Ryan D. Hurd talks with Dr. Kim Mascaro, a licensed therapist, professor, and author of Dreaming with the Earth-Mind. They discuss sacred activism: the practice of blending spiritual growth, dreamwork, and social and environmental justice. Kim shares how surviving the 2023 Maui wildfires deepened her commitment to ancestral recovery and dreamwork, and the two explore decolonizing dream practices, ancestral European medicine traditions, and their shared experiences visiting Paleolithic caves in Southern France.
In this episode, the conversation takes us into:
- Sacred Activism – how it differs from activism rooted in anger or shadow
- The Maui Wildfires – Kim's firsthand account of the 2023 fires on Maui, and how the tragedy reshaped her activism and dreamwork
- Decolonizing Lucid Dreaming – A critique of Western, individualistic approaches to lucid dreaming, and a call to reconnect dreamwork with spiritual depth
- Recovering Indigenous European Medicine Ways – Kim's journey reconnecting with her Italian and Irish ancestry, as well as the deep wisdom of the Paleolithic caves in Southern France
- Dreams as a Path to Collective Healing – Kim and Ryan swap ancestral dreams, illustrating how dreamwork nourishes both individual and collective wellbeing
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About the host: Ryan D. Hurd is a dream researcher, author, and holistic educator. The Dream Studies Podcast explores dreams, consciousness, and the imagination, bridging 21st century science with intuitive ways of knowing. More to explore at
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