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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Hey, everybody, happy Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, top of the morning to you in the morning

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<v Speaker 2>to you, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that Scottish or Irish?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's Irish. Well that was the best Irish

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<v Speaker 2>accent I can do. That was an actual attempt at

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<v Speaker 2>a No, it wasn't. I was just saying top of

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<v Speaker 2>the morning to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I could actually do one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't even think. Yeah, but did you know

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<v Speaker 2>I just found out I'm Irish. This is my second

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<v Speaker 2>saint Patti's day as an Irishman.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's not true.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it is for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well it's the second one that you were aware that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up my whole life thinking I was finished,

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<v Speaker 2>and it turns out all of our people came I'm

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<v Speaker 2>all Scot's, Irish and Welsh.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and partly Swiss.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I am German and Italian?

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<v Speaker 2>Really, yes, I never saw that coming. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm like fifty percent Italian and like forty eight

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<v Speaker 1>percent German and two percent French.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. We yeah, just a little bit well, there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is a special day for me personally. It's

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<v Speaker 2>all I'm saying. St.

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick's St.

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<v Speaker 2>Patty's Day.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I can go to the bars and no, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Not that guy. Yeah, not that guy. So today our

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<v Speaker 2>segment from Dez says, let's ask Chat GPTY is now

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<v Speaker 2>Chat GPT loves you. You know that, right? AI loves

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<v Speaker 2>you and they never lie to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Have you are you aware that sometimes AI hallucinates

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<v Speaker 2>it makes stuff up? What do you mean? Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not always true. It'll make stuff up if it can't

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<v Speaker 2>find the answer for real. Yeah, it doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>give you a wrong answer, So does make stuff up,

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<v Speaker 2>So you got to verify everything it says.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, well, that's disappointing.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're going to start rewriting your messages.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I've never used a chat GPT in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So anyways, here's what does said. It says it's

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<v Speaker 2>Saint Patrick's Day. So let's ask chat GPT funny questions

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<v Speaker 2>about Saint Patrick's Day and pick some of your favorites

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<v Speaker 2>to share with us. So, just before you walked in

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<v Speaker 2>the studio, Yes, I asked Chat TPT, tell me some

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<v Speaker 2>things I don't know about Saint Patrick's day amaze me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And it said here are some fascinating and lesser known

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<v Speaker 2>facts about Saint Patrick's day that just might surprise you.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, and this is the most scandalous Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Saint Patrick wasn't Irish? What? And I looked it up

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<v Speaker 2>because I didn't believe it really. Yeah, despite being the

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<v Speaker 2>patron saint of Ireland, Saint Patrick was actually born in

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<v Speaker 2>Rome and Britain, possibly Scotland or Wales. So me and

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<v Speaker 2>Saint Patrick are just the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Scott's Irish and Welsh. Wow, that's what I am.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're the same. But it's all about you, Jeff, Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>It should be Sat Jeffrey's day, that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Any Yeah, Jeff's and Pat's day.

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<v Speaker 2>He was born around three eighty five AD. He was

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<v Speaker 2>kidnapped by Irish pirates wow at the age of sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>and taken to Ireland as a slave. What. After escaping,

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<v Speaker 2>he later returned as a missionary to convert the Irish

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<v Speaker 2>to Christianity.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>That blew my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>In honor of his efforts to convert people to Christianity, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>people get slashed.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently, yeah, apparently. Well did you know here's another one.

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<v Speaker 2>This is amazing. Saint Patrick's Day was originally a dry holiday.

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<v Speaker 2>No alcohol come so what it says? Ironically, Ireland once

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<v Speaker 2>banned alcohol sales on Saint Patrick's Day because it was

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<v Speaker 2>a religious holiday, and pubs were closed nationwide until nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>seventy wow, when the holiday was reclassified as a national festival,

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<v Speaker 2>because you can get sladged at festivals but not religious holidays.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically, when you and I were born, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>before our time, it was a dry holiday. Yes, it

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<v Speaker 1>was probably a dry day. I mean think about it, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what else is there to do in the middle of March?

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<v Speaker 2>Right if you live up north? All right, now, what

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<v Speaker 2>are the foods? What are the foods you're supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>eat on Saint Patrick's Day?

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<v Speaker 1>Irish?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Goodness, so be like what like isn't Irish? Like? More

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<v Speaker 1>more like actually, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's corn beef and cabbage. Corn beef and cabbage, which

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<v Speaker 2>is supposed to have But that's the go to Saint

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick's Day meal in America, but it's not the traditional

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<v Speaker 2>Irish food. In Ireland, the dish is usually bacon, and cabbage.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but Irish immigants in the US substituted corn beef

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<v Speaker 2>because it was cheaper and more readily available.

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<v Speaker 1>Holy cow, isn't that something?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? That was amazing? And then what was the other one?

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<v Speaker 2>Leprechauns were originally evil? I didn't know that one.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I did know that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're bad guys, their tricksters or even malevolent creatures,

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<v Speaker 2>not the jolly figures on cereal boxes. And blue was

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<v Speaker 2>the original color, not green.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, now that's going too far, jeff, I, I.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, come on. Originally, Saint Patrick was associated with

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<v Speaker 2>the color blue because it appeared on ancient Irish flags

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<v Speaker 2>in the royal courts roads.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't die the river blue in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't until that I got one about that. What okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Hang on. It wasn't until the eighteenth century, when Ireland's

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<v Speaker 2>fight for independence used the green shamrock as a symbol,

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<v Speaker 2>that green became associated with the holiday. Come on, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not lying. It says it rre but die the river green.

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<v Speaker 2>Every year Chicago dies the Chicago River green. Everybody knows that, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>but few people know that the tradition didn't begin until

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty two. As an accident, a group of plumbers

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<v Speaker 2>used a special dye to check for illegal pollution in

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<v Speaker 2>the water system. When they realized that turned bright green,

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<v Speaker 2>the city adopted it for the holiday.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my goodness, isn't it amazing? So it was a

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<v Speaker 3>plumbing accident, that's amazing. And then here's the last one,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is the glorious one. More people of Irish

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<v Speaker 3>descent live in the US than in Ireland.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So it says there's about four point nine people

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<v Speaker 2>living in Ireland today, but over thirty two million Americans

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<v Speaker 2>claim Irish ancestry. Oh isn't that amazing?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean four point nine million people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this just said four point nine million.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you said four point nine people. I was like

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<v Speaker 4>four point nine million people. Yeah, almost five people. There's

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<v Speaker 4>almost almost five people. Yeah, four point nine million people.

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<v Speaker 4>Now there's over thirty two million in Americans who claim

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<v Speaker 4>Irish ancestry. So that's over six times the population of Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The Irish diaspora spread largely due to the Great

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<v Speaker 2>Famine in the eighteen forties.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, my wife is Irish, is she? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why she's so nice.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes my kids Irish. But I have no part

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<v Speaker 1>of that corn beef and cabbage. I couldn't believe. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe. I didn't think of that when I was

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<v Speaker 1>in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you were still hung up on the alcohol side of.

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<v Speaker 1>It, the slashing party.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I actually have a horrible story where somebody asked

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<v Speaker 1>me to come and like like pray at at a

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<v Speaker 1>at a thing, and I thought it was a legitimate prayer.

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<v Speaker 1>Come to find out it was a Saint Patty's like

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<v Speaker 1>like slosh kickoff or something. Oh no, it was a terrible,

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<v Speaker 1>terrible experience. In fact, Jeff, I won't tell you about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm just going to tell you this.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, I can tell me about it, But let me

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<v Speaker 5>tell you something I'll just make. I'll just make the

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<v Speaker 5>one this statement. It's a statement about it. Yes, and

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<v Speaker 5>my family knows this story. Yeah, it's in my thirty

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<v Speaker 5>what is it, thirty three years we've been pastors. I

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<v Speaker 5>have never had a worse ministry experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's a that's a statement. That's a big statement. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was actually like I got confused. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>what I was doing. Somebody asked me to do something

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<v Speaker 1>it was a favor when I showed up and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, this is horrible. Anyway, that was it was,

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<v Speaker 1>it was so it's it's like triggered. It's connected to

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<v Speaker 1>these triggered memories.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm telling you there's some amazing things. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>want to hear one more surprising one?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure?

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<v Speaker 2>I got one more. There were no snakes in Ireland

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<v Speaker 2>for Saint Patrick to banish, but there were no snakes

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<v Speaker 2>on the on the island at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure I was aware of the snake history.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, the great one of the great things stories

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<v Speaker 2>about Saint Patrick is that he banished all the snakes

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<v Speaker 2>from island because there are no snakes in Ireland now,

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<v Speaker 2>so he ran them off. But it's not true.

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<v Speaker 1>There was himself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but there weren't any snakes.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I think that that's silly to begin with.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was just a legend.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not shocked about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, faoughly unimpressed on that one. Yeah, okay, Well, hey

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<v Speaker 2>I have one more question. Yeah, I didn't wear green today,

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<v Speaker 2>but are my eyes green or blue? In the light today?

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<v Speaker 2>They look more blue, more blue? Okay, Sometimes they're blue,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes they're green. So I'm on both sides of that.

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<v Speaker 2>The blue flag originally in the green later maybe that's

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<v Speaker 2>what it is, because my eyes go back and forth.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of Irish people are blueish, sometimes greenish sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>with their eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Speaking of all that brand new information about

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Patti's day, huh, we're kicking off into a brand

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<v Speaker 1>new book today, the Book of Isaiah.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the best good Jobsba.

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<v Speaker 1>We're welcome, good jobszarba.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're jumping out of first and second kings, right, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we did Amos and then from there what we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>do is there's all these little statements Jerreboeam his reign

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<v Speaker 2>ended in Israel, and then this guy named Zachariah became

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<v Speaker 2>the king, and then he was only there for a

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<v Speaker 2>little while. And then Shallam rules in Israel, and then

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<v Speaker 2>manae Him rules in Israel, and then a guy named

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<v Speaker 2>pekka Ayah rules in Israel, and then Peka follows Pecca

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<v Speaker 2>Ayah in Israel. Then it's all done.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thanks for that.

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<v Speaker 2>So each of those is just like a minute or two.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like a year or two reign. They didn't do

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<v Speaker 2>a ton. And then finally we get to Isaiah we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna read Isaiah chapter six.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason why we're bouncing around is keep in mind,

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing highlights of the Old Testament in this series,

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is Isaiah overlapping second Kings and this is

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. Good job. Yeah. And Isaiah is a prophet,

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<v Speaker 2>and it says this, it was in chapter six. It

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<v Speaker 2>the Lord, and he was sitting on a lofty throne,

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<v Speaker 2>and the train of his robe filled the temple. Attending

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<v Speaker 2>him were mighty seraphim, each having six wings, with two wings.

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<v Speaker 2>each other. Holy, Holy, Holy, is the Lord of Heaven's armies.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole earth is filled with his glory. And their

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<v Speaker 2>voices shook the temple to its foundations, and the entire

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<v Speaker 2>building was filled with smoke. And then I said, it's

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<v Speaker 2>all over. I'm doomed, for I am a sinful man.

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<v Speaker 2>touched my lips with it, and he said this, see

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<v Speaker 2>this coal has touched your lips. Now your guilt is removed,

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<v Speaker 2>and your sins are forgiven. And then I heard the

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<v Speaker 2>Lord asking whom should I send as a messenger to

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<v Speaker 2>this people who will go for us? I said, here,

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<v Speaker 2>I am send me, And he said, yes, go and

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<v Speaker 2>say to this people, listen carefully, but do not understand.

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<v Speaker 2>Watch closely, but learn nothing hard in the hearts of

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<v Speaker 2>these people. Plug their ears and shut their eyes. That

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<v Speaker 2>way they will not see with their eyes, nor hear

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<v Speaker 2>with their ears, nor understand what their hearts, and turn

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<v Speaker 2>to me for healing. And I said, Lord, how long

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<v Speaker 2>will this go on? And he replied, until their towns

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<v Speaker 2>are empty and their houses are deserted, and the old

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<v Speaker 2>country is a wasteland, until the Lord has sent everyone away,

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<v Speaker 2>and the entire land of israelies deserted. If even a

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<v Speaker 2>tenth the remnants survive, it'll be invaded again and burned.

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<v Speaker 2>But as a terra binth or oak tree leaves the

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<v Speaker 2>stump when it's cut down, so israel stump will be

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<v Speaker 2>a holy seed. Ooh, well that's some judgment there, buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a very very famous passage. Yes, and probably

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most dramatic visions I would say that

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<v Speaker 1>anybody has ever had ever Yeah, right, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's one of my favorite visions or experiences with God,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, told in the Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I can't even imagine. I mean, Isaiah is

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<v Speaker 1>even imagine. Can we start off by talking about angels,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do it so it says attending him, we're mighty seraphim,

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<v Speaker 1>each having six wings. Have you ever seen I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen this in culture where it says like what

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<v Speaker 1>people think angels look like versus what angels really look like. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and some of the pictures of angels are terrifying. Where

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<v Speaker 1>did you ever see them where there's eyeballs on their wings?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, where it's like it's like angels are

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<v Speaker 1>actually not like they're they're intimidating. If you if you

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<v Speaker 1>They are not fluffy, happy, go lucky creatures. And I

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<v Speaker 1>always say this, but I think that, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>culture is obviously often dictated by Hollywood and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously books and things like that, and somewhere along

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<v Speaker 1>the way in the nineteen thirties, people thought people adopted

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that every time a bell rings, the angel

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<v Speaker 1>gets his wings. And the idea is like, hey, we

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<v Speaker 1>all die one day and then we earn our wings, and.

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<v Speaker 2>So you see this, We've got news. Grandma is not

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<v Speaker 2>an angel, right, that is exactly right.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, this this is depicted. And even

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<v Speaker 1>like in cartoons, you know, where it's like somebody it'll

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<v Speaker 1>you know, somebody will like bugs bunny will.

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<v Speaker 2>Die by the bus hit by suddenly they're floating up

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<v Speaker 2>as an angel.

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<v Speaker 1>And you get their harp and their halo, their wings

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<v Speaker 1>or Elmer Fudd you know, he left. And it's just

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<v Speaker 1>like it's in culture everywhere that somehow, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>they say, well God needed an angel, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he you know, blah blah blah, and and

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<v Speaker 1>and then and then people. People just somehow believe that

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<v Speaker 1>humans become angels. But the Bible is extremely clear he

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<v Speaker 1>goes out of his weight. Isn't it to say that

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<v Speaker 1>that that that mankind is not.

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<v Speaker 2>Unless unless Grandma had six wings to covering her face

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<v Speaker 2>and to covering her body and to to fly with.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's not an angel, right exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're distinct different creatures right all together. And then

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<v Speaker 2>within the angels there seems to be a couple, right,

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<v Speaker 2>there's the seraphim and the Cherubim. This word sarah comes

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<v Speaker 2>from the word that means to burn, burning, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>it probably has to do with this passage that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he uh purified Isaiah with fire.

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<v Speaker 1>So, by the way, because some of the actual depictions

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<v Speaker 1>of angels are so terrifying, it's no wonder why the

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<v Speaker 1>angels had to say fear not every time an angel.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you ever notice every time an angel shows up,

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<v Speaker 1>it says, don't be afraid.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so it's like.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine that you were confronted with a terrifying looking angel

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<v Speaker 1>with eyeballs on its wings, and and it just and

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<v Speaker 1>it just had this unbelievably majestic and intimidating look about it.

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<v Speaker 1>With you know, six wings and flaming swords and such.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you would you would probably be terrified on

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<v Speaker 1>the get go anyway, So.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of the time, when like when Joshua saw an angel,

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<v Speaker 2>others when they see they see men. Yes, right, So

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<v Speaker 2>so the the angels seem to be able to present

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<v Speaker 2>themselves as a man. Yeah, a lot when he saw

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<v Speaker 2>the angels, when when Abraham Elijah, yeah, Elijah, they see

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<v Speaker 2>them as as men. And even then they're terrifying. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's something to that, uh. In this situation. These are

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<v Speaker 2>the angels that seemed to be flying around the Throne

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<v Speaker 2>of Heaven for one, which I love. So let's go

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<v Speaker 2>back just a little bit before we get there. It

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<v Speaker 2>says in the year King Uziah died, I saw the Lord.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is a very profound thing I think for Isaiah.

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<v Speaker 2>Isaiah's vision is I think upsetting to him a little bit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Usiah was a good guy mostly right, Most of what

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<v Speaker 2>he did was really good. And then remember he goes

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<v Speaker 2>in and sacrifices in the temple or whatever and does

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<v Speaker 2>this thing there and then God goes come on man

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<v Speaker 2>and he winds up dying.

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<v Speaker 1>So because he had leprosy, right, yeah, Hey, he was

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<v Speaker 1>cursed with leprosy to the day he died, right because

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<v Speaker 1>he was trying to take on the priestly duties.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. So he was. He was a good guy.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that so Judah. Remember I mentioned all

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<v Speaker 2>those other kings in Israel. Judah and Israel were separated,

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<v Speaker 2>and Judah was still more prosperous and had had some

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<v Speaker 2>bad leadership for while. But Yusaiah comes in, he does

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<v Speaker 2>a great job for the most part. I think the prophets,

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<v Speaker 2>there were so many prophets in those days, remember, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think the prophets were like, good, thank God, We've

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<v Speaker 2>got this good, godly leader. And then Usiah dies and

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<v Speaker 2>you can imagine then how uncertain and unsettling it is

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<v Speaker 2>when you have an uncertainty with regard to who's the

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<v Speaker 2>leader going to be next and are they going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a good king or a bad king? Just think

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<v Speaker 2>of how unstable things get every election cycle with here

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<v Speaker 2>in the US, right right with and we have a

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<v Speaker 2>limited powered leader in our in our nation. Whereas in

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<v Speaker 2>those countries and those times, the king, if you had

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<v Speaker 2>a good king, things were going to be amazing. If

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<v Speaker 2>hell for everybody. Right, that's it's literally he had absolute

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<v Speaker 2>total authority. And so Usiah dies and there's there's some

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<v Speaker 2>sadness in this, and it's in that context that he

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<v Speaker 2>sees God. You're right, he has this vision of God,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that there's probably it's you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you read between the lines, this is God stepping into

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<v Speaker 2>Isaiah's life, going, hey, I've always been the one in charge. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>You read Romans thirteen and God says that there is

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<v Speaker 2>no power that exists that he didn't establish. And then

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<v Speaker 2>he says, hey, I'm on the throne, and just the

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<v Speaker 2>train of my robe fills the whole temple. And then

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<v Speaker 2>he has this really amazing vision of the angels flying

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<v Speaker 2>around the seraphim, six winged creatures flying around the throne,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're singing worship songs. Holy, Holy, Holy is the

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<v Speaker 2>Lord God Almighty. Right, the whole earth is filled with

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<v Speaker 2>his glory. We sing that song in church sometimes, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Tomlin and what's his name helped put those together,

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<v Speaker 2>and I love it. You want to know how loud

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<v Speaker 2>they sang. They sang so loudly that they shook the

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<v Speaker 2>temple to its foundations. And that's some volume. And then

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<v Speaker 2>the building was filled with smoke. They had a smoke machine,

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<v Speaker 2>and so as loud and smoky, and they're singing Holy, Holy, Holy,

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<v Speaker 2>as the Lord of Heaven's armies. And he says his

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<v Speaker 2>immediate response when he has a view of God is

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a sinner.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm unworthy right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that that is even today, it's an

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<v Speaker 2>appropriate response repentance. When we haven't encounter with God, repentance

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<v Speaker 2>should come immediately. A lot of times we go, well,

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<v Speaker 2>at least we're not as bad as sinners as other people.

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<v Speaker 2>In reality, when we're confronted with the holiness of God

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<v Speaker 2>and the glory of God, one of the first things

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<v Speaker 2>is we don't deserve to be in his presence. And

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<v Speaker 2>then what does he do. He sends an angel to

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<v Speaker 2>come and give him this purifying thing. That's what Jesus did,

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<v Speaker 2>is he purifies us. He makes it where we can

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<v Speaker 2>be in front of God. And so God goes, so, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I got this project I need to work on. Who

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<v Speaker 2>am I going to send Isaiah? And I love it?

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<v Speaker 2>And God goes, hey, good idea, I'll send you. Go

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<v Speaker 2>tell the people there's some bad news coming right right, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And I love the volunteering, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Posture of Isaiah of saying I'm a I'm a sinful man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm undone, and then he gets purified and then uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he says, here I am send me. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a very common you know, this is a

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<v Speaker 2>Right here, I am sent me.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's who said that?

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<v Speaker 2>Samuel?

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<v Speaker 1>Samuel said here I am said me? Was it Abraham?

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<v Speaker 1>Abraham said here I am sent me.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Samuel would be the other strong one. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Samuel and Isaiah.

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<v Speaker 1>But but it's just the idea of of like, hey, hey, God,

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<v Speaker 1>if nobody else will go, I'll go. And uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just I love that idea, right even in Romans,

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<v Speaker 1>right it says who will go? Right? Who who will

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<v Speaker 1>actually go? Jesus said, you know, uh, pray that he'll

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<v Speaker 1>send workers into the harvest. Right. It's just this idea

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<v Speaker 1>of like, hey, let's let's all be the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>are just available to say here I am. And so

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<v Speaker 1>just the posture of Isaiah here is a model for

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<v Speaker 1>all of us, I think, you know. And then of

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<v Speaker 1>course he's only made worthy by the cleansing right.

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<v Speaker 2>The cleansing which is for us is to cross right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what makes it possible to for us to be worthy.

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<v Speaker 2>So in this situation, God says, there is no other

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<v Speaker 2>detail other than there's a mission and I need a messenger.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. He doesn't tell any of the details, any

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<v Speaker 2>of the danger, any of the advantages. He doesn't say

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<v Speaker 2>this is the message I needed to do. He just says,

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<v Speaker 2>who will go? And Isaiah goes, oh, I'll go, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>do it. And I think that there's something too that that.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of times many of us feel like, one,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not qualified. Well neither was Isaiah. Two we want

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<v Speaker 2>to find out every detail before we tell God yes

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<v Speaker 2>to something. But the great blessing and the reason why

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<v Speaker 2>you and I are still talking about Isaiah and Isaiah

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<v Speaker 2>says some of the most profound things about Jesus of

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<v Speaker 2>anybody in the Old Testament. Right, God used Isaiah literally

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<v Speaker 2>to change history. And he's not saying, okay, God, I'm interested,

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<v Speaker 2>tell me more right. He just says, yes, explain everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>And a lot of times I think we miss out

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<v Speaker 2>on a great blessing because when we get that nudge

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<v Speaker 2>from God, we want more information before we take this

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<v Speaker 2>than the next step, as opposed to the adventure always

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<v Speaker 2>happens with a yes. Adventure never begins with a no. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>And so he says, yes, I'll go, and so God says,

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<v Speaker 2>then go and tell these people. And I've said this

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<v Speaker 2>before on this podcast. I don't know that I ever

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<v Speaker 2>had this earth shaking moment where you know, lightning crashed

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<v Speaker 2>from heaven and the sweats broke out and I was

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<v Speaker 2>white knuckling it and God just overwhelmed me with his

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<v Speaker 2>spirit and I couldn't stop crying, and he called me

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<v Speaker 2>to ministry. You know, I never had like this amazing,

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<v Speaker 2>a little dramatic, but okay, yeah, Well there's people who

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<v Speaker 2>will tell you that that's the kind of and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not denying that that's what they had. But they had

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<v Speaker 2>this Chakaina glory kind of moment with God and God

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<v Speaker 2>called them into ministry, like Isaiah, Yeah, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have that I saw Angels around the Throne

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<v Speaker 2>kind of call.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you've been around people who've had that that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a call, or that definitive moment when somebody

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<v Speaker 2>preached a message and they knew that message was just

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<v Speaker 2>for them, and they surrendered to the ministry.

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<v Speaker 1>That's me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't even have that. Yeah, I have a

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<v Speaker 2>very I had a very strong sense at some point

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<v Speaker 2>I really wanted to serve God. And so I kept

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<v Speaker 2>talking to my to the pastors and to my spiritual

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<v Speaker 2>mentors above me and out in front of me, saying,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to serve in ministry, but I've never had

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<v Speaker 2>a call. And so finally I had one of the

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<v Speaker 2>guys say, just volunteer, and God'll stop you if he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't want you to. And here I am thirty, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>year decades later, this is probably forty something years later

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<v Speaker 2>now from that conversation where I just I have the

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<v Speaker 2>here am I send me story? I don't have the

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the temple was filled with the train to

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<v Speaker 2>God's glory, right, I don't have that, or the angels

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<v Speaker 2>sing around heaven or whatever. I don't have that moment.

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<v Speaker 2>So you have a preaching moment, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is far less dramatic than you know, the glory moment,

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<v Speaker 1>but still.

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<v Speaker 2>The holy spirit moment of somebody preached a message and

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<v Speaker 2>in that message you said, that's for me, and I surrendered.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and all of that, but it's the last thing

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to do. Me too, I did not want

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<v Speaker 1>to go in the ministry. In fact, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>are you serious? God? You know it was Actually it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a celebratory thing for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was willing to do the music side of it, right,

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<v Speaker 2>that was my background, but I didn't I didn't ever

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<v Speaker 2>want to be a pastor, right per se. So so

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of people miss out on really

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<v Speaker 2>great ministry because they're waiting for that earth shattering moment.

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<v Speaker 2>But the reality is, it wasn't the earth shattering moment.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the after he had been cleansed. He just

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<v Speaker 2>said I'll go. Yep, right, that was it. He just

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<v Speaker 2>he just said I'll go. And so I think, whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's a a friend that's not a believer, or a

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<v Speaker 2>family member or whatever, you don't have to wait for

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<v Speaker 2>God to do some kind of supernatural miracle to empower you.

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<v Speaker 2>You've already been empowered, you've been forgiven, you've already been

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<v Speaker 2>empowered with the Holy Spirit. Just volunteer to go and

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<v Speaker 2>see if God doesn't use you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great word and that is our time. So man,

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<v Speaker 1>what a great passage and hopefully we'll pick up tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>and you'll join us on the Bible Guys