Saturday vs Sunday

In this offseason episode of Saturday vs Sunday, hosts Geoff Dover and John Barban dive into some of the most pressing football storylines from both the NFL and college football. With the Super Bowl now in the rearview mirror, the duo focuses on offseason headlines, including quarterback controversies, strategic innovations, and major coaching moves.The episode kicks off with NFL news, where Barban brings up the Aaron Rodgers and Kirk Cousins storylines. Both quarterbacks were high-profile acquisitions for their respective teams—the Jets and the Falcons—but each experiment failed spectacularly. Rodgers, coming off an Achilles injury, never got his second chance after a disastrous first season with the Jets, while Cousins’ move to Atlanta also failed to generate the expected success. The discussion shifts to whether NFL teams should continue investing in aging quarterbacks, especially when the league’s most successful teams now revolve around younger, mobile QBs. Dover points out that Rodgers’ stats were actually similar to Patrick Mahomes this season, which raises an interesting debate—was Rodgers the problem, or was it just a terrible situation in New York?Next, the focus shifts to college football, where Ohio State’s decision to hire Matt Patricia as defensive coordinator takes center stage. Patricia’s history with Bill Belichick and his mixed reputation as a coach make this a fascinating hire. Barban expands on the Belichick coaching tree and how it could influence college football, citing UNC’s improved recruiting under the Belichick effect. The conversation highlights how elite coaching experience from the NFL can serve as a massive recruiting tool for powerhouse programs like Ohio State, Alabama, and Michigan.The main topic of the episode centers on the Tush Push, the now-famous short-yardage play popularized by the Philadelphia Eagles. Despite its overwhelming success in the NFL—particularly in goal-line and fourth-down situations—it is rarely, if ever, seen in college football. Dover and Barban break down the possible reasons, discussing whether personnel differences, offensive philosophy, or coaching tendencies might be preventing NCAA teams from implementing the play. Barban suggests that college teams spend less time under center, which could be a factor, while Dover speculates that offensive line disparities between NFL and college teams may make the play harder to execute. Regardless of the reason, both hosts agree that many college programs—especially those with big, athletic quarterbacks—are missing out on an easy short-yardage advantage.Towards the end of the episode, the discussion shifts back to the NFL, where the New York Giants’ decision to sell a minority stake in the team sparks a fascinating debate. Barban argues that more NFL franchises should allow fans to buy a small percentage of team ownership, similar to the Green Bay Packers’ unique structure. Dover agrees, noting that most fans already feel a deep sense of ownership over their teams, so why not formalize it?As always, Saturday vs Sunday delivers an engaging mix of NFL and college football analysis, tackling the biggest headlines while diving into strategic and philosophical debates that shape the game. Tune in next week for more football talk as the offseason rolls on!

Show Notes

In this offseason episode of Saturday vs Sunday, hosts Geoff Dover and John Barban dive into some of the most pressing football storylines from both the NFL and college football. With the Super Bowl now in the rearview mirror, the duo focuses on offseason headlines, including quarterback controversies, strategic innovations, and major coaching moves.The episode kicks off with NFL news, where Barban brings up the Aaron Rodgers and Kirk Cousins storylines. Both quarterbacks were high-profile acquisitions for their respective teams—the Jets and the Falcons—but each experiment failed spectacularly. Rodgers, coming off an Achilles injury, never got his second chance after a disastrous first season with the Jets, while Cousins’ move to Atlanta also failed to generate the expected success. The discussion shifts to whether NFL teams should continue investing in aging quarterbacks, especially when the league’s most successful teams now revolve around younger, mobile QBs. Dover points out that Rodgers’ stats were actually similar to Patrick Mahomes this season, which raises an interesting debate—was Rodgers the problem, or was it just a terrible situation in New York?Next, the focus shifts to college football, where Ohio State’s decision to hire Matt Patricia as defensive coordinator takes center stage. Patricia’s history with Bill Belichick and his mixed reputation as a coach make this a fascinating hire. Barban expands on the Belichick coaching tree and how it could influence college football, citing UNC’s improved recruiting under the Belichick effect. The conversation highlights how elite coaching experience from the NFL can serve as a massive recruiting tool for powerhouse programs like Ohio State, Alabama, and Michigan.The main topic of the episode centers on the Tush Push, the now-famous short-yardage play popularized by the Philadelphia Eagles. Despite its overwhelming success in the NFL—particularly in goal-line and fourth-down situations—it is rarely, if ever, seen in college football. Dover and Barban break down the possible reasons, discussing whether personnel differences, offensive philosophy, or coaching tendencies might be preventing NCAA teams from implementing the play. Barban suggests that college teams spend less time under center, which could be a factor, while Dover speculates that offensive line disparities between NFL and college teams may make the play harder to execute. Regardless of the reason, both hosts agree that many college programs—especially those with big, athletic quarterbacks—are missing out on an easy short-yardage advantage.Towards the end of the episode, the discussion shifts back to the NFL, where the New York Giants’ decision to sell a minority stake in the team sparks a fascinating debate. Barban argues that more NFL franchises should allow fans to buy a small percentage of team ownership, similar to the Green Bay Packers’ unique structure. Dover agrees, noting that most fans already feel a deep sense of ownership over their teams, so why not formalize it?As always, Saturday vs Sunday delivers an engaging mix of NFL and college football analysis, tackling the biggest headlines while diving into strategic and philosophical debates that shape the game. Tune in next week for more football talk as the offseason rolls on!

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