In this episode of Chalk and Code, host Jill Foley dives into the world of immersive education with Cheryl Bayer, CEO of Living Popups, a cutting-edge company blending storytelling, augmented reality, and curriculum to engage students like never before.
From her background in Hollywood to co-founding an XR startup focused on K–12 education, Cheryl shares the fascinating journey of how entertainment, empathy, and emerging tech intersect in the classroom. She unpacks what it means to build "sticky" learning experiences, how AI can enhance not replace human interaction, and why giving students agency over their learning is the key to long-term success.
If you're curious about how AR/VR, gamification, and interactive characters are transforming how kids learn to read, write, and think, this conversation is a must-listen.
Key Moments
03:57 Childhood Dyslexia Challenges
08:48 "Revamping California Education Blueprint"
09:57 Impactful Literacy and Inclusivity Program
13:50 Dashboard Simplification in Various Fields
19:30 Engaging Education Through Historical Immersion
20:23 "Transformative Education Access Initiative"
24:19 Addressing Mental Health in Real-Time
27:05 App Design for Audience Engagement
32:48 Revamping Boring Audio Tours
34:05 Colosseum's Vibrant Past Unveiled
40:27 "Persistence in Business Leadership"
41:40 "Rediscovering the Lunch Break"
Why You’ll Love This Episode
This episode flips the script on how we think about engagement in education.
You’ll hear how Cheryl Bayer applies lessons from the entertainment industry to educational design—and why her team builds XR experiences that are not just cool, but cognitively meaningful. Whether you’re an educator, technologist, or parent navigating the noisy world of edtech, this episode offers clarity on what immersive learning should be and how to use AI and AR in ways that are human-first, not just high-tech.
Cheryl also shares:
- Why the future of literacy depends on interactivity
- How Living Popups balances curriculum standards with creative freedom
- What public-private collaboration looks like in XR development for schools
- The psychology behind “edutainment” that actually works
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