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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Good morning, good morning on a Monday talk

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<v Speaker 1>home do good morning, good morning to you and you

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<v Speaker 1>and you. I mean, has that ever happened.

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<v Speaker 2>That I don't believe? So I don't believe it has

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<v Speaker 2>You got all kinds of people going shop crests.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Monday, It's Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, well, hey, you just delighted us.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate Mondays.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, that might be that might be becoming everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>And now it's all downhill.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah here, Yeah, it's not gonna get better than that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a no sense of tuning in the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to say, wherever you're at, and whatever

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And if you want to like or subscribe to

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<v Speaker 1>I think we just crested a thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>On the YouTube. Yeah, on the YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the interweb.

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<v Speaker 2>Just go to www dot right. Yeah, okay, Well, we

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<v Speaker 2>have one of our favorite segments. Yeah, today is it's

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<v Speaker 2>the only segment that has uh a James song.

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<v Speaker 1>It does have a theme song. Yeah, I say jingle,

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<v Speaker 1>but I guess I guess theme song is.

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<v Speaker 2>Two words right, well jingle?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's called mail bad. There you go, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>mail bag? I did I did that last time?

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<v Speaker 2>Hit the high note.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's really good. Hey, ladies and gentlemen, don't ever

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<v Speaker 1>say Jeff doesn't say.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, just give you two words.

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<v Speaker 1>Here you go. Uh. Well, hey, this one here is

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<v Speaker 1>by Brandy n Hi Brandy, and we appreciate Brandy writing in.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, Hey Christian Jeff, thanks for everything you two

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<v Speaker 1>do for this podcast. You both have talked about who

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<v Speaker 1>would want Nope, you both have talked about who I think.

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<v Speaker 2>It was you would want.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it is a type of ye who you

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<v Speaker 1>would want to play yourselves in a movie. But my

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<v Speaker 1>question is if your life had a narrator, whose voice

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<v Speaker 1>would you want? And then a separate question, how much

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<v Speaker 1>would they roast you? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that'd be amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine if live if our lives had narrators.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that'd be awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he walks through the door. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>looking like a million bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>And you would you'd really truly be able to roast

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<v Speaker 1>somebody because oh, you'd be able to make fun of

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<v Speaker 1>them as they're sitting there like just not you look

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<v Speaker 1>with a scowl on his face. You're like, what you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about? I don't know, a scal on my face.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the life I live, I would be getting

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<v Speaker 2>roasted sixty percent of the time because that's how my family.

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<v Speaker 2>We love each other and we laugh all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's a lot of roasting going on. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so they're busting my chops all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I would say yeah, just as much for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I think so.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the second half. But the first one,

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<v Speaker 2>who would you use? Who would you have be a narrator?

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<v Speaker 1>I almost want to do Rock Paper Scissors, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think we might go ahead, we might say the same.

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<v Speaker 2>I doubt it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, well, for me, it has to be Morgan Frame.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew you were going to say Morgan Frame.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, is there a better voice.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got a great voice.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean everything that he does I heard him one

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<v Speaker 1>time narrate something for the Discovery Channel. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I have never found earthworms so exciting because he is

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he's the voice of God.

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<v Speaker 1>He is the voice of God. Yes, in Bruce Almighty

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<v Speaker 1>and Evan Almighty. But he's also the narrator in the

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<v Speaker 1>regarded as one of the best movies of all time,

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<v Speaker 2>Called Princess Bride.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I would say that is that is one of

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<v Speaker 1>as the best movie by IMDb is Shawshank Redemption.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, you've told me that before.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the only one that is actually a ten

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<v Speaker 1>out of ten. There may be another one, but that

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<v Speaker 1>one's that has the highest rating across the board Rotten

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was as soon as we read that. The

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<v Speaker 2>first person who came to my mind was Robin Williams

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<v Speaker 2>would probably be who would be assigned. He's dead though, yes, yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it does have to be a living person. Uh well,

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<v Speaker 2>because already not, I wouldn't be able to use like

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<v Speaker 2>James Earl Jones either. Yeah, he just died, so there's

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<v Speaker 2>some of those. Okay, but you know what I would

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<v Speaker 2>like in my head, so I feel like I would

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<v Speaker 2>get assigned Robin Williams okay, and it would just be

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<v Speaker 2>sound effects and trash talk.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be and it would be so random, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because he's here when I was back and forth a

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<v Speaker 1>little frenetic.

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<v Speaker 2>But in my mind, what I would want is Sam Elliott.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh right, that cowboy voice, that deep voice, just a

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<v Speaker 2>little put out everything kind of Wouldn't it be great?

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I want?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>So along those lines, though, if you blended I think

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<v Speaker 2>if you blended Sam Elliott and Robin Williams, so I

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<v Speaker 2>picked I picked a couple of guys that are no

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<v Speaker 1>Us, you can't blend those.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it would be. Matthew mcconnie is a blend

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<v Speaker 2>of those. Yeah, he's got the Texas accent like Sam Elliott,

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<v Speaker 2>but the frenetic, kind of weird, uh thought processes, philosophical.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to disagree with you that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that there's I don't think they're in the same

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<v Speaker 1>category just because he's Southern. I don't think it. Matthew

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<v Speaker 1>McConaughey is not Sam Elliott, samulit is everything he is, not.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure Okay, yeah, I think so. I think that they

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<v Speaker 2>sound a lot like what they do. Sam.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the old.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, their accent, you're thinking range, but their accent's almost identical.

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<v Speaker 2>They're from the same area.

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<v Speaker 1>The feeling I get when I listened to Matthew McConaughey

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<v Speaker 1>and when I listened to Sam Eliot is radically different.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. I wasn't saying that, Okay, I was saying if

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<v Speaker 2>you blended that, if you blended Robin Williams and Sam Elliott,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you get Matthew McConaughey slightly frenetic, a little

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<v Speaker 1>That problem Williams and Sam Eli he had a baby.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not what I was saying. But if you yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so anyways, yeah, it would be one of those three guys. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So if you have to pick a living people, I

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<v Speaker 2>would hope for Sam Elliott.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, yeah, but charitably that he's still alive. Actually yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I would. I would choose Morgan Freeman. Okay, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>great segment.

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<v Speaker 2>That was such a good one. Thank you, Brandy. Fun

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<v Speaker 2>nothing like starting off a Monday with us arguing about

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<v Speaker 2>movie stuff. I can't keep up with Czar ba on

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<v Speaker 2>the movie thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, not many people can.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what, I can't keep up with you

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<v Speaker 2>on the Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh what a transition. I love it. I get hang

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<v Speaker 1>with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can do my best. Yeah, I'm the other

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<v Speaker 2>Bible guy.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so good. Yeah. I was gonna say. The

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<v Speaker 1>only one other one on staff who's as big of

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<v Speaker 1>a movie nut is Chad.

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<v Speaker 2>Chad as our executive pastor.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, he's a pretty big movie nut. Every time

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<v Speaker 1>that I mentioned movies, he he claims. He claims that

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<v Speaker 1>most time when I'm guessing movies, he beats me.

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<v Speaker 2>He has a very quick mind. His memory is very fast. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I like, uh, yeah, I think I've seen that movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe tell me who's in it? Right? And he

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<v Speaker 2>but he plays close to things. So anyways, in we

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<v Speaker 2>are in uh do you love movies? Yes, well, we're

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<v Speaker 2>reading from the book of one of the books about

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<v Speaker 2>love in the Bible, and first John it's all about love.

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<v Speaker 1>What Wait, did you mean to ask me, do I

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<v Speaker 1>like romantic movies?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I asked you, do you love movies?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Oh? Love?

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just talking about love.

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<v Speaker 1>And okay, I was thinking of the of the subject.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to transition back to the Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing.

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<v Speaker 2>We got there and then you took his back to

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<v Speaker 2>the movies, and now we're trying to get back there again.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, how about this, Jeff. We're in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of a series talking about God's promises. Yes, every week

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<v Speaker 1>has had a theme, and we've had several weeks. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we've been in this, what five weeks?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's been a while.

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<v Speaker 1>And so this week is God's forgiveness and mercy. So

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<v Speaker 1>they're different promises, same topic, but different contexts. And so

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<v Speaker 1>today is that one of my favorite verses in the Bible?

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<v Speaker 1>Good special says that I know, but this says a

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<v Speaker 1>very special media.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, oh I remember. Yeah, yeah, Well this is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most famous verses in the Bible about

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<v Speaker 2>God's forgiveness of mercy. But I'm going to just read

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<v Speaker 2>the whole first chapter. I think it's not that long,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think. And first John, chapter one, verse one,

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<v Speaker 2>And let me just say, if you're new to the Bible,

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<v Speaker 2>there's the Gospel of John. Yeah, and then there's first John,

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<v Speaker 2>Second John, and third John. Because John is super original

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<v Speaker 2>in his in the naming of his books.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'll call this John again.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's funny because it's first John. We already have

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<v Speaker 2>a John, right, So there's the Gospel of John, and

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<v Speaker 2>then there's these three letters, First John, Second John, third John.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are letters. And then he also wrote the Book

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<v Speaker 2>of Revelations. So he wrote four books in the Bible,

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<v Speaker 2>four or five books in the Bible. Four of them

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<v Speaker 2>are named John.

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<v Speaker 1>He should have called it John's Revelation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, well, some people do call it that. So

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<v Speaker 2>here you go. It says in First John, chapter one,

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<v Speaker 2>we proclaim to you the one who existed from the beginning,

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<v Speaker 2>whom we have heard and seen. We saw him with

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<v Speaker 2>He is the Word of life. This one, who is

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<v Speaker 2>life itself, was revealed to us, and we have seen him.

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<v Speaker 2>We are writing these things so that you may fully

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<v Speaker 2>share our joy this is the message we heard from Jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>And now declare to you God is light and there

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<v Speaker 2>But if we are living in the light as God

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So this is the first of the three letters.

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<v Speaker 1>or Jesus and God and I love. How he says

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, It's so good, isn't it. And then he also says,

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<v Speaker 1>and the meaning was the word, and the word was

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<v Speaker 1>Paul was with Paul was an apostle at this time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was like one hundred and ten years old

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<v Speaker 2>So anyways, in this situation, John is very old but

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<v Speaker 2>he's saying, listen, I'm writing about the person that I

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<v Speaker 1>He said, touched him with me, he was with and

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<v Speaker 1>he's with the Father, right, and then he was with us, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and he went to heaven came back right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's pretty he's saying, I saw the God man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Now, do you think at this point, since we

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<v Speaker 2>No, not yet, because he was boiled in oil and

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<v Speaker 2>then sent to Patmos So when he didn't die when

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<v Speaker 2>him to the island Patmos. So this must have been

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<v Speaker 1>Yuck.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think he was all scarred up?

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<v Speaker 1>My word, there's a visual John the Revelat had mister

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, yeah, so he says, then he said, I've

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<v Speaker 2>I can connect with Jesus. And I'm just trying to

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<v Speaker 2>affirm your faith what you believe in. I knew him,

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<v Speaker 2>in him at all. And so you know, in John,

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<v Speaker 2>the world like a light, right, but men love darkness

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<v Speaker 2>rather than the light. And so he's contrasting the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that there's this universal battle between light and dark and

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know it's interesting how many different places

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<v Speaker 1>they talk about light and darkness, right, And so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he says, he said that he is the light of

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<v Speaker 1>the world. He also tells us in Matthew what is

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<v Speaker 1>it five, that we are the light of the world

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<v Speaker 1>right in the city that's set on a hill cannot

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<v Speaker 1>be hidden, right, so that our light shine before men.

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<v Speaker 1>And then here he's talking about being the light. And

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<v Speaker 1>then also in Matthew six, also says he talks about

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<v Speaker 1>the body. Right, he's talking about our perspective and how

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<v Speaker 1>right here he now here he's talking about having fellowship

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<v Speaker 1>with God, and fellowship of course he's talking about relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with God. Right, So if we have a good relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with God, meaning we're you know, in agreement with him,

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<v Speaker 1>we follow him, we're in communion with him. Uh, then

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll be filled with light meaning truth. Right. You

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<v Speaker 1>think light is truth? Light is what the truth of

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<v Speaker 1>is uh the answer right? The revelation perspective light Light's

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<v Speaker 2>says light represents what is good, pure, true, holy, and reliable.

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<v Speaker 2>Both darkness represents what is sinful and evil. See, you

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<v Speaker 1>Read that again. It represents what what is good, good.

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<v Speaker 2>Pure, pure, true, holy, and reliable.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And the statement that God is light means that

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<v Speaker 2>us the right path. His light clearly and truthfully exposes

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<v Speaker 2>our motives, whether good or bad. In the dark. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>in the dark, if you can see it, all different

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<v Speaker 2>objects look alike. In the light, good and evil can

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<v Speaker 2>be clearly distinguished. Just as darkness cannot exist in the

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<v Speaker 2>presence of light, sin cannot exist in the presence of

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<v Speaker 2>a holy God. If we want to be in relationship

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<v Speaker 2>with God, we must put aside our sinful ways of

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<v Speaker 2>thinking and living. We become hypocrites if we say we

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<v Speaker 2>belong to Him, but then go out and live only

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<v Speaker 2>for ourselves, with little thought of serving others. Christ will

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<v Speaker 1>You weren't here last week. I was here with Wesley,

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<v Speaker 1>you know we did. We did the platinum edition, so yea, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's big time, one above way above this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Our poor listeners have to stoop back down now that

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the regular edition. But anyway, you remember the Psalms

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<v Speaker 1>and the light into my path. We talked about how

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost as if they run away, right. And if

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<v Speaker 1>will be filled with darkness versus the light it is.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, think about the seasons of our lives. You

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<v Speaker 1>different things that represent darkness or that we even experience

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<v Speaker 1>practically in the dark. The light of Christ takes those

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just such great imagery.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the imagery light and dark. Did you know darkness

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<v Speaker 2>So a lot of people are fearful of the darkness.

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<v Speaker 2>dark represents in the Bible, and the reality is darkness

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<v Speaker 2>has no power. The only power it has is fear.

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<v Speaker 2>Right God choosing to represent light. Light is a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Light is actual energy, and so light is a thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and light always there's never time, it doesn't. Light always

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<v Speaker 2>even then that light, then there's light there. You just

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<v Speaker 2>But darkness always is repelled. You turn out a light

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<v Speaker 2>and darkness disappears. Darkness never overcomes the light. And this

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<v Speaker 2>So then it's in that context then that he says, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>don't go around keep practicing darkness. If you've been saved

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<v Speaker 2>by the light, don't keep going back and playing with

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<v Speaker 2>the darkness. And this was he wrote this little book

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I was just I was out of control.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, this was a couple of weeks ago, No.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, a couple of weeks after I start going

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<v Speaker 1>to oh, because fourteen years old. I was fourteen. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I h somebody had had actually written Luke six forty

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<v Speaker 1>six and put it underneath my windshield under window wiper.

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<v Speaker 1>They put Luke six four six, and uh, And I

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<v Speaker 1>remember going to the car with my brother and and

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<v Speaker 1>again I was just brand new to the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So I actually open up, you know, my windshield. I

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<v Speaker 1>looked at it and said Luke six four six, And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, who is Luke? And where's the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>his phone number?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I had no idea. I'm like, where's the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of his phone number? I'm like, this doesn't make any sense?

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? Which is, why do you call me lord? Lord?

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<v Speaker 1>And don't do the things which I say right, which

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even apply because I wasn't a Christian. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>the point is is that I always tell the story,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'll make it extremely quick. I usually don't tell this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm out of detail of it, but I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>this that I made a promise to God once it

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<v Speaker 1>became a Christian, I said, God, I promise I will

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<v Speaker 1>never do this thing again. And it's and it's unimportant

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<v Speaker 1>what the thing was. But I made a promise, I say, God,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I will never do this thing. I will

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<v Speaker 1>never do it again. But then I did it again,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I was nervous, and so at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of church, I went down to the altar because they

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<v Speaker 1>used to have alter calls, and I was crying and

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<v Speaker 1>and again I'd only been a Christian, like maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>month of this time, and I had come back to

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<v Speaker 1>my seat, and I was just really visibly upset. And

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<v Speaker 1>my wife, who was my girlfriend, I wasn't even dating her.

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<v Speaker 1>I was dating this other girl, so I wasn't even

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily even talking to her. And she was a friend,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, she wasn't just you know, a person

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<v Speaker 1>that I would often go to. But she wrote me

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<v Speaker 1>a letter. It was like four pages long, single space,

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<v Speaker 1>front and back back when people used to write letters

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<v Speaker 1>to one another.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>In this letter, she just tried to comfort me and

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<v Speaker 1>encourage me. And I talked her on the phone and said,

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<v Speaker 1>here's why I was upset. I don't know if God's

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<v Speaker 1>going to strike me. I don't know if he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>punish me. I don't know if he's gonna Like, I

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't know how God worked. So she read me

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<v Speaker 1>this letter, comforting me, telling me that's not how God works.

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<v Speaker 1>And at the end of the letter she quoted me

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<v Speaker 1>First John one to nine. But if we confess our sins,

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<v Speaker 1>he is faithful and just to forgive us all of

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<v Speaker 1>our sins and us from all on righteousness. And she says,

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<v Speaker 1>just remember. And I remember thinking at the time, where

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<v Speaker 1>in the world did she ever find that verse? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you ever see footloose? Where where she brings that verse

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<v Speaker 1>to him about David danced? And he goes, where did

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<v Speaker 1>you know how to find this? And she's a pastor's daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>and she goes, are you kidding me? Like this? That

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<v Speaker 1>was the scene. So I was, I was him, I

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<v Speaker 1>was Ran, I was I was Kevin Bacon in that moment,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, where did you find that? Like? That

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<v Speaker 1>verse fits perfectly to what I had told you, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's and so it meant the world to me at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. It made all the difference in the world

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<v Speaker 1>because I realized, oh, my goodness, God actually forgives me.

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<v Speaker 1>I was blown away believing for the first time that

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<v Speaker 1>God forgave me.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, it's powerful when somebody else got how God uses

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<v Speaker 2>people to come and say, hey, yeah, here's what God's

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<v Speaker 2>word says, right. So he uses the testimony of others

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<v Speaker 2>and he uses his word to bring us back in alignment.

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<v Speaker 2>So he says, here the two arguments that John is

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<v Speaker 2>trying to fight against is one, hey, you're just body anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>and your body is decaying, live it up, go crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's pushing back against that. You can't. You got

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<v Speaker 2>to walk in the light and not in the darkness.

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<v Speaker 2>Push back, fight against your flesh, and then if you stumble,

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<v Speaker 2>God will forgive you. The other side is there's no

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<v Speaker 2>hope for you. If you sin, you have to be

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<v Speaker 2>sin less. So there were some Christians walking around claiming, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I never sin anymore. I quit sinning. And so he

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<v Speaker 2>has to say, on the other side, listen, if you

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<v Speaker 2>claim you have no more sin, you're only feeling yourself

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<v Speaker 2>and not living in the truth. And then he ends

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<v Speaker 2>it with if we claim we've not sinned, we're calling

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<v Speaker 2>God a liar and showing that his word has no

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<v Speaker 2>place in our hearts. So there's the one side that says,

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<v Speaker 2>just do whatever you want to do. Oh well, and

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<v Speaker 2>he says you can't do that. That's not the right answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Fight against your flesh. And at the same time, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't claim you stopped sinning. That's not true either. You're

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<v Speaker 2>still a human. There's this spiritual battle between the light

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<v Speaker 2>and dark in your life. There's a spiritual battle between

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<v Speaker 2>the flesh and the desires of your flesh and the spirit.

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<v Speaker 2>And God is waging that war. So what he's saying

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<v Speaker 2>is the answer is not to pretend like you never sin,

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<v Speaker 2>or the answer is not just to indulge. The answer

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<v Speaker 2>is when you sin, run to God. Right, you run

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<v Speaker 2>back to God. You fall and you skin your knee,

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<v Speaker 2>you run to mama, right kind of thing, you fall,

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<v Speaker 2>you sin, you run back to God. That's the answer.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's faithful and he's just, So he's doing the

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<v Speaker 2>right thing. He's not just making an excuse. He's just.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's faithful, and he'll cleanse us. He'll forgive us

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<v Speaker 2>our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. And so

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<v Speaker 2>if wef have listeners that are listening today, going, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I messed up, Maybe God can never use me again.

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<v Speaker 2>This verse is proof. John splits the hair. He goes

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<v Speaker 2>right in between the two ideas and says, God's faithful

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<v Speaker 2>and just. It's all about him and you. It's all

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<v Speaker 2>about your relationship with him. It's not about you and

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<v Speaker 2>your relationship with sin. Walk away from sin, come back

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<v Speaker 2>to God.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great. Well, hey, that is our time, so we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see you tomorrow hopefully on the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys, h