even though there 245 00:14:38,059 --> 00:14:41,919 were some people that came and went. You had Richie Albright 246 00:14:41,919 --> 00:14:45,639 and Ralph Mooney, as long as you had those two in the band with 247 00:14:45,639 --> 00:14:46,239 Waylon 248 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:52,600 hag it was norm Hamlet on steel, Roy Nichols on guitar, Biff Adam 249 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,680 on drum, Dennis romack on bass. And I forget the name of the 250 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:01,260 guy. He had a sax play a country band with a sax. Max play, yeah, 251 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:06,660 you know all those years, you know Jimmy Belkin on fiddle, and 252 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,840 he had gimbal with him for a while. I mean, but you know, 253 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:14,100 it's when you become a fan of a certain artist. You kind of 254 00:15:14,100 --> 00:15:19,440 relate to the band members. Oh, you do? You know Elton John has 255 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:24,020 had Davey John Stone on guitar, Nigel Olson on drums, Dee Murray 256 00:15:24,020 --> 00:15:27,020 on whatever. You know, Dee passed away a number of years 257 00:15:27,020 --> 00:15:31,580 ago. In fact, one of the greatest shows that I ever saw 258 00:15:31,820 --> 00:15:35,060 there was a benefit for Dee Murray's family at the opry 259 00:15:35,060 --> 00:15:40,100 house in Nashville, and it was Elton John by himself. You know, 260 00:15:40,100 --> 00:15:44,620 I'd sat, you know, 10 rows away from the guy, yeah, and it was 261 00:15:44,620 --> 00:15:49,420 just him solo, you know, on the on the piano for that tribute 262 00:15:49,420 --> 00:15:53,080 for a couple of hours. Talk about a magical night. But, I 263 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,380 mean, but again, you you know, especially those of us from a 264 00:15:56,380 --> 00:15:59,140 certain generation that sat there and looked over those 265 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:04,020 vinyl album covers and you read everything on it who all the 266 00:16:04,020 --> 00:16:07,500 players were, and, you know, relevant, yeah, 267 00:16:07,500 --> 00:16:11,880 oh, I remember the news, the new record smell. Oh, I loved it. 268 00:16:11,939 --> 00:16:14,879 And I love the Elton John albums, because he would had all 269 00:16:14,879 --> 00:16:19,739 the lyrics were in that, and not every artist did that. No, yeah, 270 00:16:19,739 --> 00:16:23,119 it was such a treat to be able to open all that stuff up and 271 00:16:23,119 --> 00:16:26,779 read the lyrics along with the stuff and see who the artists 272 00:16:26,779 --> 00:16:28,939 were. Well, I remember the positions were the 273 00:16:28,939 --> 00:16:32,419 Beatles. I remember when the Beatles first did that was on 274 00:16:32,419 --> 00:16:35,959 Sergeant I think that's why Sergeant Pepper became such a 275 00:16:36,139 --> 00:16:39,259 such a phenomenon, because it was the first time there were 276 00:16:39,259 --> 00:16:42,699 lyrics on the back of the record, I was like, This is 277 00:16:42,699 --> 00:16:45,039 phenomenal. I wish every group would do this, 278 00:16:45,100 --> 00:16:48,520 yeah? Because, let's face it, so many rock things, he knows. What 279 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:49,480 the hell are they saying? 280 00:16:49,660 --> 00:16:53,320 Yeah, especially Mick Jagger. What do you say? 281 00:16:55,180 --> 00:16:58,540 That's another topic we could cover. Yeah, exactly. But, I 282 00:16:58,540 --> 00:17:01,740 mean, that's you bring up a good point to your point, especially 283 00:17:01,740 --> 00:17:07,740 in the country genre, people love loyalty. Yes, they do. So 284 00:17:07,740 --> 00:17:11,220 when you take a Tim McGraw and all of a sudden he starts 285 00:17:11,220 --> 00:17:15,420 changing up the dance hall doctors, like he did. What 286 00:17:15,420 --> 00:17:17,880 happened? Like it literally, like he fell off the face of the 287 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,300 map when that happened? Yeah. I mean, he didn't, I mean, he had 288 00:17:20,300 --> 00:17:22,700 it. He still had a couple of hits here and there, but not 289 00:17:22,700 --> 00:17:26,180 like he used to. Yeah? Keith Urban just did it. Changed up 290 00:17:26,180 --> 00:17:30,260 his band, longtime guys, 20 plus year guys, because he wants to 291 00:17:30,260 --> 00:17:33,800 stay relevant. Yeah? And it's like, dude, yeah, you do that. 292 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:38,480 No. Well, it's like, David Allen Coe, I loved he had a band that 293 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,700 had that's where I first saw Warren Haynes, the guy that's 294 00:17:42,700 --> 00:17:45,820 with a government mule now, great guitar player, also with 295 00:17:45,820 --> 00:17:51,100 the Allman Brothers at times, but I saw him. He had him. He 296 00:17:51,100 --> 00:17:57,940 had Mickey Hayes on bass. He had just this great band. And right 297 00:17:57,940 --> 00:18:01,320 in the in the middle of all, like when he was getting success 298 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:05,940 with the ride and all that, he changed it up and brought in 299 00:18:05,940 --> 00:18:11,580 more bluegrass players. And I thought bad, bad move, bad move, 300 00:18:11,580 --> 00:18:16,020 because everybody got into that sound. You had a great country 301 00:18:16,020 --> 00:18:19,920 rock sound with. He should have, he should have paid Warren 302 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:25,100 Haynes. I mean, whatever Warren Haynes wanted money wise. Give 303 00:18:25,100 --> 00:18:28,880 it to him, because he gave so much and added so much to your 304 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:33,860 stage show. And some people just don't get it. Their egos are, I 305 00:18:33,860 --> 00:18:35,120 think, too out there. 306 00:18:35,719 --> 00:18:39,979 And it's the same thing with Billy Joel when he Yes, 307 00:18:39,979 --> 00:18:43,539 jettisoned liberty. Joe Vito, dude, what are you thinking 308 00:18:43,539 --> 00:18:46,839 here, man? Guys, been with you, with you, since the get go. 309 00:18:47,020 --> 00:18:49,840 But yeah, as you say, Jim, I mean, I again, I'm just kind of 310 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,660 going through my head a lot of these country artists. And, you 311 00:18:52,660 --> 00:18:56,200 know, George Strait, he's had the same group of guys forever. 312 00:18:56,260 --> 00:19:00,040 Aldean, yeah. I mean, Willie Nelson, I mean bill, 313 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,660 tell us, with the state side another thing too. A lot of 314 00:19:03,660 --> 00:19:08,160 those country acts had huge bands. Gosh, the state siders 315 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:13,920 had two fiddle players. I mean, just phenomenal sound. And 316 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,060 what's happened to that? Man? 317 00:19:15,060 --> 00:19:17,460 I don't know. I think a lot of the you know, as you were 318 00:19:17,460 --> 00:19:21,200 saying, Jim with, you know, McGraw, changing a lot of his 319 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,800 members. I think it gets to a point where, as you say, they're 320 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,100 trying to stay relevant. And I guess they figure the optics at 321 00:19:28,100 --> 00:19:31,880 times, you know, you got a bunch of players that are, you know, 322 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:36,620 60 year old, fat guys that look like me, you know me back there. 323 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:43,300 And that's just not, not the look. And, yeah, you know, 324 00:19:43,300 --> 00:19:47,380 McGraw got really fit, yeah, and he shaved his head. Have you 325 00:19:47,380 --> 00:19:51,220 seen him? Did he Yeah? He did, yeah, shaved his head. Oh yeah, 326 00:19:51,220 --> 00:19:52,420 he's got the Mr. Clean 327 00:19:52,420 --> 00:19:54,340 thing going. Thank God. Faith Hill didn't 328 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,920 do that. Kenny Chesney, I mean, again, Tim could pack a stick. 329 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,240 Stadium right now. Kenny Chesney, I think he's kept the 330 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,240 same band members. He thought he does his big studio or stadium 331 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,820 tours every year. I'd love to go see him, because apparently it's 332 00:20:08,820 --> 00:20:12,300 a great time. He's like, really kind of take it picked up the 333 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,020 Jimmy Buffett, Exactly, yep. Zach Brown has kind of done that 334 00:20:16,020 --> 00:20:19,020 too. You know, Caribbean kind of sound, too. 335 00:20:19,020 --> 00:20:21,260 And I was happy to see Alabama, 336 00:20:22,820 --> 00:20:26,900 bring back Mark Herndon. Mark Herndon, because I felt like I 337 00:20:26,900 --> 00:20:30,020 couldn't believe the way they were talking about him. It's 338 00:20:30,020 --> 00:20:33,260 about like with Van Halen, with Michael Anthony, yeah, you know, 339 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,100 there's no sense in treating somebody like that. They were 340 00:20:37,100 --> 00:20:40,400 saying, Oh, he was never a true band member. 341 00:20:40,399 --> 00:20:44,019 Well, that that was the rub, apparently, is that Teddy 342 00:20:44,019 --> 00:20:47,199 Gentry, Jeff Cook and Randy Owen. You know, they're all 343 00:20:47,199 --> 00:20:51,459 cousins, and that was the corporation. Mark Herndon was 344 00:20:51,459 --> 00:20:52,539 just a hired hand. 345 00:20:52,540 --> 00:20:55,900 That's why they put Yeah, and I wouldn't even have put that out 346 00:20:55,900 --> 00:20:59,140 if I were them, even if it were the truth, because all it did 347 00:20:59,140 --> 00:21:02,880 was make fans kind of go. But my God, that's the way we looked at 348 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,880 you guys kind of crap. Yeah, Mark was part of the band. A lot 349 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,500 of women like Mark, and I thought that was a bad move, but 350 00:21:10,500 --> 00:21:13,440 they recently had him come back on, and I thought, you know, 351 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:14,940 that's class. You should have done 352 00:21:14,939 --> 00:21:17,339 that. It's funny. There's another band that goes through 353 00:21:17,339 --> 00:21:21,139 drummers like they go through underwear, Slipknot, they're 354 00:21:21,139 --> 00:21:23,359 constantly it's like, you know, if I'm a drummer, they just 355 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:29,419 hired. They got rid of Jay Weinberg, and Jay luckily landed 356 00:21:29,419 --> 00:21:32,419 in a good spot with suicidal tendencies, and he's an 357 00:21:32,419 --> 00:21:35,839 incredible drummer. His first big gig was playing his father's 358 00:21:35,839 --> 00:21:39,139 Max Weinberg, yeah, with the E Street Band. So I guess Max 359 00:21:39,139 --> 00:21:42,039 couldn't play a gig. And one of Jay's first big gigs was backing 360 00:21:42,039 --> 00:21:45,279 us, taking his father's spot. Oh, wow, backing up Bruce. You 361 00:21:45,279 --> 00:21:47,739 know, obviously he's known him all his life and whatever. But, 362 00:21:48,519 --> 00:21:51,099 you know, he loved the gig. The ad was Slipknot, and they just, 363 00:21:51,339 --> 00:21:51,939 you're done, 364 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:58,000 dude, where is the loyalty? Yeah. It's like fans pick up on 365 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,020 this. Oh, yeah, they do. They really do. Yeah. It hurts you 366 00:22:01,020 --> 00:22:04,020 when you do this. Well, it's like, you know, to a lot of 367 00:22:04,020 --> 00:22:06,960 fans, and it's really this way more in country, I think, than 368 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:11,760 in rock and roll. But fans, you almost become, like, these 369 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,160 people become a part of your family. That's what it feels 370 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:14,460 like 371 00:22:14,460 --> 00:22:16,980 bigger loyalty factor in country. I think, Oh, I think 372 00:22:16,980 --> 00:22:17,340 there is 373 00:22:17,399 --> 00:22:21,199 too, and, and, man, if you, if you really screw with that. 374 00:22:21,199 --> 00:22:26,299 That's why, even though I was a big fan of Waylon, I thought it 375 00:22:26,299 --> 00:22:31,099 was a big mistake of his to play rock star when he was so big, 376 00:22:31,639 --> 00:22:35,239 because he would not be available for fans and with 377 00:22:35,239 --> 00:22:38,359 country music fans. That's that's a mistake. That's a death 378 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:38,959 nail. That 379 00:22:38,959 --> 00:22:40,639 is a huge mistake. Yeah. 380 00:22:40,700 --> 00:22:44,620 What are the bands that are like they become known for just 381 00:22:44,620 --> 00:22:47,740 having so many interchangeable members? I can't, I know we've 382 00:22:47,740 --> 00:22:50,140 mentioned some of them, but there's one that's at the tip of 383 00:22:50,140 --> 00:22:52,960 my tongue that like they're just known. Like, okay, well, which, 384 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:53,920 which iteration, 385 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,260 which version are we getting? Gosh, there's a bunch of there 386 00:22:59,260 --> 00:23:03,300 is it might be foreigner, yeah? Foreigners. Another one, yeah. 387 00:23:03,780 --> 00:23:07,920 And I never have liked them without Lou Graham. I just it's 388 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,060 not foreign, not foreigner. No. That dude has such a great 389 00:23:12,060 --> 00:23:12,720 voice. 390 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,620 He did. I mean, you have, like, bands in the punk genre, like 391 00:23:16,620 --> 00:23:19,680 Bad Religion, they've gone through, they've had mainly the 392 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,640 same core of guys. I mean, they're one of the godfathers of 393 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,480 punk. Going back to the early 80s, their drummers have been 394 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,440 interchangeable, but mainly because the drummers just left. 395 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,940 You know the Bobby, I can't remember his last his last name, 396 00:23:34,940 --> 00:23:38,000 but he he hurt his shoulder. He got injured, so he had to leave. 397 00:23:38,120 --> 00:23:43,600 They replaced him with Brooks Wackerman, who's a monster. I 398 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,660 mean, the dude is so good. What a great name. Oh yeah. Well, his 399 00:23:46,660 --> 00:23:49,840 his brother's Chad Wackerman, who's who played with Zappa and 400 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,840 everything. Yeah, that so a family of drummers. The guy is 401 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,260 an amazing player. He was on probably, he was with them for 402 00:23:56,260 --> 00:23:59,200 15 years. And, you know, I remember when they were looking 403 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,040 for a drummer. I was in Vegas at the time, and I'm going, well, 404 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:06,660 maybe I'll try out. You know, it's just hard. And then I heard 405 00:24:06,660 --> 00:24:09,660 they got him, and I said, No, I'm good, nope. 406 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,980 Not gonna go there, nope. Well, it's kind of like AC DC, you 407 00:24:13,980 --> 00:24:18,420 know, when Brian Johnson had to drop out. I remember everybody 408 00:24:18,420 --> 00:24:21,860 just when they when they when they said it was gonna be Axl 409 00:24:21,860 --> 00:24:28,520 Rose. I remember so many fans just raising hell, but watching, 410 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,960 watching the videos that I did. I thought Axl Rose did a great 411 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:37,340 job on the bond Scott material, really the Brian Johnson stuff. 412 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,080 I think this is just me. I thought he kind of fell flat on 413 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:46,780 but the bond Scott material, you know, like Riff Raff and Highway 414 00:24:46,780 --> 00:24:50,440 to Hell. I thought, Man, he's nailing it. How can you 415 00:24:51,940 --> 00:24:53,380 have you ever tried to sing, 416 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,460 like, Yeah, like that, yeah. Well, I did. I actually got up 417 00:24:57,460 --> 00:25:01,200 with a few bands and yeah and. Actually pulled, I kind of 418 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,880 pulled it off, really, yeah, I was actually in little town 419 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,540 south of Nashville, here called Shelbyville, or as a shovel, 420 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:14,820 shovel, shovel, yeah. But there was a great man down there 421 00:25:14,820 --> 00:25:15,240 called, 422 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,620 oh gosh, now I'm drawing a blank, bittersweet. 423 00:25:21,620 --> 00:25:26,900 Is what they recall. They played a lot of Southern rock, and they 424 00:25:26,900 --> 00:25:31,760 did TNT one night, invited me up and I sang it, and the crowd 425 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,320 went crazy, and it was really cool. I was like, I would kind 426 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:37,340 of like to do this. 427 00:25:39,140 --> 00:25:41,080 I would like to do rock. You know, 428 00:25:41,140 --> 00:25:44,200 it's like you're singing that music. You're in a perpetual 429 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,580 state of Hawking up a loogie. 430 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,140 It's basically like you're, you're, you know, it sounds like 431 00:25:50,140 --> 00:25:53,920 you're gargling with Jack Daniels and razor razor blades. 432 00:25:53,920 --> 00:26:00,300 Yeah, and von Scott, that guy, I just pictured him just non stop 433 00:26:00,300 --> 00:26:04,740 drinking and Non Stop screwing. That's all I thought. That's 434 00:26:04,740 --> 00:26:06,060 this guy's life 435 00:26:06,180 --> 00:26:08,880 until he's on stage. You know, that doesn't sound too bad, 436 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:09,420 quite a gig, 437 00:26:09,419 --> 00:26:13,439 doesn't it kind of tapers off as we get older. Yeah, it 438 00:26:13,439 --> 00:26:15,479 does. But he's one of them does 439 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,620 assault with a dead weapon. But anyway, Brian, I thought Brian 440 00:26:21,620 --> 00:26:27,260 Johnson. I didn't think Brian. I When, when Bon Scott died. I 441 00:26:27,260 --> 00:26:31,940 really wondered about ac dc, dc future, because I thought that 442 00:26:31,940 --> 00:26:37,280 dude had such a unique voice, great front man, yep. And I 443 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,020 didn't know much about Brian Johnson. I did watch a video of 444 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,580 what Jordy, that was one of his first bands, and I'm like, Oh, 445 00:26:45,580 --> 00:26:49,780 this isn't gonna work. But, man, when they came out with I heard 446 00:26:49,780 --> 00:26:54,880 you shook me all night long on FM radio, and I went, Yeah, this 447 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,980 could work. This sounds great. 448 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,480 Sammy, hey. Hagar replaced Roth, yeah. 449 00:27:01,260 --> 00:27:05,160 Now that when I I was excited about because I like Sammy Yeah, 450 00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:10,080 and I knew he could sing, yeah, yeah. David Lee Roth was a great 451 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,040 lyricist, great showman, not a great singer. He 452 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,900 had that, that, like Tibetan monk, multiple, multi faceted 453 00:27:18,900 --> 00:27:23,720 vocal thing going on when he was on, like you could hear like 454 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,440 several different tones, yes, you know what I mean, yes. And 455 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,700 that was cool. That thing with Van Halen, Van Halen with Roth 456 00:27:32,180 --> 00:27:35,300 was like a circus act. It was like the circus had come to 457 00:27:35,300 --> 00:27:40,120 town. It was an event when, when Hagar joined the band, they 458 00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:41,560 became a good band. 459 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,520 Yeah, they became very radio friendly. Oh gosh, 460 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:50,020 you're not kidding. I mean, and and friendly with the parents 461 00:27:50,020 --> 00:27:53,500 too. Because when you have songs like when it's love, love walks 462 00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:57,400 in. Oh well, we can get behind this. Guys. I got 463 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,920 another song about love. Oh gosh, here we go. 464 00:28:01,180 --> 00:28:03,120 How many songs about love? Do we need Sammy? 465 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,500 But then they'd hear something like black and blue by him. Oh, 466 00:28:08,340 --> 00:28:10,020 all that is, is about, you know, 467 00:28:10,020 --> 00:28:14,640 yeah, just sex. When I first heard that song, so I was like, 468 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,400 I was still getting into playing the drums. I must have been 11 469 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,080 or 12 years old. Is that right? That came out in 88 so I was 470 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:26,960 probably 1314, 15. I didn't listen to lyrics all that much 471 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,540 back then, because I was always listening to music and the drums 472 00:28:29,540 --> 00:28:32,240 and stuff like that. I as an adult, I went back and listened 473 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,260 to that song and I'm going, I was blushing. I'm going, Oh my 474 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:36,920 god. 475 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,300 Oh yeah. His lyrics, man. They also have one of their same 476 00:28:40,300 --> 00:28:45,100 album, sucker in a three piece. Yeah, I like man. These lyrics, 477 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,080 you go from when it's love 478 00:28:47,260 --> 00:28:50,980 to this, Emmy's just in perpetual horniness. Boy. 479 00:28:50,980 --> 00:28:55,960 He really is. If you ever heard up for breakfast, off their best 480 00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:01,320 in both worlds. This is, this is so blatant. It's so obvious, 481 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,580 yeah, it's like, I kind of dug David's lyrics a little more 482 00:29:05,580 --> 00:29:06,840 than I did sammy's. 483 00:29:07,020 --> 00:29:09,300 Well, Sammy, yeah, I mean, he was a great singer, a little one 484 00:29:09,300 --> 00:29:11,100 dimensional when it comes to lyrics, 485 00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:14,640 yes. And really, as far as being a front man, after you've had 486 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,960 David Lee Roth, I just thought, well, I can't see the girls 487 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,840 really getting into Sammy as much as 488 00:29:21,860 --> 00:29:23,180 that opening salvo in 489 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,400 what is the song? The first song off of 5150, oh, good enough. 490 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,840 Good enough. Yeah, hello, babe. That was a middle finger. Oh, it 491 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,320 was, that was like we're coming out roaring, yes. 492 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,300 And they did. But then Roth came out with a great album, yeah, 493 00:29:40,300 --> 00:29:43,360 and he was another one. If he'd have kept that band together, 494 00:29:43,420 --> 00:29:45,940 the eat it and smile, eat them and smile. Band 495 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,020 we need, we need to have, oh, talk about stories. If I can get 496 00:29:50,020 --> 00:29:53,320 them on here, I'd look. That would be amazing. Ray Luzia, who 497 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,720 plays for corn, right? Yeah, he's a drummer for corn. He 498 00:29:55,780 --> 00:29:57,700 played with David Lee Roth for seven years. 499 00:29:58,179 --> 00:30:02,279 We need to get Billy Sheehan. I. Yeah, Billy Sheehan never get 500 00:30:02,279 --> 00:30:07,499 them both. Yeah, yeah, because Billy Sheehan, you talk about a 501 00:30:07,499 --> 00:30:10,859 bass player that is phenomenal. I mean, he's Eddie Van Halen of 502 00:30:10,859 --> 00:30:15,119 the bass guitar, but yeah, if Roth would have kept that band 503 00:30:15,119 --> 00:30:17,939 together, because I remember when that album came out, 504 00:30:18,479 --> 00:30:23,899 because 5150 came out first, and it was more radio friendly, eat 505 00:30:23,899 --> 00:30:29,179 them and smile was, I mean, rock and roll. And it was in the Van 506 00:30:29,179 --> 00:30:34,339 Halen, the classic, oh yeah, and Billy Sheehan and Greg 507 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,880 Bissonnette, yeah, when that came out, because I was such a 508 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,600 huge Alex fan at the time, getting at the drums. And I'm 509 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,760 like, Who is this guy, Greg Bissonette. And then Greg 510 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:47,080 Bissonnette put I had no idea of his pedigree, none. Greg 511 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,040 Bissonnette is a an accomplished drummer. I mean, he's done he 512 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,740 was in the one o'clock lab band and North Texas State 513 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:58,720 University, very highly educated, big jazz guy and stuff 514 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,880 like that. So he put out a VHS tape back in the late 80s called 515 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,420 private lessons, and it was just him with his blonde hair and 516 00:31:06,420 --> 00:31:09,900 stuff like that, you know, his neon colored drum set that he 517 00:31:09,900 --> 00:31:15,000 had from the Roth years. Yeah, I watched the crap out of that. I 518 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,000 learned so much, you know, because it's like, Alex wouldn't 519 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,200 do that. You wouldn't put out an educational product. No, but all 520 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,720 of a sudden I'm like, Oh, this guy, this dude's formidable. 521 00:31:24,020 --> 00:31:25,040 He's a he's a good player. 522 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,640 Oh, he has a good player. And if he, like I said, I just wish 523 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,940 Roth would have kept it when he came back out with skyscraper 524 00:31:31,940 --> 00:31:35,420 next Yeah, and then eat him. And smile wasn't even smile, eat 525 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,180 him. And smile was the first one. And then the third one was 526 00:31:38,180 --> 00:31:41,500 the one with the devil on it. Yeah, little ain't enough, or 527 00:31:41,620 --> 00:31:42,220 yes, 528 00:31:42,220 --> 00:31:47,860 yeah, that's right. In fact, right? Roth made a great Shy 529 00:31:47,860 --> 00:31:50,740 Boy, I think was on eat him and smile, was it? Yeah? Because 530 00:31:50,740 --> 00:31:55,480 that's Billy Sheehan wrote that, okay. But Roth actually came out 531 00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:01,680 with a great rock album that got no traction at all in 96 it was 532 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,540 DLR band had Betty page on the cover. Yeah, and, I mean, a 533 00:32:06,540 --> 00:32:09,480 great I think John five was the guitar player on 534 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,300 there. Oh, okay, yeah. Well, when they brought Gary Sharon 535 00:32:12,300 --> 00:32:15,780 in, I think that actually kind of proves my point, that the 536 00:32:15,780 --> 00:32:19,380 fans were like, Okay, enough. Stop changing singers. 537 00:32:19,439 --> 00:32:24,619 Well, and on top of that, Eddie, on that album, played almost 538 00:32:24,619 --> 00:32:28,039 every instrument, like Alex is only playing on a couple of 539 00:32:28,039 --> 00:32:31,759 cuts. I don't think Michael Anthony's playing on much of any 540 00:32:31,759 --> 00:32:36,379 of that album. Eddie was doing everything, yeah, and that, 541 00:32:36,739 --> 00:32:41,799 that's why the and that, that piano piece they did at the end 542 00:32:42,699 --> 00:32:48,579 with Eddie singing lead and Gary Sharon trying to sing, yeah, 543 00:32:48,639 --> 00:32:53,139 what is called the harmony? Which was not good? Oh, it was 544 00:32:53,139 --> 00:32:55,299 awful. It was just pure awful. 545 00:32:55,659 --> 00:32:58,239 What are their what are their least? And I know we're at a Van 546 00:32:58,239 --> 00:33:01,319 Halen tangent here, yeah. I think one of the one of their 547 00:33:01,319 --> 00:33:04,499 most underrated songs as humans being, that was a good song. 548 00:33:05,460 --> 00:33:06,720 I even took my son to 549 00:33:07,980 --> 00:33:11,940 see Van Halen as bad as her Sharon album was. I mean, it 550 00:33:11,940 --> 00:33:15,300 wasn't totally all bad. There were some good cuts on it. It 551 00:33:15,300 --> 00:33:19,080 was a jump the shark album. It was, it was too, it was too off 552 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:23,060 the charts from what Van Alen was famous for, but the live 553 00:33:23,060 --> 00:33:27,260 show was phenomenal because Sharon was singing everything 554 00:33:27,620 --> 00:33:32,000 both both eras of the band. He could do it, and he did humans 555 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,140 being, and that was one of my son's favorite songs. And he was 556 00:33:36,140 --> 00:33:39,680 10 at the time, and I talked to his mother in to let me because 557 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,420 we were divorcing at the time, and I took him to the concert. 558 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,100 And this is my son at the concert. There were two girls in 559 00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:51,880 front of us that were, you know as rock shows are. These girls 560 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:56,440 are wearing what halter tops, and they're cute. And we're 561 00:33:56,500 --> 00:33:59,020 about halfway through the concert, and I get a tug on my 562 00:33:59,020 --> 00:34:04,440 shirt. I said, Yeah, buddy, what was he said, Dad, does this 563 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,920 happen in every concert, rock concert? And I said, pretty 564 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,180 much, we go back to listening. And couple songs later, I get 565 00:34:12,180 --> 00:34:18,360 the tug again. Can we go to Aerosmith? Speaking of that's 566 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,760 another band that went through a there was a point where Joe 567 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,360 Perry and Brad Whitford, both the guitar players from 568 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,620 Aerosmith, left. It was after they it was after they did draw 569 00:34:30,620 --> 00:34:35,240 the line that album did, didn't do much of anything, right? And 570 00:34:35,240 --> 00:34:38,720 then they, they had two different guitar players. Man, 571 00:34:38,720 --> 00:34:43,540 they sunk like a rock without Joe Perry, it was just the 572 00:34:43,540 --> 00:34:47,560 magic's gone. Yeah, because the magic was Steve Steven Tyler, 573 00:34:47,860 --> 00:34:48,640 Joe Perry. 574 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,260 But you know, a band that has managed to survive and still 575 00:34:53,260 --> 00:34:58,480 touring and has had a number of personnel changes due to various 576 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:03,780 reasons, the Eagles. Yes, yes. And, you know, I saw them the 577 00:35:03,780 --> 00:35:06,240 last time they were here in Nashville, you know, with Vince 578 00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:11,760 Gill. And he just, course, Vince is so, oh, he's so amazing, and 579 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,960 could sing and fit in with anything and play Yes, but he 580 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:23,360 sang a lot of the of the Glen fry vocals, if you will, and 581 00:35:23,420 --> 00:35:28,040 some of the Randy Beisner stuff and but, you know, they've had a 582 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,940 number of people lead, Don Felder, you know, left and 583 00:35:31,940 --> 00:35:36,200 whatnot, sure. But you know, as long as you have Don Henley and 584 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:41,200 Joe Walsh, well, in fact, that's Timothy B Schmidt, yeah, that, 585 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,900 you know, as we're talking about Chicago before. I mean, those, 586 00:35:43,900 --> 00:35:47,800 those guys, are still the essence of the Eagles well, 587 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:52,180 and when I got into the Eagles, I really didn't get into the 588 00:35:52,180 --> 00:35:55,300 Eagles when they first came out. You didn't like that country 589 00:35:55,300 --> 00:35:58,600 rock well, that thing, Bernie Lenton was their guitar player, 590 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,700 and it's when they got Joe Walsh, yeah, I thought now 591 00:36:02,700 --> 00:36:06,840 they've got an edge. I like it. And it wasn't that I didn't like 592 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:11,100 the earlier stuff, because I did like take it easy and some of 593 00:36:11,100 --> 00:36:16,020 those tunes, but I got more into them because I love Joe Walsh, 594 00:36:16,020 --> 00:36:20,220 and I thought he added so much to that band, yeah, and when 595 00:36:20,220 --> 00:36:25,640 they did the Hotel California with him and Felder doing the 596 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:30,380 twin guitars, my gosh, man, that was just that was 597 00:36:30,380 --> 00:36:33,620 nirvana. Yeah, I saw, I've seen them live a couple of times. The 598 00:36:33,620 --> 00:36:37,640 first time, when I was in college, they played LSU 1980 599 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,220 the long run tour. 600 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,300 Yes, the one they weren't getting along, yeah. But 601 00:36:44,980 --> 00:36:49,480 from a from a musicianship standpoint, I mean, I was just 602 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,860 totally blown away at how good those dudes, oh, you're not. 603 00:36:53,860 --> 00:36:56,680 Dudes were alive, especially, you know, 604 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:02,340 well, Don Henley singing while playing the drums, yeah, yeah. 605 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,960 And, and he, you know, and he's not a, he's not a crooner, you 606 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,260 know, he's a guy that, you know, he really lays it out there 607 00:37:10,260 --> 00:37:14,040 vocally, yeah? And to not be totally out of breath, you know, 608 00:37:14,340 --> 00:37:16,740 there's a, there's a skill to that. I mean, you know, he 609 00:37:16,740 --> 00:37:21,500 wasn't Karen Carpenter, you know, you know. And she was a 610 00:37:21,500 --> 00:37:23,960 fine drummer, you know, she is kind of underappreciated, but 611 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,420 you know, let's face it, you know, her vocals, you know, 612 00:37:26,420 --> 00:37:29,960 which were pristine and perfect, but still, anyway, so yeah, I 613 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,220 mean being, you know, the rock singer that Henley can be, oh 614 00:37:34,220 --> 00:37:37,820 yeah, and still play the drums, but you know, he, he gets out in 615 00:37:37,820 --> 00:37:40,900 front and plays the guitar a lot. Now, I know when they were 616 00:37:40,900 --> 00:37:43,780 just been a couple of years ago. Now, when Vince Gill was with 617 00:37:43,780 --> 00:37:47,740 him in town, he didn't play drums the whole, the whole show, 618 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:52,840 really, yeah, you know, he's in his 70s, you know, mid 70s now, 619 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,940 yeah, so, hey, I get it. 620 00:37:55,780 --> 00:37:58,540 Well, it's like Ringo Starr. We've talked about Ringo Starr 621 00:37:58,540 --> 00:38:02,340 on here, and I've heard, I've heard people, you know, 622 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:07,860 criticize Ringo is playing. And I don't get that because Ringo 623 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:13,020 really fit the Beatles. And that drum solo you hear, if you 624 00:38:13,020 --> 00:38:16,980 listen to the side too, of Abbey Road, there's a drum solo. A lot 625 00:38:16,980 --> 00:38:19,500 of people thought that was Paul. No, that's Ringo. 626 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,980 Well, that's he does. He does one in 627 00:38:23,060 --> 00:38:25,580 Oh, yeah, that's what I'm 628 00:38:25,700 --> 00:38:27,860 talking 629 00:38:27,860 --> 00:38:32,720 about. Yeah, it's tasteful. Oh, it's very well. Listen to his 630 00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:37,100 drumming on let it be. There are some fills in there that are 631 00:38:37,100 --> 00:38:39,080 just he. 632 00:38:39,140 --> 00:38:43,480 He really like people who throw shade at him. It's like guys, he 633 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,980 was a musical drummer. He is. I'd love to see like when they 634 00:38:47,980 --> 00:38:51,880 come around and they do the all star Yes, I so badly want to go 635 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,080 see it. I keep on missing them. 636 00:38:53,140 --> 00:38:55,000 I see I would too. I would love to go see 637 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,260 this. I 638 00:38:56,259 --> 00:39:01,199 have seen. Well, this was about 10 years ago. I saw Ringo in the 639 00:39:01,199 --> 00:39:07,019 All Star band in Atlantic City. And by far, and my wife agrees, 640 00:39:07,019 --> 00:39:09,899 it's the greatest show we've ever been to. It must be a lot 641 00:39:09,899 --> 00:39:17,459 of fun. It was. I mean, some of the band members the Gary Gosh, 642 00:39:17,459 --> 00:39:21,799 dream weaver, Gary Gary Wright, yeah, Gary Wright was part of 643 00:39:21,799 --> 00:39:27,619 the band. Luther Edgar Winter, wow, was part of the band, rock 644 00:39:27,619 --> 00:39:30,919 and roll. Hoochie COO, Rick Derringer, Rick Deringer. And of 645 00:39:30,919 --> 00:39:34,339 course, he sang that and absolutely ripped it up. Oh, I 646 00:39:34,339 --> 00:39:42,039 bet. And also, Richard page, the lead singer from Mr. Mister, 647 00:39:42,099 --> 00:39:46,539 yeah, and it's saying broken wing. And just, I mean, wow, it 648 00:39:46,539 --> 00:39:49,899 was fantastic. And of course, you know that what the cool 649 00:39:49,899 --> 00:39:53,259 thing about that is, all those guys got to do their songs, you 650 00:39:53,259 --> 00:39:57,519 know? And Ringo, he's just, I mean, have you ever seen an 80 651 00:39:57,519 --> 00:40:02,399 some odd year old man look more relaxed? And more just living 652 00:40:02,399 --> 00:40:04,619 life than ghost star having 653 00:40:04,620 --> 00:40:10,320 fun. Well, I liked his shot. I saw a video of Ringo, and it was 654 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:15,600 one of Paul's gigs, and they did helter skelter together. Oh my 655 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,800 gosh. I just thought I want to be there. That would be so fun 656 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,260 to watch these two together. 657 00:40:21,980 --> 00:40:24,740 Or what if they just combined with the stones? 658 00:40:25,700 --> 00:40:26,720 Well, they they, 659 00:40:27,860 --> 00:40:29,360 hasn't there been a 660 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:34,760 little perfect here, guys. Well, they did the stones last album, 661 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,960 the most recent one, they did acne diamonds. There's a great 662 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:43,960 cut on there that Paul McCarthy plays fuzz base on, and it is 663 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,560 fun. They sound like they're stones and Paul together, they 664 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,920 sound like a young punk band. You can't believe these are 80 665 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,680 year old men. Yeah, it's unbelievable. 666 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,080 But if there's any a band that's that's got permission to 667 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,540 interchange members, it's going to be the all star band. Oh, 668 00:40:58,540 --> 00:41:02,760 yeah. But if Ringo, you know, the event inevitabilities 669 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,580 happen, or whatever happens. He's the heart and soul of that 670 00:41:05,580 --> 00:41:09,120 man. Yes, he is. He cannot. It still be tough for that band to 671 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,620 keep on going. I think 672 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,220 I agree with you. I don't recall them doing and maybe I just 673 00:41:14,220 --> 00:41:17,160 don't remember, but, you know, they did a lot of Ringo stuff 674 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:21,380 photograph and, you know, but I don't recall them doing any 675 00:41:21,380 --> 00:41:25,880 Beatles stuff during the during the maybe they did, but, yeah, 676 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,240 it was just an absolutely fabulous show. Lot of fun. Oh, 677 00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:29,600 Toto 678 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,620 is another one that's been mixed up. A lot of Yes, of course, 679 00:41:33,620 --> 00:41:36,200 they've had members die. But does anybody really know what 680 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,900 the heart and soul? I don't think they do. I don't think 681 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,760 they do. They're kind of like a nerd band. Yeah, they are, yeah. 682 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,860 They really, Toto is kind of a nerd band. 683 00:41:45,820 --> 00:41:46,900 They're a yacht rock, yeah, 684 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:47,860 yeah, Duran, 685 00:41:47,860 --> 00:41:50,560 Duran. But, I mean, it's one of those things that they, 686 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,760 I mean, talk about some amazing songs they put out. You know, 687 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,180 they did. They were all just, they were music nerds, yeah, in 688 00:41:58,180 --> 00:41:59,440 the Luther you had the per Caro 689 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,940 brothers. I love lucather. I love hearing interviews with 690 00:42:02,940 --> 00:42:05,640 that guy. Yeah, he's the kind of guy I'd love to meet. 691 00:42:05,700 --> 00:42:08,880 Yeah, he'd be a good interview, a good, good hang, yeah? 692 00:42:09,420 --> 00:42:12,480 Because, I mean, he and EVH did a lot together as well. Yeah, 693 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:13,980 they did, you know, well. 694 00:42:13,980 --> 00:42:18,120 And thing I like about Luther is he seems like, he seems like a, 695 00:42:18,180 --> 00:42:20,840 you know, just a down to earth guy, guy you could have a beer 696 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:25,340 with, yep, you know. And no ego. I mean, I'm sure he's got an 697 00:42:25,340 --> 00:42:29,660 ego, but it's not overwhelming. Like, you know, I would look at 698 00:42:29,660 --> 00:42:32,000 David Lee Roth and think there'd be no way 699 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,420 of hanging out with this guy. He's got to be the center of 700 00:42:35,420 --> 00:42:36,080 attention. He's 701 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,400 too into Dave, 702 00:42:40,340 --> 00:42:45,460 you know, after Phil Collins left Genesis, I mean, they had a 703 00:42:45,460 --> 00:42:52,420 replacement singer, yeah, but, I mean, let's face it, Genesis was 704 00:42:52,420 --> 00:42:55,360 Phil Collins, Oh, yeah. And before him, there was Peter 705 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,220 Gabriel, yeah, exactly 706 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:58,000 before. I mean, 707 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:02,580 isn't it, isn't it heartbreaking to see Phil Collins now. Oh, it 708 00:43:02,580 --> 00:43:05,820 is, you know, that poor man is, you know, he was still 709 00:43:05,820 --> 00:43:11,640 performing, but, you know, sitting in a wheelchair, and now 710 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,260 he's not even able to do that. 711 00:43:13,259 --> 00:43:17,039 See, I hate seeing artists, and I've seen a couple, especially 712 00:43:17,039 --> 00:43:20,479 country artists, that are they should have parked the bus A 713 00:43:20,479 --> 00:43:26,059 long time ago. Yeah, CO was one of them. He was Johnny. Paycheck 714 00:43:26,059 --> 00:43:28,399 was one of them. Yeah, Johnny got to where he couldn't 715 00:43:28,399 --> 00:43:31,999 breathe. I know it. He would literally had his oxygen tanks 716 00:43:31,999 --> 00:43:34,939 on stage with him. Well, it's kind of like Ernest Tubb. Ernest 717 00:43:34,939 --> 00:43:38,179 tub was that way. It was really weird because I went to see 718 00:43:38,539 --> 00:43:42,939 Linda Ronstadt. This was in 1980 I did a gig in Birmingham, 719 00:43:42,939 --> 00:43:46,959 Alabama, up front and close Linda, no, I know it wasn't on 720 00:43:46,959 --> 00:43:50,319 the front row like the one girl suggested to me. I was up in the 721 00:43:50,319 --> 00:43:54,459 nose, believe. But I went to see Linda Ronstadt. Then two nights 722 00:43:54,459 --> 00:43:57,399 later, I went to this little club in Birmingham, outside 723 00:43:57,399 --> 00:44:00,899 Birmingham, and went to see Ernest Tubb. It was close to 724 00:44:01,079 --> 00:44:04,199 just before he died, and he couldn't breathe 725 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:06,900 well, much like paycheck, 726 00:44:06,900 --> 00:44:11,940 lifelong smoker, you know. And, yeah, good enough. Yeah, he used 727 00:44:11,940 --> 00:44:16,380 to play a lot of lot of little clubs around Baton Rouge all the 728 00:44:16,380 --> 00:44:20,060 time. And just Justin would be with him quite his son would be 729 00:44:20,060 --> 00:44:25,160 with him quite a bit, you know. And I will say this, there was 730 00:44:25,220 --> 00:44:29,660 nobody nicer than Ernest Tubb. I mean, what a genuine, nice, nice 731 00:44:29,660 --> 00:44:33,740 man, you know, Gary Gentry, you know when he was with us, yes, 732 00:44:33,980 --> 00:44:37,400 told, you know, the story about when he was little, how? Oh, 733 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,840 yeah, Ernest, Ernest Tubb sent him to Hank's house, to Hank's 734 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,780 house when he was 13 or 14 years old. Boy, 735 00:44:44,260 --> 00:44:47,980 someday, I've got to tell you guys the stories about my 736 00:44:47,980 --> 00:44:52,420 parent, my dad, my stepmother, bought Hank Williams house. And 737 00:44:52,420 --> 00:44:58,240 you talk about an interesting place. Oh my gosh, just it had 738 00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:02,340 this huge ballroom, and there was a. Bar, and it had this 739 00:45:02,340 --> 00:45:07,140 heart, and it said Williams, it was in red, and you could light 740 00:45:07,140 --> 00:45:12,480 it up. And it was so cool. And I found out later on that they 741 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,200 sold that to Randy Travis, really, and he put it in his 742 00:45:16,260 --> 00:45:17,580 house in Hawaii. 743 00:45:19,020 --> 00:45:21,860 I was heartbroken. You know, when we were I wanted that, when 744 00:45:21,860 --> 00:45:27,500 we were talking about singers that tried acting, yes, I 745 00:45:27,500 --> 00:45:33,920 actually stumbled across a video on social media yesterday. It 746 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:40,780 was an episode of Matlock and Randy Travis was, was a guest, 747 00:45:40,780 --> 00:45:46,780 really. And naturally he, you know, he sang a song, yes, but, 748 00:45:47,020 --> 00:45:49,300 and he wasn't bad. He knew pretty 749 00:45:49,299 --> 00:45:53,319 well. I saw him in some movie, and I was shocked at how good he 750 00:45:53,319 --> 00:45:55,179 was. I thought he was very good actor. 751 00:45:55,240 --> 00:45:59,860 And I think he was on the show with Roma Downey. What was that? 752 00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:04,980 Something Touched by an Angel. Yes, I think he had a friend of 753 00:46:04,980 --> 00:46:09,840 mine posted on after we aired, aired, after we put out that 754 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,760 episode of the podcast, she had commented that Randy Travis was 755 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,000 on that touch by an angel as well. But yeah, an episode of 756 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,800 Matlock, he did, did pretty 757 00:46:19,799 --> 00:46:24,319 well, well, and we also, we were talking about people that you 758 00:46:24,319 --> 00:46:27,859 know changed vocations. As far as you know, singers becoming 759 00:46:27,859 --> 00:46:34,519 actors. I had forgotten about Terry Bradshaw recording an 760 00:46:34,519 --> 00:46:35,599 album in Nashville. 761 00:46:35,660 --> 00:46:40,220 Yeah, Johnny Bench, yeah. You know, Hall of Fame baseball 762 00:46:40,220 --> 00:46:42,580 catcher. He too, was a singer. 763 00:46:43,060 --> 00:46:47,500 Well, I found a video, and I put it up on my Facebook. If you go 764 00:46:47,500 --> 00:46:52,180 there, you can see it. But Don Imus was playing Bradshaw's 765 00:46:52,180 --> 00:46:57,160 album on his show. Bradshaw was losing it. He said, quit playing 766 00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:02,340 my album. I think the song was, I want to say plastic Jesus, or 767 00:47:03,180 --> 00:47:06,060 I forget what the name was. I miss ripping them one oh, they 768 00:47:06,060 --> 00:47:09,000 were just having and Bradshaw was going, I'm losing my 769 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,120 friends, my dogs won't even have anything to do with me. He said, 770 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:16,560 There's a picture of a woman on the back of that she left me. I 771 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,980 know. I hope she dropped off a cliff somewhere. Quit playing 772 00:47:19,980 --> 00:47:22,460 the album. It was hilarious. That's funny. 773 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,180 It makes me think of jelly roll, you know, that you were talking 774 00:47:29,180 --> 00:47:31,940 about, you know, just discovering Randy Travis on 775 00:47:31,940 --> 00:47:34,460 Matlock. And, like, for some reason, like, because, of 776 00:47:34,460 --> 00:47:36,980 course, he had to play a song. And I'm like, they had Jelly 777 00:47:36,980 --> 00:47:40,660 Roll on an episode of Tulsa King. Yeah, they did, yeah, just 778 00:47:40,660 --> 00:47:43,960 randomly, oh yeah, just out of the blue. And it's like, they in 779 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:48,820 a store, like the whole scene is set in a cannabis store. Yes, 780 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:53,920 that has a recording studio in it. Anita, so happens to be 781 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,040 there. He's like, Oh, you know, he's played himself, yeah, and, 782 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,200 you know, so I goes up to him. He's like, Oh, I thought you 783 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:04,320 were the bouncer, Jelly Roll, man. You know, he goes, I'll be 784 00:48:04,380 --> 00:48:06,660 right back. I gotta go cut this track. I'm like, Yeah, cuz 785 00:48:06,660 --> 00:48:10,380 that's how it works. Yeah, they're calling me in, or you're 786 00:48:10,380 --> 00:48:13,380 all partying out here. I gotta go lay down a track of a song 787 00:48:13,380 --> 00:48:14,640 that's already been recorded 788 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,160 in a Weed Shop in Tulsa. 789 00:48:18,060 --> 00:48:22,280 I gotta hand it to Jelly Roll with the weight loss. Oh, yeah. 790 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,180 I mean, he's Eclair now. He's not even no longer Jelly 791 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,720 Roll. He's really, you know, I think he's dropped like 200 792 00:48:36,140 --> 00:48:40,220 pounds, yeah, you know. And for those of us that have, you know, 793 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,080 had tried to lose weight, you know, you really got to admire 794 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,320 that, whether he's using ozempic or what, you know, so what. But 795 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,680 yeah, it's amazing what a personal chef and a yeah, oh 796 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,400 yeah, personal trainer will do. Yes, this is true. You sound 797 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,820 like my wife. You know? It's like, yeah. Jane Seymour, I 798 00:48:57,820 --> 00:49:01,140 could look like that if I had personal trainers and all the 799 00:49:01,140 --> 00:49:02,160 money in the world, 800 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,380 we'll get there, Jay 801 00:49:12,060 --> 00:49:16,500 and all those folks that would like to be a part of our podcast 802 00:49:16,500 --> 00:49:21,080 by helping sponsor things. We are certainly open. Oh, we're 803 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,740 very open to that, open to discussing that. You know, we 804 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:30,200 got a nice, reasonable, we got a nice email yesterday, I copied 805 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:35,600 you on the response. The guy goes by the name hurricane, I 806 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:40,160 believe, yeah. And, you know, he sent us an email about how much 807 00:49:40,220 --> 00:49:44,800 he enjoys the podcast and stuff. And when he was especially 808 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,740 commenting the episode with Gary Gentry, and I know we keep 809 00:49:47,740 --> 00:49:50,440 bringing that up, because we've gotten such fabulous response, 810 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,700 oh yeah, because Gary is such a great storyteller. Yes, he is, 811 00:49:54,700 --> 00:49:59,680 but he had sent us along his version. He's also an artist in 812 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:04,260 a race. Radio guy. He had sent us links to his version of the 813 00:50:04,260 --> 00:50:09,360 ride. He had recorded the ride and actually said he was new 814 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,360 Gary from performing at some Hank Williams 815 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,600 events. Oh, yeah, down at the Hank Williams museum Museum, 816 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:16,200 yeah. 817 00:50:16,500 --> 00:50:20,160 But anyway, my point is, we love to hear from folks. Yes, we 818 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:25,160 know, whether it be through messaging on social media or 819 00:50:25,220 --> 00:50:28,520 email, podcast at circling the drain.net, 820 00:50:29,780 --> 00:50:31,520 is how you can get us an email 821 00:50:31,580 --> 00:50:35,120 and you can find us on Facebook. You can become a member there, 822 00:50:35,180 --> 00:50:37,580 yeah, yeah, follow us around. Yeah, 823 00:50:37,580 --> 00:50:40,600 we got over 600 of them, which ain't bad, considering we've 824 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:45,460 only been at this over 600 Yeah, yeah. Considering we've only 825 00:50:45,460 --> 00:50:49,420 been at this a few weeks, you know, so very, very happy at the 826 00:50:49,420 --> 00:50:49,960 support. 827 00:50:50,020 --> 00:50:53,920 Well, keep them coming and we've got more episodes on the way. We 828 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,340 got special guests coming your way. Very interesting people. 829 00:50:57,940 --> 00:51:03,960 More interesting than us, trust me, maybe a little bit, maybe a 830 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:08,400 little bit, but I appreciate you. Know, I couldn't ask for 831 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:14,100 two guys to do this with, better than you two. You two are just 832 00:51:14,100 --> 00:51:16,620 phenomenal to work with. Like, I mean, it's 833 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,680 been fun. It's been a lot of it's just gonna keep getting 834 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:20,340 funner, 835 00:51:20,339 --> 00:51:24,139 yeah, we'll get on her. And hopefully one day, you know, 836 00:51:24,139 --> 00:51:28,759 we'll all be so rich that we can lose weight like Eclair. I mean, 837 00:51:28,759 --> 00:51:29,179 jelly. 838 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:32,780 There is life after radio. 839 00:51:33,020 --> 00:51:36,260 Yes, there is. And you were the one that told me that, and you 840 00:51:36,260 --> 00:51:39,980 were exactly right, and we'll have more life after radio on 841 00:51:39,980 --> 00:51:42,040 the next episode of circling the drink you.