1 00:00:00,100 --> 00:00:02,702 Here we are in the studio again. There, Joyce and I feel. 2 00:00:02,702 --> 00:00:06,940 Like we did a whole show already on there, and there's so much more to talk about. 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,342 The behind the scenes stuff that goes on here in the studio. 4 00:00:09,342 --> 00:00:10,143 It's pretty amazing. 5 00:00:10,143 --> 00:00:13,113 We'll have to do like a behind the scenes clip type show at some point. 6 00:00:13,113 --> 00:00:15,582 Both of you guys have the camera on all the time. 7 00:00:15,582 --> 00:00:19,152 What's good with Janet Joyce is sponsored by woodwinds Wedding and Special Events 8 00:00:19,152 --> 00:00:23,156 Venue in Branford, Connecticut, and Silvio's award winning Italian sauces, 9 00:00:23,256 --> 00:00:26,426 which you can buy any time online at silvio's. 10 00:00:26,426 --> 00:00:27,961 Sauces.com. 11 00:00:27,961 --> 00:00:30,530 That's silvio's sauces.com. 12 00:00:30,530 --> 00:00:31,331 Without further ado. 13 00:00:31,331 --> 00:00:34,100 Hey, welcome to What's Good with John and Joyce. 14 00:00:34,100 --> 00:00:37,037 And it's just been, a lot of fun doing this choice. 15 00:00:37,037 --> 00:00:40,240 We have had so many great guests, but I'm really pumped up about this. 16 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,509 We had a, meeting this morning on the phone, 17 00:00:42,509 --> 00:00:46,046 and people were saying to me, Chinese sound really riled up today as well. 18 00:00:46,112 --> 00:00:47,647 We had this guest coming in. 19 00:00:47,647 --> 00:00:49,816 This guy's amazing, you know, TV star. 20 00:00:49,816 --> 00:00:52,819 I want a reality show, like, I think a year ago about this time. 21 00:00:52,919 --> 00:00:54,254 Claim to fame, claim. 22 00:00:54,254 --> 00:00:56,656 To fame, social entrepreneur 23 00:00:56,656 --> 00:01:00,593 which I love uses music is healing and we know the power of music. 24 00:01:00,593 --> 00:01:02,729 Being in the music business as we are. 25 00:01:02,729 --> 00:01:08,201 And he's, Michael Bolton is his uncle or a he is Michael Bolton's. 26 00:01:08,435 --> 00:01:10,270 Nephew. Whichever way I'm prefer. 27 00:01:10,270 --> 00:01:12,872 That's pretty big stuff, but but this guy is amazing. 28 00:01:12,872 --> 00:01:15,241 I've known him for a while. Joyce, I know you have as well. 29 00:01:15,241 --> 00:01:17,243 It's a real honor and privilege to have this gentleman here 30 00:01:17,243 --> 00:01:20,547 who's making a lot of positive impact in the world today. 31 00:01:20,847 --> 00:01:22,782 Adam, welcome. Adam Kristofferson. 32 00:01:22,782 --> 00:01:24,751 Yeah, welcome to what's good with Johnny Joyce. 33 00:01:24,751 --> 00:01:27,120 Thank you very much for such a beautiful intro. 34 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,355 You burn up a little bit of. It. 35 00:01:29,355 --> 00:01:30,123 Looking at you, man. 36 00:01:30,123 --> 00:01:31,057 I'm almost tearing. Up. 37 00:01:31,057 --> 00:01:33,193 No, you weren't an amazing guy, Joyce. 38 00:01:33,193 --> 00:01:34,127 And I think the world of you 39 00:01:34,127 --> 00:01:36,496 and what you're doing to make this world a better place. 40 00:01:36,496 --> 00:01:39,499 That's what we're trying to do with the show and represent the show 41 00:01:39,566 --> 00:01:40,366 in so many ways. 42 00:01:40,366 --> 00:01:42,335 Well, I'm starting to feel your show. 43 00:01:42,335 --> 00:01:44,104 I was I was listening to it on the way over. 44 00:01:44,104 --> 00:01:46,172 I listened to a little bit during the week, and that's what it is. 45 00:01:46,172 --> 00:01:49,542 You're providing this incredible platform for people to sit 46 00:01:49,909 --> 00:01:52,912 with themselves, without the nonsense of the outside world 47 00:01:52,912 --> 00:01:57,050 and the distractions, and just soak in what what's really going on? 48 00:01:57,050 --> 00:01:58,518 Well, like you said, it's a safe haven. 49 00:01:58,518 --> 00:02:00,153 Yeah, it's a safe haven, right? 50 00:02:00,153 --> 00:02:01,788 Absolutely. Yeah. 51 00:02:01,788 --> 00:02:05,191 And I selfishly want to do one because I've loved you for a long time. 52 00:02:05,525 --> 00:02:08,528 You light up a room. I mean, from years ago. 53 00:02:08,528 --> 00:02:08,862 I mean, 54 00:02:08,862 --> 00:02:10,830 you just had this special energy about you 55 00:02:10,830 --> 00:02:13,466 that I don't even know if you realize that you have. 56 00:02:13,466 --> 00:02:17,971 But it's the creativeness also that I respect so much within you. 57 00:02:17,971 --> 00:02:21,107 Well, Joyce, you have always been a safe haven, 58 00:02:21,107 --> 00:02:24,277 in my life going to these events that we, we, we shared. 59 00:02:24,277 --> 00:02:27,847 And, I was left to my own devices to go 60 00:02:27,847 --> 00:02:32,252 find out where I can go, how far I can go to get away from my parents. 61 00:02:32,685 --> 00:02:36,723 And, and it was always you and Wayne that really just gave me this place 62 00:02:36,723 --> 00:02:39,893 that I felt very safe and very welcoming, very hurt. 63 00:02:40,293 --> 00:02:41,594 I'm glad that you felt that. 64 00:02:41,594 --> 00:02:44,597 I mean, I love when we would just sneak off and sit on the steps. 65 00:02:44,631 --> 00:02:47,133 Yeah. Talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 66 00:02:47,133 --> 00:02:50,136 And those are, those are like, pivotal moments that I needed. 67 00:02:50,436 --> 00:02:52,172 And of all of this, 68 00:02:52,172 --> 00:02:56,009 like, wide range of experiences that I was going through at that time. 69 00:02:56,142 --> 00:02:57,877 Well, Adam, let me ask you this, for 70 00:02:57,877 --> 00:03:01,381 some people that are tuning in right now, a lot of people listen to the podcast. 71 00:03:01,381 --> 00:03:03,449 Some people watch, some people do both, 72 00:03:03,449 --> 00:03:05,418 but some people that may not be familiar with you. 73 00:03:05,418 --> 00:03:07,153 I mean, the 2 or 3 people that may not be familiar 74 00:03:07,153 --> 00:03:10,890 with you in this, in this area, but also, you know, nationwide, globally. 75 00:03:11,224 --> 00:03:13,960 Give us a little Reader's Digest version of who you are 76 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,395 and why you do what you do. Now. 77 00:03:16,763 --> 00:03:18,898 You know, I was very, very fortunate. 78 00:03:18,898 --> 00:03:24,871 To have two loving parents, both struggled in their own way. 79 00:03:24,871 --> 00:03:26,439 My mom has paranoid schizophrenia. 80 00:03:26,439 --> 00:03:27,941 My father's a Vietnam vet 81 00:03:27,941 --> 00:03:31,811 with some serious PTSD and some mental stuff going on there. And, 82 00:03:33,079 --> 00:03:37,083 that afforded me, a wide range of experiences in my life. 83 00:03:37,083 --> 00:03:38,785 I've gotten to meet so many people 84 00:03:38,785 --> 00:03:42,755 from so many walks of life, just, whether they're living with us 85 00:03:42,822 --> 00:03:45,825 or just environments that I was brought into. 86 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,596 I had a lot of experience in the mental health world. 87 00:03:49,596 --> 00:03:52,865 I just realized, and I don't know if you know this, but, 88 00:03:52,865 --> 00:03:57,203 I was admitted into a child psychiatric hospital at four years old through my. 89 00:03:57,203 --> 00:03:58,271 Really? Yeah. 90 00:03:58,271 --> 00:04:03,109 At four, slightly after that, I was I was brought into, foster 91 00:04:03,109 --> 00:04:06,879 care, taken away from both of my parents because it was just too much at that time. 92 00:04:07,380 --> 00:04:10,683 And the blessing came along with my father's mother, Bertha 93 00:04:11,150 --> 00:04:12,518 Bertha Florence Wickstrom. 94 00:04:12,518 --> 00:04:15,255 Christopher the Swedish. Yeah. Yes. 95 00:04:15,255 --> 00:04:16,522 And she was quite a person. 96 00:04:16,522 --> 00:04:19,892 And she opened my eyes to, poetry 97 00:04:20,193 --> 00:04:23,096 and, Swedish pancakes. 98 00:04:23,096 --> 00:04:25,898 And a real safe place to to dwell. 99 00:04:25,898 --> 00:04:29,502 And, she really got me started on something really special. 100 00:04:29,502 --> 00:04:32,939 I feel like poetry was a real godsend that she had given me. 101 00:04:33,973 --> 00:04:36,976 That exposure as a young, as a young kid. 102 00:04:37,243 --> 00:04:40,680 And so, you know, time goes by. 103 00:04:41,114 --> 00:04:44,684 I went through a lot of challenges having these kind of labels. 104 00:04:44,684 --> 00:04:47,920 You know, it's not an easy kind of transition to just, it's. 105 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,856 Just so sad. People have to label people. 106 00:04:49,856 --> 00:04:50,423 Well, yeah. 107 00:04:50,423 --> 00:04:53,159 Yeah. Especially during the early special education days. 108 00:04:53,159 --> 00:04:54,327 That was a very difficult time. 109 00:04:54,327 --> 00:04:58,231 Went through, quite a bit of, growing 110 00:04:58,231 --> 00:05:01,768 pains in the school system and, made it out, 111 00:05:02,302 --> 00:05:04,771 found this really incredible, family, 112 00:05:04,771 --> 00:05:07,874 the Feldman's and, Sue Feldman. 113 00:05:07,874 --> 00:05:09,108 She's a social worker. 114 00:05:09,108 --> 00:05:12,345 She, she thought what I was doing with music, 115 00:05:12,712 --> 00:05:15,581 could be used in mental health places. 116 00:05:15,581 --> 00:05:18,484 And so she invited me to work with these women who had Aids, substance 117 00:05:18,484 --> 00:05:20,953 abuse, dual diagnosis, all kinds of things going on. 118 00:05:21,988 --> 00:05:25,291 And she cut me a check, and I was like, well, I get to do what I love. 119 00:05:25,291 --> 00:05:28,294 And, and, you know, help people. So, 120 00:05:29,562 --> 00:05:32,732 yeah, I got my degree in recreation therapy. 121 00:05:32,732 --> 00:05:34,934 I was convinced to go to college, even though I didn't want to go to. 122 00:05:34,934 --> 00:05:35,868 Yeah. 123 00:05:35,868 --> 00:05:38,204 And I started working at a Yale child psychiatric hospital. 124 00:05:38,204 --> 00:05:40,173 Now, my wife 125 00:05:40,173 --> 00:05:42,942 thought that this was just crazy when I told her recently that, 126 00:05:42,942 --> 00:05:44,344 you know, I was impatient. 127 00:05:44,344 --> 00:05:48,348 We read the, we read the, the medical records from that time, 128 00:05:48,348 --> 00:05:51,451 and it said that Adam responded really well to music. 129 00:05:52,385 --> 00:05:55,788 Right in the hospital, as in the inpatient psych. 130 00:05:56,189 --> 00:05:58,858 And the first thing that I did when I got to work at when he was one 131 00:05:58,858 --> 00:06:02,028 child psych at Yale, was I asked my supervisor 132 00:06:02,028 --> 00:06:05,031 if I could bring my recording gear and make music with the kids there. 133 00:06:05,365 --> 00:06:08,067 And it was in that moment that kids began to experience 134 00:06:08,067 --> 00:06:11,771 the power and the place of music and the safe haven of music, 135 00:06:12,105 --> 00:06:14,907 and I'd put the headphones on them and a microphone in front of them and 136 00:06:14,907 --> 00:06:16,476 start creating music with them, 137 00:06:16,476 --> 00:06:20,146 and they would be immediately caught and captured by the power, 138 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:25,618 music and medical director was like, whoa, like, what's happening here? 139 00:06:25,618 --> 00:06:26,953 This is something special. 140 00:06:26,953 --> 00:06:28,187 That is a common language. 141 00:06:28,187 --> 00:06:30,757 Joyce, you and I've talked about music a lot, and our passion for it 142 00:06:30,757 --> 00:06:32,191 brings people together. 143 00:06:32,191 --> 00:06:34,327 Generations, all parts. Of. 144 00:06:34,327 --> 00:06:36,095 All people, ethnic backgrounds, big time. 145 00:06:36,095 --> 00:06:37,864 It is really the common healer. 146 00:06:37,864 --> 00:06:38,965 It is, it is. 147 00:06:38,965 --> 00:06:42,201 It's so healing, you know, bring up a lot of emotions. 148 00:06:42,268 --> 00:06:45,538 And if you're able to do that and for you to able to accomplish 149 00:06:45,538 --> 00:06:49,308 what you've done, to take the adversity and use it as an opportunity. 150 00:06:49,842 --> 00:06:50,243 Yeah. 151 00:06:50,243 --> 00:06:53,413 It's also out of necessity, the mother of invention. 152 00:06:53,446 --> 00:06:53,713 Right. 153 00:06:53,713 --> 00:06:57,617 So music, in the hardest of times, when my father bought me a drum set 154 00:06:57,984 --> 00:07:00,920 at about eight years old, me right here in Branford 155 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:05,258 and, is a pearl blue drum set, and he put it in the basement 156 00:07:05,258 --> 00:07:09,061 and I just conducted, I thought I was on stage with my Uncle Beau, and, 157 00:07:09,729 --> 00:07:11,697 maybe it was even further spiritual. 158 00:07:11,697 --> 00:07:15,101 It could have been like, you know, in the presence of the creator himself. 159 00:07:15,101 --> 00:07:18,104 I just felt like I could I could slam on these things 160 00:07:18,404 --> 00:07:21,073 and conduct a symphony in my mind. 161 00:07:21,073 --> 00:07:23,576 I'm buddy Rich, I'm John Bonham. 162 00:07:23,576 --> 00:07:25,111 Let there be drums, right? Yeah. 163 00:07:25,111 --> 00:07:30,616 And so those that was that was my exposure to music. 164 00:07:30,616 --> 00:07:34,220 I mean, I had that and I had this very strange experience of 165 00:07:34,654 --> 00:07:38,157 living in section eight housing with my mother and 166 00:07:38,157 --> 00:07:43,262 being around incredible, poverty with violence and all kinds of things. 167 00:07:43,262 --> 00:07:44,263 And then a limo would come 168 00:07:44,263 --> 00:07:48,401 by, pick us up, and bring us to a Michael Bolton concert. 169 00:07:48,401 --> 00:07:49,569 This huge, 170 00:07:50,603 --> 00:07:53,039 experience that was phenomenal. 171 00:07:53,039 --> 00:07:55,374 And be, we'd get there, we'd open 172 00:07:55,374 --> 00:07:59,312 up, the envelope, and I would grab you all access pass as fast as possible 173 00:07:59,312 --> 00:08:03,015 and and leave everybody with, you know, backstage pass. 174 00:08:03,516 --> 00:08:06,586 Even though I knew that the all access was for Helen, 175 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,655 I grabbed it, you know, because I wanted it. 176 00:08:09,655 --> 00:08:14,060 And, we would be at this the show, and my grandmother 177 00:08:14,060 --> 00:08:16,929 would be on and, on my side, and my father would be on my right. 178 00:08:16,929 --> 00:08:18,965 My mother would be over there. 179 00:08:18,965 --> 00:08:22,502 And it's just women going crazy 180 00:08:22,802 --> 00:08:27,840 with this rock and roll huge sound with Michael Bolton's voice going off. 181 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,977 And I'm looking at this experience as a kid 182 00:08:31,711 --> 00:08:34,146 and they're like, that's your uncle right there, right? 183 00:08:34,146 --> 00:08:36,816 And his big hit came in 83, the year I was born. 184 00:08:36,816 --> 00:08:39,385 Right. The year I was born here. He was born to. 185 00:08:39,385 --> 00:08:40,319 You was born. 186 00:08:40,319 --> 00:08:41,320 This game. 187 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:41,988 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 188 00:08:41,988 --> 00:08:43,589 How am I supposed to live without you? 189 00:08:43,589 --> 00:08:46,292 Well, my fool's game was like the big one off the album. 190 00:08:46,292 --> 00:08:48,227 But how am I supposed to live without you? 191 00:08:48,227 --> 00:08:49,328 Right, Michael Branigan? 192 00:08:49,328 --> 00:08:49,862 Yeah, yeah. 193 00:08:49,862 --> 00:08:50,563 And then he. 194 00:08:50,563 --> 00:08:53,366 Yeah, he came and he covered his own songs. Yeah. 195 00:08:53,366 --> 00:08:54,033 And that's what he. Yeah. 196 00:08:54,033 --> 00:08:56,369 They were all wondering, like, why are you why are you trying to make it in 197 00:08:56,369 --> 00:08:56,836 rock and roll? 198 00:08:56,836 --> 00:08:59,805 It's not going to work like singing, writing the ballads already. 199 00:08:59,805 --> 00:09:02,174 You know. There's always naysayers. And and he's, Well. 200 00:09:02,174 --> 00:09:03,209 And it was very good. 201 00:09:03,209 --> 00:09:06,512 I think Columbia is the one who convinced him to basically 202 00:09:06,512 --> 00:09:09,682 go from saying, all right, well, we'll give you a two album deal. 203 00:09:09,849 --> 00:09:13,052 We'll do you rock and roll that keeps flopping over every major record label. 204 00:09:13,419 --> 00:09:16,389 Or you can do these things that all the secretaries there's. 205 00:09:16,389 --> 00:09:18,858 Yeah, like, this is the voice, this is the sound. 206 00:09:18,858 --> 00:09:20,660 This is what we want, right? 207 00:09:20,660 --> 00:09:23,763 And so he he was making hits for all these other people, 208 00:09:23,763 --> 00:09:26,766 Cher and Laura Branigan and all these people kiss. 209 00:09:27,567 --> 00:09:28,334 Right? 210 00:09:28,334 --> 00:09:31,971 And countless, products selling, you know, trying to make a dime. 211 00:09:32,238 --> 00:09:33,906 He was broke, you know, he was just trying to make. 212 00:09:33,906 --> 00:09:35,174 And that's what love is all about. 213 00:09:35,174 --> 00:09:37,143 Oh, my gosh, get me started. 214 00:09:37,143 --> 00:09:39,946 Yeah. These songs are huge in my body. 215 00:09:39,946 --> 00:09:43,449 I mean, these were songs that I was in the middle of of chaos and turmoil. 216 00:09:43,449 --> 00:09:44,550 And I'd go to these concerts 217 00:09:44,550 --> 00:09:48,688 and that the songs of love and Hope were just pouring out. 218 00:09:48,721 --> 00:09:49,689 You provider. 219 00:09:49,689 --> 00:09:51,691 I've been performing well. He broke my heart on that one. 220 00:09:51,691 --> 00:09:52,124 Oh yeah. 221 00:09:52,124 --> 00:09:55,861 So I remember having the soul provider, flier in my hand. 222 00:09:55,861 --> 00:09:58,130 And Michael has a way of, every concert. 223 00:09:58,130 --> 00:09:59,265 He'd be in the audience 224 00:09:59,265 --> 00:09:59,932 halfway through, 225 00:09:59,932 --> 00:10:00,600 and then he would kind of 226 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:01,801 walk through so people can, like, 227 00:10:01,801 --> 00:10:04,804 live out this fantasy of Michael Bolton walking up to you. And. 228 00:10:05,338 --> 00:10:07,940 But he was my uncle, and I wanted him to walk up to me. 229 00:10:07,940 --> 00:10:11,510 And so when I saw him, I would be like, I would try to get his attention. 230 00:10:11,811 --> 00:10:15,681 And I remember one time, you know, obviously I need pay attention everything. 231 00:10:15,681 --> 00:10:18,985 But like, he walked past me so devastated. 232 00:10:18,985 --> 00:10:21,320 I ripped it up right there. I just ripped it up. 233 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,123 Just totally devastated, you know, and then wait to get backstage 234 00:10:24,123 --> 00:10:24,724 and all that stuff. 235 00:10:24,724 --> 00:10:27,827 And but that was the my thing was like, 236 00:10:27,827 --> 00:10:31,130 I believe that Michael was the the Savior. 237 00:10:31,263 --> 00:10:36,502 I thought that he was somehow going to swoop in and just make, 238 00:10:36,836 --> 00:10:40,106 you know, my mother well and make, make everything better. 239 00:10:40,306 --> 00:10:41,107 Yeah, right. 240 00:10:41,107 --> 00:10:43,442 And like to his credit, like, absolutely. 241 00:10:43,442 --> 00:10:45,511 He got my mother to a better apartment. 242 00:10:45,511 --> 00:10:46,445 He got my grandmother 243 00:10:46,445 --> 00:10:50,883 into a beautiful condo, and and they didn't really need for money. 244 00:10:50,883 --> 00:10:53,619 Like, my mother is permanently disabled. 245 00:10:53,619 --> 00:10:55,187 And so she's always had state insurance. 246 00:10:55,187 --> 00:10:58,190 But anytime there was something that she needed, right. 247 00:10:58,791 --> 00:11:01,827 There wasn't a hesitation, from his camp. 248 00:11:02,695 --> 00:11:05,498 But those times that we were backstage when, 249 00:11:05,498 --> 00:11:08,701 you know, I said a lot that you had to take me. 250 00:11:08,768 --> 00:11:10,803 I got to go with you. 251 00:11:10,803 --> 00:11:13,673 Never happened. And so 252 00:11:14,707 --> 00:11:16,542 I had to do a lot of soul searching. 253 00:11:16,542 --> 00:11:18,377 There's a lot of things that happened to somebody 254 00:11:18,377 --> 00:11:20,813 who believed that, like, you know, your family. 255 00:11:20,813 --> 00:11:23,382 So you got to take on. So are mixed feelings. 256 00:11:23,382 --> 00:11:25,818 Oh, that's what that's what love is all about. 257 00:11:25,818 --> 00:11:28,688 You're right. Oh, nice segue. 258 00:11:28,688 --> 00:11:32,258 But yeah, I think, it took me a long time to, 259 00:11:32,258 --> 00:11:36,395 to realize that it was the music that was going to set me free. 260 00:11:36,395 --> 00:11:37,697 Right? Right. 261 00:11:37,697 --> 00:11:40,466 And so him being an inspiration to me 262 00:11:40,466 --> 00:11:44,437 as far as his work ethic and his tenacity to pursue 263 00:11:44,470 --> 00:11:48,774 what he was going to pursue at all costs, and that's what he did. 264 00:11:48,774 --> 00:11:51,277 And he won. He got there. Yeah, he made it. 265 00:11:51,277 --> 00:11:53,646 He put the blinders on straight. 266 00:11:53,646 --> 00:11:54,914 It and he went for it. Yeah. 267 00:11:54,914 --> 00:11:57,516 And he and he made it. And there's a legacy there. Yes. 268 00:11:59,085 --> 00:12:02,421 And so to me, those are certain work 269 00:12:02,588 --> 00:12:06,292 things that I have instilled in me that I know that are there. 270 00:12:06,492 --> 00:12:09,862 But I also know that he sacrificed so much time with family 271 00:12:10,129 --> 00:12:14,934 for the pursuit of a career which is no stranger to an industry like that. 272 00:12:14,934 --> 00:12:19,405 Are so many other industries of people, climbing Mount Olympus right. 273 00:12:20,239 --> 00:12:21,807 You have to put the blinders on. 274 00:12:21,807 --> 00:12:23,676 There's always a cost somewhere. 275 00:12:23,676 --> 00:12:27,246 And that's fine, because, you know, there's no possible way that 276 00:12:27,246 --> 00:12:31,016 anybody is going to get there by saying, well, you know, I really got to stay home 277 00:12:31,016 --> 00:12:34,086 and make sure that my kids are doing, you know, got their dad time with them. 278 00:12:34,687 --> 00:12:37,690 And so, I know for a fact that he, 279 00:12:38,124 --> 00:12:41,761 he tried his best to do that, but the calling was just so great. 280 00:12:41,761 --> 00:12:42,228 Yeah. 281 00:12:42,228 --> 00:12:43,162 You know, and that's that. 282 00:12:43,162 --> 00:12:45,131 Yes. From expectations. Right. 283 00:12:45,131 --> 00:12:46,332 Expectations. And so 284 00:12:47,566 --> 00:12:50,402 you know he's he's 285 00:12:50,402 --> 00:12:52,905 he's got a lot of people who expect a lot from him. 286 00:12:52,905 --> 00:12:57,576 And it's hard to to meet those needs, you know. And 287 00:12:58,644 --> 00:13:01,080 I have his music, you know. 288 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,816 And the music spoke to me. 289 00:13:03,816 --> 00:13:07,153 And that's the message that really resonated with my heart. 290 00:13:07,820 --> 00:13:12,691 To get me through, and focused because I had plenty of opportunities, 291 00:13:13,325 --> 00:13:16,862 to get into drugs and, and and go the wrong way. 292 00:13:17,363 --> 00:13:22,101 And I've lost lots of friends to drugs and all of those terrible things. 293 00:13:22,101 --> 00:13:22,802 Right. 294 00:13:22,802 --> 00:13:27,106 But for some reason, I'm, I'm part of something very special. 295 00:13:28,107 --> 00:13:31,277 And and, an oh 1 296 00:13:31,277 --> 00:13:35,514 in 2001, really trying to figure out who I was. 297 00:13:35,514 --> 00:13:40,519 I mean, I had quit drugs, I got heavily into songwriting and music making, 298 00:13:41,086 --> 00:13:44,657 and then I found spirituality through a relationship with God. 299 00:13:45,391 --> 00:13:50,296 And in that place I saw a vision of musical intervention. 300 00:13:50,296 --> 00:13:54,300 And at the time, it was like Cafe Cave Performing arts center for the youth. 301 00:13:54,300 --> 00:13:55,935 Right? That was the whole idea. 302 00:13:55,935 --> 00:13:57,536 And so I started working with politicians. 303 00:13:57,536 --> 00:14:03,475 And once I had that vision, right, once I knew that I was in charge, entrusted 304 00:14:03,475 --> 00:14:07,713 with something that had to happen, had to manifest in this world. 305 00:14:07,713 --> 00:14:10,082 Right. Well, I just I had my blinders on. 306 00:14:10,082 --> 00:14:14,253 And so I started working with politicians to try to make cave work. 307 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,089 And that's when I was encouraged to start going to college. 308 00:14:17,089 --> 00:14:20,092 And then, you know, go to college, figure it out. 309 00:14:20,426 --> 00:14:23,329 And then it just became musical intervention. 310 00:14:23,329 --> 00:14:26,165 And now it's it's brought me all over the world. 311 00:14:26,165 --> 00:14:26,832 And what a story. 312 00:14:26,832 --> 00:14:29,335 I mean, watching your videos and how this impact has had 313 00:14:29,335 --> 00:14:32,338 so many people, whether it be in the inner city or people that are battling 314 00:14:32,371 --> 00:14:35,941 kind of, diseases or, you know, people with Alzheimer's. 315 00:14:36,342 --> 00:14:39,345 I mean, music is the common enemy for the same war. 316 00:14:39,545 --> 00:14:41,614 And look where you are in 2025. Yeah. 317 00:14:41,614 --> 00:14:43,616 The impact you're having now. Oh, yeah. 318 00:14:43,616 --> 00:14:45,851 Yeah, the ripple, the ripple, the. Ripple effect. 319 00:14:45,851 --> 00:14:46,886 The ripple is crazy. 320 00:14:46,886 --> 00:14:50,623 I mean, I opened up a space in downtown New Haven ten years ago, 321 00:14:50,856 --> 00:14:52,291 coming up on ten years. 322 00:14:52,291 --> 00:14:53,559 And this was really the vision. 323 00:14:53,559 --> 00:14:56,528 It was the space, it was the performing arts space. 324 00:14:56,528 --> 00:14:58,931 And I had the opportunity to work with Project Storefront. 325 00:14:58,931 --> 00:14:59,431 At the time. 326 00:14:59,431 --> 00:15:03,936 So they gave me I keep in mind at this time I'm on state insurance. 327 00:15:03,936 --> 00:15:08,741 I left Yale to run for mayor of East Haven in 2013. 328 00:15:08,807 --> 00:15:09,241 Real. 329 00:15:09,241 --> 00:15:12,511 I tried to run for mayor and it was during the taco incident and all that. 330 00:15:12,511 --> 00:15:14,880 Okay, okay. And, you know, just brought up all these issues. 331 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,849 And I was like, you know what? I'm going to change my town. 332 00:15:16,849 --> 00:15:18,751 I'm going to I'm going to this is what I'm going to do. Right? 333 00:15:18,751 --> 00:15:22,721 So I got my political hat on which Grandpa George was a politician 334 00:15:22,721 --> 00:15:26,158 for the Democrats, and he's a, an Alder in New Haven. 335 00:15:26,825 --> 00:15:28,460 So I'm like, let me put my hat in. 336 00:15:28,460 --> 00:15:31,931 So I started my own my own party called the Trolley Party 2013. 337 00:15:32,298 --> 00:15:34,433 Right? Oh, yeah. 338 00:15:34,433 --> 00:15:35,234 Quit my job. 339 00:15:35,234 --> 00:15:37,436 I'm like, I'm like, all right, I got to raise money. 340 00:15:37,436 --> 00:15:39,838 So we raised $250, right? 341 00:15:39,838 --> 00:15:42,574 For the our campaign fund was $250, 342 00:15:42,574 --> 00:15:46,679 and we got more votes than any independent in 16 years. Wow. 343 00:15:46,712 --> 00:15:51,283 Democrats offered us money to get out of the race because it's a 5050 000, yeah. 344 00:15:51,317 --> 00:15:52,451 Yeah. Right. So I'm like. 345 00:15:52,451 --> 00:15:55,921 And then I realized politics aren't for me in any way, shape or form 346 00:15:55,921 --> 00:15:59,658 because I'm not interested in like the payback thing. 347 00:15:59,792 --> 00:16:01,860 I want to see the thing get done. 348 00:16:01,860 --> 00:16:03,429 And so it was like very obvious. 349 00:16:03,429 --> 00:16:05,531 Like it's like, that's not how the game is played. 350 00:16:05,531 --> 00:16:08,801 Like, this is all about do the person a favor so they can get you reelected. 351 00:16:09,201 --> 00:16:12,371 So I'm like, okay, well, I don't know how to work in that in that world. 352 00:16:12,371 --> 00:16:15,374 I just know that I have a vision and I'm going for it. 353 00:16:15,441 --> 00:16:18,043 You put your blinders on. I had my blinders on. Yeah. 354 00:16:18,043 --> 00:16:19,144 I thought politics, right? 355 00:16:19,144 --> 00:16:20,079 I thought politics was it. 356 00:16:20,079 --> 00:16:22,848 I thought I said, through politics I can make this thing happen. Right? 357 00:16:22,848 --> 00:16:25,384 And then I realized quickly that, no, no, that's not it. 358 00:16:25,384 --> 00:16:26,552 There's a machine behind. 359 00:16:26,552 --> 00:16:28,520 So I became a mayor of musical intervention. 360 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,689 I had a conversation with God. That's good. 361 00:16:30,689 --> 00:16:33,559 Yeah. Yes, I had a conversation with God. And God said, you know, choose one thing. 362 00:16:33,559 --> 00:16:35,961 You got your music that you could pursue, you know, to Nashville. 363 00:16:35,961 --> 00:16:38,931 I used to live out in my car in Nashville, try to pitch songs. 364 00:16:38,931 --> 00:16:40,499 I did that for a while. 365 00:16:40,499 --> 00:16:44,603 You could do music intervention, or you could do, a combination of both. 366 00:16:44,603 --> 00:16:47,272 And I said, you know, let me focus on musical intervention 367 00:16:47,272 --> 00:16:48,440 and see what I can do. 368 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,743 So we got a couple of small grants to work with the homeless. 369 00:16:50,743 --> 00:16:53,278 I was doing open mics at the soup kitchen. 370 00:16:53,278 --> 00:16:56,248 I was working at the homeless shelter writing songs and recording songs 371 00:16:56,248 --> 00:16:58,183 with everybody there started working. 372 00:16:58,183 --> 00:17:01,553 I mean, by this point I had contracts with a variety of agencies. 373 00:17:01,553 --> 00:17:04,556 I was working in so many different places, like drug rehabs, 374 00:17:04,556 --> 00:17:05,991 like the AB Foundation. 375 00:17:05,991 --> 00:17:09,194 I was working in homeless shelters, I was working in school systems. 376 00:17:10,129 --> 00:17:13,032 I had worked at the Arden House and the dementia unit. 377 00:17:13,032 --> 00:17:16,635 And so music was just moving in so many and everywhere. 378 00:17:16,635 --> 00:17:20,072 I went, it was just this like reaction to music, right. 379 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:21,974 All right. 380 00:17:21,974 --> 00:17:23,409 Let me let's do this. 381 00:17:23,409 --> 00:17:25,778 And then all of a sudden, I had these people with me, 382 00:17:25,778 --> 00:17:29,681 and the guy we were renting from is like, oh, we can't have these people here. 383 00:17:29,681 --> 00:17:33,152 Like that said, like, you know, we can't have homeless here. 384 00:17:33,652 --> 00:17:35,387 I said, well, then give me my deposit back. 385 00:17:35,387 --> 00:17:37,022 And he's like, you're not getting that back either. 386 00:17:37,022 --> 00:17:39,591 I said, well, fun to do business with. 387 00:17:39,591 --> 00:17:40,893 So at this point, it's December. 388 00:17:40,893 --> 00:17:43,595 We're trying to rehearse for a showcase. Right. 389 00:17:43,595 --> 00:17:50,836 And a suit and a suit pantry and we were like, okay, we need a place. 390 00:17:50,836 --> 00:17:54,640 And so just this opportunity arose through Eleanor slumber. 391 00:17:55,107 --> 00:17:59,144 She was doing some work at the time with New Haven and Project store franchise. 392 00:17:59,144 --> 00:18:00,813 I have this place. 393 00:18:00,813 --> 00:18:01,747 It's about to be vacant. 394 00:18:01,747 --> 00:18:03,782 We can give you six months rent free. 395 00:18:03,782 --> 00:18:05,117 We'll cover utilities. 396 00:18:05,117 --> 00:18:06,452 I'm on state insurance. 397 00:18:06,452 --> 00:18:08,220 I'm living with a girlfriend. 398 00:18:08,220 --> 00:18:10,556 Okay? Yeah. No money. Right? Like I'm just. 399 00:18:10,556 --> 00:18:12,391 Just barely. Who needs money? 400 00:18:12,391 --> 00:18:14,793 But putting put put myself together, right? 401 00:18:14,793 --> 00:18:15,127 Right. 402 00:18:15,127 --> 00:18:18,697 And, I said yes, 403 00:18:18,831 --> 00:18:22,167 because that's what you say when you're just turning 30 and you have this vision 404 00:18:22,167 --> 00:18:24,470 and there's an opportunity and you say, yes. 405 00:18:24,470 --> 00:18:25,471 And you figure it out later. 406 00:18:25,471 --> 00:18:26,605 And you figure it out later. 407 00:18:26,605 --> 00:18:29,808 Well, I had to submit some kind of business plan, but 408 00:18:29,808 --> 00:18:31,243 there was okay, now what? 409 00:18:31,243 --> 00:18:32,911 So then we start building, well, I got to get a business. 410 00:18:32,911 --> 00:18:34,079 I got to get a building permit. 411 00:18:34,079 --> 00:18:36,348 I gotta figure out how to do a scale floor plan. 412 00:18:36,348 --> 00:18:37,850 It's not easy that it takes forever. Oh, yeah. 413 00:18:37,850 --> 00:18:39,218 You gotta learn all that right now. 414 00:18:39,218 --> 00:18:41,653 You're dealing with politics again in the city and city hall. 415 00:18:42,754 --> 00:18:43,355 So we get it all. 416 00:18:43,355 --> 00:18:43,655 We get it. 417 00:18:43,655 --> 00:18:46,925 Like now, ten years later, this door is open, swung 418 00:18:46,925 --> 00:18:50,529 open to the most diverse group of people you'll ever know. 419 00:18:50,829 --> 00:18:51,630 You'll ever know. 420 00:18:51,630 --> 00:18:53,432 Everyone is represented. 421 00:18:53,432 --> 00:18:55,667 Every single person is represented. 422 00:18:55,667 --> 00:18:57,569 Young, old everyone. 423 00:18:57,569 --> 00:18:58,337 Right. 424 00:18:58,337 --> 00:19:01,340 And the common bond is, you know, we want to help people. 425 00:19:01,507 --> 00:19:03,709 We want to come in and give music a chance to live. 426 00:19:03,709 --> 00:19:05,210 We want to celebrate each other. 427 00:19:05,210 --> 00:19:06,812 We want to be heard. 428 00:19:06,812 --> 00:19:07,513 Right. Yeah. 429 00:19:07,513 --> 00:19:08,247 A lot of what you're talking about 430 00:19:08,247 --> 00:19:12,117 in your friendship conversation, we want someone who needs to be heard. 431 00:19:12,251 --> 00:19:15,988 And in this environment, in a sober environment, coffee shop environment, 432 00:19:16,855 --> 00:19:18,123 the common place is music. 433 00:19:18,123 --> 00:19:21,693 So the person who's busking or asking for money on the side of the street, 434 00:19:22,060 --> 00:19:24,429 you might not feel comfortable in that moment to give some money. 435 00:19:24,429 --> 00:19:26,765 So it's a negative vibe for a moment, right? 436 00:19:26,765 --> 00:19:29,034 If you do give, it's a great moment, right? 437 00:19:29,034 --> 00:19:30,969 But then all of a sudden you're at musical intervention. 438 00:19:30,969 --> 00:19:32,938 That person's on the drums and you're playing the guitar 439 00:19:32,938 --> 00:19:35,574 and singing and you're vibing. You have a deep connection, 440 00:19:35,574 --> 00:19:38,110 and in that moment you can communicate what's going on. 441 00:19:38,110 --> 00:19:40,212 We're fortunate enough to have free food there. 442 00:19:40,212 --> 00:19:40,812 We work with, 443 00:19:42,915 --> 00:19:43,982 this really, 444 00:19:43,982 --> 00:19:47,853 really, innovative program called, Haven's Harvest, where they, 445 00:19:48,287 --> 00:19:49,922 go to organizations that are throwing away 446 00:19:49,922 --> 00:19:53,825 their food with with good enough time left and they're repurposing it, 447 00:19:53,825 --> 00:19:56,828 getting to places that people might not have anything. 448 00:19:57,095 --> 00:20:00,265 So we just provide all of this as food and drink for free, 449 00:20:00,899 --> 00:20:02,568 air conditioned in the summer. 450 00:20:02,568 --> 00:20:04,903 It's it's it's really a wild ride. 451 00:20:04,903 --> 00:20:05,971 And we're recording people. 452 00:20:05,971 --> 00:20:08,941 We're writing, they're getting CDs, they're getting their music online. 453 00:20:09,007 --> 00:20:12,511 They're performing at the open mic every Thursday to a packed house. 454 00:20:12,511 --> 00:20:14,947 You're giving people a purpose. Oh my gosh, so many layers. 455 00:20:14,947 --> 00:20:17,015 That's crazy. There's so many moving parts here. 456 00:20:17,015 --> 00:20:17,449 Oh my gosh. 457 00:20:17,449 --> 00:20:20,319 And don't get me started, because a lot of the people I know 458 00:20:20,319 --> 00:20:23,388 through working in different settings, inpatient psychiatric school 459 00:20:23,388 --> 00:20:26,491 systems and the challenges that they have in their life, 460 00:20:26,925 --> 00:20:28,827 and then all of a sudden I see the different pieces 461 00:20:28,827 --> 00:20:32,397 coming together, working together in this environment. 462 00:20:32,731 --> 00:20:35,400 And it really I mean, if that wasn't there, 463 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,670 their days would be going by searching for meaning, right? 464 00:20:39,004 --> 00:20:40,806 And that's the place that they get to do it. 465 00:20:40,806 --> 00:20:43,308 And I get to continue doing the thing that brings me meaning, 466 00:20:43,308 --> 00:20:46,144 which is making music and giving people the voice. Right? 467 00:20:46,144 --> 00:20:48,080 You're giving them a purpose each and every day. 468 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,982 It's crazy wandering off the reservation. 469 00:20:49,982 --> 00:20:51,550 Yeah, right. Yeah. 470 00:20:51,550 --> 00:20:56,154 Just because if I don't write myself, I forget who I am as a creative person. 471 00:20:56,321 --> 00:20:58,190 And then I start to think negative thoughts. 472 00:20:58,190 --> 00:20:59,524 I forget who I am. 473 00:20:59,524 --> 00:21:02,261 And it turns out that that's it's a common trait that people, 474 00:21:02,261 --> 00:21:05,731 creative artists, have a hard time keeping up in capitalism. 475 00:21:06,298 --> 00:21:10,202 And, you know, it's just a system that that feeds lots of people. 476 00:21:10,269 --> 00:21:11,503 Starve some. 477 00:21:11,503 --> 00:21:12,337 Yeah, but, 478 00:21:12,337 --> 00:21:15,440 where's the room for the artists who aren't selling paintings 479 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,443 for, you know, hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars, right? 480 00:21:18,543 --> 00:21:19,211 They're dying. 481 00:21:19,211 --> 00:21:21,980 And and you think of Van Gogh, the first person 482 00:21:21,980 --> 00:21:24,583 in the psychiatric hospital not keeping up with capitalism. 483 00:21:24,583 --> 00:21:28,353 But the brother believed in his work and saw that 484 00:21:28,353 --> 00:21:31,323 there was something very special that needed to be preserved. 485 00:21:31,323 --> 00:21:33,392 And so I get to surround myself with all of these. 486 00:21:33,392 --> 00:21:35,827 Van Gogh's going into different settings. 487 00:21:35,827 --> 00:21:38,363 But unlike Van Gogh, you're being celebrated in your lifetime. 488 00:21:38,363 --> 00:21:39,464 In your lifetime? Yes. 489 00:21:39,464 --> 00:21:41,033 To him. Yeah, yeah. 490 00:21:41,033 --> 00:21:42,634 And we hope nobody drops there often. 491 00:21:43,802 --> 00:21:45,904 You know, I go, oh, August. 492 00:21:45,904 --> 00:21:46,605 Yeah, yeah. 493 00:21:46,605 --> 00:21:49,875 So, the dream is it was given to me 494 00:21:49,875 --> 00:21:53,612 and it's it's it's a just an amazing thing to watch it play out. 495 00:21:54,112 --> 00:21:57,449 The thing about a dream is, you never know, what it's like to run 496 00:21:57,449 --> 00:22:00,485 a dream and manage a dream or try to build a team around it. 497 00:22:00,686 --> 00:22:04,156 So it's very much if you think of Jesus, you know, 498 00:22:04,156 --> 00:22:07,893 you think of this Jesus having the vision, right? 499 00:22:07,893 --> 00:22:09,861 This is I see myself on the cross. 500 00:22:09,861 --> 00:22:11,196 I have to do this thing. 501 00:22:11,196 --> 00:22:12,831 But we got to do some miracles first. 502 00:22:12,831 --> 00:22:13,932 One of my favorite phrases 503 00:22:13,932 --> 00:22:17,169 is, he wouldn't provide the vision without provision. 504 00:22:17,169 --> 00:22:18,403 Oh, yeah? Yeah. 505 00:22:18,403 --> 00:22:20,739 I love that. If you give him the vision, he'll prefer provision. 506 00:22:20,739 --> 00:22:22,140 But in his time. Right. 507 00:22:22,140 --> 00:22:24,076 And where does that provision come from? 508 00:22:24,076 --> 00:22:27,079 Because, you know, even right now one of our 509 00:22:27,312 --> 00:22:30,415 and NIH grants has done that was my salary. 510 00:22:30,749 --> 00:22:34,019 And so I'm like, okay God, what door is going to open. 511 00:22:34,019 --> 00:22:36,088 Right. And so I have to now, as I've learned 512 00:22:37,022 --> 00:22:37,622 to, to 513 00:22:37,622 --> 00:22:40,892 try to be patient and watch the miracle play out in front of you. 514 00:22:40,892 --> 00:22:41,760 You know what I'm saying? 515 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,430 But I think of the character, the cast of characters that Jesus 516 00:22:45,430 --> 00:22:46,264 put together, right? 517 00:22:46,264 --> 00:22:48,934 These disciples that weren't your typical board. 518 00:22:48,934 --> 00:22:49,468 Right? 519 00:22:49,468 --> 00:22:51,837 They're not your typical like. Well, they have a very. 520 00:22:51,837 --> 00:22:53,772 Particular, more savory group of people. 521 00:22:53,772 --> 00:22:56,041 Yeah, right. And imperfect. 522 00:22:56,041 --> 00:22:57,609 Oh, yeah. Like us. Yeah, yeah. 523 00:22:57,609 --> 00:23:02,147 And and relatable and and and real and, you know, 524 00:23:02,781 --> 00:23:06,618 non-judgmental because they're so in it you can't you can't help it be real. 525 00:23:06,752 --> 00:23:09,921 And so that's so I, I really relate to it. 526 00:23:09,921 --> 00:23:13,091 I really relate to that experience and being entrusted with the vision 527 00:23:13,425 --> 00:23:16,428 and seeing people like Moises Vazquez we have right now, 528 00:23:16,962 --> 00:23:20,565 did did his time right, 529 00:23:20,866 --> 00:23:23,802 struggled through his traumas 530 00:23:23,802 --> 00:23:26,805 and and and and tried to keep up with this world. 531 00:23:26,838 --> 00:23:29,040 Yeah. Had a wake up call right. 532 00:23:30,208 --> 00:23:32,010 Wanted to become a recovery sports 533 00:23:32,010 --> 00:23:35,013 specialist to help people go through the things that he went through. 534 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,382 And he wants to use percussion to do it. 535 00:23:37,382 --> 00:23:39,184 And so we link up and now, 536 00:23:39,184 --> 00:23:42,154 you know, my whole musical intervention is covered in all percussion. 537 00:23:42,154 --> 00:23:44,356 And he runs a drum circle that's incredibly successful. 538 00:23:44,356 --> 00:23:46,591 He calls mic come make a Joyful noise. 539 00:23:46,591 --> 00:23:48,493 Yeah, it's he calls it I love it. 540 00:23:48,493 --> 00:23:52,097 And so he's got this circle that we've had Yale study and, you know, 541 00:23:52,130 --> 00:23:55,467 looks at how this drum circle impacts people's anxieties. 542 00:23:56,001 --> 00:23:58,503 And so this guy who could have died 543 00:23:58,503 --> 00:24:03,442 right now comes into musical intervention, uses his drums as a way to 544 00:24:03,475 --> 00:24:06,478 to heal other people and meet community, 545 00:24:06,645 --> 00:24:09,247 get paid to do these things and survive. 546 00:24:09,247 --> 00:24:10,515 Right. And, 547 00:24:11,650 --> 00:24:12,918 pursue his vision. 548 00:24:12,918 --> 00:24:15,387 Not just Healy himself, but healing other healing others. 549 00:24:15,387 --> 00:24:17,222 Yeah, yeah. And so that's the goal. 550 00:24:17,222 --> 00:24:20,358 The goal is to provide that platform for people who want to be able 551 00:24:20,358 --> 00:24:23,662 to help people by utilizing their their skills and their talents, 552 00:24:24,162 --> 00:24:25,130 to make a better world. 553 00:24:25,130 --> 00:24:26,565 Because honestly, a lot of the people 554 00:24:26,565 --> 00:24:29,034 that are really suffering want to help others. 555 00:24:29,034 --> 00:24:30,602 It's their it's their whole thing. 556 00:24:30,602 --> 00:24:34,172 And a lot of people, myself included, when times are good 557 00:24:34,639 --> 00:24:37,642 and you got some money and some comfortable things going, 558 00:24:38,276 --> 00:24:40,679 you don't want to put yourself back into the war zone. 559 00:24:40,679 --> 00:24:42,247 You kind of want to say, well, I've got it. 560 00:24:42,247 --> 00:24:45,016 Someday I'll maybe I'll just go on vacation and. 561 00:24:45,016 --> 00:24:46,151 Yeah. And that's okay. 562 00:24:46,151 --> 00:24:49,054 Yeah. You need to take a break. You gotta. Heal. Yeah. 563 00:24:49,054 --> 00:24:49,955 You know what I'm saying? 564 00:24:49,955 --> 00:24:52,457 You brought up Jesus before even he couldn't save everybody. 565 00:24:52,457 --> 00:24:52,924 Even he had it. 566 00:24:52,924 --> 00:24:55,994 So, you know, at times you gotta go up to the mountain and and, gotta. 567 00:24:55,994 --> 00:24:58,563 Go. Guys. Exactly. I needed I need a break. 568 00:24:58,563 --> 00:25:02,367 I need to reconnect, put my seat back and feet in the sand for a second. 569 00:25:02,934 --> 00:25:05,570 And so, it's just been, a lot. 570 00:25:05,570 --> 00:25:09,341 I mean, you gotta think I've built my 30s putting this whole thing together, 571 00:25:09,341 --> 00:25:14,045 going through people's, really serious, challenges 572 00:25:14,045 --> 00:25:17,516 that they have in their life and then seeing them have the opportunity 573 00:25:17,616 --> 00:25:22,654 to create their music and sing on stage and be celebrated by their community 574 00:25:22,921 --> 00:25:26,458 and leave a legacy, leave with the CDs and things like that. 575 00:25:26,458 --> 00:25:31,429 Like, man, just to be called to that is just it's just great your private moment. 576 00:25:31,429 --> 00:25:34,065 You just kind of like, look at your life and then, wow. 577 00:25:34,065 --> 00:25:35,300 This is the private moment I get. 578 00:25:35,300 --> 00:25:37,202 I, I had two kids now 579 00:25:37,202 --> 00:25:40,472 there's, hardly any private moment maybe when I go to the bathroom. 580 00:25:40,972 --> 00:25:42,574 Maybe. Yeah. 581 00:25:42,574 --> 00:25:45,510 Yeah, I get in, the door comes, daddy, can I just today 582 00:25:45,510 --> 00:25:48,780 she said, she's trying to get a doll out of me. 583 00:25:48,780 --> 00:25:50,315 She's. Oh, I get this. 584 00:25:50,315 --> 00:25:50,682 Yeah. 585 00:25:50,682 --> 00:25:52,817 How old are your kids? Oh, my gosh, my daughter's five. 586 00:25:52,817 --> 00:25:53,718 My son is two. 587 00:25:53,718 --> 00:25:55,854 What are their names? Elena and Alex. 588 00:25:55,854 --> 00:25:57,756 Now Alex, a bunch of Russian. 589 00:25:57,756 --> 00:25:59,791 My beautiful wife. She saved me. 590 00:25:59,791 --> 00:26:01,860 Oh, really? Yeah. We just. That's going to be a story for us. 591 00:26:01,860 --> 00:26:02,661 You know what? 592 00:26:02,661 --> 00:26:05,030 We have so much to cover here. You think? Oh, we're coming back. 593 00:26:05,030 --> 00:26:06,932 We haven't even talked about clean paint yet. 594 00:26:06,932 --> 00:26:07,666 And I. 595 00:26:07,666 --> 00:26:09,501 We have to come back for a second episode. 596 00:26:09,501 --> 00:26:10,702 Love to. Love to. 597 00:26:10,702 --> 00:26:12,637 That would be fantastic. Adam, thank you so much. 598 00:26:12,637 --> 00:26:14,706 Maybe even sing a little song for us next time. 599 00:26:14,706 --> 00:26:16,074 Sounds great. Yeah, definitely. 600 00:26:16,074 --> 00:26:17,709 Definitely. Don't leave home without it. 601 00:26:17,709 --> 00:26:20,278 But thank you so much for tuning in to What's Good with John and Joyce. 602 00:26:20,278 --> 00:26:22,714 Available on all streaming platforms. 603 00:26:22,714 --> 00:26:25,350 Please tell a friend virus who needs a pick me up. 604 00:26:25,350 --> 00:26:27,185 There are so many people out there nowadays hurting 605 00:26:27,185 --> 00:26:30,689 and we just want to be your safe place to land, warts and all. 606 00:26:30,722 --> 00:26:32,157 You know, totally organic here. 607 00:26:32,157 --> 00:26:34,893 You know what's good with John and Joyce? We pray for you. 608 00:26:34,893 --> 00:26:35,961 We pray for your family. 609 00:26:35,961 --> 00:26:38,563 We pray for your healing, your prosperity. 610 00:26:38,563 --> 00:26:41,566 And, we're just appreciative that you spent some time with us here 611 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,068 half hour every week. 612 00:26:43,068 --> 00:26:45,303 I'm John Cadillac Seville from iHeart radio. 613 00:26:45,303 --> 00:26:46,304 I'm Joyce Logan. 614 00:26:46,304 --> 00:26:48,406 Thank you so much and bye for now. 615 00:26:48,406 --> 00:26:50,141 See you soon, Adam. Thank you.