30: chessfeels bookclub pops off (Under the Surface by Jan Markos)

Julia and JJ talk about one of their favorite chess books, as well as what makes a good chess book and how to read a chess book.

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What is chessfeels: conversations about chess, psychology & mental health?

chessfeels is a weekly podcast about chess culture, improvement, and psychology from chess teacher JJ Lang and therapist Julia Rios. Tune in for irreverent conversations about this game we're all obsessed with.