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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Good morning, morning, we talk through. Good morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning to you and you and you man. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>good morning everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's only the second day of this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I forget it might not shake it up a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, I'm pretty well to it. I'm feeling wild, get

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<v Speaker 2>right to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, wild cherry Life Savers?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you No?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even like Life Savers really I used to

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<v Speaker 1>as a kid. I'm not a candy person.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's right. You aren't a candy person.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which which is why we're friends. Yeah, right, because

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<v Speaker 2>that leaves more for me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>I never have to ask are you gonna finish that?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>It's true, especially chocolate. That's the thing I don't understand

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<v Speaker 2>about you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>As a matter of fact, I question our friendship over

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<v Speaker 2>the chocolate.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, that you're not like I told you my experience.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know two people that don't like chocolate, and

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<v Speaker 2>both of them are psychopaths.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you saying I'm a psychopath? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, did you ever hear Hannibal Lecter mentioned that he

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<v Speaker 2>liked chocolate. No, no, no, what I'm saying. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>one he liked liver. So anyways, anyways, I might be

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<v Speaker 2>making a leap there.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Hey, so you know I don't mind chocolate, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I can eat chocolate with like like peanut m and m's.

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<v Speaker 1>If I were to buy a box of peanut lem

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<v Speaker 1>and M's in a movie theater, I get about halfway

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<v Speaker 1>through it, I'm like, I cannot eat anymore. But I

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<v Speaker 1>can only eat the first half because it has peanuts

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<v Speaker 1>in it. Ow I get to the end of a

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<v Speaker 1>Snickers bar, I'm like, whoa wow. But like, but halfway

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<v Speaker 1>through it, I'm fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I walked through. And if there's chocolate, I have to

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<v Speaker 2>taste it. I have to have it. I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just I mean, I will say this very very strongly.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's like a Hershey's kiss, absolutely not even a

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<v Speaker 1>chance while I eat that just pure chocolate.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I just ate five her She's kisses last night,

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<v Speaker 2>back to back to back. So funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, I just don't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, sorry, all right, So, hey, Jeff, can the

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<v Speaker 2>misery of your life?

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<v Speaker 1>It's great, it's great. All right, Hey, listen, we are

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<v Speaker 1>launching into a segment the Desiree is calling Hot Takes Showdown,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is supposed to be where we debate. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we're supposed to commit. Okay, okay, so uh so here

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<v Speaker 1>we go. She said, do you agree with this the statement?

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<v Speaker 1>The statement debate, stand your ground, no middle ground. Here

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<v Speaker 1>we go. The first statement, is this cursive should still

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<v Speaker 1>be taught? Yes, absolutely, it should.

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<v Speaker 2>It should be. I think you think so too. Yes, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you would say no.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I should be. Yes, it is. It is a

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<v Speaker 1>it is a lost art and and honestly it is. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's there's so many things about it. It's elegant,

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<v Speaker 1>it's quicker to write, it is. Yes, it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting because people have signatures in cursive, and yet

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<v Speaker 1>nobody writes in cursive anymore. So I think it's I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, I do I like I'll write in cursive. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>write in cursive. If I'm writing you a note, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>write in cursive and not print it. Yeah, because you

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<v Speaker 2>can't read my printing?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh is that why?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I have decent penmanship, but I still like to do

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<v Speaker 1>cursive when uh, when I write a card to my kids,

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<v Speaker 1>I do cursive just to show them that cursive exists.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and can they still read it?

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<v Speaker 1>I think so?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Another credit, Well, because I

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<v Speaker 2>think they were they were.

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<v Speaker 1>The cutoff was after them, Okay, so I think they

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<v Speaker 1>all learned it right then there's a cutoff. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the generation alpha they I don't think they'll

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<v Speaker 1>be able to recognize cursive.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>I like how it looks. I like it's I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's easy to read. Yeah, even if they yeah, poor penmanship.

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<v Speaker 2>Cursive you usually read the beginning and the end of

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<v Speaker 2>a of a word anyways, and incursive there's usually distinct

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<v Speaker 2>beginnings and ends. Write your first letter and your last

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<v Speaker 2>letter stand out. Even if there's kind of scribble in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle, you can usually and that's how you read.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that so that's part of it? It's easy to read.

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<v Speaker 1>The bottom line is is it not that hard? Why

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<v Speaker 1>do we get rid of it? It's not that hard.

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<v Speaker 2>We are standing our ground.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's go, people pick up the pace.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why did we get rid of raise

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<v Speaker 2>the bar because everybody's typing and so we don't need

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<v Speaker 2>to write cursive I think, so I guess, okay, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's it seems silly to me, okay. And then the

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<v Speaker 2>second one is it's okay to quit things you start.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely it is absolutely yes, hate quitting things I start.

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<v Speaker 1>It depends on what liz.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate it, but I do it. I just hate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Why.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I always feel like less of a

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<v Speaker 2>man when I don't finish the things I start. Every time.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me let me give you an example. So I, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I am the worst at this. Somebody said, somebody said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let me talk you to run in the marathon, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, great, I'm gonna commit to it. I

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<v Speaker 1>went public with it in front of everybody, in front

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<v Speaker 1>of thousands of people. Then I started training for it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then sometimes someone hurt my back and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>thank God, thank god that I hurt my back. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to run this race. And then what I

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<v Speaker 1>realized was like two years later down the road. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not kidding when I say this. My old church

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<v Speaker 1>used to work at. Running was a big thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody on staff was a large staff. There were like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty avid runners, twenty where they were like, running's my thing,

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<v Speaker 1>man marathons. And by the way, I'm not against runners.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just against runners running longer than your body was intended, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, a half a marathon. I think your

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<v Speaker 1>body can handle a half a marathon.

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<v Speaker 2>But every single people some people's bodies.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>You ever see me running, the cops are tasting me.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, right. But anyway, bottom line is is twenty out

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty had surgery. Twenty out of twenty. Yeah when

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<v Speaker 1>he out of twenty had surgery because I.

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<v Speaker 2>Am, and then they die their body falls apart.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they all had surgery, back surgery, leg surgery, knee surgery.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a whole vein of medicine called sports medicine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And and there's a whole segment just most of the

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<v Speaker 2>orthopedic surgeons and stuff. It's for runners, right most.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, our good friend Dave Wilson he can't walk upright

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<v Speaker 1>because he blew his knee out in the first game

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<v Speaker 1>he ever played at in college football and he's been

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<v Speaker 1>on bone on bone on his knee and now he

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<v Speaker 1>can't straighten up.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we need to fix it. Well, I got a

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<v Speaker 2>pocket knife. Maybe I don't know if I'm good at it,

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<v Speaker 2>but it might be.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, give me a new knee.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, so yeah. So I think the if you

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<v Speaker 2>ever asked me, what is the thing I wish I

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<v Speaker 2>could change the most about me, it's this. I start

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<v Speaker 2>a million things and I and I don't always finish them, really,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's nothing in me that says that's okay. Everything

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<v Speaker 2>in me says just finish it. I would rule the

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<v Speaker 2>world if I could finish all the stuff I start.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's the adhd thing in me. Oh hey,

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<v Speaker 2>look at the squirrel. Squirrel right always there's another thing

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<v Speaker 2>that catches my attention and it's really exciting. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I start tons of stuff. Home project. You can ask

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<v Speaker 2>my wife. I'll start home projects and I can't finish them.

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<v Speaker 2>I've already made fifteen trips to home depot. I get frustrated.

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<v Speaker 2>It's time to call somebody to come and help me

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<v Speaker 2>fixing a car, same thing, and I just feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I should, I should be able to do it. I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't. And either I don't or I can't. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a ton of those things. I probably have twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>unfinished projects right now. And nothing in me says that's okay. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>well not just at home. I'm not at home, just

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<v Speaker 2>projects are writing. I'm writing a couple of different things.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm writing three things right now. None of the three

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<v Speaker 2>are done. I just put a deadline on one of

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<v Speaker 2>them recently. Deadlines. I like deadlines. Deadlines get me moving,

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<v Speaker 2>get me motivated. But yeah, I've got so many loose

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<v Speaker 2>ends and it drives me nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say real quick, because I know we're coming

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<v Speaker 1>up on our time. One time, I tore the whole

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<v Speaker 1>bathroom apart down to the studs and I and I

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<v Speaker 1>had friends that I know come in and just do

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<v Speaker 1>like mostly free and uh, but the bathroom was still

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<v Speaker 1>undone after like a year, and slowly but surely we

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<v Speaker 1>just got it put together. And so I kept on

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<v Speaker 1>telling my wife. I was like, She's like, let's just

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<v Speaker 1>hire somebody, and I said, no, no, no, I'll get

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<v Speaker 1>it done. I promise. And then I went to Cuba

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<v Speaker 1>and I came back and it was done done, and

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<v Speaker 1>she had hired somebody when I was in Cuba. Good

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<v Speaker 1>and she had planned the whole thing. So I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>how much do we own this guy? But thank god

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<v Speaker 1>he was a good guy and charges a small amount.

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, hey, speaking, I'm strong, I wouldn't say.

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<v Speaker 2>The one thing it is okay to quit thing is

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<v Speaker 2>if you're if you're eating a meal that's too big

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<v Speaker 2>to finish.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, right yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and uh that's what we're talking about. It's being hungry, hungry.

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<v Speaker 1>We both went for it, okay, very good. Yeah yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I like it as a weak transition.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, we got no. I thought it was it

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<v Speaker 1>got us there, clever. Yeah, it was better than our

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<v Speaker 1>normal lazy transition.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's right. So in Matthew chapter five, we just

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<v Speaker 2>read in verse six, God blesses those who hunger in

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<v Speaker 2>thirst for justice or righteousness, for they will be satisfied.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the premise of this entire series is Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>is achieved. So if you ignore the least commandment and

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<v Speaker 2>teach others to do the same, you will be called

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<v Speaker 2>the least in the Kingdom of heaven. But anyone who

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<v Speaker 2>in the Kingdom of heaven. But I warn you, unless

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<v Speaker 2>your righteousness is better than the righteousness of the teachers

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<v Speaker 2>of religious law and the Pharisees, you will never enter

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<v Speaker 2>the Kingdom of heaven. Woo about righteousness. So on one side,

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday we said, God doesn't say I'm going to reward

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<v Speaker 2>your righteous living. He said, I'm going to reward your

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so some people can some people can misinterpret that, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so some people misinterpret that as saying Jesus is saying

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<v Speaker 1>you have to live right in order to obtain heaven. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>But he's talking about the law being the thing, the

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<v Speaker 1>vehicle that gets you to heaven. Right. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>If you think the law is what gets you to heaven,

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right. That's what he's saying. He's saying,

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<v Speaker 1>the righteousness of the law is not what gets you

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<v Speaker 1>to heaven. Right, and so's and he's actually he's actually saying, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>the law. I'm not doing away with it, right, just

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm giving you new rules, and you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>giving you a new commandment love one another. And Jesus,

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<v Speaker 1>everything else. So so in a lot of ways, the

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<v Speaker 1>Old Testament, some of the Old Testament laws, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>apply to us today because Jesus has fulfilled them. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred years, Jesus fulfilled that, right, He's accomplished that.

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<v Speaker 1>There are some things in the Old Testament where Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>came to complete He put a bow on it, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's done with. Right. But he's not saying, but he said,

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<v Speaker 1>because anything that's not fulfilled, anything that I have not

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<v Speaker 1>fulfilled or accomplished, it will exist all the way to

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<v Speaker 1>the ends of the earth. Right, So all the things

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<v Speaker 1>that Jesus didn't come to satisfy, all the stuff in

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<v Speaker 1>the Old Testament that still exists that aren't satisfied by Jesus,

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<v Speaker 1>by his you know, salvation, What am I saying? Just

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<v Speaker 1>his fulfillment of salvation, prophecies, right, and everything else he's

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<v Speaker 1>saying will still exist. But then he's really talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the law and he's saying he's saying listen the law.

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<v Speaker 1>You think the Pharisees are righteous, but you have to

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<v Speaker 1>just think that people will take this verse out of

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<v Speaker 1>that conflicts with every other verse when God promises salvation,

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<v Speaker 1>when God explains salvation. If you take all the verses

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, this verse is consistent with what Paul says.

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<v Speaker 2>So Jesus is saying in a few sentences. Well, Paul

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<v Speaker 2>took several chapters in the Book of Romans to unpack. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>If you think that the law can get you to heaven,

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<v Speaker 2>the law is just a task master. All the rules

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<v Speaker 2>are there to prove to you that you can't keep

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<v Speaker 2>the laws, and so then the only thing we have

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<v Speaker 2>to fall back on is God's grace. Right. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I talked about this, you know, and I preached this

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<v Speaker 2>at my brother's funeral in Psalm or in Roman seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Even Paul says, the things I wish I'd do, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't do, and the things I don't want to do

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<v Speaker 2>I do. And he's talking about the law. In that

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<v Speaker 2>whole chapter, he's talking about the law, and he said, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>me from this body of death? And he says, thank Goodness,

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<v Speaker 2>only Jesus can. But then you turn to Romans chapter eight,

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<v Speaker 2>is now therefore no condemnation for those who are in

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<v Speaker 2>Christ Jesus. So if I'm going to try to earn

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<v Speaker 2>it my own way, Romans chapter seven says, oh what

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<v Speaker 2>a wretched man I am. And I just living in

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<v Speaker 2>chapter eight says, there's no condemnation for those who are

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<v Speaker 2>in Christ Jesus. How do I have my righteousness transcend

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<v Speaker 2>the righteousness of the most perfect people on the planet

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<v Speaker 2>At the time, the pharisees, not on my dime, It's

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<v Speaker 2>on Jesus dime. Right. The Bible says that we are

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<v Speaker 2>plunged into Christ, those who are in Christ. Jesus is

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<v Speaker 2>that word, and it talks about we are in His righteousness.

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<v Speaker 2>We're clothed. The Bible says, we're clothed in Jesus righteousness.

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<v Speaker 2>And so my righteousness on its own can never measure

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<v Speaker 2>up to the perfection of the law, let alone to

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<v Speaker 2>how good the Pharisees were. But when Jesus gives me

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<v Speaker 2>his righteousness and I possess him, he's in me, and

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<v Speaker 2>I have him, then my righteousness. When God looks at me,

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<v Speaker 2>he sees Jesus, and that's the only way any of

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<v Speaker 2>us are getting in. It's through Jesus, and he unpacks it.

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<v Speaker 2>He'd already said he's the salt, the other the light

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<v Speaker 2>of the world, but now he's saying, you guys, are

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<v Speaker 2>you represent me? So he says, let your good deeds

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<v Speaker 2>deeds and glorify your father, who's in heaven. Then he says,

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<v Speaker 2>don't misunderstand why I've come. And then he says, I

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<v Speaker 2>came not to get rid of the law, but to

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<v Speaker 2>fulfill it. But if you're trying to fulfill it, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no chance. And then from there on the next verses

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<v Speaker 2>he talks about murder and anger. He talks about lust,

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<v Speaker 2>how we should be treating other people in our communities

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<v Speaker 2>and our enemies. He talks about generosity towards the needy.

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<v Speaker 2>all the religious stuff, He unpacks, everything attached to the law.

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<v Speaker 2>He talks about through the whole rest of the thing,

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<v Speaker 2>And every one of these goes and you can't do

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<v Speaker 2>And finally he gets down to the end in chapter seven,

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna find it, You're gonna receive it. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>faith thing. This is what he's trying to turn. He's

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<v Speaker 2>turning it all on his head. He talks about all

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<v Speaker 2>they just don't kill anybody, they're going to be good,

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<v Speaker 2>and Jesus goes, that's not enough, because if you are

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<v Speaker 2>angry at somebody enough to kill, it's the same as

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<v Speaker 2>killing him. If you lust after a woman, it's the

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<v Speaker 2>same as sleeping with it. Right, he goes on down

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<v Speaker 2>keep the law. The whole rest of the message is

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<v Speaker 2>can't do it. And then he gets here to chapter

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<v Speaker 2>seven and he goes, but listen, it's a faith thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So he keeps tying faith is better than the law,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he gets there and then finally goes, so

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<v Speaker 2>let me just sumbon it, afraid, treat people the way

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<v Speaker 2>And then he says in chapter seven, you can enter

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<v Speaker 2>God's kingdom only through the narrow gate. So the other

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<v Speaker 2>one says, if you're trying to trying to earn your

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<v Speaker 2>way to heaven, you're not going to make it in

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<v Speaker 2>the kingdom of heaven if your personal righteousness doesn't exceed

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<v Speaker 2>the righteousness of the Pharisees. He said, but let me

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<v Speaker 2>tell you how to get to him. It's a narrow

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<v Speaker 2>it's a narrow way. Not the highway to Hell is broad,

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<v Speaker 2>and this gate is wide for the many who choose

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<v Speaker 2>that way. But the gateway to life is very narrow,

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<v Speaker 2>and the road is difficult, and only if you ever

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<v Speaker 2>find it. And he's saying it's him. There's another point

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<v Speaker 2>where Jesus says, I'm the gate right, I'm the door

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<v Speaker 2>realized it before that. The whole message is him proving

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<v Speaker 2>and he goes, I'm the only way. We get to

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<v Speaker 2>John fourteen and he goes, I'm the way the truth

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<v Speaker 2>in life. No one comes with Father except through me.

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<v Speaker 2>And so Paul takes chapters and chapters and chapters to

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<v Speaker 2>unpack these ideas, and Jesus in here he just takes three.

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<v Speaker 2>And so his language is tighter, it's shorter, But when

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<v Speaker 2>you compare it to everything else that we know in

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<v Speaker 2>the Bible, he's saying the same thing. He's saying the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing. You can't earn your way to Heaven. You

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<v Speaker 2>need my righteousness. Let me prove it to you. Because

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<v Speaker 2>even how you look at the letter of the law,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at the spirit of the law, and you

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<v Speaker 2>can't get to heaven because you've broken all the law anyways.

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<v Speaker 2>So then let me summarize it on this it's faith.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the only way. And then you're trying to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out how to live. Just treat people the way you

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<v Speaker 1>Were you surprised that I didn't sing Highway to Hell

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<v Speaker 1>when you Yeah, it says, and then I just rested

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<v Speaker 1>their minds. As soon as you said how it out,

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<v Speaker 2>the Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that's right, that's right. You know, the whole world

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Elizabeth Hurley, she played the devil. Well, there

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<v Speaker 1>the guy, and rackel Welch was in it and everything else,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, anyway, it was it was there just a

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<v Speaker 1>movie about Satan visiting this guy and trying to trick

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<v Speaker 1>him into some wishes, okay, and anyway, so during this movie,

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<v Speaker 1>now keep in mind, this is like a Dudley Moore

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<v Speaker 1>at the time of the time, very popular, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>this is a this is a well known movie. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like in today's day and age, you have to be

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<v Speaker 1>a Bible scholar to even get all the jokes in

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<v Speaker 1>this movie. So like here he.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the people in the room would have known it.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the seventies, people in the room would have

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<v Speaker 1>known it. And so it just shocked me as I

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<v Speaker 1>saw this old movie that he's making all these references

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<v Speaker 1>about Moses and Abraham and the Seven Deadly Sins and

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<v Speaker 1>he's you know, he's in and there's these one offs

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<v Speaker 1>and he's not making them with the devil or with God.

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<v Speaker 1>He's making them like with people, and they're all laughing

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<v Speaker 1>and talking about it, and it's like and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's like they're at a party and he's making Bible references.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Well, just like Joseph in the prison, And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, is it true that our culture like this

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<v Speaker 1>movie was written to be a good movie to make

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of money, And so everybody must have understood

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<v Speaker 1>these things right, right, because our culture.

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<v Speaker 2>You would have to understand the joke for it to

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<v Speaker 2>be funny. Yes, and everybody would have understood it, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>And now.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, I'm telling it. It's no wonder why they

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<v Speaker 1>redid it, right, all the Bible jokes went away.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So anyway, well, just even in these seven in

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<v Speaker 2>these three chapters, I mean, Jesus says, go the extra mile,

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<v Speaker 2>people for going the extra mile.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Coaches will talk about going the extra mile. Drill sergeants

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about going the extra mile. That one there.

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<v Speaker 2>Treat people the way you want to be treated. The

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<v Speaker 2>Golden rule. How many everybody almost everybody's heard somebody reference

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<v Speaker 2>the golden doing to others as you'd have them doing

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<v Speaker 2>to you. And don't judge, not judge, don't judge. Cheek, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the cheek, and those are just in these three chapters

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<v Speaker 2>here that they still permeate a lot of culture. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the Highway to Hell thing, that's where the idea comes

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<v Speaker 2>from well we did.

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<v Speaker 3>We did a series that I'm not advocating for the song,

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<v Speaker 3>right even Yeah, even the rock stars know the knew

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<v Speaker 3>the Bible back then.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's that's what exactly right.

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<v Speaker 1>But but anyway, the.

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<v Speaker 2>So I hope our listeners learn the Bible better than

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<v Speaker 2>rock stars. How about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I was gonna say.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a thought, unless your unless your righteousness succeeds

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<v Speaker 2>the righteousness of the rock stars, you're never gonna make it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right. Well, I had a fleeting thought

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<v Speaker 1>maybe tomorrow. That's okay. Now I sang, that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what happened, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, hey, that is definitely our time. So thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for tuning in and hopefully we will see you tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>on the bubble guys.

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